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| Bridging the divide in American politics. | ||
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Ceasefire premieres October 10th. | |
| Democracy. | ||
| It isn't just an idea. | ||
| It's a process. | ||
| A process shaped by leaders elected to the highest offices and entrusted to a select few with guarding its basic principles. | ||
| It's where debates unfold, decisions are made, and the nation's course is charted. | ||
| Democracy in real time. | ||
| This is your government at work. | ||
| This is C-SPAN, giving you your democracy unfiltered. | ||
| From the newspapers this morning, the grand jury charging Mr. Comey with two criminal counts, making a false statement to Congress and obstructing a congressional proceeding. | ||
| This is from CBS and it broke yesterday. | ||
| Let's go to the hearing that they reference in these indictments. | ||
| It was back in September of 2020, and it was questioning with Republican Senator Ted Cruz to then former FBI Director James Comey. | ||
| Take a listen. | ||
| On May 3rd, 2017, in this committee, Chairman Grassley asked you point blank, quote, have you ever been an anonymous source in news reports about matters relating to the Trump investigation or the Clinton investigation? | ||
| You responded under oath, quote, never. | ||
| He then asked you, quote, have you ever authorized someone else at the FBI to be an anonymous source in news reports about the Trump investigation or the Clinton administration? | ||
| You responded again under oath, no. | ||
| Now, as you know, Mr. McCabe, who works for you, has publicly and repeatedly stated that he leaked information to the Wall Street Journal and that you were directly aware of it and that you directly authorized it. | ||
| Now, what Mr. Kitten McCabe is saying and what you testified to this committee cannot both be true. | ||
| One or the other is false. | ||
| Who's telling the truth? | ||
| I can only speak to my testimony. | ||
| I stand by the testimony you summarized that I gave in May of 2017. | ||
| So your testimony is you've never authorized anyone to leak. | ||
| And Mr. McCabe, if he says contrary, is not telling the truth. | ||
| Is that correct? | ||
| Again, I'm not going to characterize Andy's testimony, but mine is the same today. | ||
| All right, I'm going to make a final point because my time has expired. | ||
| This investigation of the president was corrupt. | ||
| The FBI and the Department of Justice were politicized and weaponized. | ||
| And in my opinion, there are only two possibilities that you were deliberately corrupt or woefully incompetent. | ||
| And I don't believe you were incompetent. | ||
| Senator Ted Cruz's line of questioning of them, former FBI director, in September of 2020. | ||
| And by the way, we've been showing you that hearing in its entirety since these indictments came down yesterday. | ||
| If you missed it, you can go to our website, c-span.org, to watch them there. | ||
| The indictments follow a social media post by President Trump on Saturday where he stated this, Pam, that's to his Attorney General Pam Bondi, I have reviewed over 30 statements and posts saying that essentially, same old story as last time, all talk, no action. | ||
| Nothing is being done. | ||
| What about Comey, Adam Shifty Schiff, Letitia? | ||
| They're all guilty as hell, but nothing is going to be done. | ||
| Then we almost put in a Democrat-supported U.S. attorney in Virginia with a really bad Republican past, a woke rhino who is never going to do his job. | ||
| That's why two of the worst Dem senators pushed him so hard. | ||
| He even lied to the media and said he quit and that he had no case. | ||
| I fired him, and there is a great case. | ||
| And many lawyers and legal pundits say so. | ||
| Lindsey Halligan is a really good lawyer and likes and likes you a lot, the president wrote. | ||
| We can't delay any longer. | ||
| It's killing our reputation and credibility. | ||
| They impeached me twice and indicted me five times over nothing. | ||
| Justice must be served now. | ||
| That is what President Trump wrote on Saturday to his Attorney General, Pam Bondi. | ||
| And as he noted there, he had fired the Virginia Attorney General and replaced the Attorney General. | ||
| That attorney general went to the courts to bring these indictments to a grand jury, to bring these indictments against the former FBI director. | ||
| Now, here's what President Trump had to say at the White House yesterday before these indictments came down. | ||
| I can't tell you what's going to happen because I don't know. | ||
| You have very professional people headed up by the Attorney General, Todd, Todd Blanche, and Lindsey Halligan, who's very smart, good lawyer, very good lawyer. | ||
| They're going to make a determination. | ||
| I'm not making that determination. | ||
| I think I'd be allowed to get involved if it wants, but I don't really choose to do so. | ||
| I can only say that Comey's a bad person. | ||
| He's a sick person. | ||
| I think he's a sick guy, actually. | ||
| He did terrible things at the FBI. | ||
| But I don't know. | ||
| I have no idea what's going to happen. | ||
| The president of the Oval Office yesterday, Mr. Comey also posted a video yesterday claiming his innocence after these indictments came down. | ||
| Here's what he had to say: My family and I have known for years that there are costs to standing up to Donald Trump, but we couldn't imagine ourselves living any other way. | ||
| We will not live on our knees, and you shouldn't either. | ||
| Somebody that I love dearly recently said that fear is the tool of a tyrant, and she's right. | ||
| But I'm not afraid, and I hope you're not either. | ||
| I hope instead you are engaged, you are paying attention, and you will vote like your beloved country depends upon it, which it does. | ||
| My heart is broken for the Department of Justice, but I have great confidence in the federal judicial system, and I'm innocent. | ||
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So let's have a trial and keep the faith. | |
| Let's have a trial, Mr. Comey says. | ||
| Let's turn to all of you now. | ||
| Linda, in Mississippi Democratic Caller, Linda, what do you make of this news this morning? | ||
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I think it's sad. | |
| And I'm praying for this country because if Trump is skinny so thin, he should not have stepped in the political ring. | ||
| If you're talking about lying to Congress, Pam Bundy lied to the Congress, Kash Patel, Finnot Kevin. | ||
| They all lied. | ||
| His whole cabinet lied to the Congress. | ||
| And when was that, Linda? | ||
| Where would you point to? | ||
| What hearing? | ||
| What testimony? | ||
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Doing their confirmation. | |
| They lied because Pam Bundy, they're doing exactly what they accused someone else of doing, using the politicizing the federal government. | ||
| The Justice Department, using it for a political weapon. | ||
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That's what they're doing. | |
| And they're doing it in the open. | ||
| They're not even hiding. | ||
| They're accusing someone else of doing it, but they're flat foot doing it. | ||
