Candace Owens unpacks the mystery of Charlie Kirk’s missing wedding photo, questioning whether Erica Kirk or Andrew Colvett removed it after his September 8th appearance and December 12th Beck interview. She highlights inconsistencies in Erica’s account—Charlie’s odd excitement for a UVU event, waking at 3 AM, and claims he removed his wedding ring—while critiquing Zionist influence over conservative platforms like Trump’s Religious Liberty Commission and Turning Point USA, where Carrie Prejean was fired for opposing anti-Zionism censorship. The episode ties these controversies to broader fears of conservative betrayal, media manipulation, and potential legal failures, warning of escalating societal unrest if accountability falters. [Automatically generated summary]
All right, you guys, I actually think it's appropriate to bring Kid Rock back, bring him onto stage right now because I loved his song with Cheryl Crowe.
It was a big hit.
You know, up put your picture away.
That one, very relevant today, because what's trending all over the internet right now is Picture Gate.
Who put that picture away?
That's what they want to know.
It refers to a picture of Erica and Charlie on their wedding day, which Charlie had in his home office that suddenly went missing after his death.
And I will tell you why the internet is on fire about that.
Also, they did just go ahead and fire Carrie Pregene for standing up for Catholics down in Texas, Catholics and sensible people, because she refuses to worship Israel, which Catholics cannot do and moral people should not do.
It's crazy, but you know, ethno-supremacy does, in fact, go against the teaching of the church.
Welcome back to Candice, where to begin, where to begin.
I'd like to start with a special shout out to Laura Loomer.
Laura Loomer this afternoon, our resident Zionist psychopath.
She's amazing.
After yesterday's episode, she took to X to demand that Erica Kirk sue me.
Here is what she wrote.
She said, it is time for Mrs. Erica Kirk to sue Candace Owens.
She has gone too far.
How original, a Zionist threatening to sue.
Ooh, that's so new.
It feels so brand new.
Hey, Laura, welcome to the Candace podcast.
It sounds like you might be new here.
What we've been doing these past five months is trying to figure out who killed Charlie Kirk.
And while we have definitively uncovered a lot, that process has been somewhat delayed and complicated by the fact that we don't have access to Charlie's phone, Erica's phone, Dan Flood's phone, Mikey McCoy's phone logs, Frank Turek's phone.
Were we actually granted by the power of the courts the right to subpoena all that information?
I suspect we would have maybe solved this thing even before his memorial, before the quote-unquote event of the century.
So thank you.
We welcome that opportunity, Laura.
That is literally what we are doing here.
That aside, something else that began trending last night, some internet sleuth, who I should have figured out who this was, full credit to whoever that internet sleuth was.
They detected an interesting difference in the Charlie Kirk home studio set.
So he has his studio at home and a studio at the office.
And at his home studio set, he has a wedding picture.
And I'm going to explain to you why this wedding picture suddenly matters.
So Charlie's last live appearance before he was assassinated was from his home studio, at least, was on September 8th.
This is the date that I believe Erica was actually at Fort Huachuka.
Well, despite having just arrived on a flight back from Tokyo, shortly before midnight on the 7th, Charlie Kirk was awake and he did one hour of the Charlie Kirk show on the 8th from his studio, where he recapped what he loved about Korea and Tokyo.
And in the background, you can see that Charlie has a wedding photo.
Okay, this is the morning of September 8th, just to put that in your mind really quickly.
Here is that wedding photo behind him, which you can see.
And I also think that that's available on both of their Instagram accounts.
Okay.
On September 9th, he went into the office and by September 10th, midday about, he was assassinated.
We are told that following that tragic ending, Erica could not even or didn't want to move any of his items out of their place in their bedroom, bathroom.
That's what she told the New York Times a few days later when she welcomed them into that apartment, the one that you're seeing there.
Well, then fast forward to December 12th, and as a part of her Shabbat Shalom PR Blitz, she conducted her very first interview from Charlie's home office.
She gave that interview to Glenn Beck.
And during that interview, she was playing the part, as you are about to see, of this is my first time back in his office.
And she keeps looking down and she says, sorry, I'm looking down.
I'm just looking at all of these things that Charlie left over on his desk.
The obvious insinuation to the public being that she had not yet traversed into that space.
She had not gone through the things.
She had not seen the last things that he wrote on the notepad.
And yet, curiously, that wedding photo is missing.
Okay, the internet was correct to call that out.
Take a listen to what she tells Glenn Beck.
I'm actually sitting in his office.
This is his home office.
And I have not been in here for a very long time.
And I've just been, that's part of the reason why I keep looking down.
It's not because I'm not wanting to look at you.
It's because like there are so many treasures in here.
Like, for instance, like this piece of paper.
He wrote on everything.
He has papers everywhere.
This says, it's the priorities.
It says family, children, legacy, kids number one versus careerism, consumerism, and loneliness.
That's interesting.
I don't know.
I could spend hours in this at this desk, but my point is with little things like that is that he would sit here on Sundays writing, using his journal, like going through all these drawers, He was preparing for the week ahead.
