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Ladies and gentlemen, I can't see any of you because the lights are so bright, but who cares?
He put in his own people, Dan Bonjino, Deputy Director of FBI.
He put in Cash Patel, these fucking crazies who promised they would release these files, and they're not doing it.
And they're going and they're talking now about like floating a pardon for Maxwell.
Are you shitting me?
And now you're going to tell us, I bet you, as soon as he pardons Maxwell, you guys are going to defend it because you're shills and you don't want to actually break a relationship with the White House.
If you really actually look at this, though, I think we can estimate, and I don't know this for sure, but that this is classified levels of information that we're not allowed to share.
Listen, I think that people are, yeah, the left is kind of...
I'm okay with giving temporary immunity if it leads to indictments on the line.
The problem is you can't trust this White House that they're not cooking some deal with Maxwell right now.
You couldn't trust someone that said, we have the files that are on my desk.
And then it's, oh, the files don't exist.
And then finally, they were made by Obama.
No one, not even the most credulous member of this audience believes that Obama made the fucking epstein files give me a break so we don't trust the administration they have no credibility that's not true i believe it should pan bondi resign yes or no across the board i believe obama made the should pan bondi resign that you said something else should pan bondi resign i'm i don't even understand what you're asking me because i'm not on the off topic i think she should be fired i mean pan bondi should be fired i mean i think so do people think do you think that pan bondi should be fired well i don't hey but i don't like that pan bondi was the attorney general of florida when epstein
does one bad thing so when you it's like you caught your dad farting when you won't shut up about one bad thing do you mean when you say you did one bad thing yeah he didn't covering up a pedophile ring is that what you mean by one bad thing first of all just we were never big on epc you never big on epc it's a bunch of guys 17 year old we never I don't think Trump fucked 17-year-olds.
Should who be fired should pam bondi be fired to to be honest that's a very specific question related to an administration for which i don't have enough information on the epsteen files that's because you have to build up your credibility with the white house because ultimately you rely on those relationships and so not going to come out and say what pam bondi did can you at least admit she blew it she blew it down she blew it down because i think everybody agrees the face up because listen listen yeah if we're being honest about what pam bondi has done It is a political question.
It is an HR question of whether she's being effective.
My personal opinion is she's not, but I don't know what else is going on.
And so you're asking me about a hiring and firing decision of which someone I'm disappointed in who's fucked up really bad.
Her job right now is running, just like Tulsi Gabbard, just like Dan Bongino, is to go on Fox News and yap all day.
Is she enforcing the fucking law?
No, she's not.
She's doing her makeup and she's going on Fox News.
That's her job right now and running cover now.
That's why Tulsi is putting in, you know, Obama, the Obama files.
No one believes it.
It's one distraction after another.
They're going to release you the MLK files.
Like, anyone's going to be distracted.
They're going to give this, like, bullshit theory about Obama.
gate and the Obama files like that's going to just let's let's let's let's what's bullshit about it about what the MLK files the Obama files yep well okay so the Obama file narrative is bullshit because there is no contradiction between the allegation made by Obama in or sorry the IC community I think we need to support Trump even if he is abstinent because he's the only one trying to save the country you're sitting there that's your that's your priority he just said we should the great white hole he just said we should You guys laugh it off as a joke.
we need a beer for gabby can we get it well i don't let's let's let's start here real quick for pisco uh yeah the the september 18th 2020 ica stated that Obama ordered Brennan to release raw intelligence that was not up to their standards for release as they found it to be highly dubious.
The predicate for the narrative that Vladimir Putin wanted Trump to win was a sentence fragment.
It was incomplete.
and five different analysts read it five different ways.
or so later wikileaks wikilix in coordination with the ira and the gru release a bunch of materials just who is Just coincidentally, the hour after, we have actual records of these.
uh the 2020 ice a was no i mean though the ice aim was was clear as well as the taylor report there's two ice at least i said that's why i said 2020 the 2017 one um the right the 2021 said the senate intelligence uh 2020 the house led by marco rubio devin new has led one they they all come to the same conclusion and now you're By the way, you're relitigating this, even though it's already been established.
