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March 17, 2023 - The Culture War - Tim Pool
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The Culture War #4 - Sovereign Brah, Roasting Only Fans Thots, Trump Called The Anti Christ

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tim pool
Today's episode of The Culture War is almost not brought to you by Outback Steakhouse, because they gave me food poisoning, and I was like barfing, and I feel miserable, so thanks for that.
You know, it really was delicious though, just not worth it.
But we're here, and we're going to talk about a bunch of stuff, so we're hanging out with Mary Morgan and Chase Sovereignbra.
What is it?
What is that Sovereignbra?
@sovereignbrah
I'm just a California bra that's trying to achieve sovereignty, you know?
tim pool
And you're not gay.
@sovereignbrah
And I am not gay.
tim pool
So you had this viral clip from the Whatever podcast where these women got really angry and stormed off because you said you didn't want to have sex with a trans person because they're dudes.
@sovereignbrah
Yep.
tim pool
So my question for you, just to start the show off, is would you rather have sex with Hulk Hogan with a vagina or like Megan Fox with a dick?
unidentified
In this scenario, Right away!
tim pool
YouTube, there you go, 30 seconds in.
@sovereignbrah
In this scenario, do I have a gun to my head?
I have to make the choice.
Because if so, I'd rather take the bullet.
I don't want either of those options.
unidentified
That's totally fair.
tim pool
That's what I was saying, because this viral clip from Andrew Tate, where he's like, bro, you're not listening.
I'm saying, like, a woman who looks like Hulk Hogan, bro, he'll mess you up.
Or Megan Fox, you could move it around.
And I'm like, why would you choose either?
Look, if somebody wants to bang Hulk Hogan with a vagina, that's all them.
I don't care.
That's none of my business, but I'm not going to do it.
That's why it's crazy they got so mad at you, because you were like, I don't want to have sex with a man.
And they were like, how dare you?
I'm like, what do you mean how dare you?
Leave me alone, dude.
I don't want to bang a dude.
@sovereignbrah
You know, the part that got them really angry was that I said it would be homosexual.
That was the part that made them really pissed.
tim pool
But it literally would be.
@sovereignbrah
Yes.
tim pool
And that's not a drag on trans people.
Like, a trans woman is a male person.
I got no beef.
That's just, they're males.
If you want to argue social constructs and all that stuff.
Anyway, so for those that were like, what the hell is going on already?
The context is that was like this viral clip you had where this woman's like, you can't say that that's wrong or whatever and like storms out.
unidentified
And so she's Rage Quit Kiko, right?
Yes, that's her name.
tim pool
Rage Quit Kiko.
unidentified
What I didn't understand about that clip is why is a biological woman Yeah, it's a cult.
We were talking about this a lot this past week, the definition of wokeness.
@sovereignbrah
- Out of respect, she said she's a biological woman.
I believe her.
But I think the reason why they're going to bat for it is because this leftist ideology of you have to defend all things LGBTQ, it's like a religion to them. - Yeah, it's a cult.
tim pool
We were talking about this a lot this past week, the definition of wokeness.
And it's like, this woman, everyone's like, oh, it's post-modernism, it's cultural Marxism, it's Mercuse and blah, blah, blah.
I'm like, dude, that lady who wanted you to bang a dude does not know who any of those people are, does not understand any of that ideology.
All she knows is that she must say what she is told to say, and whatever the left is changes every year.
Because like a couple years ago, the whole thing was critical race theory.
Now it's all about transgender, and the weirdest thing to me is that she got mad because you were just outright like, it would be homosexual for me to sleep with a male, and she's like, how dare you?
Like, wait a minute, man.
Ten years ago, we were all on board with the idea that you couldn't choose your sexuality.
Now they're like, demanding that you have sex with a male person.
unidentified
I mean, now tolerance, which is what they think is the only Christian value, is who you have sex with?
tim pool
That's the funny thing, too.
You have to give someone else what they want or you're bigoted.
You are not allowed to have your preferences.
They are allowed to have theirs.
@sovereignbrah
Yes, yeah, and you know what I find interesting about that conversation too is if you watch the full podcast, so for the people listening, for context we're talking about Whatever Dating Podcast episode 33, and multiple times throughout that podcast like I would say that I disagreed with something or come off as like judgmental, And she'd be like, and that's coming from the Christian man, as if Christians aren't allowed to pass any sort of judgment on degeneracy and culture.
She kept trying to use that over and over again.
She was like, really?
As a Christian, you're going to say that it's homosexual?
You're going to say that it's gay?
That's fucked up, Chase.
And it's like, look, it's...
It's literally what the Bible says.
unidentified
It's so obtuse because like her only concept of Christianity, a Christian moral compass, the moral precepts that we follow, is like, yes, being walked all over, being nice.
Yes.
@sovereignbrah
That's what they think Christianity is.
unidentified
It's all about being nice, being tolerant, and not having a problem with anybody else's actions.
tim pool
But you guys are forgetting in Leviticus where it said that the Lord prescribeth you have sex with a man if he looks like a woman.
So that's a core moral value of Christianity.
@sovereignbrah
That's what I told her, I quoted Genesis 5-2 where it says God made them male and female, right?
Yeah.
It says right there in Genesis 5-2 he made them male and female, he called them mankind.
And then in Leviticus it specifically says, if a man lies with a male as he would with a female, it is an abomination and detestable in the eyes of the Lord.
unidentified
Well, they've even twisted that to say, well, actually, you know, if you look at this niche translation and interpretation, then it's actually referring to pedophilia, which even they condone now.
She is not interested in understanding what you believe as a Christian.
She is interested in using it as a weapon against you.
tim pool
You guys got it all wrong.
If a man lies with a man as he would a woman, it's basically saying bros before hoes.
Don't lie to your bros, dude.
It's saying lie, not lies.
It's like, you know, when you got the lady, you're gonna lie to her and be like, yeah, me and the boys, we were just working all night and you're actually out bowling or whatever.
It's saying like, you know, bros before bros.
That's what it's really saying.
No, but that being said, I don't much care for... I don't think it's a legitimate argument that we follow all the rules and laws of Leviticus because there's a ton of stuff in Leviticus nobody follows.
unidentified
Christians don't follow all of those rules.
@sovereignbrah
It's part of the Mosaic Old Covenant.
We're not supposed to follow all the rules anymore.
tim pool
I just, I don't much care for the religious component of it, but I get it, people do.
My thing is more like, ten years ago, the whole narrative was that you couldn't choose your sexuality, it was just, it is what it is.
But now they're arguing, if a dude looks like a chick, enough!
And it's like, look, I gotta be honest, I got no beef with trans people.
None whatsoever.
But they'll call me transphobic anyway, even when I'm like, live your life, do what you wanna do as long as you're an adult or whatever.
But, I'm gonna be honest, I don't believe there's such a thing as a passing trans person.
I'm not saying to be mean.
@sovereignbrah
I agree.
tim pool
Like, there's a handful of trans people that many of us probably know, some that we're friends with, and I just want to keep bringing up people's names, that very close to passing, but it's like, you know.
unidentified
Well, the whole trans thing, what it's always been about is controlling how other people in society perceive you so that you can be treated a certain way.
You know, if you're biologically male, you want to be Understood and treated in society like a woman would be.
It's always been about other people's perception of you, not just living your life in a vacuum.
They have to control what other people say about them.
It's always been that.
tim pool
Let me clarify.
I do think some trans people pass in that context.
What I mean to say is, I don't think there is a trans person that I would find attractive.
That's just me personally.
That's what I mean to say.
Because I've certainly seen some, like, older trans people, and it's like, when you get to a certain age, then it's kind of, you know, I've seen women with mustaches, you know what I mean?
And then there are some trans people that are, like, Very, very close to looking and acting just like a woman, but the voice is always different, the shoulders are always broader, the hips are always narrower.
unidentified
That's after you spend like tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars on procedures to cosmetically change how you look.
@sovereignbrah
Yeah, there's still that uncanny valley where you look at the person and you're like, I know you're a dude.
tim pool
Right, right, right.
And again, like, I'm not saying this to be mean to anybody, but I'm also not going to lie to them.
That's the weirdest thing.
They want you to just lie to people.
And that's one of the biggest issues.
All of these, uh, you had these detransition forums and you had these, like, transition opposition stuff where they're like, hey, don't do this to yourself.
They're getting banned and shut down.
So if kids are going online and the only thing they see is, it's great, it's the best thing in the world, everyone will be attracted to you, they're going to go for it.
They're going to be like, But if they actually got to hear the detransitioner stories, the horrifying stories, they might reconsider it.
There's a viral clip of this trans man, biological female, walking up to the camera, I did a segment about it, and they're like, I don't understand why I got misgendered!
Like, I'm a man!
Like, I think I look like a man!
I even cut off my tits!
And I'm like, I can tell you're female, dude.
You have wide hips, and you have an effeminate face, and the ridge, like, And the voice is unmistakable.
Unmistakably female!
unidentified
The human brain just makes so many micro calculations when you look at somebody.
You can't avoid knowing what biological sex they are.
You're programmed to perceive that.
tim pool
And sometimes it's not the case.
There are circumstances where some guys or some women don't notice, but overwhelmingly Maybe if the person was on puberty blockers in childhood.
Not even in that regard.
Like, I look at Jazz Jennings and I'm like, I can tell that's a dude.
It looks like a Jazz Jennings.
And again, try to be very careful.
I'm not trying to be mean to anybody, but I think Jazz just looks like a little boy.
Does not look like an adult female human.
unidentified
The problem there is like Jazz is one of the very first that they started pushing as a child activist.
So that people would watch this TLC show and think, like, this is normal, you know?
These parents are just trying to let their kid live authentically to themselves, and it was one of the first that people started accepting.
But the trans stuff is how a lot of people are gonna start jumping off.
@sovereignbrah
Jumping off what?
unidentified
Yeah, jumping ship on this whole woke thing.
tim pool
Oh yeah, yeah, 100%.
Like, cutting off kids' balls.
unidentified
Like, we can see it happening.
@sovereignbrah
Yeah, well, I mean, the fact that, like, now kids are being mutilated, there's a lot of people that are like, this is my line.
Like, if you keep pushing, people are gonna get really, really mad.
unidentified
Even with Jazz, like, I don't think Jazz got the gender reassignment surgery, the bottom surgery, until turning 18.
17.
tim pool
Minor.
unidentified
Jazz was a minor.
And so was Kim Petras.
Even if you wait until 18 or closer to 18, you've still been groomed your entire life by your Munchausen parents to think that this is normal.
So it's not consensual.
@sovereignbrah
That's my biggest beef with it.
I debate people about the whole trans thing in Twitter spaces all the time.
The number one point I bring up is kids are so freaking impressionable, especially before the age of 10.
And you've got all these like woke teachers in kindergarten and second grade that are telling kids about gender fluidity and all this stuff.
And it's like kids are almost a blank slate when they're at that young age.
Like kids, I believed in Santa Claus until I was eight years old.
I was devastated when I found out he wasn't real.
My parents sold it really well.
Kids are so impressionable at that young age, and they especially listen to authority figures.
When you have teachers telling you, yeah, you can be a girl if you're a boy, or you can be a boy if you're a girl, They hear that and it just like so deeply sinks into their mind and it's it's very predatory behavior in my opinion and I think that's like that's the biggest problem is like then these kids hear that and then they jump on hormones and stuff that like irreversibly changes their body and stunts puberty and all this stuff.
unidentified
And they'll cope and they'll say oh the puberty blockers are reversible it's all reversible you're just spreading medical lies like No, you're the one gaslighting everybody about it.
tim pool
Yeah, there's crazy stuff like puberty block, like your kneecaps forming if you don't have proper hormones.
unidentified
There's so many things, so many little things.
tim pool
Like bone formation and cartilage and eyesight.
@sovereignbrah
Brain formation.
unidentified
Breathing problems because their lungs didn't form properly and stuff.
tim pool
Oh man, that's creepy.
@sovereignbrah
Yeah, and people say that it's like, it's medical care, like they need this medical care, which I think is complete BS.
tim pool
Psychological care is what they need.
@sovereignbrah
I agree.
I've heard that when kids go through these quote-unquote therapies, these predatory therapies, it doesn't actually change the suicide rates or the rates of mental health issues.
I read a statistic a couple weeks ago that 80% of people in the trans community have dealt with suicidal ideation and 40% of them attempt suicide at some point or another.
And I've heard that these therapies and stuff like don't change the outcome of those.
tim pool
Do you guys know if that's true? - I've even seen that it makes it worse. - I'm not a doctor, but I think the argument they have is the suicidal ideation is caused by a lack of acceptance.
And if everyone just accepted them, they wouldn't want to kill themselves.
unidentified
That's bullshit.
That's bullshit.
And it's a hostage situation.
So we have, like, these creepy, perverted autogynophiles basically holding children hostage with a gun to their head and saying, you know, if you don't go along with my agenda, this kid is gonna kill himself.
Right.
Like, it's literally a hostage situation.
tim pool
In the genderqueer book—this is the important thing I think a lot of people don't know, too, because I'm sure there's going to be a bunch of leftists being like, listen to these transphobes.
unidentified
Whatever.
tim pool
There's actually—I've identified—and I'm not a doctor or a scientist—but I've identified three different forms of transgenderism, I would refer to it, because as an umbrella term, I don't just mean gender dysphoria.
There is gender dysphoria, and that is where a person looks in the mirror and feels psychological disturbance because the body seems wrong.
They look down at their body and they're like, something is not right.
That's dysphoria.
There's also then autoandrophilia and autogynophilia.
So, apparently the NCAA swimmer is what they call AGP, where this is not- Leah Thomas?
Yeah, it's not gender dysphoria, it's a sexual arousal at being perceived or treated as female.
unidentified
That's so weird.
tim pool
There's autoandrophilia, which is females who get off being male.
So in that book, Genderqueer, for instance, the woman who wrote it, that famous book with the sex that they're showing kids, She says outright that she is... the whole book is about how she is sexually aroused when people treat her or she is perceived as male.
Like, that's not dysphoria.
But there's a third, and the third is Dylan Mulvaney.
And this is... Dylan Mulvaney is an actor.
Dylan Mulvaney is not trans.
I don't think Dylan Mulvaney has aroused the thought of being a female.
I think Dylan Mulvaney is a narcissistic Hollywood type, borderline personality disorder, and says, what do I have to do to get more views and likes on social media?
And so I've heard people say like, no, no, Dylan actually is trans.
And I'm like, dude, AGP, AAP, the fetish people, they are not prancing around in the forest in high heels.
They are not making videos where they sing about their bulges sticking out.
And they're aroused by it.
And then you have actual gender dysphoric individuals who I have the most sympathy for because they're like, what the fuck, dude?
Leave me alone.
These weirdos are fucking our shit up.
Who are just like, I just feel fucked up.
Like my body doesn't match and I'm trying.
And we're asked to have sympathy for those people.
And I totally do.
Somebody who looks in a mirror and they're like, what's wrong?
Like, this is wrong.
I'm like, Dan, that's gotta suck.
But then some dude or chick who's getting off on it, I'm like, it's not the same thing.
And then Dylan Mulvaney who's like, I have a bulge, look at my bulge.
I'm like, I'm not looking at your bulge, dude.
This is not what trans people do.
And so Dylan Mulvaney to me is like any other Hollywood celebrity or actor who gets a nose job or facial surgeries or laser hair removal so they can be on camera.
That's what Dylan Mulvaney is doing.
@sovereignbrah
I agree.
Have you guys seen the clip that's going viral right now?
That one is so weird.
unidentified
Oh, but pre-transition he was on that game show.
tim pool
Have you seen that?
