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| During a government shutdown because Congress sidelines itself and isn't doing its work. | ||
| And frankly, in this case, that's due to the Democrats in the Senate. | ||
| The House has actually passed a clean CR. | ||
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We've done our work. | |
| We're waiting on the Senate. | ||
| And the people holding up the Senate aren't the Republicans over there. | ||
| It's not even all the Democrats. | ||
| It's Mr. Schumer and the majority of his caucus that decide the government shutdown is better for their political interests than actually making sure the American people get the services they need and deserve. | ||
| Congressman Tom Cole, Republican of Oklahoma, the chair of the Appropriations Committee in the U.S. House, thank you as always for talking to us this morning. | ||
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Greta, thanks for having me. | |
| It's always a pleasure to be on C-SPAN. | ||
| Joining us this morning from Portland, Oregon is Congresswoman Maxine Dexter, Democrat, represents the third district there. | ||
| Congresswoman, thank you for being with us. | ||
| Let's begin with the Democrats' position on this government shutdown. | ||
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Do you agree with it? | |
| The Democrat position is that Republicans need to come to the table to reopen the government. | ||
| They need seven votes in the Senate, and to get those, they need to negotiate. | ||
| So, yes, I agree with this position 100%. | ||
| What is the position? | ||
| Outline it for our viewers who are just joining us. | ||
| And should the party hold firm on all of it? | ||
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You know, a negotiation is always a back and forth, right? | |
| But what we are standing on the line of is protecting health care, cutting the cost for working families, and having an ironclad, enforceable deal that Donald Trump and Russell Vogt can't cut up with resistance or other measures. | ||
| Is the party leaders, are the party leaders, negotiating, or are there any talks happening right now with Republicans? | ||
| Do you know of anything that will happen today? | ||
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I don't know of anything personally in the House. | |
| As you know, we are going to receive whatever the negotiation is in the Senate to get that bill across in the Senate. | ||
| So we are at this point not in the negotiations from my perspective. | ||
| I know Chuck Schumer and Leader Jeffries have been closely collaborating throughout, so they very well may have meetings that I don't know about. | ||
| The Washington Post notes that three of your own two Democrats, one independent in the Senate, broke with party ranks in that chamber and voted with Republicans to have a continuing resolution, a so-called clean one, no policy riders that would keep the government open until November. | ||
| Listen to Angus King, the independent from Maine, talking about why he decided to vote with Republicans, and we'll get your response on the other side. | ||
| The irony of this vote is many feel that this was an opportunity to stand up to Donald Trump, to vote no and to fight back. | ||
| The irony, the paradox is by shutting the government, we're actually giving Donald Trump more power. | ||
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And that was why I voted yes. | |
| I did not want to hand Donald Trump and Russell Vogt and Stephen Miller additional power to decimate the federal government, to decimate the programs that are so important to so many people. | ||
| Here is what Donald Trump said just this afternoon: We can do things during a shutdown that are irreversible, that are bad for them. | ||
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He means the Democrats, like cutting vast numbers of people out, cutting things that they like, cutting programs that they like. | |
| We can do things medically in other ways, including benefits. | ||
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We can cut numbers of people out. | |
| Maya Angelou once said, If someone tells you who they are, you should believe them. | ||
| Donald Trump, in this quote, tells us what he plans to do if there's a shutdown, and it will not be good for the American people. | ||
| Congresswoman, Russell Wilt, the budget director, has said there could be mass layoffs in the coming days. | ||
| He's already started cutting programs and posting on X which programs that they are cutting. | ||
| So did the Democrats further empower the executive branch? | ||
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Absolutely not. | |
| You know, what we know is they don't need a shutdown to massively lay off people. | ||
| They've been doing it illegally. | ||
| throughout their nine months in office or in power right now. | ||
| I agree with the senator that when they tell you who they are, believe them. | ||
| That is absolutely what we know, that they're not trustworthy for negotiations when we have a deal that they are going back on it. | ||
