C-SPAN’s Washington Journal (01/22/2026) dissects President Trump’s Davos speech, where he proposed a $1B U.S.-led Board of Peace—including Argentina’s president (who pledged $1B after receiving $40B in aid)—to oversee Gaza ceasefire efforts while scrapping February 1st tariffs on NATO allies. Callers debate Greenland’s strategic value against China/Russia, Trump’s "Golden Dome" infrastructure push, and NATO’s reliance on U.S. funding, with Democrats criticizing sovereignty violations and Republicans defending Arctic dominance. Trump’s rhetoric sparks comparisons to Netanyahu’s Gaza handling and institutional attacks, like California’s book bans (4,340 titles), while live coverage of Jack Smith’s testimony looms. The episode reveals deep divides over foreign policy, military trust, and democratic norms amid Trump’s provocative global gambits. [Automatically generated summary]
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Coming up on C-SPAN's Washington Journal, New Jersey Democratic Congressman Donald Norcross will talk about the role of ICE, the Trump administration's foreign policy goals, and other news of the day.
Then Washington Times reporter Jeff Mordock talks about President Trump's announcement of a proposed framework deal on Greenland.
Yesterday, President Trump spoke for about an hour and 10 minutes at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland.
He said he would not use force to seize Greenland, but called for immediate talks for the U.S. to purchase the island.
The president also warned that the U.S. would remember who stands in the way.
Following the speech, President Trump met with NATO's Secretary General and announced that there was a framework for an agreement.
As a result, he is dropping his threats of tariffs on European allies.
This morning, we're getting your reaction to the President's speech and subsequent announcements on Greenland.
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Welcome to today's two-hour Washington Journal.
The House is expected to gavel in at 9 a.m. and we'll take you there.
Let's start with President Trump's post on True Social.
He posted this yesterday at 2.27 p.m. and he said this.
Based upon a very productive meeting that I have had with the Secretary General of NATO, Mark Ruda, we have formed the framework of a future deal with respect to Greenland and, in fact, the entire Arctic region.
This solution, if consummated, will be a great one for the United States of America and all NATO nations.
Based upon this understanding, I will not be imposing the tariffs that were scheduled to go into effect on February 1st.
Additional discussions are being held concerning the Golden Dome as it pertains to Greenland.
Further information will be made available as discussions progress.
Vice President JD Vance, Secretary of State Marco Rubio, and Special Envoy Steve Witkoff and various others, as needed, will be responsible for the negotiations.
This is the New York Times with this headline.
Trump says he has a framework for a Greenland deal as NATO mulls U.S. sovereignty over bases.
It says that President Trump said Wednesday that he had reached the framework of a deal with NATO over Greenland's future hours after alliance officials separately discussed the possibility of the U.S. obtaining sovereignty over land from military bases.
Mr. Trump's announcement was among a series of moves on Wednesday that appeared to draw the United States back from the possibility of military and economic conflict with his allies over Greenland, which is an autonomous territory of Denmark.
It says that he withdrew the threat of additional tariffs from European allies that had resisted his insistence on owning Greenland and said he would not use force to assert American ownership.
And here is President Trump yesterday in Davos taking questions about this topic from reporters.
We all know that taco stands for Trump always chickens out.
This thing with Greenland, this deal has already been in existence for over 75 years now.
So there's not going to be no new deal.
He just did all this yesterday to try to save faith because he is embarrassed.
I'm glad that Europe, the Europeans, stood up against him.
And I'm also concerned about this thing with this board of peace with Vladimir Putin being on the board.
And Vladimir Putin has already paid his $1 billion.
So this was never about no national security.
So if you're going to bring Vladimir Putin in, and he's on your board, along with Victor Orban and all these other crazies, it's never about no national security.
America better wake up.
And also, one other quick thing.
I'm glad Jack Smith thing is coming on today.
Thank y'all, C-SPAN, for that.
And Republicans have also told me to stop calling Trump a pedophile.
So I will stop.
My wife told me to stop doing it too.
