Candace Owens investigates Erica Kirk's mysterious presence at an unmarked Hopkinson Aircrafts building on September 10, arguing she was concealed from public view alongside a priest. She scrutinizes Andrew Colvett's alibi regarding flight details and guest-hosting claims while defending Joe Kent against betrayal accusations by Blake Neff. Despite the prosecution's evidence linking Tyler Robinson to the murder weapon via DNA and digital confessions, Owens laments potential government testimony for the defense, asserting an overwhelming case exists that conspiracy theorists ignore in favor of protecting their narratives. [Automatically generated summary]
I woke up and I had a shot of Baron Coleman this morning.
Just like his podcast got me all fired up because he went off.
He had a little Baron crash out.
And it added another detail to our investigation yesterday into the planes, a detail that I had missed somehow earlier that's rather explosive.
I will say this: I defy no stereotypes as a woman.
I am not technologically gifted.
So I did not know that you could drag the flight radar ADS-B coverage to the exact minute to see where that plane was, what the altitude of that plane was at any given time.
So I'll explain it later for the other ladies who are like me.
But first, my friends, we have been working on a particular tip for some time.
We had received it a while ago regarding Erica's whereabouts on September the 10th.
And at long last, we were able to confirm it in a way that is rather explosive.
Where was Erica on September 10th?
Well, I'll tell you, she was apparently in an unmarked building.
Welcome back to Candace.
All right, you guys, wake up, look alive.
We are at the gates.
We are at the gates.
All of us, it has been, what, a little over six months, and we have not stopped the onslaught.
We have kept up the energy.
Someone in the comment section described the Charlie Kirk open investigation as a group project.
And I love that, right?
That is so true.
We are all partners in this group project to figure out what actually happened on September 10th.
Who was behind the killing of Charlie Kirk?
Well, Baron Coleman is certainly one of the people that is in our group.
His show is kind of described by some people as the after party to my show.
We kind of build off of each other and the work and the investigation that we're doing.
And I really love that last night he underscored really how sick and tired we all are of this obvious game of them ignoring the major inconsistencies in the Tyler Robinson story that we have pointed out or in the Turning Point USA alibis that we have pointed out.
And when they respond, they choose to only respond to like the minor details that they can debunk that have nothing to do with anything that we've said on this show, his show.
They sort of wait for somebody to make a mistake somewhere in the universe and then they pounce, right?
And Baron does a very good job of describing really what that is.
It's frankly a low IQ strategy of attempting to win a debate on a technicality that you're obviously losing.
It's a gotcha, gotcha argument.
And we took this and I want you to listen to it because I think it's really relevant.
It helps you to kind of further steal yourself when it comes to the internet and what they're throwing at you.
Imagine, for example, a simple debate on economics.
The losing side might fixate on one outdated data point.
They hammer it as proof of incompetence.
And then they proclaim the entire case collapses.
They declare victory and they never address the macro, the larger construct of the argument.
They don't address things like expert consensus or even their own contradictions.
And viewers, if they're tuned out or maybe deeply or emotionally invested in seeing the losing side win, they're able to walk away thinking me gotcha side one, even if the other side very much had the upper hand.
This is bad faith.
This is bad faith debating.
If not outright intellectual dishonesty, it overlaps with several logical fallacies.
Thank you, Joe.
Your book had a large part in helping put this together.
It overlaps with several logical fallacies, fallacy, excuse me, but it isn't neatly packed into any one of them.
It resembles quibbling, where one side focuses on some trivial objection to derail the main point, or even cherry-picking where you highlight one favorable detail and you ignore the rest.
But the twist here is the premature declaration of victory.
And it treats that isolated incident as a checkmate.
And there's this really rookie debate tactic.
It's overused and frankly very rookie.
It's known as Gish Gallup.
I don't know if you've ever heard of that.
It's where you flood the other side with so many details and arguments that it just overwhelms the other side.
It's like that, but it's different in that the gotcha victory is surgical.
I mean, sure, he's talking about people that are intellectual cowards.
And to be clear, that is exactly what angered me when all of the frauds decided to pounce on the audio that was released, not by me, not by Baron Coleman, but somebody released it, claimed it was Erica Kirk.
But they then tried to extrapolate that error to mean that the broader picture, that all of the other curious aspects of the case, which we have presented, okay, they can now safely be ignored.
Everything else can be summarily debunked because someone unrelated to the investigation got something wrong.
It's just so cheap and it's so performative.
And yes, it is only done because they are losing.
And I then loved the energy coming from Baron Coleman last night.
I watched it this morning, which I think perfectly encapsulates the emotion of how we all feel right now.
We are indeed, however, speculating with a lot of evidence, which is mounting that perhaps Andrew was not on the plane that he claims he was on.
We'll have more on that later.
Of course, the bigger issue is that it means that Erica went on an earlier flight to Utah.
Which flight?
I don't know.
We can't be too certain, but I do now have an explosive tidbit.
Now, I have, I have to hope that given my track record of providing you with receipt after receipt, with text message after text message, with phone log after phone log, and you are going to allow me to use this excuse, I guess maybe I have a credit here when I tell you that I simply cannot reveal to you how I came across this information.
In other words, what I'm saying to be, is that there's no way for me to protect the source, but the information is explosive.
I've long explained to you that one of the things that is so odd to me is that nobody, nobody saw Erica on the day of Charlie's assassination.
Nobody's come forward at least to say that they saw Erica on the day of the assassination in the places, the very public places that she claims to be.