You hear her say that she had not been in there in a long time.
So the internet was correct to spot that oddity.
If this really is your first time in his office, the first time looking down at his desk, who moved the frame behind his head?
No person in their right mind would go into the home of a grieving widow and move a photo of her and her husband from their wedding day without explicit permission.
So what actually happened there?
We have a couple of options.
Let's go through them.
Option A, which I just want to say is my favorite option always.
Andrew Colvett went rogue.
Andrew Colvett went rogue.
He was over there.
And the next thing you knew, he was fumbling and mumbling in the office.
And he was like, and this wedding picture is coming with me for no reason.
I might even tweet about it.
He just can't help himself, Andrew Colvett.
He's out of control.
It's raging through Charlie's belongings.
That's one of the options.
Then there's an option B, which was the internet's immediate reaction.
They said, Erica removed it.
Why would she remove it?
Erica is evil.
Why would she do this thing?
But I would like to push back on that notion.
I do not accept that option at all.
I definitively do not believe that that is what happened because that is, that would be the exact opposite of the very intentional PR messaging that has come out of Turning Point USA since Charlie died.
At every waking moment, even when Charlie was lying in his casket, they were ever intentional.
They wanted the public to recognize that Erica was Charlie's husband.
Erica's husband was gone.
Erica and Charlie, Erica.
She even intentionally used phrases like my Charlie in her initial speech, which was written in large part by Blake Neff, by the way, I'm told.
Plus, in subsequent fundraising letters and emails, they wanted the public to know that it was quote unquote, my Charlie, to remind them over and over again, that's her husband.
That's her husband.
The intention was to lay, of course, the emotional groundwork for the sudden transfer of power.
The idea being she's actually half of Charlie, so nobody should question anything.
Charlie thought she was great and you should think she's a great.
Nobody wonder, nobody should be thinking or asking a question whether or not she's qualified to be the CEO and chairman.
What's my point I'm making?
No, Erica is not the person that moved that picture.
In fact, it would be much more likely that Stacey Sheridan would have added that picture to the background.
They would have said, okay, we're in his office.
What are we going to do?
Oh, let's put up some stuff behind to remind people that this is her Charlie and how happy they were and how in love they were.
So that really only leaves us with one other option.
And that option would be that Charlie himself moved the frame.
And he would have had to do this on the ninth, the day before his assassination.
And what would have happened thereafter is Erica simply didn't realize it.
It's actually, if you think about it, a rather minor detail, and they certainly would have been completely consumed with everything that was going on.
They would not have been focusing on whether or not the background matched when she first sat down at that desk in the wake of his death.
Not even the internet sleuths recognized that we've been spending hours on this and we did not recognize it.
Until now, about six months on, people are going, wait, this is a minor detail that feels kind of major.
So here's what, that is the option I think most likely happened.
It was a genuine oversight.
And guess what, guys?
Our toddler clues with my dog blue are beginning to add up.
Okay, let's start with that as our very first clue, which is, of course, Erica sitting at Charlie's desk without the wedding photo in the background.
Okay, there's our clue right there.
What could it mean?
Hmm, let's keep going.
Certainly an odd redesign, but without more clues, we can't put together the picture.
It's just not how this game works.
But there are more clues.
There's always more clues in every episode.
Because then, when we get into, we go backward and we pay attention to things that Erica told us, we begin to re-examine what I now deem to be an objectively unintelligible story about how Charlie was so excited for the tour, despite the fact that he speaks at college campus, college campuses virtually every week, but he was so excited specifically for this event that he couldn't sleep, and also something about his daughter being in bed and he had to go have a good night's sleep.
I want you to listen to this now with new ears in retrospect.
And if you see a clue, I want you guys to shout out this, shout out the screen.
Say, a clue, a clue.
Let's listen.
For him, that night, he was so excited.
I mean, he just was like, I can't wait.
It's going to be the best.
And he got up around 2:45, 3-ish to go into the kitchen to grab a snack.
And our daughter had woke up around that same time.
We live in a small space, so you can kind of hear when everyone's kind of shuffling around.
And so she came to our room and she stayed in our bed.
And he always loved when Gigi slept in our bed because she's, you know, little ones, they like curl up inside of you and like they're just nuzzled in.
And but she, you also know that it can be very acrobatic when a three-year-old is in your bed and somehow their feet end up on your face.
So I said, I want you to have a good night's sleep.
Go ahead and sleep in her room.
And I'll turn the air down so it's nice and cozy in there.
And I just want you to get a good night's sleep so you can be amazing tomorrow.
And so Gigi and I stayed in our room.
And that morning he woke up super early and he came into our bedroom, into the bathroom, because that's where his wedding ring was and his necklace.
And he came in and he grabbed that and then he left.
I didn't even get to give him a kiss goodbye.
Well, what's that?
In the chat, people are saying, a clue, a clue.
Did you guys see clues?
Oh, okay.
Well, let me revisit that.
Let me actually reiterate what Erica is saying happened the night before because it doesn't make any sense.
