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Pat Buchanan To Receive MEDAL OF FREEDOM? ft. Rep. Riley Moore

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riley moore
The very simple, just common sense things that used to be just kind of cultural norms, like maybe we don't want riots and violence in our cities.
unidentified
And it's like, well, it's a little more complicated than that.
It's like, no, actually, it's not.
And instead of just like talking around these issues and, you know, why these violent acts are happening and, you know, kind of origin stories and things.
No more.
No, we're not doing that anymore.
riley moore
Enough.
No more.
unidentified
Hey, everyone.
This is Tate Brown here, holding it down for Tim Poole.
tate brown
We have an interview here with Riley Moore.
unidentified
About halfway through, we had some technical difficulties, but we got it stitched together for you.
tate brown
So enjoy.
unidentified
Rep Moore urges Trump to present Presidential Medal of Freedom to Pat Buchanan.
Here's a direct quote from him.
For more than half of a century, Mr. Buchanan stood boldly for the American worker, the American family, and the American nation at times when it was neither popular nor politically expedient.
tate brown
That's the end of the quote.
unidentified
Moore wrote in his letter.
His clear-eyed warnings about porous borders, deindustrialization, foreign tangents, and the decline of traditional values were once dismissed by elites, but have been proven exactly right.
And that is true.
Riley Moore, obviously, this is fantastic from him.
And we love to see it.
And so, yeah, we're going to ask him about his letter urging Trump to honor Pat Buchanan.
Let's see if we can get him in here.
Hi, Congressman.
Can you hear me?
Yeah, I can hear you.
How are we doing today?
Good.
How are you?
tate brown
Doing all right.
unidentified
I'm sure most of the viewers are quite familiar with you.
tate brown
Maybe you could just give a quick intro for those who aren't.
unidentified
Yeah, sure.
Hey, I'm Riley Moore, Congressman, 2nd Congressional District, out in the great state of West Virginia.
Actually, not too far from the studio, typically.
But yeah, you probably seen me on IRL quite a bit.
I haven't been on in a little while.
Also, world famous for my kickflip on the flat bank.
There you go.
I love it.
That's good stuff.
Well, I mean, obviously, we have a lot to get into.
tate brown
First, I just wanted to start.
unidentified
I mean, I'm sure you've saw the news.
tate brown
I saw your statement on it with the situation in Minneapolis.
I wonder if you just had any sort of general thoughts on the shooting.
unidentified
Yeah, I mean, it's an absolute tragedy.
I mean, and it's heartbreaking.
You know, I don't like to say where my kids go to school, but they do go to a Catholic school and they do go to Mass in the same manner.
They go walk down the street.
We've seen Christian institutions in this country consistently under attack.
And we're going to find out who this is.
I'm not going to sit here and guess who it is.
But it's more about, I think, an attack on just the culture of this country and trying to just rip it apart.
It feels like, at least to me.
riley moore
And so certainly it feels, you know, I can feel this pretty very given that I have kids and where they go to school.
So it's just absolute tragedy.
It's heartbreaking.
unidentified
Absolutely heartbreaking.
riley moore
And were killed and sitting in their pews.
unidentified
Right.
They're the Catholic Church.
Just absolutely evil.
Yeah.
No, yeah, it's absolutely horrible.
I mean, and it really just hits at this theme where America is just really starting to feel unstable and more violent.
tate brown
And certainly among the Christian community, we're sensing this.
unidentified
I mean, you touched on it.
I'm sure you're sensing the same thing as just this country really is starting to feel like there's a lot of people with nothing to lose and it's starting to feel very unstable.
No, that's exactly right.
You know, flash back to that school that was attacked, if I remember correctly, Nashville, Tennessee.
riley moore
Yeah, the Christian school that was attacked by some trans terrorist over there that shot it up.
unidentified
Yes, I mean, it's, and now this is happening again.
And luckily, though, we do have President Trump in the White House where we can actually have these conversations about what in the hell is going on here and hopefully start to get to the bottom of it and prevent these things from ever happening again.
Absolutely.
Yeah, I mean, you know, I hate doing the dance because this happens after every shooting where the left and right both propose sort of these surface.
Obviously, the left just wants to grab guns.