Point one, point A, she says that she collapsed in a parking lot after her mother helped with her mother getting treatment.
Then she collapsed in a parking lot.
Curiously, no witnesses.
It's a big deal.
Everyone was looking for Erica Kirk on that day.
Everyone, the whole world was tuning in to this assassination and then realized suddenly pictures.
Oh my God, he leaves behind a wife and two kids.
That's when everybody got to learn what Erica Kirk looked like.
It's just not every day.
Even if you didn't know at the time, you would go, oh my gosh, now I remember.
I saw a blonde collapse in a parking lot.
That must have been Erica.
Now she's telling the story, it looks like Erica.
I mean, I saw the nurses come out and escort her.
And then what?
She somehow drove her car thereafter to her apartment after having a collapse.
Is that even safe?
What was an ambulance called?
Again, no witnesses.
We don't know.
And Erica doesn't like to speak about it.
There's no details there.
Then we know that at some point she had to have raced to the airport with an entourage, an entourage, which included a priest.
Okay, a priest.
Ladies and gentlemen, it is not every day that you see the widow of Charlie Kirk accompanied by a man in clerical robes at an airport terminal.
Can we acknowledge that?
It's just not every day.
That would be an unusual thing that stood out to you.
And I know, yes, of course, they flew private, but I promise you there would have been more than a few witnesses.
Private terminals are actually quite busy in cities like Scottsdale.
That's a big hub.
You're going to see a lot of action at the FBO terminals where people fly out private.
So I was starting to get the feeling like she actually was being kept somewhere that was more private than private, more private than a private terminal private.
And then I happened upon some information.
I said to you, I feel like if this was an operation, it was a lot took place with planes and terminals that the public didn't have access to, right?
I was positing that yesterday.
Well, I can tell you today, and look, I will say allegedly, say allegedly here, but then I happened upon some information.
Erica was at the office of Hopkinson Aircrafts when she received the news that Charlie was dead.
I'm going to tell you more about Hopkinson Aircrafts.
Now, you'll remember that Erica told me to my face, also Elizabeth McCoy wrote a long post and she confirmed this: that Erica got the news right before they flew to Provo.
So Erica had a phone call with the doctor.
There are different variations here: whether a decision was made to let Charlie go or whether he told her that Charlie had passed.
But the point is, is that before she got on the plane and departed Scottsdale, she knew that Charlie was dead.
Okay.
And this was in the presence of Hopkinson Aircrafts employees.
Now, I wondered, what is that?
What is Hopkinson Aircrafts?
Well, it's a luxury aircraft brokerage, like where you go to buy planes.
They're brokers for planes.
They have locations in Canada and in Scottsdale.
Okay.
So I went on to Google and I tried to find their address in Scottsdale and it listed the address.
Again, this is all public.
It's 14600 North Aircraft Drive.
So that started to make sense.
That's an FBO, as you can see, a private terminal.
And I looked, I said, wow, that's a lot that's packed into Atlantic Aviation.
I have flown out of this terminal many times.
I don't remember there being in Hopkinson aircraft sales, also with Atlantic Aviation, and then also this Raws Aviation.
Like, what's going on?
This map.
Yeah, okay.
But yeah, like I told you, it's the same address as Atlantic Aviation.
It's a common, busy private terminal.
So I thought, okay, what must have happened here is Erica must have flown out of Atlantic Terminal.
And then they happened to share a building with Hopkinson.
And maybe the people that were working for Hopkinson overheard her as she got the news.
I'm sure she screamed.
Maybe she collapsed again, was crying.
But something told me this was not a detail to ignore.
Something just felt off.
So I decided to look through their website and I just thought to myself, just in general, 2026, why would you waste time having an office building in this tremendously expensive location?
They're not making their own aircrafts, just a brokerage firm.
You could do this on the phone, right?
Like, why?
Why would you spend this money to be inside sharing this with Atlantic Aviation?
It just seemed weird to me.
So I then went to the team.
I said, let's look at this.
And similarly, they thought that it looked funny on the map.
It just looked weird.
And at certain times, when I was trying to find Hopkinson aircraft, it almost appeared as though there was a building that was behind Atlantic FBO, but that was separate from Atlantic FBO.
So finally, I had a genius idea.
I said, you know, why don't I just send someone anonymously to contact Hopkinson, to contact Atlantic and see what the deal is, right?
Is there really an office inside of Atlantic?
And remarkably, we were able to determine that Hopkinson is indeed in a building that is separate from Atlantic, but Atlantic accepts all of their mail.
And the reason that Atlantic does that is because Hopkinson does not actually have its own address.
It's in a building that stands alone and is separate from Atlantic FBO terminal, where you would fly out if you were going private.
And this is a brokerage firm, okay?
This is aircraft brokerage.
They sell planes and they have no address.
Their address, they use Atlantic Trust.
Atlantic receives all of their packages, all of their mail, but their location is separate and it's next door and it's kind of hidden.
That's why I was having trouble locating it.
I'm going to show you that.
This is the building that Erica was allegedly in when she found out from the doctor that Charlie was not going to make it.
You don't know your husband is about to be shot, even though she did actually say when he got shot, I effing knew it.
That was the sentence that came out of her mouth.
But, you know, in a way, maybe she meant like, oh, gosh, he was so scared.
Like he, oh, I knew something.
I had a bad feeling that day.
I knew it, right?
How did we get there?
What is what is Hopkinson?
How do we get to Hopkinson aircraft?
