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pedro echevarria
This is the headline from the Washington Times this morning talking about that first wave of National Guard troops arriving in Los Angeles.
The headline, National Guard arrives to, quote, liberate LA.
The sub-headline, the president responding to protesters' violence against federal officers, saying that the guard troops poured into Los Angeles Sunday, called out by President Trump to restore calm after a weekend of violent protest against the administration's attempt to increase deportations by targeting the country's largest pool of illegal immigrants.
It was the president yesterday amid travel back and forth.
He made comments about the use of the National Guard and the events in Los Angeles.
Here's President Trump from Sunday.
unidentified
You have to see what's happening.
donald j trump
Last night in Los Angeles, we watched it very closely.
unidentified
There was a lot of violence there.
There was a lot of violence that it could have gotten much worse.
And you have an incompetent governor.
donald j trump
Just take a look at the train stations that he's building.
unidentified
Like 20 times over budget.
Nobody's ever seen anything like it.
So I did call him the other night.
donald j trump
I said, look, you got to take care of this.
unidentified
Otherwise, I'm sending in the troops.
That's what we did.
Thank you very much.
You have a question for Marco.
Question for Marco?
Serious California ethical couldn't face federal charges that they stand in the way of the deportation.
pedro echevarria
That was President Trump from Sunday also making comments about the events in Los Angeles, including the use of the National Guard in Los Angeles.
Was the governor of California, Gavin Newsom.
Time magazine and other outlets reporting that his state plans to file a lawsuit early today against President Trump for mobilizing the National Guard over the weekend to quell those immigration-related protests in Los Angeles.
The governor conducting a short interview on MSNBC, in part talking about the planned lawsuit.
Here's Governor Newsom from yesterday.
jacob soboroff
If you're going to sue the administration, tell me a little bit about it.
unidentified
It was a previous law.
Under his executive order, specifically notes, and under what the DOD did is they had to coordinate with the governor of the state.
They never coordinate with the governor of the state.
I've worked with the National Guard.
We've deployed the National Guard.
We did 3 plus thousand folks have been doing logistics work and fire recovery work and they're fighting the fires, the rattlesnake teams.
We did the same back in George Floyd.
We have no problem working collaboratively on a mutual aid system with local law enforcement, but there's a protocol, there's a process.
He didn't care about that.
And the worst part, he completely lied.
He said in a tweet that everything's now safe.
Everything's fine.
Is that the case, Mr. Trump?
He said, because he deployed the National Guard.
The Guard hadn't even been deployed when he said this.
It's Orwelligan.
gavin newsom
Simply lying to people.
Unconstitutional, illegal act.
unidentified
His mess.
We're trying to clean it up.
pedro echevarria
So that took place yesterday as well.
You can comment on the new developments.
You can comment on the overall situation in Los Angeles.
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Arthur in Florida, Republican line.
You start us off.
Go ahead.
unidentified
Yes, sir.
First, all this is a tragedy of what is going on on both sides.
But we need to remember, we need to remember that our nation is just a loft royal in the ocean.
If we overload that loft royal, the whole nation's going to sink.
pedro echevarria
And how does that specifically relate to events in California and Los Angeles specifically?
unidentified
Basically, what this relates to is, what this relates to is that we have to keep some type of control on how many people are allowed to come into the country.
pedro echevarria
Arthur, there in Florida, Arlene in Michigan, Independent Line, you're next up.
Go ahead.
unidentified
Oh, yeah, I am calling in because I've been watching all different stations about what is going on.
And I cannot understand for the life of me why people in this country think it's okay for all these illegals to come in, commit all kinds of crimes, and nothing should be done to them.
I mean, I feel that they need to be deported just for coming here illegally, let alone when they start murdering and transporting people around.
I don't like that at all.
pedro echevarria
Do you think the Trump administration is going about it the right way as far as removing those who aren't supposed to be in this country?
unidentified
Yes, and I also believe that it's a good idea that he called out the National Guard because the mayor wouldn't do anything, and the governor refused to do anything.
pedro echevarria
Arlene in St. Joseph's, Michigan, giving us a call and her thoughts.
Roy is next.
Roy joins us from Florida, Democrats line.
unidentified
Well, this thing in L.A. that's going on, it was bound, people were bound to fight back because, number one, the situation that's going on, they're getting too carried away with this, taking four-year-old girls, taking people that aren't criminals off the street, kidnapping them, not showing their face.
This is Trump's America.
This is why the Republicans just turn their back and not look at it.
And as long as people keep supporting this kind of behavior, I support deporting criminals, but I don't support, I'll do it all day, but I don't support with taking four-year-old kids and people away from graduations.
I mean, it's just totally ridiculous.
And he keeps on upping the ante by saying he's going to send in the Marines.
And I agree with Governor Newsome.
This is a wrong way to do it.
But I'm all for deporting criminals and people that have done crimes.
But these are hardworking people that are in the farms, in landscaping companies, construction sites.
How are we going to get the workers?
Do you think an American down here in Florida where people make $600,000 working for NASA over here in Opodca?
Do you think their kids are going to go out and work one of these construction jobs?
Heck no.
They don't know how to mop a floor.
But, you know, so we're losing our labor, and you're going to soon see that.
Trump has been a miserable failure of a president.
He has sided with the rich the whole time that he's been in there.
pedro echevarria
Okay, okay.