| And this country, if they can do it to, I don't, you know, if they can do it to him, they can do it to you. | ||
| Pick up your child, pick up anybody off the street. | ||
| They don't have to have no proof. | ||
| If Trump believes that he's been offended with his big band baby Seth, if he feels like he's been offended, he could just tell them, go pick him up, charge him with anything. | ||
| No proof or nothing. | ||
| All right, Linda. | ||
| Doug in Ohio, independent. | ||
| Doug, what do you say? | ||
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Well, first, let me say the party of law and order, the Republicans say that in party law and order. | |
| Law and order in my sweet battles. | ||
| They ain't the party of law and order at all. | ||
| Second, Trump's the biggest baby I ever heard of in my life. | ||
| That's why I left the party because of him in Charlottesville. | ||
| And, you know, I think that this is just a witch hunt, a witch hunt, a witch hunt for James Comey because Donald Trump's such a coward, and he's trying to cover up Epstein with any way he can, any way he can do it. | ||
| And it's disgusting because just open the Epstein files, let Comey go because he did his job and he supports the democracy, United States of America, and so do I. | ||
| And we got 250 years next year. | ||
| It'll be a beautiful country if we don't let Trump take over with his octorial powers that he wants so much. | ||
| He is not an authoritarian. | ||
| Doug, who is an independent, says he left the party because of President Trump. | ||
| Patrick, a Republican in Pennsylvania. | ||
| Patrick, what do you make of these indictments? | ||
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I think that they're overdue. | |
| I think the weaponization of the government is front and center in the Democratic Party. | ||
| I think they have literally compromised our Constitution, the Bill of Rights. | ||
| And here's the proof. | ||
| So in 2016, I was traveling to Florida, and I picked up a newspaper in order to read something. | ||
| And a line jumped out at me, and it said the United States government will require all social media platforms to control and mitigate content. | ||
| I literally, it was like the oxygen was sucked out of the plane. | ||
| I couldn't believe what I was reading. | ||
| And this was all coordinated with the implementation of the Trump presidency. | ||
| And then what do we see? | ||
| We saw millions of people have their Facebook accounts eliminated. | ||
| Google eliminated millions of people's accounts, whether it's YouTube or whatever. | ||
| And so fast forward to where we are now, we're seeing a president. | ||
| And I was a Democrat for over 30 years. | ||
| So I switched in 2020. | ||
| And I'm advising everyone, vote Republican. | ||
| This is so insidious, what we're witnessing. | ||
| Free speech is not being destroyed by Republicans. | ||
| That's absurd. | ||
| It is the Democratic establishment along with big tech that is fundamentally destroyed and is now utilizing artificial intelligence. | ||
| So, Patrick, tie this back to James Comey. | ||
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James Comey is, they're so guilty, it's almost incomprehensible. | |
| They weaponized the federal judiciary. | ||
| They weaponized intelligence. | ||
| They weaponized every mechanism to attack people who had alternative political views. | ||
| You know, there's a reason why Google's admitting what they're doing now. | ||
| This isn't some conspiratorial nonsense. | ||
| What we're witnessing is the retaking of our Constitution and Bill of Rights. | ||
| All right, Patrick, a Republican in Pennsylvania. | ||
| The indictment against the former FBI director from the national newspapers this morning. | ||
| Here are some details. | ||
| Two indictments approved by Virginia grand jury. | ||
| The statue of limitations on this case was due to run out next week on Tuesday. | ||
| That is why the president moved quickly to fire the Attorney General and put in place someone that would bring forth this case. | ||
| Comey is slated to surrender to authorities today. | ||
| The newspapers also report these details about the case that the arraignment was scheduled, is scheduled for October 9th before U.S. District Judge Michael Nakmanoff. | ||
| Now, he's an Biden appointee. | ||
| And if convicted, Comey faces up to five years in prison. | ||
| Let's go back to Alan in Brooklyn. | ||
| Democratic caller, Alan, your turn. | ||
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Good morning. | |
| Thank you again. | ||
| The absurdity of this is impossible to describe. | ||
| Here's a president who, in his announcement of what the Justice Department is about to do, tries to make it sound as if it's an independent decision of professionals at the Justice Department. | ||
| Right after he was telling them, I hate these people. | ||
| You must find some ground to indict them, not even having facts to indicate there's a basis for indicting them. | ||
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So now to claim this very thin indictment against Comey is claiming something very similar, that something that he said his aide might have been advised to state on his behalf, even if it was true, he would be indicted for possibly recommending to the aide that he say these things that are true. | |
| And Trump has been doing the very same thing in public, saying, oh, it's not me. | ||
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It's the people I've hired who are making these decisions right after he's announced I want them to make these decisions. | |
| The absurdity is compounded by the fact of the immunity that the Supreme Court created in July of 24. | ||
| Mr. Trump recently accepted $2 billion in gifts in exchange for liberalizing the controls on certain kinds of high-powered computer trips to Saudi Arabia and China. | ||
| That's a personal gift to his family. | ||
| That's not going to the federal treasury. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Alan, we're going to stick to what's happening here this morning, following up on the news that broke yesterday in a Virginia grand jury indicting the former FBI director on two charges. | ||
| Now, this is something the president has called for in his first administration as well. | ||
| The Associated Press notes this this morning. | ||
| Prosecutors in the first Trump Justice Department declined to prosecute Comey following an Inspector General review into his handling of memos documenting his conversations with Trump in the weeks before he was fired. | ||
| He also was not charged by a special counsel, John Durham, who scrutinized the FBI's handling of the Trump-Russia investigation. | ||
| Earlier this year, the department fired Comey's daughter, Maureen Comey, from her job as a prosecutor in the Southern District of New York. | ||
| She has since sued, saying the termination was carried out with any explanation and was done for political reasons. | ||
| Before these indictments officially came down yesterday, California Democrat Judiciary Committee member Eric Swalwell had this to say, speaking about how Democrats might respond to any indictments. | ||
| This was on CNN. | ||
| By the way, the president's saying he has no control here. | ||
| He has all of the control here. | ||
