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April 1, 2026 - Candace Owens
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Friends In High Temples: Charlie's Final Call With Bibi... | Candace Ep 320

Candace Owens investigates Charlie Kirk's assassination, linking Mitt Romney, Bibi Netanyahu, and the Qureshi family to a potential CIA plot via BYU's Jerusalem Center. She details how Built Incorporated secured $7M in DoD contracts before the murder, while criticizing the FBI's flawed bullet lead analysis and Turning Point Action's rapid fundraising pivot. The episode alleges war profiteering by private equity firms opposed to Kirk's Iran stance, suggesting social engineering toward Israel support, before concluding with a week-long break focused on "Romney land." [Automatically generated summary]

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candace owens
And All right, you guys, happy Wednesday.
Decades of Close Friendship 00:04:02
candace owens
I'm going to start the show by letting you know that there is a friendship that you need to know about a very close friendship, one that has spanned across decades.
The friendship goes back to 1976.
That's very sweet, actually.
I don't know many people that can say they've been friends with someone for over 50 years, but these two men can.
They go way back to Boston where the two of them worked together.
I mean, these two men, some might say, are ride or die, maybe even an emphasis on the die.
Do you guys know who I'm referring to?
Don't worry because I'm about to tell you.
Welcome back to Candace.
All right, you guys, this is Baron Coleman often says on his show that it's a high IQ outfit.
You can't watch Baron Coleman's show unless you're high IQ.
I have to extend that to tonight's show.
You need notebooks.
This is an AP class.
This is now advanced placement, okay?
This is advanced placement, Candace's podcast.
So, one of the things that I have been perpetually haunted by, and I've explained this to you many times, is that final phone call that Charlie had with BB Netanyahu.
The one that took place in the Hamptons, the one that nobody, while they were offering these long winded tweets explaining that we didn't do nothing, tweets that were overseen by lawyers and PR agents.
No one wanted to address Bibi Netanyahu's call.
Charlie described it, as I told you, as an intervention over the topic of Israel.
Bibi offered, as I said, to take Turning Point to the next level.
And what troubles me is not knowing the answer in exchange for what.
I mean, how much money would it take to bring an organization that is already pulling in $100 million per year to the next level?
And also, where was this money going to come from?
How are they going to generate that sort of an income?
How could they know they were going to make that kind of money?
I have an idea.
That it may have been guaranteed from like war, war profiteering, war in Iran, particularly the issue that BB and Charlie were butting heads about.
War, as I told you a couple of days ago, is a big business, not just a big business, the biggest business on earth.
And it's also a overtly political business.
Next thing we know, Charlie is dead.
Turning Point USA is trying to twist and reimagine his legacy.
As pro war in the Middle East, war in Iran, and Bibi is doing the most, right?
Bibi is doing the rounds saying, I didn't kill him immediately when no one initially thought that he killed him until he said he didn't kill him.
Then we thought, Did you kill him?
It wasn't me, he said.
But of course, as we thought further, I couldn't establish a connection between Bibi Netanyahu and Utah, right?
Israel and Utah.
Even though, as I began prodding the narrative of the Egyptian plains, it was revealed to me that there clearly is a connection.
To Israel and Utah.
But why?
How is this working?
What's Bibi got to do with Provo?
Does he have anything to do with Provo?
Something was clearly missing.
And then that something presented itself in the form of this lifelong friendship.
Now, it would be difficult for me to overstate to you just how close Bibi Netanyahu is to Mitt Romney.
Yeah, that Mitt Romney, the former senator of Utah, the one time presidential nominee who ran against Barack Obama, the co founder and the former CEO of Bain Capital.
I mean, frankly, if I wanted to, I could do an entire series on his 50 year friendship with Bibi Netanyahu, their intense political support for one another, counseling to one another, a friendship which began, like I told you, back in 1976 when they were both working for the Boston Consulting Group.
Hospital and Police Clarified 00:08:07
candace owens
I mean, look, I'll just show you this quickly.
This article in the New York Times back in 2012 says a friendship dating to 1976 resonates in 2012.
And that is about, and it goes in, and you should read it about their remarkable friendship.
Now, Let's just keep that there.
I want you to park that in the back of your mind.
Romneys are a very powerful family in Utah.
And I want you to park that information in the back of your mind, A, because I just can't believe I forgot it.
It was somewhere, you know, somewhere in a database, but it just kind of evaded me for a bit.
But as we go forward, this information is going to become increasingly relevant as we revisit various aspects regarding certain individuals on September 10th that we had mentioned.
Let's at first go back to the hospital.
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Okay.
candace owens
I'm told actually it's pronounced Timpanogos.
Okay.
Timpanogos Hospital.
It is, it's always been very strange to me, the setting.
Increasingly strange to me that we have no eyewitnesses inside of the hospital regarding September 10th.
I mean, just randos that should be in the ER lobby, right?
All of Turning Point, the staff that was there that day went over to the lobby.
Not everybody went into the back, but they were there.
We're talking about an emergency room.
People go there all the time.
Your kid breaks and everyone's racing in the emergency room.
I'm not saying it needs to be like totally packed, but I'm saying there should just be a few strays hanging around.