Even though in Tulsi Gabbard's own statement, she's acknowledging that the Russians are at least interfering.
Will you at least acknowledge now that Russia interfered in our election in 2016?
And I'm not saying one's right or the other, but you're are choosing one is correct and ignoring the evidence so i'm choosing if we're just doing this based on who do you trust right so you're trusting the ica the ica over john durham over robert mueller over uh the you know the overall state department and the 2020 ica was in excess of evidence and they're all distracted intelligence committee yes now we're relitigating the 2016 election instead of talking about epstein because that's what trump wants you to do and those are your marching orders i mean like but i'm happy to move on from epstein if we can just acknowledge it's uncomfortable to continue talking
it's all means to them a minute please go it's all means to them i mean like wow i mean we're trying to catch your question do you like mike pence do i like him no i don't like him okay so we're in agreement i don't think trump is winning until mike pence how about that okay i can't see anybody i can't see anybody because of the lights here but i would like to see a raise of hands who thinks mike pence should yeah does she need to yeah does she need to see i didn't say that i said the Is a reference.
Let me say this because it's a side question of the question of what Trump's administration is capable of.
But in the culture war, I think it is fair to say perhaps we haven't won, but we have an insurmountable advantage on this battlefield with an example being after the event was pulled.
I got on the phone with Alex Stein screaming that they got us, they got us.
And Alex said, We'll never get the show back.
And then the next day, within less than 12 hours, we got the show back, all three of them.
the conditions for example that they need to check to make sure that everyone is um you know not treating israel differently than they would treat other countries making sure there's no anti-semitism curriculum which you know they were beating the shit out of jewish students harassing them they were attacking janitors so you're acknowledging that you agree with the government getting in there and deciding what's fit for the curriculum of columbia they're taking government money they're taking government money and jewish kids are getting harassed and having locked themselves in rooms so you're okay with what's getting yeah i'm sick it's sick that trump
is going in there make all the curriculum israel yes or no he's going to agree with that you can't have my money if you support you're not pro israel if you're not right is that right is that right peace go let me is that right
can't get the money unless you're pro-israel like i had to phrase it in my own way and you're going to say is that right is that wrong answer because what is this like college what would gabin i'm gonna answer your point right now please go i'm gonna answer you i'm gonna answer you um i don't think anybody should be forced to be pro-israel but if the question is like an institution is discriminating against a group based on race or ethnicity then the government should intervene to stop that yeah oh really i mean you kind of sound like the way i think of it as like a white power rally with all these tags yeah that's that's that's that's All blacks go home.
I could not appreciate his honesty more that what you have always supported what we have always opposed was the use of violence against ideas you did not like so when i see you know far leftists showing up we have protesters outside right now like threatening threat should be a right no it's bigger than that there's two groups oh they're now yeah put them in jail when when when leftists threaten to murder me and my family and they do That's a problem.
So if there are people at a university and they're targeting any racial group or ethnic group, it is the job, in my opinion, of government to be like, hey, our law enforcement will will not let you do this.
think the campus lefties definitely went too far and i was writing like uh you know in in my student newspaper saying like you know let kids wear sombreros all right i'm hispanic and people called me like an Uncle Jose because I was like, I don't care about ponchos.
I don't care about sombreros.
I'm cool with all that shit.
But what we're talking about is something different is the government stepping in and saying, hey, have you read that letter to Harvard, by the way?
We're like, you have to have a monitor to check whether there's anti-Semitism.
This is literally campus police.
And you guys should care about it if you care about it.
that's not and i don't i don't like the idea that uh...
i think it is fair to say that while there is a surface level principled argument on It is pretty obvious the State Department was pulling visas from people critical of Israel.
mahmoud khalil and did you support mahmoud khalil in that conversation you were a little waving i don't my do i support him in what capacity i i should not have his green card taken away because of his statements yeah well you understand you guys are done with free speech like i'm you made me into a hypocrite I want leftist bands canceled.