She says, Charlie was so excited.
And then she quotes, he was like, I can't wait.
It's going to be the best.
End quote.
It's a quotation from Charlie.
I can't wait.
It's going to be the best.
Okay.
Can I ask why?
Why was UVU going to be the best?
Has Charlie never been to UVU before?
No, he has actually been with me.
I've done UVU with him.
I honestly have done a lot of college events.
I've never seen this level of excitement to go sit down with a bunch of teenagers, mostly who are overcoddled by their parents and who are going to be shouting all sorts of questions like you.
It was going to be the best.
We already did it.
Why was it going to be better?
I feel offended.
I thought we had a good experience up at UVU.
Certainly wouldn't have described it as the best and wouldn't be on the brink of my seat looking to go back, itching to go back to UVU.
So that's weird.
I just would like to ask why.
She then says that Charlie woke up for a snack at 2:45 in the morning.
And apparently he was so loud, the apartment's small, and maybe it was his excitement.
He's like, UV, you, yeah, I'm so excited.
Who knows?
Okay, we're not clear on that.
But the implication is that's what woke up her three-year-old daughter at 2:45 in the morning.
That's not when toddlers at the age of three wake up.
Okay.
These are sleep-trained toddlers.
Okay.
Gigi wakes up at 2:45, three-year-old kid, who should be in the REM stage of sleep.
Toddlers knock out.
Maybe, maybe Gigi is a light sleeper.
It's also just curious that they're all awake.
It's 2:45 a.m. in the morning.
I don't know what's going on.
But the resolution, she's clear on.
The resolution to this sort of pre-dawn procuse is that Gigi is going to sleep in Charlie's bed and because she wanted him to be amazing and rested.
Well, first off, you said it's 2:45, 3 a.m.
I think I feel like the train has already left the station in terms of being rested.
I want to remind you guys: Charlie is then going to, he has a flight scheduled to leave at 6:30 a.m.
So if you're up at 3, you're probably, we can already say goodbye to the idea of feeling amazing for the next day's flight, which is at 6.30 a.m.
And if you were really able to power down that quickly and power back up, you probably would want to do that in your own bed.
Usually people, when they go overseas or even just sleep in a different bed other than their own, they're in a hotel locally for a long time.
You just can't wait to get back in your own bed.
I think that's generally speaking.
You're like, yes, I'm back in my own bed.
And if I want a good night's sleep, I'm going to do that in my own bed, not in my toddler's bedroom.
I'm going to assume that bed is not the same size as the size of their bed.
Charlie's Early Morning Flight00:09:40
But Erica, whatever, feels like it's an opportunity for him to feel amazing at 3 a.m. and to go into Gigi's bed.
That's the best place to do that, or Gigi's room.
Okay.
While Gigi sleeps in her mother's bed, just little swap sees there at 3 a.m. in the morning, totally casual.
I'm starting to get a feeling that there might have been another reason that the daughter woke up, but stick with me.
Maybe there's noise, not from excitement, but maybe an argument.
Maybe there was an argument.
That would make more sense to me, especially when we add in how she concludes that portion by telling us that Charlie took off his wedding ring during that same night, which is why he, of course, then had to put it back on the next morning.
And Erica says he snuck in the next morning to put that wedding band on.
I immediately, immediately clocked that.
Even when that interview was live, I said, that's weird just because I know Charlie, but I couldn't explain that to the audience.
I know Charlie.
Charlie's the kind of person who could sleep with his boots on, like this little ring.
I don't know virtually any men.
Truly, I don't know any, but obviously I'm assuming there are.
Maybe you've got a funky little band and maybe your hands swell in a summer.
I don't know that like meticulously take that little band off.
Charlie doesn't strike me as the type of person who would do that.
I said that seems a little off.
I also want to add this little tidbit.
Erica is, as you're going to see, exceedingly uncomfortable discussing Charlie's final day.
Fox News had to use a lot of cuts, a lot of, you can, now that I'm telling you that and you watch, you're going to go, oh, yeah, they're cutting and kind of like putting her answer in a different place, very obviously and poorly edited out entire portions when Jesse asks her a fairly simple question.
Tell me about the day before the shooting.
That would be Charlie's last full day on earth.
Take a listen to how she responds to that.
Tell me about the day before the shooting.
He was at the office and we were going to meet for dinner beforehand with a dear friend of ours who I wanted to just be with us and pray with us before the event.
It's no hidden secret that stuff on campus is heating up.
You see people on campus coming on with guns prior to the event that happened with Charlie, the assassination with Charlie.
And so I know that, you know, you and I even even talked about how I used to say, you know, Charlie, have you ever thought about wearing a vest?
He would nod to that and be like, you know, I've looked into it.
But he'd always say, if they're going to get me, they're going to get me.
He wasn't afraid.
Wouldn't have mattered anyways if you wore a vest.
Erica's mom was dealing with a medical issue, so she stayed in Phoenix to care for her.
She planned to join Charlie at the next scheduled turning point event at Colorado State just a few days later.
He was like, home needs you.
Home needs you.
