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The chair lays before the house a sundry of communications. | |
| The honorable the speaker, House of Representatives, sir, pursuant to the permission granted in clause 2H of Rule 2 of the rules of the U.S. House of Representatives, the clerk received the following message from the Secretary of the Senate on April 14th, 2025 at 2.55 p.m. that the Senate agreed to without amendment. | ||
| House Concurrent Resolution 22. | ||
| Signed sincerely, Kevin F. McCumber, Clerk. | ||
| The Honorable the Speaker, House of Representatives, sir, pursuant to the permission granted in Clause 2H of Rule 2 of the rules of the U.S. House of Representatives, the clerk received the following message from the Secretary of the Senate on April 15th, 2025 at 1.05 p.m. that the Senate agreed to relative to the death of George Foreman of Houston, Texas. | ||
| Senate Resolution 178. | ||
| Signed sincerely, Kevin F. McCumber, Clerk. | ||
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Pursuant to Clause 13 of Rule 1, the House stands adjourned until noon on Monday, April 21st, 2025. | |
| The House now adjourned until Monday, but the Washington Journal continues this morning, and we will end today in our open forum. | ||
| Any public policy issue, any political issue that you want to talk about, the phone lines are yours to do so. | ||
| Here's how you can dial in this morning. | ||
| Republicans, it's 202-748-8001. | ||
| Democrats, 202-748-8000. | ||
| Independents, 202-748-8002. | ||
| We're going to take your calls here on the Washington Journal until the end of our program today. | ||
| That is 10 a.m. Eastern. | ||
| And we're going to start in Caspian, Michigan. | ||
| Robert on the line for independence. | ||
| Robert, it's open forum. | ||
| What's on your mind? | ||
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Good morning, people. | |
| This is Robert from the fascist town of Caspian, Michigan. | ||
| I want to jump off this political train for a minute or two and talk about how sugar happy some of these police officers are. | ||
| There was an incident that took place in Idaho or Iowa, I believe. | ||
| I believe it was Idaho. | ||
| There was four officers that shot and actually it was executed. | ||
| They executed a 17-year-old who was autistic in his own yard through a fence. | ||
| He wasn't showing any harm to the police. | ||
| He did have knife in his hand. | ||
| Unfortunately, he was in his own yard, and it was a disgusting scene. | ||
| And it should be played all over the public. | ||
| What happened was the neighbor I just called the police and said that it looked like there was a drunk in the yard and the kid was autistic and that knife was in handy. | ||
| He was fighting with his parents. | ||
| And Robert, the story from the headline Headline from NBC News on this story: a funeral being held for Idaho teen with autism who police shot nine times in his yard. | ||
| That's the story from NBC. | ||
| Go ahead and finish your comments. | ||
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Did you see that? | |
| Did you see the video? | ||
| I didn't watch the video, Robert, but this story from this week. | ||
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It was an execution. | |
| I truly believe that the officers, they come up in their police cars and they jumped out of the car. | ||
| One officer, as soon as he jumped out of his car, he drew his and he went up to the fence, and four officers went up to the fence, and then he backed away from the fence a little bit when the child was on the ground. | ||
| And he couldn't, not only had autism, he had cerebral palsy, I believe, where he couldn't even stand. | ||
| He was on the ground. | ||
| He acted like he was trying to stand up. | ||
| And that's when they just executed him. | ||
| And I believe, I believe, the business here of the officers, we do need local peace. | ||
| I mean, I respect the badge, you know. | ||
| And there's no problem, but some officers, they just, they're out of control. | ||
| I experienced this myself a few times, but not that bad. | ||
| Well, it's Robert in Michigan. | ||
| This is Catherine in Cleves, Ohio. | ||
| Democrat. | ||
| Good morning. | ||
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Good morning, John. | |
| This is Catherine from Cleves. | ||
| We're between Cincinnati and the Indiana state line. | ||
| And I want to speak about Social Security and Medicare. | ||
| I understand that Social Security, the money will start slowing down in about five years. | ||
| So I was thinking to myself, how can we correct this? | ||