There is nothing that prospers more in America than anti-Semitism.
You can go anywhere.
It's the cool thing to do with young people.
legal and they all wear kafias we got muslims outside that are mad at tim i don't know why he insulted muhammad or something so should it be I think there's a real problem with anti-Semitism being, you know, being, being, uh, widespread.
It's fucking everywhere, bro.
So he would throw you in jail because it's anti-white.
I will, I will add, um, to Gavin's point i don't know that i would go as hard with it the way he's describing it but we have talked about how my position my position on free speech has changed slightly in that in the in the 2010s i would do this thing where i'm like Look, I don't agree with what you say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it.
And then I realized, I'm done with that.
I was handing weapons to the people trying to destroy me.
And so I said, revision.
I will defend your right to speak so long as you agree with my right to speak.
But if you are a communist or Marxist or fundamentalist who wants to strip rights from other people, I will not defend you in any sense.
The problem with the First Amendment is I think it is often conceived as an individual right.
And I think that it should be better thought as a restriction on the power of government, right?
What does the First Amendment say?
Congress shall make no law abridging the freedom of speech.
And so when you make the right of free speech contingent on how other people treat your right, I think you're missing the point of the First Amendment, which is saying that we don't trust the elites.
We don't trust the government shills to decide for themselves what is anti-Semitic, what's fit for consumption, and what's not, except for in narrow categories of things like, you know, illegal pornography, things like harassment, things like defamation.
Those categories are historical exceptions.
but broadly we don't trust the government with that.
I mean, he's winning at doing something bad if that's your like thank you for coming everybody this has been the culture where trump is so real quick so um let's go see can i get a beer i don't think they have bud but yeah dude like i'd love a beer too is there like a waitress is there is there a waiter waitress saying let's uh let's but let's let's like wait let's like wait to the hard issues the hard facts border security trump says zero the reporting zero i don't i even said i don't believe that number is really low but
the border biometrics that does appear to be secure.
There is a possibility that this will be the first net negative migration month as an agenda item for the Trump voters and for the Trump administration, that is winning.
I don't give credit for someone getting border numbers down, border crossings down by doing illegal shit.
So for example.
So for example, illegal renditions without due process to CICOT, that's illegal shit.
Closing asylum down, as was found by a district court, I think a couple weeks ago.
The same thing that Biden did, by the way, which I critique, I said it was impeachable when Biden did it in contravention of the asylum statutes and the immigration nationality act that's illegal that he's doing um so the and then you see it you see it if you disagree they want to use the powers of the state against bro he's joking i know i know but like it's just it's part of that it's part of that i think just uh classic authoritarian all right well look i'll give you the credit for that your job is to give you the authoritarian we're gonna we're gonna retitle No authoritarian jokes, please.
You know, you're asking about trump up and i hear these liberals saying trump is acting real guilty and then when he asks you about a dog to make a point you refuse to answer it you're sounding real guilty hang on a second so what liberals are saying what the left is saying with the epstein files is that he is covering up and we're saying that about the dog right now so but that's topical to the president of the united states that trump is all right and that's based on his actual conduct There's a relevance in this room.
You're saying, can anyone imagine the left went through the kind of scrutiny that the right goes through?
Can you imagine if conservative straight white males went through or anyone but that group had to deal with the kind of scrutiny that group gets?
Like if we fucking fart in the morning, these lefties, if you just cover up the Epstein files, if you cover that up, they fucking destroyed this country since Obama.
They talk over you.
They won't shut the fuck up.
And we have to sit there prostrating ourselves, begging for forgiveness for January 6 and the Epstein files.
When they keep destroying this fucking country with their communist fucking sabotage.