So instead of calling him a pedophile, I just call him a child toucher.
Let me ask you, since you're former military, can we achieve our national security interests without actually owning Greenland by having that base, by maybe having another base if we need it?
What are your thoughts on that?
unidentified
Absolutely.
But does it make sense to lease, defend leasing?
There's a lot of, the Democrats could work all around the fact that it's leased, and they will.
Democrats hate America.
You Democrats hate us.
But yes, it makes absolute sense to make it a part of the United States.
And this is what the Danish prime minister said in a statement.
He said this: NATO is fully aware of the Kingdom of Denmark's position.
We can negotiate about everything politically: security, investments, the economy, but we cannot negotiate about our sovereignty.
I have been informed that this has not been the case either.
And of course, only Denmark and Greenland themselves can make decisions on matters concerning Denmark and Greenland.
The Kingdom of Denmark continues to seek a constructive dialogue with allies on how we can strengthen security in the Arctic, including the United States' Golden Dome, provided that this takes place with respect for our territorial integrity.
That was reported in Politico.
Kevin Staten Island, New York, Republican.
Hi, Kevin.
unidentified
Hi, good morning.
Nice to have you.
Thank you to having me on.
A lot of people are anti-Trump that are calling in anyway.
But realistically, when you look at strategic pinpointing, Russia, at one point in time of the year, can walk right across the Bering Sea because it's so low.
But the idea is, Iceland and Greenland, all of these areas are strategic points in maintaining security of the United States.
I mean, if you look at Putin, Putin is former KGB.
He's like a rabid dog at times.
China is their ally.
I mean, they're both communist nations.
So realistically, the bridges that Obama and Biden had burned and sold out our country, Trump advance are trying to advance us back to superiority and protect our nation.
And if you look at what's going on abroad with the Islamic Republic Iran, which are basically their allies also, they're attacking places of worship now in New York.
So, I mean, we're dealing with a very serious critical point, and Trump is trying to do the best he can at what he has to work with.
But he has a lot of opposition because there's a lot of iniquities that the Democrats have committed, and they're trying to blow smoke.
Yeah, I don't even know where to start with this president.
He made a complete fool of himself yesterday at Davos.
He insulted the president of France, said that Carney, the PM of Canada, was alive, and Canada is alive only because of him.
Insulted Switzerland.
And then he says that he needs a piece of ice because it's strategic to the United States.
I mean, just think about that for a second to all of your viewers and listeners.
This is where we are at.
That the president of this country goes and makes a fool of himself in front of Davos and says that NATO owes him because NATO has done nothing for the United States.
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unidentified
Well, you know who owns U.S. debt to all you people out there that are saying that Trump is the best thing in the world?
The UK, Canada, China, Japan, they own our debt.
And if they wanted to, they could just sell those treasuries and destroy the economy of this country.
So all I will say, and I will finish with this, someone maybe two days ago said that the biggest problem in this country is that people, half of the people of this country, have less than a 12-year-old reading capacity.
That is the problem.
The stupidity of the people of this country to think that somehow the United States is the greatest thing in the world.
Well, guess what?
This president is making all of these countries go to China.
And this country is now literally just a third-rate country.
And it is going to collapse even further because of the stupidity of people like this president and the people that follow him.
It says, President Trump said in Davos on Wednesday that Canada should be, quote, grateful to the U.S. for the freebies it receives because of the two nations' relationship.
Trump's dig at Canada came a day after Prime Minister Mark Carney delivered his own warning at the World Economic Forum over the rupture of the world order.
Quote, Canada lives because of the United States.
Trump said Wednesday before taking a direct jab at Carney.
Quote, remember that, Mark, the next time you make your statements.
Jim in Kansas, Independent Line, you're on the air.
Yeah, what I'm calling out, and my point is that Trump would never invade Greenland because military generals wouldn't do it, wouldn't obey it.
Without Congress declaring war just on his whim, they would never do it.
Because some of these people have fought and died with us in other wars, and just because he's mad at them or he wants something, they would refuse it.
