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On April 8, 2026, Washington Journal examines a Pakistan-brokered ceasefire between the U.S., Israel, and Iran contingent on reopening the Strait of Hormuz. President Trump's ultimatum to destroy a "whole civilization" preceded strikes on Iranian bridges and Karg Island, while Pentagon plans targeted uranium recovery and civilian infrastructure. Amidst calls for impeachment from Senators Ed Markey and Representative Yasmin Ansari regarding Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, Vice President JD Vance warned Iran of further economic pain. Despite the truce, Israel continues fighting Hezbollah in Lebanon, highlighting the fragile stability of the region. [Automatically generated summary]

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Iran Ceasefire Negotiations 00:13:11
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On the Artemis II mission on its way back from traveling around the moon, the crew is scheduled to splash down in the Pacific Ocean Friday.
Then at 6, Colorado Congressman Jason Crowe and former House Speaker Kevin McCarthy at a forum hosted by Harvard University.
Over on C-SPAN 2 at 8 a.m., Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth and the chair of the Joint Chiefs, General Dan Kane, brief reporters on the conflict with Iran after the U.S., Israel, and Iran agreed to a two-week ceasefire if Iran opens the Strait of Hormuz.
At 9, Ralph Nader and constitutional lawyer Bruce Fine host lawmakers, scholars, and activists to analyze impeachment and its modern-day implications.
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Coming up on C-SPAN's Washington Journal, we'll talk about the latest developments in the war in Iran following President Trump's threats for Tehran to reopen the Strait of Hormuz and his announcement of a two-week ceasefire.
First with Washington Examiner defense reporter Mike Brest, then with the American Enterprise Institute's Michael Rubin.
And later, we'll continue the conversation with Adam Weinstein with the Quincy Institute for Responsible Statecraft.
Washington Journal starts now.
mimi geerges
Good morning.
It's Wednesday, April 8th.
We are on the air an hour early today because of major developments in the Iran conflict.
President Trump announced a two-week ceasefire with Iran last night, about 90 minutes before the 8 p.m. deadline he had set for Tehran.
The pause is contingent on Iran agreeing to a complete and immediate reopening of the Strait of Hormuz.
Pakistan brokered the deal, serving as a go-between for the two sides.
The president had warned earlier in the day that, quote, a whole civilization will die tonight if no deal was reached as U.S. and Israeli strikes hit bridges across Iran and the key oil hub at Karg Island.
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Welcome to today's Washington Journal.
We're glad you're with us.
Before we get to your calls, we're going to speak with Mike Brest.
He is a defense reporter for the Washington Examiner.
Mike, welcome.
And thanks for joining us early this morning.
unidentified
Thank you for having me.
mimi geerges
So get us up to speed.
What happened last night?
unidentified
So as you mentioned, about 90 minutes before President Trump's self-imposed deadline to make a deal or face total destruction, he announced that there had been a framework reached to pause the destruction he had warned about.
And he gave essentially a two-week ceasefire and announced a two-week ceasefire that was brokered by Pakistan.
And so at this exact moment, we're trying to understand how exactly the president has been able to rectify what we've seen as his 15-point plan versus the Iranian 10-point plan, which are very starkly different.
And so at this moment, we're trying to sort out exactly who's agreed to what as both sides are trying to sell that they won this negotiation and that they've won this conflict.
And the President of the time is going to tell.
Go ahead.
mimi geerges
I was just going to say the Pentagon had been preparing for a major attack just in case that this agreement wasn't reached.
What was involved in that?
What do you know about what the Pentagon was planning?
unidentified
So there were several different options that seemed to have been on the table, ranging from whether we're talking about potentially a U.S. invasion of Karg Island or other islands that are in the Strait of Hormuz, which Iran has effectively shut down over the course of the conflict.
There were also possible talks within the administration about whether the U.S. should try to undergo a very complex mission to try and find and recover the 900 pounds of enriched uranium that is underground in Iran at the facilities that the U.S. destroyed last June.
So that was another possibility.
And we also heard from the president talks about the U.S. going after civilian infrastructure or potential dual-use infrastructure like bridges or railways, which can be used for military efforts about transporting supplies and munitions.
mimi geerges
You also reported on the rescue of the airmen that had been shot down over Iran.
What can you tell us about that?
unidentified
So as you mentioned, there were two, an F-15 was shot down on Friday.
The pilot of the aircraft was recovered within a matter of about six hours.
The other person aboard that F-15 spent about 48 hours, or a little less than 48 hours, deep within Iranian territory as both U.S. and Iranian military officials tried to hunt for this individual.
And so the individual was able to disguise themselves and hide within a crevice in the rough terrain in that area until he was able to correspond or let his officers know that he was okay.
They had to verify that it wasn't a trap.
And then they eventually were able to go in and recover him and rescue him and take him out of Iran.
And this was a very complex effort.
There were over, according to the President and Secretary of War, over 100 aircraft involved in this operation.
And obviously, given the complexity involved, they had to shut down all other unrelated operations to ensure no one was hurt accidentally.
mimi geerges
The article that you wrote about this, Mike, has the headline lingering questions from the F-15 crash and dramatic rescue operation.
What are those questions in your mind?
unidentified
So to me, one of the big things that this incident sort of showed was that even if Iran's capabilities had been reduced, they still have some capabilities and they still have potential technologies that we may not have seen yet in this conflict.
