Antifa BLASTED With MACE After Attacking Journalists, UW Riots OUT OF CONTROL
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And there you can see it looks like we have in this video, I believe they say Cam Higby deploying mace in an act of self-defense as Antifa had robbed, attacked and charged at these individuals.
What we've seen in the past week or so, once again, Antifa riots and violence escalating over two big issues.
Riley Gaines, who made an appearance protesting male competitors in women's sports and anti Israel protesters taking over buildings.
And I'll say in an effort to do what I honestly don't know.
But we do have joining us right now Cam Higby, who was on the ground and actually was attacked by these Antifa individuals.
So this is obviously over the past—how many days has this been going on now with, like, different protests where Antifa is showing up and getting violent?
unidentified
The only two that I've been to recently—I don't know if there's been any prior.
I was out of town for a couple days, so— I've been to two recently where they took over this building and then this one today, but I'm sure there's been more.
I mean, there's protests going on all the time here.
So, uh, do you want to break down what was going on, how this started?
There was obviously the occupation of that engineering building, which caused, they're saying right now, a million dollars in damages, but that's as an early estimate.
So you were there, you were embedded for that.
Like, how did that, how did that happen?
And why didn't the police, like, how does this come to be where the police don't stop it?
unidentified
Yeah, I mean, well, at first there was no protest, no police presence.
So it's, it's kind of like, I mean, in these places, like, you know, I've done a lot of Journalism in LA and now a lot in Seattle.
And in these cities, the police just don't really do anything about base level property damage.
They don't really care.
So they show up, they take over the building, much like what happened at UCLA.
And they claim that it's funded by Boeing.
I think that's true to some degree.
It's the interdisciplinary engineering building.
So they take it over, they occupy it, and it's kind of in a U shape.
They have a bunch of people inside the building that are occupying, and then they have even more people outside the building in the inner part of this U-shape that the building forms.
It's like a staircase that goes down.
So they're down in there, and they're kind of doing vigils for Hassan Nasrallah, Nishmael Hanea, Hamas, and Hezbollah terrorists.
And whatever.
But then there's Antifa up on the street, and they're moving bike racks and statues and all kinds of stuff from around the campus to block the streets.
At one point, they had a long line of buses going both ways because it forms kind of a T-shape in the road.
And so they're blocking all these buses.
They had some interfights about whether or not they should be blocking the working class on these buses.
But ultimately, it was decided that who cares?
They're blocking the police.
The police formed up in an alley on the opposite side of the street where they had another barrier which consisted of some tipped over dumpsters, some bike racks with lime scooters and electric bikes just thrown around.
And they lit that on fire when the police showed up in the alley to separate them from the police.
But again, why aren't the police coming in and just shutting this stuff down?
unidentified
That's a great question.
They should have done it as soon as they occupied the building, but they didn't.
And so they gave a dispersal order, 1021, everybody better be out of here, you're subject to arrest.
Now there's a huge fire in between them and the protesters, so that 1021 turned into like a 1045.
And so they ended up coming up, they formed a police line around the building.
They told everybody, you're fine to peacefully protest outside the building, even though they're getting in the police's faces.
Prior to the police coming up, actually, though, somebody yelled out, does anybody have projectiles?
And then they started gathering stones up, so there were all these piles of rocks in the roads.
There was bigger rocks, like maybe this size, that were thrown into the road to obscure vehicles, and then there were smaller rocks, like this, piles of them everywhere that were meant to be thrown at the police.
Because Antifa tends to be this immersive group of general leftist causes.
But then we're hearing that— You know, this—and I want to draw this thing, and there's two different—actually, there's like three or four different protests.
But here at UW, there was the Riley Gaines.
That was the transgender one.
This one we're talking about right now was the Israel, Boeing, DeVest, whatever.
But did it seem like there were two distinct groups of ideology among the protesters?
Ideologies?
unidentified
I wouldn't say distinct, but there was definitely, like, infighting.
Like, we had the bus infighting, and that's like—you see that there's kind of two factions or several factions of people there.
These leftist protests, I've observed, kind of just become a conglomerate.
Like you have the trans stuff, and forever you'll see trans stuff at leftist protests.
Now there's the Gaza stuff.
