Candace Owens investigates Pam Bondi's firing, alleging Trump dismissed her for tipping off Eric Swalwell about his relationship with Christine Fang while they allegedly protected Epstein files. She critiques Blake Neff and Turning Point USA over Erica Kirk's suspicious alibi on September 10th, citing conflicting witness testimonies regarding her location during Charlie Kirk's shooting and questioning the authenticity of a succession video. Owens suggests a curated narrative surrounds Erica's rise, links Bondi's ouster to loyalty demands, and claims Epstein remains alive via an Israeli operation, concluding that these events point to deeper elite conspiracies rather than simple tragedy. [Automatically generated summary]
But I'm still wondering how Blake Neff is still employed.
Blakey Neff, he is my favorite of the shady bunch over at Turning Point USA because I just don't know how he does it, right?
He is just so notably and publicly, emotionally immature that he makes what we do fun here.
He gets angry.
He lashes out.
He says stuff.
And inevitably, he always just kind of makes things worse for them.
It's like watching reruns of Tom and Jerry.
Like, we know how it ends, but Tom's got a Tom.
Blake's got a Blake, you know?
Also, it is high time before we go on break next week that we begin delicately prodding the narrative that Erica was with her mother receiving treatment when she got the call from Mikey McCoy that Charlie had been shot.
I have been quietly investigating that in the background, and I'd like to tell you what I have thus far discovered.
So, let's get into it.
Welcome back to Candace.
Okay, first and foremost, I wanted to provide you guys with a fun little update because yesterday we told you about decoy boy number two, Zachariah Kureshi.
He was detained.
Kash Patel shut down the investigation for an hour and a half and then he was released, and we weren't told much more.
We revealed to you, and that was obviously in large credit due to Baron Coleman, that his dad is an 06 in the Navy.
I guess he's in the Navy Reserves part time.
Mitch Snow saw a meeting.
Including in Fort Huachuca the day before.
And he said there were a lot of 06s.
And I sort of wondered out loud whether or not Daddy Qureshi had any connections to Fort Huachuca via his built app that he co founded, which I am told and now understanding is exactly for mission prep, like has the ability to create a real 3D visual walkthrough.
So you could, in this example, you could see without being in Utah where Charlie was going to be sitting.
Where you were going to take him and drive him to Timpanogos Hospital, which door you were going to go through at Timpanogos, if you were prepping for a mission, that app would come in handy.
Now, again, can't say that's what it was used for, but what I can state is that someone else is in Ahmed Qureshi's family.
And Tor Qureshi is his name.
And he was, in fact, stationed at Fort Huachuca.
Same family, according to Tor Qureshi's LinkedIn.
He trained there using Ray.
Reconnaissance drones.
He trained how to use reconnaissance drones.
So I just thought that you should know that it really is like a military family affair surrounding this event.
Anyway, now quickly switching gears here to the topic of the day.
So, there is something about a guilty conscience it causes people to overthink unnecessarily, right?
They scheme, they plot, they're trying to fill in holes in a narrative, they're trying to be prepared, but they don't really pause to consider that sometimes with too many details or overthinking things and saying too much, you kind of incriminate yourself, right?
It's unnecessary complexity that is added to an issue.
Too many details, what transpires is something that is known as misdemeanor.
Mythomania.
I learned this word today.
That's our vocab word of the day.
Mythomania.
Definition of that is it is an unusual or pathological tendency to exaggerate or tell lies.
Okay.
Example, I would say BBNet and Yahoo, right?
Perfect example of this overthinking, making things complex.
When Charlie died, his team, they were thinking too hard.
They were like, okay, so here's what we're going to do.
So people definitely don't think it's you.
As soon as he gets shot, you should tweet, even before the president of the United States, that you're praying for Charlie.
That will definitely remove suspicion.
If you tweet first, even though you're You're fighting this massive war everywhere, and this isn't your country.
If you tweet first, you're praying for Charlie, that will, no one will think it was you.
Narrator, people did in fact find that tweet to be remarkably suspicious.
And then his team were overthinking some more, and they were like, okay, here's what we're going to do.
Then the very next day, we'll get you on Fox, where you should passionately deny that you killed him.
That will definitely remove suspicion.
Narrator, it most certainly did not remove any suspicion.
Again, They went a little too complex, right?
Similarly, when I sat down with Erica Kirk on December 15th, I had a very short list of questions, like I told you, that I was seeking clarity on.
I did not, you'll recall, back in December, think that Erica was a part of any plot to assassinate her husband.
Did I think some of her actions and movements were strange?
But I was being very empirical, just following what was in front of me, following the proof that I had.
And Erica had not told any verifiable lies to the public until.
Right before we met, she publicly told Glenn Beck that she had Charlie's phone and he did not text people the night before saying that he was fearful of his life.
That was kind of, for me, the first hmm?
It was a disastrous PR campaign altogether that week, which ended with her alongside Barry Weiss.
That was weird to me.
My antenna started going up.