Be home.
Come with me on Thursday to the next event we have.
They just didn't, she doesn't want to address.
I've looked everywhere.
Like I would like to know more about Charlie's last day.
I can obviously put together what Frank said.
I can put together what his schedule was.
But that's not a question that she's comfortable answering.
And by the way, that dear friend she's referencing, of course, we now know is a priest, a priest that came over to pray over Charlie and Erica's marriage the night before is what I am told.
Not Charlie being stressed over an article written by a leftist, which happens every 10 seconds in our world.
I'm told.
Let's now try to put these clues together, just to recap.
Okay, clue number one, Charlie did not sleep in his own bed despite returning from a long trip to Asia.
Number two, Charlie's wedding ring was taken off.
Number three, Charlie removed, I think I'm saying this, I'll say allegedly, I think it was Charlie who removed his wedding photo from his homestead.
I think that's where he went into his office for a bit.
Number four, a priest came over to pray the night before.
Again, when I take out my handy dandy notebook and I put a picture together using basic logic and not trying to look at all these different directions and all these possibilities, I know there's that one kid in the back of the class and you say, well, what do these clues tell you?
And he raises his hand and he says, it tells me that Tyler Robinson shot Charlie.
He acted alone on top of a rooftop.
But that kid would be an idiot, actually.
That could be an idiot because the picture that is starting to emerge is that Charlie's last day consisted of a lot of arguments.
Okay.
Arguments over his shifting away from the pro-Israel position, him communicating to people that he was over it, that he did not want the money, him communicating to people that he wanted to bring me back to Amfest.
He was very clear in telling people that on the ninth day before he died.
And when I look at the fact that Charlie is, or Erica's not able to account for what happened the night before, and she's kind of cagey and answering and she's giving us more about how Gigi sleeps and moves in bed than she is about what Charlie was doing, other than getting a snack, I feel, and I could be wrong, that there was a knock'em dead argument that happened.
That's what makes logical sense to me about what I don't know.
That's what makes sense.
Because they have not been honest in their portrayal about what the relationship was.
And I will leave it at that.
This idea of this amazing, godly relationship with no, that's that is not accurate.
And it would not have been relevant if Erica had kept it honest throughout this entire process.
But she's not.
She's getting caught in a lot of lies.
And when I go back and I revisit the way she tells the lies, I feel very strange about it.
I feel weird watching these clips back.
And I want you to see that.
Lastly, I want to bring the Glenn Beck interview back up because hindsight, like I said, is 2020.
And I want you to pay attention to how she lies.
Now that we know this is a lie, it's crazy to watch how performative she is in trying to deliver the lie so that it's believable to the masses.
Remember, Charlie messaged multiple people saying that he thought they were going to kill him the night before.
I feel like it wasn't just a snack that he wanted.
I think there was some anxiety.
He discovered something and things weren't good.
I don't think it was a peaceful night's sleep the night before.
Well, Erica, at this moment, when she is about giving this interview to Glenn Beck, remember, this was the PR blitz, she's shutting that rumor down before she realizes that I know more information.
Watch how she sells this lie.
Take a listen.
I know the tour, that was the first stop of the tour.
And I know you two had met with your priest the night before.
And do you think Charlie knew to some degree and had made the conscience, the conscious choice that I may be taken out early, not saying he knew that that day, but that he had any inkling that this might come his way and that he intentionally chose to move forward with faith in God?
It's interesting because we always have, I mean, I still, I have unbelievable amounts of death threats.
My kids have kidnapping threats, death threats.
Our whole team has death threats.
We knew that there was always going to be a threat, but Charlie and I always, we promised each other we would never live in fear.
And he would say, if they're going to get me, they're going to get me.
But he was not messaging people the day before saying, I'm going to be murdered.
They're coming after me.
Someone's going to kill me.
He didn't say that.
And I had his cell phone.
Didn't say that.
And so what I do know is that we believe in the power of prayer.
And what I do know is that we believe in our sovereign God.
And what I do know is that that night before, we did what we usually did before tours.
We said our prayer and we asked the Lord to protect us.
And we asked the Lord that his will be done.
That's what we did.
All I'm saying is it hits different in retrospect.
She's selling that.
I have his phone.
He never said it.
It was chill.
Everyone was chilling.
Me, the priest.
Charlie wasn't going Catholic, but we just like to chill priest.
Everyone was chilling.
It was great.
I have his phone.
So, hmm, haters, wrong.
That's acting.
That is acting.
And we have, then we're told, oh, it's because he had messaging at.
Not true.
Dan Flood messaged on iMessage.
So who deleted it?
If it wasn't Erica, maybe she really is being taken by a ride by everyone around her.
But the messaging has been that that's not possible.
Remember, that's simply not possible.
There's no way that any CEO could be surrounded by stakes.
But if she is being taken by a ride, she would by now be very aware of that.
So I don't really excuse that.
Did somebody else delete the message?
Did Kash Patel come in and delete the messages?
Maybe.
I don't know.
I think it's very strange that she was even allowed to have the phone back so quickly or at all.