That can tell me something about it.
And as I reflect six months later, it's almost as if the emergency room had been completely cleared for Turning Point USA.
We'll never know, of course, because when Kash Patel arrived, he had the FBI immediately seize the footage from inside the hospital.
What a bizarre priority, right?
Makes no sense.
You got a manhunt, you're in the midst of a manhunt.
Why would you grab footage of where Charlie was brought inside?
I think if I was on Tyler Robinson's defense, I would probably want that footage.
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Yeah.
candace owens
I'd say you have that.
I'd like to see it.
Anyway, journalist Elizabeth Lane, that's the one who has been positing that Erica Kirk is a psychopath.
She did another long post the other day on X, and she was actually a journalist that was on the ground that day.
She went to Utah Valley Hospital and she sent her colleague over to Timpanogos, and they were just staging outside, waiting for something to happen.
And she was sort of remarking about how odd it was that they had locked down both hospitals, something that I brought up to you, right?
They locked down both hospitals.
The excuse that was given to the public was because the shooter was going from hospital to hospital looking for Charlie Kirk.
But you know what?
That's never actually been clarified.
Who exactly were they referring to?
What we do know is that shortly after that came over, the police scanner might be going from hospital to hospital.
They moved to detain a young man named Zachariah Qureshi.
We almost forget, but it was after Zachariah was detained.
That Kash Patel rather gloriously issued a tweet which effectively ended the manhunt prematurely.
In many ways, we should start to think of Zachariah Qureshi as decoy boy number two.
Okay, first, it was George Zinn, jumped up and down immediately and said, I did it, I did it.
He would later tell people at Utah Valley, where he was being treated, that he was paid to do that.
I wonder if the FBI is interested in that tidbit that I have said on the show.
And I'm telling you, that's what happened.
That was the first time that the responding police officers who said they felt like they were intentionally being sent all around.
Were sent essentially off of the trail of the true assassin.
But next came the public declaration from our director of the FBI, which held a lot more weight, claiming officially that they had the guy.
He wrote this at 4 21 p.m. Mountain Standard, so almost exactly four hours to the minute that Charlie was shot.
Kash Patel authored this tweet The subject for the horrific shooting today that took the life of Charlie Kirk is now in custody.
Thank you to the local and state authorities in Utah for your partnership with the FBI.
We will provide updates when able.
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Okay.
candace owens
Well, you imagine if you are a responding police officer and you see that the director of FBI has tweeted that, you just stop looking.
Anything that looks shady, you don't care.
It doesn't matter.
I guess it's over.
We got him.
Great.
Great news.
And that's how it stayed for an hour and a half.
Kash Patel's mistake provided the true assassin or the assassins an hour and a half buffer to get away.
Police wrapping up.
No reason to continue looking, right?
Until finally at 5 59 p.m., he clarified, he announced on X that, oh, Never mind.
Here's what he said.
The subject in custody has been released after an interrogation by law enforcement.
Our investigation continues, and we will continue to release information in the interest of transparency.
Well done, Cash.
Well done.
Again, no further information was provided as to why this particular individual was detained in the first place.
Who is this guy?
Who is Zachariah Hureshi?
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I wondered.
candace owens
Also, is there any chance, it's crazy, but is there any chance there's going to be another military connection?
Well, apparently, I'm a little late to the party because I was talking to Baron Coleman this weekend, and he's like, Yeah, I did an episode on Zachariah Qureshi.
You should check that out.
And I would say this to you guys that you're not going to believe this, but you probably will.
You probably will actually believe this.
Zach's father, Zachariah's father, is actually an 06 in the military.
You remember that term?
I was getting familiar with it.
I fumbled over my words.
Mitch Snow, he said he saw this meeting conclude.
With a bunch of 05s and 06s coming out of Fort Huachuca.
Well, Ahmed Qureshi, that is Zachariah's father, he is an 06 in the Navy.
That means he's a commanding officer.
That's the equivalent to a colonel in the Air Force.
And he has extensive ties to the Middle East as well, I might add.
You might have gathered that from his name.
But let's take a look at Ahmed's LinkedIn because it is relevant.
Again, this is decoy boy number two's dad.
Okay, let's check this out.
It lists Ahmed first and foremost, as you can see here.
As the president and COO of Built Incorporated, which is based in Dallas, Fort Worth, Texas.
I just want to honorably mention here that Texas seems to be a very common theme in this investigation.
I think by now we all suspect, given the planes traveling that day, also the planes the day before from Fort Huachuca, that there may be a Texas play in Charlie Kirk's assassination, just like there was a Texas play in JFK's assassination, I might add.
The CIA ran that operation out of Texas.
Anyway, what does Built Incorporated do?
That's interesting, right?
It tells us that the award winning Built app provides 3D interactive and XR immersive intelligent instructions that are voice and text guided.
Beginning with a product overview, Built includes tools that are required, parts included, and gently directs the procedures step by step.
So we have some sort of an intelligence app that is 3D and immersive that can be used.
Okay, so what does that mean?
And more importantly, What does it mean in the context of a man who has spent 26 plus years in the military?