But when I went into that meeting, nonetheless, I had very pure intentions.
I just wanted to see clarity.
At no point on my podcast prior to that moment had I attacked Erica, nor, and this is perhaps more crucial, nor did I ever question whether or not Charlie wanted her to become the CEO.
Frankly, my thought when they announced her as CEO was that was probably for the public.
You know, it's like this everyone's so emotional, everyone feels all over the place.
It was supposed to be this emotional, feel good.
Hey, we're making a public decision.
Charlie is gone, but his legacy is going to live on through his wife.
And I thought that she's probably not really going to be the CEO.
You know, it's just, she's kind of just more kind of be the icon.
And Justin Stryfe is probably going to be running things behind the scenes.
So I was very caught off guard and surprised when, during our meeting, out of nowhere, they pulled out a piece of paper, which they had printed out.
And they said, oh, this is a transcript, a transcript of what Charlie said when he named Erica, said that he wanted Erica to take over for him in the event that he dies.
I was like, huh?
And they were going to hand me the transcript.
I was like, I mean, I haven't even talked about this at all on my show.
I don't need that.
And I was surprised because I didn't ask for it.
I didn't ask for proof of that.
I didn't make any claims about that.
But they, for some reason, wanted to clarify that, to put that on record, something that didn't really need clarification.
Why were they overthinking that?
So, of course, the opposite thing happened where for the first time, I thought, is there something weird about that?
Is there, did Charlie say that?
And Erica had previously, before I sat down with her, confirmed that there was a video of this moment, a video of Charlie just weeks before he died saying that he wanted her to take over the company.
Stunning, a stunning claim for two reasons right off the bat.
One, because Charlie Kirk, on every stage that he was ever on, repeatedly said that women should not aspire to climb the corporate ladder and to become CEOs because that is not fulfilling.
Right.
He said over and over again that home life was of more substance, of more value.
He said this even next to, beside Erica, in front of Erica, across from Erica.
They together spoke about the mistake of women thinking that they could have it all.
And he was speaking about that to be sure in an environment where there were two living parents.
So even with two living parents, Charlie stated profusely to his audiences that women should not strive toward corporatism.
That privately, and also just a couple of weeks before he died, Charlie had completely reversed course.
And he did that again in a private setting in front of his donors.
He just like did a 180, and within kind of the most dramatic situation imagined.
Like he was saying, if I die, which would reduce our children to having just one parent, I would want at that moment my wife to step up and to assume the role of CEO.
And that's certainly what Erica Kirk told Megan Kelly on November 24th.
In August, before all this happened, he had an event where he had some donors at.
And one of the first questions they asked was.
God forbid if something happens to you.
Like, what would happen next?
A turning point.
And Charlie made a really interesting point.
He said companies, you know, example, Apple, Macintosh, he said they're founder led.
He said, but what I have built is, will one day, if I'm not around, be vision led.
And he had made mention at the end, like, you know, Erica will do a great job running it.
And when I watched that video this week, it really put into perspective my youth and what I went through growing up and what I witnessed.
You know, my mom having her own company and being a single mother and watching her be the blueprint of, you know, I'm not afraid of raising my children alone because I saw my mom do that.
I'm not afraid of being a CEO because I saw my mom do that.
So now it's kind of tracking for me why she started saying that her mother grew up as a single mother.
She never did.
I told you Erica had a bonus parent.
She always had a stepfather in the home when her parents divorced, and her father was always in her life.
But I see now we're curating for this moment of becoming the CEO.
And this feels too timely, right?
This investor meeting, what she's referring to, just so you know, took place from August 15th to the 17th in Aspen.
So this was a mere three weeks before Charlie died.
And making matters more interesting was Amfest.
This is.
Turning Point's big year end event, they decided to make premiere Charlie saying this, but audio only.
Okay, so they stripped the video and used just the audio as Erica's walkout music.
They used what they are alleging is Charlie's voice, but no video.
That's a very curious decision because if you do, in fact, have a video of Charlie naming his wife to the position of CEO, wouldn't that be the most powerful footage that you could possibly release to get the public to rally behind her?
Everyone's missing him.
They're missing his voice.
Wouldn't that be like the first thing you did?
How powerful would it have been to have a video running and then you see Charlie and he's like, I want my wife to be the CEO if I die, right?
And so I'm wondering, what would possibly guide your decision to only release the audio?
And I'm going to allow you to listen to that audio.
Answering the question, we have a great board, like, you know, they'll figure everything out.
And then suddenly I appoint my wife.
So, great board.
I appoint my wife to do if anything happens to me.
It seems out of place.
At the very least, we can determine that that is clearly an edited audio.
That's very clearly edited audio.
So, I set about just sort of after I met with her, reaching out to people that attended that event, like trying to figure out, okay, who attended this event?
Like, what was their memory about this event?
And I spoke to a total of four people.
And I can tell you that.
Three out of the four people, and one was a couple, did not remember Charlie saying this.
They did not remember Charlie Kirk saying this.