I don't think they ever even seized the phone, if I remember correctly.
But I would sure be interested in finding out what's in that telephone.
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I understand the MAGA party is over.
It got infiltrated by a bunch of losers.
But why must we be forced to watch it bleed out slowly?
This feels like it's just a humiliation ritual at this point.
Even the way that BB Net Yahoo shows up, I don't know if you saw yesterday, like a motorcade, bigger and longer and more secure than President Trump's when he travels.
I feel like he just does that because you got to imagine being BB Net and Yahoo, right?
He can do whatever he wants and nobody will check him.
Like he goes around telling presidents what they're going to do, how many people have to die, who he's going to assassinate, and people just take it.
And so it must be so boring for him.
And in order for him to feel any pleasure, he must only derive it from other people's pain.
You know what I mean?
There's something sadistic about the entire thing, watching what he's doing to Trump, Trump pulling out his chair, giving him a bigger, this huge motorcade to come in, helicopter above.
Nobody comes in like this.
That's how Bibbinet and Yahoo comes in.
And Trump, if you would think that he could be like, okay, I'm going to defend speech in America.
That's it.
This is the last relic of what MAGA is.
And he's doing the exact opposite.
And so President Donald Trump has this White House Religious Liberty Commission.
And of course, they were doing a hearing on anti-Semitism because that's what's happening.
That's the only thing that could be happening.
It's not like, you know, murder, the mass murder of hundreds of thousands of children that people are upset about.
It's just, it's just because the Jews are doing it, if you believe them.
And Carrie Prejean Bowler stood up and she said, This is unacceptable.
This hearing is unacceptable.
She was, and I'm not okay with any of this.
And what is the actual definition of anti-Semitism?
Because it just seems like it's everything these days.
And in case you need to rewind, you should go back and watch.
She made a lot of amazing remarks.
But here is effectively what she said.
I think on behalf of all of us regarding why everything seems to be anti-Semitism, even when it so clearly is not.
And really what is happening is we're being forced to support the state of Israel's demonic goals.
Take a listen.
Just to be clear, is anti-Zionism anti-Semitism?
Yes.
It is under IHRA.
Rabbi Shirk.
You're up next.
You're not sure?
So, what is the definition?
I would love to speak to that.
Undoubtedly, anti-Zionism is anti-Semitism.
And undoubtedly.
And one does not have to support the specific policies of the government of Israel, but to not support the right of Israel to exist, which is what anti-Zionists do, while not taking that same stand to the 28 Muslim countries and 13 Christian countries in this world, is a double standard, is hypocrisy, and is absolutely anti-Semitism.
I think it's also important that we not make Islamophobic remarks while we're here today.
I would appreciate that.
I just want to say God forbid was anything like that said.
But if you deny, if the Jewish people are the only people that you deny the right to have a Jew to have its own state, that is absolutely a double standard hypocrisy and anti-Semitism.
Well, as you know, I'm a Catholic.
I'm a Catholic, and Catholics do not embrace Zionism, just so you know.
So are all Catholics anti-Semites, according to you?
As I said, anti-Zionism by denying the right of the Jews to have their own state while not saying the same for any other peoples, that is a double standard hypocrisy and anti-Semitism.
So this is just a very bad talking point.
And I used to say this when I was under the Zionist demonic spell: this idea that why can't they have their own state?
Do you know what that's actually not an inherent right?
You actually don't have a right to say that I have a political philosophy and it's called Zionism.
And so what I'm going to do is I'm going to say that it's a race of people who have a right to mass murder people who have been on this land for thousands of years to take it, to hostily take over their homes, not pay them.
We're just going to murder you, take your home at gunpoint because Jews, of which many are Zionists, well, we don't have any other countries to ourselves.
Having a country to yourself is actually not a human right.
A human right is, you know, having access to drinking water, being able to live in a home that is yours without having somebody forcefully take it at gunpoint and murder your offspring.
And what they're basically saying is they're allowed to violate human rights because they've established a new one that they have a right to a state.
That's it.
So what I'm going to do, I love this.
I love what you're doing.
I love it.
I think it's great.
I'm going to just start my own religion.
And it's going to be called Kandicism.
And what it means is that anybody who is a candidist, if you deny the right for us to exist, we want all of Israel.
We want it all.
And if you, I'm sorry, well, why do Muslims have their own state?
Why do Christians have their own state?
We don't.
You're just saying this is a Muslim-majority country and this is a Christian majority country.
And you're saying that means we have our own state.
Actually, don't.
You're surviving off of welfare.
You can't defend yourself.
You're literally a welfare state in the Middle East that also is filled with a bunch of mass murderers.
It's being run by the Likud Party.
And effectively, what that is, is just a team of mass murderers.
That's what's happening.
And you're trying to now put this into the Bible that you have a right to do this, that you have a right to kill and slaughter children and rape people, which they've been caught doing on camera.
And no one can say anything because talking point.
So good for Carrie to deny that because you don't have, you actually do not have a right to your own state.
That's just made up.