Again, Ahmed Qureshi is currently a commanding officer in the military.
We can see that by clicking through to his profile.
He's an 06, which means he's not a small cheese, okay?
Right there on his profile, it lets us know that he is the commanding officer, the headquarters of the East Coast.
I don't know what the RC stands for, Continental US.
It tells us he's a captain and that he.
Military Background Revealed 00:10:32
candace owens
You know, it has all the dates here from May 2024 to present.
You can see he's been in 06 for a while.
Previously, he was in 05.
Now, since the military is not a past life, but a current lifer, Ahmed, we can assume that whatever he's doing for Bilt does not conflict with his job in the military.
In fact, we can further assume that Bilt is somehow related to his job in the military because his LinkedIn also informs us that Ahmed co founded Bilt back in 2015 when he was full time as an 05.
So, Bilt's been a company for a decade.
And you should know that this company receives funding from the Department of Defense, contracts from the Department of Defense.
And curiously enough, BILT received a large injection of cash, over $7 million, to be more exact, at a very interesting time.
And I'm going to let Baron Coleman explain to you their curious pattern of federal funding that came in for BILT from its inception to today.
Take a listen.
baron coleman
This is the company that Zachariah Qureshi's father works for.
This is built.
I'm getting this directly off of USA Spending, right?
USA Spending has all the federal expenditures that they can legally put up here.
Are on here to contractors.
This is built.
They get a, their first little contract is a $50,000 contract way back in 2019.
2019, they just get a little $50,000 contract, got a three month pop, period of performance, just three months, $50,000, but it gets them going, right?
They're off the ground running.
Then they get this next contract here, and it's big, $3.1 million.
This $3.1 million contract was all the way back in 2020.
So after that, we're going to show you here the timeline just because it'll get you there.
After 2020, we've got a series of contracts here that frankly just aren't that big.
I mean, they're big.
They're big for like a single family income, but if you're trying to run a business, they're not huge.
We've got $185,000.
We've got $49,000.
But we get this big $3.1 million contract way back in 2020.
And then we got just a series over the next few years of smaller contracts.
This little 1 million, but again, nothing major, nothing crazy until this one.
Boom, 4.9, 2.4.
Well, when the hell were these contracts?
When were these contracts?
I'll tell you what, I'll be really suspicious if these contracts were in the planning phases of the Charlie Kirk event at Utah Valley University.
I'll be really suspicious because we said the Utah Valley University event was probably beginning to be planned around June.
The exiting of Charlie Kirk from this mortal plane, we believe, we estimated, based on our investigation, started around March or April and really heated up in June and July.
So, when were these massive $7.5 million worth of contracts on a company who had not had.
Much more than one single contract of any value in the previous four or five years.
When was this one?
Let's look here.
It's these, I'll make it the top two lines.
Let's look together and see when these two contracts were.
Oh, June 1 and June 16 of 2025.
June 1 and June 16 of 2025.
candace owens
And also the top one is.
Well, I can show you here on the website that he, the BILT, was awarded that money from the Department of Defense, particularly from the Air Force.
The majority came in from the Air Force 7.4 million from the Air Force and just under a quarter million from the Navy, bringing the total actually closer to $8 million that came in to them in June of this year.
And it's about to get even more interesting.
This is me building on what Barron researched, and I wish I had seen this earlier, because Ahmed, remember, Zachariah's dad, he's listed as a co founder of Build.
Who did he co found this with?
Who's his business partner?
Who's the other half of this intelligence app that got a nice injection of cash from the Air Force in June?
That would be a man named Nathan Henderson.
And don't worry, guys, I, of course, will have a graphic for you at the end so you can screenshot and save it and study it and it will look really clean because it's very significant that you know these names.
Because when I learned that Nathan Henderson was the co founder, I suddenly realized that there was a weird crossover.
Because I had looked into Zachariah Qureshi and I remembered the name Nathan Henderson living in the same house as him.
Like they were all living in the same house down in Keller, Texas, both the Henderson family and the Qureshi family.
Now, it's possible.
The business owned the company, vacation rent.
I don't know.
I mean, they do live in Texas.
It's also possible maybe the Hendersons sold the house to the Qureshis or vice versa.
But what is not up for debate is that both families were living in the same house down in Keller, Texas.
And that Nathan Henderson, the co founder, is married to a woman named Gina Romney.
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Okay?
candace owens
Gina Romney Henderson is relevant because she too works at the Built Corporation.
She's the vice president of their user experience.
You can see that here on her LinkedIn.
And they also have a son, a young man named Connor Henderson.
Connor went to the same school at the same time as Zachariah Qureshi's.
So their sons go to school together.
To put it to you another way, the co founders of the built company who lived in the same house and work at the same place also sent their sons to the same school at the same time, BYU.
unidentified
Okay.
candace owens
They graduated within a year of one another.
And their sons both interned at the built company.
Now, my suspicion is that Connor and Zachariah probably know each other, and you're never going to guess where Connor was working this summer, right?
Connor had been working as an emergency room department scribe.
I can confirm.
Go ahead.
Timpanogus.