And the fourth person, or rather, couple who said that they did remember it, and without giving you guys alluding to any further details, they would be considered a conflicted witness because they have ties to Turning Point outside of a donor relationship.
Okay.
So I found that to be very compelling.
That's not something you forget.
She says, the first question he's asked Hey, you're 31.
The reason Erica is front and center at Turning Point is because when Charlie was alive, people repeatedly asked, Charlie, we're worried something will happen to you.
People always speculated that something could happen to Charlie.
And when he was asked, he would, first of all, he was totally fearless.
He would just say, like, oh, it'll be fine.
Erica will take over for me.
That is what he said over and over.
I saw them interact.
All the time, almost on a daily basis, even when he was traveling, he was calling her all the time, he was talking to her all the time.
Charlie and Erica were partners.
They were husband and wife in a deep way.
Their marriage was incredibly admirable.
I've seen a lot of marriages.
Some of them are good, some of them are bad.
Charlie and Erica's was exceptional.
They were on the same wavelength.
I saw how much that relationship, I didn't know Erica as well prior to Charlie's death, but especially in the wake of it, I saw how much everything he'd done meant to her and how completely committed she was to fulfilling everything.
His mission, what he had done in life, that she knew the life I thought I was going to live has changed very abruptly, but I am fearlessly going to embrace the new one because I know it's what I have to do for my husband and for his legacy.
She's become the CEO of the organization because that is what Charlie wanted, and it's because I saw it with all the people who were senior at Turning Point.
There wasn't even a question that that is what would happen.
There was no one forcing this, there was no one pressuring it to happen.
This is what everyone at Turning Point wanted to happen.
Yeah, I think the employees would say something else.
But said another way, Blake is saying that Charlie prioritized his business above his family.
That is what he's saying.
That he often thought about what would happen if he died.
And in Charlie's head, he wanted his children to be raised by nannies while his wife assumed his position of CEO.
Even though his whole life he said, even if you're married and you're both alive, a wife shouldn't do that.
But he was like, if I die, the most important thing is going to be making sure that this company continues.
And Erica is the right person to do this.
So he knew what that job consisted of.
Traveling, working 80 hour weeks sometimes.
That's what they are telling you.
Charlie cared more about Turning Point USA than his own children's well being.
There is no other rational way to interpret if I die, I want my wife to assume this role.
So I thought, you know what?
Blake shared that video publicly yesterday.
I thought I'd politely ask Blake to maybe share the video of Charlie saying that.
That is like, hey, this could go a very long way.
Here's what I said beneath the video that he shared on X.
I said, I love this.
Can you please release the video that you shot in Aspen of him naming her as his successor a couple of weeks?
Before he died, I just feel like that would go a long way.
And whoa, did he get back to me with something fierce?
Some would say he got a little too complex, okay?
He said this Candace, we haven't bothered playing it because we know psychopathic predators like yourself do not care what is true or false and normal evidentiary logic has no effect on you.
You're the kind of person who sees coded messages in the number 33, but then ignores evidence like DNA on a rifle or Tyler Robinson's own family members turning him in.
Playing the audio at Amfest already was not enough.
You'll obviously just say it's AI or a hologram or an Israeli actor or something.
So, what's the point?
We gave up the possibility of any good faith conversation with you months ago.
It's like trying to reason with a maniac brandishing a knife and screaming at people on the subway.
First and foremost, 33 is, in fact, a Freemason degree.
Not sure what that has to do with anything.
It's a fact of life.
I don't know why.
Kash Patel kept saying it other than the fact that he was signaling to the public or to other Freemasons.
Secondly, we have addressed the DNA on a rifle.
Actually, you guys haven't.
And I have been clear that it's actually you guys who refuse to tell the public that there were also five other sets of DNA found on the rifle.
We know it's Tyler Robinson's rifle.
We've never debated that.
What we have said is that there is no evidence that that particular rifle was fired.
And also, I have to ask the question.
Why are you bringing up AI?
And am I hallucinating, or does Turning Point regularly share videos of Charlie Kirk all the time?
So, why is this particular one you're worried about people thinking it's AI?
They even share outdated videos and try to pretend that he's supporting the Iranian war.
Like they're getting fact checked on X because they're sharing outdated videos and misrepresenting Charlie's actual beliefs about the Iranian war.
But now they're suddenly concerned that if they release one more crucial video, People will think it's a hologram or AI or an Israeli actor.
Why does that feel more like a confession to me?
Like they're trying to get ahead of something.
Like this might be the reason they didn't release it in the first place.
And also, was I like under the influence or high?
Or was it not Erica, the CEO of Turning Point USA and the team that guaranteed us that they were going to release tons of never before seen speeches and videos?
They had a whole supply of them.
Can we run the clock back to 16 days after Charlie was killed and take a listen to them telling us that?
This is you guys making a promise that you were going to release Charlie.
You've got his voice.
You've got videos.
You've got speeches.
You've got never before seen everything.
He's in Korea.