| He's the one who has been tweeting to the Attorney General that Comey needs to be indicted. | ||
| He's the one that fired the U.S. Attorney who would not indict Comey. | ||
| And so this is a, you know, very, very corrupt, corrosive act that the president is taking. | ||
| And what I would just say to any prosecutor at the Department of Justice is it's not going away. | ||
| As a member of the Judiciary Committee, I promise you when Democrats are in the majority, we are going to look at all of this and there will be accountability and bar licenses will be at stake in your local jurisdiction if you are corruptly indicting people where you cannot prove the case beyond a reasonable doubt. | ||
| Congressman Swalwell on CNN telling the reporter there that Democrats, when they're in charge, they'll look into this prosecution of the former FBI director. | ||
| We're getting your take on this debate this morning. | ||
| David in Maryland, Democratic caller. | ||
| Hi, David. | ||
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Hello, how are you? | |
| Thank you for having me on. | ||
| I think that, you know, Comey, you know, his record speaks for itself. | ||
| He was a very honorable man who served this country. | ||
| He did everything by the book. | ||
| I think he was the prime example of someone you want to direct the FBI. | ||
| Now currently we have Kash Patel, who I think is a complete idiot. | ||
| He's sick. | ||
| He's a sick man in that position and unqualified. | ||
| And for Trump to go after Comey at this point is very obvious the trail that led up to this and his films about Comey. | ||
| And the only mistake Comey ever made was getting involved with Trump. | ||
| Well, David, how do you respond to this? | ||
| This is the Associated Press back in 2019. | ||
| According to Inspector General Watchdog, Comey violated FBI policies and handling of memos. | ||
| And this is what the Inspector General found. | ||
| Violated FBI policies in his handling of memos documenting private conversations with President Trump. | ||
| The watchdog office said Comey broke bureau rules by giving one memo containing unclassified information to a friend with instructions to share the content with a reporter. | ||
| Comey also failed to return his memos to the FBI after he was dismissed in May of 2017, retaining copies of some of them in a safe at home and shared them with his personal lawyers without permission from the FBI. | ||
| Goes on to say the report is the second in as many years to criticize Comey's actions as FBI director, following a separate Inspector General rebuke for decisions made during the investigation into Hillary Clinton's use of a private email server. | ||
| It is one of multiple Inspector General investigations undertaken in the last three years into the decisions and actions of Comey and other senior FBI leaders. | ||
| Now, David, you said Comey didn't make any mistakes. | ||
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Say something? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Well, what I like to say is that's cost of doing business. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And when Trump had all those documents in his house, Florida, Mar-a-Lago home, what about that? | ||
| Did that ever get followed up on? | ||
| What about all the things that he has done making his own Bitcoin about going after his political enemies? | ||
| What about his selling cards from Elon Musk in the White House lawn? | ||
| If any other president, especially Obama, if he did that, what will we be hearing from the Republicans? | ||
| All right. | ||
| Also from that Associated Press reporting in 2019, the Inspector General report denied the president and his supporters who have repeatedly accused Comey of leaking classified information total vindication. | ||
| It found that none of the information shared by him or his attorneys with anyone in the media was classified. | ||
| The Justice Department declined to prosecute Comey back in 2019 during President Trump's first term. | ||
| We'll go to Rudy in Ohio, Republican. | ||
| Hi, Rudy. | ||
| Good morning to you. | ||
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Morning. | |
| Yep. | ||
| There is a God. | ||
| This is a great day for America. | ||
| James Comey should have been gone a long time ago. | ||
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Donald Trump could have gone after Hillary Clinton when he won the first time, and he tried to bury the hatches so the country could get better. | |
| And what'd they do? | ||
| Hillary goes out and gets the steel dossier, whatever. | ||
| And, you know, they went after Trump, lied, did everything, had every agency in the federal government go after him. | ||
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People tried to shoot him. | |
| Jane Comey's always been a crook. | ||
| And the people that ought to be looking out over their shoulder now, old Adam Schiff and these other people, Swalwell, the one you just had on a while ago, those people are crooks too. | ||
| You know, Swalwell was a Chinese spy, Schiff. | ||
| Everybody knew he lied every time he opened his mouth. | ||
| Still does. | ||
| You know, so going after Comey is just one person. | ||
| The whole bunch that went after Trump should be thrown in prison and rot. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Okay, that's Rudy there, an Ohio Republican, from the Washington Times reporting. | ||
| Mr. Trump last week forced out Eric Siebert, the acting U.S. Attorney. | ||
| Apologies, I had been saying Attorney General, the acting U.S. Attorney for the Eastern District of Virginia after he failed to seek an indictment of Mr. Comey. | ||
| He replaced Mr. Siebert with White House aide Lindsay Halligan, and she moved quickly to present a case to the grand jury to bear a five-year, to beat a five-year deadline on pursuing a criminal indictment on false statement charges. | ||
| That's from the Washington Times reporting, and there is Lindsey Halligan on your screen. | ||
| The charges stem from Mr. Comey's September 30th, 2020 congressional testimony, in which he told lawmakers under oath that he had not leaked information about the Russia collusion probe to members of the media and knew nothing about leaks. | ||
| Now, his testimony contrasted that of his former deputy, Andrew McCabe, who told lawmakers that he informed Mr. Comey of a leak to reporters and that Mr. Comey approved, effectively authorizing it after the fact. | ||
| The grand jury that indicted Mr. Comey also heard testimony from one of his friends, Columbia University professor Daniel Richmond. | ||
| And you'll recall Mr. Comey gave Mr. Richmond classified information about the FBI's Russia collusion probe to pass along to the New York Times, which published stories pushing the narrative that Mr. Trump and the Russians worked together to help him win the 2016 election. | ||
| That is from the Washington Times reporting this morning. | ||
| Josephine in Livingston, New Jersey, and Independent, Josephine, we'll hear from you. | ||
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Good morning. | |
| You know, when we appointed people to the position of the FBI to make it non-political, we gave them an appointment for 10 years. | ||
| Okay, forget about 10 years. | ||
| The idea that Comey, who was a civil servant for over 30 years, that doesn't matter. | ||
