Is Trump Still Winning? | The Culture War LIVE Debate
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I bet you, as soon as he pardons Maxwell, you guys are going to defend it because you're shills and you don't want to actually break into the relationship with the White House.
If you really actually look at this, though, I think we could estimate, and I don't know this for sure, but that this is classified levels of information that we're not allowed to do.
The September 18th, 2020, ICA stated that Obama ordered Brennan to release raw intelligence that was not up to their standards for release as they found it to be highly dubious.
The predicate for the narrative that Vladimir Putin wanted Trump to win was a sentence fragment.
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It was incomplete, and five different analysts read it five different ways.
And now you're, by the way, you're relitigating this, even though it's already been established, even though in Tulsi Gabbert's own statement, she's acknowledging that the Russians are at least interfering.
Will you at least acknowledge now that Russia interfered in our election in 2016?
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To an irrelevant degree.
Okay, it's irrelevant.
People actually contested this.
People would actually prefer Hillary because Putin wants chaos and Hillary would be bad for America.
And that's what he wants.
So the 2020 ICA pointed out that Hillary was sick, and there was some analysts that believed having a sickly coughing.
You know, Hillary, of course, was on some medication.
They said she had pneumonia.
She collapsed outside of the World Trade Center Memorial event.
And one of the arguments, this is from the ICA report.
Putin wanted her because she was unstable and was concerned about an aggressive Trump.
But we don't know because the initial raw intelligence in 2016 was a sentence fragment that Obama determined, despite not meeting the standards of the intelligence community, would be published anyway, for which over the objections of members of the ICA.
I can't see anybody because of the lights here, but I would like to see a raise of hands who thinks Mike Pence should be.
unidentified
Yeah, DeGenova.
Yeah, DeGenos.
I didn't say that.
I said the reference.
I think proof that we're winning is this event.
What, Game of Thrones?
They shut it down, and then everyone who wanted to see this said, don't shut it down, and we had it back.
I've never seen that happen before.
Yeah, so guys, give yourselves a round of applause for being here.
And try to shut it down.
Let me say this, because it's a side question of the question of what Trump's administration is capable of.
But in the culture war, I think it is fair to say perhaps we haven't won, but we have an insurmountable advantage on this battlefield.
With an example being after the event was polled, I got on the phone with Alex Stein screaming that they got us, they got us, and Alex said, we'll never get the show back.
And then the next day, within less than 12 hours, we got the show back, all three of them.
So the conditions, for example, that they need to check to make sure that everyone is not treating Israel differently than they would treat other countries, making sure there's no anti-Semitism curriculum, which is a bad of Jewish students harassing them.
I'm going to answer your point right now before everyone is pro-Israel.
Pisco, I'm going to answer you.
I'm going to answer you.
I don't think anybody should be forced to be pro-Israel.
But if the question is like an institution is discriminating against a group based on race or ethnicity, then the government should intervene to stop that.
Could not appreciate his honesty more that what you have always supported, what we have always opposed, was the use of violence against ideas you did not like.
So when I see far leftists showing up, we have protesters outside right now.
Threatening should be arrested.
No, it's bigger than two groups.
Oh, they're now putting them in jail.
When leftists threaten to murder me and my family and they do, that's a problem.
So if there are people at a university and they're targeting any racial group or ethnic group, it is the job, in my opinion, of government to be like, hey, our law enforcement will not let you do this.
And you guys should care about it if you care about free speech.
I think that's dumb.
Yeah, it's dumb.
And I don't like the idea that I think it is fair to say that while there is a surface-level principled argument on you shouldn't run a university that targets any group of students based on their race or ethnicity, it is pretty obvious the State Department was pulling visas from people critical of Israel.
100% they were.
And they were doing it in Mahmoud Khalil.
And did you support Mahmoud Khalil?
In that conversation, you were a little waving.
Do I support him in what capacity?
And they said he should not have his green card taken away because of his statements.
Well, you understand you guys are done with free speech.
So I don't think there's a real problem with anti-Semitism people being wiped out.
It's fucking everywhere, bro.
So he would throw you into jail.
It's a bad thing to do because it's anti-white.
And what are they going to define as anti-Semitism next?
Do you oppose Israel's intervention in Gaza?
I push anti-Semitism?
I will add, to Gavin's point, I don't know that I would go as hard with it the way he's describing it, but we have talked about how my position of free speech has changed slightly in that in the 2010s, I would do this thing where I'm like, look, I don't agree with what you say, but I'll defend to the death of your right to say it.
And then I realized that I was handing weapons to the people trying to destroy me.
And so I said, revision, I will defend your right to speak so long as you agree with my right to speak.
Congress shall make no law abridging the freedom of speech.
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And so when you make the right of free speech contingent on how other people treat your right, I think you're missing the point of the First Amendment, which is saying that we don't trust the elites.
We don't trust the government shills to decide for themselves what is anti-Semitic, what's fit for consumption, and what's not, except for in narrow categories of things like, you know, illegal pornography, things like harassment, things like defamation.
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Those categories are historical exceptions, but broadly we don't trust the government.
So let's agree on the fact that Trump is winning in that regard.
But let's segue to the hard issues, the hard facts.
Border security.
Trump says zero, the reporting zero.
He even said I don't believe that number is really low, but the border biometrics does appear to be secure.