| And I looked up and found that Citizens United made companies, corporations, and businesses people so that they could give more money to their, who they want to get elected for whatever reason, an endless amount of money. | ||
| And I thought, well, we could tax companies, corporations, and businesses like people. | ||
| Take the cap off of Social Security. | ||
| They will pay Social Security on all the money that they make like we make. | ||
| And then we won't have to raise the age of Social Security. | ||
| We won't have to tax the working poor, the middle class. | ||
| We won't even have to tax the super duper rich. | ||
| This will be a way that we could take care of Social Security because on your taxes, you're not allowed to write off your FICA taxes. | ||
| This comes off of the top. | ||
| It does not come off of the whey at the bottom. | ||
| It comes off of the cream at the top. | ||
| And Social Security and Medicare would be taken care of for life. | ||
| Thank you, John, and I wish you a good day. | ||
| That's Catherine in the Buckeye State to the Garden State. | ||
| This is Tom in Flanders, Republican. | ||
| It's open forum. | ||
| Tom, what's on your mind? | ||
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Yes, I tried to get through when Mr. Perry was on, and I'll try to make it quick. | |
| I served in the service with black people and never had a problem. | ||
| Everybody just in the service, so you were all together. | ||
| And I worked for a utility company for 30 years, and we've worked with black people. | ||
| They all made the same money that I made or whatever, whatever class that they were in. | ||
| So never had a problem. | ||
| And now I'm in my 80s, right? | ||
| And I'm thinking, like, I retired 30 years ago, and I'm listening to all of these people calling in and saying how they hate black people, they hate white people, and whatnot. | ||
| And you know, it's gotten to the point where I like if I had a business, I wouldn't hire a black person. | ||
| If I hired a black man, why would you do that? | ||
| Well, how would I know whether he hates me or not, right? | ||
| So, Tom, you think it's discrimination is okay in businesses? | ||
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No, it absolutely isn't. | |
| But I would have never in my in my past have ever thought of it. | ||
| We didn't have racism. | ||
| We didn't talk this stuff. | ||
| We didn't talk black stuff in the house and whatnot. | ||
| And my father never had slaves. | ||
| His father never had slaves. | ||
| I go all the way back. | ||
| All right, that's Tom. | ||
| Jill in Iowa, Democrat. | ||
| Good morning. | ||
| You're next. | ||
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Hi, thanks for C-SPAN for hosting this forum. | |
| I just wanted to say that I just think it's crazy that the focus, you know, the Republicans are talking about common sense, but you look at the airwaves, because I do watch all channels, all news channels. | ||
| I'm a news junkie. | ||
| And they're talking about, you know, they're having the angel mom dog hustling in about how those murder victims of migrants didn't get any due process. | ||
| Tell me what murder victim did get due process. | ||
| You know, those angel moms, it's horrible what happened to their daughters, but it's also horrible what happened to the college students in Idaho or any other murder that occurs. | ||
| The victims of John Wayne Gacy, they didn't get due process either. | ||
| No murder victim does. | ||
| And then the other thing is the amount of airtime that they're spending on the trans issue in Maine. | ||
| There are only two trans students identified in Maine. | ||
| Is it really, really worth really harassing those two young people to not be able to participate with their friends in sports? | ||
| The sports organizations should handle out how championships are fair, not the president of the United States. | ||
| And then the other thing is due process. | ||
| Due process should be afforded to everyone in the United States. | ||
| No one has benefited from due process more than Donald Trump, yet he's trying to deny it to others. | ||
| America is not America without due process, and America is not America with gulags. | ||
| And then the other thing is, I have not seen anything on your program this morning about the leak with Doge in the National Bureau of Labor Statistics and what they were downloading and what the whistleblower has said. | ||
| So could you please show the clip about the whistleblower and the National Bureau of Labor Statistics, please? | ||
| That's Jill in Iowa. | ||