All right, Jim, let's talk to Sean in Milton, Florida.
Democrat, good morning, Sean.
unidentified
Good morning.
This is ridiculous.
I keep hearing all these guys that are claiming to be veterans and saying that they have the inside scoop on how this is going to go down.
We can still maintain our national security in working with these host nations as we have for the last 75 years.
There are status of forces agreements that are put in place so that we act a certain way in the interest of the country that we're going to, as well as the interest of our own strategic needs.
I spent 21 years in the Navy.
I was a cold warrior.
I studied the two countries that he's worried about, and he's got it wrong.
So, Sean, tell us about, so there's this issue of the ice melting around the area, giving it more access for ships, and that that would in turn give Russia and China more access to the Arctic.
Can you explain how that might change the dynamics, if at all, of the security situation?
unidentified
Security, no, economically, yes.
And that's the biggest thing that he's worried about.
If you really look at what he's been doing lately, his concentration on Greenland, his mention of the Panama Canal, Cuba, the investment that he made in Argentina, those are all strategic choke points that all of those nations have put an interest in.
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unidentified
Remember, he claimed that China took over the Panama Canal and built all those bases there.
Well, they built maintenance facilities for their ships that are transversing the Panama Canal.
And this is CNN reporting with this headline: Trump unveils Board of Peace ahead of Zelensky meeting in Davos.
We are expecting the President to meet with Zelensky before he heads back to Washington, and we're watching that.
We will, of course, bring you any comments or pictures of that as it happens.
But it says this: that U.S. President Donald Trump unveiled his Board of Peace in Davos, Switzerland with the signing ceremony attended by fewer than 20 countries.
Trump said he wants the board tasked with rebuilding Gaza and resolving global conflicts to work with the United Nations, even as he criticized the UN for failing to live up to its potential.
Continuing, Trump will meet Ukrainian President Zelensky, according to two sources.
U.S. Envoy Steve Witkoff said negotiations to end Russia's war were, quote, down to one issue, which a European official confirmed to CNN was related to territory.
And here is Gil in Jamestown, North Carolina.
Democrat, hi, Gil.
unidentified
Hi, good morning, and thanks for letting me share a few of my comments on this wonderful forum.
First, I'd like to say Ish bin ein Greenlander.
So I'm in full support of the residents of Greenland, and our president embarrassed himself and embarrassed our country by referring to Greenland as Iceland three times in Davos.
And for an administration that doesn't believe in climate change and global warming, you know, that's certainly happening in Greenland.
And so, yes, the shipping lanes are becoming more free.
His demeaning of our allies and NATO, Canada, Denmark, who's been an initial member of NATO and whose men and women served after we were attacked on 9-11, is just disturbing and quite demeaning.
And what I'd like to say just in conclusion is that I wish that we had a woman president like Angela Merkel, like Jacinda Ardenn, or like Claudia Scheinbaum in Mexico.
If we had a woman running this country, I think that we would have better results in terms of this narcissistic, manosphere, you know, ultra-uber saying that we want to have hegemony over all of the northern hemisphere.
We're running in the wrong direction, and I pray to God that things are going to change and change very soon.
We never asked for anything and we never got anything.
We probably won't get anything unless I decide to use excessive strength and force where we would be, frankly, unstoppable.
But I won't do that.
Okay, now everyone's saying, oh, good.
That's probably the biggest statement I made because people thought I would use force.
I don't have to use force.
I don't want to use force.
I won't use force.
All the United States is asking for is a place called Greenland where we already had it as a trustee, but respectfully returned it back to Denmark not long ago after we defeated the Germans, the Japanese, the Italians, and others in World War II.
We gave it back to them.
We were a powerful force then, but we are a much more powerful force now.
And here is James calling us from Texas Independent Line.
Good morning.
unidentified
Yes, ma'am.
I think Donald Trump and NATO are coming to an agreement here, and they're trying to do this thing the best way for everybody in the world, the free people of the world.