Yeah, but now everybody here thinks they're going to take everything you said less seriously because I asked you as a joke sort of and you won't even say you didn't.
it down all right now let's call the name let's go uh give it up for elizabeth guys we like that she got scammed by matton all right the next victim the one the only max goddard come on down come on max is max here that's not as cool of a name as elizabeth travis i like that name i know she's garter's kind of a weird name it's Randy Travis.
I will just say I think Trump's successes, the right successes are less because of our successes and more because of just the left's failures yeah i mean the left they they don't have any leadership they don't have any i mean they're just kind of lukewarm at this point there's not there's not really anything going on with them um i think the left has been they're demotivated they they have no drive anymore they have no i mean i think that's why they're farming
I mean, the decrease in illegal immigration that we have, that's excellent.
That's awesome.
I just, I mean, the Epstein stuff was that was a major setback.
That was bad.
That was a major setback.
You think?
Nuts.
I think...
But I think, I think it's, you know, right now we're kind of at a stag a little bit of a stagnation and the the left i mean they haven't they don't really have much standing anymore what do you think the doge that was a failure right no it did great elon musk has a tape it was abandoned too early elon musk said it was a it was a failure so now it's a loss if the win isn't winny enough no no i'm just so elon musk says the whole project is fucking stupid because they got this bill to be fair he is our shadow president we just don't tell the liberals well i just want to
say like The whole idea that breakup did break my heart.
Yeah, so like you don't want us funding these coups and foreign countries agreed coups in foreign countries so should we should we also by the way defund israel yes sure yeah okay so why is trump do you think why is aoc voting to fund israel why is trump being netanyahu's bitch uh he's got big beef with netanyahu they're not getting along at all oh he's giving them an open hand but you know to to be honest like i i can i try to look at the big picture of us foreign policy
President Trump also said that a key component of reduction in prices would be the unlocking American energy and the decrease in costs in the energy sector would drive that.
And he specifically stated that it would take up to a year for those results to come about.
So here we are after six months and you're complaining about promises that have a future.
So one of the things that Elon was arguing about in the big beautiful bill, you can say that it's self-serving all you want, but they got rid of a lot of these subsidies to improve energy.
It's actually booming in places like Texas at all for like electric cars and those kinds of energy sectors, solar energy, that kind of stuff.
We're falling behind China now and these tariffs aren't going to make prices be better.
They're going to make prices be worse.
That's why the Federal Reserve has not lowered interest rates yet because they're worried about the inflationary effect of tariffs and you know it.
promise yeah so far the tariffs you know it and everybody knows it and you know it that's why it's really irritating do you agree with the tariffs Yeah.
sir i think it's you you know and i like great i want to smell your after i don't know about that i don't get out much here's what here's all safety skills Trump has made a ton of promises he did not fulfill, but that doesn't mean he isn't winning.
So I think it's fair to say Trump promised this, that, or otherwise.
We didn't get there.
We didn't get on some of these there yet.
Some look like we're not going to get.
But across the board, we still face a net positive from his administration based on what we voted for.
You try to overturn you try to overturn who would a plumber rather have a beer with you dare you overturn the election you and your criminal friends yeah what you you and your criminal friends try to overturn our election you yes your criminal friends that you're that your buddy in the white house pardoned these cop beaters and thugs that's what that's what you so so you don't like america you don't like the due process clause of the constitution you don't like the first amendment of the constitution um so To be 100% clear,
I think that you stand in stark contrast to what America means and what it represents.
So it's the clause says subject to the jurisdiction thereof.
And that clause is meant to incorporate the English common law rule of birthright citizenship.
