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Washington Journal Rep. Tim Burchett R-TN
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greta brawner
We are back this morning on the Washington Journal.
It's day 30 of the government shutdown.
We're an open forum for the remainder of today's program.
We're talking to members of Congress from both sides of the aisle this morning while we continue to take your phone calls.
Joining us is Congressman Tim Burchett, Republican of Tennessee.
Congressman, let's begin with day 30.
What are your expectations of where this is headed as we approach the longest shutdown in U.S. history, which was 35 days?
tim burchett
I have very low expectations, ma'am.
The House, as I did, voted to keep the government open.
unidentified
We voted for SNAP funding.
We voted for WIC, women with infant children, SNAP, of course, is food stamps.
tim burchett
And now, of course, it's in the Senate and the Senate is doing, and the Senate Democrats are doing what the Senate Democrats do.
You know, Senator Schumer said, you know, every day gets better for us.
I'm not really sure who it's getting better for.
It's sure as heck it is getting better for women with infant children or over 40 million people.
unidentified
I don't think people understand the depth of 40 million people.
The state of Tennessee just has 8 million people in it.
tim burchett
So we're talking about five times the volume, the numbers, over five times the volume of the state of Tennessee of people that could potentially go hungry.
I'm more worried about the children, and that is, you know, everybody wants to rail on the fraud and abuse in there, and there is plenty, I'm sure.
unidentified
But the children are the one that are going to suffer.
And it's clearly in the hands of the Democrats.
We've got 50 votes in the, you have to, we have 53 votes in the Senate, and you need 60 for a bill of this complexity because of Senate rules.
And so it's clearly in the lap of Chuck Schumer.
greta brawner
Well, the Democrats would respond, Congressman, to say, yeah, you need our votes.
So you should be negotiating with us.
And we are saying in order to vote for a continuing resolution to keep the government funding, you need to negotiate with us on health care.
tim burchett
Well, this bill is not the apparatus to do that.
In the past, the Democrats have voted 13 times, 13 times to vote for a claimed CR.
And the only difference now is Donald Trump's in the White House, ma'am.
This has nothing to do with healthcare.
unidentified
It has completely to do with control.
tim burchett
Chuck Schumer hears footsteps in the background, and those footsteps are Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.
He knows he's got to appeal to that far-left base, which is taking over New York, which we will, which they will probably elect a communist anti-Semitic man for, in my opinion, as the mayor of New York.
And he sees that as his base, and he doesn't have that base.
Chuck Schumer is a liberal, but he's not a communist or a Marxist at that.
And so he sees that base and he sees his power slipping through his fingers and he knows that and he's got to appease that group and he's doing a very poor job of it.
greta brawner
On food stamps, this Saturday, funding will run out for that program.
42 million Americans impacted.
According to the Knoxville News Sentinel, over 55,000 people in your district rely on snap food benefits.
Should the president fund these benefits?
Find a way to do it out of the White House rather than a piece of legislation to pass this.
unidentified
Well, there is legislation.
I always think legislatively is the best process.
tim burchett
As you know, the Democrats fought the president when he found outside funding to fund our military, which is incredibly important.
And they fought him on that.
So I don't know what's different, ma'am.
unidentified
It's the same thing.
tim burchett
All the Democrats have to do is come to the table and vote to open the government, just as I did, just as they've done 13 times in the past.
Now if you include the House and the Senate votes, they voted 13 times now to shut the government down.
What's different now?
Donald Trump's in the White House and Chuck Schumer sees his power slipping through his fingers.
greta brawner
The Senate Democratic leader, Chuck Schumer, yesterday did say that if the Republican leader in the Senate, John Thune, put on the floor a bill by Senator Josh Hawley, a Republican, that would fund SNAP benefits.
He said himself and other Democrats would vote for it.
So should that vote take place and should the Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson, bring you all back to vote on that piece of legislation?
tim burchett
Well, that's totally up to the speaker, ma'am, but the bill's already there.
All they have to do is vote to open the government.
Even negotiating health care, President Trump said, if you open the government, I'll negotiate with you.
That's already on the table.
The only thing different, again, Donald Trump's in the White House and Chuck Schumer is losing control.
And the Democrats don't have the, you know, in the past, ma'am, ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, the cluckheads over at the View, they would all just regurgitate whatever Schumer said.
Now you have folks on the internet, these podcasters, the Benny Show, you just name it, on down the line.
They know what's going on.
They've read page 57 of Chuck Schumer's bill that provides health care for illegals.
The game is up and America knows it.
And the major media knows it as well.
And the Democrats are having diminishing returns.
Everywhere I go in the state of Tennessee, people keep saying the same thing.
Stay the course.
unidentified
Stay the course.
tim burchett
All the Democrats have to do is vote yes.
I voted yes to open the government.
I voted to fund it.
Every Democrat in the House except for one voted to take SNAP benefits and to take WI benefits away.
unidentified
Every single one of them.
tim burchett
And they can't run from that.
The bill is already passed to negotiate, ma'am.
unidentified
Those days are gone.
They need to come back to the table and vote yes in the Senate.
They need to get some guts.
tim burchett
They need to get out from behind Chuck Schumer's skirt and vote to open the government.
unidentified
That's the only thing that's going to happen.
greta brawner
Congressman, before we let you go, want to talk about the Epstein files.
You signed a discharge petition to force a vote on releasing the files.
tim burchett
Ma'am, I'm having trouble hearing you.
unidentified
Can you speak up, please?
greta brawner
Yes.
Last question to you, Congressman, is about the Epstein files.
What is your expectation when the House does come back on a vote to release the files?
tim burchett
I predict we'll vote to open it.
That's what we'll do.
We'll pass that bill and we'll open the files.
I think the one thing we have to be careful about is when I asked in a closed door meeting of one of the ladies, she said she wanted to read the files, see what was in the files.
unidentified
So she knew what happened to her.
tim burchett
She had blacked out during the whole thing.
And so I said, so you want the files open?
And she said, no, I do not.
I don't want them open to the public.
unidentified
I don't want to see what people see what they did to me.
tim burchett
So there's several ladies there, and there's innocent people that probably traveled on that dirtbag Epstein's plane.
unidentified
Look, I don't care.
tim burchett
I'd send them all to hell if it's my choice.
unidentified
I passed some of the toughest laws in Tennessee dealing that pass the death penalty.
tim burchett
It was ruled unconstitutional at the time, and now it's been ruled constitutional.
unidentified
So I have no love for those people, but we have to protect the innocent.
tim burchett
And I think that we will if we follow the proper procedure.
But I'll vote to open the files, ma'am.
greta brawner
All right.
Congressman Tim Burchett, thank you very much for your time.
unidentified
Thank you, ma'am.
greta brawner
And at that point, we're going to go back up to Capitol Hill.
Congressman Paul Tonko, Democrat of New York, is joining us, member of the budget committee, joining us on day 30 of the government shutdown.
Congressman, is there an end in sight?
unidentified
Well, good morning, Greta, and it's good to join you.
I think there will be an end in sight.
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