| Let's not keep pointing at the wrong area. | ||
| Bondi, remember, was in the state of Florida and told them not to prosecute the president regarding the material that he kept in his residence. | ||
| I mean, it all ties in. | ||
| Whatever he says, jump. | ||
| They say, how high? | ||
| Never do I remember such corruption in my life. | ||
| Oh, yes, Nixon. | ||
| He tried the same thing. | ||
| But that's when the Republicans truly were Republicans. | ||
| They didn't look at Republican or Democrat. | ||
| When they saw something wrong, they honored the Constitution. | ||
| The Republicans today don't think of the Constitution. | ||
| They're all in the idea of power. | ||
| Sadly, you're taking your eye off Epstein. | ||
| On C-SPAN, all they have to do is look at C-SPAN. | ||
| There's a tape there right now with Trump dancing with three teenage girls with Epstein at his birthday party, Maxwell, I mean, I mean, and what was he doing right there on the tape? | ||
| Greb Lam, you know what. | ||
| All right, Josephine. | ||
| Josephine thinks this is all a distraction from the Epstein files. | ||
| The Attorney General posted on X yesterday this statement: No one is above the law. | ||
| Today's indictment reflects this Department of Justice's commitment to holding those who abuse positions of power accountable for misleading the American people. | ||
| We will follow the facts in this case. | ||
| And the president's FBI director, Kash Patel, put this out yesterday. | ||
| Today, your FBI took another step in its promise of full accountability. | ||
| For far too long, previous corrupt leadership and their enablers weaponized federal law enforcement, damaging once-proud institutions and severely eroding public trust. | ||
| Every day, we continue the fight to earn that trust back. | ||
| And under my leadership, this FBI will confront the problem head on. | ||
| Nowhere was this politicization of law enforcement more blatant than during the Russia Gate hoax. | ||
| A disgraceful chapter in history we continue to investigate and expose. | ||
| And everyone, especially those in positions of power, will be held to account no matter their perch. | ||
| No one is above the law. | ||
| We'll go to Caroline and Atlanta, Democratic caller. | ||
| Caroline, what is your take on this indictment news? | ||
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My take is: God bless America, first of all. | |
| My take is go to trial, put it on the air, let us see, because there's too much information for me to digest. | ||
| I can't talk intelligently about it. | ||
| So I'm just saying, go to trial and let's see what happens because I do believe that they can come to some kind of conclusion as to who is telling the truth. | ||
| And talking about above the law, we got somebody that's above the law. | ||
| And that's that during president you all have. | ||
| All right, Caroline. | ||
| From the Washington Post, to prove their case, prosecutors will have to convince a jury that Comey not only made false statements to Congress, but that he knowingly did so, and that any untruths were material to the focus of the Senate proceedings. | ||
| Some evidence is likely to work in Comey's favor. | ||
| For instance, Cruz said at the 2020 hearing that the FBI's then Deputy Director Andrew McCabe testified that Comey authorized the disclosure of the Clinton email investigation to a news publication. | ||
| But the Justice Department's inspector general concluded in a 2018 report that it was McCabe who authorized the leak and who lacked candor when discussing the matter with Comey and investigators looking into the disclosure. | ||
| Comey's attorneys are also likely to point to the fact that before Thursday's indictment, the case had been rejected by Eric Siebert, the Trump-appointed interim U.S. attorney who had been overseeing the investigation. | ||
| He concluded there was insufficient evidence to move forward with a prosecution. | ||
| Though that from the Washington Post reporting this morning, Willie in Jackson, Mississippi, an independent. | ||
| Willie, welcome to the conversation. | ||
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Yes, this is a sad day in America. | |
| That's all I can say. | ||
| This president is unbelievable. | ||
| To be honest with you, it's all a divergent from the Epstein case. | ||
| They'll do anything to get a divergence from the Epstein case. | ||
| And this time in office, he has got his self, he has got him some good cronies, some good cronies around him. | ||
| They ain't qualified for nothing, especially Kennedy, man. | ||
| All right, Dennis in Durrant, Oklahoma, Democratic caller. | ||
| Dennis, morning to you. | ||
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Good morning. | |
| Yes, I'm actually glad to kind of see him bring the case. | ||
| That'll give us a rerun of everything that happened during the Russian probe. | ||
| All the people that worked for Trump in his campaign who were indicted, sent to prison, all the lies that Trump told during that whole debacle. | ||
| Yeah, we can replay it all right from the start. | ||
| Well, what about, though, the Mueller investigation not finding any ties between President Trump and Russia? | ||
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Oh, they found plenty of ties. | |
| He just said that he couldn't be indicted. | ||
| He didn't think a sitting president could be indicted. | ||
| There was plenty of ties there. | ||
| If there wasn't any ties, why did Trump start lying from the get-go? | ||
| He started lying about no contacts with the Russians from the get-go. | ||
| And all the people in his campaign, the president of his campaign, the manager of his campaign, directly tied to Russia. | ||
| I mean, it's unbelievable. | ||
| And all the lies that the Republicans have been saying since that investigation, that nothing happened, that he was proven innocent. | ||
| No, he wouldn't. | ||
| Well, Dennis, listen to this. | ||
| This is the Associated Press reporting on the indictments. | ||
| And in the story, it says lingering anger over the Russia investigation. | ||
| Trump has for years railed against both a finding by U.S. intelligence agencies that Russia preferred him to Clinton, a Democrat in the 2016 election, as well as criminal investigation that tried to determine whether his campaign had conspired with Moscow to sway the outcome of that race. | ||
| Prosecutors led by special counsel Robert Mueller did not establish that Trump or his associates criminally colluded with Russia, but they did find that Trump's campaign had welcomed Moscow's assistance. | ||
| The indictment comes against the backdrop of a Trump administration effort to recast the Russia investigation as the outgrowth of an effort under Democratic President Barack Obama to overhype Moscow's interference in the election and to undermine the legitimacy of Trump's victory. | ||
| Dennis, respond to that. | ||
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Well, how can you overhype? | |
| I mean, his campaign manager had direct contact with him. | ||
| He was sharing information with him. | ||
| I mean, the guy actually worked for Russia. | ||
| I mean, and all the ties that his sons, you know, were doing business, meeting with Russians, and all the ties that Trump has had financially with him. | ||
