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Making sure that you could express yourself and I could express myself on this open line without fear of retribution. | |
| All right. | ||
| And that is Maurice Mitchell, National Director of the Working Families Party. | ||
| You can find them at workingfamilies.org. | ||
| Thanks so much for joining us. | ||
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It was good to be with you. | |
| Welcome back to Washington Journal. | ||
| We're joined now by Cheryl Chumley, online opinion editor for the Washington Times. | ||
| She also hosts a podcast called Bold and Blunt. | ||
| Cheryl, welcome to the program. | ||
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Good morning. | |
| Thank you for having me. | ||
| Well, as you know, today is the No Kings rallies across the country and wondering what you think of that event. | ||
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Well, on one hand, you could say it's great to see American citizens exercising their First Amendment rights. | |
| I'm all for that. | ||
| I love to see people getting involved in culture, in politics, and speaking out, speaking on their minds. | ||
| But on the other hand, if you look at who is endorsing all these rallies, it's the far left, right? | ||
| It's the Communist Party, it's the Socialist Party, it's the Workers' Party, all under the same umbrella of communism and Marxism. | ||
| And we'll just see how peaceful they are by day's end. | ||
| And when you say that they're all organized by communists and socialists and Marxists, can you give an example of what you mean by those organizations being communists or Marxists? | ||
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Well, that's their title, the Communist Party of America and the Democratic Socialists of America. | |
| And if you look at the organizers, they proclaim themselves as the name. | ||
| So, you know, it's not me just taking a guess that these are far leftists in America coming together to organize these protests. | ||
| It's that they have organized them. | ||
| And earlier this week, we had one of the organizing groups on the show. | ||
| This is the move on. | ||
| This is Joel Payne, and again, one of the participating groups in the No Kings rally. | ||
| I'm going to play a short clip and then have you respond to it. | ||
| Okay, Cheryl? | ||
| I think the theme to the No Kings Day of Action, just like it was in June, was for people to affirm with one voice in unison in America, we have no kings, not now, not ever. | ||
| And the impetus for it is the Trump administration overreach and abuse of power that millions of Americans are seeing. | ||
| A lot of our organizations that are involved are really feeling this through feedback from our members. | ||
| And those members want to create community in their communities. | ||
| They want to know that other people are seeing the same thing that they're seeing and also still believe in the America that they believe in. | ||
| Cheryl. | ||
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So my response to it first and foremost is, you know, that's speaking the obvious. | |
| We don't have kings in America. | ||
| So to call it no kings, that's it's just speaking the obvious. | ||
| So why are they calling it that? | ||
| Because they're trying to make it seem as if this administration, this president specifically, is behaving like a king. | ||
| And if you look at what the Donald Trump administration is doing, they are trying to instill law and order in our communities. | ||
| They are trying to bring peace and calm out of chaos that has been generated by Democrat controls, whether it's the previous administration or whether it's the Democrat-controlled communities. | ||
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This administration is saying we're done with the lawlessness. | |
| We're taking decided action to put a stop to it and bring about safety and security in communities. | ||
| And that's what the far left is rebelling against. | ||
| And Cheryl, when you mentioned lawlessness, so I just want to bring up the commutation of George Santos' sentence today. | ||
| He was released from prison at about 11 p.m. last night by President Trump. | ||
| What were your thoughts on that? | ||
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Well, my thoughts were that if I were a Democrat, I'd be cheering this because he's the openly gay former congressional member for the Republican Party. | |
| So the left would seem to embrace that type of ideal. | ||
| And second author. | ||
| Sorry, the ideal of a Republican gay individual serving in politics. | ||
| That's something that the Democrat Party should have embraced because that's something that they advocate for, the open service of LGBTQ members in Congress in politics. | ||
| But he wasn't convicted of being LGBTQ. | ||
| He was convicted of fraud. | ||
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And I'm not sure if I'm going to respond. | |
| I'm giving you my response. | ||
| So my first response was a quip in my own mind that, oh, Democrats ought to have embraced this guy in the first place because he was openly gay. | ||
| My second response goes to the actual commuting of his sentence. | ||
