The Culture War #50 Pro Skater CUT For Being White, Skateboarding GOES WOKE
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Mike Powell
Taylor Silverman @BooniesHQ (YouTube)
Dennis @BooniesHQ (YouTube)
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- You got a lot of industries that are going woke.
And a lot of people, I know most people who watch the shows we do, they don't skateboard.
They don't know that much about it because it's not the biggest industry.
I mean, if we're talking about football, it'd be easy.
But we've got a couple of really interesting stories as it pertains to a major sporting event, an Olympic sporting event, and how it's pushing female skateboarders out, and also how it's becoming increasingly racist.
Quite literally telling people that you're white, you can't be involved in a certain campaign or something like that.
That's actually our lead story.
But I also think we'll definitely get into women's sports in general.
So this is kind of like a round two.
Skateboarding, of course, is kind of the sporting linchpin because I've been doing most of my life.
We got some skateboarders in the house, some pro skateboarders.
And we'll do our best for all of you who are listening to translate and try and tone down the esoteric nature of talking heavy sports.
But for those that are interested, I think this is not about skateboarding.
It's just about a major sport.
It's the Olympics.
And it's about how we're seeing female skateboarders be pushed out.
It's about how we're seeing the industry get taken over.
And what I find really fascinating about this... First, I'm biased because I skate.
I see this more than anybody else.
But I do think this matters because skateboarding is a small industry.
It's a big sport, it's an Olympic sport like I mentioned, but it is relatively small in terms of its market share.
And this means it was very easy to inject politics into, but also really fragile.
So my view, I honestly think that a lot of this woke expansion into skateboarding has destroyed it.
And I think one of the reasons we're seeing brands fail is because of it.
You know, when you've got people who are inspired to be the best athletes being shut out in favor of, say, a male wearing a dress doing a trick that is not even considered to be of good merit, well then no one actually cares about the sport.
It's just about...
Posing.
I'll say it just like this.
The history of the word poser.
You guys ever hear this one?
Maybe an urban legend, but it's somebody who took a skateboard, posed on it, took a picture, and it was fake.
They weren't actually doing the cool maneuver.
And so people was like, you're posing.
You're a poser.
And that's what we're seeing now.
Instead of seeing the coolest trick, get the big ad, get the news, and inspire people, or like, instead of seeing the best maneuver, the 10 out of 10, we're starting to see A random person who's not that good, but they have the right pronouns, or they're wearing the right clothes, or they fit the diversity narrative.
So, we got a couple homies hanging out.
Mike, do you want to introduce yourself first?
unidentified
What's up?
I'm Mike Poley.
Originally from Connecticut, live in New York City now.
But Taylor, of course, for those that don't know, spoke out after male skateboarders competed in female sporting events and took the prize money From her, and then Colin Wright, I guess, found the story?
He saw your post?
unidentified
Well, it was originally Christina Buttons wrote the story, and he shared it.
Well, we'll get him in here at some point later today, he just can't come in early to come on the show.
unidentified
What I don't understand is how he hit a deer on the bike going like 40, like what, less than a week ago and was fine, and then he like falls because he didn't put the kickstand down and now he's out.
That you can try the hardest trick, everyone in the whole world's watching live, and then you'll try it 50 times and you'll slam, you'll slam, you'll land it, everyone claps and cheers, but then you hop off a curb, slip, fall, break your ankle.
So I think, you know, how this all started is because we did an episode with Richie.
And we were talking about what's happening with the industry and the community in terms of wokeness, the culture war, online fighting, which I think is really fascinating.
And I asked the audience, like I said early, we'll try and separate a lot of the esoteric out of this and focus just on like...
Being online, being in opposition to the woke culture stuff, and what it means as a professional industry, what they're doing and how they're doing it to people.
So this means like women's sports, racist policies, and I definitely want to get into the astro-turfing that I see going on in an attempt to try and steal what skateboarding is.
And so replace skateboarding with any pro sport and, you know, understand it that way because I understand it can get a little in the weeds, but let's start here.
Mike, tell your story about how you were too white.
unidentified
It's a cool thing for skateboarders to get little campaign gigs or whatever.
Some company is doing some ad campaign, you get a little bit of extra money on the side.
You're able to like not work as much and like skate.
I mean, I have a full-time job now.
I was just hyped to get a little bit of extra cash.
So one of my friends was asked to recruit some skateboarders for an LGBTQ Snipes campaign that I think happened a year, a year and a half ago.
But, um... And so the first thing that I find funny here is they're like, yo, we wanna do an ad campaign, they gotta be gay.
unidentified
Exactly.
And I'm like, alright, I'm hyped, like, I don't necessarily, like, make that my whole entire personality, but yeah, like, that's who I am.
So I'm like, yeah, I'd love to do that.
I'd love to get a little bit of extra money.
He's like, all right, cool.
Like, let me tell him that you're down, blah, blah, blah.
Basically comes back like an hour later and is like, dude, they're like, why is he white?
And then he's like, maybe you could just like lie and say like you're Puerto Rican or something.
I'm like, well, I mean, like I'm kind of like a ginger, so I don't know how that's going to like,
really work and and so I just never ended up getting the campaign and then some kid that I actually know got in I don't know if he replaced me but he was one of the people in the campaign and I guess he identifies as LGBTQ but this dude like he like has a girlfriend has a kid like lives his life pretty much as like a straight human it's just he checked The race box or whatever you want to say.
I'd like to give this opportunity to shout out Mark Cuban.
And how about anybody who's interested, take a clip of that and share it with them.
Because I don't know if you follow on X. I'm trying hard not to say Twitter, but it's like... You still type Twitter in and it goes... Right, right.
But Mark Cuban's saying this stuff doesn't happen.
No one is passing over, you know, the right person for it because they want to find diversity or whatever.
And it's like, They're quite literally happening all the time.
You have people who are, like, have the merit, have the worth, and are what they're looking for, but then behind the scenes, they'll be like, nah, we don't want white people.
unidentified
Yeah, and then, yeah, it's like a whole thing, too.
Like, my friend was telling, I don't want to, like, throw, I don't want to, like, burn bridges, but basically, I heard even, like, Supreme, like, the people at the top of, like, Supreme were like, don't hire any more white people for the store.
I'm like, you could have just gave me the 700 bucks and called it a day.
That's all you gave people anyway.
What I don't understand about the logic is it's all aimed to be inclusive and anti-racist, but it always ends up being racist.
