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May 28, 2025 - The Culture War - Tim Pool
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UFO CAPTURED, Chilling WARNING Issued Of BUGHA Sphere ft. Ashton Forbes

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tim pool
Take a look at this from the Daily Mail.
Scientist delivers ominous message to humanity after UFO covered in strange writing is found.
I saw this, and it's this like metal sphere.
I wonder if I can play the video.
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Okay, it's all Spanish.
tim pool
He's put on a series of tests on what's called the Bugha sphere, which fell to Earth after receiving a 10,000 volt charge.
The images obtained yielded surprising results.
Inside, you can see a dense layer surrounding the white outline.
I don't know that this is real.
Maybe it's fake.
This is an image.
It's got strange symbols on it.
I don't know why it needs to have those strange symbols on it.
Interestingly, there's been a viral video going on for some time that many claim is debunked, showing orbs circling an airplane.
Now we have this story from Colombia of a so-called UFO in the town of Buga, zigzagging through the sky.
They say it was struck by powerful energy, fell down, and this is what we got.
Interesting.
Scientists have been analyzing it, and it's got three layers of metal-like material in 18 microspheres surrounding a central nucleus they are calling a chip.
Now, I'm not sure if aliens exist.
We had Eric Burleson, the rep, on several times.
A couple times in the past couple of weeks as he discussed his hearings on UFOs.
I'm a skeptic.
Aliens could be hiding from us, perhaps.
I mean, do geese understand what we are?
They can see us.
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I don't know.
tim pool
Do ants?
Maybe they're aliens that have the technology that we can't see them.
Maybe they can move interdimensionally.
Who knows?
I'll tell you what I think is more likely.
In this article from some time ago, And that's where things got interesting.
Let me play this clip.
michael kratsios
The well-intentioned regulatory regime of the 1970s became an ever-tightening ratchet, first hampering America's ability to become a net energy exporter and then making it harder and harder to build.
We seem to have lost focus and vision, to have lowered our sights and let systems and structures and bureaucracies muddle us along.
But we are capable of so much more.
Our technologies permit us to manipulate time and space.
They leave distance annihilated, cause things to grow and improve productivity.
tim pool
Very, very interesting.
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So, let's dive into this.
tim pool
I'm going to bring in our guest now, Ashton Forbes, who's generated a lot of attention talking about these issues.
I believe we have this loading up now.
Usually takes a quick second, but bear with me.
And Ashton, can you hear me?
ashton forbes
Yeah, how's it going, Tim?
tim pool
How's it going?
ashton forbes
Oh, it's going, man.
It's going.
tim pool
Four orbs I see floating behind you on that wall.
So have you seen this story coming out of Colombia of the Boogha sphere?
ashton forbes
Yeah, I've seen it.
A lot of people ask me about it.
They ask me, is that the thing inside of those orbs spinning around the plane?
And I tell people, I don't think so, but I don't really know because I can't tell what's inside the orbs.
tim pool
Right.
So this is interesting because you've been tracking, you've had this video that you've been analyzing for some time.
You've been putting out information that you believe this is, the video that we're getting is some kind of government's, what is it, infrared technology for video or something?
Do you want to explain that?
ashton forbes
Yeah, so I've been exposing the MH370 videos.
I don't know if you can share what I show here.
I'll show the screen.
These MH370 videos, the biggest revelation that has come along recently is that this is Gorgon Stare.
Air Force's Gorgon Stare technology in one of these videos that people think is fake.
They think it's, I don't know, whatever, Unreal Engine, Armor 3, Call of Duty, or whatever.
It's not any of those things.
Those MH370 videos are real leaked military footage.
The big revelation was finding out is Gorgon Stare wide area motion imagery.
That's why we see the video move around.
And that's why we're seeing a low frame rate.
That's why we see the coordinates in the bottom left update in a higher frame rate than what we see the actual background move around in.
And I had multiple sources confirm to me that the video is actually Gorgon Stare.
So anyone that doesn't think so, I mean, it's simple to confirm it.
