Democrats SABOTAGE Texas REDISTRICTING, May Be CHARGED ft. Tony Ortiz
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I'm producer Tate Brown holding it down.
So this is from the post-millennial.
Greg Abbott threatens to remove Dem lawmakers from office if they don't show up for the redistricting vote.
A standoff is intensifying in Texas after more than 50 Democratic state lawmakers fled the state to block a vote on a redistricting proposal.
Republican Governor Greg Abbott warned late Sunday that he would pursue legal action to remove the lawmakers from office if they fail to return to Austin by Monday, August 4, 2025 to vote on the proposal.
Abbott's pressure follows a walkout by Democrats seeking to deny the Texas House a quorum, the minimum number of legislators required to conduct business.
By leaving the state, Democrats effectively froze all legislative activity during a special session set to expire later this month.
Their primary objective was to halt a GOP drawn congressional map that could secure five additional U.S. House seats for Republicans in the 2026 midterms.
We obviously have the statement here from Greg Abbott.
At the end here, he discusses, in addition to abandoning their offices, these legislators may have also committed felonies.
Many absentee Democrats are soliciting funds to evade the fines that they will incur under House rules.
Greg Abbott's going in.
He's not playing around.
We need to talk to Tony.
We need to figure the situation out.
So I've got producer Andrew here.
He's going to get Tony roped in here.
We're going to discuss this.
I think it's relieving to see some Republicans with backbone.
And so, you know, Governor Abbott has now stated that, you know, that he's gonna consider their seats vacant and i think a lot of the the legal behind that isn't necessarily the way he wants it to be so i don't see anything happening to them from as far as them losing their seats but they definitely are likely to pay some fines yeah yeah well i mean so what what is your what is your relationship with texas obviously um for the viewers that maybe don't know you um you know who are you and and kind of what's your what's your uh
We cover just Texas politics, and we've broken several big scandals that have made nationwide news quite a few times, even just recently.
So we're kind of like a national inquirer or TMZ of Texas politics covering like cheating affairs and other types of those similar type scandals across Texas and in the politicians.
So we're seeing some of this language from these Texas reps and they're saying Trump's the applying pressure.
Trump's the one applying pressure.
Is this something that, you know, Abbott's been thinking about doing for a while or is there some truth to that that Trump's really the one putting the pressure on Abbott?
Yeah, we saw there was a rep in California who was like doing the whole McPrincibles routine where he was like, oh, we don't want to start a redistricting war.
That would be really mean.
And it's like the most Republican thing ever that we're actually finally starting to use and use our power and flex it.
And then these like hall monitors come along, these self-appointed HR managers come along and say, guys, guys, hey, wait, wait a second.
Because, I mean, what's going to happen is that guy's going to lose his seat if Abbott pushes forward because in California, they're going to redistrict and try and wipe out whatever Republican seats they haven't gerrymandered away yet.
Yeah, the funny thing about California, they're attempting or they're threatening to redistrict.
But what's interesting about California is they have a California's rules or elections for redistricting are based off an independent group and an independent redistricting system.
And so in order for, I think Gavin Newsom has threatened to redistrict California.
In order for him to do that and execute on that, not only will it require, it'll actually, it's going to require a special election that requires voter approval to modify the independent redistricting system.
So he's going to have to call an election.
People are going to have to vote for it and modify their existing rules.
And it's looking, people are estimating it's going to cost over $200 million just to do it.
I'm kind of curious with the special election that's coming up.
I think they eyed September possibly for the election.
I'd be curious how radical Democrats in California are if there actually is potential or if.
Or if there's potential for pushback on this, maybe they do want to keep their commission.
I'm not sure.
I'm not sure.
It's going to be a test of Gavin Newsom's effectiveness to be Democrat leaders if he can really stir up a good narrative for Democrats in California as to why they should get rid of this.
It's quite fascinating, like I kind of touched on earlier, to see this mentality from Republicans to get really nervous when we start winning a little too much.
We're seeing this with that rep. Trump's the one that's obviously led the charge of wiping those people out from the GOP.
What is it about Texas?
Texas seems like Texas does produce quite a good number of effective politicians.
What do you think it is about Texas that does?
Because you see this thing with these deep red states like South Carolina.
They actually produce pretty horrible Republicans because I think they know it's such a safe seat that it doesn't really fire people up.
