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| Billion dollars. | ||
| So if the Democrats were successful and repealed those provisions of the One Big Beautiful Bill, we would be expanding federal um health care spending on the unauthorized immigrants, um and non-citizens. | ||
| And those numbers that you cited are for over 10 years correct, Brian? | ||
| Correct, over 10 years. | ||
| And that's what we do for Washington is use the, the 10-year budget window. | ||
| All right, that's Brian Blaze. | ||
| He is uh, president of Paragon Health Institute. | ||
| You can find more on them at Paragoninstitute.org. | ||
| Thanks so much for joining us. | ||
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Thank you coming up soon here on C-span, any moment now we're going to bring you our live coverage for the Virginia governor's race, with a campaign rally for Abigail Spanberger, the Democratic candidate. | |
| She's expected to be joined by former President Obama. | ||
| And while we wait, we're going to show you an earlier discussion from our own Washington Journal. | ||
| Washington Journal. | ||
| We are in open forum looking forward to hearing your thoughts. | ||
| We'll take your uh call shortly, but first I wanted to let you know that right after this program, in about 25 minutes, we'll have ceasefire and uh. | ||
| This week we have Democratic congressman Scott Peters of California and Utah Republican senator John Curtis. | ||
| They discuss the government shutdown, the future of health care and ongoing foreign policy challenges. | ||
| We'll also hear from Democratic strategist Anna Greenberg and Republican strategist Brendan Buck, who unpacked some of the top stories of the week, including president Trump's recent overseas trip to Asia. | ||
| That is uh coming up later this morning, right at 10 o'clock a.m. | ||
| Eastern, right here on C-span. | ||
| So the calls now to Brent in uh. | ||
| Cedro Woolley, Washington Democrat. | ||
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Hi, thank you for taking my call. | |
| I was originally calling about the uh a few, but anyway, i'll just change that because your guest is gone. | ||
| I would like to just point this question towards basically all you Republicans. | ||
| You know we have seen weeks and months of of ice, abusing people, beating people up uh, you know just all sorts of cruelty going on. | ||
| Now my question for all you Republicans, you know that are always calling in and blaming blaming oh uh, you know, going all the way back to Obama or Biden or whatever you know? | ||
| Do you feel good about yourselves now you know? | ||
| How is your life better? | ||
| How is your life better watching all this cruelty being inflicted? | ||
| You know, is it? | ||
| Is it better because maybe your, your dark heart has gotten darker? | ||
| Or just what has gotten better with your lives? | ||
| Tell me that you know. | ||
| Just call in one thing. | ||
| Tell me one thing that has actually gotten better since we're beating up Mexicans and being cruel to human beings. | ||
| All right, Brent and uh. | ||
| On thursday, it was Illinois governor Jb Pritzker who had asked the Department OF Homeland Security to uh suspend or pause immigration operations in Chicago over the Halloween weekend, which is this weekend. | ||
| Here's a portion of what he said, and then the response from Secretary Christy Noam. | ||
| The Department of Homeland Security claims their highest priority is to protect children. | ||
| So today I have to ask them, please live up to those ideals. | ||
| I've sent a letter to Christy Noam and to the Department of Homeland Security leadership asking them to pause all of their federal agent operations for the entirety of the Halloween weekend. | ||
| I'm asking for basic human decency. | ||
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I think their response will be revealing. | |
| They've disrupted everything for more than two months already. | ||
| Give the children and the families of Illinois a break. | ||
| To Donald Trump and Christy Noam, show us this is about something other than you just causing mayhem on our streets and visiting cruelty upon our people. | ||
| We're absolutely not willing to put on pause any work that we will do to keep communities safe. | ||
| The fact that Governor Pritzker is asking for that is shameful, and I think unfortunate that he doesn't recognize how important the work is that we do to make sure we're bringing criminals to justice and getting them off our streets, especially when we're going to send all of our kiddos out on the streets and going to events and enjoying the holiday season. | ||
| We want to make sure that they're safe. | ||