Roy, got your point from the previous, in a letter from a lawyer from the state of California to Pete Hegseth.
This is part of the letter that was written yesterday saying, at present, law enforcement authorities from the city and the county of Los Angeles are safeguarding public safety.
And as demonstrated by the robust law enforcement response yesterday evening to protect federal facilities, local law enforcement resources are sufficient to maintain order.
In dynamic and fluid situations such as the one in Los Angeles, state and local authorities are the most appropriate ones to evaluate the need for resources to safeguard life and property.
Instead, the decision to deploy the National Guard without appropriate training or orders were seriously escalating the situation, adding that there's currently no need for the National Guard to be deployed in Los Angeles.
And to do so in this unlawful manner and for such a lengthy period is a serious breach of state sovereignty that seems intentionally designed to inflame the situation while simultaneously depriving the state from deploying these personnel and resources when they are truly required.
Again, that's a letter to Secretary Hegseth as part of the new events that are the most recent events when it comes to Los Angeles taking place yesterday in Bronx, New York.
Independent lying, Jamie, hello.
Jamie from the Bronx, hello.
unidentified
Hi there, Pedro.
Can you hear me all right?
pedro echevarria
Yes, go ahead.
unidentified
Hi, good morning.
I just want to piggyback on what Roy just said about Trump being a miserable failure of a president.
The fact that the National Guard has been deployed on our own soil for this matter is just beyond astonishing, and it's a massive disappointment.
Folks that join the National Guard, they don't join with DHS or ICE.
They join for a whole other reason.
And not to mention, they're trained to shoot to kill.
This is not an immigration issue, it is not what they're supposed to be worrying about.
They're not supposed to be worrying about policing the streets of the United States.
And my mind immediately, when I heard this news, went straight to the photograph from Kent State with the incident, the massacre that occurred at Kent State, Ohio in 1970, where National Guard members were, they shot and killed students.
A number of students were injured, and they ultimately, you know, were not found guilty because they were doing what they were trained to do.
They were doing their job, but they were put in the wrong place.
And this is exactly what I'm afraid we're going to see again.
So thank you, Pedro.
pedro echevarria
The Wall Street Journal, in their analysis this morning, is saying the White House, in a memo detailing its justification for deploying the National Guard troops, said the protests may amount to, quote, a form of rebellion against the authority of the government of the United States if they inhabit the administration's inhibit, sorry, the administration's ability to carry out deportations.
The Wall Street Journal also adding as part of a historical context, saying the George H.W. Bush administration deployed U.S. Marines to help restore order after violent protests erupted in California in the wake of the 1992 acquittal of four police officers in the beating of Rodney King.
That marked the last invocation of the Insurrection Act.
And in that case, the troops were deployed at the request of California's governor.
Afterwards, some of the troops involved said that he didn't want to do a similar mission again.
That's from the Los Angeles Times.
If you go to Reuters, it cites some of the legal justification that the Trump administration used in the calling out of the National Guard, saying that Mr. Trump cited Title 10 of the U.S. Code, a federal law that outlines the role of the U.S. Armed Forces in the June 7th order to call members of California's National Guard into federal service.
A provision of Title 10 allows the president to deploy National Guard units into federal service.
If the U.S. is invaded, there is, quote, a rebellion or danger of rebellion, close quote, where the president is unable with the regular forces to execute the laws of the United States.
That's from Reuters.
If you want to comment on that or comment on these recent events in Los Angeles from Los Angeles, this is Richard on our line for independence.
unidentified
Hello.
Yeah, you have to understand that the National Guard can be called out by the President for natural disasters as well as civil unrest.
There were protesters today throwing Molotov cocktails at the police.
They had to close down on one of the major highways here, the 101, because of this situation.
And I don't know how anyone can criticize the president when Gavin Newsom is using this as a political football.
He's trying to stay politically relevant.
He so desperately wants to run for president in 2028.
And he finds every opportunity to try to challenge Trump or challenge the federal government when, in fact, he's a failure.
You look at the homeless situation.
pedro echevarria
Well, when you talk about the governor and you talk, the governor in his letter to Pete Hex have said that the current forces available to California were able to take care of the situation as he saw it.
So you don't agree with that?
unidentified
No, I don't agree with it.
That's his opinion.
It's a political opinion.
pedro echevarria
Well, why don't you agree with it specifically?
unidentified
Gavin Newsom has no military experience, has no understanding of what the role of the National Guard is.
And in this case, Donald Trump was trying to help the LAPD who are being overrun, which he fails to mention in these interviews that he gives.
He's a politician first.
He doesn't understand the situation at all.
pedro echevarria
Okay.
In New Jersey, this is Steve, Republican Line.
unidentified
Hi.
Hi, how are you doing?
pedro echevarria
Fine, thank you.
Go ahead.
unidentified
I agree 100% with the Wall Street Journal statements regarding the National Guard.
I support Trump 100% because nobody wants another Minneapolis, another summer of George Floyd and BLM.
I don't think anybody wants that.
Well, when you say you agree with the Wall Street Journal, what do you mean?
Well, regarding that, this may be when the police and ICE are interfered, they're prevented from doing their job and enforcing the law.
So that may be like a bit of an insurrection type of thing.
Also, one thing I want to say is that the people who are being deported, they've gone through a due process.
Okay, now, one thing I want to quote numbers, but I want to use C-SPAN for this.