And I think Donald Trump and NATO, they've already got an outline agreement pretty well reached.
And PolitiFact has an article fact-checking the Trump speech from yesterday in Davos.
This is what they said.
So, President Trump said, quote, we gave Greenland back.
PolitiFact says that that is misleading.
After Germany invaded Denmark, the U.S. assumed responsibility for Greenland's defense and established a military presence on the island that remains today, albeit in diminished scope.
The U.S. never possessed the nation, so it could not have given it back.
Trump was more accurate when he said that during World War II, quote, we saved Greenland and successfully prevented our enemies from gaining a foothold in our hemisphere.
It continues.
In 2019, Denmark said that they would spend over $200 million to strengthen Greenland's defenses.
But as you know, they spent less than 1% of that amount.
This is accurate according to news reports.
2019, Denmark pledged to invest around $200 million on military spending in Greenland.
At the time, Trump had talked about wanting to buy the territory.
However, 2024, a Danish news outlet reported that Denmark had only spent about 1% of the money.
That's at PolitiFact if you want to see more on that.
Here is Steve in Indianapolis, Indiana, Republican.
Hi, Steve.
unidentified
Hi, thanks for having me on.
I'm sitting here watching, and I don't understand the Democrats.
All they want to do is block everything.
Why don't they just try to get together and make this country great?
My main point is the church shooting, I mean, the church shooting, the church incident the other day, the elephant in the room, it's hard for me to even walk in my house.
What if that was a synagogue?
What if it was a synagogue?
Why is it not important when it comes to a Christian church?
That's my main point.
What is going on here?
And here's my last point: this: Trump needs to be here in this country.
He needs to be here.
He needs to be a city to city to city, make positive statements, virtuous statements to bring us together.
That's what I meant.
Men see everybody.
They want everybody around them to be happy.
I know women do too, but there's a quadrum in this country with female leadership.
This is some information for you on that from the Wall Street Journal.
It says, President Trump said Wednesday that part of his desire to claim Greenland stems from his plan for a golden dome missile defense system, an array of sensors and interceptors that could defend North America and other U.S. territory from foreign attack.
Inspired by Israel's Iron Dome, officials envision the project as a cutting-edge system of space and ground technology stretching across the country.
The project is in very early stages and the administration has yet to release details over how it will operate or its design.
Trump said that Canada would also be protected by the proposed Golden Dome system.
And earlier this morning, President Trump spoke at the first Board of Peace meeting in Davos, Switzerland.
It's a U.S.-led organization meant to oversee the ceasefire between Israel and Hamas and other issues around the world.
This board has the chance to be one of the most consequential bodies ever created.
And it's my enormous honor to serve as its chairman.
I was very honored when they asked me to do it.
We had an idea to do it, and then they came.
They said, you be the chairman.
But I take it very seriously.
We have a great group of people and incredible young people that are leading it from within.
It's running beautifully, started already.
And every country, just about every country, wants to be a part of it.
There's tremendous potential with the United Nations.
And I think the combination of the Board of Peace with the kind of people we have here, coupled with the United Nations, can be something very, very unique for the world.
For the world, this isn't United States.
This is for the world.
As everyone can see today, the first steps toward a brighter day for the Middle East and a much safer future for the world are unfolding right before your very eyes.
Together, we are in a position to have an incredible chance.
I don't even call it a chance.
I think it's going to happen.
To end decades of suffering, stop generations of hatred and bloodshed, and forge a beautiful, everlasting, and glorious peace for that region and for the whole region of the world, because I'm calling the world a region.
The world is a region.
We're going to have peace in the world.
And boy, would that be a great legacy for all of us.
Everybody in this room is a star, or you wouldn't be here.
There's a reason that you're here.
And you're all stars.
You're the biggest people, the most important people in the world, most powerful people in the world.
And when you use that genius that you have, that very unusual, very inspired genius, when you use that for peace, the opposite of peace has no chance.
All right, buddy, and let's take a look at some member tweets on X. Here's Senator Jim Banks, who says this: President Trump is the greatest dealmaker that we've ever had in the White House.