@sovereignbrah
Dude, there's a clip going around right now.
unidentified
He's always been looking after fame and like that market for a flamboyant gay guy who is like a theater kid, it's been filled.
So you need to move to the next thing.
@sovereignbrah
So, Tim, it's a clip of Dylan on a game show.
unidentified
Yeah.
@sovereignbrah
I think it's The Price is Right.
unidentified
Yes.
Something like that.
@sovereignbrah
And he's like, the host asked him to guess, you know, which of these five items also costs $5.99.
I saw it last night.
tim pool
Oh, it's Price is Right?
@sovereignbrah
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
@sovereignbrah
And he guesses correctly that it's like a can of soup.
It's for money or something like that.
unidentified
It's like 10,000.
@sovereignbrah
Dylan literally freaks out for like three minutes straight, just like dancing around.
Manically.
tim pool
I'm watching it.
Rolling around on the ground.
@sovereignbrah
Yes, yes.
Dude, he dances for so long and it's so cringe.
unidentified
It's psychotic.
It's not just cringe, it's like kind of scary.
tim pool
This is somebody who's desperate for attention to an extreme degree.
unidentified
Yeah.
And when I look at his videos... It's 40 seconds of him dancing and spinning.
@sovereignbrah
At least.
It's like a minute and a half.
It just never stops.
unidentified
You're mental, you know?
And this is what comprises this big tent movement of trans people.
And a lot of them are okay with it.
They're okay with Dylan Mulvaney representing them, honestly.
It doesn't seem like they have that big of a problem with it.
I'm gonna keep the $5.99.
Keep $5.99.
tim pool
Oh, it's Drew Carey.
Wow, two years ago.
unidentified
Yeah.
And he's acting exactly the same as now.
A year into girlhood.
@sovereignbrah
And dude, he knows exactly what he's doing, because when you watch the clips where he's like, day 300 of being a girl, he doesn't even shave his beard.
And he knows that by not shaving his beard, it's gonna make people freak out.
unidentified
And it's like, normalize the beard, normalize the bulge.
@sovereignbrah
Normalize the beard, normalize the bulge, normalize all of these things that include being male.
unidentified
You know another thing that's really freaky about Dylan Mulvaney is I think that a lot of these people choose not only to... They don't just want to look like a woman.
They don't just want to present like a woman.
They want to present like a certain specific woman that they idolized while growing up as like a little gay boy.
And for Dylan Mulvaney, it's Jackie O.
Or Audrey Hepburn.
Some, like, weird obsession with those women.
tim pool
It's a minstrel show.
It's a clown show.
Yeah.
I see Dylan Mulvaney.
Dylan Mulvaney is doing to trans people and women what minstrel shows were for black people.
unidentified
That's contempt for women.
If you ask a man to act like a woman and he acts like that, that shows contempt.
tim pool
So, like, a white guy putting black makeup on and then running around eating watermelon and fried chicken is what Dylan Mulvaney is doing to trans people and women.
Because, like, I know I bring it up a lot, but hiking heels in the forest.
@sovereignbrah
It's so ridiculous.
tim pool
Like, trans people don't do that.
@sovereignbrah
Yeah.
unidentified
Like, that's a crazy thing.
@sovereignbrah
It's almost like the teacher with the Z-cup fake boobs.
unidentified
It's a caricature.
It's like you're seeing how far you can push it.
tim pool
Well, that's a hoax.
unidentified
Because people are accepting this.
Like, all of the megacorporations, the literal White House, every strata of power, Is behind Dylan Mulvaney right now, and it just seems like what a sociopath would do for fun, like as a hobby.
tim pool
It's a cult.
But let's talk about that Drew Barrymore thing, because you guys saw that one, right?
@sovereignbrah
Yeah.
unidentified
This is disgusting.
tim pool
And this is actually a good segue into like dating and stuff and feminism, because I was thinking about this the other day.
James Lindsay had this really great post where he said, Uh, cis women are learning their place, kneeling before women plus who are better than them.
Something like that?
Bro.
I thought it was really funny and I was like, yo, you know what I think?
I think that's actually the answer, right?
Let me explain.
So, Mary, there's this clip of you on the Whatever podcast where the women are talking about doing OnlyFans, and you're like, you know, your kids did not consent to that or whatever, and she's like, whatever, I can do what I want.
If I was there, my response would have been, yeah, Mary, you're completely wrong.
Like, you're totally wrong about this.
Like, this woman talking about doing OnlyFans is recognizing her place Serving men.
And if she wants to, that is good for men, right?
Like, no, hear me out.
She gets paid because men stand above her smoking cigars, throwing dollars at her naked body because she's property for them.
And that's, finally, these women are starting to now realize.
You've got the story of the woman who was a cop, she quits to do OnlyFans.
There's a story of like a woman, she's like an interior designer, she quits to do OnlyFan.
These are women who are like, hey, wait a minute.
I will get more stuff and live more comfortably if I just get on my knees for men, right?
The point is, not that I actually agree with any of that, but you put them in the position of Are you going to agree with me that you are a servant to men and the only reason you have money is because males are throwing dollars at your naked body?
Yeah.
Or are you going to reject it and be a strong feminist?
unidentified
Their only point that they keep repeating is like, I'm going to be sexualized against my will anyway.
Women are objectified all the time and they don't get to make any money off of it or benefit from it.
So I'm just going to monetize the fact that I am sexualized And that means I'm empowered in doing it, which is obviously stupid.
tim pool
You are.
That is so true.
The world's oldest profession.
You know, men, they do the hard work.
Men, they deal with war and politics.
Women should be in the room on their knees for men.
And I agree with you.
That was a great point.
What are they going to say to that?
They're going to be like, no, I have their money.
Well, only because they choose to give it to you, but like- That's a huge cope.
unidentified
They're like, oh, I'm the one in charge of that interaction.
Yeah, but you can't make food.
You're doing this out of financial desperation.
There's no situation in which you're the person in charge.
tim pool
Let me ask you this though.
@sovereignbrah
Have you guys seen the Don Draper meme where it's like, you know, he's like pitching an idea in the boardroom and it's like, we'll get them to dance naked for the price of a cheeseburger and we'll call it female empowerment.
tim pool
You call it female empowerment, but my question is, Is there an app where you can look at men on their knees?
@sovereignbrah
I don't know and I don't want to know.
tim pool
Well, sort of, but not really.
unidentified
Female nudity and the female body is like more of a valuable quantity.
tim pool
Right, this is my point.
To these women on OnlyFans, my response is, you are an object.
You've accepted your role.
Good for you.
unidentified
They become caricatures of themselves.
See what they say about us.
@sovereignbrah
See how the feminist gears turn.
unidentified
She's got like these ballooned lips and she speaks in this baby voice.
She's like the epitome of a bimbo and not...
Like, not even in an ironic way, she completely embraces that role, but then says that, you know, I'm the disempowered one.
I'm not supporting other women.
Like, no, you're making a mockery of us.
tim pool
I would, I don't like OnlyFans.
But I'm fairly libertarian, so it's like, whatever.
But I'm not, I think it's a bad thing for society.
I don't think it's good for women or women's empowerment.
But my point is simply, if you want to do it, The logical argument is, how does it feel being on your knees for men in order to survive?
I can't imagine that would feel good, right?
And then when they try and argue I'm empowered, I'll be like, yeah, empowered to like be on your knees for a man, but let's be real.
The guy who's giving you the money, he has money.
He produces.
He can do whatever he wants.
And then as soon as you're old enough, he'll forget all about you, but he will retain the skills that allow him to survive, which means by the time you're 35, 40, You're not going to be empowered.
You're going to have nothing.
And that guy who is throwing dollar bills at you, he's going to have a car, he's going to have an apartment, he's going to own a house, whatever, and you will have nothing.
That's it.
@sovereignbrah
Yep.
tim pool
That's why I'm like, you shouldn't be doing that.
@sovereignbrah
Tim, let me ask you a question.
So I agree that it's bad for society, but I want to know in your words why.
tim pool
OnlyFans?
@sovereignbrah
Yeah.
tim pool
Um, I think there's a reason monogamy emerged within human civilization across the board for like basically every society and for every different country.
Like we see very, very similar practices and it's because it increases the likelihood of survival.
I think the reason we're starting to see OnlyFans and things like this is because our massive population explosion, there's no longer any kind of evolutionary pressure to reproduce.
In fact, quite the opposite.
With politics, they're being like, stop having kids and abort them.
So, humans end up chasing after self-pleasure.
Video games, dopamine triggers, and sex.
So what you end up with, OnlyFans, is one grain of sand in this heap of... I'll refer to the beautiful ones of Universe 25, the Rat Utopia Experiment.
What we are witnessing, so you guys familiar with this?
@sovereignbrah
No.
tim pool
Guy put a bunch of mice and rats in a box, gave them unlimited food and water, and watched what happened.
And they eventually destroyed themselves and died.
And then ceased to function.
And when he would take one of the universe 25 rats and put it into a normal rat population, it would retain these behaviors and spread them.
@sovereignbrah
Wow.
tim pool
So what happened was the rats, with unlimited food, would start, some would groom themselves all day non-stop, just keep grooming themselves and poofing up their hair for no reason.
And those were called the beautiful ones.
They would all jam into a pile in one space, crammed together, despite the fact there was a ton of space.
They started engaging in homosexual behaviors.
Then they started dying off.
They weren't reproducing.
@sovereignbrah
- Interesting.
- Literally exactly what our modern scenario is.
This is incredible.
tim pool
- When he would take some of those rats and then introduce them to a normal healthy rat population, they would retain those behaviors and spread them.
So it's like some social contagion existed.
And that's what we're seeing now.
So I view it as we right now with the way things are going need discipline more than ever.
@sovereignbrah
Completely agree.
tim pool
Because we've mastered the universe of humans, and I mean that, I'm not saying literally the universe, I'm saying we can extract sugars and caffeine and compress it into one thing, which didn't exist in nature, and then hop our brains up on sugar and caffeine like crazy.
We make drugs, we cure diseases, we can make ho-hos and ding-dongs, It used to be sugar was hard to get.
Now we literally can take a spoonful of sugar to wash the medicine down.
It's insane.
With that access and wealth, you need discipline.
unidentified
100%.
tim pool
I'll put it this way.
I knew this guy once and he said, the lottery is proof poor people deserve to be poor.
You know why?
Because these people buy golden statues of themselves.
And that was a big thing back in the day.
It's changed a little bit, but some like 40 year old dude wins a $2 million jackpot.
The money's gone in six months.
They would spend it on insane garbage and golden statues and jewelry and other nonsense.
I knew somebody who once won a couple hundred grand in a lawsuit.
It was gone in a few months.
And I'm like, how did you lose that?
You could have put that in an investment account.
They have no idea how to maintain the wealth they've received.
Which is why they say that wealth lasts three generations.
Some person works really hard, builds the wealth, typically it's dudes.
Then they have kids.
Those kids learn a little bit from their parents about how to run the business.
Parent dies, kid has kids, the grandchildren learn vague facsimiles of what was done to run the business, and then after they have another kid, they're spoiled, they've never worked a hard day in their lives, and everything falls apart.
@sovereignbrah
Weak men create hard times.
tim pool
And that's what's happening right now.
@sovereignbrah
Yeah.
tim pool
With all of the shit going on, what's basically happening is we are on the fourth generation, where we've lost touch with what made things good.
@sovereignbrah
100%.
tim pool
And that's why I think OnlyFans is bad.
@sovereignbrah
That was a great answer, thank you for that.
The question on my mind when I hear the Beautiful Ones study and the fact that these mice could be placed into a normal mice population and they begin spreading the social contagion, the question on my mind is how do we as a culture develop an immune system to that social contagion so it doesn't completely take over everything?
Because right now it is completely taking over everything.
tim pool
It is, but...
For the people who live in rural areas, who still have to work hard to survive, it's not impacting them because they see physical hardship.
Whereas with the beautiful ones in Universe 25, it was a box.
You could not escape it.
Imagine if New York had walls around it.
Well, yeah, then everyone in New York's gonna lose their minds.
But we're outside of it.
So basically, the rats that were outside of those experiments just went on doing rat shit.
They're fine.
Rat civilization has not collapsed, just that one city.
So I kind of look at it like, Conversations like this exist because we are people who actually deal with harsh realities and are looking at them and fighting to survive.
And people in cities have become listless and confused.
So what I think is going to happen is, I do feel like the inevitable result is, wokeness and the left completely collapse and eradicate themselves.
And it's horrifying if you think about it.
But they're sterilizing their kids and they're aborting their kids.
@sovereignbrah
And they're eating fake meat and they're like flying into climate change propaganda about not having kids and they're doing other things.
tim pool
They can do whatever the fuck they want, but the end result is gonna be they don't have kids or they sterilize their kids.
@sovereignbrah
Which is why our side needs to have as many kids as humanly possible and be fruitful and multiply.
tim pool
But they're not either.
@sovereignbrah
But they're wondering- We need to change that.
unidentified
Can we vaccinate and sterilize and indoctrinate enough children faster than they are having the children?
That's what they're wondering right now.
@sovereignbrah
That's what they're wondering and we should make a clear answer.
No, you cannot.
We need to outbreed them.
tim pool
I don't think it matters because that's inevitable no matter what.
The end result, you see these viral photos of like, man, the liberals get so crazy about it.
It showed 12 kids all lined up for Tallest to Shortest and the mother was smiling like this.
And then they were like, man, they should tie your tubes or whatever.
And it's just like, That picture is your defeat.
@sovereignbrah
Yes.
tim pool
And like, I don't have kids.
unidentified
The sexual liberation people are like, sterilize her now!
tim pool
Oh no, there's going to be too many of them.
We can't indoctrinate them quick enough.
So I don't really, I don't know if I worry about it too much.
I mean, I think we have to speak up against it because we have to maintain the barrier where we're talking to people and the people who are willing to listen and understand what's happening will be pulled from it.
But the end result, no matter what, whether we talk about it or not, will be the total collapse of this ideology.
That being said, I think conversations like this will protect a larger group of people.
If we weren't talking about it, if we weren't fighting back against it, 10% of whatever group may persist, we talk about it, we could actually save a larger amount of people from the corrupt ideology. - There's another aspect to this that's very interesting to me.
@sovereignbrah
So that clip of me saying that I would not have sex with a trans person because it would make me homosexual.
Last I looked, it had somewhere, this was like a couple weeks ago, somewhere around like 30 million views.
Holy shit, dude!
tim pool
And it's just you being like, I'm a guy, I'm a guy.
unidentified
The fact that this is a message that even needs to be vocalized out loud, you know?
@sovereignbrah
Yeah, yeah, yeah, 100%.
The interesting part about it, like, What I said was so normal, like we're all thinking it, you know what I mean?
unidentified
Andrew Tate's not.
@sovereignbrah
Apparently not.
You just gotta move that shit around and then you're good with Megan Fox.
tim pool
You're not good, what are you talking about?
@sovereignbrah
Prison did things to him.
The point is that, like, as it's gone viral, I've heard from so many people, both men and women, who are like, dude, thank you for saying what we were all thinking.
And guys, like, they've reached out to me and they've been like, dude, like, I saw your clip.
I feel really called to start speaking up against this stuff right now.
And that's the domino effect that I really want to see happen.
unidentified
Especially because you're just a normal person.
@sovereignbrah
I'm just a normal person who said what we're all thinking and that's all you have to do.
I didn't say anything super extraordinary and there's so many guys out there that could say the same thing and they need to.
You guys need to.
That's how we defeat this stuff.
tim pool
I've told this, this will be the third time I've told this story, but it's just too good.