Timpanogus emergency room.
unidentified
Okay.
candace owens
Now, in case you are unaware of what an emergency room scribe does, they are essentially the physician's personal assistant in charge of taking notes and handling.
The charting and clerical work for the doctors and that emergency setting.
That was Connor's job from 2024 until, and that's only if his LinkedIn is to be believed, just before Charlie's assassination or maybe even just after Charlie's assassination.
I'm wondering.
I'm wondering if he actually quits on September 10th.
I'm wondering if he was working beneath Dr. Lee Trotter.
It's a lead that should be pursued.
Anyway, it's time to show you guys a nice clean chart since we are pulling together a lot of new names.
It will help you visually see.
These connections to the built corporation, uh, built incorporated, pardon.
So, you can see this also.
I should mention Gina Romney also went to BYU.
BYU keeps coming up, and I'm about to drop some bombshells for you about BYU's connection to Israel in particular.
Anyways, uh, do you know what regarding Miss Gina Romney?
I have to tell you guys that is the third time in this investigation that the Romney name has come up.
I hadn't spoken about it before.
Because I just thought, well, it's the Romney family.
They're big in Utah.
That's not that weird until I realized how close Mitt Romney was to Bibi Netanyahu.
And I just found myself wondering, you know, if they talked about Charlie at all after he was really frustrated with Charlie over the Iran war.
I found myself wondering.
And then I realized that all of these connections to the Romney, I should probably share with you.
And this very weird connection to BYU in particular.
You're going to be shocked at what I learned about BYU.
And I'm not going to say allegedly in this next portion because I know it for a fact.
We're going to talk about.
The CIA and what they have to do with that Utah University when we get back from a brief break.
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Flawed Analysis Exposed 00:12:04
candace owens
I see a lot of you guys in the chat noting that Tyler Robinson looks a lot like Connor.
That was something that Baron pointed out, and people that watched his episode have pointed out as well.
I'm just showing you factual pictures of the players, and I will leave it at the facts.
Now, a fact is that the Romneys are an exceedingly powerful family in Utah.
Okay.
I am talking generational power.
Romney grew up with a silver spoon in his mouth, an extraordinary amount of wealth.
Everybody knows that.
You speak to any person that lives in Utah, they will tell you that.
And they're also extraordinarily powerful in Mexico as well, because there was a Mormon colony that moved down there.
And yeah, just put that in the back of your mind.
Like I said, the Romney names come up in my research a few times, just like Texas was coming up in my research a few times.
And so we have the Qureshis, the Hendersons that are coming out of Texas.
Our planes are coming out of Texas.
So Did I should mention, and here's where it gets interesting our brand spanking new CEO of Timpanogos.
Don't think I forgot about Andrew Zenger.
Remember, he was appointed the CEO of Timpanogos just ahead of Charlie's assassination.
It was August 19th.
And curiously enough, before that, he was down in Texas.
He had previously been working down in McKinney, Texas, as the COO of Medical City.
Which is north of Dallas.
I know Texas is big, but man, yanked and brought back up there.
Yeah, that's what they did, just like I said, ahead of September 10th.
Now, of course, Andrew Zenger, just like Qureshi and Henderson and our Gina Romney, he attended BYU.
And it really made me wonder what the heck goes on at BYU?
And fortunately, someone told me.
Again, I am not saying allegedly here.
So, you can take this to the bank.
BYU has direct ties to the CIA.
They recruit directly from BYU.
And I am saying this with 100% certainty.
It is not a conspiracy.
And what is even more odd is that they recruit specifically from BYU Jerusalem in Israel, which is exactly where Andrew Zenger attended school.
He lived in Jerusalem.
And I'm now going to tell you.
That BYU, the Jerusalem Center, this person told me, is where the elite of the Mormon culture, the cream of the pie, they get introduced to one another.
It's where the elite Mormon youth are introduced to also the Nesset, okay?
Hollywood culture, political culture, and where many of them, Are then approached in Jerusalem, Israel, by their teachers, who I should mention the director of the program is Israeli, to work for the CIA.
Could you imagine being approached to work for the CIA in Jerusalem by Israelis?
Notice, again, I am not saying allegedly here, I know this for a fact.
I cannot be sued for this, this is factual.
Andrew Zenger was out there, and he was out there, I should mention, during Mitt Romney presidential election season.
He was also good friends with a guy named Jeffrey Knuckles, who was out there as well, who later served as an advisor to the Romney campaign.
He was also friendly, and a person that was out there was a guy named Caleb Cunningham, who was also an activist that worked for the campaign.
Him, Caleb, and his brother were actually out there in Jerusalem.
I want to again make it clear I am not shooting in the dark with this.
In fact, I can tell you specifically what the name is of the company that the CIA uses.
To bring some of this youth talent on board, they specifically use a company, and this will trigger them if they're watching, called Metro One Talent.
Metro One Talent.
That's how they interview their talent and set them on the path to joining the CIA.
Now, there's one more person who is tied to this clan.
It's very strange.
Why are we recruiting?
The question is Was Andrew Zenger recruited?
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Okay.
candace owens
Was Andrew Zenger recruited?
I am telling you that his roommates were.