There's no self-awareness of what they're actually doing.
You say all these things like we want to be included, we're being inclusive, we want to be included in these things, we're not racist, like we coexist with people and then like the moment that someone doesn't agree with you, you say all these like media hype terms that like oh you're a fascist, oh you're a white supremacist, oh you're this, oh you're that, like when in reality it's like Who's actually doing that?
You guys are.
You guys are exactly what you say you aren't.
I think what people have the problem with is no one actually cares how you live your life.
It's like when you start telling people they're this or that, when you're actually that, you have no self-awareness on it.
Yeah, you've posted like rainbow flags and stuff haven't you?
Yeah, it was just like a wake-up call for you all of a sudden You're like if you're when when you go to it's all it's all one bug one big umbrella.
You know what I mean?
Yeah Like now you go to down on Frederick for instance and they've got the progress pride flag flying on a bunch of these different stores They got one with like the American Eagle in the middle of it.
That's that's creepy Like for you when this happened did that kind of like was like a smack in the face?
unidentified
Yeah I mean like I was like how you what like how you got me all hyped up just to tell me like I'm not good enough like you if if you they were just telling you to recruit LGBTQ people like well like I'm that like and then and then you go back and they're like no you're like why is he white it's like alright like so why didn't you just say that from the jump instead of like getting people involved like Isn't it kind of like the fact that they were looking for LGBTQ in the first place?
I guess they didn't tell their scout and he picked a white guy and got chewed out for it.
Imagine someone being like, oh, there's this new shoe campaign, and you're good at skating, you can get a trick in it, and they come back and they go, how come he's straight?
You know what I mean?
unidentified
That's what I'm wondering, if there was even any skating in the edit, because you would have actually done well, and I just, the way that, you know, most of these kids, they're not doing a whole lot.
I wonder if there's actually any skating in the edit.
It's just a great clip of somebody pushing down a sidewalk.
It's wild, I mean, You know, I was talking about this in, like, 2018, that we will come to the point where wokeness is not just in video games.
Alright, so this is the thing, like, back then we have, you know, you're coming off GamerGate in, like, 2013, wokeness in video games and stuff like this.
And then I said, just wait until this starts getting into major league sports, because they will, because the rules are arbitrary, like, in that we make them up.
Sooner or later, they're gonna come out and be like, why aren't basketball teams half women?
Look, we made the rules, right?
So let's just change the rules.
So that's inclusive and diverse.
Of course, I don't think they'll ever, you know, cause people are making fun of Mark Cuban.
Cause he's like diversity.
And they're like, how can your basketball team's not diverse?
You made this short Asian woman to play on your team.
He won't do it.
And so then he tries to like hem and haw and like make excuses.
But with people like Mark Cuban, I would not be surprised when the pressure campaign comes to him and they're like, oh, you really do believe in diversity, equity, and inclusivity?
Okay, then lead the way.
We want to change the rules of the NBA and make it so that all NBA teams have to be half men, half women.
And then what are they going to do?
Is Cuban going to come out and be like, no, I oppose this.
unidentified
Yeah, when it starts affecting, like, you personally, like, that's when, like, people, like, start changing their tone about it.
Like, same thing with, like, the Martha, like, different topic, but when they sent a bus to, like, Martha's Vineyard or whatever, and it's like... A plane, I think, right?
It's like they all probably had like or like they're talking like oh no one's legal no one's this no one's that Probably had like the little things the little flags on their thing like state like, you know, like the political No people are illegal until they're in my yard No, you guys got it like send them back like the same day it's like I think I think I Well, I'll stop, I'll stop.
I think it's possible we go to a future where this kind of stuff starts happening, where it's like, the NFL has to have women now, you know, and they're gonna be like, we can just do it.
unidentified
But- It's like the UFC boxing too, it's like- But I do think- Man, that's, it's happening in boxing.
They just changed the rules for USA boxing to- Olympics?
Allow for men who identify as women to compete or to box women.
And then there was like in MMA, this was happening.
So it's just like you know maybe it's a value bet you bet on the female to win it could happen and then you might win like a dollar wins you ten grand.
unidentified
I just picture Andy Kaufman in a onesie like I'm from Hollywood!
Just pinning women.
And people were mad when he did it as a joke and now it's happening for real and people are like this is great.
It's definitely like this whole world is like just turning into a South Park episode.
Yeah.
It's hard to differentiate satire from reality at this point.
I've said it like 27 times this week, but Shane Gillis is hosting Saturday Night Live, and five years ago, SNL fired him because he had edgy jokes.
He did an Asian accent, and I think he said a slur for Asians or whatever, but he was making a joke, he was doing a bit, and they were like, okay, that's it, you're fired.
Now they don't care.
They, now they're like, okay, he's going to host the show, which is, wow.
And then a bunch of media outlets tried canceling him for, we've resurfaced all of his offensive jokes.
Nobody, they don't care.
He's still hosting.
unidentified
Yeah.
But that's like what makes comedy what comedy is.
It's like, you have to talk about the stuff that's ridiculous.
You got to like push like boundaries with things.
It's like, not that like I'm trying to like incite violence against people.
It's just like actually funny when you like break it down.
And like, just make it like a joke, like what it should be, you know?
And what was crazy about this volleyball game is he's there trying to talk to coaches, trying to talk to anybody, and they're all just like pushing him away and they're like calling him a bigot.
And there are people who are like fans who are watching who are screaming at him like just calling him all sorts of crazy names like just fuming heads and they weren't even able to hear what he was saying they're just like seeing red because he's even brought up that this is silly.
It's just also insane.
There's five people on the volleyball team and they're all men identifying as women.
If you could replace the whole starting lineup, you obviously have enough people to do your own thing.
Why do you have to intrude on something that's supposed to be for women?
You can have a trans volleyball team and compete against other trans people.
It's like, maybe years ago when it wasn't in everyone's face or radar, it seemed like there wasn't that many people.
Oh, there's plenty.
That were trans, but now that you're seeing it more and more, there's enough people to do what you need to do.
It would defeat the point.
It would defeat the point if they just played against each other.
Well, yeah, they don't want to have a fair contest.
It's a generality, because we've got no issue in, I mean, Super Bowl, I'm so excited.
Super Bowl Sunday.
It's gonna be fun.