I was at the casino last week.
We're at the poker tables.
And, uh, this guy's got a Bowser toy.
Because, like, when you play poker, people have a thing called a hand protector they put on top of their cards.
@sovereignbrah
Bowser, like, for Mario?
tim pool
Yeah, for Mario.
@sovereignbrah
Okay.
tim pool
And then, uh, somebody made a joke about it.
Somebody mentioned Mario.
Someone then said, is there an evil toad because there's an evil Luigi or whatever?
And then I said, toad is evil.
The mushroom people are actually cordyceps fungus infected people.
Like in Last of Us and everybody laughs.
And then one guy goes like, yeah, you watch that show?
And I'm like, yeah, it's pretty good.
I haven't played the video game.
And he's like, yeah, it's really good.
I really enjoy it.
Except for that one episode.
@sovereignbrah
Where they've got the gay scene out of nowhere.
tim pool
The gay sex scene.
And then everyone looks like shifty eyed at each other.
And then we all started laughing and we're like, I go, I think I know what episode you're talking about.
And he's like, what the fuck, man?
And then other people at the table are just like, that dude should have got kicked out the moment he tried to play the piano.
The episode has a lot of gay sex in it.
And it's just, and like, they show it.
And my point is, regular people sitting at a casino who don't know anything about politics were just like, yo, what the fuck?
I don't, what is this?
Here's the issue.
Look, I got no beef if gay people want to have a movie for gay people.
Like that movie Bros.
Did you see that one?
@sovereignbrah
No.
tim pool
Obviously not the movie, but like the commercials for it.
unidentified
Yeah, and then it did terribly.
And then they blamed straight people.
@sovereignbrah
Oh yeah, now I remember that.
tim pool
Because listen, Okay, what's your favorite flavor of ice cream?
@sovereignbrah
Chocolate.
tim pool
Why won't you buy my spinach asparagus ice cream?
@sovereignbrah
Because it's disgusting.
tim pool
Yes, you're a bigot.
You have to buy it.
@sovereignbrah
I'm a bigot.
tim pool
See, this is the thing.
They're like, why didn't anybody go see my gay bro movie?
And it's like, They don't hate you, they're just not gay.
That's it.
@sovereignbrah
For The Last of Us- Let me ask you a question about when they were talking about that at the bar.
When he said that- Poker table.
Poker table.
When he said that, do you think everybody at the table was thinking the same thing?
tim pool
They were all laughing!
That's the point.
When he said it, everybody starts looking left and right, because you're not allowed to talk politics at the poker table.
Because it's a casino, it's like a public thing.
And so they're like, no.
But so then he's like, that one episode, Because he knows he can't literally say it, and then everyone just starts looking at each other, and they all start nodding, and I start busting out laughing.
@sovereignbrah
See, bro, that's the point.
That's the point, man.
tim pool
We don't want to watch that.
@sovereignbrah
They're trying to put us in this corner to make us convinced that we are not allowed to talk about this stuff, but everyone's thinking the same thing.
I hate this.
unidentified
They want you to think you're the only one who's doubting it.
@sovereignbrah
Yes, that's why they have to spend billions of dollars trying to propagandize everybody, because the reality is that we're all thinking the same thing.
tim pool
I don't think it's that conspiratorial, I think.
@sovereignbrah
I think it is.
tim pool
It's a runaway cult.
It's dominoes falling over, right?
California, everyone virtue signals.
They're all like, I'm the most woke.
No, I'm woke.
So then the politician goes, I'll be woke for you.
The politician doesn't actually give a shit about any of this, but California is proposing a new rule where if there's no, if you don't meet your diversity requirements in your film project, they take away your tax benefits.
@sovereignbrah
Gavin Newsom passed a law too that says you have to have a certain amount of people of color or homosexuals or whatever on the board of your company.
tim pool
Which is insane.
So if you're making a movie and you're Hollywood and they make most of it, then they're going to be like, okay, we need an episode that's got gay interracial sex.
And last of us, 30% of the show is gay relationships.
They spent all of episode 7 on it as well.
all of episode seven on it as well right and so i'm like and i think three and seven i'm like fair point the uh the actress said if you don't want if you don't like it don't watch it and i'm like that's absolutely correct if you don't like it don't watch it me i like the show but i don't much care for that weird injection of stuff so i kind of just glaze over it and ignore it so let me ask you a question the the companies that are doing this making movies like bros or tv shows like the last of us they see that these things aren't popular with the general population
@sovereignbrah
but but these companies also have a capitalist incentive to produce content that makes a financial return And if people hate this stuff and they're rejecting this stuff, why do they keep pumping money into producing this stuff?
tim pool
No, they're stopping.
@sovereignbrah
Are they?
tim pool
Yeah, Netflix is big news.
We talked about the other day.
They're canning a bunch of their woke programming.
So they had this, there's this viral kids show they made about a non-binary bull.
unidentified
I saw this.
tim pool
Cancelled outright.
After one season they're like, nope.
unidentified
Literally, it's a show for toddlers and it's like a bison, a baby bison talking to its grandmother and saying that it wanted to go by Fred because it's more like authentic to their non-binary identity.
Non-binary.
This is for like three year olds.
@sovereignbrah
Interesting.
unidentified
And they canceled it, thankfully, but like, not after years and years of struggling with this and losing subscribers, you can tell that they don't actually care that much about profits.
@sovereignbrah
Yeah.
unidentified
If they're doing this.
tim pool
Well, now they do because now they're reversing and they're canceling a bunch of stuff and their subscribers are going up.
unidentified
They've kind of gone to a point where, like, they can't be taken down, you know?
tim pool
Sure.
unidentified
They keep throwing money at things.
tim pool
Here's what we need to do.
@sovereignbrah
What do we need to do, Tim?
tim pool
We need a write-in campaign to uncancel The Order, the show called The Order.
You guys ever heard of it?
@sovereignbrah
No.
tim pool
Oh, you'd love it.
It's werewolves and vampires.
unidentified
What's the premise?
tim pool
Oh, okay.
unidentified
As I'm like wearing a Twilight hoodie.
Right, exactly.
tim pool
So it's a college and there's, it's not vampires, it's witches and werewolves.
I think there's vampires or whatever.
The villain in season two is a university professor communist who has this like, like basically what happens is he's like, it's not fair that some people have magic.
We should all have magic equally.
And so then I'm like, this is great.
This is exactly the politics that I want in my TV.
They canceled it.
It got two seasons, it got canceled.
unidentified
Do you remember Legends of Korra, the Avatar spinoff?
The equalists.
Yeah, they were the equalists.
They wanted to take Ben Ding away so that everyone would be equal.
tim pool
That was awesome!
This is my idea for a Harry Potter sequel.
J.K.
Rowling might actually be into it now that they're coming after her.
But like, Harry Potter is the most generic shit ever.
It's a fun universe, but it's basically Magic Hitler.
You know what I mean?
unidentified
What?
Magic?
Voldemort.
Voldemort!
@sovereignbrah
Oh, okay, okay.
tim pool
Yeah, he's Magic Hitler.
He's like, everyone must be pure blood!
And then like, that's the whole, and I'm like, we get it.
A bunch of white supremacists are going to war and like you've made a show, you've made a book series about it.
They need to do... J.K.
Rowling should make the next arc of Harry Potter's life.
Here's my pitch.
Muggle governments, you know muggle means, right?
@sovereignbrah
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
Of course.
Muggle governments, of course they're aware of magic.
They've got spies everywhere.
They've got satellites.
They've come to the point where they know, the general population doesn't know.
So what happens is, they start experimenting with technology that can deflect and block magic.
And so then, imagine this.
Harry Potter, right?
The series is, he's an Auror, he like works for the government.
He's in his office in the UK, and then all of a sudden there's a big, a bunch of bangs.
Tear gas flashbangs through the windows, and then a bunch of dudes in full armor jump in with guns.
They're going, pop, pop, pop, just killing wizards.
And they're going like, whoosh, making barriers and shit.
And then they like cast spells and it just dissipates off the armor of these fucking JSOC guys, special forces.
And then basically what it is, is the governments are shutting down the rogue government existing within their government using magic.
So, what happens is, with this new technology that can deflect and dissipate magic, there is a movement of people who believe magic should not be allowed, because it puts some people above others.
So basically the villains are communists, leftists, who are like, these people have used wizarding privilege for too long to lord themselves over us, hiding in secret, and it's time we stopped them, because no one should have that power.
@sovereignbrah
How do the wizards succeed?
How do they emerge victorious?
tim pool
They don't.
unidentified
It ends with... Well, you've got to give the kids something to believe in.
@sovereignbrah
You've got to give them a strategy, you know?
tim pool
The end result, in my view, of that story arc is the merging of the muggle world and the wizarding world, and wizards and muggles living side by side in full knowledge of each other.
And there being laws and restrictions on using magical force against other people.
So it's like, my point is, the end result is more classically liberal.
That some people just have magic and some don't.
You can't destroy them, lock them up and arrest them because they're the tall grass.
You recognize they exist, but we say-- It's kind of utopian, though.
@sovereignbrah
What if the wizards and the muggles would be happier living separate from one another, though?
unidentified
But that's-- oh, yeah.
tim pool
But that's basically the story now.
So JK Rowling is pro-segregation.
So she has to make an integration storyline, as far as I'm concerned.
@sovereignbrah
Wait, J.K.
Rowling is pro-segregation?
unidentified
Has she espoused anything in real life?
She wrote it segregated.
tim pool
Yeah, she wrote a story about how people have segregated each other because some think they're better than others.
Like, even the good wizards still keep separate.
With magic, they could end all war.
Well, it's sort of like Wakanda, right?
Imagine if there were some magic people working in government and they were like, "Oh yeah, we can fix that bridge." "Oh blah!" And then the bridge is fixed.
Instead, they let people die.
unidentified
Well, it's sort of like Wakanda, right?
Like they theoretically have this technology where they could either rule the world tyrannically or be benevolent rulers.
Have you seen the first Black Panther?
an insular culture that just doesn't want anything to do with the rest of the world.
Yeah.
Like, that's just not realistic.
tim pool
Have you seen the first Black Panther?
Yeah.
I think Carl Benjamin called it Adolf Hitler versus Richard Spencer.
Because, like, T'Challa is a black nationalist.
He even says, he is.
He says in the movie, we can't open our borders because those people will bring their problems to us.
But then Killmonger.
unidentified
Interesting how they're allowed to say that.
tim pool
But Killmonger, right?
Killmonger is like, no, we should use our technology and give it to all of the black people around the world and take over.
@sovereignbrah
Interesting.
tim pool
They're both racist!
@sovereignbrah
To go back to what you were saying a second ago, I actually really like the thread of positively propagandizing the youth to understand these Marxist and Communist dynamics that are at play.
Because there's so many stories today that propagandize the youth into believing in Marxism and Communism and all of these oppression narratives and stuff.
And I think storytelling is one of the most important ways to sink like deep lessons about life and culture into people's minds from a young age and like we need to do a lot more of that.
unidentified
How many girls did you speak to that would identify as feminist?
@sovereignbrah
Almost every single one on the podcast, with the exception of those three girls that were sitting next to me.
unidentified
All the girls I was speaking to, none of them would, like, identify as a feminist when we went around the table.
Yet they believe all of what feminists believe.
@sovereignbrah
Why do you think they rejected it?
Do you think because they're like, it's bad optics?
unidentified
I think maybe they were a little bit embarrassed.
Like they didn't want to look any any stupider than they already Yeah, you know made themselves out to be but they all believe the same things that self-professed feminists believe So what's even the point?
I mean, it's it's Santa Barbara, you know, it's I don't think they believe it.
@sovereignbrah
You don't think so?
unidentified
I mean, how do you get Akiko?
That's what I found so confounding about that interaction between you two, because she is caping for literal men who want to masquerade as biological women.
@sovereignbrah
The funniest part of that interaction.
unidentified
And she's furious and horrified at what you've just said on their behalf, and they're not even in the room.
tim pool
Real quick, she's mad that you won't have sex with them, which is really weird.
@sovereignbrah
It was less that I wouldn't have sex with them, and it was more that I called it gay.
Because her imperative was, I have to defend these men being women, and you calling it gay invalidates them being called women.
tim pool
We don't call them same-gender marriages, we call them same-sex marriages.
@sovereignbrah
Yes, exactly.
tim pool
So, if you're both male, it's gay.
Yes, 100%.
unidentified
Well, the ideology has evolved so quickly they can barely keep up and they don't consciously realize as they change their opinions on these things that they're changing their opinions on these things and that's how you get Akiko.
Like, she's been radicalized and doesn't even know it.
@sovereignbrah
The most fascinating part to me about that interaction was the part when she goes, as a biological woman who doesn't even have any trans friends, that was fucked up.
It's like, you don't have anybody to defend here, but you feel so compelled to attack me?
How does that work?
unidentified
And that's honestly when you just have to realize that women are so... They've become weaponized by the ideology.
It's not just children who are easy to indoctrinate.
Adult women are really easy to indoctrinate.
They're very collectivist by nature compared to men.
They're just far more malleable to these ideologies, and that's why they all, like, are in a hive mind together when they get on that podcast.
They're sitting on one side of the table, obviously, and then they just start operating as one.
tim pool
I'd have said to her, I'd be like, lady, you're not gonna shame me into fucking a dude.
That's just it.
And that's no beef to the dude.
unidentified
But that is what made her so angry, is that Chase was just so unbothered by the idea that he's like hateful for saying that, you know?
tim pool
It's crazy to me that like, she demand you have sex with a guy, or she will storm out of the room.
@sovereignbrah
I love it.
It's good content.
unidentified
And she's like, you better let me watch, too!
@sovereignbrah
There's never been a better time to make liberals' heads explode.
You know, another interesting thing about it, too, if you look at the comments of the video, there's trans women in the comments who responded and they were like, dude, honestly, Chase, I didn't have a problem at all with what you said.
Like, I totally respect your position.
It's okay.
I'm not offended.
But she's out there defending these people that don't even care to be defended.
unidentified
It comes from women's, like, pathological need for, you know, feeling like they're altruistic, that they're reaching down.
@sovereignbrah
It's the motherhood impulse redirected towards, yeah, towards the oppressed, marginalized, LGBTQI group.
tim pool
Dude, when I saw Drew Barrymore get on her knees for Dylan Mulvaney, I'd start crying.
@sovereignbrah
So weird, bro.
tim pool
So weird.
And then they show the audience crying.
unidentified
The audience of biological females were just clapping like, or barely crying.
tim pool
And there's only one thing that instantly popped in my head, repeal the 19th.
@sovereignbrah
Yes, dude, let's go!
tim pool
And I was just like, no.
Why is it that, I'm kidding by the way, but.
unidentified
Are you?
@sovereignbrah
Well, you know what's interesting?
tim pool
But women are for repealing 19th.
@sovereignbrah
Yes, that's the part that's interesting.
A lot of women are recognizing that these other women who are voting for all of these things and pushing our country in that direction, Those women are putting normal women at risk by supporting all of this stuff because you have transgender people that are going in women's spaces now, and it's mandated that they be able to do that by law.
You have transgender women that are going to female prisons, and they're raping female prisoners.
And there's a lot of normal women who, ironically, do support repealing the 19th because they see how women having the right to vote is hurting other women, which is a very interesting discussion in our country.
I'm curious where that one's going to go.
tim pool
WeSpa is the best example.
WeSpa was when there's this viral video of a woman being like, there's a man in the women's room exposing his penis to little girls.
And they're like, ma'am, it's a trans person.
There's nothing we can do.