There is a possibility that this will be the first net negative migration month as an agenda item for the Trump voters and for the Trump administration.
So for example, so for example, illegal renditions without due process to Sikkot, that's illegal shit.
Closing asylum down, as was found by a district court, I think a couple weeks ago, the same thing that Biden did, by the way, with that critique, I said it was impeachable when Biden did it in contravention of the asylum statutes and the Immigration Nationality Act.
That's illegal shit that he's doing.
unidentified
And then you see it.
You see it.
If you disagree, they want to use the powers of the state against him.
Okay, he'll have to answer if you ask him that question.
No, where is her money, Matan?
Told people online that I'm a scammer.
So if this is somebody I took money from I I don't have any I don't take blame I was told I'd get a monthly in-and-out video of you trying it for the first time.
Well, I don't care.
I don't know what to tell you.
If I promised something and I didn't deliver on it, then that's on you.
I don't know why you trust somebody who keeps telling you they're a scammer.
He has a point.
That is on you.
Did he a dog?
Come on.
Are you just going to say you're like a little fat baby, just like dumping your feet?
I don't want to.
I'm not going to address the actual issue here to discuss.
There's a huge problem.
There's a guy on stage.
He's discussing that.
Why won't you say no?
I'm here to actually address the issue of the panel.
I will just say I think Trump's successes, the right successes are less because of our successes and more because of just the left's failures.
Yeah.
I mean, the left, they don't have any leadership.
They don't have any, I mean, they're just kind of lukewarm at this point.
There's not really anything going on with them.
I think the left has been, they're demotivated.
they have no drive anymore they have no i mean i think that's why they're farming out what's her name crockett jasmine crockett because it's like letting the outfielders pitch the the The game is so close now.
That's why his approval rating on every single issue is coming down because people know, especially and including inflation, people know that he's not.
unidentified
How'd you like that graph that the Democrats posted?
President Trump also said that a key component of reduction in prices would be the unlocking American energy and the decrease in cost in the energy sector would drive that.
unidentified
And he specifically stated that it would take up to a year for those results to come about.
So here we are after six months and you're complaining about promises.
So one of the things that Elon was arguing about in the Big Beautiful Bill, you can say that it's self-serving all you want, but they got rid of a lot of these subsidies to improve energy.
It's actually booming in places like Texas at all for like, you know, electric cars and those kinds of energy sectors, solar energy, that kind of stuff.
Well, actually, contextually, as that was written from the contemporaneous notes of the people who authored that amendment, it did not, they expressly said that it would not apply the way it's in the blood.
So the clause says, subject to the jurisdiction thereof.
And that clause is meant to incorporate the English common law rule of birthright citizenship.
And that rule, as understood in the Supreme Court and Wong Kim Ark, you can read the case, applies to any persons, any persons born in this country, excluding like two or three categories of historical exceptions.
Up to 1875 in the PAGE Act, that was the first restrictive immigration law.
unidentified
So it's preposterous to say that it's a preposterous suggestion that the citizenship clause, that the citizenship clause applies to illegal immigrants, you got to cut your Adderall prescription down by 50%.
It seems like if there's a Supreme Court case on this, it meant that there was actually a debate happening for a generation as to whether or not it actually applied to citizens.
Many of the illegal immigrants, like the ones that they caught on the farm at the marijuana farm, are actually indentured servants.
They pay smugglers and coyotes, and they owe them a debt and have to work on cartel farms illegally in the United States to pay off the debt for travel.
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We call that indentured servitude for three-fifths of a person.
I'm not in agreement with the debt.
But if that relationship is illegal, then by the law, they're not indentured servitudes.
When you're talking about something, you need like Getty images behind you.
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So they filmed fake shit when they discussed it.
But we didn't go to the movie.
They were in the back garden when it happened.
They pulled the TV set into the city.
But it says CBS simulation on videos.
Yeah.
But it was obviously at five.
But throughout the day, some people thought that was the landing, but it was.
And half an hour of traveling with Alex in the back seat of my car.
And this is sounding like nepotism that you got to do.
Is this whole thing rigged?
I just saw Kim, and I know Kim because I did teach her about the moon, but we had to have a three-minute talk because, listen, we're not going to just sit here and talk about Trump the whole time.
How do you feel about your good friend going to prison yesterday, and you're upset that your conservative alpha supreme leader isn't commuting a sentence?
No, no, I'm very- I could definitely respond to that.
So if what you mean by is Trump winning, semantically, you mean is he achieving what he wants to achieve, then analytically, by definition, he's doing what he's doing.
Perfect.
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That's not.
Give it up, guys.
Give it up.
Hang on.
Because it's a little debate, Broy, but that's trivially true.
If what you're saying is by definition, he's winning because he's doing what he wants and what he wants to do is what he does, then, okay, if that's what your standard for winning is, then I guess analytically you win the debate, but that's not what most people are doing.
It sounds like what you need to argue is about your definition of winning should be the one that we're following.
Well, no, I think even under the ball.
I'm appealing to MAGA supporters, I think, what I take to be their collective expectations for Trump.
And I think the fact that we're here says that he is actually achieving something close to our expectations.
Physical presence at an event means that he's achieving his aims.
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Why does that fall off the street?
No, I'm just saying that it gives some credence to it.
Not that it's not.