| And if you see even up here, we have individuals that we've picked up off the streets with our ICE officers and CBP officers that have assault against a child, child pedophiles, rapes. | ||
| Those individuals don't deserve to be on our streets and we're certainly not going to let our kids be victimized by them. | ||
| Back to the calls now to Russell, Tempe, Arizona, Independent. | ||
| Hi, Russell. | ||
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Hey, good morning. | |
| I just wanted to say thank you for what you guys do. | ||
| You do a great job. | ||
| From what I've seen, just, and I don't study a ton of this, but social media really has us turning on each other quite a bit. | ||
| And even in the past week, there's probably been six to eight stories where it's complete fabrications on both sides. | ||
| And it'll have 10,000, 20,000 people cheering it on or hating each other and stuff like that. | ||
| And I wonder, you know, when do we get to that point where we realize we're being played? | ||
| And it is from both sides, because I could say, you know, there's problems with both sides of this aisle right now, and we're caught in the middle. | ||
| And, you know, with being told news is so fake, the last passion I think we have is journalists and teams of researchers. | ||
| And I think people need to get back to that and maybe get offline and try to find their way back to trusting news organizations again. | ||
| And that's why I'm so glad of what you guys do because you do represent both sides. | ||
| But I fear that we are being pushed against each other. | ||
| And most people, whether I disagree or agree with them online, we never talk about it in person. | ||
| And I think we need to create that dialogue in person. | ||
| And I just wonder how do we get back to that. | ||
| All right, Russell, and this is James, Canton, Ohio, Republican. | ||
| Good morning. | ||
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Good morning. | |
| How are you this morning? | ||
| Good. | ||
| I want to thank you for having Mr. Blaze on. | ||
| But I'm a disabled veteran. | ||
| I get 40% disability. | ||
| I was forced into retirement three years ago. | ||
| I'm only 66. | ||
| But now the government is sending me things from the VA. | ||
| They're trying to get some money back. | ||
| They're trying to send me an unemployment form. | ||
| What was your last three jobs? | ||
| Why did you leave? | ||
| Did you quit? | ||
| Were you fired? | ||
| I'm a disabled and service connected. | ||
| But yet, Trump is trying to get money back from me. | ||
| Now, I'm a Republican since 18. | ||
| Like I said, I'm 66. | ||
| And they're not doing nothing for me. | ||
| And my wife's on her fourth cancer. | ||
| They ain't helping me at all. | ||
| My rent went up 50 bucks. | ||
| I got a $47 increase. | ||
| And then they cut our food, our staff benefits from $126 to $23. | ||
| What is fair about that? | ||
| Why did your SNAP benefits go down, James? | ||
| Did anything change in your condition, in your situation? | ||
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No, ma'am. | |
| I got a $50 rent increase, but I got $47 on my Social Security from $1,483 to $1,550 because I got a $47 increase, and my rent went up $50. | ||
| They cut us by $100 on our SNAP because you make too much money. | ||
| And my wife hasn't worked in 14, 15 years. | ||
| She's on her fourth cancer. | ||
| But they said that's the government rules now. | ||
| And what are you going to do about food, James? | ||
| Do you have enough on your EBT to get through for the next few weeks? | ||
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No, I don't. | |
| They cut me to $23 a month. | ||
| How does two people supposed to survive? | ||
| She hasn't worked in almost 15 years. | ||
| I'm trying to live on $2,200 a month, $500 a month for this, $200 a month for gas, $200 a month for electric. | ||
| No phone. | ||
| I don't have it. | ||
| I don't have a free phone from the government. | ||
| I can't afford it. | ||
| I got a landline through the TV. | ||
| You just, you can't afford it. | ||
| And then you go ahead and ask for help. | ||
| Well, you make too much money. | ||
| All right, James. | ||
| Staying in Ohio to Babberton is Diane, Line for Democrats. | ||
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Good morning, Mimi, and thank you for C-SPAN. | |
| I'm just wondering the whole point of why the Democrats are holding out, and thankfully that they are, is because now they got to choose between food and medical care. | ||
| Medical care is so important. | ||
| Why doesn't anyone else listen? | ||
| And another thing is, when it came to Trump's administration, the only one I see doing anything to help people of low income is Dr. Oz, because he has found rich people who are like an example. | ||
