The Culture War #27 - Dating, Masculinity, Men's Issues & Marriage w/Fresh & Fit, Jason Howerton
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We're gonna be talking about men, dating, masculinity, marriage, and we've got a couple of really interesting gentlemen hanging out to have this discussion.
Fresh and Fit, one of the most controversial podcasts on the internet.
We talk about a bunch of things, whether it's making money, how to date properly in a modern day world, getting in shape, getting your fitness on point, and just becoming a better man in general.
The number one male self-approved podcast in the world.
Oh, Myron Gaines, former special agent on Homeland Security Investigations.
I did that for approximately 10 years, then transitioned over to the content creation side, had a fitness business.
And then I realized, wow, guys need help with getting girls as well.
So we kind of You know, encompass all of that and help guys become better so that they can become more attractive and just live the life that they want.
unidentified
Right on.
And I'm Fresh.
Freshman CEO.
Island boy from a small island.
Came here with big dreams.
Started a podcast with Myron about dating, lifestyle success.
I'm a boring dad business owner who really, you know, my family is my life.
I run a business, a digital agency where I do pretty well working with creators and influencers.
And then I also have a high value dad, which is basically a network trying to help dads become better, Birds of themselves as dads, as leaders in their businesses, all that kind of stuff.
And so, um, you know, that's really my mission right now, even more so than the business, um, is really trying to help fathers discover kind of who they are and who they need to be to be the best leaders for their families.
Because I, you know, people are, people get off track in this modern society.
So there, there is some overlap, but I would say our philosophies are a little different, but I'm excited about it.
Young men, this is an interesting point, there was this data that came out a few years ago that shows men under 30 are increasingly staying virgins.
They're not having sex.
Now, the funny thing about that is I was talking to Seamus Coghlan, and he, when I brought this up, he's Christian, conservative, very Catholic.
He goes, BASED.
And I was like, BASED?
And he's like, because on the surface, it's like, oh, young men not having sex is a good thing.
And I'm like, no, no, no, no.
The Christian conservative's perspective should be it's a bad thing.
The liberal perspective should be it's a bad thing.
And the conservative view should be these men should be married.
And they should not be virgin, they should be married with a wife and having children and they're 29 years old and they've never had a real relationship.
So, just in general, outside of that, we see all this stuff, toxic masculinity, we hear stories about men in crisis, suicide rates are going way, way up.
Whoever wants to kick it off, what's going on and why is there an issue with men right now?
unidentified
You want to kick it off first?
I mean, for the most part, guys nowadays want to have a lifestyle where they have women, of course, you know, the cars, you know, the job, the career.
But for the most part, guys nowadays are struggling because girls, once again, want a dominant, successful guy that has their shit together.
But men, I guess, for the most part, are kind of like subduing to, I want to say, the TV stations that they watch, you know, what they hear on the radio waves, what they see in like, you know, movies.
And it's more like, Men are not becoming men like they should be.
And you could blame it on technology, social media, whatever you want to blame it on, men are not becoming men.
Women are becoming more masculine.
And I feel like for the most part, you look at women today, they're in school, getting careers, getting high paying jobs, and they want a man that's more dominant than them.
What does it mean to be a man in the philosophical sense?
I guess.
unidentified
Correct.
Yeah.
I think most people can define it a different way, but I would say what a man is to me is a man that has family as a main priority, has as well a good stance on, for example, having a foundation of success, which means monetary gain, and then I would say as well has the integrity and leadership skills that most people want to have.
Okay, yeah, that's fair.
And so, okay, so this is what I would say, is that for men today, They're getting a lot of conflicting messages on what they should be doing, right?
You have one faction that is telling them that their masculinity is toxic, that it's sexist to open doors for a woman, and all these things.
Equally as bad.
And then there's kind of another faction that is telling them a couple of different conflicting messages.
One is to You know, abstain from from doing some of the things that are traditionally are masculine, like you being aggressive in your career, growing as a, you know, as a professional.
And then there's another faction that says, you know, I'm just going to be blunt about it, like, for lack of a better way to phrase it, like, get money and bang bitches, basically.
That's kind of like what I see across the internet of this masculinity.
I mean, that's a good start, though.
Okay.
Wouldn't you say?
Get money is a good start if you're trying to build a foundation for yourself as a man, absolutely.
I would argue with the bang bitches part.
I'm not here to be the Puritan at all.
I'm not like the morality police saying sex is bad or like don't have sex with women.
Not at all what I'm saying.
What I'm saying is that When you become a man, when you're out of college and you need to start charting your path to become a functioning man in society.
And ideally you want to be a high value man, right?
You want to become something of substance.
Your goal should be to meet and engage with women in a healthy way.
And if that results in, you know, mutual sexual behavior, great.
Do your thing.
But in my opinion, in your head, you should know that what you're working towards is to build a family.
Because there is, I don't think you even become a man in the real sense until you have a family.
It changes you in ways that I can't really even describe.
Like, it turns you into a different version of yourself to where your entire life you're focused internally, On, on what you want and, and, and chasing pleasure and chasing, you know, various things.
When you have a family, it completely flips that inside out and you become a selfless protector provider of your clan.
And so dating should be in pursuit of that.
I'm not saying it should happen instantly.
Maybe it takes you five years of dating and maybe a lot of sex happens and it's great.
Like sex is great.
It's fun.
It's cool.
But this idea that, that you, You know, get it out of your system and you just have sex with a bunch of women as you're, you know, figuring out what you want to be in your life, I think, is more dangerous than people think.
From a brain chemistry standpoint, what you're kind of training yourself to become long-term, I don't think people think about those implications.
I think the family is the cornerstone of every thriving society.
Nuclear family is absolutely needed.
We believe in a nuclear family.
We don't tell people to not pursue nuclear family.
However, Pursuing a nuclear family in today's day and age without prerequisite experience is extremely dangerous given what you're up against.
So we tell guys is because you asked earlier, what does it mean?
I think obviously duty, purpose, leadership, strength, integrity, and the ability to provision, right?
And when you have all these traits together, you're going to be a good, you could be a good father.
But what I want guys is to be in a position where They've experienced women, they understand women, and now they're coming to that choice on their own, right?
And they're deciding to do that versus being forced into it, pressured into it, etc.
Because the things that were in place before to make family an appealable pursuit for a majority of men are no longer there.
I'll explain what I mean by this.
Thanks to feminism, social media, the modern day world that we have now where we live in what I call a uber eats type society where instant gratification is a thing.
Women have changed and women have changed significantly.
Not only have they changed, they've changed to a point where It's no longer in their best interest to stay within the confinements of a marriage.
Now, even though I believe in marriage, right?
Contrary to popular belief, people think that we just tell guys to run around and have sex with women.
No!
We tell them, have sex with women so that you're in a position to pick the best woman.
Because unfortunately, most women don't come pre-assembled.
Back in the 1950s, etc., we had religion, we had society shame, we had the fear of God, etc.
All these things were training wheels that kept women in line to be good, dutiful mothers, daughters, sisters, etc.
But these conventions are gone.
What do we have now?
We have a modern-day society where we tell women to be promiscuous.
We tell women to go get your bag, girl.
We tell women to go on OnlyFans.
We tell women to make money by any means necessary regardless of if it destroys their image.
So, what I'm saying is that I need guys to adapt to the new normal, and that's why I tell guys, hey, you have to have certain things in place, and I think a guy shouldn't even think about getting serious with women unless he's had sex with at least 50 partners.
Now, even though that sounds crazy, the reason why I say that is because women nowadays are more promiscuous than ever before, and if a guy isn't in a position to be able to identify women that are worthy of a serious relationship, well, he's gonna get taken to the cleaners, because most women have more experience with opposite gender than men do.
If I told you you have a boxing match in five years and your opponent's gonna be training every single day and knocking people out, would you train or would you just sit in the house lethargic?
You'd probably train, correct?
But what most guys effectively do is they sit in the house, they don't go out there and talk to more women, they don't understand female nature, they don't know how the world really works when it comes to dating and intersexual dynamics.
They go into that boxing match with that person that's been training for a while and they get beat up.
Why do they get beat up?
Because women get training, what I mean by this is experience with opposite gender, as soon as they hit puberty.
Men are hitting at them all the time, men are telling them how to, men are trying to court them, etc.
So women become very good at figuring out what the opposite gender wants, leveraging that to their advantage and able to extract resources, time, attention, etc.
And most guys don't have the skills to deal with that.
It absolutely is in the best interest of men and women to have a marriage going, but society pressures women in other ways and offers them... They're rewarded.
Yeah, there's certain rewards like OnlyFans, which I'll just come out and say, like, OnlyFans is prostitution.
It's just the digital version of modern prostitution.
It's one thing to say that there's, like, porn on the internet.
You know, someone does that.
You know, people have made the argument it's digital prostitution, but there's no actual engagement between the individual.
OnlyFans, literally, you, like, the men will message the woman who provide a menu of items, and then they will then pay them specifically to engage in an act.
And I just want to say real quick, like I gave a very overall and general sense of what's going on in dating marketplace and intersexual dynamics between the two genders.
I'm happy to go into each one more specifically, but what I meant in that regard was women are not incentivized to keep the marriage going.
Once they reach a certain threshold, maybe five years, 10 years, depending on the state.
Well, it's cheaper for me to just like, or I'm going to be in a better situation if I divorce him.
Get the money, leave, get the child support, get the alimony, whatever it may be.
So women don't have the same incentives that they used to have to keep marriages going.
That's why women initiate 80% of divorces in the West.
unidentified
Okay.
So, so part of my issue is a lot of this is we're speaking in generalizations, right?