And so not only were the Iranians able to shoot down this F-15, they also were able to shoot down an A-10.
That pilot was safely able to eject into friendly airspace and was recovered and safely as well.
But to shoot down two U.S. aircraft within a matter of hours for the first time in a conflict that's now gone on for more than five weeks raises some questions about whether they are potentially getting assistance from some of their allies.
We've seen reporting that they've been in communication with Russia about targeting.
We don't know if there's any link there.
We also don't know exactly how degraded Iran's capabilities are versus are they instead actually potentially trying to conserve what they have left to take more direct or potentially more impactful attacks on the U.S.
Now, a lot of these questions at least have been put on pause as the ceasefire has gone into effect and we'll now see negotiations begin.
mimi geerges
And Were there injuries sustained in that rescue operation on the American side?
unidentified
So the service members that were involved in the accidents to begin with, we've heard suffered some injuries.
And we also heard that some of the people involved took gunfire.
And it seems like there will be no fatalities.
However, there were a handful of pilots who were injured during the mission.
mimi geerges
All right.
And what are you going to be watching over the course of this two-week ceasefire, Mike?
unidentified
So a big thing right now actually has to do with Israel.
How will Israel factor into this two-week negotiation?
We heard that they will abide by the two-week ceasefire in Iran, but they're still very much at war with Hezbollah and Lebanon.
And so I think there are a lot of broad-reaching dynamics that we're about to see unfold.
Something that is also, I think, important to note is that the IRGC or Iran's military capabilities and forces often are decentralized.
And so there's a possibility we could see attacks for the next couple hours simply because Iran does not have the infrastructure at the moment to be able to communicate with all of the field commanders all over the country.
mimi geerges
So they might just not know about the ceasefire and continue fighting?
unidentified
Yes, so we've actually already seen that very briefly with we heard from the Kuwaiti government earlier this morning about a round of attacks, a round of drones and missiles fired at it.
And so this will likely cease in a matter of hours, but it is interesting to watch considering part of the decentralized nature of the IRGC has made it so difficult for the U.S. to eliminate the capabilities that they have.
mimi geerges
All right.
Mike Brest, defense reporter at Washington Examiner.
You can find his reporting at Washingtonexaminer.com.
Thanks so much for joining us today.
unidentified
Thank you for having me.
mimi geerges
And we are here early.
If you're surprised to see us, we are taking your calls on the latest developments in the Iran conflict.
There has been a two-week ceasefire announced.
This is, you can go ahead and start calling in now.
This is the truth social that President Trump put out yesterday.
This is, well, this morning, right at midnight, right after midnight this morning, a big day for world peace.
Iran wants it to happen.
They've had enough.
Likewise, so has everyone else.
The United States of America will be helping with traffic buildup in the Strait of Hormuz.
There will be lots of positive action.
Big money will be made.
Iran can start the reconstruction process.
We'll be loading up with supplies of all kinds and just, quote, hanging around in order to make sure that everything goes well.
I feel confident that it will.
Just like we are experiencing in the U.S., this could be the golden age of the Middle East.
Three exclamation marks.
So that is what the President put out.
And this is what we're getting on our social media and our texts.
North Hill Audio on Facebook says, so what is the aim today?
Is it regime change?
Control the oil.
Open the strait.
Leave NATO.
Avoid Jeffrey.
This is Doug, who says, art of the deal can be messy at times.
Words and giant threats are often required to gain leverage.
Iran blinked.
And Heidi says, his notorious backtracking technique, when the right does not support his decisions and others are calling for the 25th, he's clueless, as always, and it's currently and clearly being reflected when it comes to his lack of knowledge of the law, rules of war, and making threats.
Well, speaking of that, this is Senator Ed Markey.
He is a Democrat of Massachusetts.
He put this on his ex-account this video, calling for the president's removal from office.
Take a look.
edward markey
I'm sure you've seen Donald Trump's unhinged post from this morning.
He is completely unstable and dangerous.
Here's what needs to happen immediately.
The House must come back into session to bring up and pass articles of impeachment against Donald Trump.
Then, the Senate needs to remove him from office.
A war powers resolution is not enough.
Yes, we need to assert congressional authority and stop this illegal war in Iran, but Trump is clearly a war-hungry madman at odds with the American people.
Impeachment is the top priority.
No more war criminal in the White House.
I'm sure you.
mimi geerges
That was Senator Markey.
We're getting your reaction to that.
What do you think of that?
What do you think of the agreement that was reached yesterday?
Impeachment and War Powers 00:15:49
mimi geerges
Let's take a look at what Iran's proposed 10-point peace plan includes.
Now, this is the Wall Street Journal reporting, and President Trump said that it was, quote, a workable basis on which to negotiate.
So not necessarily what has been accepted by the U.S., but this is the negotiating starting point, and here it is.
Number one, the U.S. must fundamentally commit to guaranteeing non-aggression.
Two, continuation of Iran's control over the Strait of Hormuz.
Three, acceptance that Iran can enrich uranium for its nuclear program.
Four, removal of all primary sanctions on Iran.
Number five, removal of all secondary sanctions against foreign entities that do business with Iranian institutions.
End all UN Security Council resolutions targeting Iran.
End of all International Atomic Energy Agency resolutions on Iran's nuclear program.
Eight, compensation payment for Iran for war damage.