He's got a roommate who did contract work, went on to do contract work for the CIA as well.
He, for the CIA's Department of Education, I didn't even know the CIA had Department of Education.
I actually want to find that person's name just so you understand.
I have this as an absolute fact.
What was this guy's name?
Because I always switch it with his grandfather.
I want to make sure, pull this guy's name up, who was Andrew Zengler's roommate who went on to work for the CIA.
Yes, Michael Sean Covey.
That is correct.
Sorry, Michael, to put you on blast, but yeah, he contracts with the CIA.
It's very interesting.
And he, I think, writes books.
It's very interesting.
It's a tangle.
So you're rooming together.
Is it a fair question?
Is it a fair question to ask if Andrew Zenger was like his roommates over in Jerusalem, recruited to work contractually for the CIA?
It's interesting.
Now, there is one more person who is tied to the Romney clan who also went to BYU, and we brought him up very early in the investigation.
I was one of the first people that I put an APB out for because he was bizarrely standing alongside Shane Lyman.
Remember, we learned like Phil Lyman's whole family owned that block.
You know, the cameras of people walking, they were all tied to Caldera Engineering, walking down the block.
I don't even think that's Tyler Robinson.
Looks to me much more like Lance.
And Phil Lyman's nephew andor cousin.
Phil Lyman says it's a cousin.
Shayner says he's a nephew, but he and some friends uniquely traced the steps of the killer and showed people this is the footprint.
This is, look, he was here.
This was on our property that this happened.
Let's see those Instagram posts to jog your memory.
You remember, Robbie Hilt.
And I thought, I said, he's got way, he looks, the guy all the way to the right there looks way more to me like the build of the person coming up the stairs.
That was the episode that we did.
Who are these people?
We asked.
Why is Robbie Hild?
Why are they posting like they have exclusive access?
What are the chances that this happened?
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Look, the footprint.
candace owens
That footprint is mentioned in the document, Jester.
The footprint.
It wouldn't be hard to make a footprint.
Just take someone's shoe and do that.
Anyways, like I said early on, I put on that APB.
I put out that APB for Robbie Hild because we couldn't find his name at the time.
And then we did.
And I learned from viewers at home that his family is allegedly married into the Romney family.
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Okay.
candace owens
Now, I cannot find a document where I put this together and put all the information of how Robbie Hild was married into the Romney family.
I know across social media they were involved, the campaign.
I need to now reestablish that connection.
So, I will again, because it seems I accidentally deleted that email.
If you know how the Hild family is related to the Romney family, please email us at moretipscandaceowens.com.
Because that would be a stunning connection.
Like I said, my memory serves me correctly that there was a connection between these two families that was established early on that I thought nothing of.
And now it matters.
But what we know for certain is, like I said, Robbie, he also went to BYU and he played lacrosse.
He appears to have graduated around 2020.
And I will leave it at that.
But the investigation into Robbie Hild is now opened again.
Now, I'm going to transition here because there's so much more that I have learned about how the CIA is paying these people, how they are approaching these people.
You're not going to believe me, but the Sears company is also involved.
And like I said, some people who are in the deep state are freaking out right now.
They're freaking out because I've said Metro One Talent, I'm bringing up Sears, and I'm not saying allegedly.
Like I said, I'm not saying allegedly.
Someone has come forward with proof of that, and you can take all this information to the bank.
But it's interesting that so many Romney campaign people during the time that his campaign was going on this is like 2011 when Andrew Zenger's there, and you've got advisors and all these people are stationed in Jerusalem.
Was BB helping his friend?
He certainly supported his friend.
It's 50 years.
Like brothers, I imagine.
Anyway, yesterday to add, and this is going to be an ongoing investigation.
This is part of the reason why we're going to do next week off.
I told you we'll be taking six weeks on and one week off because this stuff requires so much research and investigation, and the team just needs to rest and receive emails.
But I do want to mention one more thing to you about this obvious patsy setup with Tyler Robinson.
Yesterday, we had mentioned to you that the FBI is bringing back a flawed technique.
Out of retirement, in this sort of desperate bid to connect Tyler Robinson's weapon to the alleged bullet that was used to kill Charlie Kirk.
I forgot to tell you, however, that when they first began that technique, you're never going to guess when they started that technique, which ended up being flawed and unscientific.
Check out this headline in the Washington Post from 2007 FBI's forensic test is full of holes.
The article goes on to say the science, which is known as comparative bullet lead analysis, was first used after President John F. Kennedy's assassination.
In 1963, the technique used chemistry to link crime scene bullets to ones that were possessed by suspects on the theory that each batch of lead had a unique elemental makeup.
In 2004, however, the nation's most prestigious scientific body concluded that variations in the manufacturing process rendered the FBI's testimony about the science unreliable and potentially misleading.
Specifically, the National Academy of Sciences said that decades of FBI statements to jurors.
Linking a particular bullet to those found in a suspect's gun or cartridge box were so overstated that such testimony should be considered misleading under the federal rules of evidence.
A year later, the Bureau abandoned the analysis.
So, the FBI came up with the road chemistry because they needed to match a bullet in the JFK case.
Oh my gosh.
It's just so amazing.