So like, and I think sure, but I think just like anything else, I think your experiences or your, your opinions are based on your experiences and what you've learned throughout your life and, and.
I would push back to say at least telling men as a general rule that those things are true, I don't think you're doing them justice.
Well, number one, that women are not, you know, there are not women out there who are incentivized to, like, when you build a family, With a woman, and it should be very selective.
You should be very, very careful of who you decide to start a family with.
But that's my whole purpose is to say most women are not necessarily going to be in that position to be worthy of a relationship, so you have to be extremely selective.
unidentified
It doesn't require you to sleep with 50 women to get to that point.
But okay, let's say it's not just a lot of people.
That is a lot of women to sleep with.
60.
40.
We don't know, but generally speaking, 50 could be 5.
When I say 50, I'm not saying you're at, you know, 41.
Hey, you found the right one.
Hey, man, no, you still got to do nine more, dude.
You got to keep going.
That's not a steadfast number.
But what I am saying is, in general, right, 50 is going to put you in a position.
What I'm more What I'm interested in for the guy is to have the correct mindset to assess female character and to understand female nature.
And I know at around 50, you have some semblance of how women move because the thing is that a lot of guys don't understand that men and women are really different in how they approach relationships, how they view the world, how they deal with their emotions, etc.
Most guys think women are like guys.
They're not.
They're completely different.
And I want guys to have an understanding, a fundamental understanding of female nature before they get into something as serious as a marriage where the woman can absolutely destroy them because she has all the cards once you're married.
The other thing too is the reason why I want guys to have that sex is because for men to be good with women and to pick the right girl, they need to have something, what I call an abundance mindset.
And we don't have an abundance mindset and you're operating from a scarcity mindset.
Any girl that throws you sex or gives you some type of intimacy, you're like, Oh, I'm going to commit to her.
So I want guys to Know what it's like to already have had sex with women.
Understand that it's not that special.
I need them to get desensitized to it to a degree where they're able to assess the woman on her character versus her sexuality.
So many guys make the cardinal mistake of, she's hot.
She's great in bed.
I'm going to commit to her.
Not knowing that she's crazy.
She's not a good candidate for a long-term relationship and they get taken to the cleaner.
So I just want guys to have an abundance mindset.
And a lot of times when a guy isn't sexually experienced, but the girl is sexually experienced, it comes back to what I said before.
If you're going to go into that boxing ring, With someone that's been training for the past 10 years and they know how to deal with the opposite gender and you don't.
Well, she's going to finesse you.
She's going to say all the right things.
Oh my God, I've never felt like this before with a guy.
You're not going to know how to defend against that when you don't have the same sexual experience as a woman.
unidentified
You have to understand that the advice that you're giving, you can be nuanced with it.
on a long-form podcast like this, but the advice that you're giving, most men are going to internalize that and think, especially young men, that the goal is sex.
That's the tunnel vision goal, is to have sex with a lot of women.
That's what we need to do.
And so I don't know if you've ever thought about What happens from a brain chemistry standpoint when you have something as high something with as extreme of a dopamine response as sex when that becomes your primary driving factor of what you're trying to accomplish.
Um, and you say you, you accomplish that repeatedly over years and say over five years, your, your goal is to meet as many women and have sex with as many women as possible.
But that's the end of the goal.
Like I want to meet women.
I want to learn how to engage with women.
I want to have sex with women.
What you're doing is you're training your brain from a, you can't get past this.
You could replace this with anything.
You replace it with cocaine.
You can replace it with any addictive behavior of what happens in the brain.
It's going to imprint on your brain that behavior that when you engage in that behavior and that pursuit, You're going to get this big, once you finally achieve it, this big dopamine spike, big, big, big.
And then you're going to get a big dopamine crash below baseline.
And over time, what you're doing is you're training your brain and you really, at some point, it's more subconscious than anything else, that that is the pursuit that you must engage in to get that feeling Whatever you want to call it, that feeling of accomplishment, of what you would think is happiness, which is not happiness.
It's fleeting happiness.
But that becomes then the pattern that is imprinted on your brain.
And to get out of that, I'm talking about neural pathways that bond very strongly.
And to get out of that, you have to physically rewire your brain.
And so my concern with this advice is that by the time the men are ready to settle down, to have kids, to be the best, what I think, I'll die on this hill, being a dad and having a family, there's nothing in the world that will ever be as satisfying or give you the feeling of accomplishment and purpose in your life, period.
I'll die on that hill every day.
And by the time they're ready to do that, In order for them to get into that state and not still be in this cycle of needing to get that dopamine hit that they've been trained to get over years and years, you have to rewire your entire brain.
And that takes time and it's hard.
Trust me, it's hard.
It's really hard to do.
And so that results, in my opinion, that's infidelity in marriages, it's divorces, it's fatherless homes, which then creates a whole nother cycle Over and over again of this same cycle of chasing pleasure over purpose.
If you're chasing purpose and along the way you're having sex and meeting women and becoming good with women, but your purpose is focused.
And it almost feels like you're almost there, but there's just some parts of it that I don't fully agree with, but that's the secret.
It has to be driven by purpose.
Yeah, I want to break something up, but- You make a very good point, and I understand that.
But I could argue as well, if I stick with one woman, right?
Multiple times, I wouldn't say during a period of like a relationship, isn't that the same thing?
And as well, let's say... It's not the same thing.
Why?
Because it's, it's, you're, you're pair bonding, you're, it's, it's not, you're, you're, you're pair bonding and you're building a relationship unless you're, you know, you're just using them for sex, then it's, yeah, sure.
Maybe it's the same thing.
But if you're with a person and you have a intention of building a life with that person and you're pair bonding and you're, Learning how to communicate effectively and you're doing all the things to build yourself up as to become the leader of a family and the leader of that unit.
It's not the same thing.
So I'm with that person, but I don't know from experience if she's good for me or not.
And as a result, I made that choice not knowing.
So I'll ask you a question, right?
When you go to buy a car, I'm not saying a woman, a car, I'll give you an example here.
When you go to buy a car, right?
What do you do first when you buy the car?
You go to your salesman, talk to him about the car, test drive it, and you go buy it.
I'm just saying for most men, sex is a goal, but not the NLB goal.
It's a part of the equation.
I'm just saying have that as a part of your repertoire so when you meet the woman, all right, sex is good.
She's good as a person, as an individual, good family, good to be a mother.
All right, full package.
I have a choice here that this is a good woman for me.
And for you to be able to come to that, you know, rationally sound and logically sound conclusion that this girl is the right one, you have had to have dealt with a bunch of women that might have not been the right one.
And what I'm saying is that in today's day and age, Most women are not worthy of a long-term relationship.
So guys need to be able to vet women correctly.
Otherwise, they're the ones that take all the risks.
So I get what you're saying where you're saying like, hey, this might be destructive, but sex doesn't affect men the same way it affects women with pair bonding and having high partners.
There's plenty of guys that can go ahead, have a bunch of women and then go ahead and decide, you know what?
I want to settle down now because at the end of the day, men are the ones that pick who they commit to.
unidentified
That's just not true.
You're true you're right about the pair bonding aspect, but it's not true from a brain chemistry standpoint when you It's it's just science and like I wish like Andrew Huberman was here He could explain it much better than I can but like you can't get away from the brain mechanisms of what I'm talking about when you are casual sex that is that is not You're based in a relationship.
You're just, you have sex with a woman tonight.
You have sex with a woman tomorrow night, whatever.
And I'm sure you guys do really well.
You're wealthy guys.
You're good looking guys.
Like I'm sure you guys clean up well, but like, but that behavior.
Men and women have to have sex with each other for the most part.
If men are not having sex at all and women are having sex, obviously there's a point to be made about maybe the women are having sex with each other or something like that, but I don't think that's a large component of what we're seeing here.
I think the issue is the women mostly are still having sex at comparable levels to what they've always done.
Men not having sex is skyrocketing.
That says that these women, they're having sex with a particular group of men and- Boom.
You got it.
So here's what I think.
I think a portion of men are being slowly removed from the dating pool.
I'm really glad you brought this up because that plays a huge role as to what women think they deserve.
Unfortunately, a woman that's average looking to maybe a little above average looking has the same sexual marketplace value and pull as a guy that's damn near a celebrity.
Why?
Because of the advent of the internet, Instagram, etc.
An average girl can hang out with extraordinary men.
That plays a huge role in their psyche of what they think they deserve and the type of man that they think they're capable of attracting.
But what they make the mistake of doing is they think, just because I can attract this guy doesn't necessarily mean they can retain that guy.
But that plays a huge role because girls think they deserve best.
If you ask an average woman, What do you want?
She's going to describe to you an exceptional man.
And that's been heightened even more so thanks to feminism.
Women earn their own money.
They have their own status.
They have their own cars.
They have their own ability provision for themselves.
So since they're able to get all these things themselves, they no longer need a dutiful, responsible, leadership-driven man because they're like, "Yo, I just want the hot guy I can provision for myself.
Let me ask you this, right?
If you had a hot girl that was with you at all times, that would give you fellatio, she was hot, she'll give you sex whenever you want, et cetera.
Would you seriously go out there on dates with women that you didn't like like that or tolerate the BS?
No, you wouldn't.
You'd be like, get out of here.
I don't want to deal with you.
But that's how women are with their jobs and their money.
Women effectively have their own provisioning, so they don't need to deal with the majority of men.
So therefore they only want to deal with the top 10 men.
The top 10, top 20% of men.
This is why so many guys are out of the sexual marketplace.
It's the same situation if you had a bad chick with you at all times.
You would not tolerate female BS.
You wouldn't.