Number nine, withdrawal of U.S. combat forces from the region.
And number 10, ceasefire on all fronts, including conflict with Hezbollah in Lebanon.
And on that point number 10, Israel has said that they will not end their war with Hezbollah in Lebanon.
They are continuing to do that.
We will talk more about that with some guests that we've got later in the program.
This is the front page of the major papers.
And I'll show you that, and then we'll get to your calls.
Here is the New York Times.
Ceasefire called after tense day threatening Iran.
Trump veers from, quote, civilization will die to agreeing to a two-week pause.
By the way, on the New York Times, on the front page, there's an article, How Trump Took the U.S. to war with Iran.
This is, of course, President Trump and Prime Minister Netanyahu in the picture.
It's by Maggie Haberman and Jonathan Swan, if you'd like to see that.
Here's the front page of the Wall Street Journal.
Trump backs off threat to level Iran.
President says at 11th hour, he agreed to a two-week ceasefire after warning.
A whole civilization will die tonight.
And here is the Washington Times.
U.S.-Iran back away from the brink.
Pakistan brokers' two-week ceasefire pauses Trump's threats of ruin.
And USA Today, U.S. Iran engaged in meme warfare.
Foes use social media to shape perceptions.
And finally, the Washington Post, two-week delay on Iran assault, threat to wipe out whole civilization.
Trump claims progress in talks to reopen the strait.
And we'll go to your calls now.
Let's start with Sean, Milton, Florida, line for Democrats.
Good morning.
unidentified
Good morning.
Boy, this is ridiculous, isn't it?
I am kind of getting tired of the conflict villain speech that the president's using in order to put this world into a hell of a tailspin.
It's amazing domestically, internationally, our allies.
Now, the lives of 435 people have been affected directly, and we've lost 13 people all for the whims of this guy who just does not seem to have a coherent thought in his head.
mimi geerges
So, what do you think is going to happen, Sean?
Do you think this ceasefire will hold for two weeks?
unidentified
No, I don't think it's going to hold at all.
I have absolutely no faith in the fact that this guy is not going to wake up tomorrow morning and have another brain burp that's going to put us into a position where we have to defend ourselves again.
Because right now, we're on the back seat.
This guy is just lost.
mimi geerges
All right, Sean.
That was in Sean in Florida.
This is what the Prime Minister's office put on X.
It says this: Israel supports President Trump's decision to suspend strikes against Iran for two weeks, subject to Iran immediately opening the Strait and stopping all attacks on the U.S., Israel, and countries in the region.
And Mike Waltz is the ambassador to the U.N.
This is a portion of his remarks before President Trump's 8 p.m. Tuesday deadline.
So he spoke about the response of China and Russia vetoing the Council's resolution to reopen the Strait.
Here he is.
michael walz
Well, today, colleagues, certain countries stood in the way of that future, and the United States voted to protect that future.
Mr. President, it is not lost on us that as we speak, your people, our allies across the Gulf, and American service members in the region are under a barrage of Iranian missiles and drones.
They and you have shown great bravery.
It is sad and unfortunate that Russia and China have not.
We have long known that these countries are capable of paralyzing the Council through obstruction and manufactured confusion.
Today's veto marks a new low, and it shows just how frightening a safer, more secure, more united Middle East can be.
Colleagues, the rejection of this resolution will be explained today.
You will hear today a number of excuses.
You will hear that this was part of the U.S. campaign to ensure that the world is free of Iran's nuclear program.
I will note: today's result does not restrict the United States to continue to act in its own self-defense and in the collective defense of our allies and partners.
And President Trump will continue the actions necessary to defend our people and the free world.
The request from Bahrain and from the region was not unreasonable.
They engaged every country on this council and took their inputs and thoughts on board.
It was a simple resolution.
Iran must stop attacking the Gulf, stop threatening its neighbors, and reopen the Strait of Hormuz.
mimi geerges
And that was Ambassador Mike Waltz at the United Nations.
We're taking your calls this morning.
We're on the air early to get in as many calls as possible.
Republicans, call us on 202-748-8001.
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The lines are open.
Let's hear from Paul in Plymouth, Connecticut, Independent line.
Hi, Paul.
unidentified
Yes, I'm still above ground.
The enemies, the forces of evil in Terryville are not getting their way with me.
But let's talk about the wider conflict.
This time, it's much different.
The anti-war movement is alive and well.
They're drawing connections to the U.S. ally.
Without them and each other, and we're talking the war machine of the U.S. government and Netanyahu, they would be no place.
The coordinated effort is apparent.
Whatever one does, the other one knows about it.
The U.S. knows about the war crimes that Israel is committing, especially in Lebanon.
This is a wide conflict in addition to the straight.
Now, I have one question, simple question.
Was the straight open before the U.S. and Israel attacks on Iran?
I believe it was.
mimi geerges
Yes, it was.
unidentified
Well, that's an important fact that's getting pushed aside.
Are we in a post-fact world where nothing matters anymore?
Only the spin in the propaganda coming out of this deranged administration with Vance over in a right-wing country trying to stir the pot against the allies, the EU allies?
What is going on here?
So what I tune into your program.
mimi geerges
Well, thank you, Paul.
So what do you think is going to happen?
unidentified
There's going to be the Flint Flam.
There's going to be the back door, you know, assassinations, political assassinations of leaders in Iran and other countries.
Will this go rogue?