And she goes, no, it's not.
It's a man.
Turns out it was a man, not a trans person who had a history of exposing himself to women.
But because of the whole political debate, they immediately assumed, well, it must be a trans woman.
They didn't even fucking go check!
unidentified
The guy got arrested for exposing himself!
tim pool
There's a political argument.
So the point is this.
If it actually was a trans person, we'd have an argument over what's wrong with these laws.
But the fact is, it wasn't!
It was a guy who was not trans, who wanted to show his penis, Was he even, like, cross-dressing?
My understanding is he was not, and he had a history of doing this and had been arrested for it before.
And they didn't even go check.
The fact that the whole trans argument existed, they were just like, you know?
unidentified
It's the assumption, it's like, oh, you're just being a hysterical woman.
Shut up.
@sovereignbrah
Check this out.
So I used to work as a lifeguard at a pool.
Okay.
We had all these like homeless people in the area.
There's a lot of homeless people in the city.
There's this one guy, this homeless guy, who would come into the pool and he would literally just put a wig on his head, wearing male clothes, like unshaven beard, all this stuff.
He would put a wig on his head and we, by law, I, as an employee, by law, I had to allow him to go into the women's restroom.
tim pool
When?
@sovereignbrah
Where, when, this was like 2019.
Wow.
Yeah, I could not stop him from going into the women's restroom because he was identifying as a female.
And there were, like, little girls in there and stuff.
And, like, every frickin' cell in my body was like, dude, you need to stop this guy.
And my boss was like, if you do, there's gonna be lawsuits against us and you'll probably get fired.
And I'm just like, dude!
Yeah, lawsuits.
Because there's little girls in the restroom and, like, who knows what this guy is gonna do?
And the fact that people like me can't stop it, it's like, what do you do about that?
unidentified
And moms are the ones that are leading the charge now because of that.
@sovereignbrah
As they should.
tim pool
So the issue is, for trans people, Yeah.
Before this whole thing became a major political debate, trans women were using women's bathrooms and no one really ever said anything.
It wasn't a cultural thing.
Then they started passing these laws and now you get people who exploit it.
Like you mentioned the prison thing.
I don't, I'm fairly certain that the stories are inmate identifies as transgender, transferred to female prison, rapes inmates.
I'm pretty sure they're not trans.
I'm pretty sure they're exploiting the law.
unidentified
100%.
tim pool
And because a lot of these guys are not trans, go to jail, and then all of a sudden are like, I'm trans now, can I go to the woman's prison?
Yeah, 100%.
unidentified
But how are we supposed to read their conscience if you genuinely identify as trans or not?
@sovereignbrah
There's examples.
tim pool
It doesn't matter, you just don't do cross-sex prisons.
@sovereignbrah
Yes, there's examples where dudes will get convicted of a crime and then just before their sentencing and their trial and stuff, they will like all of a sudden change their gender just so they can go to a female prison.
unidentified
And how about if you feel uncomfortable being around other male inmates, you can go to solitary?
@sovereignbrah
There's a solution.
Yeah, I think we need to really separate the males and the females and have a they-them section where we can send all these, like bathrooms, prisons.
unidentified
Or we can all just go together.
@sovereignbrah
Just go in there.
tim pool
The answer to everything is gender non-conforming designated space.
So for prisons, there should be gender non-conforming prisons.
That means that biological males identify as female have a space, and females identify as male have a space, and it can be very small.
The budget doesn't have to be big for it.
Bathrooms, you know what the easiest thing to the bathroom debate is?
Single room bathrooms.
@sovereignbrah
There you go.
tim pool
And that's what they're doing now in New York.
unidentified
Even that feels like too much of a concession, honestly.
tim pool
No, dude.
unidentified
Why can't we just enforce that you go in the bathroom with your sex?
tim pool
Because when I go to the bathroom at like a restaurant and the stall is paper thin and some dude's next to me going, I've never said that public bathrooms are like the best thing ever.
unidentified
So give me my own fucking room!
It does feel like a concession to just be like okay we're appeasing you we're gonna make everyone comfortable.
tim pool
Yeah but I win from it.
Like my thing is I go to a restaurant now in New York and there's like three rooms that you go in and lock the door and it's not just about the other guy going It's about me doing that too and not wanting to be around a bunch of people who are like, oh, the smell.
And I'm like, I'm sorry, dude, I just got a shit.
You know what I'm saying?
So I like private, I like private room bathrooms.
Works for everybody.
If the end result is a net positive, fuck it, I don't care.
I'll take it.
But that being said, we should, the solution to a lot of this is like trans leagues.
@sovereignbrah
Yeah, 100%.
tim pool
And the NHL did that.
And conservatives still got mad, and I was like, what are you mad about?
They did a transgender league with trans women and trans men, and they're playing hockey against each other.
And then I saw a bunch of conservatives be like, men shouldn't compete with women.
@sovereignbrah
Honestly, the most entertaining thing would be to see these trans women competing against normal dudes.
I would love to see that in the UFC.
tim pool
They'd probably lose.
@sovereignbrah
Yeah, they'd absolutely lose.
tim pool
Hormones do have an impact.
@sovereignbrah
Absolutely.
But it would be entertaining.
tim pool
Here's the thing, though.
Do you know who Isaac Hennig is?
unidentified
No.
tim pool
Isaac Hennig is a female who was competing on the women's team, swimming, alongside a male competing on the women's team, and trans.
So why is it that a trans man, female, and a trans woman are only competing against women?
So what happened was Isaac Hennig wrote an op-ed for the New York Times saying, I switched to the men's team and now I'm losing.
@sovereignbrah
Interesting.
tim pool
So what the fuck, man?
Like, a female knows that even with hormones and mastectomies and all that, that they still lose against men on average.
And so they were choosing to compete against women because of the benefits of it.
That's like, we know they're lying.
@sovereignbrah
It's so transparent.
Wasn't that guy, Leah Thomas, wasn't he like 180th in the men's league in swimming or something?
And then he became first.
tim pool
No, I think he was actually really good.
Are you sure?
Yeah, I think he was actually pretty high ranking.
@sovereignbrah
While you look that up, do you mind if I use the restroom real quick?
tim pool
Oh yeah, it's right there.
unidentified
Some of these transgender athletes are actually, like, some of the biggest, most muscular dudes out there who would excel anyway.
tim pool
Oh, never mind, 462nd.
unidentified
Oh, that's even lower!
tim pool
That's even worse than what he just said.
unidentified
Yeah, he's just like coping for his mediocrity.
tim pool
In the 200 yard freestyle, 554th.
unidentified
Yeah.
Oh, look, a lot of these like male to female trans people are like huge linebacker dudes.
tim pool
Well, you've seen Superman.
unidentified
Superman.
tim pool
Super Ma'am.
unidentified
No, I haven't.
tim pool
You've never seen that one?
unidentified
I haven't seen it.
tim pool
Where it's like a six foot three male wearing like a pink hoodie and blue jeans and makeup screaming, It's Ma'am!
unidentified
It's Ma'am!
tim pool
Oh, okay, yes, I've seen that.
unidentified
It's sort of like when we would give nicknames to Trigglypuff.
tim pool
No, I think they call themselves Super Ma'am.
They made a song about it called Super Ma'am or something like that.
unidentified
That they would identify themselves after that video came out?
That's crazy.
tim pool
I mean, wait, wait, I respect it.
I'm like, I don't respect the getting angry and slapping, slapping shit around and screaming.
unidentified
That's- But owning it- It's ROID RAGE!
It's the same thing as ROID RAGE.
tim pool
At least they owned it.
I gotta give it to them.
If you get made fun of online and you're like, you got me?
I can't win this one.
I'll be like, I respect it.
Know when they got you.
unidentified
When it's the male to female, I think scary, creepy, a lot of perverts in that pool.
And then when it's female to male, I just think it's sad.
tim pool
I think it's, yeah, I think a lot of the male to female is the AGP stuff and I think a lot of the female is social contagion stuff.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
That's why among trans kids like 85% female to male.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Because it's like social media.
unidentified
But the older ones is mostly male to female.
Older the older trans people right right right usually male to female young I'm saying like yeah among kids.
tim pool
It's girls who are trying to fit in Yeah, and they're trying to get clicks and likes on social media and they're being indoctrinated because one thing I've heard a lot I have two friends people have been on the show have had their daughters come back from school being told they were trans Wow, and they're like they don't know what that means The female-to-male younger individuals, they are kind of retreating from what has become of female sexuality, which is such a gross perversion of what it's supposed to be.
@sovereignbrah
You said the female-to-male individuals?
unidentified
The beautiful and dignified thing it's supposed to be.
The ones who identify female-to-male.
@sovereignbrah
Gotcha, yeah.
unidentified
They're retreating from The mess that has become of female sexuality.
And it's because of the whores that you're talking to on whatever.
Whore.
The who-ers.
Whores.
That are on that show.
That's the representation that we have of women now.
And why would you want to have that expectation set on you to be... That's why we need to bring back godly femininity.
Yeah, like, I don't think they want to be these hyper-sexual, stupid bimbos.
They want to be regarded with dignity, but, you know, they're so horrified.
I think a lot of them turn to transgenderism because it's less frightening in their mind to live as a man, or a second-rate man.
@sovereignbrah
Mary, I think a lot of what it is is attention-seeking behavior and narcissism.
Because you open TikTok, and there's all of these kids that are like, yeah, I'm trans, and everybody's like, you're so brave, giving them crazy amounts of attention.
And they get all this love and attention from all the people around them.
Kids want attention.
A lot of it's attention-seeking behavior.
tim pool
Dylan Mulvaney is this.
That Price is Right video is revealing.
@sovereignbrah
Yes.
tim pool
Like, I've watched The Price is Right.
People will jump up and down and go, I got it!
unidentified
Yay!
tim pool
And then they'll walk away.
Dylan, for a minute and a half, is running around, grabs a pool stick and does like a rowboat thing, falls to the floor and starts rolling on the ground like...
@sovereignbrah
What are you doing?
It goes on like three times longer than it should have.
And honestly, I feel like the people who have genuine gender dysmorphia or dysphoria or whatever, those people are probably not going out seeking shitloads of attention and all that kind of stuff.
They probably are just trying to live their lives quietly.
Most of them, I would imagine.
But the people that really want attention, they go so hard with it.
And to me, it's so transparent, you know?
unidentified
Yeah.
Okay, another thing that I wanted to get your perspective on from your interactions talking to them about OnlyFans.
@sovereignbrah
Yeah.
unidentified
Is like, it's really disturbing how the girls who don't have OnlyFans are like the biggest defenders of the girls with OnlyFans, and that's what I experienced on Whatever as well.
@sovereignbrah
What do you think motivates that?
unidentified
There's this girl who says, you know, like, I've slept with one person, she's never done sex work, she's never done any of that, yet she is one of the fiercest defenders of the girls on the other side of the table who do porn, do OnlyFans, strip, et cetera.
@sovereignbrah
What do you think motivates them?
unidentified
Well, I'm asking you, like, what do you think?
@sovereignbrah
Well, on the last episode I did, episode 33, one of the girls at the table came to the defense of the other girls and she was like, look, ladies, like, if you want to get that bag, go get that bag.
But I'm not going to do it.
And I think the reason why she was like, if you want to get that bag, go get that bag, is because if she takes the opposite position and she's like, no, it's degenerate, you shouldn't do that.
I've seen it with abortion too.
And they would attack, they attack other women.
And like, oftentimes I think if girls don't have strong convictions about this stuff, they do not want to get attacked.
So they're willing to make concessions in order to avoid all of that negative energy and anger and outrage.
That's what I think is motivating it.
unidentified
I've seen it with abortion too.
They say, you know, I would never get an abortion because I feel like it's wrong.
@sovereignbrah
But if you want to do that.
unidentified
But if you do that, you know, that's up to you.
That's your choice, Queen.
@sovereignbrah
I think it's because they don't want to get attacked.
unidentified
I just, I don't respect the moral pussyfooting around.
Like, maybe that's just my personality.
And, you know, honestly, some of the people were pointing this out in the comments that I'm like a disagreeable, outspoken person.
@sovereignbrah
And most women are not.
unidentified
I probably, in another era, would be like the feminist.
I probably would be.
That's just the type of person I am but because we're living in this time period Now I'm like considered like the trad person and I'm like what like I am the opposite of what that is I think you'd be like a local church leader.
tim pool
You'd be like one of the moms who's like complaining about Like you'd be I think you'd be doing the exact same thing But you would just have people on your side in the community as opposed to being anti-establishment Well, I wouldn't have anything to talk shit about, right?
unidentified
You would, you would.
So what would I disagree with people about?
They have this pathological need.
tim pool
The exact same thing you're complaining about now, except there's way more of it today than there was 50 years ago.
unidentified
Totally.
tim pool
So you'd be having meetings and being like, everybody, like instead of three people here, there'd be 50 and you'd be like, I don't know what's going on with these kids or the stuff they're doing.
We got to say no to, I mean, they're putting their naked bodies on TV and posters.
Rock it.
I don't know if I'm gonna roll.
I'm saying like, they're sharing.
Little Janice in high school took a picture of her naked body and was passing it around to boys.
And they were paying her for it.
unidentified
And they would be like, "Oh my God, Mary, what's going on with our city?" My main point being like, all of these generally agreeable, normal girls, not me, they're the ones defending the OnlyFans stuff because they want to go along and get along.
That's how women are.
So like, how are women, if we're the gatekeepers of sex and relationships and everything, going to be leading the charge on like reversing the effects of hookup culture if you can't even verbally justify your own objection to doing it yourself?
@sovereignbrah
That's an excellent question.
And the answer is women are not meant to be the ones leading the charge.
unidentified
Really?
A lot of people were commenting saying like, women should.
@sovereignbrah
Let me finish.
Yes, women should stand up against it.
Absolutely.
Women should embody virtue and be disagreeable when it comes to this degenerate stuff.
However, I believe that's why God designed men.
He created us to lead.
And the problem is that a lot of dudes, a lot of dudes are simps and they're like addicted to sexual stimulation and they don't want to speak up against this stuff.
But the reality is that if enough men vocally are like, look, I do not like women being whores and selling their bodies online and getting ran through and all of this degeneracy.
If enough men say that, and those men are desirable to women, the women will see the men saying that and they'll be like, wow, okay, this is a total disqualifier for me as an individual.
And that's how it changes.
unidentified
But it's not gonna happen because- It can happen.
Most guys that- And it should happen.
tim pool
Guys that are tall, chiseled, wealthy, attractive, or whatever, are like, why buy the cow when I get the milk for free?
Let the whores be whores.
I can have whatever I want, whatever I want.
Yeah, feminism was like the best possible thing for guys.
unidentified
Because now... It benefits a certain type of guy.
@sovereignbrah
If you're interested in the easy fix, for sure.
tim pool
Because now you have guys who have no responsibility but get the milk for free.
It used to be that when the guy banged the farmer's daughter, the farmer would run out with a shotgun and be like, And that's also when fathers cared about their daughters, and unfortunately, you know, the girls that I was speaking to, at least, I don't know about the girls you were speaking to, they don't have their fathers in their lives.
@sovereignbrah
Yep.
The majority of them are like that.
Here's what I would say in response to that.
You say it can't happen.
I say not only can it happen, but it should happen, and God willing, it will happen.
tim pool
Now that it can't, it likely won't.
@sovereignbrah
It likely won't.
Given the same incentives and society and culture that we have right now, on our current trajectory, it won't.
unidentified
Is it over?
@sovereignbrah
It's not over.
