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[00:01:01] We are back this morning on the Washington Journal. [00:01:03] It's day 30 of the government shutdown. [00:01:05] We're an open forum for the remainder of today's program. [00:01:08] We're talking to members of Congress from both sides of the aisle this morning while we continue to take your phone calls. [00:01:15] Joining us is Congressman Tim Burchett, Republican of Tennessee. [00:01:19] Congressman, let's begin with day 30. [00:01:24] What are your expectations of where this is headed as we approach the longest shutdown in U.S. history, which was 35 days? [00:01:34] I have very low expectations, ma'am. [00:01:37] The House, as I did, voted to keep the government open. [00:01:40] We voted for SNAP funding. [00:01:42] We voted for WIC, women with infant children, SNAP, of course, is food stamps. [00:01:47] And now, of course, it's in the Senate and the Senate is doing, and the Senate Democrats are doing what the Senate Democrats do. [00:01:54] You know, Senator Schumer said, you know, every day gets better for us. [00:01:58] I'm not really sure who it's getting better for. [00:02:01] It's sure as heck it is getting better for women with infant children or over 40 million people. [00:02:07] I don't think people understand the depth of 40 million people. [00:02:12] The state of Tennessee just has 8 million people in it. [00:02:15] So we're talking about five times the volume, the numbers, over five times the volume of the state of Tennessee of people that could potentially go hungry. [00:02:26] I'm more worried about the children, and that is, you know, everybody wants to rail on the fraud and abuse in there, and there is plenty, I'm sure. [00:02:35] But the children are the one that are going to suffer. [00:02:38] And it's clearly in the hands of the Democrats. [00:02:40] We've got 50 votes in the, you have to, we have 53 votes in the Senate, and you need 60 for a bill of this complexity because of Senate rules. [00:02:53] And so it's clearly in the lap of Chuck Schumer. [00:02:56] Well, the Democrats would respond, Congressman, to say, yeah, you need our votes. [00:02:59] So you should be negotiating with us. [00:03:02] And we are saying in order to vote for a continuing resolution to keep the government funding, you need to negotiate with us on health care. [00:03:13] Well, this bill is not the apparatus to do that. [00:03:16] In the past, the Democrats have voted 13 times, 13 times to vote for a claimed CR. [00:03:22] And the only difference now is Donald Trump's in the White House, ma'am. [00:03:25] This has nothing to do with healthcare. [00:03:27] It has completely to do with control. [00:03:29] Chuck Schumer hears footsteps in the background, and those footsteps are Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. [00:03:34] He knows he's got to appeal to that far-left base, which is taking over New York, which we will, which they will probably elect a communist anti-Semitic man for, in my opinion, as the mayor of New York. [00:03:48] And he sees that as his base, and he doesn't have that base. [00:03:52] Chuck Schumer is a liberal, but he's not a communist or a Marxist at that. [00:03:58] And so he sees that base and he sees his power slipping through his fingers and he knows that and he's got to appease that group and he's doing a very poor job of it. [00:04:07] On food stamps, this Saturday, funding will run out for that program. [00:04:11] 42 million Americans impacted. [00:04:14] According to the Knoxville News Sentinel, over 55,000 people in your district rely on snap food benefits. [00:04:22] Should the president fund these benefits? [00:04:26] Find a way to do it out of the White House rather than a piece of legislation to pass this. [00:04:33] Well, there is legislation. [00:04:35] I always think legislatively is the best process. [00:04:37] As you know, the Democrats fought the president when he found outside funding to fund our military, which is incredibly important. [00:04:44] And they fought him on that. [00:04:46] So I don't know what's different, ma'am. [00:04:48] It's the same thing. [00:04:49] All the Democrats have to do is come to the table and vote to open the government, just as I did, just as they've done 13 times in the past. [00:04:57] Now if you include the House and the Senate votes, they voted 13 times now to shut the government down. [00:05:03] What's different now? [00:05:04] Donald Trump's in the White House and Chuck Schumer sees his power slipping through