| Dennis, there, Democrat in Oklahoma, we're going to hear from Jim, who is a Republican in Hudson, Florida. | ||
| Hi, Jim. | ||
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Hi, how are you doing? | |
| Thanks for taking my call. | ||
| First of all, I'd like to say that I'm a Trump supporter. | ||
| Right or wrong, he's getting even. | ||
| Okay, I just want to make that statement. | ||
| But there was a statement made in 2016 by two people that worked for Comey. | ||
| One of them was drunk, and I don't remember the girl's name. | ||
| But they said Trump is not going to be president of the United States. | ||
| He's not going to be whatever method it takes for us to get whatever we need to do. | ||
| He's not going to be president of the United States. | ||
| That's all you need to say. | ||
| And that was people that work for Comey. | ||
| Jim in Hudson, Florida. | ||
| We'll go to White, who's an independent in Sandy, Utah. | ||
| Good morning to you. | ||
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Hi, good morning. | |
| You know, you got this justice thing going on. | ||
| You had two Supreme Court justices lied to Congress when they said they weren't going to vote down Roe v. Wade, and they did vote it down. | ||
| So they lied to Congress when they said they wouldn't vote for it. | ||
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And that's your Justice Department. | |
| All right, Kathleen in Chicago, Democratic caller. | ||
| Kathleen, let's turn to you. | ||
| What do you say? | ||
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Okay. | |
| If lying to Congress would cause you to be indicted, Robert Kennedy Jr., the other day, he lied. | ||
| Patel lied. | ||
| Pam Bundy died. | ||
| I don't know if Trump has gone through the Congress, but he's a known liar 34,000 times. | ||
| You know, it's amazing that people think that Trump didn't have some kind of ties with Russia. | ||
| You can see it now. | ||
| Look what he did here a few weeks ago with Russia. | ||
| He gave the man the red carpet. | ||
| Trump got ties with Russia, but you know, you got to watch what you do. | ||
| I guess the Republicans think that they're going to be in for life. | ||
| If lying is a crime, Trump should be in jail right now because that's all they do is lie. | ||
| He's lying about the economy. | ||
| He's lying about, and let me see before you cut me off. | ||
| Didn't people in this office that indicted Comey, a couple of them said, no, we can't indict him because we have no proof he did anything. | ||
| So he kept fishing for somebody that he could find, and she has no knowledge of anything because nobody in his cabinet, including him, got knowledge of what they're doing. | ||
| He had to go back and find somebody to, I think he found her Monday, if I'm not mistaken, to indict this man. | ||
| All right. | ||
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That's wrong. | |
| All right. | ||
| Kathleen, thoughts there in Chicago. | ||
| What out in Mort, Texas? | ||
| Frank is watching there, an independent. | ||
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Morning, Frank. | |
| Yes, ma'am. | ||
| Well, really, the Democrats are kind of late. | ||
| They've already had a trial on this. | ||
| It's called an election. | ||
| And he won it with 77 million votes. | ||
| And that shows you right there. | ||
| And he'd win by even more, according to the poll. | ||
| He'd win by even more now, probably 78, 79, 80 million votes. | ||
| So the trial has already been held. | ||
| Now, Comey might wiggle his way and lie his way out of this. | ||
| But yeah, Comey's guilty. | ||
| He's guilty of sin. | ||
| So, Frank, do you think the president should just let it go? | ||
| Should the Justice Department just let it go, not pursue this then? | ||
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No, no, they need to go after Comey. | |
| I mean, he's guilty. | ||
| He's always been guilty. | ||
| And these Democrats calling in, they just mad because they lost the election. | ||
| And all they want to talk about is race and hate. | ||
| That's all they want to talk about. | ||
| But yeah, Comey is guilty of sin, and so is Letitia James and that other sign, that's Schwarwell or whoever he is. | ||
| They're all a bunch of liars. | ||
| Biden, he was a crook. | ||
| He wasn't nothing but a crook. | ||
| Him and Harris, they both crooks. | ||
| And, you know, he just, you already had it in a trial. | ||
| As we all election, he won it in the landslide. | ||
| The trial is over. | ||
| Now, Comey might wiggle and lie his way out of this line, but the Mueller investigation showed that Trump was telling the truth all the time. | ||
| The Durham investigation backed him up, you know, and the man was, he was framed up by Hillary Clinton and the dossier slang. | ||
| He just framed up. | ||
| He's nothing but a bunch of lying crook. | ||
| All the Democrats want to do is let murdering killers come into this country. | ||
| All right, Frank, we'll leave it there at that point. | ||
| More of your calls coming up here on the news out of Virginia. | ||
| Grand jury in that state indicting the former FBI Director James Comey. | ||
| We'll continue to get your thoughts here in the first hour of the Washington Journal. | ||
| In other news, from the Washington Post, the Pentagon's Defense Secretary, Pete Hegseth, orders a rare, urgent meeting of hundreds of generals and admirals. | ||
| The Pentagon also has summoned military officials from around the world for a gathering in Virginia. | ||
| Even top generals and their staffs don't know the reason for the meeting. | ||
| And then there is also this headline from the Associated Press: the man who fired on the ICE facility this week hated U.S. government and sought to kill federal agents, according to officials who are investigating that case. | ||
| And also from the Washington Post, the president yesterday announcing new tariffs on trucks, furniture, and pharmaceuticals. | ||
| If you missed that announcement, you can find it on our website at c-span.org. | ||
| And then there's also this from CNBC: the president yesterday and the Oval Office approving a TikTok deal through executive order. | ||
| The vice president says the business is valued at $14 billion. | ||
| Listen to the president in the Oval Office yesterday. | ||
| So this is interesting because I had a very good talk with President Xi. | ||
| A lot of respect for him. | ||
| Hopefully his letter respect for me too. | ||
| And we talked about TikTok and other things, but we talked about TikTok and he gave us the go-ahead. | ||
| You know, it's run by American investors and American companies, great ones, great investors. | ||
| The biggest, you don't get bigger, I don't imagine. | ||
| And maybe I'll let JD. | ||
| JD was very much involved and in charge of it. | ||
| And maybe I'll have you say a few words about the deal. | ||
| You would report back, and the points of the deal I think are great for our country. | ||
| So JD, do you want to give it a little talk, please? | ||
| Yes, sir. | ||
| Yeah, so thank you, sir, for your leadership and for your help. | ||
| We really couldn't have done this without the president actually ushering this deal over the finish line. | ||