That's how women feel about their jobs.
unidentified
And to add to this point as well, with the advent of social media, if you look at Instagram per se, I would say that's the biggest dating app in the world because in the back pocket of Instagram, DMs, women have access to a plethora of guys at their fingertips.
So it's like, okay, if he's not giving me what I want, if he's not a high-value leader, why do I want this guy?
And most guys are not that. - And a lot of guys that might share your values, which I agree with a thousand percent, will get overlooked because, oh, you're not attractive enough for me.
Oh, you don't have enough clout for me, blah, blah, blah.
And a lot of guys that are traditionally masculine, attractive guys, right, that might've been attractive 50, 60 years ago, they're overlooked because women want the bigger, better deal.
And they're like, ah, I don't care that you have these traits because I can do it myself.
So since they're doing that, it's what it's done is it's deregulated the sexual marketplace.
He's deregulated the dating marketplace.
Trust me.
I wish we could go back to traditional families like the 1950s.
I talk about this extensively, how the sexual marketplace has been ruined and we need to go back to how it was, but it never will be will.
And so what we tell guys is, look, you got to adapt to the new normal now.
With that said, I get what you're saying.
Promiscuity affects both genders negatively.
Yes, it does.
Men to not to the same extent as women.
However, guys need to go out there and get that experience and deal with these new women that are more promiscuous than ever before because the women are absolutely hooking up with guys.
unidentified
It is so bad that we have guys leaving America called passport bros to go abroad with girls.
If it wasn't that bad, they'd be here getting sex.
But what I want is I prefer guys to get their money on point, have sexual experience with women, become that guy, adhere to these traits, and then choose down the road.
You know what?
I'm ready for a family now.
I'm in a position where I can do it.
I have enough money.
I have enough status.
I understand female nature.
I'm in a position where my woman will respect me and follow my leadership, and then they can make that decision versus feeling pressured to do it in a new normal that isn't set up for them to win.
So yes, there's negatives on both sides, but I'd rather the guy make that decision himself versus getting into a marriage and potentially losing everything. - But then wouldn't the solution be to be a passport bro? - Well, a lot of guys are taking that, Let me clarify though.
There's a multitude of reasons why guys go, right?
Some guys go there to just hook up.
Some guys go there to find a girlfriend.
Some guys go there because the cost of living is lower.
There's a multitude of different reasons.
But the bottom line, it seems like the common denominator here is that women in the West in general typically are less marriageable than they were 50, 60 years ago.
unidentified
And we're not saying they're not good women here, because they are good women in America, 100%.
We're just saying, how do you know who's good for you, who's not?
You must have experience.
I think you've got the process a little backwards, is how I feel about it.
I think you need to decide the kind of man you want to be.
You need to map out your life and the type of man that you want to be, and the type of woman that you want.
You need to know that for you, and you need to take steps to become that.
And as you become that, you naturally will attract The type of woman that you're trying to attract.
I don't think you gain much with casual sex.
Now again, it's not about like, I'm not saying sex is bad.
Sex is awesome.
And if you want to have sex as you're dating, as you filter out mates and who maybe you want to build a family with, that's great.
But the first step shouldn't be like, you got to date all these women, have sex with all these women to figure out what type of woman you want.
The first step is what kind of man do I want to be?
Here are some steps I need to take to become that, and what does the woman that I'm going to marry who's going to raise my children look like?
And then you actually have a roadmap to then go out when you're dating and get off the internet.
I feel like part of the problem here, obviously with this graph, it's porn, it's dating apps, it's social media, and I think it's completely skewed.
Everybody's vision of what the average woman looks like because the average women that you see on Instagram are not the average woman I'm just gonna say that and and I think men have lost the ability to just go into a coffee shop and pick up a woman and Get a number.
I know you're saying it is, but dude, there's... Let's take a look at, like, Gyms, for instance.
The meme.
There's a really, really funny video where it's a guy's lifting, curling or whatever, and then a woman walks onto the treadmill in front of him and his head spins all the way back around.
Because there are a ton of these videos where A guy's minding his own business and he becomes viral just because he says something like, hey, are you done lifting those?
And then she's like, how dare you talk to me?
And it's laughably insane.
That one where this woman is working out and one of the guys who works at the gym comes up and he's like, is everything okay, ma'am?
And she goes, excuse me?
And he's like, is there an issue?
And she goes, there's no problem.
Why are you talking to me?
He's like, ma'am, I work here.
And she's like, well, you can't tell me what to do.
That clip goes mad viral because it was comeuppance.
For a lot of these situations.
Let's put it this way.
Let's say, in only 1 out of 10, or 1 out of 50 instances, a guy walks up to a girl, very politely, and says, How do you do, ma'am?
You know, my name's, you know, Rick, and I could not but notice you shopping at this here bookstore, and I live in the area, I'm trying to make friends.
How does he know that he's not gonna end up with a viral clip, a picture taken, accusing him of being a rapist, a creep?
unidentified
I'll tell ya, I'll tell ya.
Because, again, I think this is another instance.
I think all of us are guilty of this, that we live too much on the internet.
And that a lot of our perspectives are influenced because we are so online all the time.
I'm with you on talking to women in person, by the way.
I agree, guys need to go out there and talk to women.
unidentified
And this all starts, by the way, With the fathers, right?
My sons will have absolutely no problem talking to women, being confident with women.
Like it all starts there.
And this is my whole mission of like, a lot of the problems that you're talking about are eliminated with present strong fathers who show their sons how to be confident, successful men and good leaders of the family.
A woman's goal is to sell you purity so that you commit to her.
The man's goal is to sell success so that he can give commitment to her to some degree if he finds her attractive.
I want guys to be able to detect if a girl is actually pure or not.
The only way you're going to be able to see a woman's character and her purity, because she's going to tell you a bunch of BS, you need to get out there and deal with girls.
You need to be able to pick up on certain red flags that you're only going to gain through dating experience and dealing with a multitude of women.
But you won't know the better.
unidentified
Dating and having sex with 50 women are different things.
How long would it take to date 50 people and have sex with them?
We're not saying that, but what I am saying is that the reason why I say 50 in general, and it's a very controversial take, is that if you go to a university, And there's more women going to college now than men, by the way.
These girls, I know girls that will get laid like 20 dudes in a semester easily, if not more.
So by the time a girl's, you know, done with Greek life, done with college, etc., going pursuing her master's degree or whatever it may be, a lot of these girls will have Double-digit body counts and I don't want guys to go into a situation where they have five bodies.
She has 50 bodies She's going ahead and selling impurity telling him what he wants to hear He doesn't know better because he hasn't dealt with enough women and then next thing, you know Aren't you aren't you contributing to the problem though by having sex with them?
If women are gonna have bazookas in the sexual marketplace, I'm gonna arm the guys with the bazookas.
unidentified
- I got you. - So fire with fire. - I got you.
Social media has already armed them, my friend.
TikTok, Instagram, there's no denying.
Yeah, you say get off of social media.
Bro, no one's getting off of it.
They're actually more in tune to it, and as well, from young ages.
So ultimately, they're being brainwashed by social media from the very beginning.
So at the dad, you can help counteract, but not all the way.
I think where we're becoming like, I say this ironically, arch enemies on this topic is like, You guys kind of seem like you want to exploit the current culture to the best of your ability.
I'm more of like a resist guy, and maybe that's naive of me, but I'm more like, fuck that, I'm resisting this new reality, and I want to create the type of men who are better than this.
You're giving the ideal, which I agree with, but I'm giving the real of what they really are dealing with.
These women are not the same, dude.
If it was 1953 and the girls came from a God-fearing household, they had their father in place, religion was a thing, shame was a thing, there was no social media, women actually were women and they were feminine and they weren't the masculine, butchering, ridiculous women that they are nowadays, I would tell you, Yes, let's do it.
But unfortunately, I cannot dispense that advice.
That is the equivalent to giving them a butter knife and telling them, go into this gunfight.
Okay, a guy who lives in a small town, rural area, who meets... Me.
Yeah, Jason, who is in church, and then there's a beautiful young woman, and then after church, as everyone's leaving, they're talking and everything, and they say, I want you to meet my niece.
She just moved into town.
She's from another small town.
You're not going to run into a hoe with 50 body counts, most likely in that scenario.
unidentified
You are right.
However, once again, this thing here called a cell phone permeates homes, bombshells, everything.
Because guess what?
That girl that's a small town girl, she might be beautiful, young, and purity wise, but on TikTok, her friends say to her on social media, come with us to Miami for a vacation, girl.
The moment she leaves, our guests on social media, it's a wrap.
Because guess what?
That whole, I want to say, agenda of, OK, I stick to one man, Family is great.
Once this gets into her hands, bro, you never know.
You never know.
Really?
Okay.
Here's the deal.
Here's the deal.
I would get, my wife doesn't know who y'all are.
Okay.
I would, I would give you her number today and give you as long as you wanted to try to infiltrate that with, with money.
Well, you can't do it with money, but with whatever. - He looks at his watch.
- I got one too!
I got one too! - He got that nice Rolex.
- I said, "Yo, I said, nice watch! I got one too!" - You can use whatever tools at your disposal, and I would bet you a million dollars a real offer And you picked a good one.
I feel like the advice that we're talking about right now is for the general population, which is debauchery, casual sex.
Okay, but I'm talking to I want to talk to the 1% of men who who are willing to you know However many women it doesn't matter the number of women that you have sex with Doesn't matter as long as you're in pursuit of that that purpose But I'm talking to this 1% of men who are willing to find the woman that I'm referring to when I talk about my wife of
To find her, to wait for her, to commit to her, and to do that without being sure enough in yourself as a man that you don't need to do all this other stuff.