There was a hearing in Congress, maybe last summer or last spring, CBP, ICE agents before a congressional committee, and 90% of the asylum seekers never show up for their hearing before a judge.
And of the 10% that do show up, only 10% are granted asylum.
So this whole asylum process is a farce.
pedro echevarria
Okay.
Steve there in New Jersey, and he mentions a hearing of one of many that have taken place over immigration, border security, other aspects of immigration policy.
As always, you can go to our website at c-span.org.
And if you type in that search box there, anything immigration-related, not only for this program, but hearings that we have taken over the years on the topic.
Let's go to Rob.
Rob's in Virginia, Line for Democrats.
unidentified
Hi.
Hey, good morning, Pedro.
Thanks for taking my call.
I think the whole situation is unfortunate.
I think it's unfortunate that we are sending our own troops against our own citizens.
I think it's unfortunate that Molotov cocktails are being thrown, like that one gentleman said.
And I also think it's unfortunate that every like 10 to 15 years or so, we have a period of focusing all of our attention on something that black, brown, and or indigenous people are or aren't doing.
So at this rate, at this point in time, it's Hispanics and Latin Americans who are coming up from South America, which most of them are of Indigenous heritage.
A couple years ago, it was Palestinians.
It was Obama before that.
It was immigration again.
And it was before that.
Before that, it was everybody was angry at Muslims because of what happened in 9-11.
And it seems to me we keep getting caught up in this pattern where, yeah, there's these events that happen that are really tragic, but we allow ourselves to get distracted from more fundamental systemic problems in the United States, like these massive corporations buying up all the real estate.
We have the worst health care, the worst education in a lot of those developed countries.
We have poor education.
And so about this event specifically, I don't know because I don't trust any mainstream media for giving like neutral coverage.
And I just feel really sad that we as Americans keep fighting each other over stuff that fundamentally is not affecting us and the things that are affecting us.
We're choosing not to talk about.
pedro echevarria
Okay, Robin, Virginia.
Let's hear from another resident of Los Angeles, Republican Lion.
This is Helen.
unidentified
Hello.
Hello.
Yeah, I've been living in this area, Los Angeles, Southern California area, for decades.
But I digress.
2017, Governor Brown passed assembly bill in the California Assembly making California a sanctuary state.
And when Karen Bass became mayor of Los Angeles during the Biden administration, she declared Los Angeles a sanctuary city.
So now when Trump calls in the National Guard to restore peace and order to the streets of Los Angeles, Governor Newsom whines about, well, where is my state sovereignty?
Where is the state sovereignty?
I never authorized that.
But the bigger question is, where is the United States sovereignty?
California is still a state within the United States.
And the laws, immigration laws, are national concern, federal concern, and they have to be enforced.
Well, the state of California and the city of Los Angeles, the politicians in power have violated repeatedly the federal government, our laws, as the United States laws, federal government laws.
So, you know, it's a dilemma that's not easily resolved with Governor Newsom, who's very ineffective, not a very good governor, and Karen Bass.
She's kind of like her response to the whole fires was mediocre.
karen bass
Okay.
unidentified
Okay.
pedro echevarria
That's Helen there in Los Angeles.
She mentions the mayor of Los Angeles, Karen Bass, former member of Congress.
She gave a press conference on the events stemming out of Los Angeles yesterday.
Here's a portion of it.
karen bass
But we need to be real about this.
This is about another agenda.
It's not about public safety.
There's clearly no plan, and there is clearly no policy.
I want the people of Los Angeles to know that we stand with all Angelenos, no matter where you were born.
The First Amendment right gives you the ability, again, to protest peacefully, but it does not give you the right to be violent, to create chaos, or to vandalize property.
And that will not be tolerated.
So I call on all Angelenos to continue expressing your right, your anger, your outrage, but to do it peacefully.
And I just have to say that all of you were there Friday.
Everybody knows what happened Friday.
A workplace, several workplaces were targeted and raids took place.
Now, in the beginning, the administration said they were just looking for dangerous felons, violent people.
It's hard to say that that's what they found at a workplace or in a Home Depot parking lot.
When this happens, it terrifies people.
It sends a sense of fear and chaos in our city.
And you well remember a few years ago in the last administration, the kids were afraid to go to school.
Parents were afraid to go to work.
This impacts all of our city.
You can't terrify the workplace workforce and then expect for people to get the jobs done.
pedro echevarria
Again, that's the Los Angeles Mayor, Karen Bass, commenting on the events of the last couple of days in Los Angeles now that the National Guard is there, a lawsuit being threatened by the Newsom administration.
Comment on all these things.
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Let's hear from Julia.
Julia and North Carolina Independent Line.
unidentified
Yes, good morning.
I would like to say that ICE agents do not have the authority to arbitrarily arrest and detain individuals.
The Fourth Amendment requires that immigration-related arrests and detentions be based on probable cause.
And that's all I have to say.
pedro echevarria
Why do you think they're not acting in that manner?
unidentified
Because, well, these ICE agents are just, they're going out and they're arbitrarily detaining people.
They don't have a warrant.
The law requires that they have warrants.
They can't just go and raid Home Depot parking lots and go into workplaces and take these people away and detain them without due process.
That's against the law.
pedro echevarria
Democrats line, Lisa is next in Georgia.