Although everybody who lives out here is super pissed that the Ravens didn't make it, so shout out to all the Maryland homies, because every time you bump into somebody, they're just like, I'm not watching that!
They're so mad.
But it's gonna be fun, and I got no issue.
I mean, the only issue we got going on at Super Bowl right now is that Taylor Swift is going to be there and everyone's complaining about it.
But this is never going to affect major... It's like, on the issue of... So are the Chiefs going to win?
Apparently you can bet on him to propose to Taylor Swift too, but I couldn't find that one.
I think it's in Vegas.
But anyway, here's my point.
We can sit here and there's no concern that there's going to be like a trans man in the NFL and we're going to be like, dude, the Chiefs are going to lose because they've got like on their roster as a player who's not reaching the same level as other players.
Not going to happen.
And so then you look at women's volleyball.
You know, like Family Guy made the joke about the WNBA.
When they were watching, I don't know if you guys ever saw this one, it's actually really great.
And they were like, you know, so-and-so is going down the court, makes the shot and misses, that's why she commands $10,000 a year.
And they're like, but is it really worth being so unattractive?
That's for the fan to decide.
And just one guy in the audience going, yay!
So like, you know, they get roasted.
But so when I'm watching all these videos, like you were mentioning of Rebel, It's a bunch of women and they're like, leave him alone.
unidentified
And it's like, it's oftentimes the women who are, who are backing this up and it's crazy.
And a lot of them are like, we're feminists and men are the best women who we must protect.
The logic is so twisted.
It's like, what are you going to do when all your spaces are taken?
And I think I think what women like it as in general a big downfall of a lot of women is that it is more important to them to be perceived as nice and likable and agreeable than it is to have self-respect you know I wonder I wonder if there's like.
Maybe just evolutionary psychology, women are focused on men, and so this is why this stuff works for them.
Now, you know, women's sports starts getting dominated by males, and it is mostly women who are voting for this and in favor of this.
Like, if you look at voting demographics, guys don't vote for this stuff, but guys probably don't vote for women's sports for the most part because they're not watching it.
unidentified
Yeah, but I think that there are men who think they don't have a dog in this fight, but then think about fathers who have girls.
They're pissed about this.
There's a lot of men speaking up.
There's a lot of men who are athletes who know there's a huge difference between male and female in athletics.
Yeah, I think even Bruce Jenner, I mean Caitlyn Jenner has spoken out about that.
You can call him Bruce.
Yeah, has spoken out about that too.
They would never compete in the women's golf tournament.
I don't think they would even be allowed.
He did accept an award for woman of the year though.
There are a lot of people who are like trans identifying who think this is all bullcrap and like they think that this is just dragging their names through the mud that there's a small group of people saying that everyone agrees with us.
That's also what I have a problem with with like the LGBTQ community and how I can't really fully like get on board with it and it's like I'm kind of embarrassed to be associated with it because it's all like a group think scenario.
It's like as soon as you come out as gay you have to like think, act, dress exactly how everyone else does.
It's like, why can't there just be a regular gay person like being represented in these spaces?
Like, why does it all have to be some fringe, someone wearing a dress or a skirt or like doing whatever it is to be like the most extreme.
It's like, there's plenty of regular just gay dudes or regular gay women that just go about their lives.
And they should be represented too.
It's not right to make assumptions about an entire group.
It's like Joe Biden saying, if you don't vote for Biden, you ain't black.
He does it with black people.
It happens with all groups and it's never accurate to put everyone in one category.
I'll tell you the fastest way to actually make a big change in all this would be to start petitioning and getting everybody on board with demanding the NFL split their teams half-men half-women.
Like, you gotta have your team half-female on the field at all times.
The NFL combine and hurt herself on the attempt and right only thing and now there's NFL There's women referees and that's been a big deal There was a there was a story where I was like a college team or might have been a high school team I think and they had like the first female player and they lost and the dudes are all like on the verge of tears because it's like Dude, you're you're you're look with all due respect major league sports All the big games, they do not have rules barring women.
Colleges, I believe, do.
Like, you know, college basketball, it's specifically like the men's division or whatever.
But, NBA.
Ain't nothing stopping Mark Cuban from finding the best person who happens to be a woman.
That's his logic, right?
This is how you know these people are full of it.
And that's why I say, we should get a petition going.
We gotta find our- I bet we could get a bunch of woke people and leftists to agree with us and actually campaign for this.
To make the point.
Alright Mark Cuban, I wanna see three women on your basketball- on the Mavericks.
Why not?
He can find women who are good at basketball, right?
How about the best in the WNBA could be on his team?
Like the odds will be really bad, but it's free money, right?
unidentified
The crazy thing too about the whole diversity, equality and inclusion thing is like now, I mean, besides the fact that I've heard that it's starting to implode, but like they're starting to like reach even further, like where they're trying to like hire like airplane pilots that like where they're trying to like hire like airplane pilots that are like possibly like can't fly Hiring based on race rather than race.
No, like, even, like, even, like, disability.
Like, we just have to have, like, some crazy, like... We need blind pilots!
I love it, because one story is, like, collide, and the other story is, like, touched.
- Well, either way, I mean, those things are not taken off the ground.
And yeah, that's like a very scary story when you're starting to get a lot of this stuff, especially with the Max 9 planes that are built wrong.
unidentified
Dude, it's, you know what, man? - I've heard that they pretty much can fly themselves, but at the end of the day, like you don't, you want someone that like knows what they're doing is like very, very on top of what they're doing when they have like two, 300 passengers I've seen the commercial.
I think it's Virgin Air or something, and it's, like, you can tell the whole entire commercial is just, like, drag queens and stuff, like, or people cross-dressing or whatever you want to call it.
Right.
Oh, yeah.
And it's a horrible commercial.
It's, like, yeah, that's how I pick my flights is by the flight attendants being gay.
I sit down on the plane, I put on my headphones, I turn on my steam deck, and I play Baldur's Gate, and all I hear in the background is... And I'm just like, I don't know orc hair, dude.
To the wind with ye.
Like, if the plane goes down, I'm just like... But, you know, at a certain point.
But I think it's funny because... Look, I assume if the pilot's female, she can fly the plane.
I don't know.
But it's starting to change, like we don't know if that's the case anymore.
unidentified
You know what, industry is really getting impacted by DEI with men taking women's positions.
And, you know, a few years ago I was like, man, if this goes to major league sports, you're going to get a riot.
