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June 10, 2025 15:55-16:01 - CSPAN
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Washington Journal Rep. Harriet Hageman R-WY
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john mcardle
Wyoming Republican Congresswoman Harriet Hageman joins us now.
She's a former trial attorney, current member of the Judiciary Committee.
Congresswoman, good morning to you.
harriet hageman
Good morning.
john mcardle
I want to start in Los Angeles and get your sense of the situation out there, what you're hearing as a member of Congress and your concerns as a member of the Judiciary Committee.
harriet hageman
I think what we're seeing is outrageous.
I'm finding it incredibly disconcerting that we have political leaders in California that are taking the side of the rioters rather than the side of the citizens.
It is stunning to me that they think that this is the exercise of the First Amendment right to be torching cars and burning things to the ground and destroying property.
That clearly is not the case.
I can't believe that they don't have more regard for one of the historically great cities in this country that they are going to allow this to happen.
And as far as the sentiment here in Washington, D.C., we simply cannot allow these kinds of things to continue.
We saw what happened in the summer of 2020, over $2 billion in damage, people murdered.
We just can't allow this kind of rioting to get out of control the way that they're allowing it in California.
john mcardle
Do you agree with President Trump's decision to deploy the National Guard here?
And what do you make of Gavin Newsom's suing the president over that decision?
harriet hageman
I think Gavin Newsom, pretty much every decision he makes is the wrong one.
I think that that's how you know what is the right decision to make is to do the opposite of what he does.
Again, it is stunning to me that he would take the side of the rioters rather than the side of law and order.
I don't think that his lawsuit is going to go anywhere.
And I think absolutely if they're not going to protect the federal offices, then they're not going to allow our ICE agents to conduct the operations that they should be conducting.
If they're not going to protect them, then we're going to have to call in the National Guard to do it.
It really is surprising to me that we have people who are waving flags from a foreign country and burning ones here while they're claiming that they don't want to be deported to the country that they're waving the flags of, yet they claim to hate America.
None of this makes sense, and it tells you that this is not an organic movement, that this is just part of the ongoing effort to undermine America.
john mcardle
Do you believe there's reason here to arrest Gavin Newsom as President Trump has suggested he would do?
harriet hageman
I'm not going to go that far.
I don't think that that's what is necessary, but I think that it is incredibly important that we restore law and order.
And I think that we saw more of that last night.
We saw rioting, but I think that you're seeing it quelled much more quickly than we saw again over the weekend as well as during 2020.
We cannot allow the anarchists to control law and order in this country.
We just can't.
john mcardle
You mentioned ICE agents need to have the ability to do their jobs.
A topic that has come up during what's happened out in Los Angeles is the ability of sitting members of Congress to go into federal facilities, jails, to check on those who have been arrested.
What actual authorities do members of Congress have on that front?
What's your understanding about what you're allowed and not allowed to do?
harriet hageman
We have the ability to make appointments so that we can go in and see what's going on.
But I think that you're probably talking about Representative Waters.
That was all for show.
She knew it was all for show.
She knew that she was going to be turned away.
You don't just show up on the front door of a facility like that, especially under the circumstances, and demand to be let in.
She knew that she was going to be exactly what was going to happen, and they turned her away, and they should have.
If she wants to make an appointment to tour the facility, she's more than welcome to do so, just like any other sitting member is.
john mcardle
Do they have to grant your ability to tour a facility?
What is the law that applies here for a member of Congress?
What are the special privileges?
harriet hageman
I don't know that it's special privileges.
I don't know that we're talking about a specific law that says that members of Congress can go into any federal building.
I don't think that that's the point.
I think the point is it's a matter of courtesy and it's a matter of actually accomplishing what you're attempting to do.
I can go into federal buildings.
I do it all the time.
I was in the USDA yesterday, but I made an appointment to go and meet with people, which was the appropriate protocol to follow.
john mcardle
Congresswoman Harriet Hegenman with us until the top of the hour at 9 a.m. Eastern, and she's taking your phone calls.
It's 202-748-8001.
For Republicans, Democrats, it's 202-748-8000.
Independents, 202-748-8002.
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