| Congress has the power of the purse, and that has been taken by Trump and Russell vote. | ||
| And we have to take out trust at this point. | ||
| We need to trust but verify. | ||
| And how we verify is having rescissions out of any deal that moves forward. | ||
| It has to be enforceable because they aren't trustworthy. | ||
| And this is a scare tactic, using the threat of mass layoffs as a result of the federal shutdown. | ||
| In fact, they've been doing it already. | ||
| And federal employees are more protected from layoffs during a shutdown. | ||
| So they, in fact, are filing a lawsuit against federal layoffs at this point. | ||
| So I don't take that. | ||
| I know that that's a talking point for them, but 100%, we are absolutely protecting the American people by trying to take away their ability to just do what they want with whatever negotiated settlement or deal that comes out of us. | ||
| Congresswoman Maxine Dexter, our guest here this morning until the top of the end of the Washington Journal at the top of the hour. | ||
| So we'll go to calls. | ||
| Joe in Fort Worth, Texas, Democratic caller. | ||
| Hi, Joe. | ||
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Hi, how are you doing? | |
| Morning, Joe. | ||
| Question or comment? | ||
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I want to ask you, would you read that beautiful book, let the people hear what's in the book? | |
| I would like to know what's in the book, but let it. | ||
| All right, Joe, I'm going to go on to Sherry in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina, Republican. | ||
| Sherry, it's your turn. | ||
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Thank you for having me. | |
| My comment is that President Trump is doing a fabulous job. | ||
| And the thing that he needs to keep doing, we need every immigrant that is not a U.S. citizen out of our country. | ||
| If they have children in the USA, then they, yes, can be a U.S. citizen, but not until they are 18 years old. | ||
| So their parents need to take them back to where they were born. | ||
| And when they get 18, if they want to come back to the United States, then they can come back to the United States. | ||
| I worked for the DNV for quite a few years. | ||
| And I know if you come over illegal, that takes a little while. | ||
| But if you start the process when you come, then you can become a U.S. citizen and get the paper that says that you are a U.S. citizen. | ||
| So there should not be any immigrants in this United States. | ||
| I wish they would come to Myrtle Beach and take every Mexican, every one of them that when I'm my job and I take money from them, they have a wallet full of $100 bills. | ||
| Sherry, how do you know this? | ||
| How do you know this? | ||
| And why Mexicans? | ||
| Why single out Mexicans? | ||
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Not just Mexicans. | |
| They have all kinds of other people that I have seen their passport and they do not, and I have seen them with their Visa cards that have expired. | ||
| Okay. | ||
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And I'll work it out. | |
| Congresswoman, your reaction, your response. | ||
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Yeah, you know, what the color is saying is not unusual across the United States. | |
| I think people are really concerned about their families. | ||
| People are struggling to survive, paycheck to paycheck. | ||
| And when people are struggling and not making ends meet, they start looking at others who might be making it harder for them. | ||
| I very much believe that what we are seeing right now, this conflict over immigration, is because everyone across this country is feeling like they aren't getting a leg up in the world. | ||
| And when people are struggling, they look for someone to blame. | ||
| And I don't mean this individually. | ||
| I think people deserve a stable platform. | ||
| And we have not provided it in this country. | ||
| Now, I will also be very clear. | ||
| We are a country of immigrants. | ||
| Birthright citizenship is protected in the Constitution. | ||
| There are things that I absolutely disagree with, but the sentiment that the caller said, but the sentiment that things are not okay and people need to have stability, that is across this country. | ||
| And that is something that we need to address. | ||
| And we also need those workers. | ||
| I'll just say the hospitality industry, the hospitals, the home care industry, agriculture. | ||
| We don't have enough workers in Oregon here. | ||
| We need immigrants to help us do the work. | ||
| And we should build efficient pathways, legal pathways for them to have permission to work and stay in this country. | ||
| And let me just say the last thing that I think a lot of people don't really understand is that these undocumented immigrants are paying taxes and they cannot receive any benefits. | ||
| And so that is going to hurt our economy as we are removing these people from the workforce. | ||