Could you imagine if, like, the Chiefs announced right now, two days before the Super Bowl, to be inclusive, they were gonna bring on four women onto the team to make a point, and then said something like, it's not about winning, it's about being inclusive.
That's exactly what they're telling women when a dude shows up to a contest and you're like, I worked pretty hard to be here and I would actually like a chance at earning this money and, you know, placing.
And they're like, no, it's more important that you be inclusive because this person's so oppressed that they get to do whatever they want all the time.
I got no beef, but I think it's important to bring up because this is a like a serious issue that affects a lot of people.
And I think it's negative for female skateboarders.
And so the issue here is that Leo was born lacy.
Female skater.
One of the best.
One of the best in the world.
And at some point, Lazy decided that they were trans and would go by he-him and be called Leo.
But kept competing in female leagues.
And so the question is, when it comes to women's sports, If they're saying like, oh, a trans woman is a woman, therefore they can compete in the Women's League, then how come a trans man was competing in the Women's League too?
One of the top female skaters in the world, trans or otherwise, quitting the Olympics.
You know why?
You can't have a male identifying individual, someone identifying as a man, competing against women.
It doesn't fit the ideology because if trans men are men, then you gotta compete in the men's division.
Yeah, but there there is no reality where Leo Baker has the skills to compete against a 13 I'm gonna say a 13 year old boy Yeah, as an adult top like peaked out female skater will never compete at the skill level Especially how good like kids are nowadays at skating.
unidentified
It's like ridiculous like oh We pulled up Jinwoo.
I was gonna say.
I was just thinking about Jinwoo, because I always thought it was a girl.
Me too.
And it's a little boy.
The first time I saw a video of him, for a second, I was like, holy shit.
Yeah, I was like, it's a little girl R.I.P.S.
And I was like, oh, of course.
Every time I think some girl R.I.P.S., it's not a girl.
You know how many little boys I know who skate around the parks around here and they got long hair and someone will go up to them and be like, oh, what a cute girl.
I've been called a woman like three times this year by accident.
But I'm just wondering if, like, he was thinking, I'm gonna do the easiest stupid thing I can think of, because I'm just gonna get paid and get out of here.
Cause when I, when I was growing up, like my, my, my dad was like, don't tell anybody you're Asian.
Like when you're applying for jobs, just put Hispanic, if you're going to put anything or don't put anything at all.
Cause they're allowed to discriminate against you.
And it was funny.
Cause I remember I'm a little kid and I was like, how come that's allowed?
And he goes, cause Asians aren't a voting block.
unidentified
I actually dated a black dude and he's like the best thing my mom ever did for me was name me Chris because when I fill out an application they don't see like some some diverse name and like automatically like throw my application to the side like they'll actually give me a chance just because I sound like a white name or whatever it might be.
The, Cal Penn, the actor, his first name I think is Cal Penn.
And so he couldn't get any callbacks 'cause his last name is Indian or whatever.
unidentified
So he just started saying his name was Cal Penn and then he started getting callbacks. - I know a girl who started going by Miles just so she could get jobs.
Like, I don't even think her name is Miles, but she started going by it.
As a tattoo artist, it's like, oh, guys want to see Miles on the thing.
It's like, they don't want to see whatever her real name is or first name is or whatever it is.
Not to get too controversial either.
It's like, I don't ever feel like as a white man, like I ever been given just an opportunity based on that.
Like, obviously, it even came down to the point where I got an opportunity taken away for that.
So it's like, In America, don't let them lie to you.
Anything is possible with hard work.
It doesn't matter who you are, you just have to work hard.
A lot of people that don't want to work hard just make excuses for things.
Like, he's given pocket aces being the son of a wealthy senator, and look what he did with it!
Yikes!
unidentified
I mean, he ain't doing... But he gets incentivized, too, because he gets away with it, so... He's not gonna starve, but his teeth did fall out of his head.
When I was looking up last night, kind of a joke and kind of not a joke was writing these wars off on your taxes.
I was like, how much?
How much money have they sent Israel and Ukraine?
It's like, how much would you even get if you broke it down by like, how many people are in the country?
Oh, let's do that.
It's like 150 bucks.
I'm like, I'm actually like there's like 340 million people in the country or something and it's like if you break down some of those are babies I'm actually annoyed when I don't get my money in New York in New York like I Always owe the state but like now you're like literally just like giving people that cross the border with like no checks and bounds like you're literally giving them like credit card stipends where you're gonna fill it up every month and
You're giving them, like, all these benefits and then leaving, like, homeless people on the streets that, like, probably fought for our country, probably went to Ukraine, probably went to wherever it might be, and, like, you're, like, just shitting on them.
I've always wondered that.
I'm always like, how do these people end up on the street?
And, like, you feel bad and then, you know, maybe someone goes, Well, they did that to themselves, or their own drugs.
It's like, not really, dude.
Not half the time, probably.
Bro, I- It's just like, oh yeah, like, if I beat up a cop, like, I'd go to jail for, like, ten years, but like, instead, you just, like, let these people off, and they're like, oh, you know what, like, maybe we'll just... send them to California, like, get rid of the problem, but like... Bro, I got bad news for you.
So I just did the current amount sent to Ukraine plus the $60 billion they're sending now.
And I'm going to be very broad with it because it really depends on how you calculate working adult population, but it'd probably be closer to like between $500 to $1,000.
unidentified
Still not a lot when you think about it, but I guess.
You know what's really crazy is during COVID, I didn't, I didn't get any stimulus and we didn't take any of that PPP stuff, but it was kind of creepy how people were trying to make me take that money.
Yeah, but some of these stories are like, you get an account with your COVID payment in it, and then somebody would spend their own money on something like a luxury, and then the government would be like, aha, that proves you weren't going through hardship, and you lied, you committed fraud, you're getting criminally charged for the loan.
And you had a bunch of people now ripping through the database of all the loans of who got them.
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Was it considered a loan?
Yes.
Business loans though.
Like people were getting business loans for big businesses that they were making up on the spot.
She like gave a contract to- She screwed a bunch of people out of a bunch of money and helped her family.
Yeah.
If I was part of that community, I would be upset.
I mean, I guess a lot of the chapters did actually get pretty upset about it.
That's what I'm saying.
That's what I kept seeing.
Like the people that were on the ground.
Speaking of giving money to these, you know, like or whatever to the left or whatever it is.