I don't know why.
I think the fact that the political family is.
DC, by the way, where I think 1% of the population voted for Trump.
So the fact that people are coming in in DC is unique.
Do you really think we're here to discuss whether the person in the White House is doing what they want to do and therefore they're achieving by definition what they want to do?
I think he's doing what we want him to do, and that's why we're here saying that.
You want him to release the Epstein files?
Yes.
Okay, he's spelling on that, correct?
No.
Wait, why not?
Okay, so.
Oh, it takes time.
It takes time.
Why does it take that much less than one?
Oh, everyone.
Timpoo brought something up some episode ago where he said that because he has the sort of positions that we have, we're willing to tolerate some of the things that he's not doing well.
Would you say that that's fair?
That if we're somebody out there that's actually fighting for this nation, that we'd be willing to tolerate with them.
Yeah, so I think that some amount of tolerance is expected.
And I'm perfect.
But the Epstein stuff, unlike what Gavin suggested, is central to your mythology.
In 2020, what was your position on the Epstein files?
The Epstein stuff is central to your mythology.
Were you talking about this before, too, or just since Trump got an offer?
I've talked about the Epstein stuff before, but I just want to say perfectly.
I'm literally here arguing on your terms, right?
I understand that.
But his platform is.
But his platform isn't just the Epstein files, is it?
There was a lot of black pilling on your show last week that there are a ton of amazing executive orders, but the legislation has not actually made it fulfilled.
And so legislation.
So as far as partially winning, but until the Congress actually acts, we're not going to actually see solid wins long term.
Do you support the bill they did pass, which increased the debt ceiling and did I count factor in the tax cuts that were no, no?
They just pretend to when it's politically advantageous.
unidentified
Like the budget is Trump.
And then every party just says, remove the debt ceiling, crank up the budget, give me the money, and then the other side pretends like they're upset until they do the exact same thing.
You're saying no one really cares about the deficit.
Okay, so if the point is, it's like the Democrats don't give a shit when the deficit goes up when they get their agenda through, and the Republicans don't give a shit when the deficit goes up when they get their agenda through because everyone's trying to win their agenda.
Well, I don't know.
I think the Democrats.
They're like, I will spend whatever I have to with your money to do what I want to do.
I think that he's gonna probably have consensual sex in jail and he just wants an excuse for it.
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But I don't know.
I think he's yeah, I don't know.
I don't think he's gonna get.
I think he's gonna, he might be trying to r people, though, in just the way that some gay people do when they try to convince straight people that they're also gay.
So not like physical r he's gonna be mentally r people when you when you went on his podcast and you called his uh co-host uh uh Jamal, that was one of the funniest moments of 2025.
I didn't know that guy's name, so I was speaking of, sorry to interrupt, but speaking of hypocrisy, uh, his sentence was fucking insane.
87 months, and we know that the left protects all their people and it forgives their corruption.
What do you he spent some campaign money on bow ties?
But I want him forgiven because he's technically on our side.
I don't think that's true at all I think he's I don't think he gives a shit about anything I think that he's the type of guy who would want to be on like RuPaul's drag race, but he realized he didn't have to look for it.
So he started trying to become a Republican, which is a very odd route to fame.
The list is a figurative statement of people who are associated with Epstein who are engaged in child sex trafficking, or they were bringing these teenage girls under the excuse of modeling or coming to islands and then forcing them to be...
I know this is off topic, but when we were in the waiting room, I asked this guy, and he said that he was attracted to some men with penises because he didn't consider them men.
There is zero circumstance, because Pisco was asking, if you had to choose between, you know, Hulk Hogan with lady parts or what I said was Blair White or Hulk Hogan.
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Understand why the left makes the argument from their perspective that as men they are attracted to both people with dicks and people with pussies.
I'm like, that's called bisexual.
And I don't understand why they're so ashamed in Canada.
And one of the things I've come to care quite a lot about is labor rights.
At the gas station I'm working at, they do ice cream, they do roller food, and they do, you know, all the normal snacks and stuff.
And they're constantly understaffing the stores, which is leading to worker stress, worker turnover, and they're refusing to pay people what they're worth.
And I was thinking that there should be some laws potentially in place that for however many grills you have in like, let's say, Wendy's, you have to employ this amount of people because the effect it has mentally on workers, I think is unacceptable.
I think that at this point, especially with how urban some areas have gotten, that there's too many people and that they're able to one by one exploit people and move on.
You are correct.
Get rid of the illegal immigrants to create more competition in the labor market.
No, I think I, well, I mean, you brought up the illegal immigration.
unidentified
I think there's yeah, I so as far as the illegal, like you brought up the illegal immigration, I think there's a surplus of workforce in America right now that makes it impossible for workers, especially in these lower-end jobs, often do not have unions to enforce their rights.
I mean, just one thing I do want to mention with the workforce participation, I think there's a lot of people who work really hard and put a lot of applications to get jobs.
And a lot of jobs are ignoring those people.
I feel like there's a labor shortage in this country.
Okay, so I actually had the pleasure of meeting Tim last year at Rescue the Republic.
It was my first event as press, actually.
Dolly.
Huh?
You sound like the apparently kid?
You look like the apparently kid.
Anyway, I actually have a series under a series of questions under Samuel Huntington's Clash of Civilizations and Francis Fukuyama's End of History Theories that I ask.