| Social Security taxes, federal taxes are going to be, the revenue is going to go down. | ||
| Congresswoman, the Republicans point to the emergency Medicaid program, where hospitals in emergency rooms have to provide care for illegal immigrants that come into the emergency room. | ||
| And it's this emergency Medicaid program. | ||
| We read from the Congressional Budget Office over five years it cost $27 billion is the number. | ||
| That that is what Republicans point to when they say Democrats are trying to close the government over giving funding to illegal immigrants. | ||
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Yeah, so I just want to say it as clearly as possible. | |
| Illegal or undocumented immigrants do not have access to Medicaid in the same way that any American has it. | ||
| Any other citizen has it. | ||
| What they are saying is totally disingenuous. | ||
| I'm not going to say they're lying. | ||
| I'm going to say it's disingenuous to suggest that illegal immigrants are somehow getting Medicaid. | ||
| What happens? | ||
| I'm a doctor, critical care doctor. | ||
| If someone shows up in our hospital, we are going to take care of them. | ||
| We don't check documentation when somebody walks in the room because our job is to help people. | ||
| So if someone is in our community, shows up in our emergency room, we are going to take care of them. | ||
| And we aren't going to send them out before they're healthy and ready to go home. | ||
| So what that does is it puts uncompensated care on the hospitals in the communities. | ||
| So taxpayers are paying for this care no matter what. | ||
| They're just going to pay for more expensive care if people don't feel safe coming to the hospital. | ||
| And right now, people can get care regardless of documentation. | ||
| But this bill has nothing. | ||
| What we are standing up for is Medicaid cuts for American citizens that have already been cut and the premium enhanced tax credits that are ending. | ||
| People this month, today, are getting huge increases in their premiums and they're going to lose the tax credits. | ||
| It's going to, it's almost half of the costs that we are trying to recuperate right now that have been cut. | ||
| 27%, I think, of the cuts are from the ACA tax premium enhanced credits that are going away. | ||
| The working families across this country making $60,000 to $150,000 per year are going to be paying an enormous amount and they're going to see it today. | ||
| Back to that emergency Medicaid program that you were talking about as a doctor. | ||
| Is it also Americans who are showing up in emergency rooms without insurance? | ||
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Yeah, and this is going to explode. | |
| Let's just be clear about that. | ||
| When we cut Medicaid with the work requirements, and that's going to bleed people from the system and getting rid of these enhanced tax credits, people are going to be uninsured. | ||
| And so they will be uninsured showing up into our hospitals sicker, you know, a preventative intervention that could have kept them healthy or, you know, antibiotics that could have treated an infection before it became sepsis. | ||
| Those things are not going to happen anymore. | ||
| And we all are going to pay more. | ||
| It's a penny saved, a pound foolish. | ||
| It really does not make any sense for us to cut people from our health care roles. | ||
| We fixed this 15 years ago, and now we're going to go back and do it all again. | ||
| Want to also get your reaction to the National Guard sent to Portland or the president talking about doing that. | ||
| This is Wall Street Journal headline: Portland vis to make case that troops aren't needed. | ||
| Congresswoman? | ||
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Yeah, troops are not needed. | |
| They certainly are not wanted. | ||
| We have everything under control here. | ||
| The governor has been very clear with the president, our mayor, our police force has been very clear. | ||
| There is nothing on fire in Portland. | ||
| I think what we have is a peaceful, united community. | ||
| And like every city, we could use federal investments. | ||
| We could use housing. | ||
| We could use health care. | ||
| We could use treatment for substance use disorder. | ||
| But what we don't need are troops. | ||
| It is going to escalate tensions and scare people at a time where we are rebounding. | ||
| We are a joyful, very proud community, and we want to keep our community safe. | ||
| And troops are not going to make us safer. | ||
| We'll go to Matt, who's in Falls Church, Virginia. | ||
| Democratic caller. | ||
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So I would just say that, and I just want to respond quickly to that previous caller and just say immigrants are welcome in our society. | |
| And I abhor when people are singling out groups of people, like just saying Mexicans, when they don't even know the status of these people. | ||
| They just look at Hispanic people and go, illegal immigrants in this country. | ||