You didn't hear, you didn't know the other day when I mentioned that Thrasher has been given the Biden campaign like thousands and thousands of dollars?
We were hanging out down in the green room, and I can't remember who... It was like Richie was talking to somebody or something about skateboarding being counterculture.
And then I said, no way, dude.
Skateboarding, my whole life, has been the most bootlicking-est community ever.
It's an isolated community where they only care about each other, they only care about skateboarding, but like, going pro in skateboarding basically meant figuratively fellating the rich guys who owned the big companies, and if they said you're pro, you're pro.
unidentified
Yeah, you had to be a part of the circle, and to be a part of that circle you had to basically... You had to lick the boot!
I just messaged that page, I'm gonna see if he sees it and sends it to me.
You know, since I started skateboarding, if you want to be pro, if you want to be a professional, it only counts if one of the top millionaires who owns one of these companies who doesn't skate decides you are.
And if you do anything through an independent company or whatever, oh, you're a kook.
That one doesn't count.
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But it used to be like you actually had, like, besides the fact that you had to play your cards right and play by their rules, like, you actually had to be, like, phenomenally good at skating.
But real quick, the reason I brought this up is because what Dennis is saying is, The people behind Thrasher Magazine, which is one of the premier skateboarding magazines, have become major Democrat donors.
And for those that don't know... Alright, let's break it down.
Trucks are the metal part on the bottom of a skateboard which you attach your wheels to and you screw to the wood.
This company is the company that used to have their company logo looked like it looked like a Maltese cross and they got rid of their logo because they were accused of being racist.
A logo they had used for 50 years they abandoned and so it's mine now.
And then and then not only that, this is our logo now.
Well, they never came after it trying to reclaim it.
And then all the LGBTQ people that did ride for Independent, they had to crumble to the woke mob too and start skating different trucks, like go to Ace or Crux or whatever it might be.
That sucks.
But hasn't Independent... Brian Anderson was like... Dude, Independent is arguably one of the best truck companies you could ride for.
They, um, I think they've kind of gone a little bit woke.
I see them, like, in the comments section, uh, some of, like, the trans skaters with, like, hearts and... Yeah, because they're trying to get, like, their, their, I don't know, their... whatever, like, crumbling to the woke mob or whatever.
It's happening with a bunch of companies.
I do have a theory about when...
skateboarding started to become like we like as soon as we started allowing like the nike the converse and the like vans was always a part of skateboarding but they are a corporately uh publicly traded company or whatever it's like once we started allowing them to dictate and pay the riders more than what board companies were like they start now they control the narrative Now they're the ones injecting the ideology into the skateboard community or whatever.
Like Vans?
Like Vanity Fair?
I mean, I'll still take a Nike box, so just... Or... Nike?
Tuberville, some Republicans have filed a bill to ban trans women from U.S.
Olympic teams.
And so, hold on there.
I take offense to this.
This is Greg Stube, Tommy Tuberville.
Uh, they want to, uh, ban trans women from competing, but not trans men?
This is shockingly offensive.
I mean, certainly, the bill should be, uh, inclusive, and if they want to ban transgender individuals, they should include trans men, right?
For what reason would they not?
Oh, perhaps it's because trans men will never compete against men in the Olympics.
The other interesting thing, but here's- here's the big takeaway from this.
I don't- I don't see why Russia would care, or North Korea.
Like, do you guys remember the doping scandals in the 90s?
Like all the story was like the Soviet women were just like super ripped and hopped up on testosterone.
unidentified
They did a joke like that in dodgeball where they had this little buck woman and it was funny as hell.
Well, they were gonna do whatever it took to win.
Oh, the little Girl Scouts and one of them was like a giant Russian dude or something?
Oh, I forgot about that part.
And they're like, when have you tested positive for high testosterone?
And you look at them, it's like one giant dude.
These little, like, Girl Scouts.
Funny movie.
Are they doing that now in certain sports, where you have to test your testosterone level?
To some extent.
I think that's why that dude Ricky is trying to be in the Women's Olympics, because if he comes under a certain threshold of testosterone, they might let him do it.
Yeah, so they didn't let him in because testosterone levels, which is ridiculous to be like, Oh, the only reason is because the testosterone.
It's like, what about the whole full-blown man?
What about the 30 years of skateboarding as a man and a marine?
Like, this is, it's not like you just change your hormones and boom, you're a woman.
And I kind of think that's really weird because usually up to the Olympics everyone's going crazy and there's ads everywhere and like McDonald's is doing their thing.
unidentified
I think the only people that care are the ones that are like actually trying to be in it.
That's the thing, is like, people were hating on me being in the Olympics so much, but I was like, if one of your homies was in the Olympics, you'd be hyped.
I got like two or three people who were in the Olympics that I know, and I'm like, good for them.
I don't care, I don't think it's whack.
Are there any dudes competing in women's Olympics this time around?
Because it's happened before.
Some non-binary chick was in the women's, but they are a woman.
I'm talking about not just skateboarding, but who's the non-binary skateboarder?
And I don't know if you can say it's a good thing, but imagine, like, you're a teenager, and then your, like, proctorate comes to you and says, your career will be skateboarder!
Here's your board, here are your shoes, you'll get a new one every month, go to the skate park and get good.
unidentified
That's what they do.
I didn't know there were, like, skaters coming out of North Korea.
Hold on, we gotta be careful because for people who don't know what we're talking about, if you say Ricky and her, they don't understand you're talking about a guy.
Because if you just say, you know, she beat her, people don't understand what you're saying.
unidentified
Yeah, if you're a skater, you've seen this guy.
You know.
I mean, I wasn't there.
I was out of town for whatever reason, but my friends were like, we were there and it was weird.
Well, I posted about it and it blew up in the news.
But, um, yeah, he did an interview talking about how, like, he didn't do anything wrong.
And this young girl, it was actually sad.
I met her, like, very briefly.
I think I ran into her once at Tampa.
I met her and her mom and she's like, oh, it's okay.
Nice family.
But yeah, the video of it's Okay, I'm just worried about how Ricky feels and it felt like this coached weird thing But she felt like her like if she was against it like everything probably would yeah there there goes your sponsors There goes your future in skateboarding, but um it's gone because of him
She was I believe she was coached when she was younger by Rodney Meade who is a old vert pro he's an awesome dude he's like this crazy invert guy on vert ramp and I don't know he's like got a place in Florida I think he calls it the Mountain Dew Manor or something.