He's with Mikey McCoy.
Why is it suddenly that this one particular and most crucial video to your narrative, a video that you yourselves introduced into the public conscience, absent any pressure?
Nobody said, hey, we need to know that Charlie wanted this thing immediately.
What's the story?
Did he go and save us at a retreat three weeks before he died?
We didn't put any pressure on you guys.
You just casually mentioned and came up with a whole story that you had captured this video of Charlie's one of his dying wishes, because that's a normal question for donors to ask to a 31 year old man.
Hey, what happens if you die?
Who do you want to take over?
Done a ton of donor demands with Charlie, including ones in Aspen, never heard of this question ever.
But I guess things changed, they had different concerns.
And now I'm asking you guys the question what change that me simply asking for you to release this footage makes you angry?
The mere idea of being asked to release this footage makes Blake angry.
And to this analogy or accusation that's because you're afraid of a psychopathic predator like me brandishing a knife on the subway, I want to let you know I laughed so hard at this ex user.
His name is Sean.
His immediate common sense response to this, because common sense is clearly lacking at Turning Point USA.
He tweeted this.
He said, If a maniac was brandishing a knife and screaming at people on the subway because they wanted me to send them a video, I would just send them the video.
Only the person who doesn't have it would not show him the video.
And yeah, so I wanted to make that public demand because that now feels significant.
It kind of locks in another piece of the puzzle here with why Erica's story about her childhood seems to have changed.
It's a dishonest narrative that she was raised with a single mom and like they were just kind of, again, Shape shifting a bit to get the public prepared for this moment or to accept this moment.
And I'm asking also because I have a trick up my sleeve, as always.
I would like to put Turning Point into position where they share this video.
I personally think it went something like this.
They were overthinking.
Someone in the room was like, okay, but like then, if we name Eric come as CEO, like 48 hours later, then people might notice that Charlie, you know, all that footage of him for years.
Touring around the world, telling women to get married, raise kids if they have a filling life.
Wouldn't it be weird if she suddenly then takes this position?
Like, people might wonder, hey, was that her plan all along?
And a number of them said, Ask her, please ask her how you think about your career, and now that you're going to be taking over a turning point, and balancing family, and what your view is of that.
I grew up with a mother who is an entrepreneur, who's her and I. My parents got divorced when I was very young, when I was five.
And I saw that as a blueprint.
So that does not scare me, being a single mom, if you will, now, and running a company.
There really is no such thing as balance.
There's always going to be a give and take.
But what this grieving process has taught me is that there is really no blueprint of what I'm going through.
It's really a one of one type of situation.
And It's interesting because I, when you view how pain can be morphed into a form of purpose that you see will outlive you,
again, it puts into perspective that this isn't about me, this isn't about my life, this is about the legacy my husband left behind, but it's also about how we're fighting the good fight for our country.
And when it comes to career, I will be fully transparent.
I was fully bought into the boss babe.
I mean, I lived in Manhattan.
Charlie essentially plucked me out of the New York City orbit and was like, no, I have a healthier way of viewing things and looking at life and things like that.
And he was right.
He was right.
And I remember thinking if I would have stayed on that path I was on, I would have lost out on.
Some of the most beautiful moments of my life, children, having a husband, being able to create and build something so incredible.
And again, yes, balance is an illusion.
I bring my children to the office, I have them with me constantly.
We have a phenomenal team.
It doesn't just fall on my shoulders.
Charlie was very good about creating and intentionally building a machine where.
It turns from founder led to vision led.
And he shared everything with me.
I knew his goals.
I knew what his vision was for things.
So this is not out of my orbit.
This is not uncomfortable for me.
And it's not because I'm picking up a mantle that I understand and that I know that Charlie has entrusted to me, the team has entrusted to me, the Lord has entrusted to me.
She did, you know, what's referred to as the DC dip and twirl.
If they give you a question you don't like, just keep talking and hope that people forgot the question that was initially asked, which is, Aren't you kind of a hypocrite?
Right?
Aren't you a little bit of a hypocrite doing this?
Well, there's so much happening.
There's so much.
And Charlie and I was in New York.
And let me tell you a funny story about my mom in the third grade.
No answer.
Because it is full and it is utter hypocrisy.
And again, it feels to me as though they had sort of prepped this.
And I find it.
Am I wrong here?
Do you guys agree?
It's a little suspicious that they love releasing videos, the books, everything of Charlie Kirk.
And yet here they have on camera, allegedly, his dying wish for Erica to take over, to take over if he dies young at the age of 31, which he then happened to do three weeks later.
If you ask, they're angry, you brandishing psychopathic subway killer.
Seems a little suspicious.
I'm going to leave it at that.
And before I tell you something that's even more suspicious, did a lot of research into her day of alibi that she was with her mother.
And I want to put out some feelers for you and let you know what we have discovered.
We will do that when we come back from a quick break.
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All right, you guys, let's get into Erica's story regarding her whereabouts on September 10th.
