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| Go to the calls now, Carl, Chicago, Illinois. | ||
| Democrat, good morning. | ||
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Yes, good morning. | |
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Good. | ||
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Yes, I'm a very liberal Democrat, but I'd like to make a statement to call us this morning and maybe listen to this. | |
| I'm not going to say this in a kind of partisan way. | ||
| I'm going to try to be as honest and frank as I can. | ||
| This year, we were in a continued resolution at the beginning of the year. | ||
| When Donald Trump came into office, he chose to have an arbitrary date to pass what he wanted to be the priority, the big, beautiful bill. | ||
| When he did that, the Republicans basically decided, well, oh, that's their priority, not the budget or anything. | ||
| It was that. | ||
| And they worked on that all year because he had a deadline, his own deadline of July the 4th. | ||
| Now, in that big, beautiful bill, that was total Republicans working alone. | ||
| And they made negotiations in that bill in order to get it passed. | ||
| One was to create a $50 million slush fund for farmer sisters to get some of their members to vote. | ||
| And the other was to cut Medicaid by $800 million, which is almost a trial. | ||
| And there's not that much fraud abuse and waste in that. | ||
| That is basically going to be a cut to services. | ||
| And they know it. | ||
| That was something to get people like the Freedom Party to accept that, well, okay, we're not reducing the debt, but we are going to be cutting social spending. | ||
| And that was to get them to go along. | ||
| All right, Carl, and we'll stay in Chicago to joy Independent Line. | ||
| Good morning, Joy. | ||
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Good morning. | |
| I just cannot believe how people are willing to allow services to people who are vulnerable to be cut based on absolutely nothing. | ||
| And I just don't like the derogatory split between Democrats. | ||
| It's just so tribal. | ||
| And it really reminisces to me what happened in Rwanda in 1994. | ||
| You know, how people became so vehement against each other. | ||
| But It's almost like they eat their own fault. | ||
| Miller, I just don't understand how people can be so hateful that they would allow people to suffer and lose programs, WIC programs, all these programs for vulnerable people. | ||
| They make us hate each other while they sit there and celebrate at the top. | ||
| We hate each other. | ||
| We're like a pack of wolves eating meat down here for crumbs while they are just so manipulative. | ||
| I just wish people would just open their eyes and see what's actually going on instead of hating one another. | ||
| All right, Joy. | ||
| And we are taking your calls for just this first half hour on the government shutdown. | ||
| The lines are: bipartisan Republicans are on 202748-8001. | ||
| Democrats 202748-8000. | ||
| Independents 202-748-8002. | ||
| And our line for federal workers is 202-748-8003. | ||
| And while you're calling in, let's take a look at Senator Hoyer. | ||
| Stenny Hoyer, Democrat of Maryland. | ||
| He was at a press conference yesterday with Democratic lawmakers representing Maryland and Virginia, and he spoke about the administration's mass firings. | ||
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Ladies and gentlemen, every authoritarian leader has had his grim reaper. | |
| Russell Vogt is Donald Trump's grim reaper. | ||
| Trump even posted a bizarre video describing vote in those terms. | ||
| That's who he wanted: a grim reaper. | ||
| Grim is defined in the dictionary as sinister, savage, and ferocious. | ||
| A trauma causer. | ||
| Reaper is defined that which is used to cut down. | ||
| Vote swings his scythe through the federal government as thoughtlessly and dangerously as Elon Musk and the Doge children did with their chainsaws. | ||
| The effect, sadly, has been the same: great damage to the government, the American people, and the morale, psychological well-being, and efficiency of the patriotic American workers, we call federal workers, who serve them. | ||
| It's Senator Sen Stenny Hoyer. | ||
| And this is Mike, Warrington, North Carolina, Independent Line. | ||
| Good morning. | ||
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Yes, I'm just as old as Trump. | |
| Trump has sold President Miller, Steve Miller, and Trump has sold us out. | ||
| And he's going to sell us out. | ||
| So, to all my evangelists, I pray that all of them fly and the plane fall out the sky to save America because he has killed America. | ||
| He sold us out, just gave millions of dollars to a foreign country, but yet still, we're over here in the United States suffering with food stamps, snap, social security, all of that. | ||
| Now, what are we going to do? | ||
| Are we going to let him do that? | ||
| We got rid of King back in the day. | ||
| He's making us have soup lines. | ||