We are about to be so back because what I feel like, the calling that I feel like God's put over my life is like, I want to motivate other men to pursue godly principles and virtue so that they can become the greatest men they can be and they can reject the easy fix, getting the milk from the cow for free.
unidentified
And only other men can give them that calling.
@sovereignbrah
Yes, yes.
And also like, Like, God changed my life.
I'm a Christian.
And, like, I used to be the guy who was like, yeah, dude, I just want to hook up with as many girls as possible, all that kind of stuff.
And God, over the years, worked on my heart, helped me see the value of marriage, helped me see how OnlyFans destroys culture, casual sex, premarital sex, all of this stuff destroys culture.
It destroys marital outcomes, right?
You look at the number of premarital sexual partners people have had.
unidentified
It directly correlates with the likelihood of divorce, right?
@sovereignbrah
And you look at our society as a whole, fatherless homes and divorced homes are breaking our society.
The likelihood that a kid is going to end up addicted to drugs or go to jail or not graduate high school or kill themselves drastically increases if they come from a broken or fatherless home.
And I think a lot of guys are waking up to this.
And there's a lot of, especially young dudes, there's a lot of young dudes out there who see what's happening in the culture.
And they hate it, and they want to fix it.
And I want to do whatever I can to motivate those guys to be like, hey, reject the easy fix, pursue the good, pursue the virtuous, ideally godly, biblical life, and we can shift the culture in a different, better direction if enough guys reject all this stuff.
The trick is getting dudes to reject that casual, easy sex that so many guys want.
unidentified
It's the best.
tim pool
Like, women, I think, have been screwed over for the most part, and men have benefited the most from feminism.
unidentified
100%.
tim pool
But it's a short-term gain.
Men have benefited in the sense that they no longer have any responsibilities.
They can stay at home, play video games all day.
They can have kids whenever they want.
They can have kids when they're 80 years old.
They got nothing to worry about.
unidentified
They also have no respect though, which is what men want, is to be respected.
@sovereignbrah
My message to those guys, Tim, is like, I've got friends who live in California.
I'm friends with like a bunch of chads who like just love running through chicks at parties.
Running through yeah, they love to they love to run through chicks I knew so many guys like this in college and stuff and like my message to those guys is like a lot of those guys see what's happening in our culture and they dislike it and I'm like You can either contribute to that or you can get yourself together and do your part to stop it And a lot of these guys realize this and they're like man.
I don't like the horror culture that's emerging I want a good wife Maybe I should get myself together and, like, pursue a virtuous marriage.
unidentified
Have you seen them do that?
@sovereignbrah
Yes, there are guys that are waking up to this.
Absolutely.
unidentified
They've actually, like, they've changed their behavior.
@sovereignbrah
Yes.
unidentified
Okay.
@sovereignbrah
Yes.
unidentified
Because I feel like men are maybe more equipped to do that after promiscuity is, like, their norm.
Unfortunately, I don't know if I can articulate all the reasons why.
@sovereignbrah
I mean, like when I was an atheist before I came back to Christ, like my whole goal was to just hook up with as many chicks as possible and have as much fun as possible.
unidentified
Goal?
@sovereignbrah
Yeah, dude.
I was in college surrounded by hot chicks.
I was like, yeah, dude, I want to hook up with as many of them as I can.
It was like a game that my friends and I would play.
unidentified
I know another thing that's like awful.
@sovereignbrah
But my point is God changed that.
unidentified
It takes disagreeable women to even say no to sex.
@sovereignbrah
Yes.
And it takes virtue.
unidentified
And women just aren't disagreeable enough to do that.
@sovereignbrah
That's not true.
There are a lot of women out there who will reject it.
But their voices are not the ones that the culture is hearing.
The culture is hearing from, like, the whores, you know?
tim pool
Yep.
Because the people who, like Chelsea Handler, right?
@sovereignbrah
Yeah.
tim pool
She made that video where she was like, here's what I do when I wake up and I have no kids.
I do drugs and masturbate at 6 a.m.
That's what goes viral.
@sovereignbrah
That's who people are hearing from.
tim pool
Yeah, I'm like, it's really weird that you would wake up at 6 a.m.
and do drugs and masturbate when you could have just woken up at 10 a.m.
and done it.
@sovereignbrah
Yeah.
tim pool
Wake up early to do it and then go back to bed, but you do you.
That's the message.
And then we get criticized.
She, like, criticizes me and, you know, a bunch of other people.
I said the least mean thing about her.
Like, Ben Shapiro said, she's miserable.
Look at her, that is misery.
And I didn't say any of that.
I said, she's happier than a pig in shit.
Waking up, doing drugs, and masturbating probably feels real good.
But one day, when she's in her late 60s, 70s, she's in a hospital room, the doctor's gonna come in and say, Ms.
Handler, Rip.
"I have bad news.
"It is terminal.
"Is there anyone we should call?" And she's gonna go, "No." Like, "Okay, ma'am, well, we're here if you need us." And they leave, and then she's gonna be sitting there staring at the ceiling with a blank stare with no one as she slowly fades from reality. - Rip. - That's not that far off. - That's nightmarish to me.
I don't want that.
You know, I want people I know and love and care about being like, looking you in the eyes and saying, everything you hoped and dreamed of will persist because we are here to carry on your dreams.
And then I will smile, and then my eyes will turn white, and then I'll turn to dust like a Jedi or something.
But the idea of being in a hospital room with, like, nobody, and then they're like, then the doctor walks back in, Chelsea Handler's dead, and he goes, Miss Handler?
She's dead!
Eat the garbage bags!
Toss her out back.
Throw her in the trash.
unidentified
They'd rather do this Futurama suicide booth than that.
tim pool
I'll do that too, yeah.
@sovereignbrah
Have you guys seen that clip of Tate on Fresh and Fit talking about, like, I think it was his grandmother or grandmother of somebody he knew and how they went to a family reunion and there were like 90 people there or something who had all descended from his grandmother?
tim pool
Yep.
@sovereignbrah
Like, that's the message women need to hear.
I saw there was a- Crazy.
There was an image on Twitter the other day of a woman who, she was like a great-grandmother at this point in her 90s, and she had like 600 children, grandchildren, and great-grandchildren from her lineage.
That's what women should aspire to.
That is awesome.
But the Chelsea Handlers, because they're so provocative with their degeneracy and stuff, that's the stuff that goes viral.
unidentified
There's such a negative message being sent to women right now about becoming mothers as well.
@sovereignbrah
And that's something we have to change.
That has to change.
tim pool
Here's the propaganda film.
It's an old lady, she's in her 90s, and she's walking, and then, you know, there's like a mugger and he goes, pulls out a knife, hey old lady, give me your bag, and she goes, Give my bag to you?
unidentified
Do you know who you're fucking with?
tim pool
And then she presses a button on her phone and then 600 people rise up, all of her children, grandchildren.
unidentified
Her Italian mob.
tim pool
Yeah, her Italian mob family.
unidentified
Let's go.
tim pool
And they're like, what's the problem grandma?
This guy fucking with you?
unidentified
Let's go.
And then the guy's like, no, no, no!
@sovereignbrah
Yeah, that'd make a fantastic short film.
tim pool
Actually, it would be funny if, like, the Don, it's Grandma Don, and she's the mob ruler just because they're all her kids and grandkids and great-grandkids.
@sovereignbrah
It's too feminist.
It's too feminist, bro.
tim pool
Yeah, that'd be cool.
But it's actually, that message speaks to men, not women.
Like the idea of power and fighting like that.
So I was reading this thing about movies and how the male power fantasy is to be the hero saving everybody and the female power fantasy is to do whatever you want and win in the end.
That's why.
Movies men like, it's the guys, the underdog, and he's like fighting against the evil villain to save the busload of children.
That's the male power fantasy.
The female power fantasy is that she has a good-paying job, she can do whatever she wants, she goes and gets coffee in the morning, buys cake, and then she fucks around and then finds the good guy and ditches her other guy and then she's getting laid in the top of the company.
@sovereignbrah
No, I think that's the PSYOP female power fantasy.
I think the true female power fantasy for women that are in alignment with their nature But I think you're right, and that's why these movies typically have both, right?
"the hero, whatever," and then he loves her and commits to her, and then the two of them like go on a journey together.
tim pool
I think that's, would you say that's accurate? - Yeah, yeah, being like a help meet. - But I think you're right, and that's why these movies typically have both, right?
Spider-Man, you have Mary Jane Watson as a story arc, and you have Spider-Man as a story arc, And Mary Jane is trying to be an actress, and she wants to be with Peter, but Peter is torn.
So the narrative that works for both men and women is the guy who wants to do his job and do right by society, but is also struggling to do right by his partner, his woman.
And then the woman and what she's experiencing emotionally, both of those things are like speaking to men and women.
Now movies are, you know, the woman has big muscles, And is punching a zebra.
@sovereignbrah
Captain Marvel.
Did you see Captain Marvel?
tim pool
It was terrible.
@sovereignbrah
Dude, it was so ridiculous.
Control your emotions.
Dude, in Captain Marvel, they intentionally made all of the men completely incompetent and stupid, and she just like can do everything at all times, and none of the men can do anything.
tim pool
And the narrative is, the man says, you need to control your emotions.
That's what he says to her in the beginning.
And then finally in the end, she goes, no.
and then like powers up and he's like, "What? No!" And then she like blasts him or something. - It's kind of the same thing as She-Hulk. - She-Hulk was awful, wow.
I mean, we got, you know, the problem is we did not cheer for Captain America.
That's the problem.
Captain America comes out and it's this scrawny dude who's like, I love my country so much, I'll jump on a grenade for it.
And we're like, that's cool.
When we should have been like, make more movies like this.
Make more movies where the hero is the scrawny guy who's weaker than everybody, who refuses to back down and believes in his country so much, he volunteers to, he desperately tries to join the military.
Captain America is a movie about a dude who gets rejected like five times and is lying on documents desperately trying to serve his country.
And we didn't come out and say, this is the greatest movie, every child should watch this.
We went, meh.
And then when they make the woke bullshit, we go, that's stupid.
Well, we got to celebrate the good shit.
You know what I mean?
@sovereignbrah
That's why I freaking love Top Gun, bro.
unidentified
When I saw Top Gun, I was like, dude, America is back.
@sovereignbrah
We need to protect Tom Cruise at all costs.
tim pool
And it made like a billion dollars.
@sovereignbrah
Yeah.
And I think the formula why it was so interesting, because we see all these movies with all this woke nonsense.
And then finally, we have just like a classic, traditional, all-American male hero.
And we've got a classic, traditional woman who's his love interest.
unidentified
He gets the girl in the end.
@sovereignbrah
He wins.
He gets the girl in the end.
He saves the day.
You've got a bunch of normal, attractive people, not a bunch of fatties and weirdos that they're pushing on you.
You saw Top Gun, right?
tim pool
Yeah, of course.
@sovereignbrah
When they had the beach football scene and everybody's in shape and having fun and stuff.
I was like, bro, where has this been?
This is amazing.
We need more of this.
tim pool
Yup, now it's like morbidly obese people They're not fat enough.
unidentified
They're not representative enough.
tim pool
Do you see the viral clip of the fat guy on the plane?
@sovereignbrah
What happened?
unidentified
He's just like, it's hard for us big people to travel, but you're, you know what?
If you're watching this and you're fat, you're just as worthy of traveling as anyone else.
And he's like barely fitting into his seatbelt, like the airplane bathroom.
tim pool
And then there was the Sydney Watson thing where she was trapped between two fats and you could see like the fat pouring over and she's like, how is that allowed?
unidentified
If you're that large, just get two seats.
tim pool
Dude, I was on a plane once, and the guy to my right was 400 pounds.
He was huge, and he was pouring over.
And then the food cart comes up, and the lady's like, would you like to buy any food?
And I'm like, uh, what do you have?
And she was like, you know, snack box, chocolate, sandwiches, meats.
And I was like, what kind of sandwich?
She's like, it's chicken salad.
And I was like, I'll have a chicken salad sandwich.
And the guy to my right goes, I'll have a chicken salad sandwich as well.
And I'll have the snack box.
I'll have two snack boxes.
And what else do you have?
Do you have chips?
I'll take two bags of chips and then I'll have two Cokes.
Can I get the two?
I can only get one Coke now.
I'll do another sandwich then.
And I'm just like, holy shit.
@sovereignbrah
You should have stopped that guy, bro.
tim pool
Hey man, you know what, dude?
unidentified
People need to feel a little more ashamed of themselves these days.
@sovereignbrah
Yes, we need to bring back the culture of shame.
That's, well, that's the thing.
With, yeah, with like the OnlyFans stuff, like, dude, when the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade and all that, I like, I dropped like the hardest, most savage Instagram story ever on my personal Instagram.
Just roasting whore culture and All of these girls that I went to high school and college with slid into my DMs and they were like, hey, hope you're doing well.
I disagree with your views, but just hope everything's cool.
Because all of these girls who were whores in high school and college and afterwards, they saw the fact that a guy was shaming all of this and they desperately wanted to save face and they didn't want to be perceived as these things.
There is value in bringing back shame and guilt.
unidentified
Birth control and abortion have completely taken the risk out of having sex with strangers.
Except for STDs.
I don't know if a lot of people like, well yeah, STDs too, but like a lot of people even in that audience of whatever or podcasts like it, people who generally agree with like red pill dating philosophy, they're still not getting on board with like the real truth of the matter.
I was getting pushback on the show because I was saying like, You can't have premarital sex and then expect to have the same ability to pair bond afterwards.
@sovereignbrah
Which is such a reasonable position.
unidentified
They were all saying, you know, Mary's just taking it a little too far.
@sovereignbrah
So ridiculous.
unidentified
And even they were shaming the OnlyFans girls, the whores, the sluts.
They're shaming them for sleeping around, but at the same time, they want to keep their ability to do the same thing.
You can't be hypocritical.
tim pool
It's all or nothing.
The average OnlyFans chick makes no money.
unidentified
It's like a hundred dollars a month or something.
I'm sure the median is even lower.
tim pool
So a friend of my friend said that she was tired of working these low-paying jobs.
She was struggling to make ends meet so she's gonna do cam girl stuff because she thinks she'll make a lot of money and then get to break out or whatever.
She made no money and she made porn and put all over the internet and now Congratulations!
People have copied and shared your porn for free, you've put your naked body doing weird sex shit on the internet that will be there forever, you could never come back from it, and you made nothing for doing it.
That's so brutal.
unidentified
How many women has this happened to?
It's still not worth it.
It's spiritually and mentally corrosive.
@sovereignbrah
Yes.
How many women have done OnlyFans?
Do we know?
unidentified
It's probably, you know, if you really looked at it, not that many.
It got pretty bad during the pandemic because people were like, you know, losing their jobs and not able to pay rent and then turned to that as the last solution, which is really sad.
@sovereignbrah
Society starts falling apart and millions of women just instantly turn to prostitution.
unidentified
The oldest profession is actually the oldest form of subjugation.
@sovereignbrah
Yes, yes it is.
You said 2.1 million?
tim pool
2.1 million.
The most popular account is Bella Thorne.
unidentified
That's why everyone advertises top point whatever percent on OnlyFans because you have to be in a top 1% to make a living off of it.
tim pool
And then Cardi B a second.
I don't think they're doing sex stuff though.
That's like celebrity excess stuff.
@sovereignbrah
Yeah, I think it's just like showing their tits and stuff like that.
tim pool
Bella Thorne?
unidentified
She made a million dollars on the first day she was on the platform just posting like bikini photos.
Wow.
Yeah.
@sovereignbrah
Yeah, I don't know.
But there is something I want to bring up.