Did somebody have a thought?
Let's see if we can buy a plane.
Why are we heading there?
Why are we staging there in this obscure building of Hopkinson aircraft, which is not known to anybody, right?
How'd she get there?
What is Hopkinson aircraft?
Why did it immediately feel shady to me?
It felt to me like a CIA front, if I'm being honest.
That's an opinion.
It felt to me like this is not a real business, but it needs to present like it's a real business for some reason.
And I can show you their website here.
Okay.
Luxury aircraft sales, premier aircraft sales, over 60 years, three generations of elevated expertise, the Hopkinson luxury aircraft.
We can get started.
I think somewhere, if you click around, Skylar, we can find the family, the team, the Hopkinson difference.
Now, what is the difference?
Actually, you do jet sales.
Why are you in this building?
Why are you in this unmarked building?
You don't have to, no one needs to come to see you to see what jets are available because jets, of course, live wherever their owners live.
So it's not like you're not like you're buying a used car and you're walking out and there's going to be a fleet of used jets somewhere.
It's like a junkyard at the Scottsdale airport.
What is Erica doing in that building?
I would like to know.
I would like to know more about the Hopkinson family in general.
Actually, maybe you know something.
Maybe you know this family.
And you go, oh, well, here's what they do.
They really are just the difference in luxury aircraft sales.
It's a data point that I think really matters because there's something about this that feels secretive to me.
All of it.
It feels like Erica was being protected that day.
Which leads us, by the way, to the question of Andrew Colvet.
Right?
We were surmising that Andrew Colvett actually flew on Charlie's plane.
Again, why would they all go to Scottsdale?
Would be a question in the background.
Why would Andrew need to be on Charlie's plane?
Why not just fly from Santa Barbara?
Maybe, and again, we are speculating here because there was a pre-approved location where no one would see them because you can't just wander into there.
Okay.
No one knows it exists that people knew to meet.
They can get in and out and not be seen by anybody.
Now, moving back to Andrew Colvet, like I said, we are positing that he at first flew to Scottsdale from Santa Barbara and then he flew from Scottsdale onto Provo, Utah.
Two flights that day.
And we believe that neither of those flights are the alleged much later 3:19 p.m. Mountain Standard time flight that Erica told me that he was aboard.
Okay.
And I'm going to tell you why I, just like Baron Coleman, feel even more convinced that we are correct that he was not on that plane because I'm going to tell you some specs about this plane, which actually really matter.
Now, again, I should say, Andrew has never said he was aboard this jet.
Andrew himself has never said that he took the 319 Santa Barbara flight, tail number N8724A.
Erica made that claim to my face.
Andrew did not.
Now, I'm going to give these planes names.
I think it's easy to remember them.
This is going to be our Barbara plane for Santa Barbara.
You should know that it's a Hawker beachcraft.
Somewhere we have a picture of a Hawker beachcraft.
This is simply not a plane that any person in business would describe as a massive jet.
Okay.
Your knees will be touching in that plane.
Andrew described a plane as a massive plane to me multiple times.
He also, I think, said it publicly on the show.
He had this massive plane to himself.
Okay.
Here, again, that's the photo of it.
Instantly me to go, this isn't the plane we're looking for.
That actually makes it look bigger in the air.
This is not the plane that we are looking for.
You do not describe that plane as a massive plane.
Now, since this particular jet is actually available for charter, and since I believe this was a military operation, I do not believe the planes that they would have used would have just been available for charter.
That makes me even more, I'm more likely to believe a scenario where this plane was actually the one that took his wife later to Provo because then you would charge, you don't care that that plane doesn't matter, right?
So I thought, let me call and try to not charter this plane, but ask some questions about this plane, a crucial question, actually.
So I called this morning and I said, hey, does this jet have Wi-Fi?
Because remember, whatever plane Andrew's on, he doesn't have Wi-Fi, right?
We have now confirmed this.
We have a text chain, text chain with Aubrey, who's got to be the boss that day.
Nobody can do anything.
Aubrey's doing everything.
She's got to do everything before she gets fired.
Justin jumps in on this text thread after Aubrey asks a very important question of whether or not she should confirm or deny that the email that was sent to the entire company saying that Charlie Kirk is dead.
And now the media is all messaging her and she's like, hey, like, should I confirm or deny this?
And Justin jumps in on the text and he says that it's up to Andrew.
And Andrew doesn't answer.
And then he says to Aubrey, you're going to have to wait until Andrew's on the ground.
He says that at 4.18.
The implication is obvious here.
Andrew is on a plane that does not have Wi-Fi.
That's why he can't answer, right?
Well, that means we can rule out Barbara.
We can rule out Barbara because Barbara has Wi-Fi.
Again, I called this morning.
The company that handles that plane charter said to me, and I quote, all of our planes have Wi-Fi.
It's a big sell.
You put right on the website because people want planes with Wi-Fi.
So Andrew would not have been out of pocket and unable to answer if he was aboard Barbara.
And it's interesting that when Andrew does come back online, he does not say that he was on a plane at this time, right?
He says, my internet just came back on.
Different from I'm on a plane or I just got service.
I think that's how you would say, I just got service.
My internet just came back on.
Okay.
So let's instead now examine the earlier point of that conversation and see if we can find a match.
The point of the conversation where he explicitly mentions that he's on a plane.
And again, I'm doing all Utah time, guys.
Everything I'm saying to you is Utah time.
I think it's easier to think in terms of Utah time.