You know, we know their playbook, but even on the right, you know, you get the stance for like, well, maybe it's the video games, maybe it's this, that, and the other.
tate brown
But it really feels like whatever solution is just putting kind of a band-aid on the situation, where it feels like the underlying issue is that you just have a high proportion of this country that just has no, they have a void in their soul, right?
They just feel empty inside.
unidentified
And that seems incredibly alarming.
I mean, I don't know what sort of, what sort of direction do we need to go in as a country to ensure that we don't have people like this that are, you know, that seem to be everywhere.
Well, yeah.
And part of that's going to be guided by who is this.
riley moore
Now we knew who the last one was.
It was this trans terrorist individual.
unidentified
And look, there's a lot of mental health issues in this country.
And in terms of mental health issues and saying, no, there's nothing wrong with you.
Don't worry about it.
And then they act out in violent ways.
And as you said, look, just have kind of a void and that they're trying to fill or blame on somebody else or some community or some religious institution or what have you.
And it's costing people their lives.
riley moore
So I think part of it is we just need to really be honest about what is going on in this country and who is doing it and how we can actually stop it and not kind of the window dressing of, you know, let's not hurt people's feelings about this.
tate brown
Sure, absolutely.
unidentified
I mean, and, you know, it kind of goes with it is the Trump administration does seem to have a little bit of a different view.
tate brown
I mean, I think they're quite aware of how violent this country appears to be getting and how unstable it's been getting, obviously, over the last few decades.
Certainly his approach to DC indicates a different sort of mindset when handling these issues.
unidentified
No, absolutely.
And I think the way you could kind of encapsulate that is in a very simple phrase of enough is enough.
riley moore
No more.
unidentified
No more.
Enough.
We've had enough of this.
And, you know, people can whine and cry and scream about any of this stuff.
riley moore
Our cities, in particular, our nation's capital, it should be safe.
unidentified
It should be one of the safest cities in the country where people from all over our country and the world for that matter can come visit it and say, wow, look at the capital of the United States.
Beautiful place.
Safe, great, you know, but we've let it just run amok ever since we gave home rule to Washington, D.C.
And the Democrats have run the place into the ground.
And it's one of the most dangerous cities in America right now.
And enough, no more.
Absolutely.
I mean, it kind of, I've said this before on the show with how bad D.C. got, is it really did seem like from the city leadership and also the Democrats at large, the National Democrats, is that it was almost this attempt to demoralize patriotic Americans by taking their capital and just turning it into a disaster zone.
And then like I touched on earlier, is we already have a population where a large proportion feel like their lives are devoid of meaning.
I mean, you know, I hate to attribute such grandiose sort of themes to the Trump administration, but it does seem to be like providing a pathway forward.
You know, again, you know, it's not articulated.
The best sometimes, but the general theme just seems like, no, this is we're taking control.
Like you said, enough is enough.
Yeah, no, that's exactly right.
And the average American, I do believe, supports what President Trump's trying to do.
And at least in my district, they do.
And it's just like, no more of this.
No more.
And it's just the very simple, just common sense things that used to be just kind of cultural norms.
Like, maybe we don't want riots and violence in our cities.
And it's like, well, it's a little more complicated than that.
It's like, no, actually, it's not.
And instead of just like talking around these issues and, you know, why these violent acts are happening and, you know, kind of origin stories and things, no more.
No, we're not doing that anymore.
riley moore
Enough.
unidentified
No more.
Yeah.
Yeah.
tate brown
I mean, the conservative movement has put out a lot of paperwork and a lot of reading material over the last few decades.
unidentified
And it feels like, although the Trump administration certainly is guided by some policy experts, there's no question about that.
They're tired of theorizing.
It's more of an administration of doing.
Yes.
Yeah.
I mean, I'm sure you've seen it, you know, coming through Congress.
We have a lot of great theorizers, certainly.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, look, the think tanks can think this stuff to death.
riley moore
That's fine.
Write papers and all that and reams of papers.
unidentified
And we all look at them.
That's interesting.
No, that.
And Trump just has, in my view, the greatest instincts of any president I can really think of.
riley moore
I mean, it is his superpower.
unidentified
I mean, he's just got gut instincts that are almost always correct, if not always correct.
riley moore
I mean, he ends up being right basically every time.
unidentified
Absolutely.