So, you know, we're talking about, like, bringing back shame culture and speaking up against all this stuff.
And what's extremely obvious to me in this entire dynamic is that, like, when that clip of me saying I wouldn't have sex with a trans person because it would make me gay went viral, I got so many messages from dudes in particular who were like, man, seeing your video makes me want to speak up against this stuff.
And it's obvious to me that the more people that speak up against this stuff, the more members of the silent majority actually express how they feel about these things, that is what will enable us to begin shifting the culture.
But the problem is that a lot of people want to say these things, but they're worried that they're going to get fired from their jobs.
unidentified
Right.
@sovereignbrah
And like, I got a message from a guy the other day.
He's like, dude, I'm a father.
I'm a husband.
I spoke up against some of this stuff, just basic conservative values.
And people came after him to try and get him fired from his job.
And he was like, look, this is affecting my long term career prospects.
Like, this is a problem.
unidentified
More than it would if he had an OnlyFans.
@sovereignbrah
Literally, and he's like, dude, do you have any recommendations for me?
One of the coolest things that's happened in the past couple of weeks, in terms of people sliding into my inbox, shooting me opportunities and stuff after going viral, The guy who founded NoVaxMandate.org, his name is JP, he reached out to me and he was like, bro, I want to create a platform where people can network professionally with other companies or business partners who are aligned in values so that we can get people career sovereignty so that they can begin speaking up against all of this different stuff.
He reached out to me, he was like, bro, I wanna- J.P.
tim pool
Sears?
@sovereignbrah
No, not J.P.
Sears, he's awesome though.
What is his Slash name?
Valadez.
unidentified
Okay, Valadez.
@sovereignbrah
Valadez.
Valadez or Valadez.
He was like, yeah, I want to create a platform where we can basically connect people.
Almost like LinkedIn, but for just based people.
tim pool
Well, you know Public Squares?
@sovereignbrah
Yes.
unidentified
There's Public Squares, Newfoundland.
@sovereignbrah
That's essentially like a directory of businesses, from what I understand.
tim pool
But they have a social component where you can... Do they?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
@sovereignbrah
That's awesome.
So he reached out to me.
He was like, do you want to help me found this company?
I was like, bro, absolutely.
Because we need more people working at careers and jobs where they can actually speak up against this stuff.
So for everybody listening, we're building this right now.
We're building two apps.
There's based pros.
Which is basically based LinkedIn for people who are like us, who reject all this stuff.
tim pool
Based pros.
@sovereignbrah
Yeah, based pros.
And then we're also building base dating for people who, like Christians who are unvaccinated, looking for other Christians who are unvaccinated, or you don't have to be Christian.
You could be a different religion.
Just looking for people that are aligned with all this stuff and reject like global homo and everything that's being pushed on us.
tim pool
There's been a lot of attempts at that, though.
There's a conspiracy theorist dating website now.
There's a few of them.
unidentified
A conspiracy theorist dating site?
Oh, that just sounds like a mess.
tim pool
That sounds like fun, though.
@sovereignbrah
What's cool, though, we've got a lot of momentum and a lot of support behind it.
And if people want to build that career sovereignty and they want to find like-minded people that they can ideally get married to, start having kids with, if people are interested, they can go to getbase.org.
You can pop in your email.
Getbase.org.
Pop in your email.
We're sending out updates.
We're building the platforms right now because we need people that are able to speak up against this stuff.
And, dude, you guys see the people on the whatever podcast.
You guys see the girls.
One of my biggest struggles living in California has been finding like-minded women who are not whores.
unidentified
Go to church!
@sovereignbrah
Well, I have, but there's not a tremendous amount of young women at church, particularly super attractive ones.
Increasingly, it's older people who go to church.
tim pool
Think about what that means in 30 years.
There won't be churches.
Churches will be converted into grocery stores or something.
@sovereignbrah
I reject that.
That will happen over my dead body.
tim pool
There's a church down the street here that's a coffee shop now.
@sovereignbrah
That's a shame.
tim pool
It's a good coffee shop.
They got heavy whipping cream so I'm happy.
@sovereignbrah
This is exactly why Christians need to get together and have as many babies as possible so we can take back the culture.
unidentified
It's what they've always done.
tim pool
So we got AI swooping in, right?
I think this is like apocalyptic in terms of all the crisis stuff.
People are going to AI generate porn and use VR and Neuralink stuff.
I'm not even talking about the deepfake stuff.
They're outright just going to be like, plug my brain in and say, give me a hot 24-year-old woman who is a Starfleet command officer and, you know, whatever.
unidentified
100%.
tim pool
That's it.
@sovereignbrah
So weird to think about.
tim pool
Once they plug in, humans just cease to exist.
@sovereignbrah
How far away do you think that is?
tim pool
Well, Neuralink, I don't know.
The AI stuff is already happening.
They're already AI-generating.
So we played this the other day on IRL.
AI-generated using Mid Journey, a woman in a space, like a space captain or something, and she's got like white hair.
It's like pushed to the side.
Then they used a program to make a fake voice.
Then they used the voice and the image to create a voice animation, an image animation.
So they actually have her talking, saying, I am an AI-generated person, blah, blah, blah.
@sovereignbrah
It's like Blade Runner 2049.
tim pool
And people are, it's gonna be real time where these depressed young men are gonna be like, Siri, make me feel better.
And then a picture will appear and she'll go, hey babe, how are you doing?
You know I miss you.
And then she'll start saying sex shit and the guy will get off to it.
@sovereignbrah
That's so dystopian, bro.
unidentified
And there'll be no real person.
tim pool
So dystopian.
unidentified
And we're talking about like the knurling stuff in The Mark of the Beast, actually, last night.
@sovereignbrah
This is a good conversation.
unidentified
Real.
@sovereignbrah
It's coming.
It's coming.
tim pool
So here's what I see having happened with dating.
It used to be that 20-year-old guy, 20-year-old girl, both in college.
20-year-old guy goes to a party, 20-year-old girl goes to a party, they meet, they hang out, they hook up, maybe they start a relationship, maybe they get married, whatever.
Dating apps come out.
First, it's websites like OkCupid.
Now, 20-year-old guy, 20-year-old girl are hanging out, they go to a party, and they meet.
And she's like, he's cool.
But then, a 30-year-old guy slips into 20-year-old girl's DMs, and he's like, hey, what's up?
You seem really cool.
Why don't you come hang out in my loft and take a look at the lake with me sometime?" And then she goes, oh shit.
Hey, sorry dude, I gotta go.
It used to be that the 30-year-old guy with money, a job, a car, an apartment, and whatever, had no access or limited access to college girls.
Now, because of dating apps, he has instant access.
So these guys in college have zero access to these women.
They have limited because... So here's what happens.
Girls on OKCube, or Tinder, says, this guy's cute, swipe right.
This guy's cute, swipe right.
Bing!
Two messages appear.
20-year-old guy says, yo, you seem pretty cool.
We should totally hang out.
I go to UIC as well.
She goes, yeah, totally, for sure, me too.
30-year-old guy says, hey, you seem really cool.
You should come hang out at my loft sometime.
It overlooks Lake Michigan.
And then she's like, wow, that's really awesome.
Then, both message.
What are you doing tonight?
Are you free?
And she says to both, I'm free, what's the plan?
And the guy at UIC says, come hang out at my dorm with me and my roommates, we're watching a scary movie.
She goes, that's cool.
Then the other guy goes, I'll pick you up in my convertible, we'll go out for dinner, and then we can go sit by the lake.
And she goes, fuck yes.
How is a young man supposed to compete with that?
He can't.
@sovereignbrah
Game.
tim pool
Dating apps.
@sovereignbrah
He's got a developed game.
tim pool
I'm sorry, dude.
It's like, yes, I can understand that.
unidentified
You probably shouldn't have said come hang out at my dorm with my friend.
tim pool
But this is what college is!
What's he supposed to say?
We can sit on the roof.
@sovereignbrah
Alright, here's what I'll tell you.
tim pool
No, no, no, listen, listen.
You can talk about game.
But on average, a 20-year-old guy does not have the money a 30-year-old guy does.
@sovereignbrah
No question.
tim pool
Which means he's gonna be making an offer to a girl, which is going to be dramatically lower than you could even have a 5'7", kind of squeaky 30-year-old guy.
And the money and the wealth goes a long way.
Now imagine this.
Imagine the dude's actually got his own Cessna or jet or plane and he goes, ditch the little boys and fly my plane with me.
That's so rare, though.
@sovereignbrah
That's so rare, Tim.
Like 30-year-old dudes with Cessnas or planes or whatever, that's so rare.
tim pool
I'm giving you an extreme example.
But what I'm talking about is literally happening, it's a fact.
@sovereignbrah
The Washington Post talks about how- Bro, the chicks on the whatever podcast, you've got chicks, they're attractive, but they're not extraordinary or anything.
They've got 20,000 followers, they've got NFL players and NBA players sliding into their DMs, blue checks with millions of followers.
tim pool
How is a college guy supposed to build a relationship when he's competing with an NFL player?
@sovereignbrah
Well, I mean, honestly, if a college dude is looking for a relationship with a chick who's having NFL players slide into her DMs, that's probably not a girl that you want to be in a relationship with.
tim pool
No, no, you're wrong, bro.
It's not about that.
You see, that's an extreme example as well.
Average 20-year-old woman gets two messages.
One guy, let's say he's 26.
@sovereignbrah
I think you think this is happening more often than it is.
There's huge reports about this.
Yeah, but I also know a lot of dudes in college.
tim pool
30% of dudes are 30 years old and virgins.
@sovereignbrah
That's so gnarly.
unidentified
Really?
tim pool
Because they can't compete with older guys.
The dating apps...
@sovereignbrah
Wait, you said 30% of dudes are 30 years old and virgins?
tim pool
Over 30, you mean?
Like 30 and over?
So a few years ago, the report was 29-year-old men on average, a third of them were virgins, had never had a substantial relationship or a sexual relationship.
Wow.
And it's because if you're 22, I'm not talking about NFL players.
I'm not talking about slags who are like, I didn't get laid tonight.
I'm talking about a regular, normal college-age girl, and a 28-year-old guy is like, I got a car.
And she goes, cool.
And the college guy says, I don't.
And she goes, sorry, bro.
Guy's got a car.
@sovereignbrah
I mean, dude, I'll tell you this.
I went through something similar when I was 19 years old.
There was a girl that I was with.
We had to break up because we were long distance.
She moved 6,000 miles away.
And there was a guy who was, I think, a couple years older than her, but he had a lot of money, a lot of resources, came from a rich family.
you know, was opening a super nice clothing store in Amsterdam and stuff.
And he swooped her right after we broke up, and it freaking broke my heart.
But what I did when that happened to me is I was like, okay, this is just, it's human nature.
It's like the rules of the jungle when it comes to dating.
Women are hypergamous.
They will pursue, you know, the best option that's available to them.
That's just part of human nature.
tim pool
And they should.
unidentified
Well, the problem is when there's this illusion of endless hypergamy, endless options forever, no matter what.
@sovereignbrah
If I may finish my point, I just want to finish this.
When that situation happened to me, it lit such a fire under my ass to never let anything like that happen to me again.
And I just worked as hard on myself as a man as I possibly could to develop sovereignty in my life.
And then I got to the point where I was like, I developed game, I developed confidence.
Yes, I'm competing with dudes that are super wealthy and stuff, but like, I know who I am as a man, and when I'm talking to a girl, I've got enough confidence talking to her to the point where I'm—yeah, if a guy like that slides in and she's open to it and she's material and vapid like that, it's like, okay, that's good for me to know upfront.
It's good for me to know upfront that you're going to fall for a guy like that.
Truly, if a guy has enough confidence and he treats a girl the way that, you know, she likes to be treated and she wants to be treated and she views him as high value, regardless of him having a bunch of wealth and stuff like that, he's going to be able to keep her.
And that's what guys have to do, you know?
tim pool
So you have to be the best version of yourself possible.
@sovereignbrah
Yes.
tim pool
Because you're competing with shitheads who got money.
@sovereignbrah
Yes, and you have to be realistic about the fact that those guys that you're describing are out there, and you are competing with them, and you kind of have to be detached from the outcome.
tim pool
It doesn't change the fact about my point, though, that dating apps opened this door.
@sovereignbrah
Yes, they do.
tim pool
And completely changed the landscape.
@sovereignbrah
Yes.
tim pool
And what's happened now is there are some guys who don't have the ability to attain that next level, where they normally would have found a relationship, they can't anymore.
@sovereignbrah
I disagree.
I disagree.
Every guy can work on himself to make himself the best version of himself.
tim pool
Yes, yes, yes.
And I'm saying sometimes the best version of a guy is a 5, not a 10.
@sovereignbrah
So be it.
And so... Be the best 5 you can be.
tim pool
Exactly.
And he's still going to be losing out because of these dating apps.
Because the technology has changed the playing field in such a way, this guy normally would have had a much larger chance.
@sovereignbrah
I'm not saying... But that's been all of human history.
Like, most men haven't reproduced throughout human history because you've always had the chads.
Like, nature is extremely harsh and selective.
tim pool
Yes, yes, yes, yes.
And my point is, dating apps have just stretched that curve.
And I think a huge component of why guys aren't having families and why women are sleeping around is because of these dating apps.
Because guys can now send a thousand messages, they can swipe right.
This is what guys do on Tinder, they just swipe right non-stop.
Every single woman.
Because for women, they can swipe right on whoever they want, and they will get a message.
Men won't.
They have to swipe right on every single one, and then finally when it's like, you have a match, they'll go, eh, she's ugly, delete.
Like, eh, not good enough.
@sovereignbrah
You know what the solution to the problem that you're describing is?
tim pool
A meteor crashing into Earth and just vaporizing the atmosphere and wiping out all life as we know it?
That would be a solution.
That would make the problem stop.
@sovereignbrah
If that meteor is the best dating app ever made, yes.
And that dating app is called Base Dating.
See, here's the thing about something like Tinder.
Chicks go on Tinder not to find a marriage or to find a really good relationship.
They go on Tinder to find guys that wanna have sex.
And so they can get laid.
That's who you've got on Tinder, okay?
Chicks go on apps like that and they're like, how am I gonna find a good guy here?
We're creating an app where people can align with people based specifically on their values.
So if you're, you know, if you're a girl looking for an awesome guy who you want to get married to, you're not going to find him on Tinder because Tinder is not optimized for that.
It's optimized for sex.
We're creating something where men can actually find women That are good women and women can actually find men that are good men because that's been the crazy thing that I've discovered over the past few weeks.
Since those clips went viral, there was another clip that went viral.
Did you see the one with me arguing with a girl about how I was going to make a woman my wife?
tim pool
No.
@sovereignbrah
Oh man, yeah, this was on episode 28 of the Whatever podcast.
I basically, I made this statement at some point, you know, when I find the girl that I want to make my wife and this chick is like, what do you mean make her your wife?
She has a choice too, you know.
Her and I started arguing back and forth and I was like, look, I want, I don't want a girl who's wearing tiny dresses going to the club, you know, getting hit on by guys.
I want a woman who doesn't want those things.
I got so many messages from women after that who were like, holy crap, I didn't realize there are actually guys like you out there who don't just care about sex, but who actually want like a wholesome woman.
And I got so many dudes out, I had so many dudes that reached out to me and they were like, bro, I didn't realize like there were other dudes out there who actually cared about these same things.
There's a lot of men and women out there who are looking for people with like wholesome values and they don't know where to find them, And it's not on Tinder.
It's not on these other apps where people are meeting up for casual sex.
We're creating a platform where those people can meet.
unidentified
Are you saying that you wanna make your dating app platform because the other ones that attract people of this mindset are based on religion?