| That's what he's going back to. | ||
| That's what it is. | ||
| So I pray they go away. | ||
| Ken in Florida, Republican line. | ||
| Hi, Ken. | ||
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Good morning. | |
| Everything that's going on in this country right now, it's not Democrats versus Republicans or independents or anything else. | ||
| Everything that's going on in this country is already adversely affecting everybody. | ||
| And I mean everybody, whether you're apolitical or independent or Democrat or Republican or anything. | ||
| It's already adversely affecting everybody. | ||
| And again, it's not Republicans versus Democrats. | ||
| It's all MAGA. | ||
| And I view MAGA as nothing but a colossal criminal enterprise. | ||
| I mean, it's just literally ripping off this country, blackmailing every other nation on the planet. | ||
| In what way, Ken, explain what you mean by ripping off this country. | ||
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Trump and the MAGA people are using the U.S. government to enrich themselves. | |
| I mean, he's got, you know, hotel things going on in Dubai, Indonesia, you know, giving $20 billion to Argentina to influence an election down there for crying out loud. | ||
| It's really just a massive criminal enterprise just enriching the MAGA base. | ||
| And Ken, did you? | ||
| Sorry, did you vote for President Trump? | ||
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No, I didn't. | |
| I am a registered Republican. | ||
| I'm a proud three-plus-year veteran of the U.S. Army during the Vietnam War era. | ||
| You know, I lost an uncle in Korea. | ||
| My dad went from North Africa to Sicily to Italy and came back. | ||
| Otherwise, I wouldn't even be here. | ||
| All right, Ken. | ||
| I'm going to move on to Charles in Tennessee. | ||
| Democrat, good morning, Charles. | ||
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Yes, ma'am. | |
| Good morning. | ||
| Thank you for taking my call. | ||
| People need to realize that when we lose this Social Security and stuff and all these Obamacare and stuff, people are going to die. | ||
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I mean, this, I don't care if you're Republican or Democrat. | |
| They can't handle this. | ||
| I mean, this is going to be a bankrupt. | ||
| It's going to bankrupt people. | ||
| This health care is as dangerous as it can be. | ||
| And the fellow was just on there. | ||
| It's right. | ||
| Now, I guess we see, you know, what that country gets for giving Trump up plane there. | ||
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They get to build their own fire force base here in the United States. | |
| But people, whether you're Republican, Democrat, or whatever, we cannot afford to lose our health care. | ||
| And another thing, too, there, how can we not afford health care here, but we can send Israel all this money for them to have one pair of health care, if I'm not wrong. | ||
| I believe I'm right. | ||
| I don't actually correct me if I'm not. | ||
| But how can we do that? | ||
| How can we give $20 billion to somebody the other day, but we can't have insurance for the little kid? | ||
| We can't have a snout program for them. | ||
| And I guess that's all I got to say. | ||
| But thank you very much. | ||
| Let's take a look at what House Speaker Mike Johnson had to say at a news conference yesterday about the Republicans' plan to resolve this impasse. | ||
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You've been doing this every single day, coming up here trying to pressure Senate Democrats. | |
| They've been not budgeting. | ||
| They've blocked this bill time and time again. | ||
| At what point, for the good of the country, do you need to change your strategy to negotiate a deal with Africans? | ||
| It's a great question. | ||
| Manu asks, why don't I change my strategy? | ||
| I don't have any strategy, Manu. | ||
| I'm doing the right thing, the clearly obvious thing, the traditional thing. | ||
| That's exactly what Chuck Schumer voted for in March of this year and gave impassioned speeches was the right and only thing. | ||
| I don't have anything to negotiate. | ||
| I'll say this again to everyone here. | ||
| We did not load up the temporary funding bill with any Republican priorities or partisan priorities at all. | ||
| I don't have anything that I can take off of that document to make it more palatable for them. | ||
| So all I am able to do is come to this microphone every day, look right into the camera, and plead with the American people, as Chairwoman McClain said, to call your Senate Democrats and ask them to do the right thing. | ||
| We're not playing games. | ||
| They're playing a game. | ||
| We're not. | ||
| The strategy is to do the right and obvious thing and keep the government moving for the people. | ||
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Why don't we move closer to their position? | |
| Their position is this, Manu. | ||