| There was some resistance on the Chinese side, but the fundamental thing that we wanted to accomplish is that we wanted to keep TikTok operating, but we also wanted to make sure that we protected Americans' data privacy as required by law, both because it's the right thing to do, but also because it's a legal requirement of the law that was passed last year by Congress. | ||
| So we think that we were able to do that. | ||
| Of course, we're going to keep on working at it, but this deal really does mean that Americans can use TikTok, but actually use it with more confidence than they had in the past because their data is going to be secure and it's not going to be used as a propaganda weapon against our fellow citizens. | ||
| We're very excited about it. | ||
| We appreciate the cooperation of everybody involved and it's a big day. | ||
| From the Oval Office yesterday, the president announcing executive order on TikTok and 80% of the company owned by American leadership. | ||
| We're in this morning giving you other news before we continue with our conversation about the indictments against Mr. Comey, the Hill newspaper with this headline this morning, Israel's Netanyahu to address the UN as pressure mounts over the Gaza war. | ||
| Now the prime minister will go before other world leaders as part of the annual United Nations General Assembly. | ||
| And we expect his remarks around 9 a.m. Eastern Time. | ||
| You can tune in to our live coverage on C-SPAN 2 or you can download our free video mobile app, C-SPANNow. | ||
| You can also find it online at c-span.org. | ||
| Mr. Netanyahu's remarks according to CNN this morning will be broadcasted in Gaza this morning. | ||
| CNN speculating that that is his audience when he addresses world leaders today. | ||
| That follows the president yesterday telling reporters that he would not allow the annexation of Palestine. | ||
| The Palestinian leader also addressed the United Nations this week along with, of course, President Trump and other world leaders. | ||
| We brought you coverage of the annual gathering. | ||
| Go to our website, c-span.org. | ||
| You can find our United Nations page there. | ||
| It has videos of all the world leaders that addressed their colleagues in New York this week, as well as past United Nations General Assemblies. | ||
| Stacy in McLean, Virginia, an independent. | ||
| Stacey, we are talking about the indictment of Mr. Comey. | ||
| Your turn. | ||
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Oh, hey, good morning, America. | |
| Thanks for having me, Greta. | ||
| Two things. | ||
| As far as Comey's indictment is concerned, I consider that karma circling back, because if it wasn't for Comey, Trump wouldn't have never gotten office because he sabotaged Hillary Clinton and violated policy, FBI policy, when he said there was an active investigation going on in Hillary Clinton's email. | ||
| And then they took that back, but it was enough damage done to put him in office. | ||
| And if Trump thinks that he betrayed him, if it wasn't for him, you wouldn't even be in office. | ||
| Let's get that straight. | ||
| As far as him indicting him, I say go for it. | ||
| Do it. | ||
| Do it. | ||
| Because Jesus said the wicked will do themselves in. | ||
| I remember Russians, I mean, Republicans taking secret trips to Russia. | ||
| And let's not forget Helsinki. | ||
| Never forget Helsinki. | ||
| If you don't think he had ties to Russia, go watch Helsinki. | ||
| He sided with Russia over our intelligence in front of the world. | ||
| Coward to him. | ||
| He cowered to Russia, to Putin. | ||
| Stacy in McLean, Virginia. | ||
| Oscar's a Republican in Spruce Pine, North Carolina. | ||
| Hi, Oscar. | ||
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Good morning. | |
| Do you hear me? | ||
| Yes, we can. | ||
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Go ahead. | |
| Okay, I just wanted to start with some clichés. | ||
| It seems like the chickens have come home to roost and the cows came home. | ||
| And I'm thinking that it is a very good thing it's happening because poor old President Trump, and I am a Trump fan 100%, has been nothing but tortured for the last, well, during his first term and during the autofin's term. | ||
| He has been spent more time in the courthouse than he has out, and they've made his laugh and his family's laugh miserable. | ||
| And now, to quote one more cliché, it seems like what's good for the goose is good for the gander, and I'm glad to see it happening. | ||
| All right, Oscar. | ||
| Jan in Iowa Democratic caller. | ||
| Jan, what do you think about these indictments? | ||
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I think it's crazy. | |
| Trump needs to take care of our country. | ||
| He doesn't need to be in courts and suing people all the time and all this and that. | ||
| He's just a loudmouthed little boy who keeps going until he gets his own way. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| All right, Jan. | ||
| Listen to what the president had to say in the Oval Office yesterday. | ||
| Talked about other left-wing people his administration could investigate. | ||
| He made these comments yesterday. | ||
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Antifa Soros, what names are we talking about? | |
| Well, Soros is the name certainly that I keep hearing. | ||
| I don't know, but Soros is the name that I hear. | ||
| I hear a lot of different names. | ||
| I hear names of some pretty rich people that are radical left people. | ||
| Maybe I hear about a guy named Reid Hoffman. | ||
| Somebody's a pretty rich guy, I guess. | ||
| And I hear about him. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Maybe it could be him. | ||
| Could be a lot of people. | ||
| We hear the same names, but they're bad. | ||
| And we're going to find out. | ||
| And if they are funding these things, they're going to have some problems because they're agitators and they're anarchists. | ||
| These are anarchists. | ||
| President Trump on the Oval yesterday, talking about other left-wing people his administration could investigate, listened to Democratic Senator and Judiciary Committee member Richard Blumenthal on MSNBC last night reacting to the indictment and accusing the president of singling out opponents. | ||
| Let's be clear about what's happening here. | ||
| The president is singling out someone he just doesn't like. | ||
| And that post that you just showed could create a defense, maybe even grounds for dismissal. | ||
| I spent most of my life in law enforcement. | ||
| I was the U.S. attorney in Connecticut for four and a half years. | ||
| We were very careful about what we said on charges because they could be used against us in a criminal trial. | ||
| And this case is replete with Donald Trump telling the Attorney General to act, to act fast, and creating possible defenses here. | ||
| But let's look at the broader picture. | ||
| I always felt as a prosecutor, the most consequential decisions I made were whether to charge someone. | ||
| People simply don't fully recover from criminal charges, even if they are acquitted, because half the world believes that they were acquitted on some kind of technicality. | ||