Because there is enough women, good women, for the top 1% of men.
There is.
There might not be enough women for every man, right?
Because not everybody's high value, not everybody's going to be that 1%.
But if you want to be high value, There are enough quality women for you that you don't have to do that, that whole thing is we're more general.
Let me just say this, like, my view, I don't have a perfect analogy, so this is not entirely fair, but my view of how you guys are describing it is like, somebody grows up on the south side of Chicago, in the hood or whatever, and what are most kids doing?
They're selling dope, pot, you know, I'm not talking about heroin or anything like that, and you know, they can get in trouble, they know it's no good, but the attitude that they have is always, bro, this is the reality, You're not going to be able to go to the north side and get a good job and make $30,000 a year as an entry-level position.
The only way you're going to be able to succeed in this day and age is to adapt and join the gang and sell the pot.
Some people will be like, I will do whatever it takes to not be a part of whatever that is and put my life in this position, even though that's what everyone around you is doing.
Some people get out of those situations and they figure it out.
Maybe that is only the 1%.
But my advice to people, and again, I'm not saying it's completely fair because there's a difference between dating and doing something illegal.
My attitude is basically don't just give in to this world you're being forced to adhere to.
I agree more just about resist that and try and figure it out.
Most guys don't know what we're talking about and they're actually selling the dope and doing what they're not supposed to be doing and becoming a statistic instead of doing what we're teaching them, which is you need to adapt to the new normal, right?
And you have to use unorthodox techniques because what they told you before was get married, find a family, et cetera.
Even though that's good advice, The reality is that that doesn't necessarily work in 2023, so you need to adapt to the new normal and innovate.
In fact, I think it's probably the common view among young guys that marriage is a huge risk.
Divorce rates Super high, as you said, initiated by women.
More than half of marriages ending in divorce.
Divorce courts favoring women.
Men losing their children and being forced to pay alimony at the same time.
Losing half of their possessions.
You've got these situations where the man and the woman are both working jobs and then the court still finds in favor of the women.
And then to get even more into the... I would say a more extreme position is Like this case in Texas where this man and woman get married, have a kid, and then the woman wants to gender transition the kid and flees to California with this kid, and California says it's okay and allowed.
Perhaps people are living too much on the internet, but the data does show that we're in a... I've seen too many commercials growing up where it's like, are you a father who has been negatively affected by this, blah, blah, blah.
We can see the data showing that if you're a guy who enters a marriage, you are in a, like, A dramatically negative position in terms of any arising future disputes.
Not to mention, I'll also add, the cultural degradation of the institution of marriage.
Married with children, I absolutely despise as a TV show.
I grew up watching this, and it's about people who hate each other with a passion, and it's like a joke, and I'm like, I couldn't stand that show.
But so, you grew up seeing something like that, and I'm smart enough to recognize I'm not gonna be programmed by a TV to tell me that marriage is bad.
I understand the nuclear family is, as what did Vivek Ramaswamy say, it's the most powerful and effective form of governance known to man.
But how many people grew up watching that thinking marriage will make you miserable, propagandized and not wanting to do it, And now you have the institutions, the courts themselves, putting that weight on men, if they are to even, you know, try.
unidentified
I just want to address what you said earlier about the kids in, you know, Chicago or South Side of Chicago.
You are right.
And you mentioned earlier, those people that we're talking to right now, which is not the 1%, which are kind of like, you know, the majority, They don't know what they don't know.
So if you don't know what you don't know, you think, okay, this is my reality.
This is all I know.
However, when you're exposed to the truth of what's really out there, you can make a solid choice for yourself.
Okay.
As a man, what do I want?
So to come to your point as well, you're right.
As a man, you used to know from the very beginning what you want to be, you know, you know, your end goal, but you don't know until you know, which means if you don't know the extent of what you can do, you're not going to do anything.
So my thing is like with marriage itself, If you know the truth about marriage and dating, you understand, like you said before, you're at a deficit once you join that agreement because women are incentivized to break that at any point in time and get a gain from it.
Now, if you know that, how do you get married and still have a family?
It's simple.
You marry, build an estate, which is either by the church or outside the U.S.
That's how we come to, like, kind of rationalize getting married.
So men take all the risk when they get married, right?
And then on top of that, we live in a society where women are not incentivized to keep the marriage going.
And if anything, they're more incentivized to leave their marriage, get the money, get the children, get all the benefits that come with it.
So what I'm saying is that since men must take more risk with getting married and dealing with women in that situation, They need to be more aware and know what they're getting into.
It goes back to that boxing match I told you about.
If you know that you're going to get into a ring with someone that's been training for the past five to 10 years in a boxing ring as a man, which is going to be your wife, by the way, who's going to know way more about the judicial system with dealing with the opposite gender, who's going to have all the advantages on her side.
She's going to have dealt with way more men than you've dealt with women.
This is why so many guys aren't able to go ahead and approach women, but women are very good at deciphering and figuring out which guys are losers.
We want guys to just be able to have the experience so that they can simply compete.
But most guys don't even have the experience to compete because what do we tell men?
Oh, women are sugar and spice and everything nice.
Chivalry is a thing.
Treat them fantastically, even though they don't necessarily deserve it.
There's women out there that literally prey on men where they go on dates with guys that they don't like for free meals.
Let me do this stuff.
Women absolutely leverage the sexual marketplace to their advantage.
All I'm simply doing is I'm telling guys, yo, you need to date like a girl and put yourself first because women absolutely put themselves first.
We got girls with sugar daddies.
We got girls getting flown out to major cities because I know you guys say, oh, well, there's women in rural areas that might not necessarily do this stuff.
They're still getting flown out.
They still have access to these men.
There's still one DM away.
They're still able to go to Tulum and to Miami, et cetera.
How do we know?
Because we deal with these girls.
Where are you from?
I'm from bumble fuck Arkansas.
And then they're still going ahead and hanging out with guys like us.
And I'm like, holy crap.
The sexual marketplace is globalized.
And what I mean by that is that you're...
Your girl ain't safe.
She can go travel anywhere.
So I want guys to be aware of this, adapt to it, and understand, okay, which girls am I going to commit to?
Are there women out there that are worthy of committing to that you found one?
Absolutely.
But I want guys to have the skill set to be able to figure out and decipher which ones are worthy.
I don't want to attribute the joke to the wrong person, but they said men should not be allowed on Instagram.
The point being, guys go on Instagram and they DM women.
Yeah.
So, going back to this decline in sex, showing that, you know, men between 18 and 30 are less likely to have had sex in the past year.
Women seem to be in a comparable range, a little bit less than normal.
You know, I was talking about this a couple years ago.
When I was 20, college age, we didn't have any of this stuff.
And so, what happens?
If you're in college, your sphere of influence and your dating marketplace is your college, for the most part.
There could be overlapping colleges, like if you're hanging out at Columbia in Chicago, you might have someone who's going to Loyola.
They might say, hey, there's a party, come up here.
But for the most part, 18 to 22 is this dating pool range.
You're typically not going to run into, when I was younger, a 22-year-old, you know, chick dating a 35-year-old guy, or anything like that, because they just don't know them.
Then, MySpace pops up, Facebook pops up, you start getting a little bit of this, but then you get OkCupid, you get Tinder, and what happens?
Now you've got a guy who's 20 years old, and he lives in a dorm.
He's living in a dorm, same as anybody else in this college.
He sends a message to a 20 year old girl that he knows that they met at a party or they have class together and he's like, hey, do you want to come hang out?
We're going to like order pizza or we can just like go see a show, you know, down the street at one of the venues.
And she's like, oh, that sounds really fun.
Then she gets hit up on Tinder by a guy who's 35.
Hey, you want to hang out and go do something?
Sure, what do you have in mind?
I'll come by, pick you up in my, you know, Mitsubishi Spyder convertible, we'll drive down to the lake, then I'll take you out to a nice dinner and we'll have steak.
Which one is she gonna pick?
Now, of course, some women are going to be like, I'd rather hang out with my friends and my community, but there is an increased pressure now where younger women have access to higher value guys.
And I mean that in, like, status-wise, wealth-wise access.
And it's a question of, like, this dude's going to bring you to a rooftop bar downtown.
He makes $70,000 a year.
He's not the richest guy in the world, but for you, a broke college student in debt, he's going to buy you a nice dinner, he's going to get you drinks, and you're going to overlook the city, and then I mean, that sounds so much fun.
Or you can hang out in the dorm with your buddies who are also poor.
I would say that's, maybe it's too bold to say statistically proven, but I would say we have seen tons of data showing exactly what you said is most likely to be the case.
I think it was Tinder or OkCupid's data showing that the average man has a natural bell curve for female attraction and value, and the average female has a super warped curve that they They would rate 8.
Men that are on average rated 8 to 10 are deemed average, and for men, the bell curve is normal.
Like, the average woman is average.
The ugly woman is ugly.
The beautiful woman is beautiful.
For women, almost all guys, 80% of men, they deem unworthy or unattractive.
But I don't know if the solution to this then is to say, engage in it.
Perhaps the solution is, get away from these areas full of debauchery, go out to smaller areas and find something more wholesome.
If cities Have embraced this culture to this degree, then perhaps the solution is to recognize that and get away from it.
And what it is, is that when the high value men demand something different and are open to something different and saying, you know what, this Instagram, like, let me fly you out to Bali on my private jet deal is no longer, um, Attracted to them because they have a higher standard that they're setting for themselves.
Hopefully my sons who will be you know, what the women are not attracted to anymore No, I'm saying the men are saying we want something different.
We don't want the Instagram hoe that I can fly in overnight just to have a quick I agree a lot with what he's saying.