And will the CIA, we heard about the CIA involved in the rescue of the flyer, the pilot.
Yes.
One or two.
mimi geerges
The airmen.
unidentified
So what I hear, and this is why I'm always grasping for truth.
What I hear all over the place, even on local media here, is a spin.
So the spin is more important than the truth.
And I always hear, lead the decision maker.
We don't know all the facts.
Leave the decision makers.
Let them do their jobs.
However, what's happened in this political climate is that the Republicans in Washington have locked out the advising of the Democrat representatives.
Our representatives are there to do our bidding and make sure that things are on the straight and narrow.
Well, they're not on the straight and narrow.
mimi geerges
All right.
Well, Paul, let's hear from one of those lawmakers.
This is Senator Mark Kelly, a Democrat of Arizona.
He was on MS Now Reacting to the president's announcement of the two-week ceasefire.
jen psaki
I want to start by just getting your reaction to the truth social post late today from President Trump about a two-week ceasefire.
How did you read that, especially given some of what we've heard from the Iranians of what they say has been agreed to?
mark kelly
Well, I mean, we're still in this same spot I think we were in a couple weeks ago or even weeks before that.
We have a president that has no strategic plan, no goal he was trying to achieve, or at least a you know, moving the goalpost over and over again.
He's not a serious president, he doesn't think before he speaks.
What he said this morning was incredibly disturbing: that he was going to end a civilization that, by the way, has been around for thousands of years.
And in doing that, he was basically saying that he was going to commit unlawful acts, which I've been concerned about since November.
So I am certainly somewhat relieved for now that there are not going to be massive strikes on civilian infrastructure in violation of the law.
But we will have to see what happens next.
I mean, he is not a, in my view, not a serious person.
He doesn't listen to people around him.
He doesn't get great advice when you consider who he put around him.
And we're at a really challenging point here.
The Strait of Hormuz is still closed.
And I don't see how any of this has helped the American people.
mimi geerges
It's Democrat Senator Mark Kelly.
Here's Republican Senator Lindsey Graham on X.
He says, as I stated before, I prefer diplomacy if it leads to the right outcome regarding the Iranian terrorist regime.
I appreciate the hard work of all involved in trying to find a diplomatic solution.
At this early stage, I'm extremely cautious regarding what is fact versus fiction or misrepresentation.
That's why a congressional review process, like the one the Senate followed to test the Obama-Iranian deal, is a sound way forward.
Fair and challenging questions with a full opportunity to explain and a healthy dose of sunlight is generally the right formula to understand any matter.
Simply put, kick the tires.
Let's hear from Carol in Columbia, Maryland, Independent Line.
Carol, what do you think of the news on Iran?
unidentified
Well, good morning.
Oh, sorry, Carl.
I don't understand.
Carol.
Carl's a name.
Thank you very much.
Calling the Islamism a multi-century civilization is not correct.
It's a form of cognitive warfare to control the minds of the population.
I just don't see how that's called a civilization.
And secondly, recently I haven't heard death to America repeated time and time again from this so-called civilization.
When are we going to hear that again?
Is that overweight or not?
mimi geerges
Okay, so Carl, are you do you welcome the ceasefire?
Do you think that President Trump should have gone forward with his threats of destroying the country?
How did you react when you heard the news?
unidentified
I think Trump is saying that he's going to destroy.
Well, he didn't say he's going to destroy the country.
He said he's going to destroy the civilization.
So let's keep things like they were.
Well, I guess that was included too.
Both he said that.
So the break in the conflict It gives a chance for more agreement to come to some kind of a resolution.
But since the Islamic population has cut out all communications within its own country, how do they know what's going on?
mimi geerges
All right.
And this is Mahin in Maryland, Line for Democrats.
unidentified
Good morning.
Thank you very much.
I have a few comments to make, and please let me express them.
First of all, it was not Iran who removed the Shah in 1979.
It was not Iran who brought Khomeini to Iran to destroy the country.
And it was not Iranian who destroyed the present rulers in Iran.
They killed Khomeini and they destroyed the whole city.
That's not the way that decent leaders should operate.
Medical Scams and Regime Change 00:14:49
unidentified
I voted for Mr. Trump because a decent person like Kennedy was joining him.
I'm in medical sciences.
And in 2020, just before the COVID disaster was coming, I expressed that that was another scam as a medical scientist.
The vaccine.
We are destroying on behalf of Israel.
And I believe we have to listen to what Jacques Chirac says, that is Israel controlling America as if America is a county under the control of Israel.
mimi geerges
Do you mind if I ask if you are of Iranian heritage?
unidentified
Yes.
mimi geerges
Can you shine any light on what's going on inside of Iran?
Do you have friends or family still there that you're able to communicate with?
unidentified
I cannot communicate with many of them.
And I understand that they destroyed Pasteur Institute of Iran, which I once many years ago worked there as an advisor for research.
It's a huge country.
It's a huge institute and near the presidential complex.
They destroyed a medical system.
Then they destroyed recently I heard the Sharif University, which have the brightest researchers and people, many of them, who are in this country.
As I said, I voted for Trump with the hope to do something about the Democrat, registered Democrat.
I voted for Trump with the hope that he can do something about these disastrous maneuvers that has been happening for medical issues and with the help of Kennedy.
Kennedy is a different personality.
He knows what's going on.
mimi geerges
So, Mahina, what do you think?