It's amazing that they're bringing that back because Charlie is just lucky, I guess.
Lucky that they're getting back into chemistry.
Flawed technique.
We're going to use it.
Don't worry.
The ATF says it's inconclusive, which is the best they could do.
But we needed to do this in 63.
And we're going to do it again, and kind of maybe all the same players are involved because we all know who killed JFK.
And it wasn't Lee Oswald Harvey and flawed analysis.
And we're going to keep speaking about that flawed analysis that the FBI is now going to try to use because it's ridiculous.
They know Tyler Robinson didn't do it.
Now, speaking of the last name Robinson, I should mention that Robinson is also a last name, and that's why we will be taking a week off next week, is a last name that.
The Romney family is married into doesn't necessarily mean there is a tie.
It's just interesting.
Certainly, the Hild family is married into the Robinsons as well.
And so, we need to become pretty much genealogists and trace everything and all of the connections.
Real Ingredients Matter 00:04:09
candace owens
And I certainly know, I recall that the Farnsworth family, which also has a ton of the Farnsworth, Tara Farnsworth, take down the camera family, similarly was a part of sort of the Mormon tribe that went down to Chihuahua, Mexico because polygamy was illegalized.
And the backstory is legalized in.
The United States.
And so they said, fine, we'll go start our own colony in Mexico, Chihuahua, Mexico.
And that's where they went.
And I know the Farnsworth family and the Romney family were part of the families that went down there.
And so I need to do a lot of research now with a little more focus on these family ties, family ties that could potentially matter in a really big way.
Really makes you wonder what, you know, when I said that war is a massive industry and that Charlie stepped on people's toes who trade on war.
Who do real estate deals before the wars even start?
When Charlie put his foot down and said to Trump, do not go to war with Iran, how many players were involved?
How many private equity firms wanted Charlie gone?
Again, that's a rhetorical question, but I'm interested.
And this provides us with a new angle.
And like I said, the Egyptian planes kept telling me the story that every time there was like a kerfluffle in Israel, a little war, people are bombing Israel.
Suddenly, these Egyptian planes were carrying someone from Israel to Provo.
And my sense was this is Bibi.
This is Bibi hiding in Provo.
But I was like, who does Bibi know in Provo?
Why would he be in Utah?
Again, we will show you all of that.
I've been very meticulous about this Egyptian plane spreadsheet.
And now this is locking in.
He's got a friend.
He's got a friend in Utah.
If it is Bibi, I'm not saying it is, but I'm saying there's a lot of evidence that these planes are in sync with the pattern of when there's bombing campaigns happening toward Israel.
Got to get the number one guy out of there.
You'd be pretty safe in Provo.
They've got a whole underground city in Provo.
More on that later.
But I wanted to introduce these themes to you because I think they are stunning and I think they are relevant.
And I do believe that they mean something.
These ties mean something, they don't mean nothing, at least.
We'll be right back after a brief break.
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Truth About The 33 Club 00:14:30
candace owens
Special shout out goes to President Donald Trump, who today had their little Easter celebration.
Erica Kirk was in attendance and he suggested, oh, he didn't suggest, he told her.
He should sue people that are making fun of her because they're jealous of her.
It's like how far they fall, you know, how far they fall.
He's like fully Jewish now, I think, you know, like he's just like, it's all of the Israelis.
Sue if your feelings are hurt, sue, sue.
That's like, I think Ben Shapiro to the show.
She should sue her.
Anyway, we should watch that clip of what Trump said.
unidentified
Take a listen.
donald j trump
I'm delighted to join the countless.
Christians across the country and around the world as we prepare to celebrate a thing called Happy Easter.
Do we have that?
Everyone happy?
Anybody that doesn't want hello, darling.
Wow, this is a good table.
I like that table.
You're doing well, right?
unidentified
Okay.
donald j trump
I think you should sue them, but, you know.
I told her, you ought to sue somebody.
They're so jealous of Erica.
I said, you ought to sue them.
I can say, you're not allowed to say this.
You have to be nicer.
Sue their ass off.
But I want to thank all of those who are helping us honor Holy Week here.
candace owens
What a way to honor Holy Week.
unidentified
Sue them.
candace owens
Sue them.
Everybody's just jealous of you.
It's like there's something that's just so middle school about this.
It's no, we want to know who killed Charlie Kirk.
So could you park aside the lawyers and get information for us, Trump?
No, you can't do that, can you?
unidentified
Right?
candace owens
You obviously can't do that.
You know, if you're going to sue somebody, maybe people that are in the Epstein files, A good reason to sue is like getting away with raping kids for decades and protecting them because of who they are.
unidentified
Yeah.
candace owens
Maybe somebody in the 33 Club should be sued.
You're going to sue Drewski.
You're going to sue us for knowing that they're lying about everything, for keeping track of their lies.
By the way, I would like to keep reminding you that most of us welcome a lawsuit because then they would be required to give us the information that we're asking for.
That would be great.
It would be required to provide the information so there's no more guessing.
We don't have to guess, we can demand.
We can do exactly what Tyler Robinson's defense is doing, saying, How did you get this technology?
We'd like to see the literal receipts.