Now, we've already established Erica lies and she pivots and she edits, and then a bunch of people come out to protect her.
She's got money, she'll get the PR to come.
But I tend to agree, having looked into her background and her story and the manner in which she lies, I tend to agree with the opinion, which was shared by Elizabeth Lane, that Erica has psychopathic tendencies.
By the way, Blake.
Looking back at you, buddy, right?
I'm not the one who had an employer that got allegedly shot in front of my face and I didn't think to call 911.
I feel like that's a little psychopathic.
I kind of just running to the back with Mikey and Mikey calls his wife and you call your mom and no one calls 911.
I feel like that's a little psychopathic.
I feel like walking away calmly is like psychopathic vibes, you know?
Going into the casket with your chief donor lady.
That's a little psychopathic.
I don't know.
I'm not like an expert, I'm not Sigmund Freud.
I'm not into, you know, the Kabbalah and 33rd degree masonry, but that felt to me a little psychopathic.
Anyway, regarding Erica's whereabouts on September 10th, I want to be super clear at first that I am not questioning whether or not Erica's mother has an illness.
That has never been what I have been investigating.
I have said many times that I've known, it's been a discussion.
I think Erica has even herself talked about her mother's Lyme disease in different settings.
The reason why this is even significant.
Is because it's a part of Erica's story, whether or not she was with her mother, as she says, on September 10th when she received the news from Mikey McCoy that Charlie was shot.
Because I cannot ignore my gut feeling that a person that will do that, you know, have the chief fundraiser record you grieving over your husband, that they've got some tendencies, some tendencies to use emotion to manipulate people.
And there was something that felt off to me about when I learned.
After Charlie's assassination, the timing of her post two days prior to Charlie being shot, she posts this video of her mother looking tremendously frail and sick on the eighth, despite the fact that she had not posted her mother in years.
It feels manipulative to me.
It feels like providing the public with an unimpeachable boundary.
Like, look at my mother in this state.
Anything that I say that is attached to my clearly ailing mother cannot and should not be questioned because that would be immoral.
Again, Manipulative, highly manipulative, especially to post something like that without details.
Okay, there's nobody worse on Instagram, and this is like a broader point than people who like, you know, post themselves and their arm and they're getting an IV and they like put a verse and then they give you no further details.
It's like just a cry for attention, right?
It's never normal to do that without any details.
And it also, in the context of Erica, makes it so that people will just fill in the blanks and assume the worst, right?
To assume that something like maybe her mother's terminal.
So, we were initially told about Erica's whereabouts on September 10th, or at least I think this was the earliest I can remember, I'm sure, Turning Point USA.
And if you find clips of that, please send it to me.
I know they were doing the rounds on the news, but I was not watching the news at that time.
Erica sat down with the New York Times, as we have many times covered over, just days following the assassination, welcomed them into her and Charlie's apartment.
And here's what they published verbatim They wrote, it had been Ms. Kirk's plan to accompany her husband to Utah, but her mother would be undergoing medical treatment in the Phoenix area that same day.
Home, Needs you, Mr. Kirk told her.
They agreed that she would instead travel with him on the next leg of the tour to Colorado State University.
So they're already kind of setting up right there.
Like the whole reason she wasn't there was because her mother is so sick and she needed to be there.
It continues Ms. Kirk was sitting in her mother's hospital room at 11 23 a.m. local time in Phoenix when she saw the number of her husband's longtime assistant, Michael McCoy, appear on her phone.
In retrospect, she said she knew the words, he's been shot before Mr. McCoy screamed them.
Kind of weird.
Not every day somebody gets shot.
That's a political figure.
I don't know.
That just seems very strange to me.
But that's her story.
So they said the hospital.
Again, we're going to have to assume now that this reporter is like just writing whatever they want.
The most crucial details, they're just effing up.
And for whatever reason, we have a scenario where no one's moving to correct them.
Okay.
That was the established narrative, but she was in the hospital.
So it was like this double whammy of she not only lost her husband, but she was just being this doting daughter and, you know, standing by her mother's side.
She's getting treatment.
And her mother looks like she might be dying again.
These are psych games.
Then we heard straight from Erica in November a little more detail during her sit down with Jesse Waters.
Here is what she told us How did you find out Charlie had been shot?
I was like, well, that's a pretty big event, right?
A woman collapsing in a parking lot on a day.
This is literally a day that will live in infamy.
Everyone will remember where they were when they learned that Charlie Kirk had been shot.
That's how big of an event this was.
This is like 9 11.
I'm sure JFK getting shot.
Obviously, I was not alive for that, but like I can tell you exactly where I was.
During 9 11, I can tell you exactly where I was when Charlie got shot.
And this is everyone.
This has never been seen before to watch somebody bleed out in that way.
It spread like fire.
So even if you were someone who did not know who Erica Kirk was, if you got the news that Charlie had been shot and you then realized, oh my gosh, that's so funny because then her face was everywhere, I just realized I must have seen Erica Kirk because I was in my car.