| Jill, on the first topic that you brought out, this is the story from USA Today this morning. | ||
| A man from El Salvador has been found guilty in the 2023 murder of a Maryland woman who was attacked on a popular hiking trail in a Baltimore suburb. | ||
| Victor Antonio Martinez-Hernandez, age 24, was convicted of first-degree murder, first-degree rape, third-degree sex offense, and kidnapping on April 14th, according to the Harford County State's Attorney's Office. | ||
| A Maryland jury deliberated for less than an hour before returning the guilty verdict. | ||
| Rachel Moore, 37, a mother of five, who vanished in August of 2023 while walking on the Mompa Heritage Trail in Bel Air in Northeast Baltimore. | ||
| He was eventually arrested in Oklahoma in June of 2024. | ||
| The story again from USA Today. | ||
| To Dallas, Texas, Independent Line. | ||
| Good morning. | ||
| Go ahead. | ||
| Don't have Dallas, so we'll go to Austin. | ||
| This is Mark. | ||
| Good morning. | ||
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Hello. | |
| Go ahead, Mark. | ||
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Yes, I just wanted to say good morning, C-SPAN. | |
| Just so you know. | ||
| Black people, we have to play the cars that we have been dealt with. | ||
| The game is wreaked. | ||
| And I'm Mr. Perry that was the one that was speaking. | ||
| He spoke good. | ||
| I spoke a good comment or two. | ||
| But like I say, the game is rigged, and there's nothing we can do about it. | ||
| White people can't, couldn't endure the things that black people have went through over the years that we've been going through what we're going through. | ||
| And it's going to get worse. | ||
| But we have to play the hand that we're dealt. | ||
| Mark, why do you think things are going to get worse? | ||
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Look, what's going on? | |
| Donald Trump is talking about sending Americans to El Salvador prisons. | ||
| You know, the homegrown ones. | ||
| What do you mean by that? | ||
| You have white people doing more violent things than black people, but it's just not being reported about it. | ||
| That's Mark in Texas. | ||
| We'll stay in Texas, San Antonio Alejandro, Independent. | ||
| Good morning. | ||
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Good morning. | |
| What's on your mind? | ||
| It's open forum. | ||
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Okay. | |
| Okay, John. | ||
| I just want to know. | ||
| I want to know, you know, why do we think somebody come out with, you know, I'm a homeless man. | ||
| And I just want to know some of the government will come up to fix this problem. | ||
| There's a lot of homelessness out here. | ||
| And because a lot of people say all the companies are drug addicts don't want to work and all that. | ||
| But it's not true. | ||
| There's a lot of homelessness among veterans. | ||
| I see a lot of veterans out here. | ||
| I'm homeless myself. | ||
| How long have you been homeless, Alejandro? | ||
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About two years since I had a stroke. | |
| And I'm in a little bit from this disability society. | ||
| It's only $800, $750 a month. | ||
| And this all I got is somebody will come up with a solution. | ||
| Drug piss people, whatever they can get a decent place to live with. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Have a good day, my friend. | ||
| It's Alejandro in San Antonio, Texas. | ||
| This is Elaine in Michigan. | ||
| Democrat, good morning. | ||
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Hey, hi. | |
| I'd like to challenge something. | ||
| The second previous speaker, the one who talked about immigration and, you know, deportation, he said that the prisons in El Salvador are only going to be paid enough money to cover costs. | ||
| I really doubt that. | ||
| Prisons have always made money. | ||
| There's a lot of privatized prisons of all kinds in this country. | ||
| People are making, private citizens are making money off of these prisons. | ||
| And I wanted you guys to know that there is a detention center being built in Baldwin, Michigan, which is in lower Southeast Michigan. | ||
| And I would just speculate that if Americans start to get deported to these other countries' prisons, you better believe there won't be any white people going. | ||
| So I'd just like to raise some of those points. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| That's Elaine in Michigan. | ||
| About 10 minutes left in the Washington Journal this morning. | ||
| It's open forum asking for any public policy, any political issue that's on your mind as you continue to call in. | ||