He will lead a deal for Greenland that puts America, our hemisphere, and our interests first.
Congressman Robert Garcia, Trump's obsession with acquiring Greenland is shameful, and it is beneath the presidency and our country.
We must oppose these attacks on our allies and focus instead on improving the lives of Americans.
Senator Chris Kuhn says, to be clear, Greenland and Denmark have always been willing to work with us on Arctic security and economic development.
Trump could have gotten what we needed without antagonizing our NATO allies.
Senator Reverend Raphael Warnock says, don't Republicans in Congress get tired of this president walking us to the edge of economic disaster over and over again for no reason?
This time, he almost started a trade war with Europe because he wants Greenland.
Who knows what will be next?
When will it be enough?
And Representative Andy Ogle says, Denmark has failed in Greenland, and it's affecting American safety.
America first means having Greenland.
Here's Beverly in Bellwood, Illinois.
Democrat, good morning.
unidentified
I was supposed to comment on Greenland, but this man is, you know what he's good at?
Chaos.
Have it.
He has the whole country on edge.
I don't know why the Republicans can't see it.
They're fans.
When you're a fan of somebody, you can't rationalize with them.
Fonda said it best last night.
She said, there is no left, there is no right.
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unidentified
There's right and wrong.
And this man is wrong.
He has poor Minnesota on fire.
He caused chaos in our own country.
He's treating them like Netanyahu did Gaza.
In fact, I'm just, it's horrible where they're being treated in our own United States.
Why would Greenland want to be a part of us now?
I don't even want to be a part of us.
This man is, I don't want to use the word authoritarian because people would come at you and say, no, no, no, that's not true.
Because these people don't know history.
If you read history and Hitler, that's what he is right now.
Governor Newsom's scheduled Davos appearance abruptly canceled blames White House pressure.
It says that his office said that Wednesday that a scheduled appearance at the World Economic Forum was abruptly canceled at the last minute, accusing the White House of applying pressure to block the governor from taking the stage.
Newsom had been set to participate in a fireside chat hosted by Fortune magazine at USA House, the official U.S. venue at the forum.
His team says organizers informed them shortly before the event that the appearance was pulled due to a, quote, venue-level decision not to include an elected U.S. official in Wednesday's programming.
And he did speak, though, to Semaphore's Ben Smith, and he addressed that cancellation at the Fortune event.
After Trump's speech, they made sure that I didn't.
They made sure it was canceled.
And that's what's happening in the United States of America.
Freedom of expression, freedom of assembly, freedom of speech.
It's America in reverse.
They're censoring historical facts.
They're rewriting history.
They're censoring books, 4,340 books, libraries, and in schools banned in the United States of America.
You're watching institutions, any institution of independent thinking is under assault and attack by the Trump administration.
You're seeing what's playing out in the streets of American cities, what played out in California, the second largest city in the United States of America.
4,000 National Guard were federalized.
700 active duty Marines were not sent overseas.
They were sent to my largest city in the state of California.
Massed men.
Guy Greg Bavino, dressed up.
It's as if he literally went on eBay and purchased SS garb.
Greg Bervino, secret police, private army, masked men, people disappearing, quite literally, no due process.
Windows being smashed.
Seatbelts on, being, you know, literally just sort of cut off.
People dragged in the streets.
Kids separated from families, knocking on doors, racially profiling American citizens.
So is it surprising the Trump administration didn't like my commentary and wanted to make sure that I was not allowed to speak?
No.
It's consistent with this administration and their authoritarian tendencies.
But I think what's going on from my humble self, that Trump is leading a new world order to dismantle the United States because it does not fit into the future world.
Punchbowl News this morning mentioned that the Rules Committee, the House Rules Committee meeting today at 7.30 a.m.
This morning, there are eight days until the next shutdown deadline.
House Republican leaders will move today to get a rule out of the Rules Committee adopted on the floor and then pass a four-bill $1.2 trillion spending package covering the Pentagon, Transportation HUD, Labor HHS, and the Department of Homeland Security.