| Their position is they want to spend $1.5 trillion in your tax dollars to fund nonsense overseas. | ||
| They want to give $200 billion to illegal aliens. | ||
| We are not going to do that. | ||
| We're not going to do it. | ||
| The American people don't want us to do it. | ||
| And they're using this for partisan political purposes to give themselves cover. | ||
| They don't want the Marxists to kick. | ||
| Chuck Schumer doesn't want to get a Marxist candidate challenge, AOC or someone else. | ||
| Mamdami is probably going to be, sadly, shockingly, the mayor of New York City. | ||
| Marxism is on the rise. | ||
| Hey, this is not your father's Democratic Party, everybody, okay? | ||
| They're turning into communists openly. | ||
| And so Chuck Schumer does not fashion himself as a communist just yet. | ||
| So he's got to show a fight to these people. | ||
| That's what this is about. | ||
| I'm not playing his game, Manu. | ||
| I cannot go in and say, oh, gee, Chuck, what can I offer you? | ||
| You know what? | ||
| Maybe we'll just send $10 billion overseas to LGBTQ initiatives in the Horn of Africa or Malaysia or wherever you want to do that. | ||
| No, no, we're not wasting taxpayers' dollars. | ||
| I was a Speaker of the House. | ||
| And we're asked about healthcare in Israel. | ||
| So, real quick, this is trade.gov. | ||
| This is the website of the International Trade Administration. | ||
| It says that Israel provides universal health care coverage to Israeli citizens and permanent residents via four independent health management organizations, HMOs, and a network of mandated benefit packages, including hospital, primary specialty, mental health, and maternity, as well as prescription, drugs, and other services. | ||
| And that is a compulsory program that everybody has to join. | ||
| That's for Israel. | ||
| And this is Sarah in Maryland, Independent Line. | ||
| Hi, Sarah. | ||
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Hey, good morning. | |
| I just wanted to say that the cuts go across party line. | ||
| It doesn't matter if you're a Democrat or a Republican. | ||
| It's not that when Democratic programs are cut, that only Democrats benefit from them. | ||
| So it's going to go across party line in regards to this not being the Democratic Party as it was 40 years ago. | ||
| Well, the same can be said about the Republican Party. | ||
| It's not the same party that it was 30 or 40 years ago. | ||
| And in regards to what I think is important is to keep in mind is, and I read this the other day, that there's about 240 million adults in this country that are 18 years and older that can actually vote. | ||
| And out of those 240 million people, only about 155 million actually voted. | ||
| And out of those 155 million, more than half, about 80 million or so, voted for President Trump and the Republican Party. | ||
| So they are our elected leaders. | ||
| However, the other 75 million did not vote for this administration. | ||
| And out of the other 85 million that didn't bother to vote, I really would be interested in what these people that did not vote think. | ||
| 85 million people is a lot of people that did not make their voices heard. | ||
| And I think it is a shame that people don't take that privilege to vote seriously. | ||
| You know, if you like what you see, great. | ||
| You can continue to vote for that the next election. | ||
| But if you do not like what you see and you would like to see some changes, go to the voting booth, register to vote. | ||
| And if you are already registered, please go and vote. | ||
| Make your voice heard. | ||
| This is your country as well. | ||
| So we all should take that seriously. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Barbara, Democrat in Georgia. | ||
| Hi, Barbara. | ||
| You're on the air. | ||
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Hi. | |
| I just wanted to say one thing. | ||
| I wanted to speak to the Republicans. | ||
| Listen here, Mike Johnson, he gets up there and he tells that the subsidies are going towards the illegal immigrants. | ||
| That's a lie. | ||
| The subsidies on the insurance is not going towards illegal immigrants. | ||
| It's going to help people get insurance that work in these low-paying jobs. | ||
| And without the subsidies, then they don't have insurance. | ||
| Please listen. | ||
| It's not the Democrats' fault. | ||
| Brian and Maryland, Republican. | ||
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Good morning, Brian. | |
| Good morning. | ||
| Yeah, I'd just like to say, you know, it's Democrats, Republicans. | ||
| We're all in here together. | ||
| You know, the Republicans are voting pretty much straight across the board, except for maybe one. | ||
| The Republicans can't do these votes on their own. | ||
| And for the Democrats to hold the bill up, you know, not over a couple hundred million dollars, but $1.5 trillion is absolutely absurd. | ||
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And be it what it may, the ADA, the affordable health care, if it needs COVID money still to bring people's subsidies down, then something's not right. | |