Imagine if women are only looking at the top 8, 9, 10 of men.
I would call myself stupid, immature, not brought up properly, not taught the things that actually make me into a high-value man.
So, I think you need to flip the equation.
You say the women have all the power, but what you're saying is, what we're really saying is, the top tier of men, you're saying, get to have their pick of the women.
And it's because, and it's like, even though, even though we should tell guys, exercise sexual temperance, get like, stop doing this, blah, blah, blah.
The guys that become successful are going to look at you, flip the bird and be like, I'm going to continue to do this.
I had to bust my ass to get this position.
And one of the first things that guys do once they make money is they start going crazy with girls.
So realistically speaking, the guys are never going to stop trying to bang girls.
And then the girls that are looking for status and experiences, et cetera, they're never going to want to go keep chasing the top 1% guys because it's embedded in our biology.
And then on top of that, it's never going to change because women worked really hard during feminism and they worked really hard to get the same equality and opportunities that men have.
So they're never going to go ahead and say, you know what?
We want to go back to the kitchen and serve a man and, you know, be a dutiful wife.
No, they only want to do that for a small percentage of men that are the same guys that don't want to commit.
Let me put my political mind to all of this and show you the roadmap I see.
When I look at this data that these guys aren't having sex, and we're saying that it's the wealthy successful guys that are getting access to all the women, think about what that means in terms of human civilization reproduction.
It means that Slightly above average, average to below average, I'm talking about like 70% of men and down are not going to be reproducing or having a hard time doing it.
Only the strongest, smartest, most successful, cunning, are going to reach a level of status where they're going to be having access to all these women.
This means that mathematically you can look at, just look at it from a mathematical equation.
Over a longer period of time, there's a higher standard of men reproducing, and the lower standard of men are failing to reproduce, and this seems more carnal than what society used to be, right?
It feels more like what chimps do, where it's like the alpha beats the crap out of their dudes, and then bangs all the women, and then all the babies come from one strongest guy.
That's a problem here for human civilization.
When it comes to other animal, mammal species and the way they engage in reproduction, it doesn't matter to any of us or anyone in these areas where there are, you know, primates or mammals that engage in that kind of pair bonding.
But in human civilization, what we do know is when there are large quantities of men who are unpaired, society breaks down.
Absolutely.
You get crime, chaos, violence, social disorder, and then eventually collapse of governance.
We've talked about this quite a great deal when looking at communist nations and the rise of revolution.
It is purposeless young men and they're going to put that energy somewhere.
large portions of men from dating, they will figure out something to do with that.
And Idle Hands is devil's playground.
So while you may say in the short term, there is a net evolutionary positive in that the smartest, quickest, strongest men are more likely to have families, then you also have to contend with the rest of men will burn that system to the ground.
unidentified
So Andrew Tate is famous for saying his competition being held at high levels, low levels for men always, right?
And look at Nick Cannon.
He has what, like what, 11 kids?
Acorn?
20 kids?
So you're right, the top guys are getting most of the kids.
Okay, so if you're Christian, you know what's gonna happen.
Revelations speaks about it.
In times, it's pretty much like, this is gonna happen no matter what you do.
However, you can save a few people by talking to them directly, you know, telling the truth.
But my thing is like, it's gonna happen anyway.
So why not just adapt to it, be the best man you can be, and try to win?
Because I think you can't really change it, to be honest with you.
But you can change your life.
I'm very much focused on the things that I can control in my own life, and building a fortress around my family financially, mentally, spiritually.
I know it's possible because I've done it and I'm not particularly special.
Like I'm not super intelligent.
I just, I work really hard and I've been successful because I was committed to a purpose.
And most of that purpose came from my children.
Once I had children, it was a, it was a different ball.
And you can, you can track my net worth and my everything from when my first son was born.
It was like a flip switched and boom, it was like a different level of purpose.
And to, You know, even to delay that for men to get experience or whatever, you know, maybe because I think what ends up happening is the sex because like just because we're men, we're carnal, the sex becomes the purpose over what the purpose should actually be, which should be to build your start building your life.
Part of that's dating, but to say that this is the way it has to be and is always going to be, I think it's just too pessimistic for me.
I'll go back to where I was at when I said society breaks down, because nothing ever ends there.
There's always what comes next.
And thinking about, as you describe it, If we come to a point where there are too many purposeless, listless men, and they've become sexually frustrated, they've become professionally frustrated, it's hard for them to find work.
Not only are they competing with higher value men for the sexual marketplace, it's also the physical, actual, professional marketplace, and now they're competing with women for jobs too.
If this does lead to some kind of social order breakdown, after the dust settles, and the revolution... Soviet Union lasted 69 years.
Who's going to be in charge of what comes next?
It's going to be guys like Jason, who have secured and fortified their family and have prepared generationally.
If you have kids, you raise your kids right.
When everything breaks down, those kids are part of your network, your protection.
They're part of what will keep your society going.
But if you look at a place like, you know, New York, maybe Miami, where people are not having kids and they're very promiscuous, when social order breaks down, Those people's, their lines break.
I'll put it this way, you are more likely to survive a conflict with a family than without one.
That's the easiest way to look at it.
And then if you look at the math for that, I would just say the equation seems to predict if social order does break down because of what we're seeing, you know, with dating apps, with social media.
Give it 100 years and it's going to be people like Jason who are controlling it.
unidentified
I think he just nailed it though.
The vision I see for what you guys are saying is turning the entire world into San Francisco.
Yeah, but the other thing, which I understand what you're saying, like yeah, you're better off with a family, but what's worse is that you build a family with a woman that wasn't worthy in the first place because you didn't have the knowledge to do so.
So my thing is, I'm telling guys, yes, build families, have children.
We are not against that at all.
The nuclear family is absolutely the backbone of why the United States is the most powerful country in the world.
What I'm saying is that most women are not worthy of building a nuclear family with.
I want guys to go into relationships or marriage or anything like that with their eyes wide open.
A lot of these women are not worthy of it and you need to pick the best one.
unidentified
Okay, so would you tell them?
Because there are a lot of points of agreement here.
But would you tell them that when you choose to slide into a woman's DMs or whatever you do to pick up women, that your goal should still be whether it's your first one or your 50th one.
The end goal should still be, consider whether or not you want this woman to raise your kids.
See, we tell guys, you got to be honest about that.
unidentified
I'll never forget what he said to me though, because it reminded me of what you just said.
He said, everybody told me at the time, go ahead and get it out of your system.
And he said, what I found out was I didn't get it out of my system.
I got it into my system.
And it never went away.
And it never went away.
And that's the brain chemistry thing that I'm talking about.
So for the big disagreement that I keep pushing back on is all of the things you're saying are true, except for, Always have the intention of purpose behind your drive to find the right woman.
Find the right woman.
Know what you want.
Know what you don't want.
Filter as many as you need to to find that person, but don't go into it like, I'm going to bang 10 women because I can and I'm high value or whatever, because that's not getting it out of your system, it's getting it into your system.
All I was going to say was like, I get it that you're saying, cause men, here's the thing.
I talk about men and women and people tend to forget that I criticize men as well.
Men are only going to be as faithful as their options typically.
That's just how it is.
So are a lot of guys going to sit there and exercise, you know, de-discipline as you guys were saying?
The majority, no, because once guys get to a certain point, they make a certain amount of money, they become successful, et cetera, they're going to want to have women.
That's why a lot of these guys, they have mistresses, they have sugar babies, they have women on the side, they deal with escorts, whatever.
So since guys are going to do this anyway, most of the time when they have the resources to do so, I say, just be honest with your partner.
And depending on what position they hold, if they're in the military and they're some type of government service, then I think absolutely their vote should count all the way.
But if it's just a female and she doesn't have any type of civil service or anything else like that, then I think it should be... And this goes for the men too.
Right, certain guys shouldn't vote either.
If you're working at McDonald's, et cetera, should your vote count all the way?
I feel like I'm taking crazy pills here, but I think part of the problem is that I guess our views of women are so much different because when I think of a woman, I think of a woman who runs a household and raises children and does the most beautiful thing that you can possibly do.
What we're doing here is we've trained, as men, women, we've incentivized certain behavior, and now we want to discount them because they're giving the men what they're asking for, which is OnlyFans, Instagram, AskShots, and then we're saying now, suddenly, that they're somehow less valuable.
A lot of the stuff that we're seeing women do, it's like men are- They're filling demand, is all they're doing.
unidentified
Well, we allowed them to do this, so you are correct in that sense, because as men we're leaders.
But I will say this, if we're talking about votes here, women are more easily swayed to one direction or another, because once again, they follow leadership depending on who they see as important.
So ultimately speaking, if I'm going to go for votes, I sway the women, I'm going to win.
But what you're saying is that we as men are ineffective leaders, and therefore, because we cannot lead properly, that now the women should have half a vote or no vote.
Like to me, I'm like, I'm always like looking first internally.
What did I do?
How did I fail here?
Or what, what was the point of failure that happened here in leadership?
And everything I'm hearing is like men have failed in many.
A woman is going to try and make things smooth over.
There's a lot of positives to being agreeable and a lot of negatives to being disagreeable and vice versa.
It's pros and cons.
Men and women are different and complementary.
unidentified
Now there's an agenda though of course we can go deeper here and get more serious but to be real here men were at the helm of this because once again we put certain policies in place we allow things to happen and as a result the family's destroyed.
Now when it comes to women obviously they're human beings as well equally we're all human beings but to be fair when it comes to voting and political views they can be swayed in any direction which means by default they should vote Women are communitarian in general.