What was the chain of custody?
The reason you should never sue.
Which is just some advice is if truth is not on your side, because it will come out eventually.
It'll be painstaking.
Because the easiest thing to do, if truth is on your side, is just answer the questions.
Hand your phones over.
Do a long sit down, right?
Publicly.
Do it for the public.
And they're not going to do that, right?
It's just, we're powerful.
We have money.
Scott Besson can issue letters on the spot and say they're great.
Look, we're at the White House celebrating Easter.
unidentified
That's power.
candace owens
There is no true power.
Without truth.
And that's what they're learning.
This is a lesson that they're learning.
It is just a figment of your imagination if you don't have truth on your side.
It's an illusion.
And it's very easy to cut through that illusion with truth.
And so they're mad.
They're big mad.
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We have from top comments from last episode Mark Wilding wrote, This is regarding Terrell Farnsworth, the guy taking a chair from a crime scene to stand on to mess around with the camera, also part of a crime scene that a man was murdered in moments before, was the first moment that I realized that Effery was a foot.
Yeah, and I'll tell you, we never really switched from that foot, did we?
unidentified
Right?
candace owens
Which is like, as soon as we saw that, we were like, that's weird.
But then maybe there's an answer for it.
And then Terrell was all crazy on the phone.
I was like, no, something ain't right.
That was weird.
I spoke to Erica.
Why did you speak to Erica about like the behind of his head footage?
It's weird.
It's like a couple days after Charlie died.
I feel like there's nothing else going on.
What are your guys' priorities right now?
Kale Miles writes, I think they should make those 600,000 documents public.
Let us sort through them.
Great advice for Tyler Robinson's defense.
They can get them over to Ian Carroll.
He's got a website that is capable of doing that.
You can release them to the public.
I will promise you, we will be the army of paralegals that will go through these documents because we got some questions.
Me, especially, I've got some questions.
I will go through every single one of those documents if you give them to me for free.
You do not need to pay me.
This matters to me.
I want to know the answers to the questions that I have that are not being answered by the Epstein class.
unidentified
We just sue.
candace owens
We just sue people who know how disgusting we are.
It's just enough money.
We have enough money to be deceitful.
The reason we lie is because we're rich and we can.
We have lawyers that make it okay.
And you don't, peasants.
Well, like I said, we have truth on our side.
And that seems to be enough because you guys sound a little bit nervous.
Comments regarding today's episode Yoshi writes, who uses a photo of a grieving widow walking out on stage in her sparkle suit to a show of fireworks in a direct mail plea for more donations?
Talking about Turning Point and the CEO, Erica, do apparently.
Didn't expect to feel so shocked and disgusted.
Opening the mail today.
It's so not normal.
I did hear this.
They've sent some mailers around and it's her walking out the sparklers at the funeral, I think.
And people find it to be very strange.
Also, somebody sent me, because like I said, I was in the haze in the day after Charlie was assassinated, but I did not realize how quickly Turning Point, like 48 hours later, sent out text messages.
It was like, Hi, I'm Erica.
And for Charlie's legacy, please give.
It was so the ick what I had reading this to switch the gears so quickly into how can we fundraise off of this.
It's just.
Dishonorable.
That's what it is.
It's dishonorable.
007 writes they eliminated the Ron Paul threat at Romney's 2012 convention with a fake floor vote, changing the delegate rule.
2012 is when Charlie Kirk fell in love with free markets and liberty.
Ron Paul took to campuses and almost stole the party platform.
Does that sound familiar?
And my producer has a note that the RNC altered the convention rules to bind delegates in future elections to vote for the candidate who wins their state's primary caucus or caucus.
The RNC also refused to recognize Paul's delegates from Maine.
You know, it's funny because I have to go back because I wasn't in politics then.
And so I'm having to remind myself of all of these scandals and what they mean and like what Bing Capital does.
And aren't they kind of Tied into the war profiteering system.
I don't know.
Again, I need to now go back and revisit all of these things, which is why next week we really want to focus on that.
It feels, like I said, very relevant.
I missed the friendship of Romney.
Utah is like his state.
It's his state.
Like I said, if you speak to people in the LDS community, they will tell you that how powerful the Romney family is.
And they're actually not well liked.
I'll also add that as well.
They're considered remarkably corrupt, according to people familiar with them.
I'm not saying they are corrupt.
I'm saying that they don't have a nice reputation, does not follow them, certainly.
Beckbuild writes, Thank you, Candace, for all of your hard work.
Thanks to your team, too.
And on another topic, thanks for avoiding the F word.
Could we ask Ian Carroll to lighten up on the F word?
I could share his content more to my Christian friends.
Thank you, Ian Carroll.
Please lighten up on the F word so that Beckbuild can share his content more to his Christian friends.
It's a good thing.
You know, we're at the end of Lent here.
Something you could give up.
We should make him do a late Lent, which we can't really do, but I could make him give that up for a month.
I'm going to text him.
And see how he feels about it.
And we'll make him do something if he slips up.
We'll make him pay me.
We'll sue him.
We will sue Ian Carroll every time he says the F word.
I think that's a good idea.