All you have to do is just talk to somebody in the Air Force and they can confirm that that's legitimate.
tim pool
So this is research you've had going back to MH370.
Were you doing this research before those videos came out?
ashton forbes
No, that was just something that when I saw those videos, saw that they seemed to be authentic.
Dug into it, researched it.
That's when you invited me back on the show back in, I think it was January of 2024.
And the reason why I wanted to talk to you is that you had said that you had a source that told you that we have faster than light communication.
tim pool
Yep.
ashton forbes
And if those videos were real, which now I know for sure they are, then I knew that must be real as well.
And that's the exact same science that is on display in those videos.
Quantum tunneling, faster than light communication, we're seeing that just scaled up.
tim pool
So, for those that are not familiar, just to make sure we give you guys proper context, MH370, of course, that was the Malaysian airliner, went missing?
ashton forbes
Yep.
So, MH370, Malaysian airliner goes, disappears March 8th, 2014.
Never seen again.
We get a few pieces of debris wash up in Africa.
Everybody admits there must be some cover-up going on.
Planes can't just disappear.
Planes should leave a massive debris field if it crashes into the ocean.
And it's taken me two years to figure out what really happened.
And now I think I'm fairly confident that what it was was not just a simple covert operation.
It was a counter-espionage operation.
The person responsible, the people responsible for MH370 is China.
China was trying to steal our technology, and the CIA and the United States said, that's not going to happen.
And you say, well, that's kind of crazy.
They would target a civilian airliner for something like that.
Well, welcome to the price that it takes to keep us safe in America.
tim pool
But you believe that – so there's this video.
There's two videos.
And they show orbs circling – it's four orbs circling around the plane?
ashton forbes
So it's actually three orbs circling around the plane.
The fourth orb, if you remember, Dave Rossi was the person I brought with me on your show in January of 2024.
He's a defense contractor.
He's the one that came up with the idea, in theory, that there's a fourth orb that determines the entanglement.
They entangle the three orbs to the fourth orb's location, and that's how it determines the vector of where it's actually going to go.
tim pool
Interesting.
ashton forbes
And I actually found out what the orbs are, too, in the last two years.
I couldn't believe I would find it, but I'm just going to read off this paper and what it's called.
This is by Frank Mead, who is Air Force Research Labs, 2006.
Propulsion and power generation capabilities of a future dense plasma-focused fusion system for future military aerospace applications.
And it says what this can be used for.
Is a dense plasma fusion and propulsion technology with an advanced lifting body airframe utilizing air-breathing magnetohydrodynamics, which means it just zaps the air and uses it as energy, to produce a single stage-to-orbit vehicle.
So a vehicle that can just go from the ground into orbit.
tim pool
Where was this published?
What is this document?
ashton forbes
And the papers that people are going to want to read are the Air Force Research Lab papers from the early 2000s.
That's when they figured out between the 90s and 2000s, they figured out that plasma can become stabilized under the right conditions.
And they looked at the Russian hypersonic, the Ajax and the scramjet designs, and they figured out something called perfect plasma.
Listen to the efficiency rate of this engine from this scientific paper.
The Q factor was varied from 3 to 6. That's the overunity factor.
tim pool
What does that mean?
ashton forbes
That's producing 3 to 6 times excess energy.
So from a fusion reaction that we've been trying to produce publicly, to get a Q factor of 3 that's sustained, we'd basically have free energy on this planet.
So a Q factor of 3 to 6?
In one of these orbs they're generating, it says resulting in gigawatts of excess power.
Thruster efficiency was varied from 90% to 100%.
What they've figured out is perfect propulsion.
So you see these orbs, and what the orb really is, is something where it's got like a cavity that sucks in the air.
So while it's moving around, it's actually producing energy just from moving around in the sky.
And the efficiency of the engine itself is near perfect efficiency.
So the end result of this is that you have a ball of electricity that's producing essentially free energy by just moving around in this gas.
tim pool
But you say essentially it's actually consuming matter and just converting the matter at a very efficient rate.
ashton forbes
It's a very clever use of normal physics.