You've just been saying it and brainwashing people to believe that that's a thing.
You couldn't just get a bunch of Scientologists to get up and say, oh, well, you know, why can't Scientologists have their own state?
Why can't we just take over all of America?
It's not a thing.
It's actually not a thing because Judaism is a faith and you do not just get the right to take what has never been yours and what you've never proven is yours.
In fact, the exact opposite.
What you've proven is that you're from Turkey somewhere and then you just deleted your books because you're constantly reprinting history.
And that's the true reason that you hate the Catholic Church because the Catholic Church remembers America was a young country.
You came in here.
You controlled the textbooks that were being written, like Robert Maxwell put us all through effectively a brainwashing program at the public school system throughout the public school system and taught us nothing about history, just Holocaust, Holocaust, Holocaust, Hollywood, Holocaust, Hollywood spin on the Holocaust.
Let's not talk about what the Bolsheviks did because we're the descendants of them in the middle, in the Middle East, and we're just going to now give ourselves names that sound Hebrew and we're going to learn Hebrew, which you did.
And no one can ask any further questions.
Well, we have further questions now.
Our people are waking up.
They're learning true history.
You can only twist the fabric of reality for so long before it snaps back.
And it seems to be snapping back for you guys pretty aggressively at this moment.
And so what they did, because Carrie said, yeah, no, you just can't mass murder kids.
And I don't care how you try to spin it.
It doesn't work for me.
What they did was they went ahead and they fired her because, you know, they have no power.
They're powerless.
They've been powerless since the Holocaust.
But then say, Christ is king, or say, no, I don't worship Israel.
And you're going to find out real quick how much power they have as they try to smear you, impact how much money you can make, and get you kicked out for being principled and having actually, well, biblical morals, morals fashioned by the Bible.
Thou shalt not kill, which I think true Jews would be like, yeah, that's right.
So, yeah, I think it's a good thing that Carrie got fired.
A star is born.
Carrie Prejean Baller got fired and it was announced on X after Zionists demanded she be removed.
The opposite thing will now happen.
She will be bigger than ever.
And people will abandon principles of you need to worship Israel, leave those churches, which in large part were like the Calvary Capital Church started by the CIA, and find true faith.
Here is how Dan Patrick announced it on X, by the way.
Carrie Prejean Baller has been removed from President Trump's Religious Liberty Commission.
Like nobody actually cares.
It's not 2015.
This isn't, it isn't cool to be Miga, because that's what it is, make Israel great again.
MAGA's dead.
Miga is in office.
We get it.
He continues: No member of the commission has the right to hijack a hearing for their own personal and political agenda on any issue.
This is clearly without question what happened on Monday in our hearing on anti-Semitism in America.
This was my decision.
Yeah, no, you're taking a ton of money from Zionists.
Can you just own that, Dan?
Do something decent, Dan.
Own the fact that you, like everybody else, is just outright purchased.
You're outright purchased by Israel.
The commission has done outstanding work through five hearings.
Two more are scheduled.
The testimony has been both illuminating and heartbreaking.
Under the Biden administration, Americans of all faiths had their religious liberty not only stolen from them, but were often punished for standing up for their faith in education, the military, the private sector, and even the ministry.
And so, in conclusion, what we're going to do is we're going to punish Carrie Prejean Baller for her faith, being a Catholic, Catholic and Orthodox.
Beware, okay?
Beware.
Because as we find our footing in America for the very first time, and people learn true history and understand what actually happened and learn what the Bolsheviks did, when people learn what was done to the Romanov family, learn that these people have a blood lust like you wouldn't believe, and recognize what I said yesterday: those chickens will come home to roost.
You stand by evil.
You better not be shocked when it comes back to hunt you.
And sadly, I wish that Charlie Kirk had listened to me because I warned him.
I warned him.
And he did.
He started pivoting.
I would say a year.
We started a year before he passed.
We started talking about the Catholic faith, the issues with Zionism.
I have many text messages to that effect.
By then, I think it was too late.
You can't go halfway with evil.
There's no halfway with Satan.
Satan's an orphan.
He is selfish.
And he will always come to collect.
And that's what I would like to say about that.
I also want to give you guys a quick update because this was hilarious to me.
I got in a few people reached out to me that were a part of the Super Bowl halftime show with Turning Point USA, which I told you is embarrassing for Republicans because now we're just pretending like we have an audience.
We're pretending that we are well liked.
The party is doing the right thing.
It's falling apart, obviously.
The problem party is very clearly falling apart and they're not acknowledging that reality.
And the Super Bowl example was exactly that.
Fake it till you make it.
We'll pay influencers.
We have money.
We are now running Hillary Clinton's campaign and we're too big to fail.
Well, that's how you end up with people crying on the ground when Hillary Clinton lost because they just weren't paying attention to how people all across America felt.
The populist move that was rising.
This is happening right now in the Republican Party.
So it's now flipped.
Zionists have taken over.
They're telling them they're too big to fill.
They're filling their ears, throwing money at them.
And the reality is, people aren't with it anymore.