And that rule, as understood in the Supreme Court in Wong Kim Mark, you can read the case, applies to any persons, born in this country, excluding like two or three categories of historical exceptions, what year was Juan Kimart?
just work with the test of the question of what year was the fourteen eighteen sixty eight and what year was one come out couple decades after that is that it's a two or three it's it may be so my period it seems like if there's a supreme court case on this it meant that there was actually a debate happening for a generation as to whether or not actually applied to citizens no it's not drugs that i had a supreme court so what went to the supreme court was one instance where uh...
you know the child press it was set no the child of labor was coming back into the country was born the country and he was you know um but they will be didn't have the in a back then this these categories of here without status these are modern conceptions and like i just explained to you that someone filed a lawsuit in 1875 was the very first restrictive immigration law so So in the 1890s, when this precedent was set about birthright citizenship, it was actually contested to the Supreme Court.
marching yes i just i just learned something uh someone super ched at irl and explained to me that illegal immigrants count as three fifths of a person it's true they do that i'm not it's it's not it's in it's in uh it is in the constitution we looked it up it literally is it doesn't say slaves it literally says all other persons have as many body parts like to sell so it'll be the same amount of money but it's only three fifths so they got to sell at cheaper rate are immigrants free persons according it it says all other persons.
to what do you think it referred to it referred to people in this country who are citizens of this country no that's not what it says so so you're saying framers were smart men they knew the difference between a person and a citizen for example in like the 14th amendment privileges or immunities clause it makes reference to citizens when the requirements 14 as well it says these are lawyers they're smart so you're not just going to make a mistake like that so is a person a citizen they're kind of better than those lawyers are not all persons are citizens but some citizens so not all indentured are indentured servants servants are free without indentured servants
aren't free persons but non-citizens are illegal illegal immigrants who are paying off debts to have traveled here indentured servants or free persons so it'll depend on the context obviously if it's illegal so i accept your distinction and i will clarify my position many of the illegal immigrants like the ones they caught on the farm at the marijuana farm are actually indentured servants they pay smugglers and coyotes and they owe them a debt and have to work on cartel farms uh illegally in the united states to pay off the debt for travel we call that indentured servitude and
massage parlors three fifths of a person yeah so but i'm not in agreement though but if that relationship is illegal then by the law they're not indentured servitudes.
6-7 Kevin and Tim Cass Media just released a documentary on all of this called Sin Frontera, hour and 46 minutes long, documenting all of the trafficking and all of the shit.
Now, I actually brought Kim up here for a personal reason.
Kim and I both agree that we did not land on the moon.
And I know Tim over here, these libtards, they think we're able to go in a spaceship in 1969 through 1972 back and forth to the moon on one tank of gas.
I just saw Kim, and I know Kim because I did teach her about the moon, but we had to have a three-minute talk because, listen, we're not going to just sit here and talk about Trump the whole time.
This gentleman down here is trying to destroy my son.
my sons and my grandchildren's life their future how do you mean and everything that they stand for because i stand up calling you a socialist because you you only take sides against the people that you dislike so so unfair you don't admit to the truth about the fact that biden never one time signed a damn thing.
it could be kind of hard you know around this no i appreciate it so how do you how do you define winning i think winning is uh achieving an aim a what achieving an aim so based on the platform that he ran on do you think he's achieved anything i think it's a mixed bag if you go by the platform that he set out but i but i take my winning my version of winning to be different like what you guys would consider winning i think on both sides at least for you guys it's a mixed bag definitely and
for me it's so given that he's he's he's from our party um most i would assume from our side we think he's winning does that qualify obviously you think he wouldn't be winning because you're on the other side but yeah no so i'm here to convince you on your own terms sure not a but you're you're subjecting him to your terms too both i'm doing so could we agree that the term should probably be the campaign platform that he ran on um i don't know about that so why not so if what you mean by is trump winning uh semantically you mean is he achieving
what he wants to achieve then by yes then analytically by by definition he's doing what he's doing perfect but that's not give it up guys give it up hang on i because because it's a little debate broie but that's trivially true if what you're saying is by definition he's winning because he's doing what he wants and what he wants to do is what he does, then okay, if that's what your standard for winning is, then I guess analytically you win the debate, but that's not what most people think.
Your definition of winning should be the one that we're following well no i think even under the i'm appealing to maga supporters i think what i take to be their collective expectations for trump And I think we're, I think the fact that we're here says that he is actually achieving something close to our expectations.