Go ahead.
unidentified
I would just like to say is I think that Donald Trump is all theater.
Barack Obama, I had to do some research on this, reported more illegal immigrants than any president in history.
Now, I know that some of you remember when Barack Obama first got elected, that the Republicans were running off kind of campaigns.
He was the open border in chief, and it was, you know, they were just exploding, all of that.
But Barack Obama deported more illegal immigrants than any president in history, and there was no chaos, and there was no political theater.
pedro echevarria
So how does that relate to the events over the weekend and yesterday, specifically?
unidentified
Specifically, I think that the National Guard, the ICE that was deployed to Los Angeles was all about political theater.
All of that does not have to happen.
Donald Trump needs to follow the law.
We are a nation of laws, and Donald Trump does not abide by any law.
That's disgusting.
It is.
pedro echevarria
This is Dusty, Dusty, and South Carolina, Independent Line.
unidentified
Yes, this whole mess has been caused by Donald Trump and Jason Miller.
Donald Trump got on Jason Miller's case because the numbers went and going up about the illegals being sent back.
So Jason Miller tells Rowland, I don't care who they are, what they are doing, or how long they've been here.
Round them up, send them off, and we get the numbers up.
Now, he's got this.
Donald Trump is breaking all, of course.
It's no surprise.
Donald Trump is the most lawless president I've ever seen.
I'm 75 years old.
But he is completely behind it all the way.
He has started this.
These people, we got to have, we have got to have these people.
And they work five, six, seven.
I've worked with them.
I've worked 20 years with them.
And all they want to do is work five, six, seven days a week.
Everybody suffers around me.
And I'm going to tell you, if he calls that army out on these people, it's going to be a sad day.
Thank you.
pedro echevarria
This is a story from March 10th from NBC in relation to what the two callers previous had brought up saying that immigrations and customs enforcement agents deported fewer immigrants in February than they did under the Biden administration during the same month a year ago, according to ICE.
According to that data, ICE deported around 11,000 migrants last month, the first full month Mr. Trump was in office compared to just 12,000 for February of 2024.
One major reason for the higher numbers under the Biden administration was higher traffic from attempted border crossings, both legal and illegal, in 2024 compared to 2025.
People who were first arrested by customs and border protection, which typically means those arrested at the border, accounted for most of the deportations in February of last year under Mr. Biden.
It is easier to deport people detained near the border than to find them after they disperse across the United States.
We've been showing the news out of Los Angeles with the National Guard arriving and lawsuits being threatened by the Newsom administration.
You can comment on those of the larger issues too there on the phone lines in Florida, Republican line.
This is Alan joining us.
Alan, go ahead.
unidentified
Good morning.
I want to agree with several of the callers.
I think it's just a matter of convenience when the Republican Party wants to say states' rights, and they do that when it's convenient, and now they're undermining states' rights by having Trump deploy the National Guard in California.
But the other part I want to make is reference to the homily that the priest gave for Pentecost weekend, and it was about maintaining your faith through this period of division.
And the line that stuck with me was, stop blaming the poor.
People need to remember that.
pedro echevarria
Well, caller, as a Republican, what do you think about deportation efforts overall by this administration?
unidentified
Well, I think they're done inhumanely, and I think there's a better way to do what is legal and to do it with proper due process.
But to sit there and hang out in a Home Depot parking lot, like the last caller said, most of these people will work circles around the rest of us.
pedro echevarria
What's the better way?
unidentified
To do it with proper due process, according to the law.
Like another caller said, we are a country of law and order.
pedro echevarria
Vicki joins us from California in San Jose, Democrats line.
Hello.
unidentified
Hello.
I'm calling today about trying to keep the focus on the actions by Governor Gavin Newsome.
Out here in San Jose, and this is a tinderbox, much like the fires, real physical fires.
This could explode all over the state and carry through the country.
So we want to keep the focus.
And his focus on his protest against the president is this: that the executive order gave the proper call to deploy the National Guard, but when it reached Hegset, DOD, HegSeth put in the order for the National Guard that he had collaborated and coordinated with the state.
And Governor Newsom said no such thing was ever done, which would have been the proper protocol.
The governor isn't questioning the National Guard being sent out under proper circumstances.
He isn't questioning ICE apprehending anyone at this time, although those might be other grievances of his.
But at this point, he's trying to focus on the actual executive order and Heg Seth lying in his deployment of the National Guard, saying that the state was notified properly.
Governor says that was never done.
And then governor goes on to say one more thing: that President Trump said, now everything is safe.
It's all safe there now.
And that was because he deployed the National Guard.
However, when he said that, he had not yet deployed the National Guard.
That's why the governor called him a liar.
So just to keep the focus real tight on this, and of course, there are many other things that we think about every day since Trump caught in his second term and his first term.
But one more thing I would like to bring out.
We all watched as the undocumented people came through the southern border, Greg Abbott shipping them throughout the country on buses and planes.
And now Trump would say, we got to get them out.
We got to get them out fast.
pedro echevarria
Okay, Mickey Barry in California.
You can continue on.
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Roll those into the conversation, of which you can also text us at 202-748-8003 if you wish to do that.
In Nevada, this is from Angela and Reno, Independent Line.
unidentified
Hello, good morning.
pedro echevarria
Morning, go ahead.
unidentified
Yes, I wanted to kind of politely suggest I'm a retired veteran, and this is not what the military and the National Guard is for.