Military veterans for the most part.
I'm a Marine Corps veteran and I got Dolphius as a name on an engagement where the women and children did my makeup in Afghanistan.
So it's, you know, not what people generally think.
unidentified
But I'd like to ask Tim, if not the rest of the panel, my first among a series of true-false questions that, excuse me, that I generally ask military veterans who have been to war.
I mean, like, if you look at World War I, for example, probably like the German then-existing system was closer to some of the other Western allies than it was to Russian, as far as Russia.
Wait, wait, but you guys alleged that this was a pedophile ring to cover up Democratic sex crimes.
unidentified
And you didn't have the evidence then, did you?
Nobody said Democrat.
No, you did.
Don't fuck.
Come on.
with the premise of your argument wait you don't think the claims were made for example by Dan Bongino deputy director of the FBI that like there were actually hold on Biden was president for four years after Epstein was arrested.
And he wants to tell you that the budget situation is fine because on one month, when we're collecting the businesses, what was most of the bills spent most of the surplus when we had that back in Biden's administration?
No, none of you liberals are doing the math on when those liberals are coming in.
unidentified
I'm sorry, when those illegals are coming in, how much of our public tax dollars are going towards their kids' benefits, free food, free financial aid?
He's trying to convince them.
How much they're leeching and bleeding from this issue.
So the whole point is, you agree, don't you, that the tax cuts are much more than the value of the DHS spending.
Yes?
Yes or no?
So you were wrong when you said that most of that money is going to DHS spending, correct?
Okay.
Were you wrong about that?
Maybe I was wrong on most of that money going to DHS spending, but that money going to DHS spending and ICE is actually going to help us long term because we're going to save money from the money that's going to be leeched.
It's called reinvestment legal immigrants and their welfare.
unidentified
Then why is Trump saying long term?
Then why is Trump saying why is Trump proposing that there's going to be a giant hole in their deportation strategy for all these different industries?
Based on the policies that are being implemented, that's not true.
Wait, so he's not saying and meeting with these farmers, these hotel workers, he's not making these statements like, oh, we got to protect the farmers.
Do you agree?
He's making those statements?
Do you agree?
Okay, you're not.
That border crossings are at an all-time low, and that saves the money, saves the country money long-term, and it saves us the entire country leeching in the tax dollars.
So let's try to get through this so we can get everybody.
Alex, switch, switch back.
Hey, everyone.
So on if Trump is winning, at least from the Texas perspective, I can tell you that it's a huge, huge win.
Texas spent billions securing the southern border.
And we just got paid back for that.
And not only that, we're going to spend another just billions and billions on now kicking off mass deportations in Texas with the National Guard getting ready for two large detention facilities.
And we're deputizing National Guard DAG officers so they can process these people out of here.
So that being said, huge win for the border issue from Texas.
What about the flooding issue in Texas?
You think that was a huge win?
I'm talking about the border issue.
That was God.
You think that's Trump's fault?
Trump doesn't control the weather.
I think that Trump's attack on emergency response is fucking shameful.
And I think, for example, when you have FEMA...
What do you know about the flood response, by the way?
Because I was actually in Kervo and I can tell you about it.
Okay, so I think that when you have whistleblowers coming out and saying that because of these new policies for Christine Noam, that they were delayed in their calls, that when they, you know, so do you deny that?
The border issue for a Texan is the biggest win that we could possibly have gotten.
And there for a little bit, it looked like Trump wasn't gonna do mass deportations, with focusing only on dangerous criminals, but that has changed with the National Guard being involved.
Now we've got National Guard members protecting ICE officers on the streets of Texas.
So you're gonna accuse me of being bad faith and asking that question.
When he said i'm so happy that we're not focusing on violent criminals, I am happy we're deporting them for asking him wait, you think that's a win answered you already.
So I think that it's actually good policy for the government to be focusing on violent criminals.
I think that's what a bunch of like.
They're not deporting Consuela.
They're deporting fucking facial tattoos.
They are deporting Consuela.
That's one of them.
They're deporting.
Yeah, and they should.
Homan is starting at the top with the worst, and he's working his way down.
And sometimes Consuela's working on a pot farm in California.
With kids.
With kids.
Those kids aren't there by choice.
So what you're proposing, right, this policy is absolutely when you have arbitrary numbers that Stephen Miller is giving them, they're going to get the consuelas of the world.
And what you're saying is they're not going out and thank God for that.
Okay, but I think that that's why Trump's approval numbers on immigration are going down.
I think most Americans, if you ask them, if you ask them, the reason the numbers are going down is because people thought he wasn't doing mass deportations.
You know, Mexico is constantly deporting illegal aliens from Mexico, right?
You know that Jamaica is constantly deporting illegal aliens from Mexico.
It sure sounds like it.
It sounds like you guys don't understand that everyone has an idea.
Obiscal was the deporter-in-chief, right?
Oh, get ready, baby.
Get ready.
It's about to get real.
So just to be clear, like, you guys take this position that Democrats are always against deportation when you have Obama deporting.
Yeah, you didn't know that.
When you have Bill Clinton.
Democrats are stunned when you tell them how many people Obama did.
All right, give it up for this guy.
We got to get through it.
Thank you.
Give it up.
All right.