So they don't feel the need to run.
And then you see these like swing districts.
They were like, you know, Republicans lose half the time and they produce these like rockstar candidates.
What is it about Texas though?
It does feel like there is a higher density of solid Republicans that come out of Texas.
Yeah, I think from the outside looking in, it does appear that way, right?
As someone who covers it day to day and literally the.
only thing we cover is Texas.
There's a lot more nuance to it.
And obviously there's a lot more nitpicking that we can do, right?
Texas, for example, has only been Republican, I think, for like 30 or 40 years.
It used to be a Democrat state.
And as far as like.
things that we've gotten past.
I mean, it was just, I think, two sessions ago that we got constitutional carry for handguns and for whatnot.
So like we're not as conservatives as we should be, right?
We're definitely better than most, but not as good as we should be.
You know, grassroots activists in Texas would cite that we have a lot of rhinos, right?
And that does seem to be a problem that we have a lot of like very soft, squishy Republicans.
But as you mentioned, Trump's kind of been at the top charging and leading the narrative to kind of kind of bully and lead the charge on Republicans and conservatives being a little more active with what they're doing rather than sitting back and letting Democrats walk all over them.
Yeah, I mean, Obviously, there's a lot of concern from Texans of the state going blue with out-of-state migration.
I've pointed out previously that there is exit polling, for example, the Cruz versus Baydo Senate race, where it actually looked like out-of-state voters voted Republican and native Texans voted Democrat.
Have you noticed some of these trends?
Maybe these trends have changed since then?
I mean, what do you suspect will be the future of Texas?
Yeah, I'm so glad you mentioned that because so very few people know that polling.
It's 100% true.
We found that native Texans vote Democrat more than out of state.
We are seeing.
a trend of people that come here and they are aware of the reasons why they come to Texas and they start voting Republican, right?
So that is, it is trending well.
The state is, as far as demographics goes, Hispanics are now, I think, the majority in Texas and whites are now the minority, which is funny.
You got to, you got to wonder if they're going to change if whites will start be able to capitalize on minority benefits and stuff that would be funny yeah um but it's really funny that the narrative from democrats is now like oh this redistricting we can't do it because it's racist towards the latinos and the blacks and um it's very silly messaging because we're starting to see for them because latinos are starting to trend more towards trump um the the democrat base has lost the Hispanic vote.
And we can go into hours as to why they've done that.
But they basically just have white liberals and blacks left as far as a voting base.
Well, I mean, we saw the huge swing in the Rio Grande Valley just in the last, really just since the Trump era, in the Trump era.
There are some fears that when you pick off groups that were not previously Republican or were previously hardcore Democrat, that you do have to concede on some issues.
I think so people are a bit fearful that if you really push hard for the Hispanic vote that you maybe have to lighten your messaging on immigration.
But if anything, Trump was...
I would say for sure in the modern era.
And Hispanics turned out in huge numbers.
I mean, what kind of dynamics is the Texas GOP experimenting with, especially in the Rio Grande Valley?
Yeah, I think when it comes to Hispanics that can vote, so legal Hispanics, they are probably the most anti-immigration, probably more than white people, actually.
kind of ironic.
I think the trend is like, you know, Hispanics come here, they either they're born here and they appreciate being here, the ones that can vote, right?
Or they work hard to get here and make a good life.
And so the ones that just hop the border and skip the line and break the laws, they make them look bad, right?
And they want them out of here.
They don't want them here.
I fall into that category.
I don't want, yeah, it's, it's a, I'm a Hispanic and it's a sense of embarrassment to see these Hispanics that hop over here and commit crimes or other like sexual deviant acts on young children and they make an embarrassment of, of, of, of them, of themselves and other people in the race.
And so, yeah, they want them out of here.
And I think that as far as concession goes, concessions go in the Republican Party, you're not seeing too many, right?
We've still been really, really hard on immigration.
I haven't seen any concessions as far as to appeal to the Hispanic vote.
the funny thing with democrats is they assume that hispanics are all like the same right they assume that like like Puerto Ricans, Cubans, Mexicans, Spanish, Venezuelans are all the same.
They all hate each other.
They all like racists towards each other, right?
Like Puerto Ricans, Cubans, Mexicans, they all don't like each other for multiple reasons.
Yeah.