So the fact that people are coming out in D.C. Do you really think we're here to discuss whether the person in the White House is doing what they want to do and therefore they're achieving by definition what they're doing?
You want him to release the Epstein files yes okay he's failing on that correct no why not okay so oh it takes time it takes time why does it take so much time oh every time timpool timpool brought something up okay uh some episode ago where he said that because he has this the sort of positions that we have we're willing to tolerate some of the things that he's not doing well Would you say that that's fair?
That if we, if somebody's out there that's actually fighting for this nation, that we'd be willing to tolerate with them.
Yeah, so I think that some amount of tolerance is expected.
And I think it's perfect.
But the Epstein stuff, unlike what Gavin suggested, is central to your methodology.
uh giving more money to cbp to ice getting these people out of here that shouldn't be here actually changing the conversation in this nation giving people like us the opportunity to say hey we're done we're not putting up with this crap that you're putting over here So then you must say, tell me how that's not winning.
Yeah, so Are we all deluded?
If all you wanted was funding like Border Patrol That's all I want.
Over Epstein, I just want to point out that it was the Republicans that were frustrated We don't know what's happening in the background, but it was Democrats that jumped on afterwards.
Do you support the bill they did pass, which increased the debt ceiling?
It did.
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CBO didn't count.
in the the uh the tax cuts that were no no these are these are incredibly rosy assessments they're giving rosy assessments and he just he just increased the deficit massively the deficit in june they just found that there was that's because that's how they collect taxes.
I want to just, I can't remember who was on the show saying this, but they were like, the deficit voter is fake and doesn't exist.
Literally no one gives a fuck about the deficit.
They just pretend to when it's politically advantageous.
And then every, and then every, and then every, indeed, indeed, because every party just says, remove the debt ceiling, crank up the budget, give me the money, and then the other side pretends like they're upset until they do the exact same thing.
I keep seeing him on Twitter saying that they're going to kill him or him in jail.
I think that he's going to probably have consensual sex in jail and he just wants an excuse for it.
I think he's, yeah, I don't know.
I don't think he's going to get, I think he's going to, he might be trying to ruin people though in just the way that some gay people do when they try to convince straight people that they're also gay.
But speaking of, sorry to interrupt, but speaking of hypocrisy, his sentence was fucking insane.
It's 87 months.
And we, the left protects all their people and forgives their corruption what he he spent some campaign money on bow ties this guy's just uh no we forgive him 87 months is fucking nuts i want corruption on our side too i don't i think i disagree on corruption for both sides unless it's republican which is agreeing with you but i don't know i don't like him i mean i don't think that guy's actually no one likes him yeah why would you let him but i want him forgiven because he's technically on our side i don't think that's true at all i think he's i
don't think he gives a shit about anything i think that he's the type of guy who would want to be on like rupaul's drag race but he realized he didn't have to look for it so he started trying to become a republican which is a very odd route to fame but i mean i guess it worked for him.
The list is a figurative statement of people who are associated with Epstein who are engaged in child sex trafficking, or they were bringing these teenage girls under the excuse of modeling or coming to islands and then...
And we want to try to get through the the rest of the names, so let's get going.
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Yeah, one minute, bud.
Hi, so my name is Jack Travis.
I'm from Cincinnati, Ohio.
And one of the things I've come to care quite a lot about is labor rights.
At the gas station I'm working at, they do ice cream, they do roller food, and they do...
And they're constantly understaffing the stores, which is leading to worker stress, worker turnover, and they're refusing to pay people what they're worth.
And I was thinking that there should be some laws potentially in place that for however many grills you have in like, let's say Wendy's, you have to employ this amount of people because the effect it has mentally on workers, I think is.
But the idea that you would work at a shop and you're like, hey, you don't give me enough money.
It's like, there's the door, buddy.
It's my gas station.
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go find a job somewhere else I think that at this point, especially with how urban some areas have gotten, that there's too many people and that they're able to one by one exploit people and move on.