So what ends up happening is, and I have only a cursory knowledge of this, correct me if I'm wrong for those that are listening, feel free.
I don't think I'm completely right on this.
What I read was that a compromise was made Women were not going to get suffrage because they were like, we don't want to go to war and we don't want a fire brigade.
We want the men to do those things.
Please leave us alone.
And so that caused a point of contention where it wasn't going to move forward until finally the men who are running the show in various in Congress and stuff and relented and said, okay, women can vote and no civic duty.
So where we're at now is we're in a completely different world.
I do think women should be allowed to vote.
However, I don't think anyone should be allowed to vote without civic duty.
It makes no sense to me that someone can move into New York City without having any ties to the community, vote to destroy the place and then leave there.
That's a problem.
People, typically Democrats, talk about how evil it was that only landowners were allowed to vote back then, but they're ignoring the context of history in that there were no ID cards.
Voting was, do you live here or no?
You don't live here?
Okay, well, dude, you're not voting on how we're going to defend, facilitate, expand.
Well, this is why it's so important to have authority tied with responsibility.
The problem is that we're giving people authority with zero responsibility, which goes back to the female voting situation, right?
A lot of these women that vote, a lot of times, they don't necessarily know how the government works, how the economy works, et cetera, and they're over here making very serious decisions and putting people like Sleepy Joe in office who don't necessarily deserve to be there.
But people have talked about things like this, tests of merit.
Vivek Ramaswamy has said a constitution or civics test.
Uh, if you're under the age of 25 and you want to vote, you gotta pass a test.
I'm like, that's nonsense, because there's 26-year-olds who are dumb as a box of rocks.
There's 50-year-olds.
There's men who are voting.
Look, there are a large portion of conservative Republican-leaning women.
Removing their vote, why?
50-50 men.
Men are voting Democrat, too.
I don't see a political argument for or against voting.
I see a civic argument, genderless, right?
I talked to Vivek Ramaswamy about this, and I thought a really good, simple idea that we brushed upon was the moment you sign up for the Selective Service, you're also granted a voter registration ID card.
Registering to vote is the Selective Service.
Here's what happens.
This solves the problem for everybody.
You don't have to go to war.
You're not being drafted.
The likelihood of that is extremely low.
You're simply saying, I am willing to be, in the event anything does happen.
I know there are problems with that, because I think the draft is really, really bad, because you look at how the United States government has changed.
It's one thing to say, hey, we're being invaded, two arms, man.
It's another thing to be like, we're sending you to Vietnam, you know, in the Gulf of Tonkin incident and all that, I'll avoid.
But you know, nonsense, false flags, fake reasons for getting into war.
But think about what happens if you say, everyone's allowed to vote, but you got to sign up for selective service, men and women, both.
You are going to have 95% of low value individuals, men and women, being like, nah, I'm cool.
And that's why I said, that is why in general, I say the basis for which why a woman's vote should only be 50% is a big reason because of the Selective Service.
But if they wanna join in the Selective Service, or they wanna be involved in civic duty, or they wanna be involved in the military, police, et cetera, then I'm like, cool.
Because a lot of people say, oh, well, women fought for the right to vote.
A lot of people don't know what you said before.
They don't want to deal with the responsibility that came alongside with it, with having to be a volunteer.
I don't want to send a guy who doesn't- Look, one of the problems of Vietnam, the stories we hear is when they drop these guys off on the first landing beach or whatever, and the Viet Cong are shooting at them, they aimed overhead because they were terrified and didn't want to shoot somebody.
I want to know that, well, first of all, we shouldn't have been in Vietnam, right?
But take a scared young dude who doesn't want to fight and force him to fight.
That's why we're like, we better get away from that.
If you think about it in the bigger picture, That young guy who was too scared to shoot at the enemy would be better off making widgets in a factory or bullets in a factory where he doesn't have to think about it.
So you say, hey, you're being drafted, but you clearly don't want to do this, so we're going to go have you just get a job.
Or not even that, they're going to say the jobs that are available right now are typically in industry and manufacturing.
I don't know if that's a perfect solution, but imagine you see all these videos of people going to Times Square and they ask questions.
I love this one.
Name a country that starts with the letter U.
It's the funniest question I've ever heard.
And people are like, uh, uh, and then they're like, you can't think of it.
I like your idea because the people that are voting actually have authority and responsibility but I could already see the feminists protesting and saying this is sexist and misogynist blah blah blah like this is just a way for us to not vote.
unidentified
Would taxes at least not be some responsibility though?
I mean like I hate taxes but like Is that not a civic duty to pay taxes?
They voted for a political party that is supporting war in Europe, which could lead to World War III.
Men did too, but women skew in that direction.
And they're not responsible for the war.
Thank you.
So now we've got Joe Biden calling in the ready reserves and the select reserves.
This is nuts.
They called in people who have completed their contracts in the army.
For those that don't understand, and I'm not an expert on this.
I know many of you may be veterans and may understand better.
There are people who are like reservists and we all know what that is.
They sign up, weekend warriors, whatever you want to call them.
And they've been called in.
Now you've got people who did their four years, they got out, honorable, administrative, whatever kind of discharge, and now they're being called back because there's an extension on their contract for, I think that's called Ready Reserves.
I'm not to say that anybody who doesn't like Trump, by all means, don't like him, but it is a fact.
Republicans are split on the issue of war in Eastern Europe, whether you agree with it or not, and Democrats wholeheartedly are for it.
There's an issue there that people like Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer and Democrats are arguing for the expansion of a conflict in a country 8,000 or some odd miles away that could ultimately result in me being forced to go fight.
I mean, I'm 37, so I'd be later on in the draft if it ever got to that.
But I don't like the idea that overwhelmingly people who are not subject to those requirements are voting to send me to die.
Yeah, they're not going to deal with the consequences and the ramifications of their political choices, which is my issue.
Like, if you're going to vote, then you need to have some skin in the game as well.
And that's what I'm trying to say when I say, even though, you know, we said, hey, everyone, if you join in the draft, you get to vote or whatever.
You know, I could already see the feminist lobbying, well, this is sexist and blah, blah, blah, because we're not, women are not going to be more prone to go to war.
We should still be able to vote.
And I'm like, well, I know for a fact by implementing that, that's disproportionately going to put most women in a situation where they won't be able to vote.
And they're going to get mad and they're going to complain.
But my thing is that, well, Hey, maybe that's, maybe that's good because you keep out the people that don't care about this country.
You keep out the people that aren't patriots, et cetera.
And honestly, if you don't care about this country, you shouldn't be voting in the first place.
unidentified
I know this sounds personal by and large, but like we have a podcast.
I do think it's fair to say that you guys are probably surrounded by average, like, un-average kind of person, which means you'll run into a lot of people who are not very learned.
Right.
It may be the inverse that we do a political show here.
Every woman we've had on the show has been able to name three countries.
I have not encountered a single woman, you know, on Culture War IRL who's been like, I have no idea.
unidentified
In fact, I'm going to start a podcast for High Value Dad, and I'm going to do my own dating show, and I'm going to have women on who are Bro, if you can do that, kudos to you.
- Now, can you do it every week? - Good luck. - Good luck. - Good luck. - 'Cause I'm telling you, bro, that we bring in girls with mass degrees, PhDs, et cetera, They're very educated.
But that's what I'm trying to explain is that, like, regardless of woman's education level or her status or whatever, it doesn't change the fact that women generally aren't interested in a lot of the same things that we're talking about right now.
So we created a mess, the men made the porn, the men made the OnlyFans, the men incentivized really bad behavior that creates women who are not Ideal mates.
And now we're saying... We can go deeper and we can say who authorized this?
Now I don't think this guy was intending to do that, and he's very rich.
So my point is, not that Tim Stokely was like, I'm gonna create this, you know, deviant debauchery.
He had good intentions.
A musician could be like, hey guys, I know you're fans of the show, we got bonus member content, you can find it.
And then a bunch of prostitutes were like, we're gonna sell sex to guys for money, and that's what the platform is now.
They say it's mainly used for pornographic creators.
I don't think that's correct.
I think there's a difference between, there's an overlap between porn and prostitution.
When women provide menus for men, and they're doing it on Twitch, one woman got banned, it's a big story, because she flashed her OnlyFans menu on Twitch, so that guys could buy sex services.
I'm telling you, Wow.
Porn is, they make a video, they post it.
They take pictures, they post it.
Prostitution is, you hire someone to engage in a sex act for you, and that's what OnlyFans is.
I get it, it's digital and online and there's no touching and people don't see each other, but these women are still being paid money for a sex act so that someone else can personally experience it.
Bro, it's like so much, like the path to hell is paved with good intentions.
unidentified
Well, and not to keep harping on this issue, but like, that's kind of what I feel like For men, because we are so motivated by sex and by some of the things we're talking about, women and sex, if you make too much of your purpose about just that pleasure-seeking activity, I feel like you get to a certain point, and I've talked to these guys.
You talk to the guys who are getting ignored by women.
I've talked to the men who have had their families destroyed because, again, they got it in their system and they couldn't figure out how to get out of it.
Whether that's cheating or porn or whatever it is, when you go down that path of the way it molds your mind and creates these neural pathways, it's hard to get out.
- Men, real quick, men want, in general, men are fulfilled by different ways, their purpose, et cetera, but one of the things guys wanna do a lot of the times is they wanna have sexual variety.
And my thing is if a guy works at a certain point and he wants to have sexual variety and he's honest with his partner, he should absolutely be able to do that.
unidentified
- There's a lot that I wanna do all the time.
There's so much that I wanna do.
I have two young kids and a family.
There's so much that I want to do.