Exactly.
tim pool
Which is most technology.
ashton forbes
And that's what I think all this UFO stuff is going to boil down to.
tim pool
I was going to say, that's just most technology.
We're finding better ways to efficiently convert energy, or we're consistently trying to do so.
I'm skeptical.
You know, what I will say is the weird thing to me, and I want to preface this one more time.
The reason I thought it was interesting to talk to you is we have this story of the Bugha sphere, and maybe completely unrelated, but here you have this story where in Colombia they see this giant silver sphere floating in the sky.
They knock it down, and when they scan through it, it just looks like dense metal with weird microspheres inside of it.
Maybe it's a hoax.
I don't know.
There was a story where they claimed to have found alien mummies or something.
It could all be fake.
I have no idea.
But I will say this, and this is not to get to the validity of I honestly don't know.
I'm skeptical.
But I've been getting – as soon as you mentioned, like we're going to interview you again about this stuff because there is one more story.
This is the science administrator for the Trump administration saying that we have the technology to manipulate time and space, which I'll talk to you in a second.
So these stories pop up, and I'm like, all right, let's talk to Ashton about what he's been working on.
I started getting hit – inundated by a bunch of people.
Angry, furious.
We've had flat earthers.
We did a show on the culture war where we had a flat earther, a geocentrist, and a standard physicist debate these issues.
And they asked us to pull up papers and pull up these videos.
Nobody messaged me.
Nobody tweeted at me.
Nobody attacked me.
But when you posted that we were going to talk about this, That just talks about Sasquatch and UFOs and ghosts.
Why is this one issue so heated that I have to, have to believe the VFX guys claim it's debunked?
I'm like, sure, I don't care.
It's fun to talk about.
But I got a wave of hate and attacks for even entertaining this.
And, you know, my view is, you know, they've got a video of an orb flying over Columbia.
We had Rep.
Eric Burleson, a congressman.
Recently had hearings on UAPs where he was told by some aerospace physicist engineer that there are four species of aliens.
Again, I'm not saying I believe any of it, but when members of Congress are having these conversations, I'm like, hey, let's talk about this space and what people think may be happening.
The backlash I found pretty interesting.
ashton forbes
Oh, man.
Well, so I just got to tell you, I intentionally leaked that because I wanted you to see that.
I want the world to see what people are trying to do to me behind the scenes.
Because like you said, people don't do this for Bigfoot or Flat Earth or whatever else.
I'm out here just trying to tell people we've got teleportation is real and trying to explain it.
I'm trying to solve a cold case of a missing airplane.
And people are acting like I'm, you know, the worst thing on the earth.
Like, that should really tell people something.
I had Ross Colhart, News Nation anchor, or, you know, a journalist, quote-unquote, email Scott Roeder, the guy that did that story about the Las Vegas aliens or whatever it was, the tall aliens, emailed him because the guy put a post up on social media that was supportive of me.
Emails him and says that he makes up stories about how my followers are sending him death threats and I'm the worst person in the world.
That's an anchor on News Nation doing that.
tim pool
No way.
ashton forbes
They were trying to say I'm a grifter.
I'm not selling anything.
They tried to say I'm crazy.
I learned quantum mechanics.
They tried to say I'm an alcoholic.
It's crazy.
I have bad people in my family that suffer with that.
tim pool
Well, they're not very good at smearing you, I guess.
You know, that is the point.
Of all of the subjects, this one became a weird hot-button issue.
And I've never cared all that much about the MH370 story.
I remember it was on CNN 24-7.
They wouldn't shut up about it.
It's like their biggest story.
And now there are people.
I randomly got people posting super chats on IRL saying, you're a scumbag, Tim, pushing fake videos to trick stupid people.
And I was like, what?
And I'm like, we've talked about way crazier stuff.
We talk about ghosts and demons and stuff.
Why is this one?
But let's get back into it.