When Andrew explicitly mentions that he is on a plane at 3.26 p.m. Mountain Standard, right?
He says specifically, sorry, on the plane, this just loaded.
And he is referring to a message that was sent to him that he had not answered.
That was at 1.30.
Well, we can now adjust slightly his period where he was blacked out.
In other words, there's like the dark period of Andrew.
We initially said 1.30.
We can actually now say 1.47.
We want to be as precise as possible 17 minutes later because we learned that he did answer Aubrey on a separate Telegram channel before he went dark.
He answered her about the press, about Laura Ingram's show.
He called her too.
Then he goes dark and he's dark until 3.26 p.m. when he says that.
Sounds like he's coming into land, right?
Sounds like he's coming into land.
So here is our calendar slightly adjusted to account for that 17 minute last correspondence that we have of Andrew.
And you can see still kind of looks like he would be on Charlie's plane, drawing your attention to the orange there.
That's Charlie's plane.
And then that block to the left, you can see Andrew's unavailable.
Marina tells her right around that time that he's not available.
Okay, you got to write this statement.
And he's not available when that statement goes out.
So I thought, let's see if we can find a plane that flew into Pro on that day and was coming into land at 3.26, right?
When he says that, yeah, you have my plane.
Sorry, I was on a plane and my messages are just starting to load.
Sounds like you're landing, right?
In theory, that's what we're looking for.
We're looking for a plane that had no Wi-Fi that suddenly began to receive signals because we know this.
When your plane gets low enough, you suddenly start to receive all of your messages at once.
And you guys, you won't believe it.
But Charlie's plane matches that exact description.
At 3.26 p.m., Charlie's plane was coming in to land at Provo.
And it tells us you can go onto the ADSB Exchange website and you can see that that plane got below 7,500.
And it was just a couple of minutes from touching down in Scottsdale, precisely where I remember that Andrew was flying from.
Big plane.
That's a G5.
And we can bring it to the exact minute.
Take a look here.
You can see, and we'll bring this up closer on the left-hand side.
This is what this website allows you to do.
We are looking at 9.10.
We are looking at that timeframe, which is adjusted UTC, which in the summertime is minus six.
And we can see that that plane gets below 7,500 feet.
Okay.
So if we are relying on this text thread, it would appear that Andrew Colvet took two flights that day.
And neither of those flights were equipped with Wi-Fi.
And that's why he was out of pocket.
And I believe, just like Baron Coleman believes, that Andrew at first took the plane out of Santa Barbara to Scottsdale.
And that's that YReFi plane.
And that plane, I can also confirm, kind of, a little bit, but at least the facts are that when that plane, the YReFi plane was available for charter back in 2020, it was not being sold as having been equipped with Wi-Fi, right?
Because you want to put all the features when you're chartering a plane.
Here's what we got for you.
Here's what we got.
Well, look at this Wi-Fi listing for the alleged YReFi plane that we think that Andrew took from Santa Barbara to Scottsdale.
You can see on that left-hand side, they're like, hey, you've got a private belted laboratory.
We can open that belt and you can go to the bathroom.
You've got cabin power outlets you can charge.
Here's the cabin height, 5'7, a large refreshment center.
And then it says a satellite phone.
Satellite phone.
It's not marketing Wi-Fi.
So that's the best we can do.
Likely that first plane did not have Wi-Fi either.
Second plane, of course, would be Charlie's plane.
Did that plane have Wi-Fi?
The simple answer is I don't know.
I don't know.
Somebody might know.
Somebody may have flown with Charlie on that plane.
If so, please email us.
It was a G5.
It definitely has Wi-Fi capabilities, therefore, but I don't know, nor do I believe that Charlie would have ever used that because in case you don't know this, it is exceedingly expensive to run Wi-Fi on your own plane.
Expensive as in, I literally know two billionaires who outright own their planes that are Wi-Fi capable and they do not use it because the costs are astronomical and they say it's a scam.
Okay.
It is an outright ripoff.
If you own the jet, and I can state that I highly, highly, highly doubt that Charlie Kirk would have been running the Wi-Fi on the jet.
It costs, just so you understand, $300,000 just to install Wi-Fi aboard a jet.
And then you're looking at an approximate $30,000 to $50,000 a month to run it.
We don't know.
We cannot state that definitively.
What we can state definitively is that Andrew and Erica could just respond, not to the crop top, but Andrew could assert on the show that I was definitively on the barber plane, barber plane with Wi-Fi.
I just didn't want to text.
I just wanted Aubrey to do all the work.
That's the plane I was on.
Andrew could stop focusing on Joe Kent and he could answer whether or not he flew in with his wife on the barber plane.
And then Erica could chime in.
I don't know why I didn't remember his wife.
That's so weird.
I don't know.
So I know she was just right behind him.
We were hugging.
I was just lost in the sauce, lost in the hug.
Such a great hug.
I didn't know.
But now I remember.
That seems easy enough, right?
Are we asking for too much to get some answers here?
Because we're presenting a lot of evidence.
We've got text messages.
We're telling you that she was in the Hopkinson aircraft building, unmarked finger-merjigger.
Could they maybe stop instead trying to tell us and getting angry about how much she loves Shabbat Shaloming and respond to what we're presenting on the show?
I will say, this is interesting, and I'm going to get to this after the break, that Andrew Colbett does have one possible alibi that day, which could, if we can prove it, prove it as true, it would mean that he was actually in Santa Barbara during the time that our YReFi plane flew out to Scottsdale from Santa Barbara.