And I put a wall of discipline around because there are more important purposes and things that I need to do versus what I want to do.
And I think I would love to do, like, when you have a child, if and when you have a child, I would love to redo this podcast because I think it's going to Reorient the way you think I understand that but I'm saying that that's what but at the end of the day you're still choosing to do that what I'm saying is that we Correct.
We live in such a gynocentric society that we prioritize the female sexual strategy over the male sexual strategy I'm saying build you can be fulfilled sexually with one with a with a one partner No, most men absolutely want a variety of women.
We're designed for it.
We're programmed for it.
And I'm saying, look, if a guy's going to bust his ass and get to a certain point socioeconomically, physically, and be attractive, and be able to get a girl, and have a family, whatever, I think he should be able to exercise options if he does, if he wants to, with obviously letting his girl know and being honest.
The problem is that most guys are not honest with their woman.
They don't tell her what they really want to do.
They do it behind her back, she finds out, and it causes issue.
I think guys should be honest about it, and if they have the discipline and skill set to be able to build a family, make the money, etc., they should be able to enjoy the fruits of their labor.
unidentified
Do you think a woman could actually respect a man?
I'm not talking about stay with him because he's rich and he's high value.
Do you think a woman would be cool and respect a man deeply as the leader of the family?
She'll respect him even more so, and I'll tell you why.
Women are not the same as us.
When a man is able to have sex with a bunch of different women, it's social proof women are attracted to that.
We are not the same.
A woman will like you more when she knows that you picked her over the other girls versus she was your only option.
Women and men mate very differently when it comes to intersexual dynamics.
And women, I would argue, social proof is one of the most important factors when it comes to being attractive to women.
unidentified
- Do you think it would not be more attractive to have a man who has options and has people who want his attention, but he gives it all to her? - I mean, we can go on to Maccabella and say- Would that not be more attractive?
Women do the best when they have competition anxiety.
unidentified
Okay, but that doesn't mean you have to have sex with them.
You can have a competition and you can have, like, I'm sure I could go outside with the watch and figure out a way to get that competition, but do you have to actually engage in sex with other women to show that there is competition?
And it's like, no, I built the discipline to build myself up to even get to this point to even have choice.
unidentified
Listen, I think we're both right, but as a man you should make a choice to do what you want to do.
Now, I hate to bring religion into this, but you're a Christian, right?
Correct.
So in the Bible, who was the wisest man in recorded history in the Bible?
The oldest?
The wisest.
Oh, the wisest.
You're going to have to educate me.
King Solomon.
Okay.
What did he have?
A thousand wives.
Okay.
Once again, it's choice.
Now, added to that as well, I'm not saying you need to do that because obviously it's sinful to do that, but as a man, as you know, we have sin inside of us.
So once again, we're going to want to go out there, be with other girls, so it's in us.
Now, to deal with that, once again, take your pick of the litter, make a choice, and get married.
I just simply want to say this because I don't want people to sit here and be like, Myron Singh, go out and bang a bunch of chicks.
No.
If a guy wants to be monogamous, be monogamous.
Absolutely more power to you.
But I know after talking to literally thousands of men and knowing how men think, etc., we're way more alike.
Most guys do not want to be monogamous.
So I say this, if you're going to go ahead and you have this itch and you want to scratch, etc., be honest with your partner, exercise your options, get to a point where you're attractive enough where you can even exercise your options.
You've got to get your money on point.
You've got to be attractive.
This is why we have a whole playlist on making money.
We have a whole playlist on getting in shape.
We have a whole playlist on understanding female nature and being attractive and being a holistically attractive man in general.
Once you achieve all these things and you have a woman by your side that you love, etc., and you're honest with her, look, I want to have other women, and you do it in a safe way, it can absolutely be done.
But my thing is, I don't want guys to suppress what they want to do and follow the gynocentric model of, oh, be monogamous to one woman because you have to be when you busted your ass to get to a certain place to even attract this woman in the first place.
I want guys to be monogamous because they want to be.
unidentified
This is the last thing I'll say, and I don't want to drown on about this.
I'm not saying that you're monogamous because the woman wants that and that's the way it has to be.
I'm saying that you're going to have a more fulfilled life and a better purpose if you have a mutually respective relationship with a woman when you have children and you are a family unit.
If I go out tomorrow and go bang some women and I go home and I tell my wife, she wouldn't deal with it.
but like I'm saying that the level of respect that I would lose would not be worth the damage that it would do to my family as a unit.
So the monogamy is not because it's what you want to do or because it's what she wants. - But what if you told her that in the onset of the relationship? - If she was fine with it, again, if she's fine with it, that's the freedom.
I question whether or not like that's, maybe there are some women where that, I haven't seen it done well is what I'm saying.
I want to go back to a point you were making, which adds to this, about how men, like women, are fulfilled by relationships with men and by passions.
I think men are object-oriented, women are subject-oriented, in a general sense.
Maybe it's only slightly skewing one way for men, but... People versus things.
Right, that's why the famous, the trope and the meme is that a guy will take a picture of an object, a woman will take a picture of herself in front of the object.
But you think about it this way, what matters more, that I have a big glass orb or the people I shared a moment with?
For women, it's the people you share moments with.
For guys, it's the thing.
And you can argue pros and cons between that.
A lot of guys will look at women, like, I got a new video game and it's a picture of them.
And they're like, ah, these women are so vain or whatever.
But then you can also invert it and say, people matter more than the object in the first place.
I'd rather have the picture of my friend and their experience, you know what I mean?
But that being said, for a lot of women, I think, social pressures play a role in whether or not they're going to stay with someone or not.
It's about community.
Because society around them has a very strong impact.
This is why the data shows young females are overwhelmingly becoming depressed and having psychological issues due to Instagram that men are not, or young boys are not.
For example, women started developing Tourette syndrome.
I should say women, girls.
on Instagram. - Wait, what? - Yeah, started developing Tourette's syndrome because prominent creat, so what happens is there's a prominent influencer who has Tourette's, gets like 100,000 plus followers, and then has these tics where they're talking, and they'll talk, and then they'll talk, and these young girls who are watching that start adapting that behavior.
There's a lot of social influences that are picked up through social media.
Filters are a big issue, but it's resulting in severe depression.
Young boys don't experience the depression at the same level.
There's a bunch of stories in the news about teenage girls will take a picture of themselves, then they'll track how many likes they get on it, and if it's below average, they'll delete it, and then take another one, Because they're feeling pain, like emotional distress, at this decrease in the likes they're getting.
This affects young boys in a similar way, but not the exact same way.
Think about what that means for traditional society where you've got a thousand people living in a small town, And it is expected, because everyone has this social expectation of marriage, you know, by the time you're 18 or 20 or whatever, you're gonna buy a house, you're gonna have a family, and this is the traditional world.
Then you get a young woman who says, I'm not getting married, I want a job.
She was shunned, it was painful, it was scary, she was a spinster and things like this.
In these communities, The woman is being pressured and so I think it's a component of what's called enforced monogamy.
Now you've got, on social media, women being told... You see that viral meme where the young woman puts her finger through the ring and then it shows her cleaning dishes and she's like, oh!
Because that mentality that you don't want to be a wife, then she looks all shocked, then she puts her finger in it again, and then she's scrubbing dishes, then she's like, whoa.
Then all of a sudden it flashes to her pregnant, holding a baby, and vacuuming, and all sad looking.
And then she takes the ring off, puts it down, and goes, no way.
But real quick, that's considered, people believe that's a psychological operation created in China to influence people in the West to destroy the family.
We don't look at the beautiful things that women do, raising a family, being at home, taking care of the house, etc.
I agree, that is beautiful, but here's the problem.
Modern day women, today, just by what you said, demonize it and say that it is bad.
So since most women don't believe in the family, they don't believe in having a husband and having children, etc., and they want to pursue a career instead, guys need to adapt to that.
Or Mark Zuckerberg tonight could go into the Instagram algorithm and be like, anything that's insulting of the family, anything that's insulting of motherhood, we down rank.
And anything that cherishes women and how women want to live, we promote.
So effectively, you used to be able to raise a family back in the 1950s when traditional conservatism worked.
You'd be able to raise a family on one income.
Those days are gone because of feminism and we've effectively doubled the workforce.
And one more thing.
Women are 80% of the consumer base, but they control three quarters of the debt.
So they're incentivized to keep women single because women are, by nature, consumers.
Men are creators.
unidentified
So there's... Just real quick, because you made a very good point here, and this is because America's under attack.
The family is under attack 100%.
The man needs to be removed, woman needs to be independent, so she's the one that's seen as the goddess of whatever scene, you know, the trilogy.
The point is that like, right now, TikTok, social media itself, is a huge, I want to say detriment to our well-being, and we're using it every single day.
It's this idea that women can't rise to certain levels or whatever that... I actually think... It's a lie.
I think it's a myth.
I think it's born of the greater male variability phenomenon.
So, what happens is, if there are more stupid men, nobody pays attention to them.
If there are more exceptional men, that I'm talking relative to women, what happens is, If you've got 60 women who are average, 20 who are exceptional, 20 who are morons, but 30 exceptional men, this means that there is a imbalance in competition among the best women and the best men.
If there are more men, then, mathematically, there will be more men in higher positions.
Yes.
Women then perceive that, feminists then perceive that as, they can't get past the glass ceiling they're being held down by patriarchy, when it's actually just a component of Like, the skewing towards... Here's my point.
There's something called the glass floor.
And this is something that's never brought up by feminists because, like you said, they want CEO jobs in their conditioning, but they don't want to work as patrolmen.
The glass floor is that... I don't even know if the glass floor is the appropriate way to describe it.