I did find that interesting, but we had that story, I think it was a month or two ago, where that science administrator for the Trump admin said, our technology allows us to manipulate time and space.
And the first thing I thought, you know, when talking to my friends and other workers, my first question was, you know, I know the answer for me, but has anyone ever referred to any technology in common use as manipulating time and space?
No.
So is there a turn of phrase where it's like, my car goes so fast, it effectively allows me to manipulate time?
No.
There is no common parlance to claim that planes manipulate time and space as if we're exaggerating because we can fly to London in a few hours.
It sounds like what he was saying was that our trains are slow, our cars are slow, our planes are slow, and they shouldn't be because our technology has reached the level of manipulating time and space.
Now, when you look at the past 30 years of quantum mechanics, at the quantum scale, we've had numerous experiments showing the ability to manipulate time and space.
There was one study where they said they – and you probably know this better than me.
They sent a photon forward and backward in time at the same time, things like that.
And they always preface it with, but this is just the quantum level.
We don't know how to scale it up.
But it sounds like – now I'm asking for your take on this.
The technology actually goes a bit further than what we know, and that would make sense.
The government keeps this technology a secret.
ashton forbes
Yeah, absolutely.
And so if we had a unification theory of quantum and general relativity, the small and the very large, then we could scale it up.
So if they were hiding a unification theory, if they knew what the answer was to the questions in physics that we struggle with, dark matter, dark energy, and how it all comes together, then they could scale it up.
And I would argue they have figured that out.
I would argue they've had that figured out for many decades.
And the reason why they've hidden it is that it leads to fusion and it leads to free energy and other things that our society is not prepared for.
Now you mentioned that Eric Burleson talked to Eric W. Davis, that science guy talking about the aliens.
Fun fact about Eric W. Davis.
He's the right-hand man of Hal Pudov, who I've identified as the world's leading expert on zero-point energy.
He's a government spook.
He might be MJ number one, if you believe in the MJ-12 stuff.
tim pool
We got a lot of jargon real quick.
So first, what is zero-point energy?
ashton forbes
So zero-point energy, you can think of it as what makes up space-time itself if you were to take out all the energy.
Take out all the light, take out all the heat, and what's left.
What we refer to as space-time, what gives our physical reality structure.
That space-time is the scaffolding, or that zero-point energy is the scaffolding holding up that space-time.
That's why distance is an illusion.
Because if you can manipulate the zero-point energy, you can manipulate space and time.
That's what they've figured out.
And so how do you manipulate it?
Well, we know.
The Casimir effect shows us.
That's why you hear all these people on Joe Rogan and everything.
I always talk about Casimir effect.
Just put two plates together, and they come together.
tim pool
In a vacuum, yeah.
Why?
ashton forbes
Because they're pushing out certain wavelengths.
Because think about the zero-point energy as like the white noise, but it's just a bunch of waves everywhere.
So if you push out certain waves, you manipulate that zero-point energy.
tim pool
So in the film The Incredibles, for those who remember, the bad guy syndrome used zero-point energy to be able to move any object by pointing at it.
ashton forbes
And so think of it like using noise cancellation, like with your headphones.
If you were to cancel out all that noise, then you can theoretically push out.
Space and time, or manipulate space and time.
So what are the orbs doing in the MH370 videos?
They are jamming themselves together to create a very powerful EMP, a non-thermal radiative pulse.
And what that does is push away all the zero-point energy.
Salvatore Pais, U.S. Navy engineer, his patents basically show this.
And when you do that, for a brief moment, that plane blips out of existence.
It blips out of existence, and it's in the true nothingness, the true nothingness.
And so what this would mean is that there really is this extra dimension, but it's not like the extra bizarro dimension.
It's just a shortcut between any two points of space and time, an Einstein-Rosen bridge.
tim pool
Like an Einstein-Rosen bridge, you said?
ashton forbes
Yes, like an Einstein-Rosen bridge.
And then there's this idea of ER equals EPR.
Einstein-Rosen bridge, a wormhole, is fundamentally equivalent to Einstein-Poldosky-Rosen, which is quantum entanglement.