Thank you, everybody.
Give it up.
All right, Steve Feldman.
Come on down, Steve.
Is Steve Feldman here?
Hurry up, Steve.
We only got a few more to get through.
That was actually pretty quick.
Yeah, that was good.
All right, Steve, what do you got for us?
All right.
So I'm a cat guy, like my boy Alex Stein.
I just want to know, is my cat safe?
But Steven doesn't transfer over.
Seriously, though, I almost, I want to debate Serge.
Serge, why you got Pisco's gain up so high?
This clown, this whiny clown, does what communists always do.
He's filibustering.
He won't shut the fuck up.
And every point he makes is deliberately obtuse.
It's deceptive.
And it's lying.
It's twisted.
Name one.
I see a lot.
You're right.
You're acting like Wong Kim Ark wasn't a permanent domiciled resident.
So you're trying to act like that case applied to illegal aliens.
Wait, wait, when did I represent?
Will you acknowledge that I did not represent that Wong Kim Ark was an illegal immigrant?
You acknowledged I didn't lie about that, correct?
You're acting like that case applies to illegal immigrants.
Just because it had nothing to do with illegal immigration.
Just because a case has a point.
There's one point.
There you go.
So there's nothing about my statement on Wong Kim Ark that's a lie at all.
I said that the broader legal principle in that is that if people born in the country, except for the historical English common law.
He was a permanent resident.
If you don't want to hear it, there's no line in what I said.
And you can't identify one other than one of your own creation.
Wong Kim Ark does stand for the proposition that I cited it for, and that's the fact.
I do want to just interject as well when you said you won't shut up.
To be fair, we asked him to be here.
We want him to talk here.
We're going to invite him.
Fair enough.
But he's talking over everyone.
Gavin tried to take his mic away.
We all want that.
Give the crowd what they want.
Game down.
Yeah, you want to hear what you want to hear, what you already agree with.
Is that what you want?
You want no, like...
I actually think as much as there's like a visceral reaction of people not agreeing with Pisco, everybody actually wants to hear him say it and they want to hear someone talk back.
And it's fucking hard to get liberal from anything.
So it takes balls to come up here and get a limit.
Guys, get it up for Pisco.
I mean, I don't need more to come here.
I have a lot of people.
You know what?
They might have f ⁇ ed a dog, boo.
So we're not sure yet.
And I really appreciate you guys coming to like to actually hear debate.
I think that debate matters.
And I think that convincing people matters.
One of the things that Democrats really sucked at, I think, during the 2024 election, even Democrats recognize that, it's going to make the argument.
And that's why I really appreciate being invited here.
And trying to hear me out, at least, you know, to the best of your ability.
I want to point out, too, if you think he's doing a bad job of it, then let the whole world see that.
If he's filibustering, it can't care questions, and everyone's going to watch.
You can tell Trump is doing a great job because he's making all the right people big mad.
Look how triggered Pisco is.
Look how angry he is.
Why are you mad, bro?
Wait, no, I do get triggered because I love this country.
You know, you might not think I'm not.
Doubt.
I stand on business for this country.
I respect the Constitution of it, the rule of law.
And you might not agree with my points, but on that sincerity, I promise you, like, I love this country.
I want to protect it.
Okay, I challenge you to go to a dive bar in Wisconsin and enjoy yourself.
All right.
All right.
Thank you.
Looking good, Mike Mike.
Looking good.
Thank you, Steve.
All right.
One next person.
I can't even read this.
What does this say?
Will Colvert?
Colvert?
Will, is there a Will Colvert here?
Will Colnert?
Will, come on down.
He's all the way in the back, Jack.
Look at him.
We couldn't be any farther from the damn microphone.
Will Colverton.
Really quick, guys, while he's making his way down here.
If you have a mustard bottle on your table that happens to have an autograph on it, you have won yourself a skateboard.
Please proceed to the hallway and pick it up.
Shout out to Ray, who works here and autographed the mustard.
Shout out to Ray.
Check your mustard if it's signed.
You won.
Great work, Ray.
Great work, Ray.
All right, Will.
What do you got for us, bro?
Okay, is Trump winning?
Yes.
Is Trump fucking up?
I got going far enough.
He should be telling these judicial judges to fuck off.
He shouldn't be arresting these judicial judges.
He should be telling them to go bye-bye because they shouldn't be ruling for everything for the United States.
The Supreme Court has one job to rule for the United States.
And they're not going far enough either.
When they did their last bill, I mean, their last ruling, they didn't specify stuff.
They only made it broad.
So my question is to you.
Do you think Trump is winning?
And the answer is yes.
Oh, I thought you were asking me a question.
So you think the job of the Supreme Court is to just be, I don't know, sign off on everything that Trump does.
No, no, the Supreme Court should decide what the Constitution says and follow it.
But Trump has been wrong often on what the Constitution says.
Guys, shut up.
Sorry.
And not that often.
They have not been that often.
That's what I mean.
Like, you're saying that Trump should be arresting these judges.
The Supreme Court has been so deferential to Trump on so many issues.
Yeah, but the whole thing is: the Supreme Court should have ruled that the judicial that are not like in Michigan or in California do not have the right to tell New York or New Jersey or Florida what the fuck has been keeping up on the Supreme Court needs to do this okay so so in the recent case it's called the Costley decision it was very famous the Supreme Court ruled that universal Injunctions are not legal under the judicial law.