Amaramusa writes Dr. Stephen Jones, a physicist at BYU, published a study in 2009 proving advanced thermite based explosives in abundance in the dust from ground zero on 9 11.
BYU is divided.
Yeah, I am certainly not saying that everyone who goes to BYU.
Is in the CIA.
I am saying they pluck from students and their Hawaii campus in particular.
Again, I'll have more information for you on this.
They pull people out of the pool of Hawaii and in Jerusalem in particular, they approach students because they are the cream of the crop of the Mormon pie that go there and they approach them about working for the CIA.
And that can be in Hollywood, in movies, that can be in politics, but that actually happens.
And that was happening when Andrew Zenger was over there.
So it is a fair question to ask if Andrew Zenger.
Works in some capacity or has worked with the CIA doing contract work for them?
It's a fair question to ask, and I'm asking it.
Libby Vargas writes I joined the book club and I started at Chaos.
The first episode gave me chills.
It feels like your investigation started then.
What you spoke is what you're living now.
David with his sling, unaware of Goliath, God bless.
Wow, I didn't even appreciate that.
Yeah, when I was reading Chaos, it was like that.
It's like, oh, this is what we were told.
Demand some murders.
This is what the narrative was.
They were like, wait, but everything did not happen that way.
It's like the opposite.
And then, like, behind this, it's this CIA apparatus and This is clearly like all CIA and with the purpose of socially engineering society towards some goal.
And yeah, similarly here, what was the goal?
To socially engineer us remarkably and ironically toward support for Israel.
He died his very last breath.
Shabbat Shalom.
I love Israel.
He had just written me this letter about how much he loved Israel.
He was just about to come.
He spent his whole life fighting for Israel.
Don't forget that.
As you march forward, don't forget how much Charlie loved Israel.
That was the vibe, which made us go.
Something ain't right because they're lying.
They're lying about what he was going through.
He was under immense pressure and he was done.
As he wrote, as he said, he was done with the pro Israel cause.
He abandoned.
You've left me no choice but to abandon the pro Israel cause.
It would have been nice if, rather than attacking Joe Kent, they themselves came out with that information and wouldn't have to consider Joe Kent.
Why didn't Andrew want to come out with that information to the public?
Why didn't Erica want to assert that to the public?
Like he was actually.
Abandoning the Prozier cause because my husband was under a tremendous amount of stress in the end because they were pulling money from him and they were threatening him financially, and he felt morally blackmailed by them, and they were telling him who he could speak to and who his friends could be.
Could you imagine how different sentiments would be toward her if she at all ever reflected what he was going through in the last few months?
Instead, we got, well, we can't question why she didn't do that.
She's a grieving widow.
And she's forced to assume his role and reverse everything that he did, like LBJ did after JFK's death.
She's forced to do that.
It's brave that she's doing that.
It's godly.
It's inspired that she's doing that.
I don't know what else to say.
I think that is all for the comments that we have.
Oh, I missed one.
Seven Sheets wrote here for the authenticity.
Candace, along with Baron, et cetera, could replace the entire alphabet agencies.
And I think we'd be so much better off.
Sad realization, but at least the people are following truth over slop.
Yeah, I totally agree.
I enjoy Baron Coleman's show so much.
I also enjoy Lionel Nation's show so much.
I love watching these shows.
And I mean, it's just the.
It's the research.
And I think that's what separates it.
I was saying to my team, it's like so many people have podcasts, and what they're really doing is it's a really cheap form of podcasting where they're just playing a clip and reacting to it, right?
Or playing a clip and reacting to it.
Like, oh, I'm reacting to the Daily Mail article.
Well, are you actually going to do the work and read through the documents and read the 28 pages plus the addendums and the attachments and comprehend what's happening?
Or are you just going to be a commentator, like, you know, part of the commentary and just go, oh, this person's evil?
This person's demonic.
I can't stand it.
This is wrong.
We don't need it.
I wish we could just flush it all out, you know?
And so, what I appreciate about Baron and also Lionel is their experience as lawyers.
They bring that to the table.
There is like, you know, the investigative form, it's unique.
Like, he found this thing that I hadn't found that then locked in.
I'm referring to Baron here, but locked in perfectly to something that I had discovered.
I was like, oh, they were living in the same house.
I didn't realize that Qureshi was this relevant to the military.
We got some 06s and some 05s.
I now know what that means.
Military people, do I sound cool?
Am I stepping my game up a little bit?
Can you admit that I'm stepping my game up from the beginning when I accidentally said E3 or E2?
Like, I'm learning.
We're all learning together.
I'm trying to step my game up, but it separates it to be thorough and to be investigating and also to enjoy what you do.
You sense a joy in all of their shows and Baron's show.
He's very funny.
And, you know, it's unfortunate.
If you're not high IQ, you can't watch it, but it's a good show.
I'm allowed to be there, everyone here today.
We were a high IQ outfit here today.
Anyway, you guys, we will see you tomorrow.
And then we're going to take a week break and dive into Romney land.
We will see you tomorrow.
unidentified
I don't know what you're talking about.
The only thing that I can say about it is that I have a very good point about it.
I have a very good point about it.
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