| This one gentleman said that he had four nursing homes that were paid for. | ||
| He didn't own any. | ||
| That's a lot of fraud. | ||
| That's where the fraud is coming from. | ||
| And yes, last weekend, Sunday's paper, the Arbeagon Journal stated that out of 100 people, 96 of those women that are in prison have never done anything illegal that are migrants. | ||
| And yes, it's illegal. | ||
| It's a misdemeanor. | ||
| Just like somebody speeding over a certain amount of miles or somebody stealing from a grocery store. | ||
| The same thing. | ||
| They should not be condemned to a situation where they can't eat normal food. | ||
| It's frozen or it's poisonous. | ||
| And yet you're going to put these people down that have worked very hard to make the United States better. | ||
| Very deplorable. | ||
| All right, Diane, let's go to Silver Spring, Maryland, Line for Independence. | ||
| Al, good morning. | ||
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Hi. | |
| Thank you for taking my call. | ||
| I see a piece of news that is not talked about at all. | ||
| New Mexico recently announced that they're going to have child care, free child care for everyone. | ||
| Now, when the person running for mayor of New York said that, people thought it was communism. | ||
| Now, New Mexico is a great place to live. | ||
| So can you shine a little more light on what is happening in New Mexico? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| This is, I've got this Reuters article up. | ||
| Al, it says, this just came out. | ||
| It says, in U.S. First, New Mexico launches free child care for all. | ||
| It says that the program aims to improve education, child welfare in New Mexico. | ||
| Other Democratic-run areas eye similar steps. | ||
| And critics argue against free child care for wealthy families. | ||
| If you'd like more information, you can go to Reuters for that. | ||
| Here is Tommy in Kentucky, Democrat. | ||
| Hi, Tommy. | ||
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Yes, I'd like to make a couple of statements. | |
| One is, I would like to know: do they ever research these people that do all these decision-making and maybe who could be communists and who ain't. | ||
| Seems like we got a lot of communists in our country anymore. | ||
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And Trump is not capable, I don't think, of dealing with them, China and Russia, and all of them. | |
| I do not think he's capable. | ||
| And I'd also like to know how he tear down a White House to get to Bill of Ballroom. | ||
| And overnight, when it took me about six months to build a self-concentration on my property, I would like to know how he can do that. | ||
| And I'd also like to know how Maxwell, the woman, how is she getting that little light sentence after doing all she's done with these kids and having one kid to kill itself, commit suicide? | ||
| And why are they done? | ||
| Prepping her to have her ready for that ballroom to get them little kids in there for the petipaws? | ||
| All right, Tommy. | ||
| Let's go to Tom, Kent, Ohio, Republican line. | ||
| Go ahead, Tom. | ||
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Hi there. | |
| How are you doing this morning? | ||
| Good. | ||
| Good. | ||
| Well, I wanted to comment on the ACA briefly. | ||
| Your Chiron read ACA subsidies expiring, but actually, it's just the enhanced ACA subsidies expiring. | ||
| There are still subsidies there. | ||
| And these are the subsidies that the Democrats said would expire in 2025. | ||
| And now they're taking the old track that no new tax ever expires. | ||
| So I think it's important to make clear that it's the enhanced ACA subsidies that expire. | ||
| Yes, that's correct, Tom. | ||
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And as far as the, I mean, there's so much misinformation out there, but just briefly, when you said, well, the asylees and the refugees, you mean they too will not get health care. | |
| And that sounds very sympathetic. | ||
| But keep in mind, Biden let over 10 million people in, and all you had to do to be an asylum was say, oh, I'm scared for my life. | ||
| Meanwhile, they passed through Mexico where they should have asked for asylum there. | ||
| Right, that is correct. | ||
| They are, according to U.S. law, if you get into the country and you have a credible claim, so it does have to be credible. | ||
| You don't just have to say, my life is in danger. | ||
| You have to prove it in some way. | ||
| But yes, you would be considered an asylee and you would be given a court date to appear before a judge to have that claim adjudicated. | ||