And so when the Democrats throw lump them all into one giant like voting block, it does create problems and they start to appeal to them and then they realize it doesn't work.
Whereas I think I've seen the Republican Party really hasn't tried to shell so much to Hispanics.
It's more of been like, hey, join us.
Be an American.
Be a conservative.
Be a patriot rather than like trying to like lean into like the pandering.
Yeah, it's, and it's worked so well compared to like, you know, I'm not picking on him specifically, but just from what I can recall is like Bush was like much more on the nose pandering to Hispanics, like, you know, speaking really broken Spanish and like making an enchilada and we're like, yeahah, come vote for us.
I don't know.
And Trump gets up.
He's like, they're all going home.
No more Spanish.
You're never going to have to press two for English again.
And everyone, and like South Texas is like, yeah, that sounds great.
Yeah, I'm an American.
I'm a patriot.
So sign me up.
So it's a beautiful thing.
Another question.
Well, I'm glad you touched on the fact that Hispanics hate it.
They do this thing, Democrats, where they like lump these groups together.
Like Native Americans, it's just Native Americans, broadly speaking, even though there's like a million tribes.
And they do the same thing with Hispanic, where they're like a Mexican and Puerto Rican are like on the same team.
If you ever ask a Puerto Rican what they think about Mexicans, it like sounds like a clan rally.
I mean, it's like ridiculous.
You're sitting there like, geez, can you say these?
things out loud?
You're going to get arrested if you're not careful.
And it's like, bro, you're on the same team, I would assume.
No, they're not.
It gets wild.
But that's kind of one question I want to talk about because why is it that the Hispanic vote in California and the Hispanic vote in Texas diverge so dramatically?
You know, I often wonder if the vibe of California is just such a beautiful place that it just kind of makes you lazy and it just makes you just kind of appreciate the weather and everything and you're just like ah this is all great and life's easy and we're just going to vote democrat i mean i i really can't as somebody that just watches texas i can't really speculate too much but you also got to wonder that the conspiracy theories of if of like non non like non-citizens are voting in these elections and maybe that's kind of skewing some things too but
uh you know you're seeing i think it's if i recall correctly California's facing a kind of a population drop.
They're starting to see a population drop where Texas is increasing.
So people are starting to wake up and they're leaving the state.
I think it was in and out just recently.
announced their headquarters is leaving California.
That is kind of the last, really the only thing California has going for it at this point is the natural beauty.
I mean, Texas, you go to the beach in Galveston once, that's a radicalizing experience.
There's like sewage, like sloshing up.
on the ocean and you're just like yeah get all these illegals out of here i don't want to give me like a victory here it's brutal um yeah so that's kind of the interesting i mean texas really is emerging as the hub for industry um you know austin obviously is this burgeoning tech hub i mean from from you as a texan do you think this is sustainable you think this will continue to be the trend going forward Yeah, I mean, we're getting our own stock exchange soon, right?
I think AT ⁇ T is already committed to it as of other industries, right?
There's a lot of investment in like Bitcoin and Bitcoin mining and other things like that.
You have a lot of companies coming here the biggest problems we're facing are energy uh which is something that um even Democrats are talking about.
So that's going to be a big concern is energy and energy consumption and then water.
Something that a lot of people aren't talking about enough is our lack of available water, right?
Something I think that a lot of people forget, a lot of these Bitcoin mining facilities and these storage facilities, they require a lot of water to cool and to operate and we just don't have enough of it.
Yeah, I mean, the population growth, I think that's part of the reason that's being contributed to the necessitating the redistricting or, you know or yeah redistricting is because the population has grown so quickly in very specific regions just in the last five years that it that does necessitate a reshifting around of some of these lines um i mean there's it's by 2030 i mean the amount of electoral districts texas could have i've seen the projections like they could pick up like four or
five especially because new york and illinois are bleeding people left and right what what kind of What does that do for the mentality?
Because when you meet people from the Sun Belt specifically, they are much happier, much more optimistic.
And then you meet people from the Rust Belt, there is kind of a sense of nihilism.
This is coming from someone that lives, you know, up more in the Rust Belt area.
Is that just due to the growth?
I mean, Texas really is kind of the place to be right now.