But the audacity to just keep up that performance, it's like Hillary Clinton.
I've got Jay-Z and I've got Beyonce.
The audacity to claim that the Super Bowl, the alternative Super Bowl, was a success.
It should upset you.
It's such a lie.
It's just such an objective lie.
And it's not necessary.
It's okay to fail and you pivot.
Well, here's the reality of how this happens.
The person said, first and foremost, this was filled, filmed, which we already told you.
And they've said two weeks ago or weeks leading up to it in Fayetteville, Georgia.
There were actually only 180 people in the audience, and they used camera tricks to make it look like it was really filled.
They were just moved around the room to make it look more full.
And they had to do about three to five takes each on every song, except for Gabby.
They said she got it done in two.
They had no idea what they were signing up for.
The majority of the people didn't even agree once they got there and were told with doing a split halftime show.
A lot of them actually liked Bad Bunny.
Is it Bad Bunny?
Sorry.
Yeah, Bad Buddy.
I thought I said something else.
It was over two days of filming, Monday and a Tuesday, and they were kind of shocked that Erica was not present at all for that filming.
They did not meet her.
They felt like it was very weird.
And they also thought that it was going to be a bigger artist because they were told that they were going to contend with the halftime show.
And they didn't think that they were going to do that.
Like I said, a lot of them were fans of Bad Bunny and they were certain it was not going to rival that performance.
Like I said, songs being played performances three to five times so that they could further direct audiences, which they did, to fist pump and get excited.
They told me they were very tired because these were 12-hour days.
They were compensated $250 stipend for that.
They ran out of food.
On the first day, the food that was provided for them was Mediterranean food, which is just objectively hilarious for an all-American halftime show.
And the second day, they gave them tacos.
So I think Mexico won.
There was a holding room in between the takes, and they felt that there was no communication of why they were waiting for hours sometimes.
There were technical problems.
They also had the performers themselves were late and they were not told why.
They were just kind of in this holding space.
Except for Gabby Barrett, they said that she was early and she only needed to do her song twice.
So she was the strong exception.
They waited the longest for Kid Rock.
I don't think that's that surprising.
And that the person who was producing this, some guy named Matt, was trying to get them hyped by saying, there's a little birdie that told us that Trump is going to be watching our halftime show.
Like, you know, you got to like keep the slaves from revolting energy.
It's going to be great.
It's going to be amazing.
And obviously, he also said to them that this is going to get more views than the Bad Bunny halftime show.
And it's just objectively hilarious when you consider that Trump didn't even watch it.
Because remember, this actually broke.
It's this picture of Trump.
And the Bad Bunny halftime show is in the background.
He's at Bar-a-Lago.
So I don't know who the little birdie was.
Well, that's not true.
Turning point did cover their hotel rooms, but they were placed with a random person.
And yeah, they were told we need you to match Kid Rock's energy.
They signed an NDA with that.
NDA expired one hour after the show.
So that's your fake halftime performance.
And I'm just telling you what reality is, just so you understand what money can do.
It's unbelievable.
Again, no shot at the artists that were involved.
I like, especially, like I said, I really like Lee Bryce's music.
I listened to his music out of all of them.
And it sounds like Gabby was an extreme professional.
But it is the, what I'm commenting on here.
It's just really a commentary of watching conservatives do what Hillary Clinton did and just pretending and thinking that you can just fake it till you make it if you've got billions.
And that's just not, that's not how it works.
So let's take a brief break and we'll get back with some of your comments.
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Okay, top comment from last episode is: they don't believe we are stupid.
They believe we are powerless.
Yeah, that gets into what Bassim Youssef was saying.
He's like, even if they came out and they were like, yeah, we did that.
We killed Charlie.
Here's why.
BB is controlling the country.
And we will mass murder you.
What are you going to do?
Yeah, we got to get there in our minds.
What are we going to do?
We kind of know what's happened, what's going on, and what are we going to do with the Epstein files?
And if they admitted everything, if we just came out and said, yeah, we're into kids.
What are you going to do?
What would we do?
It's a great question.
I will leave it at that.
Rhetorical.
Madeline writes, I rewatched Candace's first episode where she talked about Charlie.
It was a mistake because I cried just like it had happened all over again.
Candace, you are making a difference.
So never stop fighting for Charlie.
Hashtag be a happy warrior, hashtag go max.
Thank you.
I obviously have not watched that and it was very, very difficult to get through.
Obviously, I don't even want to think about those first couple of weeks, to be honest.
Thank you, though, for your support.
GN writes, Candace's, Charlie's true story reminds me of a modern-day St. George.
The emperor tried every tactic to get his favorite soldier to worship pagan gods and persecute Christians.
Flattery, threats, riches, and a decree.
George refused, drew up the decree and rebuked him.
His story reminds me of a lot, to be honest with you.
And I think right now it's a cautionary tale.
Certainly, if you're in politics, if you have any sort of power, if you have any fame, you really need to look around and know that bigger does not necessarily always mean better.
People start to notice when you get too big.
Moderator Marzi writes, maybe you can get an interview with Milo to talk about the Epstein files.