He's coached kids for a long time.
He's an awesome guy, old friend of mine.
And right when I spoke up, he was like, yeah, this is crazy.
I run the Florida Amp Skate League.
We're not going to allow this.
And I was like, well, at least her coach is standing up for her.
Even if her mother won't and honestly I cannot imagine being a parent and watching this happen to your kid and sitting back and acting like it's okay because if I had a child and this happened to them I would raise even more hell than I did when it happened to me.
People are so scared of being canceled but it's like the more people that speak up the more it's it's gonna be people are gonna be better off like everyone's yeah.
So Ben Shapiro had said a while back talking about the issue of pronouns that in public for the purpose of like a small you know incident he would use a person's you know perceived pronouns like Blair White for instance Blair White to like the average person looks like a woman and so.
Ben Shapiro made the point.
If you go to a restaurant and you said, yeah, we have a table over by him, they'd be like, where?
You'd be like, by him?
You can't point to someone with breasts and long hair and say him and have the average person understand what you're talking about.
So Ben Shapiro said, I would just say by her because it's easier.
However, in writing, I would say him.
And I'm actually coming to agree much, much more with Ben Shapiro on this one for this reason.
And with all due respect, I'm not trying to pick on Leo Baker, because I have no beef.
But this matters, because this is something that happened when Leo, who was born Lacey, changed their name, came out as trans.
If I were to say, Leo Baker won X Games Gold.
He has secured three X Games, or one X Games Gold, or X Games Gold, and he has secured two LA World Championship Street Medals.
You're imagining a man competing against the world's best men.
And so, on Wikipedia, on Wikipedia it says, he won best athlete, he won, you know, it's crazy to see, like, When someone writes, he won great skater of the year or like greatest skater for like this, whatever, you don't realize that they've created a special women's category.
And that if you said she won the top skater, you in your mind picture a woman and what that might mean.
They change language on purpose to erase merit, accolades, et cetera.
If I told you, Somebody, you know, John, won the X Games gold three times.
He's considered one of the best skateboarders in the world.
You're thinking...
Like, Jinwoo level, like that kid's crazy.
But then if I said she, you instantly know in your mind several degrees less than the male skateboarders and what that might be.
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You know when it's the worst?
When, uh, there's like a news story or any sort of coverage about someone who identifies as trans is when it's someone who murders or rapes somebody and they say, this woman committed this terrible murder this woman raped this other woman like no this was a man well hold on i gotta tell you what the future is going to be and that's what happened with that recent story and there's like a few sorry there was like a few trans identifying people that like did like
Mass shootings or whatever.
And then as soon as they found out the person was trans, like they don't report on it anymore.
Once the pod technology for growing life happens, it's over.
Women are over.
Women will become an absolute minority.
This is just like a dystopian view of what may happen.
It starts with they invent the pods and they made a movie about this where like these busy business women on their way to a business meeting have to decide whether they're going to have a baby themselves or get the pod.
And so they get the pod and the pod is like holding the baby and they put it in a closet.
And then as it starts happening, people are then going to start asking questions, privately among themselves, do we want a boy or a girl?
And the families are going to keep saying boys, more and more, not 100%.
There's going to be a man and woman, they're going to be like, no, we want a girl, like, you know, we'd like to have a boy and a girl.
But for a variety of reasons, because of the, because of wokeness, if this persists, You're going to get a man and a woman and they're going to say, look, I know, you know, you really wanted a daughter, but do we really want to create someone who's so disadvantaged in this patriarchy?
And she's going to go, you're right.
A son would be better.
We'll have a son.
And the other issue is there's going to be And then you can reproduce and then they have- No, we make them in bags.
So it's gonna be like two to one, guys to women.
Sports is all gonna be men.
There's gonna be very few women.
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The ultimate state control over- Yup, corporations control the ability to reproduce.
Everyone's genetically engineered when they're born or something like that.
But then Ethan Hawke's character was a natural birth, so he's got like- he's considered inferior and a second-class citizen.
That's where we're going.
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I hope we don't get there, but I'm not convinced that we won't.
I think though, even like surrogacy, it kind of weirds me out, the whole like, women are this object that are selling themselves to make babies for people.
Well, there was that crazy story where the two gay guys hired a surrogate, and when they found out she had cancer or whatever, they were like, kill the baby, kill it, and she was like, no, I don't wanna.
And they were like, no, get rid of it, and they made her abort the baby.
but we're going to get to a point women don't even need to be baby machines they'll press flush they'll go like flush I changed my mind I'm just going to use the pod they even did something to some parents recently where the state took the kid away basically kidnapped the kid because the parents wouldn't go along with identifying I've heard multiple stories of this yeah
Yup, and then once everyone gets the Neuralink, and everyone just, like Twitter is almost to that point, but once everyone's brains are wired into it, you're the, it's the Borg.
Yeah, it's four grand and it's creepy and stupid, but you know, we buy a bunch of new tech and we tried a bunch of toys.
We bought drones before and we're going to try this one out.
unidentified
I mean, it does seem cool, but like when you start thinking about the black mirror aspect of it, where they actually just want you to be like living in, in the headset, like you have to be able to like disconnect from it.
But you look at the heroin, opium epidemic, they're going to replace that with Oculus or something or Apple Vision Pro or who knows.
And then people are going to live in their fake little worlds because it feels good.
Already, have you seen like the AI girlfriends?
No.
I think it should be illegal right now.
I'm not even kidding.
Like we should ban AI companion programs right now, the way we regulate other things.
Shuwan had did this video about it when it's when it first started a few like it was like a year ago all it was was like a very short animation of a female or male but I think mostly female and then text.
Now it's actually the most dis- aw dude I hate I hate the CG like- And then you buy the doll and then you implement the- Yeah.
- I don't know why they would think that's not the case.
I mean, there's a browser in it, isn't there? - I don't know. - They said VR porn. - We'll find out.
unidentified
First thing we'll do when the Apple Vision Pro gets here is we'll try to open up some porn. - Twitter is basically a porn website anyway. - Oh, I hate how much porn is on there.
Like I'll see it in comments on my post, just like bots and stuff.
I don't know if they're all bots, but you'd think that that would be filtered out.
Because is Twitter X like 18 and up?
Nope.
So younger people can get on there and this stuff is just available.
It won't show it, but all you have to do is hit like the button and it shows.