| I feel like Donald Trump has really increased the amount of racism towards immigrant groups in our society. | ||
| And I hear this stuff, and it's escalated, and it's just bad. | ||
| Now, getting to the shutdown, please continue the shutdown. | ||
| I live in Northern Virginia. | ||
| It's bad for our local economy. | ||
| It is probably bad for our workers. | ||
| But we need this to happen because Donald Trump is going to continue attacking the federal workforce. | ||
| He's going to continue to attack health care. | ||
| If we don't stop and say, what do we get out of continuing to do this? | ||
| It's just going to keep happening. | ||
| And I hope the Democrats continue having a spine against the Republican egresses against federal democracy. | ||
| We have a say. | ||
| We are part of this country. | ||
| You don't get to just steamroll us in our current system. | ||
| Okay, Congresswoman. | ||
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Yeah, I mean, that is also something that I am very much hearing in Portland. | |
| And I feel strongly that the caller is right, that we need to stand up against the authoritarian actions that this president is taking, whether it's sending troops into my home or it's cutting federal workforce workers without any reason and certainly without the process that is supposed to be in place to protect them in their places of work, many of which have been there for decades. | ||
| What this president is doing is dangerous, and this shutdown is absolutely necessary to help the American people understand that their health care is at stake, that their affordability of their lives is worse. | ||
| It is the great betrayal that he ran to say he was going to cut costs for people while people are going to see their premiums go up 75 to 200 percent. | ||
| It is egregious, the disingenuity of this president. | ||
| And we need to hold the line on this. | ||
| We cannot let him cut health care for 20 million Americans and make it much less affordable for everyone else. | ||
| The president on Truth Social around 8 a.m. this morning posting, I have a meeting today with Russ Vogt, he of Project 2025 fame, to determine which of the many Democrat agencies, most of which are political scam, he recommends to be cut and whether or not those cuts will be temporary or permanent. | ||
| I can't believe the radical left Democrats gave me this unprecedented opportunity. | ||
| They are not stupid people, so maybe this is their way of wanting to quietly and quickly make America great again. | ||
| What do you say to the president, Congresswoman? | ||
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It's disgusting. | |
| It's a complete lie. | ||
| He is trying to scare and divide us. | ||
| It is time for American people to wake up to what our president is doing. | ||
| He is trying to consolidate power in the executive branch and take over. | ||
| The congressional legislative branch is separate and equal, and they are trying to take our power away. | ||
| And frankly, my Republican colleagues are handing it over. | ||
| This is our opportunity to reset and show the people what is actually happening. | ||
| And that is 100% a threat. | ||
| And do we really want someone leading us who is going to threaten and intimidate his people? | ||
| This is un-American. | ||
| We have to hold the line here. | ||
| We'll go to Eric, who's in New York, Republican. | ||
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Hi, good morning. | |
| Thank you for having my call. | ||
| Hi, Madam Representative. | ||
| My name is Eric. | ||
| I used to live in your congressional district back when Earl Blumenauer was there. | ||
| And then I moved to New Jersey in Frank Pallone's district. | ||
| And he's the ranking member of the House Subcommittee on Health, which I know that you're on. | ||
| My question is about a threat to health care in Portland, Oregon that exists today under the Trump administration under the Controlled Substances Act. | ||
| Oregon legalized psilocybin services centers. | ||
| Those are magic mushrooms, psychedelic mushrooms. | ||
| As you know, they are still under threat of federal authorities coming in and arresting all of those people going there for help, all of those people working there. | ||
| I've been asking this question of the Democrats that represent my congressional districts of where I've been living. | ||
| If you're pro-choice on reproductive freedoms, you believe that heterosexual couples who don't want to have, you know, your body, your choice, and I think cloned this in 2022. | ||
| He totally evaded. | ||
| He told me Orbalum and I was never asked him about amending the Controlled Substances Act for Suicide and Services Centers. | ||
| So my question is, if you're pro-choice and you are for all of the mental health care and you're on the Veterans Affairs Committee as well, how many more months do we have to wait for you to amend the Controlled Substances Act under Donald Trump with RFK Jr. as the Eric? | ||
| We'll get a response. | ||
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Congressman. | |