| You know, let's pass the bill, get into regular session, and fix the thing and be done with it. | ||
| But we need Democrats to vote for a continuing resolution. | ||
| And if we can't get that, then they're shutting the government down. | ||
| So, Brian. | ||
| Yeah, so what Democrats are saying is we don't trust Republicans to fix this thing. | ||
| They've been talking about trying to fix it since it was passed, and nothing has happened. | ||
| So what are your thoughts on do you think it can be fixed before the end of the year? | ||
| Or do you think that those subsidies, those tax credits should expire? | ||
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Well, you know, we have till like November 17th, I think they said. | |
| And that's what the Republicans were trying to do, was get the bill passed, take it up in regular session, and then try to get things what the Democrats want or, you know, what they're asking for, you know, by in that time period, you know. | ||
| But just to shut the government down, I mean, that's all on the Democrats. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Staten Island is next. | ||
| Independent line, Michelle. | ||
| Good morning. | ||
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Good morning, C-Spin. | |
| First, I want to say, as always, great, great cameraman. | ||
| I just love the, I feel like I'm right there, the way they go in with the camera. | ||
| The shutdown, I mean, Trump, all he has to do is get back all that money he just gave away. | ||
| Bring it back, Trump. | ||
| Tell him you made a mistake. | ||
| You want your money back. | ||
| Which money that you give away? | ||
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To what country you sent money? | |
| Argentina. | ||
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Yes. | |
| Yes. | ||
| Take that money back. | ||
| We need it. | ||
| You know, I was always taught: take care of your own house first and before you want to clean anybody else's. | ||
| You know, and as far as this shutdown, it's all about Epstein. | ||
| You know, we're all forgetting. | ||
| We want to forget about the Epstein files. | ||
| It's not going away, Trump. | ||
| And thank you, Marjorie Green. | ||
| I'm very proud of you. | ||
| You're looking for your heart. | ||
| Tifton, Georgia, Democrat Brenda, good morning. | ||
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Good morning. | |
| I would just like to piggyback up the last caller. | ||
| Thank you, Marjorie Taylor Greene. | ||
| I would never think I would say that. | ||
| But anyway, I would like to get back to the shutdown bill. | ||
| Mimi, you're doing a great job. | ||
| Listen, we shut down this government. | ||
| The Republicans did. | ||
| Mike Johnson is standing up there like he has the guts. | ||
| Mike Johnson needs to be fired. | ||
| Get away from the mic. | ||
| Put someone up there that's going to do the job. | ||
| Open up the government. | ||
| Let's get it started. | ||
| All that money he gave to Argentina, it could take care of the American people. | ||
| Why are you giving Trump holding all that money for himself and his billionaire friends? | ||
| Now, America is waking up now. | ||
| We try to tell you guys, this guy is not for America. | ||
| He is selling America out. | ||
| Wake up, people. | ||
| And here's Sarah Ranburn, Alabama Republican. | ||
| Sarah, you're on. | ||
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Hello. | |
| Hi. | ||
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I'm calling to say all these people that are calling in, warning, oh, why can't we get this, this, this? | |
| Do they not realize what a debt we have got hanging over our heads? | ||
| What do the Democrats want? | ||
| They want one and a half trillion dollars more to spend. | ||
| Your children, your grandchildren are not going to have anything left if we stick with people, the Democrats. | ||
| I can't believe some of them are fair. | ||
| How they get up there and tell things that are not true. | ||
| Thanks. | ||
| Have a good day. | ||
| And let's hear from House Democratic Leader Hakeem Jeffries talking about the administration's plans to fire thousands of federal workers. | ||
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The president and the White House have confirmed now 4,000 firings across the federal government. | |
| As Kevin noted, that's something that Democrats previously said they were concerned about. | ||
| If there was a government shutdown, the president would go through with this. | ||
| Is there a way that Democrat strategy here has opened the door for the president to go about these firings? | ||
| Donald Trump and his administration have been engaging in mass firings since day one of his presidency. | ||
| For the Republicans, cruelty is the point. | ||
| And the fact that they are celebrating, meaning the extremist, the extreme mega-Republican, the fact that they're celebrating, firing hardworking federal employees doesn't strengthen their position with the American people. | ||