How would you react to what Carl just said?
You know, Carl called us and said that Iran is not a civilization.
This is an Islamic country.
I don't want to misrepresent what he said, but he was like, this is not an old thousand of years civilization.
unidentified
He was a 5,000, more than 5,000 years civilization.
47 years of bringing a system doesn't wipe out 5,000 years of.
mimi geerges
So he also said they're no longer saying death to America, death to Israel.
Is that true?
What's the sentiment?
I don't know.
You know, you said communication is limited, so I know you might not know, but what's the sentiment among Iranians on the street now towards America?
unidentified
I think it's mixed because they were tired of this regime.
However, they never wanted a country to be destroyed just to take out one or two leadership.
And I have a lot more to say if you allow me.
As I said, the madmans, only the madmans in Washington and in Israel want a country to be destroyed to take out a couple of people who they put in charge.
Remember that.
We always have to go back to the basic Israel saying debt to Israel or saying debt to America, you said that to Iran.
Why you should destroy the country?
That is a major civilization that we are destroying.
We already did.
It takes years and decades for Iran to recover.
Please listen to the 60-minute tapes that Mike Wallace had interviewed with Shah of Iran.
And Shah said that the Jewish people are very, very strong in all aspects of American.
mimi geerges
So, Mahina, I've got to move on to...
I've got to move on to other callers, but I really appreciate your call.
The numbers are on the screen.
You can give us a call and join the conversation on the developments in the Iran conflict.
There was an agreement to a two-week ceasefire between among the U.S., Israel, and Iran.
We're also going to be bringing you a briefing from the Pentagon.
So you'll hear from Secretary Pete Hegseth and Chairman Dan Kaine.
We're going to bring that to you here at 8 a.m.
It is expected to start at 8 a.m.
We'll bring that to you as soon as it starts, and it will be in its entirety, so you can stay with us right here.
Johnny, Granite Falls, Washington, Independent Line.
Good morning.
unidentified
Good morning.
Thank you for taking my call.
I'm, of course, very happy that he didn't go ahead with his plans, you know, to bomb, do more bombing and all that.
But I think there's a very immediate problem here, and I think that Congress needs to get back in session immediately, not next week, not two weeks from now.
They need to get back to Washington and deal with Donald Trump.
He's obviously, I believe, unfit for office.
He's just unhinged, as people say.
And we need to have somebody who's in control of their faculties dealing with this.
I just would like to see somebody do something about this.
It's a very real problem.
mimi geerges
Here is Senator Chris Coons, Democrat.
He says, if reports are true, it seems that under this deal, Iran will still maintain control of the strait.
A worse situation than before Trump began this war of choice.
And Senator Andy Kim, New Jersey, said Trump may have backed down for now, but he has shown how unhinged he is by threatening the death of a, quote, whole civilization.
I'm heading back to D.C. to try and get answers for the American people.
Congress needs to return to the Capitol immediately and vote to end this war.
This is Congresswoman Yasmeen Ansari.
I do not appreciate anyone, Democrat or Republican, taking this moment to make taco jokes to say Trump chickened out.
The president was threatening genocide against 90 million Iranians.
I'm grateful there's a ceasefire and scores of innocent people didn't die tonight.
And this is Senator Tammy Baldwin.
Diplomacy has always been the answer, which is why the president shouldn't have gotten us into this war of choice.
It's been reckless, cost U.S. soldiers their lives, and is raising prices on families.
A ceasefire is a start, but Congress needs to do our jobs and end this war.
And this is, we mentioned Representative Yasmin Ansari.
Here she is from yesterday on MS Now.
unidentified
I just hope it doesn't have to take committing genocide against a country of 90 million people for Republicans to speak up.
If you look at non-elected Republicans, people like former Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene, Tucker Carlson, Alex Jones, Candace Owens, people I never in my wildest dreams thought that I would agree with on anything, are reasonable and are sounding the alarm at the appropriate levels given the gravity of this moment.
They are calling for the 25th Amendment.
I'm thinking to myself, why does Vice President JD Vance, who has presidential aspirations in 2028, who always campaigned on ending forever wars, why is he not trying to orchestrate the cabinet to invoke the 25th Amendment and remove Trump from office?
He is mentally deranged and threatening crimes of this magnitude are going to get Americans killed.
So that is my focus today.
I think every single person in this country needs to be calling the phones of Republican members of Congress and senators relentlessly today.
Like of all of the issues that have come up over the last year, all have been devastating, but we are talking about the potential for nuclear war here.
That is the language that Donald Trump is using, and we should not pretend that it's not.
laura barron-lopez
Yeah, and it's a big question whether or not voters are going to apply pressure here, but you're also calling for the impeachment of Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth.
This effort, like the 25th Amendment, is most likely not going to move forward because Republicans are in charge of Congress.
Democrats have also struggled to coalesce around a strategy at times of confronting the president and his administration.
So why do this?
Why put forward these articles of impeachment against Hegseth?
What message are you hoping to send by moving this forward?
unidentified
I'm introducing these articles of impeachment because I think that is what is warranted and what even comes close to being responsive to how horrific current events are right now.
Think it is, quite frankly, just an absolute abdication of responsibility to just be tweeting or putting out statements about Donald Trump being deranged and moving on.
This is unprecedented in our country's history.
mimi geerges
And on that topic, this is Axios reporting with the headline, House Democrat moves to impeach Hegseth over Iran war.