| And that's something that Jiz broke. | ||
| I didn't look into all the details of why his sentence was commuted, but I do know that he was convicted of seven years and given a sentence of seven years for lying, I believe it was, and for fraud. | ||
| And the terms of his sentencing was what Republicans were concerned about, that he was put in isolation for very long periods of time, which seemed above and beyond what anyone else should be treated to in prison. | ||
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So that's my response. | |
| I want to ask you, Cheryl, since you are an Army vet, about your thoughts on Secretary of Defense Hagseth's policies regarding women in combat and their physical fitness requirements. | ||
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Well, it's not just women, it's men too. | |
| Same physical fitness requirements across the board. | ||
| And for 20 years now, I've been saying the same thing. | ||
| I did serve. | ||
| I was active Army. | ||
| And at the time when I went into basic in AIT advanced individual training, there were new policies put in place that, for instance, women could not be dropped on the pavement to do punitive push-ups because they might get their hands cut by the rocks on the pavement. | ||
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So it was things like that that I saw as concerning. | |
| On one hand, we were being told in the military that the military standards know no gender, that it's the same, they're equal standards, we're a fighting machine, and that's it. | ||
| And on the other hand, I noticed how very different the physical fitness standards were for women versus men. | ||
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And I said when I first got out, I wrote a piece, a commentary piece saying that most GI Jane should go home. | |
| Because if you can't have the same standards in your military fighting force, if you have to lower them to allow certain people to serve, then that degrades the ability of your military force to do its core mission. | ||
| So when it comes to physical fitness standards, I am entirely in line with Secretary of War's Pete Hegseth's new policies. | ||
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If you can achieve and reach those physical fitness, it shouldn't matter whether you're male or female. | |
| But if you can't, then you're out. | ||
| And Cheryl Chumley is our guest today. | ||
| If you'd like to speak to her, you can. | ||
| Our lines are biparty. | ||
| Republicans are on 202-748-8001. | ||
| Democrats 202-748-8000. | ||
| And Independents 202-748-8002. | ||
| You can start calling in now. | ||
| Cheryl, sticking with the Defense Department, I want to ask you about Secretary Hegset's new policy on the press. | ||
| Here is on X. | ||
| He says, Pentagon access is a privilege, not a right. | ||
| So press no longer roams free. | ||
| Press must wear visible badge. | ||
| Credentialed press no longer permitted to solicit criminal acts. | ||
| Done. | ||
| Pentagon now has the same rules as every U.S. military installation. | ||
| What do you think? | ||
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Well, so 90% of what the policy makes clear is common sense. | |
| The part that I had an issue with was having journalists, having media organizations sign a paper agreeing to abide these new policies. | ||
| And specifically, the area that I did not like was the notion that journalists agree to not solicit classified or sensitive information from sources. | ||
| And if they do, they could be deemed a security or safety threat. | ||
| And I thought that that was very broad language that really intrudes on the right of not just the press, but the individuals in America that the press represents to exercise their First Amendment, God-given freedoms. | ||
| Let's go to calls. | ||
| Let's talk to Cheryl, Democrat in Aloha, Oregon. | ||
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Yes. | |
| Go ahead, Sharon. | ||
| You're on the air with Cheryl Chumley. | ||
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Oh, hi. | |
| Well, I just wanted to make a truthful comment about my own experience. | ||
| I've attended four No Kings rallies or four rallies starting in May. | ||
| Standing next to me were 10 other 70-year-old women, my friends and neighbors, my sister. | ||
| We spent the day before each rally going over the issues that we were concerned about and what we wanted to put on our handmade signs. | ||
| My brother-in-law stapled them together and we stood and we sang Power to the People and we chanted what does democracy look like? | ||
| This is what democracy looks like. | ||
| And I never received a penny and nobody contacted me. | ||
| And nobody around me of the hundreds of people I've talked to at the last war received any money. | ||
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And none of us are in Antifa. | |
| And the average age at my rally at Tigard, Oregon, was around 60, 60, 70 years old. | ||
| And nobody wore a mask and nobody did violence. | ||
| We sang it. | ||
| And when people, some people went by in trucks and gave us a finger, we gave them the peace sign. | ||
| And Sharon, are you going out today as well? | ||
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I am. | |