It's a massive parking lot where she's referring to.
And I saw a woman collapse.
And like that, she had blonde hair.
That's what I'm looking for.
Like, there should have been a lot of eyewitnesses to this scene of a woman collapsing.
It also would require, of course, if you collapse in a parking lot, that the nurses are gonna come out, escort you back in.
How are you gonna get from that parking lot?
Are they gonna call the police?
Who knows?
So, then I determined that the place in question is not a hospital at all.
There's no way anyone would describe it as a hospital.
It would be more appropriately described as an IV therapy place.
If you were gonna compare it to anything, it is a holistic clinic, which is a good thing.
I'm all for holistic medicine.
So, it's like I just want to assert that it is not by any stretch of an imagination a hospital.
And for sure, Erica's mother has in the past received treatments there.
Okay, I was able to determine that factually she had.
In fact, she went in for a treatment two days earlier on September 8th because people sent me records of that.
Now, didn't ask for them, they sent it, didn't ask anybody to violate HIPAA, whatever, but I can confirm she was there on September 8th.
Now, regarding the 10th, a very strange thing occurred.
So, we had put out an APB.
Anybody that can confirm this, I'm looking for anybody in the parking lot, somebody that works there, somebody that maybe works adjacent to it.
Please tell us.
Send us some tips, more tips at canisones.com.
And what we received was a flurry of text messages from various nurses and people who are friends and family of nurses who received these messages, who alleged initially you could see this orbit that Erica was at this place when she got the news that she had collapsed in the parking lot.
So, I thought, great, now I'm getting closer.
And in some of these messages, they said the nurses had to carry her inside.
But then when we pushed further, okay, we, you know, bit on the bait.
We kept finding that the story fell through the cracks, meaning that everyone involved had heard it from someone.
So you'd get a nurse, this nurse was there.
We'd prod that nurse, oh, no, no, actually, I've just followed up with her.
And now she's saying, here are the messages, that it was her other, her colleague nurse was there.
Okay, we find the colleague nurse.
This colleague nurse said this.
Oh, actually, also hers is not first person.
It's another nurse.
We were just going around in circles and kept pushing, going, everyone thinks another nurse saw it.
You know, did it happen or were they all told that it happened here?
And the more we pushed at long last, we had arrived at a more solidified story.
At least it appeared ostensibly like a more solidified story that actually they said, you know what?
Erica was there, but she was in a meeting with the lead doctor in his office.
Suddenly her mother had been completely removed from the story.
Nobody would confirm Lori in the story.
Now, the doctor in question, who I'm not going to name at this moment because we just went out with him because we feel confident in what we have been able to pull together, he and his wife are involved.
He's involved, I should say, via his wife in politics in a big way.
Federal politics, I would say.
And that is of some interest to me.
On the other side of things, they certainly, and I'm referring to him and his wife, told friends that Erica was in their office with a friend.
To be clear, not with her mother, but with a friend.
We also have a person who has come forward and they claimed that Erica was with her security guard, Derek Niekirk, when she got the news with her security guard.
And they were explicit she was not with her mother.
And lastly, we were given the name of a woman from Dassel, Minnesota.
Who has claimed that she and not Erica was with Lori when Lori got the news that her son in law had been shot?
Again, I would like to stress here that across all of these testimonies, Erica and Lori are not together.
I'm again going to also decline to name that woman in Minnesota because we have reached out now for comment.
Suffice it to say that when we combine all these testimonies, the common theme, the common denominator, if you will, is that Erica and Lori were apart on September 10th.
A couple of questions.
The doctor just said, You know, you could say you were here.
This will be an air packed alibi.
We will say, I own the office.
We're friends.
I definitely can establish some connections between Turning Point USA and his wife, where his wife works.
But, you know, that's one narrative that's running in my mind is did they just say, We'll say that's here and I will tell people, nurses, that you were here.
And that's how this all spread through wildfire, but no nurse was actually able to confirm that they themselves were there.
We'll start the rumor, if you will, that you were here.
That's one option.
And another option is she was actually there and not with her mother and with Derek Neekirk and in his office for some reason taking a meeting.
That's another option.
But I feel on the basis of the legwork that we have done and how far we have investigated this and the people that we have spoken to with intimate knowledge.
And of course, again, the lack of eyewitness to a woman collapsing in a parking lot on such a day that is eternally downloaded in all of our minds.
I feel it is very fair for me to state that I do not believe Erica was with her mother on that day.
I believe that was a part of a narrative.
That was pre sold to us and packaged beginning actually on September 8th with her post of her mother in a frail state.
We will keep pushing.
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Okay, lastly, I am going to check here and see.
I think we're running up on time.
I do want to honorably mention that Pambondi was fired.
Trump made the announcement on social media saying Pambondi is a great American patriot, a loyal friend who faithfully served as my attorney general over the past year.
Pam did a tremendous job overseeing a massive crackdown in crime across the country, with murders plummeting to their lowest level since 1900.