It says that Hegseth is emerging as Democrats' top target in the Trump cabinet following the ousters of Homeland Security Secretary Christy Noam and Attorney General Pam Bondi.
Polls have shown Hegseth is among the least popular members of the cabinet, with the mounting costs of the Iran conflict placing further strain on his public image.
That's Representative Yasmin Ansari, a Democrat of Arizona, said she will be introducing articles of impeachment against Hegseth next week, quote, for repeatedly violating his oath of office and his duty to the Constitution.
That's at Axios, if you would like to read the rest of that.
We're taking your calls this morning.
This is Stacey, Waldorf, Maryland, Republican.
Good morning.
unidentified
Good morning.
Thank you for taking my call.
I just want to say that nobody wants to see the United States involved in any type of war.
We don't want to lose our men and women.
But it's amazing to me that people think that Iran hasn't been an issue for 47 years.
I mean, let's be honest, October 7th is what really kicked the thing off.
They have funded terrorist groups who have repeatedly attacked U.S. citizens, well, U.S. military bases.
And we've lost men and women because of this regime.
And we should have handled Iran years and years ago.
Every administration has always said our biggest threat to the United States is Iran.
We literally financially backed Ukraine when it came to Russia because everybody was screaming Russia was a threat globally.
Russia hasn't attacked the U.S. since it was a Soviet Union, but Iran has repeatedly funded terrorist groups that have attacked our U.S. men and women.
So I'm just kind of like, I don't even understand it.
mimi geerges
So do you think what do you think is the best way to handle that threat, in your opinion?
Do you agree with how the president has operated this war?
unidentified
I absolutely do.
Now, don't get me wrong, like some of his tweets were just crazy to me.
Like, I mean, I can't even deny that.
But I feel like that we are in it now.
The bottom line is we're there.
So for us just to walk away and nothing, like no change at all, it's a really, really bad look.
We have to go in there and complete it.
We have to.
This regime is dangerous.
And like I said, it's not like, like I said, October 7th, they attacked, well, let me terrorist-funded groups backed by Iran attack U.S. military bases three times in 2025.
So it's not like we just came in there for no reason and just like, oh, here we go.
We're going to take over this.
They have repeatedly, for years, attacked us, whether it's the regime or it's these terrorist groups that they actually fund.
mimi geerges
So when we come down, Stacey, to negotiating then an end to the war, what would you be willing to accept from Iran's 10-point plan?
Because this is what we're going to be starting from.
I mean, they're going to maintain control of the strait.
They're going to have all sanctions lifted.
unidentified
Definitely don't agree with that because that gives them all the power again.
And I just don't agree with that at all.
We have to take the power out of their hands because now they feel, whether it's politically, you know, just for showboating, but they feel like they've won this whole battle.
Yes, we went over there and bombed the hell out of them, but they've won.
They're still in control.
They don't need to be in control.
So I'm not acting like I'm an expert, but I just don't feel like they need to be in control.
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mimi geerges
All right.
Let's hear from Chris.
High Point, North Carolina, Democrat.
You're on the air, Chris.
unidentified
Hey, how are you doing?
Good.
All right.
I got just one or two questions for you.
Before Iran was founded and the United States was falling there, was there any conflict between America and Iran before America was founded?
Yes.
mimi geerges
I don't think I can answer that.
But what's your larger point, Chris?
unidentified
My point is: why are we, you know, in Iran right now fighting this war?
mimi geerges
And why do you think that is?
unidentified
I mean, I'm asking, you guys are the experts.
mimi geerges
I'm not pretending to be an expert, Chris.
I'm taking calls.
So what do you think?
unidentified
I mean, you're on TV, you can't give us an answer to, you know, the question of this.
mimi geerges
Ray, Ithaca, New York, Republican.
Good morning, Ray.
unidentified
Good morning.
I'm amazed with the Democrats almost like treasonous activity going on when we're in a war and we've got a ceasefire.
And you have people calling for impeachments, calling for the 25th Amendment.
Do these folks not realize we've been in the problem with these folks for 47 years?
It just amazes me that they're working against the effort.
mimi geerges
So, Ray, your reaction then to because the people that are calling for the 25th Amendment are doing that in response to the president's post on a whole civilization will die, we will essentially destroy an entire country.
What was your reaction to that?
unidentified
I think the reason we got the ceasefire is because he spoke like that.
This is a group of people that only understand strength, and President Trump showed strength.
And again, we've been dealing with this for almost half a century now.
It just amazes me how the other side is going out of their way.
So, were you the president?
mimi geerges
Were you happy that a ceasefire was announced, or would you have rather the president followed through on his threats?
What did you think?
unidentified
No, I was very happy there was a ceasefire.
I don't want everyone, you know, the problem with the you don't want to have innocents killed and anything that you can work out in a peaceful way.
But I think we would be much quicker to get into a peaceful situation if the other side, if Iran, saw that the country was supporting this instead of calling for the impeachment or the 25th Amendment, assuming that President Trump is crazy, he's crazy like a fox.
He's being smart, he's being tough, and he's trying to protect both us and Israel so we never have another 9-11.
We never have another October 7th.
mimi geerges
All right.
And this is Representative Frank Malone, Republican, sorry, Democrat, who says, with the ceasefire, Trump will claim victory.