| Well, Donald Trump is populating the Department of Justice with lawyers who will do his bidding, pervert the rule of law, and single out people that they may not like, who may have offended them, or maybe adversaries politically, whether it's a small business person or a public official. | ||
| Today it's Comey. | ||
| Tomorrow it could be you. | ||
| Senator Blumenthal on MSNBC last night with his take on these two indictments by a grand jury in Virginia against the former FBI director. | ||
| Connie, we're getting your thoughts on the indictments this morning in Bakersfield, California, and Independent. | ||
| What do you say, Connie? | ||
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I say that both parties are both corrupt. | |
| They all stand up for each other. | ||
| They have no individual ideals. | ||
| One person says, we're going to do this. | ||
| Everybody follows that person. | ||
| No one thought Donald Trump would get reelected. | ||
| So they didn't care. | ||
| They threw everything at him, but he did. | ||
| And Donald Trump stood up and said, I hate my enemies. | ||
| And he meant it. | ||
| And I love your talk, by the way. | ||
| That is so pretty. | ||
| was very careful this morning to see. | ||
| And I just think that. | ||
| Well, Connie, what do you think should happen then with these indictments? | ||
| Should the. | ||
| Should the Justice Department have pursued this case? | ||
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Yes. | |
| And the reason I say so, the reason I think is because they didn't think he would be re-elected. | ||
| So I meant Biden's son got in trouble with China, then the files. | ||
| He had all kinds of files, but he wasn't drugged through the mud. | ||
| And anything that Donald Trump ever did wrong got drugged through the mud. | ||
| And I love the late night shows, by the way, because I enjoy hearing the remarks about Donald Trump. | ||
| But I can see where that would get under somebody's skin. | ||
| All right, Connie. | ||
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All right. | |
| We'll go to John, who's next. | ||
| New York, Democratic College. | ||
| Hi, John. | ||
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Hi, how are you? | |
| Good morning. | ||
| First of all, let's go back to the history of where this whole started. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And basically, you know, there is the Russia hoax and everything, but that's the farce. | ||
| That's the problem. | ||
| If you look back, you know, where it all started, even with his son, Eric Trump, he said, we get our money from Russia. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| You know, there's a lot of still a lot of issues out there about it. | ||
| And I think what this indictment has done is torn the country apart. | ||
| And you look at, you go back, there was a guy named Felix Seder who literally was part of that Russia, and Trump is on videotape on a YouTube video, couldn't even identify this guy. | ||
| So right there, he lied. | ||
| He lies all the time. | ||
| And I think this is a horrific, horrific time for our country. | ||
| We need jobs. | ||
| We need a better economy. | ||
| The rich are getting rich, and the middle class is just getting really to the bottom pits. | ||
| And it's just not the way America should be right now. | ||
| John in New York. | ||
| All right, John in New York with his thoughts. | ||
| The president, moments ago, posting on Truth Social, joining us in the conversation this morning, saying this, whether you like corrupt James Comey or not, and I can't imagine too many people liking him, he lied, it says. | ||
| It is not a complex lie. | ||
| It's a very simple but important one. | ||
| There is no way he can explain his way out of it. | ||
| He is a dirty cop and always has been, but he was just assigned a crooked Joe Biden appointed judge. | ||
| So he's off to a very good start. | ||
| Nevertheless, words are words, and he wasn't hedging or in dispute. | ||
| He was very positive. | ||
| There was no doubt in his mind about what he had said or meant by saying it. | ||
| He left himself zero margin of error on a big and important answer to a question. | ||
| He just got unexpectedly caught. | ||
| James Dirty Cop Comey was a destroyer of lives. | ||
| He knew exactly what he was saying and that it was a very serious and far-reaching lie for which a very big price must be paid. | ||
| Let's go back to that September 30th, 2020 hearing. | ||
| Again, this is Senator Ted Cruz and his questioning of former FBI Director James Comey. | ||
| On May 3rd, 2017, in this committee, Chairman Grassley asked you point blank, quote, have you ever been an anonymous source in news reports about matters relating to the Trump investigation or the Clinton investigation? | ||
| You responded under oath, quote, never. | ||
| He then asked you, quote, have you ever authorized someone else at the FBI to be an anonymous source in news reports about the Trump investigation or the Clinton administration? | ||
| You responded again under oath, no. | ||
| Now, as you know, Mr. McCabe, who works for you, has publicly and repeatedly stated that he leaked information to the Wall Street Journal and that you were directly aware of it and that you directly authorized it. | ||
| Now, what Mr. McCabe is saying and what you testified to this committee cannot both be true. | ||
| One or the other is false. | ||
| Who's telling the truth? | ||
| I can only speak to my testimony. | ||
| I stand by the testimony you summarized that I gave in May of 2017. | ||
| So your testimony is you've never authorized anyone to leak. | ||
| And Mr. McCabe, if he says contrary, is not telling the truth. | ||
| Is that correct? | ||
| Again, I'm not going to characterize Andy's testimony, but mine is the same today. | ||
| All right, I'm going to make a final point because my time has expired. | ||
| This investigation of the president was corrupt. | ||
| The FBI and the Department of Justice were politicized and weaponized. | ||
| And in my opinion, there are only two possibilities that you were deliberately corrupt or woefully incompetent. | ||
| And I don't believe you were incompetent. | ||
| September 2020 hearing, and of course, C-SPAN cameras were there. | ||
| If you missed it, go to our website at c-span.org and you can listen to the entire testimony. | ||
| The Washington Post editorial this morning, Trump gets his Comey indictment. | ||
| They write, during the president's first term, Attorney General William Barr appointed a special counsel, John Durham, to investigate the origins of the Russia probe. | ||
| Two people Durham charged with making false statements to investigators were acquitted at trial. | ||
| Barr and Durham were the A-team. | ||
| Those failed cases demonstrate the difficulty of proving lies in court, especially on politically charged subjects. | ||
| Given Trump's confessions of political motive and his firing of Siebert, the case might be hard to get to trial, much less yield a unanimous conviction. | ||
| From the national newspapers this morning, the Wall Street Journal, New York Times, Washington Post, and Washington Times, here are some details about this indictment. | ||
| Two indictments were approved by this Virginia grand jury, lying to Congress and obstructing congressional proceedings. | ||
| The statue of limitations on this case were due to run out next week on Tuesday, and Comey is slated to surrender to authorities today, according to the newspapers. | ||