And we just got this on X from Jake Sherman of Punch Bowl News, who says that the House Republican leadership has a deal with the Midwestern holdouts who were demanding a year-round sale of E-15 in the funding bill, and that the House Republicans will set up a rural energy council to negotiate.
Joshua, Illinois, Democrat, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hi, good morning.
Thank you for the opportunity.
I just wanted to start off by asking Republicans how many times you have to hear the president say concepts of a plan.
And, you know, I've been calling MAGA Republicans a cult since January 6th, 2021, because they refuse to use their ears or their eyes and use evidence to show that Trump is not here to help the American people.
In his first administration, the only policy he passed is a text cut for the break.
In his second administration, the only policy he passed is another textbook, Trex Break for the Rich.
I mean, when he says concepts of a plan, this is an unprepared, almost senile man to have no idea what he's doing on the world stage.
And when you have other world leaders like the Irish leader or other Scandinavian countries, you know, speaking and calling Trump a fascist, this is not Trump derangement syndrome.
This is opinions from other people that have a different perspective.
And again, the MAGA Republicans refuse to watch this.
And if I can end on one thing, a different topic today, Jack Smith will be on Capitol Hill.
He'll be interviewed.
But I want to remind everyone, you know, of the criminal intent of the White House.
Everybody should know that the White House shut down their phones on January 6th to cover all criminal activity.
If you're a criminal, what's the first thing you do?
Turn off your phone or leave the phone behind because you have criminal intent.
This is proven by data.
I would suggest you read the book, The Breach, by Denver Riggleman.
It's NSA signal intelligence that was used to basically prove that all these Republicans had coordination and it's there.
You know, you don't need politics, it's just data.
Wanted your reaction to President Trump's framework for a deal on Greenland.
unidentified
Interesting question that, quite frankly, has been going on not only here in Congress, but literally around the world, is how can the leader of what is considered the greatest nation in the world with one of the greatest alliances called NATO decide that you're going to take by force one of your partners?
So the idea he has been batting around literally for years, but intensely in the last couple months.
And the idea that finally caught his attention was when his stock market took a crash because of their statements.
So the idea that he says he's not going to do it by force, listen, when his lips are moving, I don't think he's always telling us the truth.
It's good that he said that, bring the temperature down around the world.
But the idea that he has floated out there just broke an alliance's trust, which was put together by the blood of our grandfathers in World War II.
It's one of the most disappointing moments in our history.
Congressman, do you agree with the President that Greenland is vital for the security of the United States?
unidentified
Absolutely.
Just as Canada is, Mexico, all those surrounding us.
But let's be clear: the national defense strategy, which the Department of Defense puts out with each new administration, talks about the hotspots, the items that we need to pay attention to and worry about.
Had nothing on Greenland.
So the rhetoric that he is dispensing to the American people doesn't match what his Department of Defense is saying.
So we have been involved in Greenland for years.
We, at one time, had 17 military bases.
During his administration, along with others, they've cut that back that we only have one base there.
So if you really cared about the national defense strategy, the defense of our country, why would we cut back on all those bases?
Again, the rhetoric coming out of Donald Trump is just remarkable.
We had a caller this morning, Congressman, say that he didn't believe that even if President Trump had ordered an attack, a military attack on Greenland, that the generals and the admirals would obey that order, that they would refuse that order.
What are you hearing from military leaders about this situation in Greenland and NATO in general?
unidentified
Well, I sit on the NATO Parliamentary Assembly, and we are meeting in Belgium in two weeks.
And I can only imagine the conversations we're going to have.
We have, in many ways, been defending Trump to NATO for quite some time.
But the idea is that we'll always be there for you.
I was watching Trump last night say, I don't know if we can depend on NATO.
Well, we had an Article 5 which invokes the NATO to come to our defense when they attacked during 9-11.
They were there.
So the idea of not trusting our closest allies is not only wrong, but it's not good for America.