We are not trained to use rubber bullets or de-escalate or participate in crowd control.
I'm a fourth-generation veteran.
When we land, we're there for lethal force.
What I also wanted to point out is that my father was a cop.
The protocol for states, all the states existed before the federal government, not all of them, but we had state sovereignty before we had a federal government.
That's why we're called the United States.
So every state has its own personal police power that only the governor has the right to deploy.
When the LAPD, if that chief of police had thought that he was overrun, he's supposed to call the Sheriff's Department.
And then they call the other California counties to send in supportive troops.
Then if the local California, which is very well funded, by the way, one of the largest police forces in the United States, if all of them got overrun by the problem, then the governor calls the White House and asks for the National Guard.
And that's what the substance of police power is.
So the governor has no choice but to do what he was or what he swore to do by upholding the Constitution and the sovereignty of California, or he's going to get heaphoeed out of there by the voters.
So I just want to, again, I think that we need to, I agree with the other caller, we need to keep a tight rein on this.
We don't need, I don't, I'm from North Dakota originally.
I don't see anybody doing anything about all those Canadians running mess back and forth along our border, but that's because our governor doesn't consider it a problem.
And I agree, it's not a big problem for us, but that's for a governor.
That's a governor's function.
pedro echevarria
Got your point.
Thank you, Angela.
Let's hear from Andrew in Virginia, Republican line.
unidentified
Hi.
Yeah, how you doing?
Good morning to you all.
I just wanted to say that I think it's just really disgusting to watch all the people like burning our flag.
First of all, I mean, you know, that is ordered.
I don't think so.
So, you know, I think that they should have deployed the people, the National Guard there.
That, you know, there's no order there.
You know, let's get order.
And that's what it's about: law and order.
So that's the way I feel.
pedro echevarria
That's Andrew there in Virginia.
It was yesterday that Governor Newsom sent out this on X saying that the Secretary of Defense is now threatening to deploy active duty Marines on American soil against his own citizens.
This is deranged behavior.
It was on the Sunday shows where the Homeland Security Secretary Christy Noam in an interview on CBS talked about what will be determined or what goes into determining if active duty forces become a part of an enforcement situation.
Here's part of that back and forth from yesterday.
unidentified
Well, my hope is always that we work with local leaders that would do their jobs.
kristi noem
And that is what has failed in LA: the mayor has refused to recognize the dangerous situation that she's perpetuating, as well as the governor.
When we ask for backup in a situation, LAPD has waited hours to respond.
And they've waited until we have an officer in a dangerous situation until they come in and help us bring peace.
Oftentimes in these cities, you have good leaders that help give backup to other law enforcement officers, but you have politicians who won't give that kind of resource when it's needed.
unidentified
Unfortunately, waiting several hours for LAPD to show up or telling them, them telling us that they're not going to back us up until they have an officer in a dangerous situation is something that just isn't workable when you have violent protests going on.
So the U.S. work better with us, but that's one of the reasons that you've seen the National Guard come in and help us with those security operations.
pedro echevarria
A story that the Hill's reporting on that came out yesterday saying that Florida State Senator Ileana Garcia, a Republican, a co-founder of Latinas for Trump, issued a sharp rebuke of the president Sunday and his administration seeks to ramp up deportations.
She took particular issue with reported tactics in southern Florida, where immigration courts and other immigration officials have allegedly been making arrests in immigration courts, taking other steps to target individuals otherwise in compliance with legal orders.
Quote, this is not what we voted for.
She posted on the social platform X. I've always supported President Trump, though, through thick and thin.
However, this is unacceptable and inhumane.
I understand the importance of deporting criminal aliens, but what we are witnessing are arbitrary measures to hunt down people who are complying with their immigration hearings, in many cases with credible fear of persecution claims, all driven by a Miller-like desire to satisfy a self-fabricated deportation goal, she continues, referring to the White House Homeland Security Advisor, Stephen Miller.
She goes on to say this undermines the sense of fairness and justice the American people value.
Let's go to Patrick.
Patrick's on our line for Democrats.
He's in Pittsburgh.
You're next.
Hello.
unidentified
You know, it's stunning how the media just continues to create this Wizard of Oz reality when it comes to an invasion of our country.
If you look at all of the flags, what are you seeing?
You're not seeing American flags being flown.
You're seeing Mexican flags being flown.
Now, let me be very clear.
I'm in complete support of the Hispanic community in this country.
But what we're witnessing is a completely crafted, manipulated narrative of lies by a media system that has one objective, and that is to create as much mayhem as they possibly can.
C-SPAN, which is underwritten with corporate dollars, has completely undermined the foundation of our country's ability to engage in a discourse based upon democracy, not some maligned, perverse, corporatized system.
It's so dystopian on so many levels.
pedro echevarria
Well, Collar, you talked about dialogue specifically as far as the situation in California and the governor's actions there.
Speak to that or speak to the Trump administration's action.
It is your call.
Speak to that.
unidentified
You want me to speak to that?
You have a governor who's allowing our country to be invaded, who's supporting the foundation of foreign actors.
Does anybody, are you, is anybody stupid enough to think that the Mexican drug cartels are not completely doing, are not completely behind the foundation of what we're witnessing, that they're not using our media-driven tsunami of lies.
pedro echevarria
Well, back to the point at hand, the Democratic governor says that things were under control before the National Guard came.