| I'm going. | ||
| My sister is going to the Tigered One in the morning. | ||
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I'm going to go to the gym this time. | |
| And I'm second attendee. | ||
| We attend two usually every time. | ||
| All right, Sharon. | ||
| Let's get a response from Cheryl. | ||
| Go ahead. | ||
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So I hope she has a peaceful rally. | |
| I hope she has a good time. | ||
| As I said, I'm all in favor for Americans going out and rallying and voicing their concerns with government. | ||
| That is a core American freedom. | ||
| But I did never say, I never said that these groups were paying activists. | ||
| I didn't say that. | ||
| I said that these communists and socialists and far-leftist groups were sponsoring these rallies. | ||
| And that's still not to say that everybody who goes out and attends and participates is a card-carrying member of the Communist Party. | ||
| But it is to say that we have to recognize the root, the foundation, the supporters of these organizations and who actually are organizing them and bringing them about. | ||
| Lawrence, a Republican in Illinois. | ||
| Good morning, Lawrence. | ||
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Good morning, Cheryl and C-SPAN. | |
| Yeah, where to begin. | ||
| I had a couple comments for the previous guests, too, but the No Kings Rally basically is about 250 years too late. | ||
| If people knew history, I mean, that's why we broke away from the King of England. | ||
| So I don't understand. | ||
| I don't understand the No Kings rally, but whatever. | ||
| The other comment I wanted to make is my spouse of going on over 40 years, 41 years, I'm in my 70s, migrated here from a South American country. | ||
| She's Hispanic and black from a communist country in South America. | ||
| So I've lived in the Bay Area of San Francisco. | ||
| I grew up in Chicago. | ||
| I lived in, spent time in Bolivia and Peru. | ||
| I can't believe most of the racist and ridiculous comments are made mostly from Democrats. | ||
| The last comment I'd like to make was the working families didn't make any distinction either. | ||
| The previous gentleman, working family, you know, the person who's out digging a hole or working construction is from a working family. | ||
| And you know who else is from a working family? | ||
| The president of a company or the president of a bank. | ||
| Perfect example would be Donald Trump is from a working family. | ||
| Perfect working family that the Democrats loved him before he got into politics. | ||
| They all invited him to weddings and TV shows. | ||
| Oprah had him on. | ||
| Clinton had him at his daughter's wedding. | ||
| They loved the guy. | ||
| All right, let's get a response. | ||
| Go ahead, Cheryl. | ||
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What can I say? | |
| He's right. | ||
| Everything he said, I agree with. | ||
| And, you know, it just made me think when he made the comment that Democrats are the ones that make most of the racist comments and things like that. | ||
| I just wanted to elaborate on that. | ||
| When you look out at the No Kings rallies that are going forth today, take a look how many Hamas enablers are out there, how much anti-Semitism is flowing through and coursing under these rallies. | ||
| Because I'm pretty sure in some of these cities, at least, that there are going to be a lot of down with Israel, save the Palestinian people type protests. | ||
| I wonder your thoughts, Cheryl, on this the Republican, the young Republican chat that was reported by Politico and the response. | ||
| For instance, Vice President Vance, This Is the Hill, saying, young Republicans chat, that's what kids do. | ||
| As you know, there was a lot of anti-Semitism, a lot of very hateful things on those chats. | ||
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So just a quick response to that. | |
| It's horrible, right? | ||
| I mean, I think we can all agree that the comments were ugly and horrible. | ||
| But let's put this in proper context. | ||
| The report on the young Republicans came about because they're in my own state of Virginia here. | ||
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There was a lot of reporting on Jay Jones, who is running for Attorney General of Virginia, and the comments he made about fantasizing about murdering his political opponent and wishing to see his political opponent's wife's children die in her arms and a few other texts that came up that seemed alarming. | |
| So then Politico did its due diligence reporting to find something from the other side to sort of distract from the discussions going forth about Jay Jones. | ||
| And what they came up with was these young Republicans, these kids who are not running for any political office. | ||
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So they're not seeking a taxpayer-funded position. | |
| And by the way, they were in a private chat group just doing, as Vice President JD Vance said, what stupid kids do, right? | ||
| So there's a big difference there. | ||