You think that there needs to be one that's not really specific to any type of religion?
@sovereignbrah
Well, the best one I've seen is the right stuff.
I went on the right stuff and I went on Upward.
Which one?
What do you mean?
You said unvaccinated?
Yeah, unvaccinated.
and stuff.
And like, for me, one of the biggest things when, you know, picking a wife is whether or not she's vaccinated.
That's a like really important component for me.
That's a super important variable.
And like none of these one, what do you mean?
tim pool
You said unvaccinated?
@sovereignbrah
Yeah.
Unvaccinated.
tim pool
But what if she has like a bunch of other ones?
@sovereignbrah
I mean, if she got the ones that we get as kids, it's like, whatever, I got those too.
But there's like no dating apps that optimize for that.
And there's so many people, or maybe they exist, but they have like a thousand members.
There's so many people.
tim pool
Yeah, if you went on Tinder and said you weren't vaccinated, they'd probably like fuck with you or something.
@sovereignbrah
Yeah, the right stuff like kind of lets you like get into that a little bit, but like there's really no good ones that let you focus on that.
tim pool
Well, the issue is probably that the Google Play Store will delete your app.
unidentified
100%.
@sovereignbrah
So what we're doing... Are you familiar with how Gab.com has their mobile app?
tim pool
Yep.
@sovereignbrah
Yeah, so you, like, open it in Safari, then add it to your home screen.
Functions is a native app.
tim pool
And on Google, you can just download the APK.
@sovereignbrah
Oh, okay, nice.
tim pool
Yeah, so if you have Android, you go to the website and click download, the app installs.
That's why iPhone sucks ass.
@sovereignbrah
JP, we need to look into that.
I'm sure he probably knows how to do that.
But yeah, that's our solution.
unidentified
But I don't know.
@sovereignbrah
The other apps, they're not that great.
tim pool
I mean, look, I think a lot of these things are self-correcting problems.
Liberals abort their kids and sterilize their kids.
They're like lemmings.
They'll march off a cliff if they're told to.
So it's like, it kind of feels... I don't know.
unidentified
There are so many single mothers out there.
tim pool
For sure.
unidentified
Raising dysfunctional kids who then turn into more single mothers.
Yep.
@sovereignbrah
It's a self-perpetuating cycle.
unidentified
They're still gonna be reproducing.
tim pool
If we get rid of all this socialist policy stuff, the problem wouldn't exist.
It couldn't exist.
It can only exist because we've created this, like, safety chamber.
You know what I mean?
@sovereignbrah
Yeah.
tim pool
So if we just start peeling back entitlements and welfare programs, then a lot of the stuff just stops.
@sovereignbrah
I got a question for you.
What do you think about, like, the central bank digital currencies and stuff that are coming?
tim pool
Uh, I don't care as much as a lot of people think.
Like, they think it's the end of the world.
You know?
I think it's gonna be bad.
@sovereignbrah
You don't care if the federal government can just shut off your bank account?
tim pool
They can do that right now, and they've done it.
@sovereignbrah
But it's easier if it's centrally controlled, and they can just flip a switch.
Like right now, they have to contact the bank and be like, hey, we want you to shut this down, and then the bank has to comply.
We're talking about centrally controlled federal digital dollar.
You don't see that as a huge problem?
tim pool
It is a huge problem.
I'm just saying, I don't think it's the apocalypse like a lot of people think it is.
I think it's just a big problem.
So it's like on a scale of one to 10, it's like a six or a seven, whereas people think it's a 10.
I'm like, I know it's bad, but like, they've already got extreme amounts of control as it is.
This is a grain of sand in a bad direction.
It's not, you know, kill switch engage, right?
@sovereignbrah
You know why people think it's the apocalypse, though?
tim pool
Was it?
Because of the Mark of the Beast?
@sovereignbrah
Yeah, because the Bible prophesied that something like that would happen.
tim pool
But it said that you'd have to have the mark of the beast to buy or trade, and that already exists.
It's called the Swift payment system.
@sovereignbrah
No.
The Swift payment system does not get implanted on your wrist or on your forehead.
tim pool
Yeah, but the CBDC isn't going to do either.
@sovereignbrah
Are you sure?
tim pool
Yes.
@sovereignbrah
What makes you so sure?
tim pool
Why?
So that's like saying I could also hypothesize that the transfer mechanism will be on a balloon tied to your back that floats above you that you have to pull down and press to a machine.
It's like equally nonsensical to make up a reason why they would do it that way.
What's likely going to happen is...
@sovereignbrah
But nobody's making up a reason that they would do it that way.
They're explicitly telling us.
unidentified
They've never said they're going to put it on your forehead.
tim pool
That's never been a thing.
@sovereignbrah
In fact- Have you seen the clips of Klaus Schwab?
There's like three of them at Davos saying, yes, we are going to have microchips implanted into your brains.
And they're currently working on- That's Neuralink.
tim pool
That's not putting something on someone's hand or forehead.
@sovereignbrah
You're right.
Well, who knows if it's going to interface with your forehead.
We don't know.
We don't know.
tim pool
But the point— Like the base of the neck.
@sovereignbrah
I mean, if you look at Sweden, for example, they're implanting microchips in people's hands right there.
tim pool
Ten years ago they did that.
Verichip did that over ten years ago and it never took off because nobody wanted to get a chip implant.
And because it caused problems for medical technology, things like MRIs.
And so they keep trying to do this thing where they put the chip in your hand and you can like wave it and it'll pay your bills or whatever.
And no one cares because your phone can already do all of that.
So people talk about, it's going to be on your hand or forehead.
It's like, no, it's in your pocket right now, literally spying on you, tracking your every move.
And you take your phone and you go, dude, you walk up to a, you can walk up to a 7-Eleven, take your phone and go boop and buy your, buy your shit with it.
Not only that, they're already doing hand print at some Whole Foods, where one time you scan your hand and it links it to your account, and then whenever you're buying stuff, you just boop your hand.
Now, if you're talking about the Mark of the Beast, there's no mark there, but at least your hand is making the purchase.
@sovereignbrah
You know how I think they'll try and navigate it and execute it is, I think that, are you familiar with Event 201?
tim pool
Vaguely elaborate.
@sovereignbrah
So roughly a month prior to COVID-19 being released into the world, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, Johns Hopkins University, and the World Health Organization staged a pandemic simulation event where they specifically simulated a coronavirus pandemic being released onto the population, and they were like, what would we do if this happened?
And basically In the simulation, they did exactly what they did in the actual pandemic, which is they had all of the heads of media and heads of state coordinate their messaging, push the population towards mandatory vaccines, and they just happened to stage this coronavirus pandemic simulation a month before the pandemic.
I think it's because they absolutely knew that it was going to happen and they intentionally released it on the population.
Anyways, Bill Gates has made multiple statements in the past few years that there will be a second pandemic, and it will be bigger and deadlier and worse.
tim pool
Biden did too.
@sovereignbrah
Biden did as well, and they had leaders at the G20 summit say this as well.
tim pool
Bird flu.
@sovereignbrah
What'd you say?
tim pool
Bird flu is already spreading, the news is already coming out, they already did the gain-of-function research, and it's got a 60% mortality rate.
@sovereignbrah
Whoa, that's gnarly.
tim pool
H5N1, they did gain-of-function research starting in 2011.
It was considered controversial.
They were intentionally trying to make bird flu transmissible in mammals.
They succeeded, and now we are seeing... Who's they?
@sovereignbrah
Who's doing this research?
tim pool
A university.
unidentified
Was it funded by Fauci?
tim pool
I don't know if it was by Fauci.
Let me pull up H5N1 gain-of-function.
We've covered it quite a bit.
It default auto-searches.
Fauci and Kawaoka, science.org, controversial experimental gain-of-function research was being done.
Let's see, where was it being done?
I have this from science.org.
They wanted to modify bird flu viruses so that could infect humans.
The U.S.
government proposed two experiments at two labs.
They don't say which labs though.
It was the NIH and the NIAID.
Yep, one of the projects received funding from the NIH and the NIAID.
@sovereignbrah
Was this it?
tim pool
In Bethesda, Maryland.
Holy shit, that's really close!
@sovereignbrah
That's so gnarly.
That's so gnarly.
So yeah, so they're doing stuff like that, and at this G20 summit where they said that there would be a second pandemic, Joe Biden and all these other world leaders signed a declaration of intent to agree to digital vaccination passports for the coming pandemic, okay?
So that same group that hosted event 201, Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, Johns Hopkins University World Health Organization, they just staged another pandemic simulation called Catastrophic Contagion.
This was in October of 2022.
It was for like a Sears virus, like S-E-E-R-S, a respiratory pandemic, another one, that specifically is more deadly for children and leaves them with like brain damage and paralysis and all this kind of stuff.
tim pool
Catastrophic contagion, a global challenge exercise, PDF.
@sovereignbrah
It was basically the exact same thing that they did with Event 201, where they just magically predicted that there would be a second COVID-19 pandemic.
They did this same kind of simulation, I believe this is coming probably within the next two to five years, and I believe that they will use this to push the digital vaccination passport system, all of that kind of stuff, and I think that they're going to use these pandemics in order to push technologies that will digitally verify, biometrically verify, whether or not people have been vaccinated so that they can regulate travel and all of that kind of stuff.
That's how I think they're going to push some sort of implant system.
tim pool
If there is a 60% mortality rate virus sweeping across the planet, would you take the vaccine?
@sovereignbrah
That's a very loaded question.
tim pool
60% as in?
@sovereignbrah
Is the vaccine like the COVID vaccines were?
Is it rushed production?
tim pool
No idea.
I don't want to, like, I think the contents or whatever you think about the COVID is irrelevant to If we are watching people drop dead, 60% of people, people you know, getting sick and then like vomiting and dying in a matter of days, and they come to you and say, trust us, take this vaccine or you will die, would you take it?
unidentified
No.
tim pool
That's it?
There you go, that's your answer.
Nothing more to add to it, just this question.
@sovereignbrah
Would you?
tim pool
I don't know, I don't know.
We talked about this on IRL because if it was airborne Ebola, would you take it?
There's an airborne Ebola virus spreading rapidly, liquefying your insides and making you vomit black goo.
And they say, this is the vaccine for it.
You will die unless you get it.
unidentified
And it's mRNA.
tim pool
I don't know.
I don't think that matters.
It does.
@sovereignbrah
It absolutely matters.
tim pool
It doesn't because you're not an immunologist, a vaccinologist, you have no idea what these things are.
@sovereignbrah
What, the vaccines?
tim pool
Like, when you go to the doctor and the doctor says, I'm prescribing you Flobagopstabop, do you go, whoa, hold on there a minute, I know exactly what you're talking about, because I read online.
No, you go, thanks, doc.
But when it comes to mRNA, there's a political contagion, where it's like, people are like, well, I know what mRNA means, and I heard a guy on the internet say it's bad.
That's why I'm saying it doesn't matter what they call it.
And if they know that people are gonna be like, mRNA bad, then they're gonna call it something different.
And they're gonna say, no, this is a QFC vaccine.
@sovereignbrah
Look, here's my problem with it, is like, I'm not a fan of anyone trying to force some rushed, developed therapy with brand new technology onto me that could have long-term health implications that might make me infertile, all that kind of stuff.
tim pool
Not my question.
@sovereignbrah
Yeah, but all of that factors into it.
tim pool
I didn't say they forced it on you, I said they told you, if you take this, otherwise you'll die.
Would you take it?
unidentified
You'll die of the disease or at the hands of the government because they're executing you?
@sovereignbrah
Let's go.
tim pool
The disease will kill you.
@sovereignbrah
That's the question.
tim pool
I said quite literally they're not forcing you to take it.
@sovereignbrah
So they're not rounding us up and putting us into quarantine camps?
tim pool
The question is simply this.
Bird flu hits.
60% of people are dying.
And then they say, if you want it, it's here.
@sovereignbrah
Yeah, I'm taking my wife and kids and we're jetting to the mountains.
tim pool
Yeah.
Yeah, let's go live in the mountains and then fly.
unidentified
What?
You can't fly.
tim pool
So you won't be able to fly.
I mean, and so what will what will likely end up happening is The people who are vaccinated or survive it will be immune, and it may then spread to the human population, but you will never be able to make contact because you don't have immunity unless you want to take that basically two-to-one chance of dying.
@sovereignbrah
Bro, I'm already preparing for this, man.
Like, I see biblical prophecies about the end times coming true all around us.
There's so many of them with, like, almost perfect precision fulfillment.
tim pool
Like, what else?
@sovereignbrah
Well, the Mark of the Beast one, we can get into that.
We were talking about it last night.
There's some crazy, crazy stuff going on with that.
tim pool
The issue with that is, with the Mark of the Beast— Wait, wait, wait, hold on, hold on.
@sovereignbrah
I'm already preparing myself mentally, physically, emotionally, spiritually, financially, to literally be cut off from civilization.
unidentified
Because the Bible tells—I see all this biblical prophecy coming true— We're half doing that, too.
@sovereignbrah
What'd you say?
tim pool
I said, we're half doing that, too.
@sovereignbrah
Yeah, we are.
And I see all this biblical prophecy coming true, and it says the Antichrist will rise, and anybody who doesn't worship him is getting cut off from the global economy.
I'm like, okay, check.
Everybody who gets the Mark of the Beast is going to hell.
That's what the Bible tells us.
I will never get that, so I'm mentally preparing myself to be cut off.
tim pool
The problem with this is, you can go back every decade and find people saying exactly what you're saying.
@sovereignbrah
Yeah, for sure.
tim pool
In the exact same way.
@sovereignbrah
For sure.
But you can't go back every decade and find companies filing patents like Microsoft filed in April of 2020.
Which one?
unidentified
You're not claiming that the COVID-19 vaccine is the mark of the beast.
@sovereignbrah
No, I'm not.
unidentified
But what you're saying is like it's a precursor or a warning or an incremental step.
@sovereignbrah
It was like a prototype It was like a cultural prototype for the mark, in a sense.
I'm not saying that the COVID vaccine is the mark of the beast.
I'm saying they use this problem reaction solution paradigm to test how people are gonna respond to tyrannical mandates, to see whether or not people will accept them or if they'll reject them.
And they're using all of this, these pandemics, the solutions to them, they're using all of this to push us towards a new world order system.
tim pool
You know why?
@sovereignbrah
Yeah, because they want to do it.
tim pool
Well, that's not it.
Why do they want to do it?
@sovereignbrah
Why do they want to do it?
Are you asking me because you know the answer?
tim pool
I do know the answer.
@sovereignbrah
What's the answer?
tim pool
They're trying to invoke the return of Christ.
They're intentionally fulfilling the prophecy.
@sovereignbrah
Now we're getting somewhere.
tim pool
That's actually what many of them are doing.
@sovereignbrah
Who are they?
tim pool
Davos Group World Economic Forum types.
So they're international elements that are Christian that believe in order to invoke the return of Christ, you need to fulfill the prophecy intentionally.
@sovereignbrah
You think they're Christian, or do you think that they're Satanists who understand the power of Christ?
tim pool
They're Christians.
@sovereignbrah
So, like, when I look at Jacob Roth— Not all of them.
tim pool
You know, not every person involved in various businesses that are implementing various international programs believe this, but there are a lot of very powerful, wealthy people who have talked about how the intent is to fulfill the prophecy.
unidentified
The thing, though, is I didn't realize you had this aspect to you.
@sovereignbrah
This is exciting.
I like this.
tim pool
Like reading shit online all day every day?