Well, I mean, and like we were talking about earlier, there's this whole think tank coalition, this part of the conservative movement.
I mean, I know a lot of people that are in these things.
tate brown
There's some fantastic people.
unidentified
There's no question about that.
So a lot of this is part of this broader infrastructure that has built up that the GOP has been built up on over the last few decades.
They went to war with Trump in 2016 until he was able to really wrestle control of the party away from what we'll just say the establishment.
tate brown
But another figure that was villainized viciously by the establishment was Pat Buchanan.
unidentified
Yes.
And yes.
So I saw your proposal and I found that very exciting because I feel like he's not getting the love and respect that he deserves.
riley moore
No, you know, and so many times there's an individual in history that has this outsized impact and was ahead of their time.
unidentified
And Pat Buchanan is certainly one of those.
riley moore
Now, if he was a Democrat, I'm sure some statue would already be built to him.
unidentified
But as a Republican, you know, they've tried to kind of bury him for a very long time.
riley moore
But he was, I mean, America first before we were really talking about America first.
unidentified
And, you know, his book came out in 2002, so far ahead of its time, The Death of the West.
And everything basically in that book has come true.
All of it in terms of immigration, population decline in the West, and all these other things.
He's been right the whole time.
And it seems so, it seems just like common sense now, some of the things that he was saying.
But back in the 90s, he stated things like the economy is not more important than the country.
Yeah.
You know, and like at the time, it's like, oh, well, no, you know, GDP growth, Mr. Buchanan.
riley moore
I mean, this is very important.
unidentified
But it's still common sense now.
And everybody seems to be aligned to those kind of principles and ideas.
But, you know, back then it was kind of sacrosanct.
riley moore
It's like, what are you talking about?
unidentified
Globalization, Pat.
You know, it's a wave of the future.
And he even showed up.
Fight against NAFTA at the time when Clinton was pushing the NAFTA deal, which obviously eventually became law.
It hurt the steel workers in my district.
NAFTA did.
And Pat Buchanan went up there and gave a great speech about it.
And thousands of our guys ended up losing jobs over NAFTA.
And flash forward to Trump, he gets rid of NAFTA.
And then you have the USMCA trade agreement, which kind of obviously leveled the playing field.
But all of those things that Pat Buchanan had been talking about for decades are now actually coming to fruition.
And I know in his speech there where he lost one of his presidential runs, he just said he hoped he lived long enough to actually see these ideas come to fruition and the establishment essentially die.
And look, here he is.
And that's part of why I wrote the letter to the president and requesting that he receive the Medal of Freedom is that obviously his contributions, he is also 86 years old now.
And it would be great to honor him in his lifetime for what he did and took all the arrows for a very long time.
Look, President Trump has taken all the arrows as well, more so than any politician that I can think of.
I mean, he's almost paid the ultimate price for his views at least twice now.
But Pat, you know, he was really a visionary in this kind of America first, more populist aligned vision of the Republican Party, and it's come to fruition.
Absolutely.
I mean, for me, coming like I was born in 2001.
So, you know, I grew up, my, my sort of awareness of politics has been post-Trump the entire time.
I was, what, 14, 15 when he was the Republican nominee.
So I've always known a GOP that was Trumpian in nature.
I mean, could you maybe elaborate more on what sort of environment Pat Buchanan was in specifically in his?
Oh, yeah.
I mean, so this he comes out of the Nixon White House and Nixon was more aligned with Trump than the preceding presidents after Richard Nixon in terms of this kind of working class coalition, America First.
But Pat Buchanan was living in the time and fighting in the time in the 80s and well, he worked for Reagan, but after that, particularly the 90s, and where it was, look, we won the Cold War.
You had this fusionist Republican movement of social conservatives, libertarians, and kind of anti-communist, what we'd kind of call more like neocons now, and created this conservative movement where all three were kind of working together to defeat communism, which had negative ramifications for everybody within that party coalition.
But Pat Buchanan was the guy.
So it's like, you know, the Christian conservatives were fine with, you know, globalization free trade if it meant trying to harm the Soviet Union and the communist movement around the world at that time.
And so we kind of traded some things within that coalition of the Republican Party.