| And so when you ask my thoughts on these young Republicans' comments, ugly, divisive, don't support it, but not as bad as what's taking place in Virginia right now with Jay Jones and this guy seeking office with the fantasies he has and the hopes to become the highest law enforcement official in my state. | ||
| And I'll just show that for people just so that they know where that is. | ||
| I'll find it. | ||
| We'll go back to that. | ||
| Here's Julius in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, Independent Line. | ||
| Go ahead, Julius. | ||
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Yes, good morning. | |
| So I agree with the guests that I think No Kings is a very poor choice for a name. | ||
| I agree with a caller previously that it's about 250 years too late. | ||
| So what I see in this country, and this is where I may disagree with the guest, is that I don't see that we have a left at all. | ||
| Functionally, we have two very corporate right parties that are very beneficial to the billionaire class. | ||
| And what we're missing is a labor movement, a functional left. | ||
| And a lot of what we're seeing in our politics is related to growing income inequality, not just here, but also globally. | ||
| So some of the issues would be that when we have legislation that passes, it always benefits wealthy people. | ||
| And very often there's a trickle or a sunset clause that's for the people, but it expires, but the tax cuts for the rich stay. | ||
| And that's what's going on. | ||
| And then we have two parties, and we have all these pundits that come on to C-SPANs that engage in culture wars. | ||
| They bring up stuff that is just silly, childish, immature, not grown-up type conversation. | ||
| And then we fight about it, the people, and they create division. | ||
| And that's what's going on. | ||
| This lady's engaging in it. | ||
| All the guests engage in it on C-SPAN, and we don't have grown-up conversations. | ||
| And that's getting to be very dangerous because there is a growing, dangerous polarization in the country. | ||
| It would not surprise me if there was violence on both sides today and growing violence in the country. | ||
| And so what we need to do is we need to recognize that fascism, oligarchy, that's what's in charge of the government. | ||
| It is no longer a democracy, right? | ||
| And we have to reclaim government. | ||
| Now, the people marching the street, I love that you're marching. | ||
| I love protests, peace will protest. | ||
| I would say that the most effective march that I have seen in my lifetime was actually January 6th. | ||
| I don't agree with a thing that those people were angry about and marching for. | ||
| I don't agree with the things that they were marching for, but they at least knew where the centers of power were. | ||
| No Kings has no clue. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Cheryl, your thoughts. | ||
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Yeah, so that was a great caller. | |
| I could probably have a discussion with him for an hour or so, but just to try and address some of his points. | ||
| I think those are excellent points. | ||
| And let me just give an example of where Republicans have failed, because I agree. | ||
| We have two political parties who are battling against each other, mostly creating purposeful divisions among the people in America so they can, in their various political capabilities, swarm in and pretend to have the answer for the people. | ||
| I have said for the very, very longest time that the issue in America is not with Republicans or Democrats or pitting or voting one over the other. | ||
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It was the loss of our individual freedoms in America. | |
| It was the loss of the concept of God-given individual rights. | ||
| And you've seen Republicans exploit open borders for their own business purposes. | ||
| You've seen Democrats exploit open borders for their own voting interests and for their own agendas. | ||
| So that's just one example of what that caller was saying, that these political parties aren't working for us as individuals. | ||
| And what we need as a nation is to recapture that spirit of America, that God-given individual right and freedom, which is the American exceptionalism that keeps America above and beyond any other nation in the world. | ||
| And part of the problem is we're not teaching civics, we're not teaching proper history in school, we're degrading the economy to the point where we have young people clamoring for socialism because they can't make it on their own in a free market. | ||
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So it's a cyclical thing that's taking place in America, degrading our greatness. | |
| And I see the core foundation is the loss of that individualism, that loss of the concept of God-given rights. | ||
| All right. | ||
| And just to go back to what we were talking about, Politico, quote, I love Hitler. | ||
| Leaked messages expose young Republicans' racist chat. | ||
| Thousands of private messages reveal young GOP leaders joking about gas chambers, slavery, and rape. | ||
| That's at Politico if you want to read that. | ||
| And then Cheryl's comment: this is Fox News. | ||
| Top Dem leaders refused to call on disgraced AG nominee to drop out of Virginia Race. | ||
| That is Jay Jones, who was running for Attorney General in Virginia. | ||