| They also report that on October 9th, there will be the arraignment of before U.S. District Judge Michael Nakmanoff. | ||
| Now, this is a Biden appointee judge. | ||
| And if convicted, Comey faces up to five years in prison. | ||
| We're going to go to Pete in Jupiter, Florida, Republican. | ||
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Yes, good morning. | |
| How are you doing? | ||
| Morning. | ||
| Well, you know, is there like the Democrats used to say all the time, nobody is above the law? | ||
| Just their reaction this morning and last night is showing the hypocrisy. | ||
| They put Trump, they changed the statue of limitations in New York State to convict them or try to convict them of all these phony things with their real estate and the lady 20 years ago or whatever. | ||
| They changed the statue of limitations to bring that upon. | ||
| This here is just if there's nothing to worry about, let the trial play out. | ||
| And if he's not guilty, then it's over. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Pete's thoughts there in Florida. | ||
| Thomas in Humble Texas, an independent. | ||
| What do you say, Thomas? | ||
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Oh, man, this is amazing. | |
| I don't know what this has to do with the farmers. | ||
| They're losing their farms and JD Vance buying them up. | ||
| But anyway, if you give anybody enough rope, they're going to hang themselves. | ||
| I can't wait till they find Giuliani to testify about the rest of the game. | ||
| Excuse me, I got to go. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| You got to take care, man. | ||
| All right, Joel, Rochester, New York, Republican. | ||
| Your turn, Joel. | ||
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Hi, how are you? | |
| Thanks for taking my call. | ||
| So I like how the Democrats make this guy look like he's an altar boy. | ||
| Let's not forget what Jamie Colmy, James Colmy, was. | ||
| He ruined Martha Stewart, if you'll remember, just because she says get lost. | ||
| You know, he indicted her. | ||
| And then, how about Michael Flynn? | ||
| What he did to Michael Flynn? | ||
| Okay. | ||
| He's not an altar boy, this guy. | ||
| This guy is dirty. | ||
| He's a dirty cop. | ||
| And you know what? | ||
| I'm glad that he's getting indicted. | ||
| You know, he's got this phony look about him. | ||
| Oh, how about those 8687 that he happened to find on the sand? | ||
| He was walking. | ||
| You know, I mean, what are the chances of anybody finding seashells? | ||
| Okay, the whole thing was a joke. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So I think I'm glad he's getting indicted. | ||
| And I hope, you know, he goes to prison because he ruined a lot of people's lives. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| All right. | ||
| John, Crystal Lake, Illinois, Democratic caller. | ||
| Good morning to you, John. | ||
| Go ahead. | ||
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Good morning. | |
| Yeah, I basically wanted to, because a lot of people on the right get really angry when we say, hey, this is a fascist administration, and then they like to say, well, you don't know what fascism means. | ||
| So the definition of fascism, I just Googled it for everyone's edification, is an authoritarian, ultra-nationalist political ideology that emphasizes a dictatorial leader, the suppression of opposition, and strict societal and economic control. | ||
| So if that sounds at all like what Trump is doing now, he's going after his political enemies. | ||
| He's basically saying all left-wing people are, you know, violent extremists. | ||
| But it's all projection. | ||
| You know, so fascism is here. | ||
| It's here to stay. | ||
| And hopefully it just doesn't send us all off to the gulags. | ||
| Thanks. | ||
| Doug, Newport News, Republican. | ||
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Yeah, I just wish everybody would understand if you break the law, it doesn't make any difference if you're a homeless person on the street or the head of the FBI or candidate for president. | |
| You should be held responsible, especially if you're the head of the FBI. | ||
| I mean, if we can't trust them, who are we going to trust? | ||
| Doug, do you think this case, this case, is as much of a slam dunk as President Trump believes it is in his truth post this morning? | ||
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No case is a slam dunk until it goes in front of the American people who are going to sit on that jury and make a decision. | |
| And once that decision is made, everybody needs to accept it. | ||
| Granted, Hillary Clinton was a fool. | ||
| She had documents that were top sacred documents on an unsecure server. | ||
| But her excuse was, it's the most secure because I have security at my house. | ||
| I mean, this has got to stop somewhere, and we've got to get back to a normal country the way we were. | ||
| If you're guilty, you're found guilty. | ||
| If you are, you served your time. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Doug is a Republican. | ||
| We'll go to Ted, who's a Democrat in Hawaii. | ||
| Hi, Ted. | ||
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Hello, Mimi. | |
| It's good to talk to you again. | ||
| This is quite a little mess we've gotten ourselves into, isn't it? | ||
| I think that people that think very logically and not emotionally can make good sense of this because if you've seen something like this happen before, it is what it is, but it'll go through trial. | ||
| And the thing is, the getting to trial will be a big enough smear on whoever it is, which happens to be Comey at this point. | ||
| The charge is worse than the actual outcome of the trial. | ||
| It's sort of like you're guilty just to be on trial. | ||
| And that's just not fair to Comey. | ||
| And anyway, I wish him the best, and I hope our system continues to run as it should. | ||
| I've been in Hawaii for 48 years since the end of the Vietnam War, and I've been a farmer. | ||
| But I just, I can't help but think that you can see what's going on here when somebody cries liar, and a lot of times it's the guy calling liar that's the liar, not the guy he's pointing the finger. | ||
| Thank you, Mimi. | ||
| Ted's thoughts there in Hawaii Democratic Colorado. | ||
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Here's what's ahead. | |
| Next, President Trump comments on the indictment of former FBI Director James Comey, who was charged with obstruction of justice and making false statements to Congress. | ||
| That's followed by James Comey's reaction to the charges. | ||
| After that, it's Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's address to the United Nations General Assembly, and later a news conference with House Democratic Leader Hakeem Jeffries on the looming government shutdown deadline. | ||
| I'm Dasha Burns, host of Ceasefire, bridging the divide in American politics. | ||
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| Coming up Saturday morning, we'll talk about President Trump's shift on Ukraine policy and a suggestion that the country could win back areas occupied or annexed by Russia since 2014 with Christine Berzina of the German Marshall Fund. |