So if you can do...
Use quantum sensing to look for these wave patterns in this medium.
Then you can detect, you can create a Morse code situation.
You can create a situation where the plane disappears out of time and then reappears somewhere else.
tim pool
So you mentioned earlier that I had talked about faster than light communications.
And I've had people tweet at me that's wrong and I'm crazy and Superchan stuff.
The general idea is quantum entanglement, and you might be able to explain this better than me, but the idea is two, I think, two electrons are entangled.
ashton forbes
So you just entangled two particles, and here's what they figured out.
There's a DIRD, Defense Intelligence Reference Documents.
These were the most popular classified documents in the 2010s.
There's like 38 of them.
Eric W. Davis, the guy that was sitting next to Eric Burleson, he wrote six of them.
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Wow.
ashton forbes
One of them is quantum communication systems.
In fact, they figured out a way where they can get around the retro causality issue.
They basically put in a speed limit.
Into the quantum entanglement.
And what this would allow you to do, Tim, is you could control a rover on Mars in real time.
tim pool
Yep.
ashton forbes
Think about that.
You could control a rover on Mars in real time.
tim pool
But beyond that, you could send a video in real time.
So right now, what's the light delay?
Like 20 minutes to Mars or something like that?
ashton forbes
Yeah, I thought it was 8 or something.
But yes, whatever the delay is, you could get away with that.
There would be no lag.
If you'd like to play video games, we could create a quantum network where there's no lag at all.
Where all the actions are seemingly happening in real time.
tim pool
So what was explained to me is, real quick, for people who probably don't understand this stuff, entangled particles, they do something to the particles.
There's two particles that, I'll give you the real simple layman term.
If you charge one or interact with one, the other reacts the same way.
And so the general idea is...
You are poking one and the other one's moving as if being poked, despite no one being in the room.
So then they realized, hey, we can send binary through an entangled particle in one place and have it instantaneously transmit that binary.
It's almost like a sub-quantum or a quantum transmission line.
It was explained to me that we actively are building these systems.
It doesn't really matter that much on Earth because you can almost nearly instantaneously communicate as it is in terms of military importance.
But as we're getting into space travel, we're going to need this technology, especially if we start colonizing Mars.
So we're not going to be happy with a 20-minute lag time between communications.
We're going to want real-time communication.
Entanglement communication, FTL communication is that key.
ashton forbes
Yep.
And Hal Pudoff was just on Joe Rogan.
And the best part of that interview was when he was talking about his quantum communication patent from the 90s.
And I'm guaranteed that he built one of those for the government in the 90s in the version that he's got publicly.
The reason why he couldn't keep doing it is that our public material manufacturing is One more thing I want to say, too.
Eric W. Davis, his right-hand man, he's the world's leading expert on wormholes.
I think he's the one that figured out the teleportation for the Air Force.
And then the last thing is, Sonny White, he was also just on Joe Rogan.
Go look at the comments.
They're all saying that Joe Rogan needs to talk to me because I've been basically talking about Hal Putoff and Sonny White.
Sonny White showed Joe Rogan a free energy microchip.
He said, here you go.
Hold this prototype in your hand.
And said, you just put this in your phone, and then your phone would never, ever run out of battery.
tim pool
And I don't know if people know this.
ashton forbes
One last thing.
Sonny White was the guy that tested the EM drive.
Remember that Impossible drive?
tim pool
Yeah, yeah.
ashton forbes
He's the one that tested it for NASA and found anomalous thrust.
They had to, like, backtrack on his own.
tim pool
I just want to clarify when you say free energy.
It's figurative free energy.
Yes.
ashton forbes
It's just a good word, but what it means is extracting this quantum energy of space-time.
If space-time has this structure and we can extract that energy, that's essentially free energy.
Or like the plasma balls, if they can just pull energy from air and just get energy from them moving through air, that's also essentially free energy.
tim pool
The energy is there.