| It weakens it. | ||
| Because the American people don't accept that kind of cruel and callous behavior and know that any responsible group of people would actually be standing up to support our hardworking federal employees and trying to actually find a bipartisan path forward to reopening the government, which is what Republicans refuse to do. | ||
| In the face of a growing health care crisis, open enrollment on November 1st. | ||
| Premiums, copays, and deductibles about to skyrocket and the fact that Republicans have already enacted the largest cut to Medicaid in American history as part of their one big ugly bill so they could reward their billionaire donors with permanent tax breaks. | ||
| What, same period of time, refuse to consider a multi-year extension of the Affordable Care Act or a permanent extension of the Affordable Care Act tax credits. | ||
| Democrats are fighting for everyday Americans. | ||
| Cancel the cuts, lower the costs, save health care. | ||
| Here's Joseph, Independent Line in Wayne, New Jersey. | ||
| Joseph, good morning. | ||
| Joseph? | ||
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I hear. | |
| I was watching the TV and listening to this at the same time. | ||
| They got all mixed up. | ||
| So anyway, I'm talking, I want about the federal workers. | ||
| They talk about federal workers. | ||
| I mean, that's a gravy job. | ||
| Everybody wants it because you get all holidays, you get kind of big raises and everything. | ||
| Everybody wants a government job. | ||
| And then they talk about laying it off. | ||
| They can get governor workers whenever they want. | ||
| Hey, Joseph, have you ever worked for the government? | ||
| I'm just curious. | ||
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No, no. | |
| But I've known a lot of people that worked for the government. | ||
| And they say you really don't have to work for Crying Out Loud. | ||
| I know one guy that was doing like for taxes for the government and all that. | ||
| And he says they give you a certain amount to do, and after that, you're done. | ||
| And you can get done with it in six hours, and they pay you for the other two hours. | ||
| I mean, it's ridiculous. | ||
| You know, government get over, people get paid, overpaid in government. | ||
| And that goes for the senators and everybody else. | ||
| They shouldn't be making what they're getting because half of the time they're only doing sitting down, talking to somebody on the phone and not doing their job, what they're supposed to be doing. | ||
| And that goes, and then some of these people that call up and they say they're Republicans, you know, Diego well, they're not Republicans because they go crazy with Trump. | ||
| I understand some of it, but not all of it. | ||
| People go crazy with Trump. | ||
| Don't do this and do this and do that. | ||
| They don't do this. | ||
| And as far as giving money to different countries, they've been doing that for years. | ||
| So that's nothing new. | ||
| And if people think that's something new, it isn't. | ||
| All right, Joseph. | ||
| On the line for Democrats, North Carolina, Charles, good morning to you. | ||
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Good morning, Mimi. | |
| And before I begin, I just want to tell you how much you guys on C-SPAN do such a great job. | ||
| I appreciate how you guys moderate everything. | ||
| And just you guys do a really good job. | ||
| Now, for my comment, I think the biggest problem right now that I see with a lot of Americans, too many of us only seem to care about what happens to us and our immediate families, and there just seems to be an indifference about does my neighbor have health care? | ||
| If my neighbor loses his job, do I care about it? | ||
| It just seems to be that kind of an indifference. | ||
| Here's a good example of it. | ||
| Right now, you can go to YouTube and you can look at a Charlie Kirk video where he's saying things like black women don't have the brain process and ability to hold a white man's job. | ||
| Or he'll say something like, black people should never have been given civil rights. | ||
| I don't know how other people take that, but I'm greatly offended to see the Medal of Freedom being given to somebody who makes those kind of statements about their fellow citizens. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Well, Charles, we do have that portion of that. | ||
| We'll show that later in the program. | ||
| Sticking to the government shutdown, this is the Associated Press has this. | ||
| It says that some airports refuse to play GNOME video on shutdown for the federal government shutdown and its impact on TSA. | ||
| Airports in New York, Atlanta, Chicago, Las Vegas, Charlotte, Phoenix, Seattle, and more say the video's political content goes against their policies or regulations prohibiting political messaging in their facilities. | ||
| Well, we have that video. | ||
| Take a look, and we'll play it right now. |