And the Democratic mayor said, as a Democrat yourself, why do you disagree with that?
unidentified
How can you sit there behind the microphone and act as an advocate for the governor of California?
pedro echevarria
I am not acting as an advocate.
I'm getting your opinion as a fellow Democrat to what they've said.
So respond to that.
unidentified
The governor, there's a reason why Democrats are walking away from the Democratic Party.
I'm one of them.
And let me be very clear, the very foundation of why I'm walking, why I and millions of American Democrats are walking away from a Democratic Party is the very foundation of what we're witnessing today, what is unfolding today, the tsunami of lies, deceit, manipulation, and allowing foreign governments to invade our country and then act like they're the victims.
Okay.
pedro echevarria
Okay.
Patrick in Pennsylvania.
Thanks for the call.
Let's hear from Chris in North Carolina, Independent Line.
unidentified
Hi.
Hi.
How are you doing?
pedro echevarria
All right.
Thank you.
unidentified
Go ahead.
My comment is It goes without saying that Donald Trump is the absolute worst, most corrupt, criminal president in the history of the United States of America.
How was it that he was able to call the National Guard out in L.A., but he wasn't able to call the National Guard out while the mega morons were attacking our capital?
pedro echevarria
Well, what do you think about him calling out the National Guard in Los Angeles specifically?
unidentified
It was unnecessary.
Of course, it was unnecessary.
It didn't escalate until he did what he did.
Anybody sitting here watching this can see that.
pedro echevarria
Wait, when you say continued SCOT, you say that things were under control before the entrance of the National Guard?
unidentified
Well, there was no throwing of Molotov cocktails.
There was no violence until he sent in the troops.
pedro echevarria
Okay, Chris there in North Carolina.
We'll hear from Kathleen next from Los Angeles.
Joins us on our line for Republicans.
Kathleen, hello.
unidentified
Oh, hi.
Good morning.
Yeah, I agree with the Pennsylvania caller.
Illegal aliens have been a problem in Los Angeles since the 1990s.
I've been calling in, talking about it.
For 10 years, Trump haters, Democrat voters, have been calling in and hating Trump.
Yet the American people voted for Trump.
These Trump haters voted for Kamala.
That in and of itself lets you know they don't have good judgment.
Okay?
So, and the media stirs the pot for 10 years.
The media is anti-Trump.
pedro echevarria
Well, let's stick to the topic at hand.
What do you think then accounts for the last couple of days, what we've seen in your city, including yesterday?
unidentified
Well, this is the issue, okay?
And you guys always interrupt Trump supporters because you want us to stick to a very narrow, narrow narrative, a narrative that you read, a narrative that has been established by the media.
The media has been lying to the American people from day one.
pedro echevarria
Are you saying that the events that you're seeing reported aren't the events that are happening in your city where you live?
unidentified
What are you saying?
What are you asking me exactly?
pedro echevarria
We'll tell you, it's in your city.
Give us your perspective of what's going on, particularly with the entrance of the National Guard.
unidentified
I said illegal aliens have been, listen, I'm a black American.
There are no black Americans in Los Angeles anymore, essentially, because this has been going on since the 1990s.
I talk about it on my radio show.
Black Americans, you know, one of the callers said, oh, black American men don't need construction jobs.
They won't do the job.
They're too lazy.
So you're telling me American men won't do construction work?
Okay.
pedro echevarria
Kathleen, there in Los Angeles.
Thanks for calling.
It was out of KTLA.
They're reporting events of yesterday.
A coalition of California lawmakers and immigration advocates were denied entry to the U.S. Immigrations and Customs Enforcement Facility in Adalento, where many immigrants detained during recent raids in Los Angeles are being held.
It was Representative Gilbert Ciceros, traveled to the ICE Processing Center with Judy Chu and Derek Tran and members of the Coalition for Humane Immigrant Rights and the American Civil Liberties Union Sunday morning there, but denied entries to that facility.
It was Judy Chu in an interview on television, local television out of California, talking about that experience and what she plans to do about it once she comes back to work in Congress this week.
Here's part of that interview.
unidentified
I know I intend to submit a letter that asks questions about why they would do this when the law says that we are able to do this.
And we actually intend, well, of course I want the answers, but we intend to go back.
We intend to go back and see what has happened.
Now, what was our reason for doing it?
It's because we understood that the 44 who were arrested on Friday were first sent to the Metropolitan Detention Center, but then taken to Atalanto.
But nobody knows where they are.
Their relatives, their legal representatives, nobody knows it.
And also, we have no idea of what their status is in terms of being taken care of, whether they have the medicines they need or the food.
We also do not know whether they are legitimate detainees.
These were massive raids.
How do we know that there weren't U.S. citizens amongst them?
There's no information whatsoever at this point.
That's why we have to continue investigating.
pedro echevarria
As always, as the situation plays out in California, I'll look for response here on Capitol Hill, especially as Congress continue work on other fronts.
You can always follow along on our main website, our main channel, C-SPAN, for coverage of the House, the coverage of the Senate on C-SPAN 2, and our app at C-SPAN now.
And as always, you can see what we are covering in and around Washington when you go to our website at c-span.org.
You can continue on in your calls about the events in California, 202-748-8001 for Republicans, 202-748-8000 for Democrats, and independents, 202-748-8002.