And the idea that somehow our defense wouldn't listen to the commander in chief is something that should scare us all.
Just the discussion alone.
We had a hearing with the headset back a few months ago.
Mike Turner asked him a very specific question and he asked, do we have plans to invade Greenland?
And he avoided the question.
Mike said, you might not have understood me.
I'm paraphrasing.
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unidentified
He says, do we have plans?
And he said, we have plans for all contingencies.
It was a stunning moment.
None of us expected that.
It's a NATO ally.
We are supposed to go for their defense.
And the idea of taking it by force is not who we are as a nation.
It's going to take decades to put our relationships back with our friends and allies, which makes us strong.
It is one of the most important weapons we have, or we had, because now everybody's wondering what's going to happen.
Switching to ICE, you have introduced legislation that would require immigration officers to wear body cameras.
Can you tell us what the current policy is right now on body cameras?
unidentified
For ICE, there is none.
So there is nothing for them to enforce.
Quite frankly, there's probably very few venues around this country who have not already incorporated the cameras.
Back in New Jersey, there was an issue going on with our state police years ago, and they were one of the first to wear body cameras.
It was a settlement for a, in a court order.
Initially, the policemen didn't want it.
Now you will talk to state troopers who won't go out without a camera.
It's about the truth.
The camera doesn't lie.
And it puts people at ease because they can see what happened.
There's transparency.
So this is actually to benefit ICE, because when they hide behind masks, when they don't identify themselves, the trust that police departments around the country have with the community is put at risk.
And we saw what happens when just a split second and somebody can get shot and killed.
And the idea that there were three officers in that immediate area, including the shooter, and we don't have that information from each of them.
And would state and local officials have access to those cameras as well in any subsequent investigation?
unidentified
So as we saw in that horrific shooting in Minnesota, they would absolutely, because here it is, a confrontation that somebody died.
And we need to have access to that, transparency.
The idea that Christy Noam would put out a statement immediately before finding out the facts is just nothing short of reckless.
And we see this time after time with ICE.
The organization needs to be abolished.
That seems strong, but it's fundamentally broken from the top down.
And unfortunately, because of what they have done instilling that confrontational attitude, it's broken.
I believe it needs to be done away with and built again with trust because we do have to enforce our laws, but we have to do it in a transparent way that people trust.
And Congressman Norcross, there is the funding bill for the Department of Homeland Security coming up for a vote.
How will you be voting on that?
unidentified
Let's make this absolutely clear.
No, I am not going to fund to give an axe to the executioner.
The idea that we aren't able to put in place some of the very fundamental, transparent issues and policies, there's no way I can fund that.
They already got billions of dollars, billions, 170 billion in the big ugly bill.
So you can see they're rushing to judgment, building up a force that is not always qualified or fully trained.
We have included some additional monies for training that they have to do de-escalation.
I unfortunately in my hometown of Camden City went through this almost a decade ago.
And the idea of rebuilding a force along with the community that's transparent, that we trust in, changed the dynamics of that city, went from one of the highest murder rates in the country to one of the lowest.
One of your colleagues, Democrat Representative Henry Queyar of Texas, said this about funding.
Quote, we wanted more oversight of DHS, but look, Democrats don't control the House.
We don't control the Senate or the White House, but we were able to add some oversight over homeland.
He is saying that voting against it and possibly causing a partial shutdown would not give Democrats what they're looking for as far as reform for ICE.
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Well, certainly, as I just mentioned, having some reform, minimal as it is, that is a step in the right direction.
I don't think anybody believes for a moment that there's going to be a shutdown.
Remember, they control the House.
They have the ability to pass this.
We don't need to sharpen the acts so they can go out and continue to commit these egregious offenses.
We know those who are here trying to hurt our nation, who've been convicted, there's not a problem, I think, with removing them in an appropriate way.
We've done the right thing along the border to make sure it's safe.
We need to secure our borders.
But the idea that just keep adding money without the guardrails, I think is a big mistake for our country, and I certainly won't vote for it.