He could give insight because he had that drama a few years back.
He talked about underage gay parties with adults.
Check his road interview.
Milo called This Behavior Out years ago.
I had it on the show recently.
I don't believe we spoke about the Epstein files, but you could find that episode if you just search for it.
Candace Owens and Milo.
Actually, I think we did speak a lot about a little bit about the Epstein files.
Don't quote me on that.
Angie Lynn writes, please check on an email sent this morning at 8:57 a.m.
Go Max.
I shall.
Chess Happy writes, I've seen more coverage about the abduction of the older lady than I have ever seen about Charlie Kirk.
I pray that the woman is returned safely, but my heart was stopped on September 10th, and my faith in the leaders of this country is shattered.
Christ is and will always be king.
Go Max.
Yeah, on that topic, Savannah Guthrie's mother.
Something about this, and obviously I hope she gets returned too.
So we're going to have to hold two thoughts at the same time here.
Obviously, a tragedy.
I hope her mother gets returned.
I can't imagine going through that, but something about this doesn't smell right.
And I'm referring to that same storyline of TMZ somehow gets the tape.
Like TMZ is a whole FedOp.
And then Kash Patel is on a plane being a little cowboy.
It's in cartel land.
We're back in Arizona.
It's in Pima County.
We spoke to you about if that was my mom, I would check out those Native American reservations because the feds do deals with them and nothing good goes on.
You can ask Native Americans about that, what the Feds allow to happen because they know they can get away with it because there's different rules.
I think even like down there at borders where Jeffrey Epstein's New Mexico house was, don't quote me on that, but I feel like somebody told me that that reservation extends out onto there.
Something about it doesn't feel right.
It feels fetty to me for some reason.
And I'm not sure why that is.
More information will come out.
And I do think that part of it was to distract us.
There's been so much focus on that.
Something else is afoot.
Amy writes, I wish I had a friend like you.
Truth Triumphs.
Becca writes, Erica at age 25 while living in Michigan had a very inappropriate relationship with a 15-year-old child.
It is sick what Erica messaged to this girl.
She groomed her for almost a year.
Please look into it.
God bless you, your family, and team.
I did look into that.
I watched Baron Coleman's episode and made some contact.
We'll tell you about that at a more appropriate time, which will probably be next, not next week.
We're taking the week off because we are putting, we want to get together our Erica series, which is, you know, not going to be like the Brigitte series, but just doing a general background, separating fact from fiction.
There has been some fiction.
People misread things, and there have been some facts, and there are still question marks.
So we'll give you more on that for sure.
Connor Finn writes, I got five on it plus an O for my girl CO.
Why am I so not hip that I don't know what plus AO for my girl CO means?
Is that a song?
Like, when did I become well?
I know the rap song.
I got five on it, but what's the AO for my girl CO?
Like, I want to know what that.
Oh, he donated 50 bucks.
Thank you, Skylar.
Why am I like this?
When did I become so uncool?
Well, me and my husband go out to the restaurant.
We're now the people that are like, could you turn down the music so we can hear each other talk?
And you know what?
The worst part of it all is: I love it.
I love going to bed early.
I love being up early.
I just, it's just, I'm old, guys.
I want you to know that.
But not right now, I got five on it plus AO for my girl CO.
Thank you, Connor.
Thank you for making me cool.
Alaska Dog Lady writes, We literally got booed when we said, I'm oh, we literally got booed when she said I'm a Catholic.
Yeah, they literally did.
And then she got fired, but they're the victims.
I'm gonna Catholic so hard this Lent.
Mass every day.
We ride at dawn on Ash Wednesday, down on Ash Wednesday.
I love that.
Yeah, America is at a turning point.
It's not the one they were hoping for when they took out Charlie Kirk.
I will tell you that much.
Barbara writes, Go Max.
The event after UVU was never planned.
Did Erica arrange her flight for that next event?
You are a genuine truth seeker.
God bless you and protect you and your family.
Always Christ is king.
Yeah, so I think two different events.
One was supposed to be, I think, at Colorado State.
The one that I'm referring to was the very next day.
And it was in the state of Colorado and at the Karis Bible College, and they did not have any arrangements for security.
Another glaring, obvious hole in the story.
And I don't think we're ever going to hear why that was, because everyone's just sort of trying to get the world to move on and stick this on a Tyler Robinson.
It's going, this is actually a critical case, by the way.
Tyler Robinson's case is critical because it's the final thing before we need to revolt.
If we just find out that they can do this, not a shred of evidence have they produced to tie this to Tyler Robinson.
Nothing.
And I told you when I sat down with Erica, they didn't have anything.
They weren't hiding anything.
People that were telling you that, oh, there's like, think, no, there was nothing.
Didn't have more than what was told to the public.
If they can just stick this on to a random kid, we got problems.
Like lots of problems.
So this is the final thing.
If the legal system is also just a joke, I mean, I guess you could say my loss with Brigitte is the same thing.
And they're just using it to go after certain people and to protect certain people, which we kind of know that.