I think they should, anybody who posts porn should be criminally charged the same way anybody who walks into downtown waving a big porn sign should be.
unidentified
Yeah, you're posting it in a place that minors can access it.
If a dude took a big poster board and put porn on it and walked around, they'd take it from you, destroy it, then you'd get arrested.
I mean, cops might just be like, stop, what are you doing?
But they'd probably get arrested for, like, serious sex offenses.
unidentified
Yeah.
It's definitely very blatant on the internet.
And I mean, I guess any, like, a minor could go on the internet and search that up, so perhaps porn sites should have more, like, safeguarding to have to prove your age to get onto it.
A big story about how they knew they were profiting off of trafficking.
Actually, we talked about it last week with some journalists who Got some undercover footage from employees who are like, they know what they're doing, they know what's going on, and they don't care.
And now there's like some criminal charges, but for the most part, the company gets away with it.
I mean, OnlyFans, for sure.
Like, OnlyFans requires you to have an ID and to prove your age.
unidentified
Yeah, and there's a paywall and... Doesn't matter though, because... Dude.
There was one instance where a woman, right when she turned 18, like at midnight, had a bunch of posts up.
And everyone immediately was like, that's her when she was a minor.
Nobody cares.
unidentified
Yep.
Speaking of grooming and back to skateboarding, you ever see those posts about the skate camp and stories?
Would we?
Yeah.
Lately?
I'm not trying to burn bridges but they put me on the do not rehire list anyway.
Did we?
Yeah.
About what?
It was like 15 years ago but like I was a camper and a counselor but I like rolled my ankle and I didn't want to stay for like the last week and I just left the last week and I'm like one day like I showed up one weekend with my because my friend's girlfriend was working there like this was after that happened or I left whatever like a different year and then I uh went there showed up they're like oh yeah like I remember you like you can't really be here because you
You weren't, like, announced?
Like, your friend JJ was announced, like, he could be here.
His girlfriend said he was gonna be here.
There's too many kids here, blah, blah, blah.
But, like, if you want to come back next week, we'll hire you.
So I didn't get the call.
And I'm like, call them back.
And they're like, yeah, I don't know.
Like, you were, like, on the do not rehire list.
Wow.
But then they're over here, like, knowing that someone, like, had sexual relationships with a minor.
Now, is that true?
Because I heard the story, but I didn't know all the details.
You'd think that as a business, the first thing you would do is get rid of that person, distance yourself, and make it clear that this was a horrific thing that happened.
Did this world ever exist where you could, like, send your kids to summer camp with smiles on their faces and not have to worry about someone, like, you know, raping them or something?
unidentified
I went to summer camp as a kid, and it was chill.
I definitely went to Woodward as a camper.
I didn't go to Woodward, I just went to a regular overnight camp, but they never had anything like this happening.
Yeah, there was like a couple articles written about me because I said some Christians, the woke and some Christians got mad because a bunch of, I said that if everyone on the planet was like devout Christian, you would have no need for police or military or anything.
And then immediately a bunch of these leftists were like, oh, as if the Christians didn't kill people and blah, blah, blah.
And it's just like, dude, I'm talking about if they actually all agreed on all of the morals, why?
Yeah, that's it.
You wouldn't need any of it because everyone's like marching in lockstep with each other.
It's when people start challenging each other's ideals and ideologies and way of life.
So if someone doesn't actually follow a moral ideology and they believe they have a right to steal, Well then they're going to be in conflict with the people they steal from.
But if people actually were devout and followed, thou shalt not steal, there'd be no stealing.
But then I blamed Christians for what's happening right now with all of this bad stuff.
Because I said that it's tolerant Christians, because this country was 100% Christian.
And they were all like, we will accept that.
Okay, fine, we'll accept that.
And they kept tolerating people they thought... It's a slippery slope, right?
Yeah, they were like, you know, we're going to be nice, good people.
And we're going to tolerate this man who's a little different from us.
And then they opened the gates that have inch by inch now, you get communists in your institutions.
unidentified
Yeah.
It is a slippery slope because it's completely different to live amongst, be friends with, and be able to work with or do things with people you disagree with on certain things, but you're doing your own thing, living your own lives.
And then tolerance has gotten to a point that we're actually just standing by while evil is happening in front of us.
And I think that the people who know it's wrong and have these values really have to stand up against it.
There's more of us than there are of them.
Yeah, it's just like when they see the one person that does speak up and then they get, like, canceled or, like, ostracized or, like, things taken away from them and they're like, dang, like, I don't want that to happen to me.
But it's like, if enough people start talking about it, like, they're out there.
They're rooting for you silently.
It's just like the more people that do it, it's like, The less it's gonna happen.
And we've gotten to a point now that people actually get a lot of support for speaking out.
Exactly.
Like, Tim, when you first talked to me, you told me how, like, you wanted me to come out here, possibly start working here, and you wanted to help out whistleblowers.
And I was thinking, like, man, that was, like, unheard of at the time.
I'd only heard of people losing their jobs and, like, having their lives almost ruined.
Because it's, it's, it's, we're on, we're on the legal offensive on this one.
Mark Cuban publicly stated that he uses sex and gender in his hiring practices.
That's illegal.
unidentified
That and, like, didn't, uh, what's that, what's that dude, James O'Keefe, like, he, like, confronted him or whatever.
Oh, James O'Keefe.
And then, like, the dude that, like, His, like, bodyguard or whatever, like, basically attacked James O'Keefe.
And then, like, I happen to... Just O'Keefe.
I kind of like O'Keefe, though.
O'Keefe, my bad.
The extra E. But, uh, basically, like, the bodyguard, like, on his story was talking about his, like, anti-bullying and, like, how he helps with all these anti-bullying, like, campaigns or, like, whatever it might be.
And then on his story, simultaneously, he's bullying James O'Keefe.
You, he's got a bunch of companies and every single employee for all these companies now have grounds to sue him if they perceive any discrimination because he admitted he discriminates.
So let's, like, the floodgates are open, baby.
This is it.
unidentified
It sucks because I like Shark Tank and it's just, you know, all these people end up sucking.
You've got these people who are like, the climate change activists are saying, If the government goes, if we tax you enough, we can change the weather.
And then they're like, ah, the government thinks that paying, people think paying the government money will make the government change the weather.
Then many of these same people go, the government controls the weather with HAARP up in Alaska.
And I'm like, which is it?
Can you pay them to change the weather?