But it's not.
It also doesn't absolve Trump of the disgusting rhetoric he used earlier.
This is a temporary fix to a crisis of his making and a direct response to the overwhelming public backlash to his illegal war.
This is Ron in Michigan, line for Republicans.
You're on the air, Ron.
unidentified
I called in a while back, too, when Israel was having the same problem, and the United Nations was trying to get this straightened out.
And that is part of the U.N.'s job is to get this whole.
I'm glad they got a ceasefire, but I'm glad they're the last two callers.
They back up our Republican or President Trump.
He knows what he's doing.
The American people can't back up their own president.
Then they ought to be living over in Iran and seeing what these people are going through.
These people want freedom.
They want the same thing.
And I believe what Trump is doing.
They'll figure it out.
Everything is going to work out.
And if he has to bomb the ass bomb, because these people, this is a whole religious thing.
These people are not as civilized as some of these callers think they are.
They are out to get the United States and Israel because they've been saying it for 47 years.
China don't say it.
Russia don't say it.
North Korea don't.
Iran wants us destroyed.
And if these people don't.
mimi geerges
So, Ron, I've got a question for you, if you don't mind.
When you said the people want freedom, the Iraqi people also wanted freedom from Saddam Hussein.
Were you in favor of the U.S. going to war in Iraq in 2003?
unidentified
100%.
They got it better.
They got it a lot better.
mimi geerges
And you believe that the cost was worth it to the United States, both in blood and treasure?
unidentified
But the cost, you've got people that want freedom all over this world.
And we are probably one of the biggest, only the biggest country that is free, that can help all these people out in all these countries so they can be civilized.
And we don't need these nuclear weapons for one thing, because I doubt very much of Russia or China.
We feed China.
China hasn't been in war for 50 years.
They don't want no part of this any more than Russia.
We do.
Russia needs to get out of Ukraine for one thing.
They need to have a ceasefire.
They need to stop this.
They need to stop all these wars.
And I think Trump is the one that can handle this.
And I think China president and him are going to get along to where they're going to settle this hopefully by this month.
I think they can really get this all done by April if they both put their heads together.
China shouldn't be supporting Iran because they know they use that Hamas.
They use that Mediterranean.
They need to get the oil.
We only get 2% of our oil.
We don't even need to go through there.
We're helping out other countries.
People don't understand this.
And if we don't, and if we walk away from this and we let them have a nuclear weapon, Israel's going to be destroyed.
I think we can stop most of them.
But why do we have to go through this and have Washington, D.C., D.C., or the whole state of Texas can be eliminated with one missile?
mimi geerges
All right, Ron.
This is Chris in New York.
Line for Democrats.
You're on the air, Chris.
unidentified
Hey, how are you?
You know, I'm hearing your show, and I hear it seems like a lot of the sentiment and the remarks are echoing what I hear on television in the news.
It seems that people regurgitate and echo what they spew.
And it's like they, I hear a lot of these conversations about what our country needs to do in the world.
And I know even the Republicans had a, originally had a campaign based on campaigning for America first, and these were some of the trademarks that were used.
Obviously, Israel is involved in this war in Iran.
Republicans don't seem to ever mention this fact.
This is not some, This is not a comfortable topic, obviously, because of how far Israel has been entrenched in our government, entrenched in our media, and in our society.
And we have so many good Jewish people in our country that are obviously embroiled in the politics of the Israeli government and the byline between our government and what's happening in the world.
I have friends in Iran.
I have friends in Israel.
I have friends that were sitting in Abram tanks.
calling me FaceTime.
Ironically, I'm a unique individual, so I get calls from people who are in tanks.
I'm conversating with people while they're killing kids, and I'm like, what are you doing?
Oh, Chris, you don't understand.
Human shields.
I think we have to take a step back.
This opportunity with this ceasefire is just for us to take our differences and see what unifies us.
We all need oil.
Let's call it for what it is.
I have a question.
Why haven't Germans been the focus of the turnaround of what it took to take a nation from after World War II to opening its doors to the world the way it is today?
Why, as American people, Democrats and Republicans, we can't just realize that all of the gasoline in our country comes from where it comes from.
And if we work together, we might actually be able to get some kind of respect for one another.
I think this whole, I hear the Republicans were going to bomb them into the Stone Age.
This theory that Iranians are cave people or lesser than, these people have a trillion-dollar nuclear program, scientists from all over the world.
We have to stop dividing information.
We're not in a race with China with AI, okay?
This whole competition of what I'm saying is what I'm really trying to get at is the competition of nationality, nationalism needs to be removed.
Okay, because when you increase nationalism in our country, the way we're doing with Pete Hegseth, what happens is you're increasing nationalism abroad.
And that is basically the point.
God bless you.
mimi geerges
Got it, Chris.
And let's hear from Vice President JD Vance.
He was in a news conference in Budapest yesterday, and he made these remarks ahead of the 8 p.m. deadline.
Here he is.
jd vance
Fundamentally, what Iran is trying to do, because they've been defeated militarily, is they're trying to extract as much economic pain on the world as possible.
And the President of the United States is a man who recognizes leverage, that if the Iranians want to exact a certain amount of pain, the United States has the ability to exact much, much greater pain.
The President doesn't want to do that.
I don't want to do that.
That's why we're negotiating so aggressively.
But fundamentally, the ball is in the Iranians' court.