But the judicial is not listening to that.
So they are.
Trump should sell them the fucking thing.
So you're just wrong about that.
So, for an example, on the birthright citizenship issue, they are following what this is.
Let's talk about Michigan.
Let's talk about Michigan.
I was happy to go back to the court.
The Supreme Court said the judicial doesn't have the right to say anything.
Meanwhile, the judicial did rule in Michigan that they can be in sanctuary city.
They did.
So there's the Supreme Court decision, it's called Arizona versus United States.
It basically says, and this is for Florida as well, that states can't have their own immigration code.
So that has to do with the storied precedent of the Supreme Court that immigration is known as the plenary power of the federal government.
So that's a principled ruling based on hundreds of years of precedent of the plenary power doctrine.
So it's not absurd for the court to be saying, hey, Arizona, Florida, you guys can't be, you can't enforce your own immigration.
Yeah, but the problem is the judges aren't listening to them.
The judges are saying, fuck you, in Supreme Court, and they're not listening to them.
So therefore, Trump should tell the fucking judicial to fuck off unless it comes from the Supreme Court.
The district courts are listening to the Supreme Court.
That's why.
No, they're not.
They're not listening to the Supreme Court.
They are not.
I got to say, you people in D.C. know your shit.
I come from New York City where we're all retarded.
Hey, I'm from New Jersey, so don't feel bad.
There you go.
I was at a bar the other day, and these old guys go, the news was on.
They go, the news.
I don't watch the fucking news.
I watch coverage.
When you're over 50, we're talking about this right now.
Do not ride a scooter.
Do not want to ride one of these DC scooters because we can't handle them.
All right.
All right.
Now, guys, we're almost through.
Everybody, give it up.
Let me say one thing on the.
I just want to bring this up.
I have a question for Pisco as a liberal.
The district courts formed a class on the issue of birthright citizenship that includes future persons, which was granted.
Yeah.
How do you, does that, does that mean that the unborn and non-conceived have legal standing in courts now?
No.
The standing issue is.
And what is the class?
Article 3 standing is like basically if you have one litigant who has Article 3 standing, that is to say that there's a case or controversy under Article 3 of the Constitution, then basically everyone comes in.
So it's not a jurisdictional issue because there are at least some persons who would be granting standing.
So even though there's a bunch of rules about like, you know, injury and fact causation, but there's basically carve-outs for, for example, in abortion cases for the longest time, where if there's no like means to bring the case before a court, because of practicalities, there are exceptions for that.
But we're not even talking about constitutional standing.
We're just now talking about class certification and the rules for class certification are different than standing rules.
Can judges grant relief to people who don't exist?
If the kind of relief, so if the kind of relief that they seek to aim is indivisible or otherwise.
the right to life yes so the people who become the right to life count So the right to life counts for sure, but that doesn't count.
Sounds like Joey's right to life.
Real quick, Nick Sorter.
Hey, Nick Shorter.
I want Nick Sorter to come on down.
Come up here, Nick.
You just come on stage.
Nick.
So the right to life applies to persons, applies to persons.
Future persons can get class certification.
So they're separate issues, right?
Whether the term persons applies to unborn persons is a different legal issue.
No, guys, just listen.
You guys get so triggered you can't actually hear like an actual answer.
So on the one hand, the legal analysis of whether constitutionally the term persons encompasses unborn persons is a separate issue than whether or not you can certify a class that includes future persons.
I'm just going to say separate issue.
The court certified a class concludes people who are not yet born.
I don't see any reason why pro-lifers could get the same thing.
Do you agree that their ruling on the certification issue does not resolve the question of whether constitutionally they're persons?
Yes or no?
Agreed.
It means that someone can bring a class and get it certified that includes the unborn.
Correct.
All right, real quick.
Hey, let me interject.
Nick Shorter, guys, give it up.
One of the biggest independent journalists in the game.
What do you want to say at this lib card?
I have spent two hours here listening to this bullshit from over here at the other end of the table here.
So, no, I got to ask, when did you actually start giving a shit about the Epstein files here?
You're over here dogs, and now all of a sudden you care about the Epstein list.
What was the line?
You had 16 years of Democrat presidents to come out and say, oh, yeah, we want the Epstein files, and you're doing it now.
What changed, dude?
What changed?
Yeah, so this is really like super not convincing.
You're trying to argue that I'm a hypocrite.
I've always cared about the Epstein issue.
You are.
I always have.
And I mean, there's videos of me talking about it.
There's videos of me.
Okay, you can take it.
We only got a limited amount of time.
Do you want to answer the question?
No, no, no.
No, no, what I'm saying is I have cared about the Epstein issue.
Oh, okay.
You guys.
Have you said it publicly?
Yeah.
There's videos of me talking about it.
Okay, when?
You called for the Epstein list to be released.
I don't know what do you mean by the term Epstein list.
What do you mean by the term Epstein list?
What do you mean by the term Epstein list?
What do you mean by list?
What do you mean by the term Epstein list?
I want children.
And all of a sudden, you're going to pretend that you're going to be talking about when you guys are going out there and getting naked in front of children.
What do you mean by the term Epstein list?
I just told you.
But I want you to know who was on that fucking island.
Children.