We love Pam, and she will be transitioning to a much needed and important new job in the private sector to be announced at a date in the near future.
And our deputy attorney general and a very talented and respected legal mind, Todd Blanch, will step in to serve as acting attorney general.
Thank you for your attention to this matter, President Donald J. Trump.
Okay.
Now, people I think initially thought this must be related to her fumbling the Epstein files so hard.
No, her and Trump are on the same team when it comes to the Epstein files.
Please do not put that on Pam Bondi.
Pam Bondi was doing as she was instructed to do by Trump, by Trump's orbit of friends who are all in the Epstein files.
And because if that was the case, Kash Patel would be gone too.
Under her watch and under Kash Patel's watch that the Epstein files got released.
And don't forget, because it kind of happened over Christmas, we never discussed it, that during that release, they even released a fake, a deep fake video of Jeffrey Epstein in his cell committing suicide.
Do you guys remember this?
This kind of was a blip because this all happened on December 23rd, a couple days before Christmas.
Most people were on break.
They released a fake video and they got clocked on the fake video and then they removed the fake video and refused to comment on it.
Yeah, because Jeffrey Epstein is clearly alive.
Okay.
He's a wake up.
He is alive.
There's an Israeli operation to get him out of there.
It's the reason why the New York Post had the exclusive photos in the story.
This New York Post, for all intents and purposes, just a Mossad outfit.
We then learn, actually, that the reason that Trump fired her is because he's upset with her because he believes that she is the one that tipped off Eric Swalwell regarding an investigation into his relationship.
You know, he was dating the Chinese spy girl.
And so, apparently, the FBI was sort of preparing.
A bunch of documents relating to his relationship with Christine Fang.
And she, Trump believes that she intervened and tipped him off, and he was angry with her.
So it's like, you're not loyal to me.
Even though she's like, hey, you know, I kind of backed you up on Jeffrey Epstein.
But you know how Trump is you're in or you're out.
And if you don't worship the ground he walks on and do everything he says, then you got to go.
So Trump needs a better dog, essentially.
And she, Is sleazy, obviously.
And so I don't know why he shocked you're all sleazy.
The whole everybody is sleazy post Epstein, but don't get excited, guys.
It certainly is not related to Trump doing the right thing.
Don't be confused and think that he did the right thing and realize that they fumbled the Epstein ball, even though that's how they're going to want to play it to the public, because the other part sounds much more petty.
And that's why it's buried deep in all of the articles about what happened with Eric Swalwell.
So I wanted you guys to know that everything is still tremendously fake and gay, and we are being ruled by elites.
People who deem themselves to be elites, but are actually kind of just deranged and disgusting.
So there is that.
We'll take a brief break before I get to some of your comments.
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That's why you want to know who killed her husband because you're jealous.
It's like, guys, you got to work on the messaging.
Also, then, like the clip going around of him, like reading his speech, being like, Charlie loved Erica very much.
I had such a chuckle about that because, in particular, Charlie was so good at maneuvering within the White House and, like, he always had an in with Trump's speechwriters.
We would tell them, please save his sentence.
Please save a sentence if there was something that he wanted to promote, like when we were promoting Blexit.
And so Trump did not write that, obviously.
The speechwriter did, which means somebody replaced Charlie, probably not him, maybe Stacey Sheridan or somebody, and was like, hey, could you put this in the speech?
Put in the speech that Charlie loved Erica.
And that's why he looks down on his paper, he's like, Charlie loved Erica very much.
Trump doesn't write his own speeches, guys.
Okay.
So that is highly embarrassing.
Highly embarrassing that you view something that should have so much substance as a talking point that will.
You know, somehow bear more weight if the president of the United States says it actually diminishes it.
It diminishes it.
That's not like you want Trump to mention your company.
You don't want Trump.
You shouldn't need Trump to say that your husband loved you.
That's weird.
It is so, everything is so backward and weird in terms of what they are doing.
Jens Hens writes, Candace, you are one of the few podcasters that I admire.
You speak your truth, even if it's not popular, and you call out nonsense despite backlash from low IQ outfits.
Your courage inspires me to bring more of that into my own life.
Bless you and happy Easter.
Yes, you guys, happy Easter.
He is risen.
And who is he?
Truth.
Christ is king.
He wins.
Czech Vino writes, Hey, Candace, compared to a subway knife psycho, Tim Dillon hears that and just cackles.
It's a real knife fight out here.
A friend of the show knows bring facts or bring a bigger blade.
Keep carving legends.
Yeah, I mean, I laughed so hard because he's just like so unhinged.
You could just tell he's very emotionally immature.
He's like always like bursting.
Somebody tweeted something so funny about his mannerisms, and I'm going to butcher it.
And I hate that I'm going to do that, but they were basically like, whenever he speaks, it's like a lie is like the lie is trying to escape him.
You know, like it's like he's like so uncomfortable.
He like jitters and like, he's like, the lie doesn't even want to be there.
And there it is.
And Blake really does have that demeanor.