Rick, on our line for Democrats, Massachusetts, you're up next.
Good morning.
unidentified
Yeah, good morning.
I just want to mention a couple of things like Trump.
This guy, I'm sick and tired of hearing the word criminals come the word criminal come out of his mouth because that's exactly what he is and whatnot.
You know what I'm saying?
He's running around calling all these people criminal.
Then you got his attorney general running around talking about like this guy to come back to Mal Southern or he did this and he did that.
As the old saying goes, he's innocent until he's proven guilty.
So what she's running out of mouth and how she got that job is beyond me and whatnot.
You got people supposed to be in charge of the justice system guilty before they even get to go to trial.
pedro echevarria
Caller to the events in California.
What do you think about that?
unidentified
Well, like I said, Trump is causing a lot of this stuff.
The thing is that every time something happens, like for example, this blue bill that's coming up, he's sending those national guards down here to check a track from what's going on with that bill that he got down there.
But they can sneak it through there and you're going to hear nothing about it until the next day, oh, they passed the bill now.
pedro echevarria
Well, caller, again, again, back to the point, caller.
You said that the president was causing this.
What do you mean?
unidentified
Like I say, he causes trouble.
Like, for example, like, is he sending ICE agents into his hotels that a lot of these people about here don't damn know nothing about?
It was a lot of illegal agreement working at his hotel.
Do you hear ICE going into his hotel, going into his businesses?
No, you don't hear nothing going into his business.
All that information he had down in his, where he lived at in Florida, all that information from the government.
He had all that information.
Did you see anybody going into that?
No, nobody to nothing.
pedro echevarria
Okay, Rick there in Massachusetts.
Let's hear from Georgia on our independent line.
Deborah, hello.
unidentified
Hello.
I'm glad to be able to speak with you for just a minute.
I am a 64-year-old who has traveled the entire country.
We have camped in 49 states, my husband and I, over the course of the last 10 years.
And I suggest that more people who vote for Donald Trump need to do that same traveling.
People are people everywhere we have been.
And I am not the least bit surprised at what has happened in California.
It's time that we take back our country from the radicals who, if you want to talk about a caller two or three times minutes ago, said something about the flags that were flying.
On January 6th, I was still an independent.
The flags that I saw flying at the nation's capital while we were under siege were Confederate flags.
And I'm from Georgia.
I grew up.
pedro echevarria
Caller, I don't mean to interrupt you, but to stick to the point, you said that your words, you were not surprised by the events of California specifically.
What do you mean by that?
unidentified
Right.
I mean by that, enough is enough when Americans are being rounded up by people who are wearing masks and have clothing on that do not denote what arm of government they represent and huddled off into buses and hidden.
It started when in, was it New Jersey when people couldn't go in and see what happened to people, elected officials couldn't go in to see what had happened to their people?
Well, California is a whole different animal.
They are not going to take it anymore.
Okay.
And I'm proud of them.
pedro echevarria
Brain, Georgia, calling on our independent line, she brought up other instances across the United States where ICE activity is taking place.
The New York Times gives you a timeline of sorts of events recent saying it was on May the 9th in Newark where federal officers arrested Ross Baraka, the Democratic mayor of Newark at an ICE detention center that he sought to visit along with three members of Congress.
While protesters were gathering outside, Mr. Barack was charged with trespassing.
He was released a few hours later in San Diego.
When a large team of ICE agents appeared in tactical gear at a popular Italian restaurant to arrest three workers, a crowd quickly gathered outside to protest the action, and the situation grew heated.
The agents threw flashbang grenades at the crowd as they exited the scene.
The San Diego Union Tribune reported the incident prompted demonstrations and criticisms of ICE tactics.
In Minneapolis, on June 3rd, activists saw dozens of federal agents from ICE and other agencies raiding a Mexican restaurant in South Minneapolis, and a crowd descended on the scene shouting shame and tussling with officers.
The Minnesota Star Tribune reported that federal agents used tear gas at one point to disperse the crowd.
A protester was arrested and charged with assaulting an officer, according to the newspaper.
And then in Los Angeles, which brings us to recent events on June the 6th, it was dozens of federal agents in tactical gear who were conducting an immigration raid on a clothing wholesaler used flashbang grenades to disperse an angry crowd.
Protesters jeered and threw eggs and other objects at agents' vehicles as they drove away.
Hours later, a second clash broke out at the federal detention center in downtown Los Angeles.
It goes on from there.
You can read more of that instance in the timeline in the New York Times this morning.
This is Ed in New York State Republican line.
unidentified
Go ahead.
Oh, good morning.
pedro echevarria
Good morning.
unidentified
I got a question or any remark.
I live in New York, and for the last three and a half years, they've been flying in these illegal immigrants.
We are the government letting this happen.
From Westchester Airport to Stewart Airport to all these airports locally in this town and in New York State.
And where are the people that I'm paying for this?
We're paying for this.
This is ridiculous.
Our governor of New York is sitting up in Albany talking about she needs $2.5 billion to take care of our migrant citizens.
They're not citizens.
They haven't contributed.
I've been paying taxes.
I'm 70 years old, struggling to keep my home, struggling to pay the taxes, school taxes.
Our local schools are full of immigrant children.
Nothing against the children, but I'm paying for it.
They haven't contributed nothing to this state or this country, and they're causing problems.