his fingers. [00:05:10] The Senate Democratic leader, Chuck Schumer, yesterday did say that if the Republican leader in the Senate, John Thune, put on the floor a bill by Senator Josh Hawley, a Republican, that would fund SNAP benefits. [00:05:25] He said himself and other Democrats would vote for it. [00:05:29] So should that vote take place and should the Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson, bring you all back to vote on that piece of legislation? [00:05:37] Well, that's totally up to the speaker, ma'am, but the bill's already there. [00:05:40] All they have to do is vote to open the government. [00:05:42] Even negotiating health care, President Trump said, if you open the government, I'll negotiate with you. [00:05:49] That's already on the table. [00:05:50] The only thing different, again, Donald Trump's in the White House and Chuck Schumer is losing control. [00:05:56] And the Democrats don't have the, you know, in the past, ma'am, ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, the cluckheads over at the View, they would all just regurgitate whatever Schumer said. [00:06:08] Now you have folks on the internet, these podcasters, the Benny Show, you just name it, on down the line. [00:06:15] They know what's going on. [00:06:17] They've read page 57 of Chuck Schumer's bill that provides health care for illegals. [00:06:22] The game is up and America knows it. [00:06:25] And the major media knows it as well. [00:06:28] And the Democrats are having diminishing returns. [00:06:31] Everywhere I go in the state of Tennessee, people keep saying the same thing. [00:06:35] Stay the course. [00:06:36] Stay the course. [00:06:37] All the Democrats have to do is vote yes. [00:06:39] I voted yes to open the government. [00:06:41] I voted to fund it. [00:06:42] Every Democrat in the House except for one voted to take SNAP benefits and to take WI benefits away. [00:06:50] Every single one of them. [00:06:52] And they can't run from that. [00:06:53] The bill is already passed to negotiate, ma'am. [00:06:56] Those days are gone. [00:06:57] They need to come back to the table and vote yes in the Senate. [00:07:01] They need to get some guts. [00:07:02] They need to get out from behind Chuck Schumer's skirt and vote to open the government. [00:07:06] That's the only thing that's going to happen. [00:07:07] Congressman, before we let you go, want to talk about the Epstein files. [00:07:11] You signed a discharge petition to force a vote on releasing the files. [00:07:15] Ma'am, I'm having trouble hearing you. [00:07:17] Can you speak up, please? [00:07:18] Yes. [00:07:19] Last question to you, Congressman, is about the Epstein files. [00:07:22] What is your expectation when the House does come back on a vote to release the files? [00:07:30] I predict we'll vote to open it. [00:07:32] That's what we'll do. [00:07:33] We'll pass that bill and we'll open the files. [00:07:37] I think the one thing we have to be careful about is when I asked in a closed door meeting of one of the ladies, she said she wanted to read the files, see what was in the files. [00:07:47] So she knew what happened to her. [00:07:48] She had blacked out during the whole thing. [00:07:51] And so I said, so you want the files open? [00:07:54] And she said, no, I do not. [00:07:55] I don't want them open to the public. [00:07:57] I don't want to see what people see what they did to me. [00:07:59] So there's several ladies there, and there's innocent people that probably traveled on that dirtbag Epstein's plane. [00:08:05] Look, I don't care. [00:08:06] I'd send them all to hell if it's my choice. [00:08:08] I passed some of the toughest laws in Tennessee dealing that pass the death penalty. [00:08:12] It was ruled unconstitutional at the time, and now it's been ruled constitutional. [00:08:16] So I have no love for those people, but we have to protect the innocent. [00:08:21] And I think that we will if we follow the proper procedure. [00:08:26] But I'll vote to open the files, ma'am. [00:08:28] All right. [00:08:29] Congressman Tim Burchett, thank you very much for your time. [00:08:32] Thank you, ma'am. [00:08:34] And at that point, we're going to go back up to Capitol Hill. [00:08:37] Congressman Paul Tonko, Democrat of New York, is joining us, member of the budget committee, joining us on day 30 of the government shutdown. [00:08:45] Congressman, is there an end in sight? [00:08:48] Well, good morning, Greta, and it's good to join you. [00:08:51] I think there will be an end in sight.