| Eric, no, thank you, Eric, for your call. | ||
| And psilocybin use in Oregon has been legalized in very controlled situations with practitioners. | ||
| And we are using this opportunity as a pilot. | ||
| We need to see if it really works. | ||
| We have reason to believe that it does. | ||
| And veterans in particular have really benefited from this. | ||
| If it is working, it will make it easier to amend the controlled substances provisions right now. | ||
| But that's not where we're at. | ||
| And I just want to be really clear. | ||
| What we are fighting for is for everyone to have access to health care. | ||
| And regardless of what that health care is, that should be between a physician and the patient. | ||
| We need to protect it. | ||
| But controlled substances and whether or not psilocybin should be amended is still, in my mind, up for further investigation. | ||
| And it is being actively investigated. | ||
| And I think it's promising. | ||
| But I do not believe that untested, unproven interventions should be broadly available. | ||
| I think Oregon made a decision that it was sufficiently compelling. | ||
| I agree with that choice, but I think federal law is going to take a higher level of scrutiny. | ||
| And so at this point, what I want is for everyone to have access to health care. | ||
| And that is why I'm holding the line with this budget shutdown. | ||
| Joe and Carlton, Kentucky, Democratic Color. | ||
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Okay. | |
| Good morning. | ||
| This is Joe. | ||
| Can you all hear me? | ||
| Yes, we can, Joe. | ||
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Okay. | |
| The three questions I have or comments I was going to make, I would like to know: has anybody looked at the Constitution anymore? | ||
| Or has the Constitution turned into a white erase board? | ||
| What's your point, Joe? | ||
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My point is everything about our country is in the Constitution. | |
| The framers that developed this didn't get to said overnight. | ||
| All right, and Joe, tie that back to the government shutdown. | ||
| What are you referencing? | ||
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Ma'am. | |
| What are you specifically pointing to? | ||
| What action is being taken that you want to reference the Constitution? | ||
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Well, everything we have to do every day, we're getting tied up in the legal matters, and everybody's wanting to take the Constitution to a different area. | |
| I don't understand. | ||
| And the thing with the Army, the regular military, we're not even following the laws of the Constitution. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Congresswoman? | ||
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Yeah, no, he's right. | |
| The Passe Comitadas Act said that the federal troops should not be used against its own citizens. | ||
| That is being violated in areas where Donald Trump is against the governor's wishes sending federal troops in. | ||
| It also, he's invoking Title 10, or Pete Hugseth is invoking Title 10, which says there has to be an invasion, a rebellion, or some catastrophic inability to enforce federal law for federal troops to be used against a governor's wishes. | ||
| So that is the title theoretically that's being used. | ||
| But let me just be clear: there's no invasion, there's no rebellion, and our local police forces are able to enforce the laws just fine here. | ||
| So it is in violation of the Constitution. | ||
| Any action to bring troops into my city, my home, I agree with the caller. | ||
| Ruthie is next in North Carolina, Independent. | ||
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Good morning. | |
| Thank you for taking my call. | ||
| I'm just concerned with the Democrats are saying this shutdown has got to do with the medical for everybody, and the Republicans are saying that the shutdown is due to medical for undocumented immigrants. | ||
| But they're deporting all the immigrants. | ||
| So if you're deporting all the immigrants, why aren't they working with the Democrats to solve this issue and just get it done? | ||
| I mean, they're contradicting themselves and it makes no sense to me. | ||
| Congresswoman. | ||
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I couldn't agree with you more. | |
| It makes no sense. | ||
| I think it's divisive. | ||
| It's cruel. | ||
| It is all in Project 2025. | ||
| It is a plan for consolidating power under an authoritarian. | ||
| I absolutely agree that it makes no sense. | ||
| And our economy is going to be hurt. | ||
| People are going to be hurt across this country, not just immigrants. | ||
| It's going to have a huge negative impact on each and every one of us. | ||
| In St. Louis, Missouri, Oliver is watching there on our line for Democrats. | ||
| Morning to you. | ||
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Good morning. | |
| I'm just, I just had a couple things. | ||
| I mean, first, the responsibility of the governing party that's in power is supposed to keep the government funded. | ||
