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| Throughout the morning, we've been talking about the mayor's race in New York City. | ||
| That election today, Pat Kiernan of Spectrum News New York won. | ||
| He's the anchor there. | ||
| Joining us to talk about that race and possible outcomes. | ||
| Mr. Kiernan, good morning. | ||
| Thanks for giving us your time. | ||
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Pedro, good morning. | |
| Good to be with you. | ||
| I was listening to what Lorraine was saying there, and she was talking about how expensive everything is now. | ||
| And that has really become the dominant issue in this campaign, and I think in many of the campaigns across the country. | ||
| But the affordability issue was not substantially on the radar as the top issue in New York City four years ago when Eric Adams became mayor of New York City. | ||
| But the young Democratic candidate, Zorhan Mamdani, made that his focus from the beginning. | ||
| He had his unexpected rise through the New York primary. | ||
| And here we are now at Election Day with this Democratic candidate leading in the polls and really starting to set a roadmap for how Democrats across the country might set a path to get back into some positions where they've been squeezed out of the Republicans. | ||
| When it comes to those terms of economics on a broad spectrum, what has he promised and how does he hope to achieve that? | ||
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Well, he's made some very bold promises. | |
| There have been a lot of questions about whether he can deliver on those promises, but prior to the election and actually getting things done after the election are two different things, as you know, in politics. | ||
| The one controversial aspect that he put forward from the beginning was this idea of freezing the rent. | ||
| His rivals have said, well, wait a minute, there's only about a third of the housing stock in New York City that the rent stabilization laws apply to. | ||
| And even then, the mayor has only so much ability to control what the guidelines board that sets those rents does. | ||
| So the promise is to freeze the rent. | ||
| The reality is that you can't freeze all of the rents, but you can slow down the pace of rental increases that are really pinching people. | ||
| The other thing Momdani has said is that he would like at least the bus portion of the transit system in New York to be free, which sounds like a tall order. | ||
| The reality is since the pandemic, only about half of bus riders actually stop to pay as they're getting on the buses. | ||
| So it would in some ways make official something that some people have taken into their own hands, just using the buses as though they were free, even though in fact there's a $3 fare to ride the buses in New York City. | ||
| Mr. Kiernan, we've shown people poll results all morning long with Mr. Mamdani's significant lead. | ||
| Is it just a certain sector he's tapped into or is it widespread? | ||
| And if regardless of the case, why is that? | ||
| Why are people responding the way they are, do you think? | ||
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Well, it's quite widespread. | |
| Andrew Cuomo running as an independent candidate after he failed in the primary to beat Momdani very much has an appeal to some sector of Democratic voters. | ||
| But Momdani is the Democratic candidate. | ||
| And for the case of some of the voters, even if they don't agree with everything that he's doing, they are indicating that they will go with Momdani. | ||
| He is, as you said, the frontrunner in the polls. | ||
| And he has, in particular, been able to tap into young voters in a way that we haven't seen a candidate who has inspired young voters in this way. | ||
| Just an army of volunteers going door to door, new registrations of voters. | ||
| Just since the primary, in the space of about three months, 107,000 people who had not voted decided they are going to get in on this race. | ||
| We have a fairly substantial early voting program in New York City now, Pedro. | ||
| 730,000 people voted early. | ||
| That was about four times the early voting turnout from four years ago. | ||
| And if we look at the way things went in the primary, it implies that we could have 2 million voters in total, which would be in modern times in New York City, extraordinary turnout. | ||
| When it comes to support, we've seen Governor Hochul give support. | ||
| We've seen Senator Bernie Sanders give support. | ||
| New York's Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, but other Democratic leaders have not. | ||
| What's been the impact of that? | ||
| Clearly, he's got people supporting him, but what's the messaging there? | ||
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Well, there's been reluctance on the part of some moderate Democrats to jump on with Mamdani. | |
| Some of it is related to powerful lobbying interests. | ||
| The real estate industry, very powerful in New York City, is fearful of some of Mamdani's ideas. | ||
| And of course, there's the controversy over his position on Israel and on the Palestinian people. | ||
| Mamdani has made it clear that he is a supporter of the rights of the Palestinian people. | ||
| And that has, in some circles, been taken as against the Jewish New Yorkers who are a significant voting bloc here. | ||
| So it's been fraught for some Democrats to decide whether to get on board with Mamdani. | ||
| Some of them got on board late and some of them just didn't get on board at all. | ||
| What was your reaction to President Trump's tangential support of Andrew Cuomo? | ||
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We were struggling all morning. | |
| Do you call that an endorsement when the president doesn't explicitly say the words when the candidate, Andrew Cuomo, in reacting to the Trump social media post yesterday, said that wasn't an endorsement. | ||
| He was just saying he doesn't like the other guy. | ||
| I think strategically that is not insignificant for Cuomo because he has to do one of two things. | ||
| He has to either pull support away from Mamdani or he has to go to the other side and pull support away from the Republican candidate Curtis Liwa. | ||
| And to some extent, if the president is giving Republicans permission to vote for Cuomo instead of Sliwa, that might have an impact today for those who are considering one of those two options between Cuomo as an independent candidate and Curtis Liwa as the third ranked in the polls, Republican candidate. | ||
| When it comes to Curtis Lewa, I feel right to talk about him in a sense because he is part of this race. | ||
| How would you gauge his campaign, even if the results don't go in his favor? | ||
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It seemed to me to be a more comfortable campaign for him than four years ago. | |
| He was also running as the Republican candidate. | ||
| But he really found a spot here pushing back against Cuomo and his controversies as governor. | ||
| That's been the liability for Cuomo, is that he has that record. | ||
| And in the particular case of a nursing home issue and his own allegations of sexual harassment against him, there was plenty for the candidates to attack Andrew Cuomo on. | ||
| So Curtis Liwa found a space, the founder of the Guardian Angel Subway Patrol many years ago. | ||
| And I would have to bet that half of Curtis Liwa's press availabilities were in the subway system. | ||
| That was the issue he hammered again and again. | ||
| You know that Republicans have found a lot of traction in recent elections with being the party of law and order, with being the party that supports law enforcement. | ||
| And Slavery really leaned into that in this campaign in New York City. | ||
| Aside from the things we've talked about, what are you watching for today? | ||
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We're really watching to see what we see on voter turnout and who motivates their supporters to get out. | |
| We saw in the early voting of those 700,000 voters a little better turnout in the 25-year-old age range. | ||
| We had seen some early strength in the 50 to 60-year-old voter age range. | ||
| Those have been voters that narrowly lean toward Cuomo in those older groups. | ||
| That's going to be ultimately what we focus on here is who is getting their supporters out today. | ||
| Do they turn out in big numbers? | ||
| And in the case of those who believe that Zorhan Mamdani will take this election when the polls close at 9 o'clock Eastern time tonight, I think the focus will be on how many of the young voters actually follow through with their intention to get out and vote. | ||
| We definitely saw that in the primary, that not only did he excite the young voters, but he actually got them out to the poll. | ||
| So we'll watch that closely tonight. | ||
| Pat Kiernan is the anchor for Spectrum News New York One. | ||
| You can find their work at ny1.com. | ||
| Mr. Kiernan, thanks for your time and your analysis. | ||
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Good to be with you. | |
| Thank you. | ||
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We are still at our core a democracy. | |
| This is also a massive victory for democracy and for freedom. | ||
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