Or are they taking your taxpayer dollars and literally changing the weather?
unidentified
It's like, they're not self-aware of their own contradictions.
Antarctica is split up between I think it's like 11 countries and so there are reasons why you can't go in certain areas and it's because it's like saying, why can't I just walk into Russia?
Why won't Russia let me just walk in?
What's up with that?
Conspiracy.
unidentified
The Antarctic Treaty is a group of countries that are all...
Dude, it's just crazy to me because it was like, I don't know, it was like 10 or 15 years ago, I had a friend who was like, oh, I'm getting on a cargo ship to go to Antarctica.
I'm like, cool.
And they walked around and they, like, no one told them what to do, but then they had to leave to get back on the boat before the boat left.
Otherwise they die.
Like, you can't just like stay in a barren wasteland unless you're eating penguin, I guess.
unidentified
I don't totally want to discredit myself right now, but like, I don't know if the earth is round or flat because I can't see it.
Like, I can't go into space and see it for myself.
And, you know, but this one make, it makes sense right here with all these base general, uh, where's, I don't know where McMurdo is, because it's close to, to Argentina and Chile.
So that's obvious.
It's just, it's the craziest thing that like all these people believe you can't go there and never even tried to go there.
They just, you just read it on the internet.
So you believe you can't go there.
And then meanwhile, I was like 19.
My friend's like, Oh, I'm going to Antarctica.
I was like, Oh, how are you doing?
And like, you can charter one of the cargo ships that goes down for deliveries.
You ride their boat, you land there, they're there all day unloading.
And then when they're done, you got to come back.
Otherwise you're like, you're going to die.
And, and people are like, why, why won't they let you stay there?
Why, why can't you go to Mount Everest?
Because there's corpses everywhere.
You need to get special permission to go to Everest.
And when you do climb it, there's corpses just everywhere.
And then someone's got to clean that corpse up.
unidentified
You probably got to like condition yourself too to even like survive in that type of condition.
I'm like, you could buy your ticket right now for March and go to Bali.
I was like, I thought it was going to be- And it's probably cheap there to eat and it's probably cheap there to- And you thought it was going to be thousands of dollars and cost them like 10 grand or whatever.
And I was like, you never even Googled it, dude.
unidentified
So, like, how bad did you even really want to go?
You just want to feel bad for yourself and pretend that it's impossible for you.
Here's what I love, too, because, like, I told Alex Stein, I will fund your expedition.
Like, let's go, baby!
And he said, they only ever go on one specific route or whatever.
And I'm like, dude.
It is not a government conspiracy to cover up the firmament or aliens or hollow earth.
It is that it costs an insane amount of money to do something that doesn't really matter to the individual and you have to get permits from all of these countries to travel within all of their territory.
And the question then becomes, for what purpose do you want to fly just straight over Antarctica?
Okay, contact all of them to fly in their airspace where they're doing research and get permission and do it.
unidentified
Alex just doesn't want to go out in the cold, he likes that Texas heat.
I want to send him, it's going to be really funny because I'll send him down there.
But the funny thing is, it's not hard to get to Antarctica.
I was just talking to somebody recently, I can't remember who it was, they were just there.
And who was it?
They were over here and they were saying that the funny thing is, most people don't realize that penguins are living in like two inches of their own shit.
Alright, well start googling it and then we'll see what happens.
And then I'll tell you this, if for some reason When you get down there, a bunch of soldiers come and turn you around.
We'll get it on video and... Because that's what they're saying.
That's what Alex was saying.
It's like, you get to a certain point and then like... A giant ship?
No, like secret alien... I don't know what the idea is.
Like government agents from the global, you know, order or whatever will stop you from going into their Antarctic base or something?
unidentified
I've just seen videos where they're like, oh this giant ship gets on the announcer and they're like, turn around, you can't come here, but um, that could be fake.
What do you think happens if you were to get in a car and like, drive up to say, NORAD?
There would be a loud megaphone saying, turn your vehicle around now.
I knew, uh, when I was over at, uh, do you guys know North American Aerospace Defense?
I don't think they use, I don't know if they use it anymore as much as they used to.
But, story I heard when I was at Fort Carson in Colorado, which is Colorado Springs, which is basically base housing for NORAD, is that one of the, like, enlisted guys, I think he might have been like a non-commissioned officer or something, Took a wrong turn towards NORAD, and he's in the army.
And then, like, a bunch of guys with rifles came out, pointed at the car, saying, stop, turn around now.
So, like, you see these videos where a boat's coming up to a military research station, and someone says, turn around.
Uh-huh.
unidentified
Yeah, that could be anything.
I mean, of course, I mean, I'm not validating it, but, uh, that's the only thing that I've seen that's even remotely- Yeah, it's like, you wanna- you wanna go to a military base, you gotta get permission.
I just assume everyone thinks I'm fucking with him, but... So the argument is like, if you go into the ocean, you can go around the firmament, or what?
Yeah, it's like a super saline dense and even that's the plot of the Meg movie is that like nobody this Megalodon is like behind this like super dense water that you can't really get through but it breaks through this like whatever barrier giant shark gets through the super saline.
Well, so, LGBT, bisexual is in there, because originally it was like, if you're a lesbian, you're the one who likes women, if you're gay, you're a guy who likes guys, and if you're bi, you're either who likes both.
But then when they started saying there's infinite genders, they had to create a new word because bi means two.
unidentified
Well, wouldn't saying you're bisexual make you like transphobic or non-binary phobic in that case?
But if we're really going to the point where you can just make anything you want up, then I can say, I can redefine whatever I want to define if people want to make words up.
You know what I mean?
So anyway, any final thoughts?
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Just live your life.
Stop bothering people.
No one cares how you live your life.
Just stop forcing people to believe what you believe.
Let people just live their lives too.
Live and let live.
And then people could just coexist.
Stop forcing shit down people's throat.
And then when they don't, Believe what you believe trying to like cancel them and be the person that you say that you like you hate.
Well that was the thing we were talking about Shredder News or whatever and you were like oh they always post and they seem to you know be on the kinder side.
When will they be online?
Sorry.
Yeah the boards maybe a couple months.
No idea.
Yeah.
It's probably gonna be a couple months.
They're in production right now and as soon as they're finished we can get them online and for sale.
But like the next day after they posted the good thing about you, the next day they posted some super old Wecking ball thing that's like, Weck says that you're not pro if you... No, no, that was a good one.