| Did want to let you know what's going on on the C-SPAN networks today after our program at 10 a.m. Eastern, a discussion on the global economic outlook. | ||
| The managing director of the International Monetary Fund, Crystalina Georgieva, will speak about the global economy and policy priorities for members of Congress. | ||
| Live coverage at 10 a.m. Eastern here on C-SPAN, also C-SPAN.org and the free C-SPAN Now video app. | ||
| 1 p.m. this afternoon. | ||
| That again is Eastern time. | ||
| It's former Treasury Secretary and National Economic Council Director Larry Summers discussing the Trump administration's economic strategy. | ||
| Mr. Summers is being hosted by the Peterson Institute for International Economics. | ||
| Again, 1 p.m. Eastern Time. | ||
| That is on C-SPAN 2. | ||
| This evening, a couple of events. | ||
| First on C-SPAN, it's a Canadian Party leaders debate between leaders vying to be the next Canadian prime minister ahead of the country's federal election on April the 28th. | ||
| It's a program that we are airing that will include Prime Minister and Liberal Party leader Mark Carney at 7 p.m. on C-SPAN, C-SPAN.org, and the free C-SPAN Now app at 7 p.m. Eastern on C-SPAN 2. | ||
| It's a town hall with Pennsylvania Democratic Representative Madeline Dean. | ||
| You can watch that, see how she interacts with her constituents and addresses their concerns again on C-SPAN2, C-SPAN.org, and the free C-SPANNO video app. | ||
| Back to your phone calls. | ||
| It's open forum. | ||
| Walter in Rehoboth, Massachusetts, Republican. | ||
| What's on your mind? | ||
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Hello. | |
| Morning, Walter. | ||
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Yes, sir. | |
| I listen to C-SPAN every day, and I think it's quite a disappointment that you had Mr. Perry up there really instigating. | ||
| What did you disagree with about his book and his presentation, Walter? | ||
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I disagree with everything that they said because it sounded so racist. | |
| I mean, what does man, man controls his own destiny, and I'm just so surprised. | ||
| Still there, Walter? | ||
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What's that? | |
| Yeah, I'm still here. | ||
| Do you want to finish your comments? | ||
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Yes, I do. | |
| I am very surprised that C-SPAN has a speaker as Mr. Perry is. | ||
| All right, that's Walter. | ||
| This is Tom, Gainesville, Texas, Independent. | ||
| Good morning. | ||
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Good morning there. | |
| So I'll borrow a little bit of what Walter was just saying. | ||
| Well, maybe I won't. | ||
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But, you know, Mr. Perry, I won't say that this was just another round of American bashing and blaming racism on everything. | |
| But I actually would have liked to ask him. | ||
| I assume that his work was probably focused on blacks in America. | ||
| And I would have asked him if there is a majority black country somewhere that, you know, that the life expectancy is longer than it is here in the United States for blacks. | ||
| Probably would have been my question. | ||
| All right. | ||
| That's Tom in Texas. | ||
| This is Latoya Davenport, Florida, mine for Democrats. | ||
| Good morning. | ||
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Good morning, John. | |
| How are you? | ||
| Doing well. | ||
| What's on your mind? | ||
| Just less than 10 minutes here before the end of our program today. | ||
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Okay, well, thank you. | |
| I'm just wondering, why isn't anybody speaking about how King Jefferson is cracking in the Democratic Party being prepped for the next president in 2028? | ||
| Also, Did people not hear and listen when Donald Trump first said something about being a snake in the grass concerning doing what he's doing exactly right now while our world is in the crisis? | ||
| He's so busy with Putin trying to destroy us and destroy Ukraine that he's forgotten about his own country and lowering the prices of our groceries and the economy. | ||
| That's Latoya. | ||
| This is Brittany, Dallas, Texas, Independent. | ||
| It's open forum. | ||
| What's on your mind? | ||
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GEI is simply reserving seats for people who didn't get the correctly deserved merit and earned seats in the past. | |
| They say that we don't have merit. | ||
| They never give us a chance to catch up. | ||