The problem is you are willing to complain but not willing to take action.
And your boss says, if that's, I can do it, I can do it.
And so if everybody who worked there walked out, he'd be like, please stop.
No, come back.
What do you want?
But you guys aren't willing to take the action necessary.
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This is what has always bothered me in my whole life of someone coming out and being like, I. like i want something you've got i won't do anything to get it but i will ask the government to point a gun at you and take it from you no i think i well i mean you brought up the illegal immigration i think there's i think there's yeah i so as far as the illegal like you brought up the illegal immigration i think there's a surplus of workforce in america right now that makes it impossible for workers,
especially in these lower-end jobs that often do not have unions, to enforce their rights.
Put your nose to the grindstone and Gavin Gavin based on today's women I don't know man Hey one last thing back in with you in like five years One last thing Peace Co.
What's the dog the top or the bottom?
He finished strong I did not expect that burn from Jack Yeah, that was a heavy burn.
All right now our next It's the problem that all you guys think you're above getting beer and you just like delegate it to the lower classes like I don't know you're not special The talent needs a fucking beer.
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And you're just being an asshole, making it about you yeah you suck so much but it's just frustrating you're asking me out who really want an opportunity yeah no literally you're like a shaking a bachelorette shut your mouth seriously all right now uh doll face you got one minute thank you so much okay so i actually had the pleasure of meeting tim last year at rescue the republic it was my first event as press actually uh uh uh you sound like the apparently
series of questions under samuel huntington's clash of civilizations and francis fukuyama's end of history theories that i ask military veterans for the most part i'm a marine corps veteran and army service i got dolphins um as a name on a in So it's, you know, not what people generally think.
But I'd like to ask Tim, if not the rest of the panel, my first among a series of true, false questions that, excuse me, that I generally ask.
I mean, like if you look at World War I, for example, probably like the German then existing system was closer to some of the other Western allies than it was to Russians as far as Russia.
of another president is not enough, if you look at Trump's voter base in the heartland, the people that got him elected in the swing states, they do not give a fuck about Epstein.
This dipshit wants you to believe that we just spent the most amount of money on any single bill in the history of the country.
And he wants to tell you that the budget situation is fine because on one month, when we're collecting all these tax revenues, when we're collecting all these tax revenues, what was most of the bills spent on?
It posted a surplus when we had that back in Biden's administration.
Maybe I was wrong on most of that money going to DHS spending, but that money going to DHS spending and ICE is actually going to help us long term because we're going to save money from the money that's going to be leached.
Do you agree that border crossings are at an all time low and that saves the country money long term and it saves us the entire country from leeching our tax dollars.
So on if Trump is winning, at least from the Texas perspective, I can tell you that it's a huge, huge win.
Texas spent billions securing the southern border.
And we just got paid back for that.
And not only that.
We're going to spend another just billions and billions on now kicking off mass deportations in Texas with the National Guard getting ready for two large detention facilities.
And we're deputizing National Guard DAG officers so they can process these people out of here.
So that being said, huge win for the border issue from Texas.
Okay, so I think that when you have whistleblowers coming out and saying that like because of these new policies for Christine Nome that they were delayed in their calls that when they you know so do you deny that do you deny that I deny that I was there I was there on the ground day one defunding the National Weather Service defunding it up when was the last time I was there is this is this every Republican in DC when was the last time you were in Texas In Texas?
So what you're proposing, right, this policy is absolutely, when you have arbitrary numbers that Stephen Miller is giving them, they're going to get the Consuelas of the world.
And what you're saying is they're not going after Consuelas.
I think that's why Trump's approval numbers on immigration are going down.
I think most Americans, if you ask them, if you ask them, the reason the numbers are going down is because people thought he wasn't doing mass deportations.
Mexico is constantly deporting illegal aliens from Mexico right you know that Jamaica is constantly deporting illegal aliens it sure sounds like It sounds like you guys don't understand that everyone has an idea.