I'm going to tell you about that potential alibi and why I am moderately suspicious of it when we get back from a brief break.
So something of interest that I learned while watching Baron's show, I don't know how I missed it, is that Andrew does have just one thing that could serve as an alibi on September 10th.
It would mean he was not on our YReFi plane from Santa Barbara to Scottsdale.
A strong alibi, it would be if it was true.
It would make it, like I said, impossible.
And that's the fact that Andrew hosted the first hour of the Charlie Kirk live show on September 10th.
All right.
Here is a clip of him explaining that to a New York Times reporter named Ross Duthaw.
He reported how him subbing for Charlie came about.
Now, note, just a little side point here.
He's going to effectively admit that Charlie couldn't stand Ben Shapiro and was annoyed that he had to interview him the day before because Andrew's the one that booked him, which I've been saying from day one, but it's just, it's refreshing to kind of hear him acknowledge it without saying Ben's name.
So, the day before, actually, I had booked an interview for him that he was not super pleased that I booked for him, but it was, there was a good reason for doing it.
But he was, he was like, you know what?
I'm tired now and I want to focus on the tour tomorrow.
So, you're going to, you're going to guest host the show tomorrow.
So, I guest hosted the show that morning.
It was, you know, uneventful.
And we had a pre-record for hour two, actually.
So, it's probably too in the weeds, but he's texting me on his way and he's going over talking points about polygamy because he's going to Utah and why is monogamy important.
And he, and, you know, we're just rapid fire.
These are our thoughts on why monogamy is advanced societal tech and it's, and it, it, it, uh, it, you know, direct Western civilization.
I just want to get a weed whacker and go through them all actually, because that's interesting.
Because he's saying Charlie texted him.
And Skylar, I know we scrubbed through.
Did you hear, was he discussing monogamy on that episode?
We'll have to go through and double check.
Maybe he was.
He said Charlie is texting him notes.
So I'm going to fact check that more for tomorrow's episode.
But here is a still.
So you can see that from the episode that he did actually end up hosting for Charlie.
And I wouldn't have thought twice about this.
I would have said, okay, great.
He was live in this hour.
Were it not for the fact that we now know that Andrew Colvett is in the business of faking live shows in order to give himself an alibi?
We learned this when I broke the story that Andrew visited the White House the day before the FCU files were released, but he pretended that he was in Arizona live on the Charlie Kirk show, interviewing Kash Patel.
Kash Patel's all like, I never do a live show.
He's calling in live.
And then all of a sudden, my sources at the White House were like, hey, Andrew's here.
It's kind of weird.
He's playing his live on the show.
He's here and he's actually near Kash Patel's office.
So Kash Patel's helping him in that scenario pretend that he's live.
Like, okay.
So I'm not saying that that's proof that he faked the live on September 10th.
What I'm saying is I would like to confirm that he didn't.
That's fair.
This is an investigation.
I'd like to confirm that he didn't.
And that was indeed a live show.
Some other interesting things.
So on this particular episode, he interviews Nick Shirley.
Nick Shirley is an independent journalist.
And I should say that this is a very big booking for Nick Shirley.
Nick Shirley is just 23 years old.
And at this moment, when Andrew is interviewing him, it's before Nick goes mega viral, right?
And the weeks afterward, he goes really viral for discovering fraud in Somalian daycare.
As you may have seen that story going around and people were outraged about all this fraud.
So why exactly did Andrew book him and interview him?
Well, Andrew is going to tell us why in the lead up to their interview.
An independent YouTube journalist, and I go all across the world, not just the only, not just the United States, but all across the world, uh, showing the realities of things that they really are, whether it be, whether it had been the migrant crisis or the fentanyl crisis or asking me who they're voting for.
I go to all the locations or just doing ride-alongs with a gangsters in Chicago as well.
Through the course of two days, I was able to get access to one of Rio's largest gangs, Commando Vermerlo, and befriend a few of their soldiers who are so dangerous they cannot even leave the favela.
Lots of strange things happen to find myself on top of Brazil's largest favela in a destroyed house interviewing gang members of one of the largest gangs in Brazil.
Okay, I'm just going to say I don't believe that at all.
I'm sorry.
I just, I, I just, it's so stupid.
I'm not even gonna tell you what I believe.
It's like, it's like, if you don't know that that's stupid, that he infiltrated the gang in 48 hours.
Like, it's just that's so dumb.
I'm so tired of dumb.
That's not how that works.
Okay.
You don't just go up to gangs on the street as a nice looking white boy with a camera and say, hey, I just wanted to sort of like see what you're doing here.
What's going on?
Okay, that's to stop.
That's stupid.
Of course, that's dumb.
I'm sorry, Nick.
I know you're young.
I hope, you know, whoever is your contact that has you infiltrating Antifa and infiltrating El Salvador at the age of 23 years old, it just feels like Sean Penn young to me.
Like, oh, Sean Penn's always there with the cartels, never gets hurt, always is a part of a movie.
I just, I don't like stupid.
That did not happen.
Okay.
That did not just happen.
He didn't wander into a favela and meet up with gang members of the camera.
And they were like, you know, it's cool.
Come here, see what we're up to.
Anyway, some other interesting facts about Nick Shirley is that he is also a member of the LDS church, sometimes referred to as the Mormon Church.
They say they don't use that term anymore of the LDS church.
And he also happens to be from Utah.