| He said he was, quote, ashamed and embarrassed of the surface text messages from 2022. | ||
| That's at Fox News to find out more about that. | ||
| And here's the, you know what? | ||
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That was very clever what you just did there, right? | |
| Because you come out and you read, you attribute these ugly arguments to GOP leaders, right? | ||
| They're kids. | ||
| They're young Republicans. | ||
| They don't hold public office. | ||
| They're not seeking public office. | ||
| They're not tax paid. | ||
| And then you talk about Fox News and say my comment was aligned with Fox News that Jay Jones has apologized. | ||
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Well, read Jay Jones's text. | |
| You know, read that for the callers in the world. | ||
| So, Cheryl, I am simply reading the headlines of Politico, and I'm encouraging our audience to go and read it for themselves. | ||
| I am not commenting on this at all. | ||
| Here's Nancy Cedar Falls, Iowa Democrat. | ||
| Go ahead, Nancy. | ||
| You're on with Cheryl Chumley. | ||
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Hello, Cheryl and Greta. | |
| My statement is really, I'm sorry. | ||
| That's okay. | ||
| Go ahead. | ||
| My statement is really pretty simple. | ||
| I don't need to lower myself to the level of those that say we hate, such as the man that said this is a hate rally rather than a no kings rally. | ||
| We can love instead by not being hypocritical. | ||
| I don't point fingers. | ||
| Instead, I use polite verbiage using I statements. | ||
| My signs say, please, no kings. | ||
| And my other side says, actually, I love America. | ||
| I don't know anyone that gets paid to protest, whatever they are using their First Amendment rights to protest. | ||
| Cheryl. | ||
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I'm glad that she has a good experience with the protests and rallies. | |
| And once again, I would like to say that I never raised any issue about paid protesters. | ||
| But since it's been brought up twice now by callers, I do know from my years and years covering local governments for local community newspapers that there were leftist organizations that did pay people to attend zoning board meetings, board of supervisor meetings, city council meetings. | ||
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They paid for them to attend and to present viewpoints to the boards, pretending as if they were speaking for the citizens of the community. | |
| So if it happens on the local level, then chances are pretty good it's happening on the federal level, on the national level. | ||
| And we do have evidence of some organizations funding some of these protests. | ||
| Just for the record, again, I never did say that these no kings protests were being funded by anybody. | ||
| And one more call. | ||
| Dave in Dana Point, California, Republican. | ||
| Good morning, Dave. | ||
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Yes, good morning. | |
| Thank you for taking my call. | ||
| Basically, number one, I'm not a Republican. | ||
| I'm a Trump again. | ||
| I go by what Leo Terrell says. | ||
| I was never in the, I'm 58 years old. | ||
| I was never in politics prior to 2016. | ||
| Trump basically brought me into it. | ||
| What I have is a question that I want to ask, but give you my answer first to the question, and then you answer it. | ||
| My question is: why don't you think the liberals and the Democrats get this stuff? | ||
| For instance, I believe that they're being brainwashed through their smartphones. | ||
| I believe they're being brainwashed through all the liberal media that's on TV and everywhere else. | ||
| I believe they're being brainwashed through our school systems. | ||
| I have a bunch of friends who are teachers. | ||
| They all, when it dropped down from college into the high school, because they were all high school teachers, they couldn't stand it. | ||
| So they dropped down to junior high. | ||
| Then it dropped down into that. | ||
| So they couldn't stand that. | ||
| So then they dropped down into elementary school, and now it's reached in there. | ||
| They're getting ready to retire because, like I said, I'm 58. | ||
| They're all 58. | ||
| So, Dave, we're running out of time. | ||
| Can you make a real quick point? | ||
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Yes. | |
| Again, all the stuff that the liberal Democrats are for hurt our women and children, open borders, directly. | ||
| Okay, let's get Cheryl to respond to that. | ||
| Go ahead, Cheryl. | ||
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Well, it is an interesting question, and I know we're running out of time. | |
| So let me just say, I think the Democrat Party has gone through a dramatic change since Bill Clinton years. | ||
| It happened under Barack Obama, really sped up for his eight years. | ||
| Under Joe Biden, things got worse. | ||
| And I think the Democrat Party has been infiltrated by and corrupted by the far left, such as the Democratic Socialists of America, Communists, and Marxists. | ||
| And I think that's why you're getting this big political divide. | ||
| It's not about for America. | ||
| It's for the parties. | ||