So I don't know if this chip – is this the piezoelectricity?
ashton forbes
No, it's using the Casimir effect.
So what it does is just like the plates, but it does it on a very, very tiny scales.
So on these very small microchip scales, the smaller and closer together they get, the more powerful the Casimir effect becomes.
So the smaller you get it, the more powerful it is, the more energy you can extract from that.
So they basically create a little motor.
tim pool
For people who don't know, the Casimir Effect is a long, this is not This is you go to any college freshman laboratory and they can show you this.
Two plates in a vacuum and they begin to pull towards each other because there's, I think, electrons passing between them like they're coming into and out of existence or something like that.
ashton forbes
There's more waves on the outside than on the inside.
Think of it like that.
If there's more on the outside, on the inside, then it'll push together.
So we create this pressure.
And what it means is that unification has been figured out.
What is the unifier?
Electricity.
Tesla was right.
Electricity is the thing that unifies the very small and the very large.
There is no dark matter.
There is no dark energy.
The zero-point energy accounts for these things.
We're in a medium of energy.
The answer to the three-body problem, like, why doesn't the Earth get pulled out of its orbit by Jupiter?
Because it's outside of us?
Because we're in a medium.
It's not an empty space.
We're in a sticky substance that we're sitting inside moving around all the time.
tim pool
Man.
Well, I think the reality Who knows?
We need a population that builds things from the smallest components, sourcing raw materials.
If the U.S. government, technology companies, or any foreign government came out right now and said, here's how we can extract energy from the atmosphere and convert it with near-perfect efficiency.
We don't need oil anymore.
The economy just implodes.
I hear a lot of people say, oh, we have access to this, to anti-gravity, or we have functional free energy.
And they've been saying this for years online in these conspiracy videos, but the government won't let us have it because the oil companies want control.
And I don't think it's that simple.
I think it's, if we're going to build rocket ships, if we're going to source the components for these machines and technologies, somebody has to mine the cobalt.
And so the concern is, So likely military component, military applications that are above top secret are utilizing these technologies.
And conventionally what we see on TV and think we use is...
The real capabilities are probably behind the scenes, and people would be shocked at the exponential technological advancement that the military's got.
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Yep.
ashton forbes
So, what I'll say is, real quick, you ask people, what's the energy source of these UFOs?
There's no SpaceX rockets with fuel tanks on them.
They're using an external energy source, clearly.
That's what people should be pressing everybody in the UFO community on.
And then Sierra Nevada Corporation is the one that produced Gorgon Stare.
So you can pretty much just say whatever you want about them because apparently they're recording secret illegal operations and sending them to the Joint Intelligence Tactical Network.
And then the last thing is you brought up the best point.
It's really not as simple as like it's just they're hiding it because they're greedy.
It's a lot more than just that.
It will literally change our entire civilization forever.
We're talking about not just free energy but transmutation as well, which means Star Trek replicators are in our future for everyone.
And it's dangerous.
Like, imagine if terrorists or ISIS had this type of technology.
The scary part about the technology is it's not hard to create.
It's actually relatively simple.
So when this does get exposed, we're going to get whiplash from how quickly our entire civilization changes.
tim pool
I think the issue largely is...
I'm more skeptical.
I don't know that they can do that.
But let's just say the technology for replication exists.
And the way it works in sci-fi is the Star Trek, for instance.
The ship is absorbing free energies in space.
Electrons get dragged in.
Those particles are forced and reshaped through a replicator into a food item or a glass or whatever.
The issue is you need to build those replicators.
You need certain components.
You need certain raw materials that can't necessarily be replicated.
So someone's got to mine the cobalt.
If you came out and said everyone's got free food forever, then people are going to say, then I don't want to work.
And they'll go lay on the grass and they'll stare at the sky.
So they intentionally keep these things scaled in such a way that the work that needs to be done will always be getting done.
And then maybe at some point, Now, I'll give you the final thoughts, but my final thoughts, I don't think the technology necessarily exists today, but I do think there is technology that would blow our minds that does exist, and we have no idea what it is.
ashton forbes
Yeah, no, it definitely exists.