So I thought, since I don't really care about what Nick does for a living or who his contacts are over in the government that clearly got him this access, I just want to confirm whether or not he did that show live.
Okay.
So I reached out to him before this episode because it's very easy to get Nick on record saying, yes, I can confirm I did a live between the 9 a.m. and 10 a.m. Pacific hour on September 10th.
That would be a solid confirmation that I could get in writing from Nick Shirley.
So I'm pursuing that.
I have not yet heard back from him.
I sent it this morning.
So it might take him some time to see my message on X.
I think that that is something we should be able to easily confirm, right?
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Anyway, I want to make sure that I also show you this updated list of all of the planes that we have been speaking about so that you can take a picture and examine them yourself.
You know, I like lists.
I like things that are tidy.
So these are the planes.
And I'm kind of giving them names now.
We've got that YReFi plane.
That's what Erica said.
She said that it was Y-ReFi CEO.
It could be Erica Kirk and Tyler Boyer.
I will say this.
I do believe Erica Kirk flew with Tyler Boyer.
And another person told us Tyler Boyer was in earlier that day and had taken a meeting in Utah, but I have not been able to confirm that with a first-person account.
But I find that interesting.
And I do know Erica Kirk and Tyler were together.
The second plane, I actually guess I haven't named this.
This is a very interesting plane.
We actually should talk about this N40JD plane that gets into Utah.
It leaves an hour after Charlie gets shot from Scottsdale and it lands into Provo.
So that very much could be Erica.
And why I like this as an option also for maybe Erica on this plane is that it's owned by a person named Jason Nupp.
And it appears that that is the chief commander of the Naval Service Force in Atlanta.
And again, if you're going to go through great lengths to protect and conceal Erica, you might want to use somebody that's in the military.
You got to know every person that is on the plane that is who is piloting the planes, who is moving the bodies.
You cannot just randomly actually charter a plane.
You got to be who is the owner?
You got to know that person, because if you're going to say Erica's on a plane that she wasn't on, that person has to be willing to back you up.
In the scenario, you know, that everyone's a liar and they all lied about what they did that day.
The most important control would have to be the planes.
So that's an interesting jet there that's owned by Jason Nupp.
And yeah, I just want to put that out there.
We don't know who the passengers are on that plane.
I did not get names for that.
We have obviously Charlie's plane.
We have the alleged passengers.
I don't buy that.
I think it is way more likely that the messages reveal.
We have enough evidence to at least suggest that Andrew Colvett flew on that plane alone, actually.
And then that would mean that Erica landed, by the way, almost at the exact, if she's on, go back up.
If she's on the Navy plane, that would be, that lands at 229.
This one lands, that would be, that would still be an hour wait.
But if she's on that first plane, go back up.
If she's on the Y ReFi plane, or if, yeah, then she would have landed into Provo.
Oh, no, that one doesn't land in Provo.
Go down.
I'm sorry.
We'll get into that fourth plane.
This is our Santa Barbara plane.
And this one is going to land into Provo at 4.36 p.m.
Way too late.
Andrew didn't scramble to get a jet for three hours.
I don't buy that.
It's just, it's common sense.
I raced.
I raced.
Well, you didn't race if you sat in your house for three hours.
Anybody can get you a plane faster than three hours.
Okay.
This is California.
Okay.
It's not like he's stranded on an island and we got to have, oh, where are we going to find a plane?
This is an extremely resourceful company.
They have their own jets.
Andrew did not wait for three hours.
And then Erica then waited an additional hour for him to land.
None of that makes sense on its face.
I'm giving my opinion here on the basis of all of the evidence that we have now looked at.
That is a highly unlikely scenario that he was on Barbara.
I think his wife could have been on Barbara.
And then what he said to me, of course, I want you to meet up, whatever.
Then she comes in later.
I should note, my goodness, something just came to me live.
And I am more convinced that I am correct.
Remember, I told you that despite Erica having to have waited for that tarmac hug, when they went to the hospital, Hospital, they went in two different directions, right?
Andrew went to the front and Erica went through some private backdoor entrance.
That was my understanding.
I did not hear that Andrew was with his wife.
Andrew's wife is missing.
She had to have shown up later.
The recall would have been they, Erica went to the back and Andrew was with his wife.
I don't remember hearing that.
I will double-check that, but I remember hearing that Andrew just went into a separate entrance, which is weird.
Why would you wait for an hour and then make him go for the front?
Like he was either so important that you needed him by your side that you waited for him, and therefore you're both going to go for the back, or you didn't wait for him and you went through the back because you're his wife and your husband was just assassinated and you want to get there at the earliest, at your earliest possible convenience.
Like nothing they are saying makes any sense.
Nothing they are saying makes any sense.
Moving on, the Israel Firsters are still guns a blazing for Joe Kent.
They are peak psycho right now.
And I do want to show you actually, and I'm going to skip the Trump clip, guys, because I just don't even care about Trump right now.
He's so disgusting, him mocking, trying to mock and be funny about Joe Kent's wife, who sacrificed her life for this country, being snotty, I guess, by saying, oh, he married pretty quickly, pretty quickly.
He married five years later.
He remarried five years later.
He had two young children.
Anyway, but Blake Neff is trying to make hate happen toward Joe Kent.
He wants to make that fetch towards Joe Kent because they're angry that we are crushing them with the truth.
Now he's going to try to do this.
And this clip that I'm going to show you from today is with the worst acting ever.
I am talking the Academy Award does not go to Blake Neff.
Okay.
Background.