| How can people know how deep our merit really is? | ||
| Diversity of thought is essential where they dehumanize us. | ||
| We have to self-rehumanize. | ||
| All people have to do is stop being mean to each other. | ||
| That's what it's about. | ||
| You can't have real, undiluted equity without genuine equality. | ||
| A highly Masculine woman is not the same thing as a highly feminine man. | ||
| And a highly feminine woman, it's not the same thing. | ||
| A highly masculine woman is not the same thing as a highly masculine man. | ||
| And a highly feminine man is not the same thing as a highly permanent woman. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| It's Brittany in Dallas. | ||
| This is John in Houston, Republican. | ||
| Good morning. | ||
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Yes, good morning. | |
| As far as the Social Security is concerned, I would, you know, I would take a look at the entitlements. | ||
| You know, there's a lot of folks who are not retired receiving Social Security. | ||
| That would be one way to get some savings there. | ||
| And then, secondly, too, you know, since 1973, 64 million American babies have been aborted. | ||
| Those 64 million babies would, had they been allowed to live to adulthood, would be contributing to our entire programs, including Social Security. | ||
| When Social Security was enacted in the 1940s, it was based upon 10, 12 workers supporting one recipient. | ||
| Now, that number is down to like three workers supporting one recipient. | ||
| And yet, we want more abortions. | ||
| We want more babies to be killed, thus, they will not contribute to our society. | ||
| That's John in Texas. | ||
| We'll stay in Texas, Cedar Hill. | ||
| This is Paul, Democrat. | ||
| Good morning. | ||
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Good morning. | |
| Good morning, Cease Band. | ||
| First of all, I'm a retired vet, 64 years old. | ||
| I have never, ever seen anything like this. | ||
| It's the U.S. against the rest of the world. | ||
| We have five right-wing stations on every day trying to reprogram people and push the agenda of Donald Trump. | ||
| And it's ridiculous. | ||
| This red state, blue state, it's supposed to be the United States. | ||
| What they're trying to do is steal the money from the working people and enrich the rich. | ||
| This is horrible. | ||
| We have to come together and get rid of the red and blue. | ||
| It's red, white, and blue. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| That's Paul. | ||
| This is Lewis in Salisbury, North Carolina. | ||
| Democrat, good morning. | ||
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Yeah, top of the morning to you. | |
| Yesterday, there was an African-American man, black man, who said that what have the Democrats done for the Democrats? | ||
| Because he was a Democrat. | ||
| I just want to remind all Democrats and Republicans and MAGAs that the Democrats gave women the first right to vote. | ||
| Democrats also brought in Social Security. | ||
| The Democrats also brought in FEMA and the USAID. | ||
| The Democrats also gave surplus to the United States. | ||
| The Democrats also went on and gave America the ACA. | ||
| The Democrats also went on and also implemented civil rights, Medicare, and Medicaid. | ||
| The Democrats also gave the PAC Act for the veterans who was in war from the career all the way up to now, insurance. | ||
| The Democrats also gave infrastructure for people who did not have Wi-Fi. | ||
| The Democrats did a lot, but a lot of people still want something that this administration is definitely taking away everything that the Democrats have achieved. | ||
| With that, why do you think Democrats lost in 2024 and no longer control any of the levers of the House and Senate or White House? | ||
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Well, if you look at it, the administration that we have here now, he poured fire on gasoline. | |
| And he made topics of like CRT, gay people in sports, nothing for the American people. | ||
| He also ran on tariffs. | ||
| I'd like to ask your viewers, if you get a chance, ask your viewers when Trump was talking about tariffs, would they have voted for him if he said you're going to feel some pain? | ||
| He said a lot of things, but he definitely is showing the people that he lied. | ||
| But the Democrats gave a lot of contribution to the United States that we are going to miss in this administration. | ||
| Thank you, C-SPAN. | ||
| That's Lewis in North Carolina. | ||
| A few minutes left here. | ||
| You can go ahead and keep calling in in open forum. | ||