Forever, now you'll see Palestinian flags at leftist protests.
And there was another incident where they were kind of infighting yesterday, the same day that the spray was deployed, where this dude, who I think he's actually tabled with me at UW, where he...
He got on the mic and he said, we need to show the right wing that we're not violent.
We can't give them what they want.
They want us to be violent, whatever.
And the Antifa crowd that was flanking the protest started yelling, they started the violence.
We need to be violent.
It's not business as usual, blah, blah, blah, whatever, you know, the usual.
This is the funniest thing about what the left does.
Now, I call them the left because, as we're pointing out here, It is a group of protesters and their causes change, right?
When they had the anti-Israel protests at Columbia, New York, they had the people's tent.
They had a bunch of socialist causes aligned with anti-Israel.
And these are two distinct causes, but they lump them all together.
They protest together, they riot together, and they actually say, you know, respect the diversity of tactics.
Whereas on the right...
The left will claim that neo-Nazis and libertarians are the same faction.
Or my favorite meme recently was – it was a meme about Donald Trump funding Israel.
And I don't know if you saw this.
Hitler – like the ghost of Hitler was patting Trump on the back, praising him for Trump sending weapons to Israel.
And the responses were like – I think Kyle Kalinske posted it.
People were like – So anyway, we say the left, there is a general large amorphous blob where you have Antifa adopting whatever cause it might be and then aligning themselves with whatever is in the news at this moment.
I mean, I'm ranting right now, but...
You know, moving on to – or actually, I'm curious if there's anything you wanted to add before we move on to the next protest, like anything you saw that people should know about.
unidentified
I mean, yeah, we went over the fires.
It's just the stuff that they're chanting outside of the violence and the like having to deploy the spray, the stuff they're chanting.
Can I repeat what they said or is that going to be like a TOS thing?
And it's like, you see what they're, it's like, it's funny, I saw a post that, Andy reposted either something that Katie or I filmed, and it was like the most vile thing you could say to a person, and then it's like, you just see the preview, and the camera pans over, and it's like this little old lady, like...
Hunching over with a cane, and it's like, oh my god.
It's like, I saw it in person, and I'm still shocked by it.
I mean, they were just laying out in the street, and it seemed there was a group that was kind of standing around them, and I was getting ready to leave, and so I just grabbed it.
It's crazy to me that the police allow these people to show up with these tools and these weapons.
I mean, I get it.
You can grab a rock off the street, but this shows premeditation.
It shows conspiracy to commit a crime.
It seems to me that in the Pacific Northwest, they want and encourage it.
And then one of the stories from Postmillennial was that one of the people arrested at this protest was a public defender.
unidentified
I think Ari Hoffman also reported that one of them was a nurse, too, at a local hospital or clinic or something.
It's just, I don't know.
And there's older people there.
These people are not all students.
And what's really jarring, too, to your point about the police, is there were several points the other night where this police line was formed around the interdisciplinary engineering building.
And the police were like actively saying, you're committing a crime right now.
If you keep doing it, we're going to arrest you.
And it's like, they keep doing it.
And it's like, if you keep doing it, we're going to arrest you.
And they just keep doing it.
And there's no arrests made.
And it's really not the police's fault.
It's not their fault.
It's the fault of the broken city with a broken system full of prosecutors who will not prosecute people who are committing violence in the name of things they believe in.
Yeah, there was one person that was waving a trans flag everywhere, and it's funny, too, because...
The person came up, and I have no idea what gender this person was, what sex or anything, but came up through a bag of some kind of feces at the people who were guarding the door for the Turning Point event.
And this is, by the way, the police have a line in front of these people.
So through the bag of poop past the people.
I saw this, but I didn't know what it was until I saw Katie's reporting.
And so that happens.
And then this person is still coming up and waving the trans flag.
He, she, whatever, is like waving it in front of the police, like right in their faces.
And one of the cops snatched the flag and was like, you're not, this is like, you're using this as a weapon.
You're not allowed to have this.
And then they gave it back.
Like immediately.
It was like, they're like, that is just, that is confiscation of personal property.
Part of me wants to think that what's actually going on is like the RoboCop narrative where.
They're allowing Antifa to do this because it lowers property values so they can start snatching up properties for the public for their commie plans or whatever.