They've got a coherent matter wave beam.
You're going to want to look that one up.
There's a good clip on my Twitter about it.
That's exactly what they can do to produce nanoscale atomic level manufacturing, which is what would be needed for a replicator.
It also is a thousand or a million to a billion times more powerful than a laser.
It's essentially like taking matter.
And combining it down to a single point, just like you would with a laser beam.
And quantum mechanics shows that that's actually possible.
The last thing I want to say is that you're right about them dripping out the stuff to us.
That's what they're allowed to do to us with fusion.
They're going to show us fusion.
They're going to say, we broke fusion.
It's going to be this really inefficient version that's slightly more efficient than probably coal and oil and stuff like that.
They're going to make it into a whole political thing, like they've done with solar and wind.
And then the last thing is, Elon Musk has no idea about this.
I know people are going, he knows he's covering up no he's And I can't wait to see when he ends up finding out that the reason why the defense contractors aren't competing is because it's a national security issue.
That's the reason why they're not destroying him and SpaceX.
It's going to be the biggest red pill ever.
tim pool
Or could it be that they're beyond this technology and so they don't care?
ashton forbes
Exactly.
That's the thing.
Why are we not coming back to the moon?
I would take a different approach from Candace Owens, although I highly respect her.
I would say we haven't come back to the moon because it's a legal liability to send a rocket up to the moon that has like a low percent chance of, you know, some chance of something horrible happening when we just have magical orbs that can teleport stuff.
tim pool
Yeah, I don't know.
I mean, we've got this Bukha sphere and it's always easy to dismiss these things as, here's what I'll say.
The Bukha sphere is fascinating.
And we say, yeah, but maybe it's a hoax.
The problem is any time we were to make a tremendous discovery, we can't just assume there are always hoaxes.
I think it's fair to say trust but verify or in this instance, I remain skeptical but open to the possibilities.
If we were to actually see an anti-grav device or a teleportation device and everyone just says it's a hoax, okay, well, maybe it's not, right?
We have to be open to the possibility.
Otherwise, how do we discover these things?
So when people say they see aliens or ghosts or whatever it is, when people say, oh, you're crazy, the video's fake, I'm like, yeah, sure, maybe.
And I think it's fine to approach all of this from, it's probably not real, but we should be analytical of it.
We should question these technologies, because it kind of goes to that saying of, you know, Jesus returned today, how would you know it was him?
You have to be open to the possibility of miracles, of things you can't comprehend, and you can't just dismiss everything all the time.
Otherwise, you'd never discover anything.
I'll put it this way.
Imagine the first dude who ever saw a lightning strike and started a fire, and then he went and said, a flash of light blinded me, and a streak came from the sky, and then this emerged.
They'd be like, BS!
Get out of here!
You're making that up!
No, you gotta be like, okay, maybe they're telling the truth.
But thanks for joining me, Ashton.
Where can people find you?
ashton forbes
Yeah, find me at JustXAshton on Twitter.
And just remember, guys, if you gave DaVinci the iPhone, he wouldn't know what it is either.
Anti-gravity is just a clever use of physics.
It's not some magical thing.
tim pool
Right on.
Well, thanks for joining me.
We'll see you next time.
Take care.
I love all this stuff.
I love all these stories, claims.
Who knows?
I'm going to say it again.
I remain skeptical, and I think it's fine if you're like.
It's probably all fake.
We wish these things were true because life is more mundane.
But I do think it's fair to say the U.S. government has technology we don't understand.
That doesn't mean we can teleport.
I've heard from intelligence individuals that we are working on building faster-than-light communications.
That's not science fiction.
We have entangled particles.
This is like routine physics you get at any university.
And if these things are true, then we can conceptualize utilizing entanglement to transmit data.
I suppose we won't know unless someone releases all the information.
So, my friends, we are going to send a raid to our good friend Russell Brand, who I believe is gearing up to go live now.
And we'll send you over there.
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