@sovereignbrah
No, well, I mean, what you just described could be considered a serious conspiracy theory that they're intentionally trying to bring about the fulfillment of revelation.
tim pool
There are a small handful of people that have talked about fulfilling prophecy.
And it's not a conspiracy theory.
It's like a rich guy said he was doing it.
I'm not saying he's correct.
I'm not saying it will work.
And I'm not saying that Pfizer and Moderna are doing it for those reasons.
I'm saying there are people who are like, ooh, if I help do this, then it might make Christ come back.
And I'm kind of like, yeah, that dude's crazy.
Because it's not.
Because that's not.
But here's the other thing too.
I've read a bit about Revelation.
I've read a bit about what it is.
And There are many people who believe it was simply a prediction of literally the government at the time of the writing of the Bible.
So that it was not this story about how in several thousand years these things will happen, it was literally talking about what was happening.
So these things had happened and they wrote them.
@sovereignbrah
There's people who make that argument, however... And think about this too.
tim pool
To a person who grew up in a world where you could walk, there were no laws, there were no rules, outside of the city limits, banditos existed, and you could trade anything for anything?
Then one day, the Caesar comes to you and says, you can only use these coins for trade that have my mark on them.
And they go, the mark!
He's saying we can't trade unless we use the mark!
To them, that was a mark.
To us, we have Visa and MasterCard imprinted on all the cards in our wallet, and that's what you have to use.
Discover barely works anywhere.
So, based on how you interpret what the Mark of the Beast is, we are marked to shit already with everything.
And you can't have a bank account unless you have a social security number.
So I can argue the Mark of the Beast came 70 years ago.
To a person who didn't have a social security number, they're going, the government is going to mark us with a number and we can't buy or trade or work unless we have it?
Bro, the Mark of the Beast was almost a hundred years ago.
@sovereignbrah
So here's, I've heard that argument.
Here's the problem with that argument.
The Bible describes all of this being executed by one individual called the Son of Perdition, okay?
He's prophesied in the book of Daniel, the book of Revelation, the book of Thessalonians.
It is an individual who is going to be one of the most charismatic leaders the world has ever seen.
He's specific.
unidentified
Trump!
@sovereignbrah
He's specific.
There are people who believe that.
There's an interesting case to be made for it.
Shout out Donnie Darkened on Twitter.
Very interesting account.
He's going to be a very charismatic leader.
He's going to be an economic genius, a military genius.
He's going to have a distinct physical appearance, and he's going to speak great blasphemies against God.
tim pool
So Trump!
I don't know about the book.
unidentified
Has Sean done that?
@sovereignbrah
Shout out Donnie Darko.
tim pool
No, and he's not a military genius either.
unidentified
Yeah, he's not a genius.
@sovereignbrah
Well, you could make the case that he does have military genius.
You look at his foreign policy.
Abraham Accords.
Abraham Accords, which also, interestingly, is fulfillment of biblical prophecy.
tim pool
And there was that one time he was at that rally and he said, I am the Lord your God, the return of the Messiah.
And that was pretty surprising.
@sovereignbrah
I haven't seen that one.
I'm kidding, you never said that.
But there are, like, dude, people have had billboards where, like, they call Trump, like, the Anointed One, the Son of God.
There's, like, books that call him the Messiah.
unidentified
There's even Christian art where Jesus is, like, crowning Trump or, like, watching over Trump in the Oval Office.
Have you seen that stuff?
@sovereignbrah
No, I haven't.
Have you ever seen the painting at the Denver airport?
Have you guys seen the painting?
tim pool
Yeah, of course.
@sovereignbrah
Have you seen the one where all of the countries are handing over their swords to be destroyed by the little blonde boy in the middle?
tim pool
With an iron fist.
@sovereignbrah
Yeah.
tim pool
He has an iron fist he's raising up.
@sovereignbrah
He looks like a little blonde, like, boy version of Trump.
It's kind of weird.
It's kind of weird.
tim pool
So Trump was always the answer.
And Biden is the problem, reaction, solution to get us to vote to re-elect Trump.
@sovereignbrah
Well, you know, we were talking about this last night, you know what's interesting about the whole Trump-Antichrist angle?
I'm not saying I believe Trump is the Antichrist, but there's interesting theories around it.
It was Alistair Crowley, I believe Jack Parsons, possibly L. Ron Hubbard as well, they did a magic ritual, a sex magic ritual called the Moonchild Ritual, which was intended to bring into incarnation the Antichrist in human form.
tim pool
Did it work?
@sovereignbrah
Well, they performed this ritual, and the following full moon was a blood moon, and Donald Trump was born.
unidentified
No, and then say the rest, say the rest.
@sovereignbrah
I believe, I might be off on the numbers, but I believe after that as well, it was 911 days after that, the nation of Israel was founded, and the Antichrist has a strong connection to the nation of Israel, biblically speaking.
tim pool
As does Trump.
@sovereignbrah
As does Trump.
Oh boy!
And on top of that... Biden 2024!
And on top of that, he was born 70 years, 7 months, and 7 days prior to being inaugurated President of the United States.
On top of that as well, him and Jared Kushner signed the Abraham Accords.
tim pool
What is this Twitter account you're talking about?
@sovereignbrah
Donnie Darkened.
Donnie Darkened.
tim pool
Donnie Darkened?
@sovereignbrah
Yes.
Yes, it's very fascinating stuff to look into.
There's so many data points.
unidentified
Trump says he lives on the 66th floor of Trump Tower, but there's only 58 floors to Trump Tower.
@sovereignbrah
- Does he really? - Trump says he lives on the 66th floor of Trump Tower, but there's only 58 floors to Trump Tower. - When did he say that?
I don't know if I believe that.
Fact check all of this.
Look into all of this.
tim pool
I'm just repeating what I've heard.
Donald Trump is the chosen antichrist.
They have been foreshadowing this for centuries.
Here is the proof.
Read pinned thread before interacting with my profile.
unidentified
Bro, I'm going to get so much hate on Twitter.
tim pool
It's better.
It's better.
It says 70 years, seven months and seven days after Trump's birth, he would be inaugurated as the 45th president of the United States.
Seven months after his inauguration, the great American eclipse would occur on August 21st, 2017, and would divide the US in half in a seven year period.
And then it shows the two different solar eclipses crossing 2017 and 2024, April 8th, 2024.
@sovereignbrah
I believe they also, like, the paths, it also went over, like, multiple towns that were called Salem, which is short for Jerusalem, which is, you know, the Bible says that the Antichrist will rule the world from Jerusalem.
On top of that as well, like, another interesting data point.
tim pool
So, like, Jared Kushner purchased... Dude, do you know what Donald Trump means in, I think it's Scottish Gaelic?
@sovereignbrah
What?
tim pool
Herald of the world ruler.
@sovereignbrah
Really?
tim pool
- No joke. - Really? - Donald Trump literally, so Donald means the ruler of the world and Trump means to trumpet.
unidentified
Really?
tim pool
And so it literally means the beckoning sound of the ruler of the world. - So he could possibly be the false prophet.
@sovereignbrah
He could.
Donnie Darkin thinks that Elon Musk might be the false prophet.
unidentified
I don't know.
tim pool
Well, he's claiming Trump means the usurping ace.
I looked this up because people are saying Donald means leader of the world, but Trump comes from the trumpet sound.
Like, it means, so it's like they're heralding in the world ruler.
It's the herald of the world ruler.
So it could be Baron Trump.
@sovereignbrah
So check this out.
So this is where it starts to get really interesting.
And again, I'm not convinced that Donald Trump is the Antichrist.
I think that it's a very, very interesting angle, but I personally believe transhumanism will be a big part of like all of the end time stuff.
Like what you were talking about, people merging their consciousness.
tim pool
Holy shit, Trump did say I'm the chosen one.
@sovereignbrah
Yeah, he did.
unidentified
What?
@sovereignbrah
Yeah.
unidentified
Okay.
Wait, wait, look.
$500 billion.
tim pool
$500 billion.
unidentified
Ripped it out of the United States.
And not only that, if you take a look, intellectual property theft.
tim pool
Add that to it.
unidentified
And add a lot of other things to it.
So somebody — excuse me — somebody had to do it.
tim pool
I am the chosen one.
Somebody had to do it.
unidentified
So I'm taking on China.
I'm taking on China.
tim pool
I remember when this came out, and to be fair, he's making a joke.
And for people to take that and be like, he's proclaiming he's the Messiah or something, it's like, come on, dude.
He was like, somebody take on China.
Nobody would do it.
I'm the chosen one.
I guess I have to.
@sovereignbrah
Well, and the other, like, I've hosted a few Twitter spaces with Donnie about this, Donnie Darkin, to try and hear his perspective on it.
And one of the reasons why I push back on this theory is because the Bible explicitly tells us that the Antichrist will speak great blasphemies against God, and he will elevate himself above God.
And Donald Trump has specifically said, like, he's made very positive statements about Jesus Christ, saying, like, you know, God gave his Son for the salvation of the world.
You think it's barren?
unidentified
Barren hasn't said anything.
tim pool
I know, he's too young.
Donald Trump means the herald of the world ruler, it does not mean the world ruler himself.
@sovereignbrah
So you think it might be Barron?
tim pool
Barron literally references Barron, like he is the Barron, you know what I mean?
So I don't actually think anything of it.
But I would say Donald Trump means herald of the world ruler, and he has brought forth, it could be Don Jr., but Barron Literally is a word that means, like, ruler, like, you know?
And world ruler in Donald is different from what a baron is.
A baron could be a negative thing, you know?
Like an oil baron could be a bad guy who controls things with force.
@sovereignbrah
It's a good point.
tim pool
Do you know about the Ingersoll Lockwood books?
@sovereignbrah
Yes.
That's some crazy stuff, man.
tim pool
They say that Barron Trump lived on 5th Avenue and the socialists and communists came from the Lower East Side and rioted at his building?
unidentified
The time travel stuff?
Yeah, dude.
@sovereignbrah
Well, what's interesting about that, too, is Jared Kushner purchased an office building at 666 5th Avenue.
In New York City, and then on top of that as well, you can find information online.
People say that there was a company that was headquartered there at 666 Fifth Avenue that was called Lucent Technologies, and apparently a couple decades ago, they were manufacturing RFID chips to be implanted into the human body.
And then you add on top of that as well, Jared Kushner.
unidentified
At that address?
@sovereignbrah
At that address, yes.
Which is a strange coincidence.
On top of that as well, Jared Kushner is on record saying that he is an advocate and supporter of transhumanism, and he might be part of the first generation that never has to die.
tim pool
Donald Trump's famous 666 hand gesture, that's a new one.
The okay hand sign, 666.
unidentified
Yeah, I don't know if I buy into that.
@sovereignbrah
But the transhumanism angle when it comes to the end times, I think that's, to me, that's the one that I look out for the most, because I believe that the promise of the Antichrist will be Basically, Neuralink and transhumanism.
Hey, if you get this stuff implanted into your body, you'll be able to live forever and you'll have God-like intelligence, right?
That's the promise of transhumanism.
That is the exact same promise that the serpent gave to Eve in the garden when he tempted her with the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
He said, surely you will not die.
God is just trying to hide this God-like knowledge from you.
Just take it and then you'll be like God, right?
tim pool
That's what Satan- He said, you will become one of us.
@sovereignbrah
Is that what he said?
tim pool
Something like that.
@sovereignbrah
Yeah.
And God at that moment in time is like, yo, we have Adam and Eve that are living in rebellion to me.
They can't continue to eat of the fruit of tree of life because they'll be in eternal rebellion to me with God-like knowledge.
That's like a disaster waiting to happen, right?
And you look at that temptation in the garden, it's the exact same temptation with transhumanism.
unidentified
So realistically when transhumanism starts gaining traction, isn't it still only going to be accessible to the super rich and that's how they would want it to stay?
@sovereignbrah
So that's a great question.
I don't think so.
Because of Microsoft's patent.
Which one?
- Which one? - I think that trans-- - Which one? - 060606, that patent. - April 26th of 2020, Microsoft was awarded an international patent for a device that connects to your body, it reads all of your biometric data, and in exchange for your biometric data, it gives you access to cryptocurrency.
Right.
Okay.
Prophecy of the Mark of the Beast, what does it say?
Something that connects to your body, lets you buy, sell, and trade.
And the number of the mark is 666.
This patent that Microsoft was awarded had the international patent number 060606.
And I called a patent attorney about this because I was like, dude, How did they get this patent number?
What is happening here?
This is pretty spooky.
He told me that that number would have been randomly assigned to Microsoft for this patent by International Patent Offices.
unidentified
Except it is W-0-2-0-2-0-0-6-0-6-0-6-A-1.
tim pool
W-2-0-2-0-2-0-6-0-6-0-6-A-1.
W-2-0-2-0-2-0-6-0-6-0-6-A-1.
unidentified
- 0202-0060606A1. - W2020, that's the year designator.
@sovereignbrah
The 060606, that's the specific patent number. - Right.
Yeah, it is, it is.
And so I asked a patent attorney about it, Tim.
He said that that patent number would have been randomly assigned to Microsoft, which tells me one of two things.
This is either divine fulfillment of biblical prophecy, or there's Satanists working at Microsoft that bribed people international.
unidentified
Or just LARPers.
@sovereignbrah
Yeah.
tim pool
All right, man.
Well, I don't know, we're gonna start to wind it down, I guess, but do you have any, like, concluding thoughts on that whole arc of, Satanism or whatever, I mean.
@sovereignbrah
Yeah, Jesus Christ, there's abundant evidence that Jesus Christ was a real person who actually resurrected from the dead and is actually the Son of God.
tim pool
Is he coming back?
@sovereignbrah
He's absolutely coming back.
If people want to find out more about that, I was an atheist, I became a Christian after I read a book called More Than a Carpenter by Josh McDowell.
It basically lays out, this book was written by a guy who tried to disprove Christianity, and in the process of trying to disprove it, he realized all the evidence was in favor of it being true.
He lays out all the evidence in the book.
I read it.
Realized that it's irrefutable, in my opinion, that Jesus Christ is actually the Son of God.
Became a Christian.
I would just encourage everybody, turn to Christ.
He offers you eternal life, and in the forgiveness of your sins, in faith and belief in Him, you can have eternal life, and that'll be very important to hold on to in the years ahead.
tim pool
You want to shout anything out before we wrap up?
@sovereignbrah
I just want to shout out the bras in the Bra HQ.
My boys, love you guys.
I want to shout out GetBased.org.
If you guys are interested in based pros and based dating, you can sign up there.
And follow me on Twitter at SovereignBra.
And I just want to thank you for your time, bro.
tim pool
Yeah, thanks for hanging out, man.
Yeah, I'm Mary.
You want to shout anything out?
unidentified
Sure, my Instagram and Twitter are both Mary Archived.
I've been getting a big response to my clips from the Whatever podcast, so thank you if you've been a part of that, if you've supported me after that.
Yeah, it's been wild.
And I'm glad I got to talk to you, Chase.
@sovereignbrah
Yeah, me too.
This is awesome.
I also want to shout out Brian Atlas.
Thank you for having me on the show, opening up all these opportunities.
And for everybody who's following me on Twitter and like praying for me and offering support, I just want to thank you guys so much.
I really appreciate it.
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And for everybody, if you made it this far, we got a Discord that's officially up.
You can hang out and have academic conversations on these issues, because we don't want to get banned from Discord, but we want to have some contentious conversations.
Become a member at TimCast.com, join the Discord, and then share your ideas, and we're going to start utilizing this community for the content we produce, so guest suggestions and things like that.
You can follow me at TimCast, and thanks for hanging out.
We'll see y'all next time.
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