| This is David in Lynchburg, Virginia, Democrat. | ||
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Hi, John. | |
| Trump's going off of a book back in 1998. | ||
| It was Project 2025, Heritage Foundation. | ||
| He's wanting to make a white supremacy race. | ||
| But everybody ought to read this book. | ||
| I'm a Vietnam veteran. | ||
| I've worked all my life. | ||
| I'm retired now, and I depend on my Social Security and my veteran, I get from VA. | ||
| I was in Vietnam, 20 years old, making $93 a month. | ||
| And Musk makes $40 million subsidies off of his NASA. | ||
| I think y'all do away with NASA and do away with Mump and Trump both. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| You all have a good day. | ||
| That's David in Virginia. | ||
| This is Tiny, Brookshire, Texas, Republican. | ||
| Good morning. | ||
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Good morning. | |
| God bless you. | ||
| Yes, my open form is the illegals that President Trump is sending to those prisoners. | ||
| My prayer is that everyone that Joe Biden allowed to walk across that border, he would send them all back. | ||
| They don't need due process. | ||
| They didn't go through due process to get here. | ||
| So why should we as taxpayers be paid our money to get rid of them when the government allows them to come in? | ||
| It's Tiny in Texas. | ||
| This is Jessica in Illinois, Independent. | ||
| Good morning. | ||
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That bigger man from Texas should shut his mouth about immigration. | |
| The question is: why are people deciding in South and Central America that they need to immigrate? | ||
| There's something wrong in this hemisphere, and it's up to the United States to try to help solve the problem so they won't leave their home country in the first place. | ||
| And the next question is: why wasn't Donald Trump been arrested for defying a court order? | ||
| That's Jessica. | ||
| This is Richard Verona, Missouri. | ||
| Democrat, good morning. | ||
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Good morning. | |
| I'm just wondering if these people sending people down there to South America didn't really study history. | ||
| Hella gas chamber would be a lot cheaper than you do now. | ||
| All right, we'll go to Daniel in Red Creek, New York. | ||
| Democrat, good morning. | ||
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Hello? | |
| Go ahead, Daniel. | ||
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I'm on the air. | |
| You are, Daniel. | ||
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Okay. | |
| I would like to comment about all of today. | ||
| MAGA, to me, means make authoritarians great again. | ||
| And then when you were talking about who's the leader of the Democratic Party, I would say that it is George Clooney, but I'd rather it be AOC. | ||
| Daniel, in that interview with CNN, George Clooney mentioned Wes Moore, governor of Maryland. | ||
| What do you think about Wes Moore? | ||
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No, I think that it should be AOC. | |
| I mean, she's on top of the Capitol. | ||
| She's standing in the harbor of New York. | ||
| And I think she would be the one who could hold the scales of justice. | ||
| And that's all I want to say. | ||
| Why do you think she stands for you mentioned the statues of liberty and freedom? | ||
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Because she's the goddess Columbia. | |
| I guess. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I just think this MAGA is just too crazy. | ||
| That's Daniel in New York. | ||
| Francis is in Lexington Park, Maryland. | ||
| Democrat, good morning. | ||
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Good morning. | |
| How are you doing? | ||
| Doing well, James. | ||
| Go ahead. | ||
| Just about a minute left here. | ||
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Hello. | |
| What's on your mind, Francis? | ||
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I was just wondering, like I said, why they nobody likes it on the call to say anything about why that no one seems to be alive. | |
| It's not Donald Trump that's doing all this damage. | ||
| It's a group of organized criminals. | ||
| And I say that because they're always trying to find these loopholes that Trump likes and then blame Trump for it. | ||
| And Trump is not that intelligent enough to know what's going on in each one of our government divisions out there. | ||
| So it's just wrong for them to blame Trump for that when it's organized crime and criminals. |