That's what I want to do.
And so it's your position.
It's your position that Democrats don't care about that.
Okay, but who are the people who are covering it up right now?
Who are the people covering it up right now?
Who are the people covering it up?
Okay, well, how many times are you going to get to the point?
Who are the people covering up?
Marsha Blackburn.
You've had Marsha Blackburn Senator Donald Trump come voting against him.
Shut the fuck up.
Republicans.
You're asking me a question.
You don't want to let me answer because you're trying to filibuster here.
You've had Marsha Blackburn for years trying to get to the bottom of who was on the Epstein list and Democrats blocked it every single time.
You didn't say a goddamn thing the entire time.
Not one time.
Did you call for the Epstein list to be real?
I don't know what I'm talking about, Marsha Blackburn.
I don't know what you're talking about, but right now.
That's his point.
That's my police point.
Wait, hang on, so I don't know the specific vote you're referencing that Democrats didn't sign on.
I haven't seen it.
I can't comment on it, but I can comment right now.
And you can too.
You can too.
The Republicans right now, Mike Johnson just closed fucking the House of Representatives to prevent them from getting access to the files.
Did you look at the calendar?
What do you think of that?
Did you look at the calendar?
What do you think of that?
What do you think of that?
Did you see when the House of Representatives?
Or did you say a couple weeks?
It's not.
It was always supposed to be.
It's been that way for a year.
They were supposed to recess on Thursday.
They do it every single time.
I want to interject because.
Do you agree with him closing?
Hold on, hold on.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
I agree with Mike Johnson.
Answer the question.
Okay, I'm going to answer this because I actually spoke with Rokana and Thomas Massey and Massey twice.
And Massey said the August recess is a tradition based on the heat in D.C.
That it wasn't about the Epstein vote, but they're getting as it is.
No, he's not.
He didn't say that.
This is not the first time.
First time on Facebook you've been bullshitting.
You said that Trump was calling for a pardon for Gelaine Maxwell.
He's a floating race.
That's a fucking lie.
He's floating it.
He never said that.
Why is he saying I have the power to do it?
He never said he was going to pardon Gelane Maxwell.
He never even hinted at it.
You're making shit up.
You're just hoping that everybody here doesn't understand that he didn't do it.
Is he floating it?
Huh?
Is he floating it?
Is he floating it?
No, not a single time.
Not one time.
When did he do it?
Tell me when he did it.
I have the complete power if I want to.
Tell me when he did it.
So when he was talking to a reporter and the reporter asked, will you pardon Maxwell?
He's like, I have the power to do it.
That's him floating it.
Come on.
Wait, wait, so.
That's a weird fucking answer.
Say, isn't that a weird answer?
Isn't that a weird answer?
No, no, no.
So the president of the United States says, oh, I have the power to do it, but I'm not doing it.
So that's floating it?
That's exactly what he said.
I have the power to do it.
But I'm not doing it.
Here's the question.
Shouldn't he say, of course, I would never pardon Maxwell, right?
Did you want to say that?
No, no, no.
I think it's even better to say, oh, I have the power to do it, but I'm not doing it.
That's exactly what he's saying.
Oh, let's voting it.
He didn't know.
That's exactly.
Does he or does he not have the power to do it?
And has he done it?
He has the official body.
But he didn't say, I would never do it.
He said, okay.
I haven't thought about it.
So let's floating.
Let's float it.
Let's floating it.
Come on.
This is the Democrat.
This is the way that they operate here.
Do you agree with Mike Johnson closing Congress, closing the House, what they're doing because of this?
Do you agree with that?
Okay, but that's not what's going on.
You're making that up again.
That's another Democrat talking point.
You're saying that they recessed because of the Epstein files.
That is absolutely not true.
They were going to recess anyway.
Mike Johnson is refusing to put this up for a vote.
He's refusing.
No, he didn't.
It'll be up for a vote in September.
What do you mean?
No, in the did he say that it wasn't coming up for a vote?
No.
They reconvened in September.
Why aren't you?
Why are we not mad?
No, I'm mad at the people like you that are letting people get naked in the streets in front of children on these pride parades and being like, oh, yeah, no, no.
Now we care about the Epstein film.
You're happy with how Trump is.
That's bullshit.
You're happy with how Trump is handling it.
Okay.
Are you happy with that?
No, no, I'm not.
Absolutely not.
No, no, no.
I think Pam Bonnie.
Bonnie should be fucking sacked.
I do.
I do.
Absolutely.
Because why?
Because why is he not firing Pam Bondi?
Because he's fucking stupid?
I don't know.
Call him stupid.
He's not fired by Mike Brown.
I think Trump likes hiring a bunch of attractive women.
Wait, have you answered my question?
Hold on, John.
Hold on, no, no.
I mean, you can keep talking all you want to.
You can keep talking all you want.
For whatever reason, his mic is way loud in the back room for whatever reason.
No, no, no.
You haven't answered that.
I got up here and you've been running in circles for five minutes now.
When did you start calling for the Epstein files to be released?
When?
Yeah, so when you said it.
When?
Did you do it at all under Joe Biden?
Yes.
Did you ever hit Joe Biden and say, yes, you need to release the Epstein files right now?
So I talked about Epstein before.
What specific people did?
I mentioned him in passing.
You will do anything.