And I really appreciate you guys coming to actually hear debate.
I think that debate matters.
And I think that convincing people matters.
One of the things that Democrats really...
And that's why I really appreciate being invited here and trying to hear me out at least, you know, to the best of your ability.
I want to point it out, too, if you think he's doing a bad job of it then let the whole world see that yeah if he's filibustering and cancel questions then everyone's going to watch you can tell trump is doing a great job because he's making all the right people big mad look how trigged pisco is look how angry he is why you mad bro wait no i i do get triggered because i love this country you know you might not think i doubt doubt doubt i i stand on business for this country i respect the constitution of it the rule of law and um you You might not agree with
my points, but on that sincerity, I promise you, like, I love this country.
Really quick, guys, while he's making his way down here, if you have a mustard bottle on your table that happens to have an autograph on it, you have won yourself a skateboard please proceed to the hallway and pick it up shout out to ray Who works here and autographed the mustard shout out to Ray Check your mustard if it's signed you won't work right right work right all right will what do you got for us bro?
Okay, is Trump winning?
Yes is Trump fucking yes because he's not going far enough.
He should be telling these judicial judges to off.
He should be arresting these judicial judges.
He should be telling them to go bye-bye because they shouldn't be ruling for everything for the United States.
The Supreme Court has one job to rule for the United States.
And they're not going far enough either.
When they did their last bill, I mean, their last ruling, they didn't specify stuff.
They only made it broad.
So my question is to you, do you think Trump is winning?
Like you're saying that Trump should be arresting these judges.
The Supreme Court has been so deferential to Trump on so many issues.
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Yeah, but the whole thing is the Supreme Court should have ruled that the judicial that are not, like in Michigan or in California, do not have the right to tell New York or New Jersey or...
Article 3 standing is like basically if you have one litigant who has Article 3 standing, that is to say that there's a case or controversy under Article 3 of the Constitution, then basically everyone comes in.
So it's not a jurisdictional issue because there are at least some persons who would be granting standing.
So even though there's a bunch of rules about like, you know, injury and fact causation, but there's basically carve outs for, for example, in abortion cases for the longest time, where if there's no means to bring the case before a court because of practicalities, there are exceptions for that., but we're not even talking about constitutional standing.
We're just now talking about class certification.
And the rules for class certification are different than standing rules.
If the kind of relief, so if the kind of relief that they seek to aim is indivisible or otherwise The right to life?
Yeah, so the people who become the right to life count?
So the right to life...
No, guys, just listen.
You guys get so triggered you can't actually hear like an actual answer.
So on the one hand, the legal analysis of whether constitutionally the term persons encompasses unborn persons is a separate issue than whether or not you can certify a class that includes future persons.
No, I'm mad at the people like you that are letting people get naked in the streets in front of children on these pride parades and being like, oh, yeah, no.
i talked about epstein before what specific oh you talked about you i mentioned him in passing you will do anything you'll do anything to shove responsibility now onto me like this is my fault i'm trying to figure out what your motive is i mean the guy that'ss all of a sudden cares about Jeffrey Epstein.
for why he hasn't done it already i think the the answer to the question that was posed is an easy yes for a variety of reasons so let's just run down real quick i could have given an easy no why would he have he?
let's just wrap this thing up thank you guys so much for being here that has been the second ever culture war live We appreciate all the people that came up here.
Now we got to get out of here, but before we go, starting with Nick, everybody introduce yourself.
Trump is a disaster, losing on the economy, losing on prices, going over constitutional rights like they're nothing, sucks on immigration, absolutely corrupt, $400 million Qatari, being a fucking shell, being a shell for Israel, being a shell for BB Netanyahu, bombing Iran when that's what his daddy told him to do, BB Netanyahu.
And so yeah, it's complete disaster.
And now you're seeing people give cover.
And if he actually ends up pardoning Maxwell, they'll defend it too, because they'll defend anything this guy does.