He's like a child or something.
It's just strange to me.
Seven Sheets writes TPUSA understands that they cannot replace Charlie, a one of A kind innovator who led with authenticity, compassion, and transparency.
Notably, he saw that in you.
Not one comes close to filling the shoes of that man.
Happy Easter and God bless you.
Happy Easter.
And I so agree.
He led with authenticity and compassion and transparency and honesty.
You know, he was honest about himself, his flaws.
He did make mistakes.
It's so stupid that they're like trying to turn him into Are you saying that Charlie made mistakes all the time?
I argued with him about his mistakes.
He argues with me about mine.
We opened up to each other about our mistakes, our flaws.
He was a human being.
So it's so weird.
That's one of their strangest arguments.
Are you saying he could have hired someone?
That in the end stabbed him in the back.
Yeah.
$100 million coming.
Yeah, I'm saying that.
I am saying that.
Remember me as having said that.
Thank you.
So weird.
They're like, they're not even good at these like psychological games anymore.
Lauren Brown writes it's like watching the scene from Bridesmaids where she gives the toast to Erica's answer at the New York Times Book Summit.
It just goes on and on, my friends, 90s kids.
This is an answer that never ends.
It just goes on and on.
My friends, like she just keeps going.
I don't know if the PR was in the back, like, just shut up, just stop speaking.
Or if they were like, just like we told you, keep speaking, don't stop, they'll forget where they are.
Don't know.
Honestly, with Andrew Colvege, probably the latter.
Hot mess, mom writes, why was everyone talking about Charlie dying?
I remember a podcast of someone asking him what he wanted to be remembered for.
And he said, if I die, and he responded for his faith.
It was sketchy.
During the note from our producer, he said, during the Iced Coffee Hour podcast, he said, I want to be remembered for courage, for my faith.
That would be the most important thing.
The most important thing is my faith.
I do find it weird how much they are saying that Charlie thought about dying.
And then, like, when he actually the night before said, they're going to kill me, they were like, oh no, Charlie was great.
He was so excited.
No, never had that thought ever.
Like it just, there's just so many things that they say that conflict with one another.
I find it, like I said, to be based off of my own experience, of which I have a lot raising money with Turning Point USA.
I have a ton of experience raising money with Turning Point USA.
I have never heard that question asked from a donor ever.
Highly unusual, right?
And by the way, for the people that I read were at the event, they said what they remembered, which is much more logical, is that after Charlie gave his presentation, a donor, Woman from North Carolina asked him, That's a lot.
You're doing a lot.
You're planning on growing this way.
You're one person.
How are you going to do it all?
To which he then said something about Steve Jobs and how these people hire lieutenants who they trust.
And, like, you know, we hire people that are going to be able to take, you know, take control of different departments.
It's not just me.
I'm not just one guy.
I hire people that I trust.
Guess who he had not hired in that moment?
Erica.
So, how did we then jump to the edit of him saying, Erica?
Like, are they editing a joke he made a different time?
Put pressure on Turning Point USA to release this tape.
Everyone should do this.
Everyone should put pressure on Turning Point USA to release the tape as they promised, footage that they had.
Unseen footage.
Well, this is some footage that is unseen that we would like to save.
And I also want to tell you guys obviously, we're going off for a week.
We have tons to investigate if I will put out more APBs.
If you know anything about.
Erica's whereabouts on September 10th.
We want to hear from you.
More tips at CandaceOwens.com.
Lori's whereabouts on September 10th.
We think we're pretty close to nailing her down.
We still want to hear from you.
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And also want to honorably mention, like just when we went live, I heard about Judge Lehman throwing out an entire portion of Justin Baldoni's case, Blake Lively's case against him for sexual harassment.
And I'm having the best week ever.
What can I say?
I am having the best week ever.
I just have like, Extra sauce and glitter and balloons on me.
I am glowing this week.
I don't know what's happening, but this week is about me.
This should have been my birthday.
My birthday is not for weeks, but this should have been my birthday week.
I am so upset it wasn't because it feels like it.
I'm just racking up the wins, you know?
Strong week for Candace Owens supporters.
Justice ultimately being served.
You go, Justin Baldoni.
That is my cousin, you know, and he knows we're this close, guys, to getting the kombucha.
We are this close.
Did I tell you guys a fun update?
He's moving here to Tennessee.
I know why he's moving here.
No one has figured this out.
He's moving here because eventually he wants to get kombucha with me.
So, congratulations, Justin Baldoni.
The sexual assault claims were insane.
Women be crazy, yo.
That's been the theme of the last year.
Women be crazy, yo.
Very crazy, yo.
So crazy, yo.
But then be trying to manipulate and be like, oh, I'm a shad little puppy.
I would say Blake Lively was grieving differently too after her alleged sexual assault.
She was grieving differently by trying to take over a whole movie.
Seemed like women have been trying to stage some hostile takeovers as of late.
I'm just putting the pieces together.
Okay.
Women be crazy, yo.
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