| Right now, that's Republicans. | ||
| End of. | ||
| That's the bottom line. | ||
| They're supposed to keep the government funded by working with Democrats. | ||
| They refuse to do so. | ||
| At this point, I don't see any incentive for Democrats to come to the table. | ||
| I mean, if you're not going to, if you're not going to negotiate, we're not going to talk to you. | ||
| Second, the Party of States Rights of separate, you know, to be owning states' rights, which is allegedly the Republicans, seem to have no problem violating that principle by having the federal government come into everyday communities to impose a rule of law. | ||
| So I just, I don't really, I guess my question to the representative is what can governors do instead of placating Donald Trump? | ||
| What are they able to do to say no to him so that way they don't, they're not in fear of losing federal funds? | ||
| All right, Oliver. | ||
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No, thank you, Oliver. | |
| Number one, totally agree. | ||
| Republicans are in control of the House, Senate, and the White House. | ||
| They absolutely own whatever is happening here. | ||
| They did not negotiate. | ||
| They did not plan ahead and make sure that we had the votes to get this budget passed. | ||
| Secondly, states' rights, ironically, have been something that the conservative arms of our political parties have really protected. | ||
| And yet here we are with a president who's undermining states' rights. | ||
| And again, I think it is an authoritarian play that he wants to undermine their ability to push back. | ||
| My governor, our attorney general, is doing everything they can with their executive power as well as their litigation power. | ||
| We are suing the federal government for violation of Title 10. | ||
| That hearing is tomorrow. | ||
| I believe we are seeing this in California and in Chicago, Illinois as well. | ||
| We have to push back. | ||
| This is anti-American for one person to be able to override the will not only of the states, but the people of those cities in those states. | ||
| We are in very dangerous territory here, and I am grateful for the leadership of our executive branch and attorney general here. | ||
| And I agree with the caller that Republicans own this. | ||
| They've got to make this change. | ||
| We'll go to Simon in Murrow, Georgia, Republican. | ||
| You are talking with Congresswoman Maxine Dexter, Democrat of Oregon. | ||
| Go ahead. | ||
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You saying Simeon, correct? | |
| Yes, go ahead. | ||
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How are you doing, Congresswoman? | |
| It's Simeon Nunnane, candidate for Congress in the 13th district. | ||
| Congresswoman, my mother died of breast cancer in my face. | ||
| To say that this party here does not care about women in health care is very, it's very insulting. | ||
| The thing is this, you have asked for $1.5 trillion to be injected into the nation's economy. | ||
| Currently, the nation's inflation is at 2.9%. | ||
| So the question is, for 343 million citizens, how do you expect the citizens to keep up with inflation rate if we put in $1.5 trillion into the nation's economy? | ||
| Everything that you're asking for, eventually the citizens would not be able to afford. | ||
| Okay, caller, we'll get a response. | ||
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Yeah, so one, we are not injecting this. | |
| This is current services. | ||
| We are just asking those to not be gotten rid of or ended. | ||
| The premium tax credits are current law, but those end imminently. | ||
| So if we don't do something, we are actually dramatically higher than that 2.9% inflation that people across this country are feeling. | ||
| It's 200% inflation for some families of four who are going to not be able to afford their premiums, their health care premiums. | ||
| And for some families, their premiums are higher than their rent or their house payments. | ||
| So I absolutely agree with the premise that people can't afford this, but I am arguing with or taking issue with Democrats actually adding to the deficit. | ||
| I will also say that the billionaire tax credits that are in here that these Medicaid cuts and ACA premium tax credit cuts are funding, that adds $3.5 trillion to the deficit. | ||
| That is absolutely egregious. | ||
| It's disgusting that we are placating and playing to billionaires across this country while we let women like your poor mother, I'm so sorry, sir, die. | ||
| And we need to take care of everyone. | ||
| I'm a mother. | ||
| I'm a doctor. | ||
| I absolutely want to take care of every person and they all deserve to have health care. | ||
| Congresswoman Maxine Dexter, Democrat of Oregon, thank you for joining us this morning and talking to our viewers. | ||
| We always appreciate that. | ||
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Thank you so much for having me, Greta. | |
| Take care. | ||
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