Now, I think the President has talked about this.
One thing I will say is that the Iranians are not, they were not the fastest negotiators before the war started, and they are certainly not the fastest negotiators now.
So we recognize there's some delay sometimes in transmitting messages from one person to another, but we feel confident that we can get a response, whether it's positive or negative.
We're going to get a response from the Iranians by 8 o'clock tonight.
I hope they make the right response because what we really want is we want a world where oil and gas is flowing freely, where people can afford to heat their homes and cool their homes, where people can afford to transport themselves to work.
That's not going to happen if the Iranians are engaged in acts of economic terrorism.
So they've got to know we've got tools in our toolkit that we so far haven't decided to use.
The President of the United States can decide to use them, and he will decide to use them if the Iranians don't change their course of conduct.
mimi geerges
It's the vice president in Budapest, Hungary, yesterday.
Let's talk to Henry in Arlington, Kentucky, Independent.
Go ahead.
unidentified
Good morning.
Thank you so much, C-SPAN and your whole crew.
I know you guys woke up early this morning to cover this.
It's a really important thing.
C-SPAN is my primary news source.
As a truck driver, I live in my truck and I can't read articles because at night I'm sleeping, right?
So I get to listen to you guys and hear what's going on in the world.
So thank you.
It seems to me that there's a lot of political theater going on and kind of like showboating.
And I kind of don't know what to trust.
I considered myself kind of a Republican kind of guy, but I kind of don't know which side to be on here.
I guess the point I was trying, I guess the reason I called this morning was when Trump says he's going to knock out, he's going to end the civilization, I think targeting roads and bridges and power plants.
Yes, this is civilian infrastructure, but this brings a country to a halt.
As you're driving to work this morning, count how many bridges you go across.
If all those bridges were gone, how would you get to work?
And I think he was saying, hey, I'm going to retaliate by knocking out your transportation network within your country if you knock out this transportation network for all these goods.
If you keep holding this straight or her moose hostage, you're not going to be able to travel within your country.
And the way he says it, yeah, he's like a little teenager.
I hear somebody say that.
He's not the most eloquent speaker.
I'll give him that.
But it seems like tactically, I don't know.
mimi geerges
And Henry, as a truck driver, how has it been as far as the price of gas for you?
Are you able to absorb that increase?
How long will you be able to continue as a truck driver and it not be?
I mean, how bad is it right now for you?
unidentified
I'm incredibly fortunate that I'm a company driver.
So I'm driving somebody else's truck, and it's a big company.
They have like over 200 trucks, and they've been in business for a long time.
They know how to run it.
My job is to operate this vehicle safely and make sure it's maintained.
The fuel.
Yeah, it's expensive.
I think that there's some serious gaps in our transportation network.
People forget about the American trucker.
And I think we could do this a lot more efficiently.
The whole trucking and moving of freight a lot more efficiently, but it seems like the truckers get kind of forgotten about.
People are constantly cutting us off in traffic, and every truck, it's like every trucker for himself out there on the road.
And because nobody's going to think about you, you've got to just think for yourself.
mimi geerges
Stay safe out there on the roads.
And this is what Heather sent us on Facebook.
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mimi geerges
She says, Israel has already broken the ceasefire by firing into Lebanon.
So we'll see how long it lasts, unfortunately.
The U.S. needs to put our foot down and make them follow the ceasefire or lose all funding.
Regarding that, the Associated Press says Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's office said it supports Trump's decision to suspend strikes against Iran for two weeks, but it doesn't include the war with Hezbollah in Lebanon.
So we expect Israeli attacks on Lebanon and Hezbollah to continue.
We are going to be taking you in about an hour to the Pentagon for their briefing on the Iran war.
You'll hear from Secretary Hegseth and General Dan Kaine.
We will bring that to you in its entirety here on C-SPAN when that gets underway in about an hour.
Later in the program, we'll discuss the latest events connected to the Iran conflict with the Quincy Institute's Adam Weinstein.
But first, American Enterprise Institute's Michael Rubin will join us to give us his take on these events coming up next.
We'll be right back.
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david rubenstein
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mimi geerges
Welcome back to Washington Journal.
We're joined by Michael Rubin.
He is Senior Fellow at the American Enterprise Institute talking about the latest actions in Iran.
Michael, welcome to the program.
unidentified
Thank you.
mimi geerges
What was your reaction when you heard about the two weeks ceasefire?
unidentified
Well, I have more questions than I have answers on this.
Certainly, a ceasefire would be welcome, but there seems to be a lot of confusion here.
While the U.S. press is talking about 10 points to the ceasefire, the Iranian press is actually adding points which we're not talking about.
For example, Mimi, last night the Islamic Republic of Iran Broadcasting said that the 10 points would also include enrichment.
One of my other concerns, and this harkens back to President Trump's unilateral ceasefire with the Houthis in Yemen, is that is this a separate deal or a more comprehensive ceasefire?
Because I don't see in the 10 points where Iran has to stop launching missiles at Israel.
And of course, last night after the deal was announced, Israel suffered another ballistic missile strike.
So many, many questions are out there.
mimi geerges
Now, in the 10 points listed by the Wall Street Journal, it does include this idea of continuing to enrich uranium, which you would think would be a huge non-starter for the United States.
So how should we understand these 10 points?
The 10 points include lifting of all sanctions.
It includes control over the strait of
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