| And the Democrat Party is not the Democrat Party of JFK or even Bill Clinton days. | ||
| All right, that's Cheryl Chumley, online opinion editor at the Washington Times, also a host of the podcast called Bold and Blunt. | ||
| Cheryl, thanks so much for joining us today. | ||
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Thank you. | |
| Welcome back to Washington Journal. | ||
| We're talking now about the future of the Ukraine-Russia war with John Herbst. | ||
| He was former U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine under the George W. Bush administration, currently senior director at the Atlantic Council Eurasia Center. | ||
| Welcome to the program. | ||
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My pleasure to be here. | |
| Thank you. | ||
| So a lot has been happening on this front. | ||
| On the war between Russia and Ukraine, the president hosted President Zelensky in the Oval Office. | ||
| He had talked with Putin on the phone for two hours. | ||
| And the president, President Trump, has announced another summit with Russia. | ||
| So what are you making of all this news? | ||
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To briefly describe it, President Trump has been threatening since May to bring major pressure on Putin because Putin is blocking Trump's own proposals for peace. | |
| And three times he seemed to be on the verge of doing something strong. | ||
| And three times he paused and pivoted because Putin reached out to him and suggested, you know, instead of measures, let's have a negotiation. | ||
| That happened in May. | ||
| It happened most famously in August. | ||
| And it appears to be happening right now. | ||
| You mentioned the August summit that happened in Alaska. | ||
| We, of course, remember the warmth between the two leaders and the red carpet. | ||
| The United States didn't get anything out of that. | ||
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That's correct. | |
| That's correct. | ||
| Do you feel like it's a mistake to offer Putin another summit with the president? | ||
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I will be a little bit cautious in responding. | |
| I think that if President Trump wants to achieve his stated goal of a durable end to the war between Russia and Ukraine, he needs to put major pressure on the Kremlin. | ||
| He has been talking about this very clearly since May, but he's been reluctant to do so. | ||
| What does major pressure on the Kremlin look like? | ||
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It means significant arms to Ukraine, which the Europeans and the Ukrainians can pay for, that will make it hard, much harder for Russia to make any gains whatsoever, and significant economic pressure. | |
| That's what's within play. | ||
| And since Trump and Zelensky met in New York City about four weeks ago, Trump's been talking very seriously about major pressure, including the provision of our cruise missiles, the tomahawks, to Ukraine. | ||
| But then I think Putin got very nervous in the last week, which is why you had that phone call a few days ago between Putin and Trump. | ||
| Because of the tomahawks? | ||
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Tomahawks in particular, but in general, serious pressure coming from the United States. | |
| And as happened in August, Trump said, okay, let's see if we can get you to agree to do the right thing without major pressure. | ||
| And so that's where we are, and that's why we haven't seen any progress. | ||
| Trump had a triumph in the Middle East. | ||
| I worked 15 years of my career in the State Department on Arab-Israeli affairs. | ||
| What he did was remarkable. | ||
| But the way he got it done, he said at Sharm el-Sheikh, he said, if I had not bombed Iran, this wouldn't happen. | ||
| So with Russia, he's not going to bomb Russia, but he needs to use the same concept of serious pressure, that he's not going to let Russia get away with this war of aggression. | ||
| And he's yet to use that pressure. | ||
| You said you think that Putin got nervous from the pressure. | ||
| What is it about the tomahawks that you think caused Putin to be so worried and to reach out and have that two-hour conversation? | ||
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This is not a miracle weapon. | |
| If we were to give Ukraine tomahawks tomorrow, which I believe we should in our own interest, it's not going to end the war. | ||
| But it would tell Putin that American support for Ukraine on the battlefield is real. | ||
| That your hope, Mr. Putin, that the United States will simply ignore this war and allow you to do whatever you want is not going to happen. | ||
| That's the importance of tomahawks. | ||
| It also gives the Ukrainians the ability to very precisely target targets in Moscow. | ||
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Well, the Ukrainians can do that now. | |
| Moscow, with their extraordinary drones, and they're also developing missiles. | ||
| Their drones can travel as much as... | ||
| Let every... | ||
| Of extending and being people of peace... | ||
| If you believe in that, why don't you make them hear it one more time in here today? | ||
| As it's been stated, my name is Pastor Delante Gonson. |