I guess the argument is they don't want to make arrests of Antifa because it will generate viral videos which will exacerbate the riots and the protests.
But I don't believe that because they're as bad as they've been and they're getting worse.
unidentified
And the sad part is we need federal law that bans protesting with masks because… These people also stole my camera and they left with it.
And now I lost my footage for the entire day and $400 worth of equipment.
It was just a GoPro, so it wasn't like a $1,000 camera or anything.
But it's just, I don't have, now I don't have the footage.
I don't have the camera.
I don't have the mount for the camera that mounts it to my chest.
And I've also, I got bear sprayed in LA and the person was wearing a mask.
And I have no way of identifying who this person was to sue them or to bring any kind of.
They tried this in D.C. during Trump's first inauguration in 2017.
You had probably a thousand people in black block.
You know, they're all wearing masks and hoodies and sunglasses.
So they go there with the intent to obfuscate the crimes of their comrades.
And then what happens is the police couldn't identify any single individual.
So they arrested everyone.
They put 230 or so people, charged them, put them through trial, and charged them with conspiracy because they knew they couldn't get any one individual because they're wearing masks.
The court not only dismissed it, but the Antifa people sued the government, the federal government, city of D.C., and won a million bucks.
How do you function?
When these people are able to do these things every day.
So I would say to your mask point, people should be allowed to wear masks.
People should be allowed to wear masks at a protest.
But if you commit a crime, it should aggravate that crime.
So if a protest becomes a riot and you're wearing a mask and now you're breaking the law, it should be a way more serious penalty.
I think the challenge is like sometimes you wear a winter face mask.
Trump is now saying that they're going to put UW under review following the occupation of this building.
But the Trump admin in the first term didn't go after these universities when Antifa was firebombing buildings and protesting for Black Lives Matter.
It seems now that the only reason the Trump admin is going after these universities is because they're engaged in anti-Semitic behavior targeting Jewish students or there are students being deported because they're critical of Israel.
I'm curious your thoughts on that.
unidentified
Yeah, I mean I don't – I don't recall exactly what happened back in 2020 so long ago, but I don't think it is necessarily because of that.
I think Trump is just cracking down on everything now and doesn't have any fears because he – It doesn't have to run for re-election again.
Yesterday wasn't about anything related to Israel or anything like that.
It was a Riley Gaines thing.
They're doing the same stuff.
I don't think that's really the case because they're protesting lots of stuff, but UW is a ripe place to crack down on.
I table at UW.
Virtually every week.
And they come up to me and they steal my hat, my MAGA hat off my head.
They rip my signs off my table.
They try to steal my camera.
They turn my camera off while I'm recording.
It is a campus full of absolute degenerate miscreants.
Don't understand the rule of law because there is no rule of law in Seattle, Washington.
Your laws are only as good as the mechanism that enforces them, and if you don't enforce the laws, they don't exist.
If the police were going to arrest them and they were doing it, I'd say they must not understand or they don't care.
But I think one of the biggest issues we've seen with Portland and Seattle, you had the Chaz Chop, whatever they called it.
They didn't want to call it the Chaz because autonomous was like a legal thing or something like that.
But people were killed.
And then they tried in Portland.
They did it in Atlanta.
They didn't in Minnesota.
But largely in the Pacific Northwest, you had this going on where they seized a police building.
So my only conclusion is the police are in on it.
And maybe you're right.
When you said it's not really the police's fault individually, like these beat cops know that even if they try to make an arrest, they're going to get yelled at by their boss, the person's going to get let go, the city's going to pay a settlement, and they're going to get in trouble.
I suppose I would say the police bear some responsibility for this because if these cops really felt that their hands were tied and it was unjust, they should just resign and protest.
I can't do my job.
I'm not going to.
Because what would happen?
To these cities, if the police just said, nope, and then the protesters got to do whatever they wanted, the people who live in these cities might actually then vote to change things, unless, of course, it's what they want.
So I don't know, man.
I'm curious then, what are your thoughts on the sentiment of the people who live in Seattle in and around UW?
unidentified
I think it's pretty divided because I think...
You get a lot of people who are honking their horns as they drive through.