Joe Kent was interviewed by Michael Schellenberger.
Is that the right person?
I hope I got that right.
And basically, the interviewer asks him, like, hey, you're making statements that they did not thoroughly investigate this.
There were leads that you would have, that you wanted to pursue.
And he asks him, Do you recognize if by making those statements, that could potentially result in you being called to testify by, you know, Tyler Robinson's defense team?
They might call you and prod the narrative because they would say they didn't even investigate and pursue other leads.
And of course, Joe Kent says, that wasn't my goal.
My goal is just to tell the truth, but the truth holds everywhere.
Yeah, I understand that that could happen.
He is saying the feds did not thoroughly investigate other leads because it's abundantly obvious and it's true.
And so if they called you to testify, if they called me to testify in the defense, okay.
Hey, Candice, did you hear that Eric?
Yes, I did hear that.
Hey, Candice, did you hit?
Yes, I did hear that.
The truth doesn't play offense or defense.
It's just the truth.
So Blake Neff and Andrew Colvett, worst actors ever, are about to try to sell to you with their absolute best emotion that no, oh my God, if you were called to testify and tell the truth for the defense, you would betray Charlie.
The truth would betray Charlie.
Let's see if you can be convinced by their raw emotion in this clip.
Blake is just unleashed.
He lets his hair, he doesn't have a lot of hair down in this clip.
There's digital confessions, but also his parents are out there.
They have never stepped forward and said this is a lie.
They could easily do that.
It would be trivial to do that if it was the case.
They have not done that.
His parents turned him in.
That is the most obvious piece of evidence in the world that nothing can argue around.
And some people are so obsessed with the same conspiracies that they concoct for every other thing that ever happens.
And so they have to shove it into this one too, because they care more about their conspiracy theories than about the person who murdered my friend facing justice.
Here's why it's so frustrating: because there is going to be even more evidence that is presented to the public in May at the evidentiary hearing, okay?
And it's a mountain of evidence, some of which has been made public, some of which has not been made public yet.
And the prosecution is going to lay out its case against Tyler Robinson.
And I'm told it's a whopper.
I'm told they've got this guy dead to rights.
And meanwhile, you have government officials that are now saying on the record to journalists they are willing to testify on behalf of the defense to get ostensibly to get Tyler Robinson off the hook for something that he did.
And so the level of betrayal that I currently feel is dramatic.
We have messages that sound like they're written by the feds.
It's over.
I am overwhelmed.
I am so overwhelmed that we're going to have to go to break because I just feel myself choking up with a lot of overwhelming, overwhelming mountains of overwhelming.
We'll be right back.
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And it's amazing because Andrew says, like, I'm told it's a cascade.
It's a whopper.
By the way, whopper is usually subbed for the word lie.
And I do want to remind you that I met with Erica just a couple of months ago.
And Erica told me that she had no more evidence than the public had.
But now Andrew is giving us an update and saying, now they, they, since then, they have found so much evidence.
It's going to be crazy.
And he's just emotional considering that Joe Kent, if he does get called by the defense, he would, he would say this true sentence that he was stopped from investigating foreign leads.
And that would just, it would all crumble overnight.
Top comments from last episode is: imagine, this is Elaine Ashi writes, imagine being called a coward after you've been deployed 11 times, lost your wife to an IED explosion, spoke the truth while knowing you'd be attacked from every angle.
We are ruled by degenerates.
Yes, we are.
We are ruled by degenerates.
That is a very true statement.
We are ruled by cowards, absolute cowards.
That's what they do, like caddy, and they call you names.
That's what they're going to do.
Oh, he's betraying Charlie by telling the truth.
You think telling the truth betrays Charlie?
You were never a friend of his.
You were never a friend of his.
If anything I said on the show got called and pulled over from the defense, I would stand by every word that I said.
Okay.
Every single word because it's true.
I told the truth.
And if I found out later that it was not correct, I did my best to correct everything that I've said.
I've been open to dialogue.
I said, come here, sit down with me.
No, you want to, it's so overwhelming.
Why don't you come sit down on my show, Blake?
Come on, Blakey.
Come sit down.
If it's just so abundantly true and obvious, why wouldn't you want to come make me look like a fool on my own show?
Why wouldn't you want the platform to be able to speak to everybody and to say, here, here it is, here's the evidence.
I'll go back and forth with the candidates.
And we don't even have to wait for the case because I want you to know that everything she's selling is, she's just obsessed with the conspiracy.
Come do that, Blake.
Take me up on my offer, Blake.
I don't understand why you wouldn't do this.
You seem so stressed out.
I don't know.
I think, am I wrong?
If I had a position on something and I knew it wasn't true, I would go, yeah, I'd love to come on your show and explain how that's not true.
And you have it all wrong.
Grie Blanco, second biggest comment, writes, how ironic that Andrew Colvett wants the FBI to investigate Joe Kent, but not to investigate Charlie Kirk's murder.
Yeah, they love, they love Kash Patel.
You Kash Patel on the show.
They don't care.
You would think he'd be like moderately upset, at least, at the very least, that Kash Patel stopped Joe Kent.
No, they're angry at Joe because Joe exposed them by that pesky little thing.
He told the truth.
Seems like he's an honest dude.
And they can't, they hate honest people.
Drives them crazy.
They lose sleep over honest people.
Blake, let me tell you, do not quit your day job, man.
You do not have what it takes in Hollywood.
Nobody was buying those theatrics.
I think a little too much hand action there.