You will do anything to shove responsibility now onto me.
Like, this is my fault.
I'm trying to figure out what your motive is.
I mean, the guy that's dogs all of a sudden cares about Jeffrey Epstein.
Listen to this.
You said that.
You could have just said that.
You said that.
Right.
He could have said no.
I could have said.
Can I ask you a question?
Please, let me ask a question.
So you said that Trump now had Trump and said that Trump should fire Pam Bondi.
Why hasn't he?
Is he stupid?
Okay, what does this have to do with the question that I have?
Is he stupid?
Is he stupid?
He's not forgiving.
Why is he doing that?
You know how difficult it is to re-nominate and have reconfirmed an attorney general?
I feel like if there's something that can be worked out to maybe get her back on track, that's the way you should handle it.
You said she should be fired.
Yeah, I would love to see her.
I didn't want to see her there in the first place.
This is the difference.
This is the difference.
We Republicans are independent thinkers a lot of the time.
You guys have to go along.
You have to walk a line or else you're excommunicating.
You're afraid of the family.
That's it.
The first nomination.
So are you going to want to do that?
Are you going to answer my question?
Why all of a sudden do you care about the Epstein files?
I'm saying that's not true.
I've always cared about Epstein.
You've always cared about the Epstein, but you can't name a single thing you've said.
You can't criticize Joe Biden.
You can't do it.
I don't understand.
It's like, this is not a difficult question.
I'm not going to sit here as I sit here.
I don't have perfect recall of mine.
You don't have perfect recall of anything.
I mean, you've had a hypocrite and like a deadbeat in the White House for four years before this.
They make the subject now not about Trump.
Let's save Trump and let's go after the random guy we brought up here to yell.
Let's go back to the dog question.
So why don't we actually would it have been a better question?
Hey, hey, hold on.
Why don't we actually are we going to get an answer to that question about you dogs before we leave here today?
I thought this was a joke and now all of a sudden I'm like, okay, you won't say no.
Yes or no?
Did you the dog?
Hold on, hold on.
I mean, what am I missing?
How did I get wrong?
Wait, wait, wait.
This is a level of discourse.
This is how scrambling they are.
They're absolutely fanetic.
I'm not scrambling.
Defend their daddy.
Some narrative, indefensible, by the way.
Okay, guys.
Pam Bonnie should be fired.
Okay.
There's no explanation for why he hasn't done it already.
I think the answer to the question that was posed is an easy yes for a variety of reasons.
So let's just run down real quick.
He could have given an easy no.
Why would he say that?
He could have.
I'm talking about is Trump winning.
Wait, wait, hold on.
I wanted to ask you, would it have been a better response from Trump?
I don't really care about that right now.
Hold on.
If you're just out there going like this, guys, guys, that's what about Trump.
Hey, we're going to have a hard time.
Yes, guys, that has been our episode.
Hey, Pisco, let's just wrap this thing up.
Thank you guys so much for being here.
That has been the second ever Culture War Live.
We appreciate all the people that came up here.
Now, we got to get out of here, but before we go, starting with Nick, everybody introduce yourself or tell him how quick.
We got five minutes.
Yeah, absolutely.
I'm Nick Sorter.
I'm an independent journalist that yells and screams about the stipend of liberal bullshit that this guy shills over here.
Yeah, so go ahead.
Next.
I'm running a crypto thing right now.
It's going to go well.
I promise you guys, nothing funny about it.
You can find it on my Twitter.
I'll be posting about it.
And that's about it.
Well, you guys know me.
I'm Primetime99, Pimp Online.
I love you guys.
Thank you to Matan, Nick, Tim, Gavin, and Pisco.
Thank you for coming in the lines, Den.
Thank you guys.
I'll go last.
I want to say Trump is winning, but he's not winning enough.
Before Biden, we had 30 million illegals.
He let in 12 million.
He's got about 1,200 days left.
If he did 10,000 a day, he'd get rid of the 12 million, and we're still stuck with the 30 million.
So instead of defending ourselves and arguing with guys like this, we should say triple, quadruple down, Trump.
We need everyone out of here who's here illegally.
The fact this guy is pissed off means we're winning.
We got two minutes.
Yeah, no, Peaceco Lady.
Thank you guys for having me.
Trump is a disaster.
Losing on the economy, losing on prices, going over, you know, constitutional rights like they're nothing.
Sucks on immigration.
Absolutely corrupt.
$400 million Qatari points.
Suck on this immigration.
Being a fucking shill.
Being a shill for Israel.
Being a shill for Bibi Netanyahu, bombing Iran when that's what his daddy told him to do, Bibi Nanyahu.
And so yeah, it's a complete disaster.
And now you're seeing people give cover.
And if he actually ends up pardoning Maxwell, they'll defend it too, because they'll defend anything this guy does.
That's a long Twitter handle.
Where can they find you?
Peace go Lydia on Twitter and Peace Goes Hour on YouTube.
Ladies and gentlemen, it's been awesome to have our second live in-person culture war event.
I'm, of course, Tim Poole.
I appreciate all of you coming down.
I think the general conclusion is that Trump is winning, but maybe not enough.
But I do want to thank all of you for coming.
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Next week, police, Michael Malice, Angry Cops.
And this one's going to be a lot of fun.
And then after that, we have the great feminism debate.
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