I got a really good solution for every person that has been harmed or a family member killed by one of these illegal gang members.
You're allowed to shoot it.
pedro echevarria
Okay.
Okay.
We'll leave it there.
Rob in Virginia, Richmond, Virginia, Democrats line.
unidentified
Hello.
Good morning.
I just wanted to let all the listeners know that all this is, in my opinion, is just political theater.
And the reason why is that look at what ICE has been raiding, what Trump's been sending out to raid.
It's been all Democratic cities pretty much.
It's been televised.
Los Angeles, Chicago, Nashville, Tennessee.
If they were serious about this, which I don't consider it a problem because the basis of, I think, the businesses should be punished for hiring illegal immigrants.
And they're heavily donors to the Republican Party, and they don't really get affected by this because it's just smoking beers.
If they were serious about it, then why aren't they showing the poultry farms in Texas, the slaughterhouses in Kentucky, the farms in Iowa, in the Republican states?
Why aren't they rounding them up there?
Because it's all political theater.
pedro echevarria
You're the second person who's the second who's expressed that political theater to what end then?
unidentified
Because it's just to deflect from what's been going on with Musk.
He wants to pretend, they want to pretend like they're being tough on something when they're not.
Because if he was serious about it, then they would be rounding them up everywhere.
And to the part, the callers that don't think that migrants or illegal or illegal don't contribute, then look at the local.
And I have a lot of MAGA grass companies I've seen in my area that hire illegals or illegal immigrants.
I mean, because if they didn't, they would have Americans working for them, but they can get out of paying taxes.
They can get out of paying workers' comp, other things that Americans are entitled to.
So what I think, I'm sorry.
pedro echevarria
Go ahead and finish your thought.
unidentified
So what I'm saying is, it's all just, it's not a problem, but it's a problem when a Republican's in all.
When a Republican's in all.
pedro echevarria
Oh, apologies for that call.
I'm sorry about that.
Robert in Virginia, Independent Line.
Go ahead.
unidentified
Yeah, you know what?
What Trump's doing up in California is just a prelude to what's going to happen.
He's showing his force.
And I'm going to tell you something.
He said it he's not going to have to have, nobody's going to ever have seen another election.
We'll have to throw him out.
And you better start now.
pedro echevarria
Wait, how does all that?
How does all that relate to what's going on in California specifically?
unidentified
Because he's showing people that he can put the National Guard in there without nobody else's permission.
He can threaten to put the Marines in that hedge path.
These people need to be taken out, locked up because they're communists.
And if you don't believe it, just wait a little longer and you're going to see what's happening.
So all you people in the armed forces, start making up your mind now what side you're going to fight on.
Have a good day.
pedro echevarria
In Richmond, Virginia, this is from George, George and Richmond.
Hello.
Oh, let's go to Rebecca.
Rebecca in Massachusetts, line for Republican.
Rebecca in Massachusetts.
Hello.
You're next.
unidentified
Okay.
Thank you.
pedro echevarria
You're on.
unidentified
Go ahead.
Oh, hi.
Good morning.
Calling about the things, events that just happened.
And I don't think this is a publicity.
It's not Republican and it's not a Democrat.
These things in Los Angeles have been going on for a long time.
We've been fighting with the Mexicans and the Spanish coming through the border for a very long time.
The fact that it's escalating, that is now in the media view.
I don't see anything other than DSpend is now covering on, you know, doing things, asking the general public different questions.
I find it more of people sending in videos on their phones, sending videos from everywhere.
Yes, I think the governor could have put it a little more.
The governor from different areas could have done better with policing.
But as far as sending in the National Guard with other, it could have been a little more de-escalating that way, but I don't feel that making it worse was anything more escalated that needed to be done.
But LA has had a very rough history of immigrants coming through that way, but also immigrants trying to survive coming in through the border.
I don't think there's anything different other than what we're seeing now on the news as far as that aspect.
pedro echevarria
Rebecca there in Massachusetts, we will hear from Jan.
Jan in Iowa, Democrats line.
unidentified
Hello.
Good morning.
This is what I feel.
Our president wants to be known as the peaceful president.
In my mind, a lot of these people who are calling in are right.
He is not a peaceful person.
He enjoys being in the public view and he enjoys chaos.
He blames the killings on the immigrants.
No, more people in our country is killed by Americans, not the immigrants.
He needs to stop everything and do the work for the American people and not for his selfish self.
pedro echevarria
Okay, Chris in Minnesota, Republican line.
unidentified
Hi.
pedro echevarria
Your last call.
unidentified
Hi, good morning.
There was a previous caller that mentioned that Trump was taking American citizens off the street.
Well, just because they snuck into our country doesn't make them a citizen.
If I snuck into your house, does that mean that I'm allowed to live there?
If I can get in there tonight, you know, like what he's doing is for the American people.
If you cannot see that, you need to open your eyes.
When you say it's for the American people, specifically how?
Well, it's going to save us money.
I'm disabled, but I still work.
I don't collect disability because I was denied quite a few times.
And I know there are people that are collecting disability that shouldn't be.
And those kind of things like that, when I know that there is an illegal taking benefits that could maybe come to me, that snuck in here, like I said, if I snuck into your house, does that welcome me to your milk?
pedro echevarria
Okay, Chris in Minnesota, a last call on this topic.
Thanks to all of you who participated.
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