| The problem is there's not enough judges and the system is so backed up that that could take years before you would actually stand in front of a judge and have that claim adjudicated. | ||
| But during that time, you would be considered documented, right? | ||
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In a practical sense. | |
| Yes, and that's where the disagreement is, Tom, is, you know, when one person says, well, those are illegals, technically, they're documented, right? | ||
| So they are not technically in this country illegally. | ||
| You see what I mean? | ||
| But the Republicans will say, no, they're illegals because we had this big flood of people coming in and they were all just kind of let in. | ||
| So, yeah, I think that's, it's very confusing. | ||
| What did you want to say, Tom? | ||
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Go ahead. | |
| Well, no, and I understand what you're saying, and it's very, you know, I mean, it's very politically correct. | ||
| But you can't, if they travel through a country where they could ask for asylum there, aren't they supposed to ask for asylum in that country, which was Mexico? | ||
| Yeah, I mean. | ||
| Yeah, I'm not familiar with what international law would say, but as far as U.S. law is if you do get into the country, into the United States, you have the right to ask for asylum. | ||
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Isn't it strange how we've gone to zero now? | |
| So there's nobody now asking for asylum. | ||
| And it was just, it was mere, well, I mean, this could go on forever. | ||
| I just politely disagree with you. | ||
| My opinion, and many of the people I know, and of course we all hang out with our own friends, we get confirmation bias, is they can all leave. | ||
| They can all leave, and then they can apply legally at a point of entry for re-entry into this country. | ||
| But I thank you for getting, and by the way, you are one of the most fair hosts on C-SPAN. | ||
| Thank you, Tom. | ||
| I think you're doing a great job, and I appreciate it, and I hope you have a great day. | ||
| Appreciate that. | ||
| David, Independence, Louisiana, Independent Line. | ||
| Go ahead, David. | ||
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Yes, ma'am. | |
| How many people does it take to beat up Trump? | ||
| Huh? | ||
| The world may never know. | ||
| But look here. | ||
| There's a nice song. | ||
| It's sympathetic to the Democrats. | ||
| It's on the highwaymen. | ||
| That's country people. | ||
| Christophson, Willie Nelson, Johnny Cass, William Jennings, CDs from 85. | ||
| There's a song called Deep Taste. | ||
| And it's called Plane Wreck and Los Gatos. | ||
| And it almost make you cry. | ||
| But I wish Trump would make baseball great again and get rid of the little computer graphics in that strike zone and all. | ||
| Because I love watching baseball all my life. | ||
| But it looks like some kind of pinball machine or something now. | ||
| And tonight, I wish Trump would make my clock great again. | ||
| Here's Casey in Lake Village, Indiana. | ||
| And Democrat, go ahead, Casey. | ||
| You're on the air. | ||
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Yes, I was just calling up about everybody talking about the immigrants coming to Chicago and Casey? | |
| Mentioned about how they got there by DeSantis and Governor Abbott sending millions of dollars to send the immigrants to them cities. | ||
| Now they're spending billions of dollars to get them back out. | ||
| And I hear nothing about that. | ||
| All right. | ||
| And here is Denny in Grubville, Missouri, Independent Line. | ||
| Denny, are you there? | ||
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I'm here. | |
| Yes, hi, go ahead. | ||
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Just wanted to comment about health care in America. | |
| All major countries in the world have universal health care and spend half what we do. | ||
| Why don't America have universal health care? | ||
| And DeAndre, Baltimore, Maryland, Republican line. | ||
| DeAndre, are you there? | ||
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Hear me? | |
| Yes, I can hear you. | ||
| Go ahead. | ||
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Good morning, Dr. Happy First of the Month. | |
| Good morning, America. | ||
| Good morning, C-SPAN. | ||
| It's always a pleasure to call in here. | ||
| So I just wanted to talk about real quick about the recent upsurge and algorithms online, where apparently Americans are, well, not all Americans, but certain sector of Americans are afraid of, I guess, this Korea law or some takeover of our country. | ||
| And I just want to make it clear that it's November and Donald Trump's peace plan still hasn't gone through. | ||