You know, kind of doing a lot of this.
The conspiracies are so obsessed with their conspiracy.
It just wasn't working.
It just wasn't working.
And I don't believe that they have suddenly, since I met with Erica on December 15th, found all of this evidence that you are somehow privy to and you wouldn't just share with the public.
Hey, we actually have a video.
I'm taking a shot.
That'd be great if you said that, but you haven't.
Anyways, reminding you if you want to support our show, Independent Journalism, we have merch on the website, cannonsones.com, daddy's home, Shabbat Shalom.
You know, buy that today.
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Oh, look at that.
Three days ago, 100,000 views.
It's such a new channel.
It's exciting.
Yay.
Amazing.
All right, guys.
What comments do you have for me before I go?
I'm really hungry today.
So I'm going to read as many comments as I can.
Oh, okay.
Here we go.
Seven Sheets writes, why is CPUSA rushing to convict an obvious Pat C mere participant rather than trying to answer the questions that Candace is bravely trying to investigate?
That alone is extremely suspicious.
Yeah, I don't know.
Like it's, and that goes back to, and you should watch his entire statement.
Baron does these like monologue statements that are really great on his show.
But that's, this is the game they play.
They've lost.
And so they're trying to win with this like cheap path of landing upon some gotcha, waiting for somebody else in the universe to get something wrong as opposed to just responding.
When you're right, you're right.
You're just right.
You don't have to go through all of this, all these hoops to prove that you're right.
The truth is on your side.
Klaus Was Eaton writes, the staff at the Daily Wire are watching on top of Ben's intractable brows while the staff at TPUSA are sneaking a peek from behind Erica's hair.
Your search for truth is contagious, as is your battle bun.
Baron was sporting his last night.
Yeah, I love him.
I do love when he crashes out.
Just randomly moments I thought I'm like, he crashed out.
It's great.
I'm going to take it and play it on my show.
Jennifer Deloach writes, Baron's red face, he's going max.
You could just tell his kids, man, they were getting disciplined in that Catholic household.
I'll tell you that.
He's got like eight kids.
C. Jones, he writes, We need this, Candace, and can only thank God for giving you the intellect and articulation to set us all free.
Bless you and your loved ones.
You know, you already were endowed with that, man.
That's that's that gut instinct.
We all knew something was wrong.
I'm putting it together, but I'm not putting it together alone.
Like I said, group project, very obvious.
Um, if I did not have that tips inbox and people being like, Yes, yes, yes, this or that, I would not have been able to do it.
You know, I had the passion because Charlie was my friend, um, and I couldn't believe what I was seeing.
I couldn't believe you're just hearing Andrew, he was not very upset about the interview.
They were just gonna let Ben take over a turning point or something.
Erica just let him let him open.
Worst kept secret in the history of the world is that Charlie Kirk couldn't stand Ben.
Very few people can.
And they just were letting it happen.
And so I was just sitting back and just going, I can't believe this.
And I can't imagine this for anyone's life to be so instantly betrayed by the people who would not exist in their careers would not exist without you.
It's so ugly.
And the only thing that can motivate people to do that is money.
The only thing that can motivate people to do that is a lot of money.
And that's what I believe that a lot of these people are motivated by.
That's what they're doing.
They prove that.
Somebody came with a check.
Okay.
I don't care if he hated you.
You can speak.
That's fine.
BC writes, Miss Candice, please interview the great Catholic non-interventionist Pat Buchanan.
Dave Smith tells me often I should interview him.
He coined the phrase Israel's Amen Corner in the early 90s.
Yeah, I should get him.
Actually, Dave Smith gave me a book of his, but I haven't read it yet because it's like a, it's a big one.
It's a big one.
Anna writes, I remember days after Charlie was killed, one of the TPUSA guys, I did not know them, a nef or Andrew Colvett, said that a large donor called Erica right after Charlie Kirk was shot and asked if she knew everything about Turning Point USA.
And she said yes.
And he decided that she would replace him.
Who was this donor?
I don't know.
My guess would be off the bat.
Doug DeGroot on the um, he's on the board, and I think he's a donor.
I, yeah, that would be my best guess, but I don't know.
I'd have to go back and find that episode.
And she knows everything.
That was what she was, you know, in the immediate hours and days after the things that she did.
Man, I wish I could go back to being ignorant.
I wish I could go back to when I didn't want to assume, or I was able, actually, when I was able to assume, when I was assuming that she was aggrieved before I knew about the Zoom calls, when I was assuming that things were crazy because she was trying to get a handle on things and people were pulling her in different directions and that maybe she really did want to get to the bottom of everything.
I wish I could go back to those days because now we know so much, which by the way, makes me laugh even more when they suggest that Joe Kent was trying to set up Erica.
Nobody, least of all me, thought Erica was guilty until I know some of you guys, I mean, the TikTok had her clocked, but I was like, okay, you don't like her pants.
You don't like her hot pants next to JD.
You don't like the way she's hugging.
Yeah, is her hair is her fingers in his head?
A little disrespectful.
It's Vice President of the United States.
Don't put your fingers in his hair.
Just as a rule of thumb.
But I thought that you guys were going a little too hard on that.
And I was like, you know, we don't know what's going on.
Now I got giggly emojis, Zoom call, and merch hats.
And just, it just, I wish I could go back.
Maybe I can.
Time machine.
No project looking glass.
I might be able to go back.
I'll let you know if I figure it out.
If I get back my Sumerian technology that the Jews have stolen from me.