It's where men typically have a harder time making money at younger ages and entering the workforce than women.
For example, entry-level positions in a mailroom, secretary jobs, not prestigious, but they might pay a low salary, typically go to women.
Serving positions, service jobs in general, which require less skills, and they pay decently for young people, typically go to women.
A good example is serving jobs.
Restaurants are more likely to hire women to be servers than men, just on average, not always.
And what happens?
Women will make tips that will average maybe, in some areas, 15-20 bucks an hour.
A guy will be lucky to get a job as an apprentice in heating and air conditioning for a minimum wage.
So when it comes to... There's a whole range of dynamics that happen here.
The first thing I'll add is it's never talked about in terms of feminism because they don't want to talk about how it's actually easier for them to get started but harder to advance based on these issues.
- Go further? - See, in my book, "Why Women Deserve Less," which-- - Good plug here. - Yeah, I got a good plug here.
I have a book called "Why Women Deserve Less." I go into detail about this as to why, 'cause feminists will go ahead and make this crap up about, oh, the glass ceiling, the patriarchy, blah, blah, blah.
So the reality is that Genders tend to fall into what they naturally do.
If you look at the job fields, right, that are more socially oriented, dealing with people, women tend to dominate those jobs, jobs that are more laborious, that are more difficult, that kind of suck, men will tend to go into those jobs.
Because men understand that there's a burden of performance on us, and our value is determined by our career, how much money we earn, and we're not able to have a family and even meet a woman if we don't reach a certain status, but women don't have that same burden.
So women are able to pursue their dreams, they're able to go into lower paying jobs, because they want to do it, because the burden of performance isn't on them.
One, with all due respect to women, it must be insufferable to deal with aggressive, high testosterone morons because there's more of them than the average male.
And like, you're gonna get more morons and more exceptional guys.
This means that women do, like the mansplaining phenomenon.
Like, okay, I totally get it.
There's gonna be some really dumb, but arrogant guy because he's raging with testosterone.
And he's gonna be thinking he's so smart when he's dumb as a box of rocks.
And you gotta understand, If there are 60 average women, you know, in this curve, and only 40 average men, that means there's a larger pool where smarter women are encountering dumb men who are saying stupid things to them that's condescending.
So I totally get why that phenomenon exists, right?
Yeah, I know, I mean it's understandable, but it's funny because there's been polls on this and we've asked girls on the show this, would you prefer to work for a man or for a woman?
Yo, there was a really funny survey that found that when they asked CEOs of companies who would they rather hire, and they gave no names on the resumes, It was the male resumes without them knowing it was male or female.
And I think that's, that's, I think what creates a lot of the chaos in this topic is that we're, we are trying to reorient the way humans have behaved.
The point I was making with the glass floor is something that most guys probably do experience is that you're going to get, the average guy is going to get a job and they're going to get low pay.
I can speak to experience growing up for me.
My friend who was doing trade work for like 10 bucks an hour and this other girl like that was part of our friend group made 200 bucks a night for four hours as a server at a pizza restaurant.
No skills required.
The restaurant preferred to hire females as servers.
Why?
Guys will spend more.
They'll buy more drinks.
They'll tip better.
And then the dudes who apply are told, like, uh, we don't do that.
I'll give you another, I'll give you, I'll get personal with it too.
When I was working in Wrigleyville on Clark Street in Chicago, and I needed a job, I had been playing guitar on the street outside of ballgames and in the subway.
You gotta get a permit to do it.
But I was making like pretty good, like 17 to 30 bucks an hour jamming.
But I'm like, but I need something consistent.
I can't just go and like, it's not the only thing I can do.
I gotta get a job.
Every single establishment said outright, I'm gonna be honest with you, bro.
We only hire women.
Why, why would, why would a bar With a bunch of drunk 30-year-old guys want a 21-year-old dude working in any capacity in this.
There was a societal value analytical study done on how people treat each other and access to resources that found that young women are at what is described as social maximum.
Where men who are now in their 30s have greater access to resources than women.
As women age and become less desirable, again, not a dig on women, this is what the data was suggesting, their access to resources declines.
So what happens is an 18-year-old woman who enters the workforce is considered maximum social value.
You're not gonna get a CEO job, but you are gonna be able to go on OnlyFans and make a million bucks a day if you're one of the cream of the crop exceptional women doing porn.
Because that's the maximum social value for women.
Men value sex.
Young men almost will never encounter a circumstance where at a young age, they're gonna be able to just be a millionaire by going on being themselves.
They have to build something, work hard, which is what you were saying.
Two things happen.
For these women who have experienced in their life maximum social value, But are told all the time, boys have everything and they have nothing.
They think the best is the worst.
So what happens when they get older and their access to resources decline?
Society is falling apart and something is wrong and feminism needs to rise to restore women to their place.
Young men who've experienced gutter trash, who are more likely to be homeless, more likely to be victims of violent crime, less likely to find good jobs starting out, slowly start to experience life is good.
And women don't understand that they're given their million dollars up front.
I always use the differences of a woman is the equivalent to a trust fund baby, whereas a man is a self-made millionaire.
And then what ends up happening is, and what I mean by that is that women get their value up front.
When they turn 18 years old, they're effectively given access to a million dollars, and it's up to them how they want to spend it.
But then, you know, they're 30 years old, single, at the bar, buying their own drinks, and then they say, what the hell, where did all the good men go?
I always say women, basically, mature, wants to start to buy their own drinks at the bar.
Women get mad at me when I say that women in general have more opportunities and live life on easy mode.
They get mad when I say that, but I truly mean if a girl's attractive or even mildly attractive, she's going to have far more opportunities than a guy.
I think a large portion of the women we've had on TimCast IRL are in favor of repealing the 19th Amendment.
It's like a joke where all of the guys will be like, no, no, women should vote, and the women are like, no.
And it's weird.
I think a lot of women who are political and learned on a lot of these issues probably agree with the components.
I don't think they'd agree with the solutions you propose.
They would agree with the problems that are occurring.
When you talk about women's value and all that, they'll completely agree with you on that.
I think the women we have here would probably fall more into your camp about wanting to be married from looking at it holistically and generationally, but would also then be like, women shouldn't vote.
It's kind of, I don't know, it's weird.
I guess my point is, I think the political women we've had on the show, on our show, agree with you guys on the issues of social dynamics.
It's it's and it again, like I said, it's you know, feminism is a part of this and everything else like that But yeah, I mean it's dude It's simple like women have more opportunity now than they've ever had before because they're able to be treated as equals not while someone's any so still being able to get certain benefits and Situations given to them simply because they're females.
Yeah, just because you know, I think A lot of everything you guys are talking about comes down to societal programming of what we've been kind of trained by media and everything else to believe about how society should be today and if you really A lot of what you're saying is based on how your mind currently thinks, right?
Of what you want and what it looks like it is.
And all I want to try to get across before we wrap is like, do me a favor.
Do a little more digging into why you think the way you think, what experiences have led you to that, and then also understand that Your brain might be controlling you and not the other way around.
A lot of people don't understand that they control the mind and they get to program the mind.
The mind doesn't get to program you if you decide to do that.
And so all of these things of the way women and men interact in the world.
We're not slaves to it.
We can chart our own path and our own mindset of what we want our relationships to look like.
And again, if everybody's happy and healthy, that's good.
But I don't want to want to get into such a binary generalization that that men think Yeah, but you also have to be able to look at trends and you also have to look at the world for the way that it is.
And I would say our view on it and our adaptations is a very practical solution to dealing with a deregulated sexual marketplace where women have significantly changed.
I think your strategy is very viable.
Maybe 50, 60 years ago when women were different and you were more self-assured that you could find a woman that had family duties, that was less promiscuous, had family values, was religious, there was social shame for being a hoe, there was not Instagram, there wasn't the internet, et cetera.
But in today's modern day society where we live in a deregulated sexual marketplace, and what I mean by that is that you can literally hook up with anyone as long as there's an age of consent, et cetera, you guys need to move differently and adapt to the Don't follow the trend though.
Women leverage sex for compliance against men that they don't deem worthy.
So, I'm not telling you to like, if a girl doesn't give it to you, to like get rid of her.
I'm not saying that.
What I am saying though is that don't let a woman Famous you, thinking I'm going to leverage sexuality against you for compliance and get resources and time.
We're going to be there for a full week and then we're doing a show.
Actually, tickets are on TimCats.com.
You guys should buy them.
We got Patrick, Bette David, Don Trump Jr., Matt Gaetz, me and Luke Rutkowski as your hosts, and we're going to be giving away a bunch of stuff sponsored by Public Square.
The only pitch I got, so highvaluedad.com is the new fatherhood group.
And we are, you know, I'm doing a lot more than talking.
So we're actually just announced our first retreat.
It's going to be elite.
So I went out and found some special ops.
Guys who are like, you know, 20-year Navy SEAL who did BUDS training and a 160th Night Stalker pilot, like just really elite guys to put together the programming and really put together a really great plan to give men, fathers and business owners, kind of their roadmap, their battle plan to kind of level up in their families and in their businesses.
That'll be cool.
So, howaboutyourdad.com.
It'll be in October, October 19th in Breckenridge, Colorado.
Like I said, we got tickets available at TimCast.com for the Miami event.
Get them while you can.
I guess they were supposed to be only for members for the first half an hour, and then after that it was supposed to be open to the public, and then we just only had it locked for members, so...
I believe it now should be working, but either way, we'll have it up and ready to go tonight.
And for those that are members at TimCast.com, you can easily just log in the website and you can buy your tickets now, probably ahead of the general public.
But check it out.
You can follow me personally at TimCast everywhere.