| Israel's still carrying out a barbaric genocide, and we can't get Israel to comply to any peaceful terms or negotiations. | ||
| But this Mom Donnie in New York, giving people a lot of, everybody's up in arms for some reason. | ||
| But I don't see any foresight of America being colonized or taken over by Shia law. | ||
| I mean, I think we've already been colonized, taken over by the Zionist interests, you know, and so DeAndre, tell me more about what you're seeing online. | ||
| You're seeing an uptick in, I guess, people saying that Sharia is going to take over the United States. | ||
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Correct. | |
| This is something that's just like, it's a conversation that's trendy now. | ||
| And I think it's because people are reacting to the fact that New York, the new possible mayor of New York, is going to be a Muslim. | ||
| And like New York happens to be, a lot of people look at New York as little Tel Aviv. | ||
| It's a lot of decisions are made out of their where the United Nations is held. | ||
| So if a Muslim mayor was to, I guess, be the mayor of New York, people would like kind of, you know, they would, it's like they're losing their, you know, their special state, you know, of control and policymaking. | ||
| All right. | ||
| And here's John in Asheville, North Carolina, Democrat. | ||
| Good morning, John. | ||
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Good morning. | |
| I listening to all this debate about the health care thing, and I agree with the other caller. | ||
| I'm just saying that we've made health care a big business here as opposed to what other industrialized nations are doing. | ||
| We're going to have to realize that we, despite all the talk, we all still like big government. | ||
| But in my lifetime, I'm 65. | ||
| I haven't seen small government aspirations of the American people, but national health insurance is probably with cost controls the only thing that's going to solve this. | ||
| If you're relying on capitalism and big business, that's what they do. | ||
| That's what they do. | ||
| But thank you very much. | ||
| And you are an excellent host. | ||
| I watch you as much as I can. | ||
| Thanks, John. | ||
| Mark in Tulaire, South Dakota, Independent Line. | ||
| You're on Open Forum. | ||
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Thanks for taking my call. | |
| I was just wondering why the Republicans are so against the subsidies for the ACA when Congress gets subsidized for their health care. | ||
| It seems like if Pork can't get a subsidy, Congress shouldn't be getting a subsidy. | ||
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And the person talking about universal health care, I was married to a Canadian citizen at one time and had dual citizenship. | |
| We were in Washington, D.C., didn't have any insurance, and she had a gallbladder attack. | ||
| We went to Canada. | ||
| She paid $258 for a monthly insurance program. | ||
| And they took out her gallbladder within five days, and there were no added expenses. | ||
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So is it time that the U.S. goes with the rest of the world and has a one-price subsidy and our insurance payment, and that's it? | |
| Here's Jimmy in Alabama, Republican. | ||
| Hi, Jimmy. | ||
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How are you doing, beautiful? | |
| I'm doing okay. | ||
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I tell you what, I've been sitting here listening to all this stuff, boy, I tell you what. | |
| To hear a Democrat come on, boy, I'll tell you what. | ||
| I better just hang this down the phone up because what I will say will bust a lot of bubbles. | ||
| But start the war. | ||
| Here is Terry, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, Democrat. | ||
| Hi, Terry. | ||
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Hi. | |
| Go right ahead, Terry in the air. | ||
| Yes, we can. | ||
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Okay, I was just, I'm a nurse, and I was wanting to talk about health care. | |
| Okay, so we're having all this debate over insurance and insurance payments and subsidies. | ||
| And what is coming to my mind is hello? | ||
| Yes, we are listening. | ||
| Go ahead. | ||
| Hello. | ||
| Keep going, Terry. | ||
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Is the main culprit is the health care system. | |
| You know, there's so much fraud going on. | ||
| You know, I've seen it. | ||
| I've been a nurse for 35 years. | ||
| And they need to start at the top. | ||
| You know, if they would get the health care system in check and stop letting them rape the insurance companies as they do, they can work from there. |