But Pat Buchanan was very consistent throughout all of this.
And like I said, you know, the economy is not more important than the country.
I'm back.
Okay.
I think the anti-Buchanan coalition was attacking our internet connection.
I'm going to get back to where he said, guys.
Yeah, where we left off, you were kind of breaking down the dynamic of Buchanan's relationship with the GOP in the early 90s.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And as people might remember, he ran against Bob Dole for the Republican nomination for president.
And look, he stuck by his guns and his principles throughout this whole thing.
Of course, the neocons ended up winning that primary election, which then Dole got hammered in the general election because the electorate was in a different place and weren't buying what we were selling.
And had Pat Buchanan been nominated, who knows?
Maybe perhaps he would have been successful.
But he fought the establishment and the neocons his entire career.
And then early 2000s starts the American Conservative, the publication that actually I placed that op-ed in about wanting Pat Buchanan to back.
He was one of the American conservatives was actually the publication that first kind of platformed the Hillbilly Elegy book by now Vice President J.T. Vance.
riley moore
So there's a lot of legacy there for Pat Buchanan in the conservative movement.
unidentified
And he never wavered.
He never gave up and fought it tooth and nail.
riley moore
And the entire time, and I know it's hard to kind of think about it now, but he was like a kook and a crank.
That's, you know, people were just like, this guy's crazy.
unidentified
I know what he's talking about.
Then to be proven correct the entire time in which he's lived long enough to be able to see that, that's why we got to honor this great man.
tate brown
Absolutely.
unidentified
I mean, like I said, coming kind of matriculating into politics in the post-Trump era, every time I saw a quote from Buchanan, I was like, yeah, that panned out only to realize it was 30 years earlier.
And I'm sitting here thinking, well, if he would have won 30 years earlier, he could have mopped this up much earlier.
We'd be in a much better, or I should say, the fight wouldn't be nearly as difficult.
That's right.
What sort of, I mean, what sort of his legacy policy-wise are you seeing that's living on through this second Trump admin specifically?
riley moore
Well, specifically is immigration and border security, which he talked about.
I mean, and everybody was like, this guy is nuts.
He wants to build a wall.
unidentified
And he was very adamant about controlling immigration, but secondarily is also trade.
And, you know, I know I've mentioned it a couple of times, but it's so aptly put.
And that's what drove mass immigration, open borders, bad trade deals, all those other things.
And so I'm sure he's very happy right now to see the tariffs, the immigration policies now being corrected.
riley moore
So there's a lot there.
unidentified
There's a lot there, but I think those are kind of the big two to me is immigration and reasserting the sovereignty and importance of citizenship in this country.
And then also adjusting the trade work, the trade framework that we've had in this country for a long time, where we've been getting taken advantage of, and other countries are essentially profiting off of us.
Yeah, absolutely.
You mentioned his 2002 book, The Death of the West earlier.
And I mean, you saw it come to life with this whole redistricting fight where he was arguing in the book that sort of this recomposition of the country that was occurring would lead to huge political, it would have huge political ramifications.
And I mean, I think the state of California is exhibit A. We're seeing it with the redistricting fight.
I know, exactly right.
And, you know, in the last census, whether someone was a citizen or not a citizen, they were counted in the census for the congressional districts.
Now, in this next census, that we cannot allow that to happen.
That doesn't make any sense that part of your district is determined by people who are not even in this country legally.
Right.
Like, how does that make it doesn't make any sense?
It doesn't make any sense at all.
So, I think that's going to have a huge effect on how many seats Democrats actually hold.
And Pat Buchanan was right about this the entire time.
Yeah, absolutely.
Well, and you're even seeing some of his further predictions in the book, specifically referring to like Western Europe as far as immigration, where he talked about, you know, the changing composition, changing the culture and making it a more unstable place.
I mean, you look at what's happening in England right now where like throwing up a St. George's cross will put you in a prison.
Like absolute insanity.
And so he was 100% right on that as well.
I mean, it's if people haven't read that book, The Death of the West, and, you know, I need to go back and reread it again now as well.
But I mean, it's, it's astounding how right he was.
Absolutely.