But as I was walking down the street in Black Block, I had a lot of really angry people yelling at me.
Like, hey man, where's the violence happening today?
What are you going to do?
Beat up an old lady today?
Are you going to take over another building?
They can't tell, but I'm laughing.
I felt bad because there was a cameraman for this new station.
And I won't say who or what station.
You know, he's not for these people or whatever, but he's not doing anything wrong.
He's like this little innocent Hispanic guy, and he's so sweet.
And they're, like, walking by just finishing harassing these old people, and he's in the parking lot, and they walk by, and why don't you, you know, end your life too?
And, you know, it's just like you just see the, like, the sadness, like, wash over these people's faces.
And so I went over afterwards and I like pulled my mask down.
He was like, hey, how are you?
You know, but it's like you just feel bad for these people that are just getting harassed for literally no reason.
And there are no repercussions for threatening violence against people or for following people to their cars and shouting out their license plate numbers or standing in front of people and false imprisoning them.
When I was there, there was a group of young people, scuzz punk, lefty types.
They called the Avenue Rats.
They called the Avrats.
And they lived on the University Avenue by all the markets and all the food and restaurants.
unidentified
I think I might have interviewed one the other day.
I don't go on the Ave very often, but I mean, the Ave is crazy.
I was interviewing this dude who might have been one of these Ave rats the other day, and we're interviewing him, and this homeless dude comes up, and he starts just like, there's this smaller...
Girl who's, like, listening to our conversation, standing kind of off to the side.
And this dude, this homeless dude, comes up right behind her and he starts throwing these e-scooters and e-bikes.
He's, like, yelling because he can't park his bike or, like, in the bike zone.
Jeez, I'm 39. It really does feel like all of our cities are getting worse.
Yeah.
I mean, I've had stories of crazy homeless people, but the stuff we see popping up now I don't think is just a phenomenon of social media making it more apparent.
I heard stories out of New York, Chicago, Seattle, L.A. I mean, the videos that come out of L.A. with the homelessness of people taking dumps in the street.
I also got to be honest, never been to—I covered protests for about eight or nine years on the ground across the U.S. and in other countries.
Never saw someone throw feces at somebody.
You know, seems like things have escalated.
unidentified
They absolutely have.
The tactics are changing.
And I didn't even realize that's what she threw until I saw, like— John Cho texted me and he's like, somebody threw poop outside.
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Yup, I even had live stream written on my phone, and then some dude physically attacked me.
But to the point where they're throwing feces and they bloodied up Andy Ngo, it's getting crazy.
What I will say for Cam, for those other guys that are on the ground, for me, it got to a point where I was getting attacked.
I was getting trolled.
There's a video to Boston where this right-wing dude pulls my head off.
And I, like, naturally just got super pissed.
At that protest...
Some Antifa guy who was like, I don't know, 240 pounds.
Got in my face and was swinging at me.
Threatening to hit me.
And so here I am.
I got this guy in my face.
And then I walk down and then this dude comes up behind me and then yanks my head off.
And I'm just on edge already.
Super pissed off.
Surrounded by the far left.
And now I'm like, now these guys are coming up to me.
I just was like, this is...
It's getting too much.
People know who I am.
And so I was in...
I think I was in Portland.
And I actually had some 30-year-old guy, it's like the craziest thing in the world, chasing me, literally jumping in front of the camera, just making weird noises.
And he wasn't associated with any of the protests.
The cops couldn't do anything about it.
And it's at this point, it's like, you can't actually do the job anymore.
So here I am, you know, and that's where I end up.
So shout out to all the guys that are still on the ground doing this reporting.
One question I should have asked, like, how come nobody's live streaming anymore?
You used to have people, they would go live.
But I suppose too many people are using those live streams to find you and then disrupt what you're doing.
And if you're going to be like Cam or Katie and you're undercover, you're dressed in black block to try and avoid being attacked, a live stream will just get you exposed.
That's how much things have kind of escalated.
But I think we do have a couple of rumble rants here, or at least one that came in.
And we got men walk away saying Antifa and BLM are the brown shirts of fascist Democrats.
Indeed, man.
Indeed.
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Let's see.
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Hard to not pick you out of the crowd.
Are you talking about me?
Maybe.
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