And, um, that sounds really great but also the property taxes come with that so my taxes have gone up like crazy traffic is in traffic is insane um you know it's kind of getting a little now i wouldn't say unsustainable but it's getting a little annoying as a town that's been here for a long time all the people that are coming here uh but with that comes opportunity right and um a lot of growth you know as somebody i live in the burbs outside of dallas okay i'm very happy to be at but
um the Dallas proper, the city, one of the things it faces a lot that I think any major city faces is increasing homeless and crime.
And that's of course because it's run by Democrats.
It's not legislated properly against and it'll probably continue to get worse until it gets better.
But they made this announcement on like one of the worst days to make this.
We've got like all these Democrats fleeing and they're talking about arrests and fines and they announce like we've got base basically World War III going on here in Texas.
And then he announces, oh, we've got an endorsement from Rick Perry.
And then everybody's like, okay, yeah, anyway.
So, but yeah, it's kind of, it's, I don't like to make predictions as a journalist too much, but it is looking like Paxton's got it in the bag minus some major scandal.
And I don't know what kind of scandal it would have to be.
I think that Paxton is just kind of walking into that spot.
you know that front do you think that it seems the base really wants these democrats arrested or held responsible for doing this i mean do you think that plays well for them in upcoming elections if they are able to pull something off?
Actually, I think it plays well for both parties, right?
If you're a Democrat and you're seeing your rep out there like fleeing the state in order to fight against this stuff, like you're gung ho about it, right?
And I'm seeing it, you know, my state rep is a Democrat.
They're sending out text messages for fundraisers, right?
All these Democrats are using this opportunity to raise money and also to when they're up for reelection to say, you know, I'm a strong Democrat.
I fought for you.
I even fled the state to avoid this, right?
And Republicans are using this as well to fundraise and to.
say, hey, you know, these Democrats are horrible.
You need to vote for me because I'm going to fight against this.
There's already been two bills filed today by both the Senate and the House that pushes harder penalties if politicians leave for more than seven unexcused days.
House Rep Briscoe Cain filed that bill, seven unexcused absences, and their office is considered vacant.
And that was filed today, the irony being that we don't have a quorum, so it can't get passed.
So yeah, it's been filed, but unless the Democrats come back, nothing's going to happen.
And they're also looking at filing charges, bribery charges against not only the reps but also people that are giving money to the reps for being gone so we'll see how that plays out in court i mean that would be a beautiful that would play so well with the base that would turn them into rock stars overnight but um yeah these these tends to happen at these stories where you get really excited and then they just kind of just show up the bill gets passed and then you forget about the story um fingers crossed that really happens uh one question uh one question what's up with the the James Tallerico
guy where he gets up and he's like, if you're a Christian, you're not gay, like you're not a Christian.
Tallerico will probably run for a higher office and lose too.
And they say it every year like, oh, the signs are everywhere.
The lines are off the door.
It doesn't matter.
Texas is huge.
Texas is bigger than most countries.
So it doesn't really matter if there's a bunch of signs or a bunch of lines in a city for a guy.
It doesn't really reflect the entire voting base of Texas.
Texas is so ginormous that people often forget that the rural areas, the areas that these politicians don't go to, have a massive influence on statewide elections.
The mood of Democrats nationwide, but specifically in Texas, we saw it on full display with Jasmine Crockett like melting down these last few days.
They really do have the sense of being powerless.
Do you think when they're cornered, do you think they have any more tricks up their sleeve or do you think this is just a new era and this is just they're going to have to complain all the time?
You know, Democrats have the same tired messaging where it's always just racism.
Everything's racist.
You know, the redistricting is racist.
And it's just it's very exhausting.
I think it's it's played out now.
If Democrats were smart and if they actually wanted to win, they would turn to be back to being normal.
We're talking like the 90s era of Democrats where the where they're just like moderate leftists.
Right.
I think a lot of people could probably relate to some of the stuff that they they push, but they're so insane with the the transgender stuff and the body mutilation and all of that.
It's it's gone to it's gone too far.
seeing a lot of these companies kind of start to swing their advertising from like these disgusting fat androgynous models to like attractive women like the Sydney Sweeney thing right um because we're returning back to like to normalcy we're finally starting to see some like real like what people expect to see in our advertising our movies and our culture and uh democrats if again if they were smart they would embrace it but I don't they're not so I don't see them doing that anytime soon well, I appreciate it, man.