Well, I got to ask, I mean, since you, you, you wrote the letter, I mean, do you have a sense on, I mean, I don't know, maybe this is too forward, but do you have a sense on how likely it is that some sort of recognition occurs?
Well, I have been talking to White House staff about this, and it does seem that there is some interest in doing this.
riley moore
Not saying it's going to happen, but we've had some really, I've had personally myself, some very positive conversations with the White House that this might be a possibility.
tate brown
It's fantastic.
I mean, like I said, like you were touching on earlier, I mean, you really do see the fingerprints of his policy proposals and the second Trump administration.
unidentified
I mean, I can say anecdotally, you know, speaking to White House staffers, a lot of them were heavily influenced by Pat Buchanan.
tate brown
So it's really cool to see him sort of getting the recognition he deserves.
unidentified
I had one more question kind of correlating to that is, you know, what do you think the long-term effect of Trump and MAGA is?
I mean, because, you know, we still have three years of Trump.
Obviously, this is going to be fantastic.
But this JD Vance, you know, potentially JD Vance taking the torch on, taking the mantle of MAGA.
It's kind of interesting, you know, talking about Pat Buchanan and his policy proposals extending beyond Trump.
I mean, what is your view of MAGA as a long-term, you know, policy platform?
Yeah, well, you know, that's certainly where I align myself, right?
And I consider myself part of that movement.
And certainly that's where I align in terms of being a member of Congress.
I am, you know, some people said, you know, more national, right-leaning, NATCON, MAGA, populist, whatever you want to call it.
riley moore
But I like MAGA.
So we'll stick with that.
unidentified
If you look at things right now in terms of Vice President Vance taking up the reins and God willing, becoming the next president of the United States, be the VP nomination nominee and hopefully fill that office.
And then you do have a deep bench within MAGA and it's not going away.
It's just growing more and more.
Not only do we have presidential candidates, we have congressional candidates, Senate candidates, and they are winning and filling these seats.
So to me, this is just the beginning.
This isn't the end.
riley moore
We're like in chapter one right now, which I think is really exciting.
unidentified
And the realignment of the constituencies around the country toward MAGA, particularly in the working class.
You know, not saying this is going to happen to us, God willing it does.
But as you might recall, back in the day, the Democrats had the working class vote just locked up in Congress.
They had a 40-year majority.
And they got their way for a very long period of time.
And I think if we are with the people and the American people, particularly the working people of this country, we could be in power for a very long time and have a very positive effect on the average men and women of this great country.
Absolutely.
Well, I love it.
I'm glad we got to get you back in.
Again, thank you.
tate brown
Thank you for stopping by and having a chat.
I think this is fantastic.
unidentified
Where can people find more of you?
Yeah, so I'm on X and Facebook and Instagram and all that.
Riley Moore, WV, that's my personal handle.
And rep Riley Moore is my official one.
So either one, we stay pretty active on there and come look me up.
Hopefully I'll be back over to the skate park soon.
I know Serge is keen on it.
He was ready to take a game of skate, I think.
Yeah, I do need to play him in a game of skate.
And that is going to happen.
But I need, I just haven't skated in a little bit, so I don't want to go in cold.
Get ready.
tate brown
That's right.
unidentified
I love it.
Well, appreciate you stopping in.
Have a good rest of your day.
Hey, you too.
riley moore
Thanks.
unidentified
Thanks.
tate brown
Yep.
unidentified
Bye-bye.
tate brown
All righty.
unidentified
That was Rep Riley Moore.
I'm very happy that we got to get him back in the show here.
Because, yeah, the Pat Buchanan thing, he's kind of an unsung hero of the MAGA movement.
Again, if you haven't read his books, broadly speaking, or his pieces over the years, you really do see his fingerprints all over the MAGA agenda.
So I think it's fantastic that Rep Moore is showing him the love that he deserves, especially because he's still alive.
tate brown
He's still alive.
unidentified
He is 86, I believe.
That's what Mr. Moore said.
So with that, thanks for watching.
Obviously, prayers with the Christian and the Catholic community in Minneapolis.
We'll be back to discuss tonight at 8 p.m.
tate brown
I'm sure there'll be some more updates.
unidentified
So be there for that.
It will be hosted by Jack Pesobic.
So yeah, be there for that.
I think it'll be a fascinating show.
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