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Now, imagine, if you would, that you were writing a Netflix series about a 19-year-old kid who had never been in trouble ever, actually.
He'd never been arrested, never committed any crimes.
He has a perfect ACT score, so he's also pretty brilliant.
But for whatever reason, you decide that this protagonist is going to become a murderer.
He's going to, one day, out of support for his trans furry lover, maybe he's the furry and the other guy, I don't really know.
The point is, is he's going to assassinate a political figure in broad daylight, who it should be mentioned, that particular political figure isn't exactly known for raging against the LGBTQ community.
But anyway, that's what this person decides to do: assassinate him.
So, one afternoon, he scales a rooftop at a university that he never attended, and he accomplishes what he set out to do.
He murders Charlie Kirk.
What would you expect that young man to do next?
If you're just trying to sell this as What you would expect someone to do next logically.
Well, today we are going to tell you where exactly Tyler Robinson went after he went to Dairy Queen.
And it's interesting.
And of course, it just pokes more holes in the Fed sloppy story.
So welcome back to Candice.
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Okay, let's jump into this.
It was allegedly Tyler Robinson.
He was allegedly acting alone on a rooftop, and it is allegedly supposed to have been the first time that he ever killed a human being.
So we, I think most people who are thinking through this, we naturally would expect a little bit of adrenaline, right?
Maybe even the thought of what he had just done for the very first time might have made him physically ill.
Like we would expect him to maybe lose his lunch, not exactly pop over to a nearby Dairy Queen to have lunch, calmly have lunch and just begin texting his lover.
Which is why I was very surprised to learn of what Tyler Robinson did thereafter.
Ready?
Tyler Robinson, we can exclusively confirm to you all, drove three hours away from Orem, Utah, down to Pangwich, Utah.
I hope I'm saying that right.
A lot of the cities sound weird.
I think it's Pangwich, Utah.
I'm showing you a map of that distance.
It is just under three hours to get there.
And what was he doing there?
You're probably wondering, did he meet up with somebody?
No, he was alone.
And what we can tell you that he did when he got there was that he pulled into the Cowboys smokehouse on North Main Street.
He grabbed himself a seat at the bar at this steakhouse and he ordered himself some more food.
Specifically, Tyler Robinson ordered a steak, medium rare, with mashed potatoes and vegetables.
There were three servers that were working that night.
And then after news exploded the following day and people began obsessively sharing, of course, the photo of the suspect Tyler Robinson having been captured after 33 hours.
Well, one of the servers recognized him as the person that was sitting at the bar the night before.
So they decided to huddle up with management and said, no, that person, Tyler Robinson, he was here.
He was eating a steak.
He was eating mashed potatoes.
Management said, Are you sure?
Are you positive that Tyler Robinson?
Yes, I'm absolutely sure.
Well, they don't have any cameras at this restaurant.
So what they decided to do was to verify that he was in the building, not by, of course, consulting outdoor video footage, which they didn't have access to, but rather just looking through credit card charges.
Because Tyler Robinson, despite telling his roommate how he wanted to get away with this, remember the messages and like, oh, here's what happened.
I don't want anybody to know.
Make sure you delete this letter that's under the keyboard, but take a picture of it before you delete it, but read it and then destroy it.
He's trying to get away with this, this crime.
Well, he used his credit card.
That's how they found it.
And so what they did was the right thing.
They contacted the feds.
Now, that's interesting because I would imagine that after 33 hours, 33 hours, when they sort of gloriously come out and yeehaw, we got him.
I would have, and call me crazy.
I don't know how this stuff works.
I'm not an expert, right?
We're not experts, but I would imagine the first thing that they would do is that they would probably just try to figure out where he'd been.
And maybe one way they would do that would be going through his credit card charges.
I would imagine the Fed, federal government had that capability, but they didn't do that.
Instead, they were contacted days later by this restaurant.
The server filed a report responsibly and said, Yeah, he was here.
We have the literal receipt, the literal receipt.
And they explained that Tyler Robinson was not very talkative.
He seemed absolutely fine and normal and was texting on his phone.
Maybe that's when he was sending more messages to his lover as he was eating a steak.
He was sure, hungry, is what I would say, but calm nonetheless.
He didn't have the jitters.
He wasn't scared.
He was just hungry.
Now, what's fascinating to me is what happens after, because again, I'm expecting that the feds would go, well, let us get down there.
Let us get down to Pangwich.
Let us start interviewing everybody.
Let's start checking all these cameras around here to see if we've got them.
No, no, that's all they did.
They sort of were obliged to call them back and to say, okay, what happened?
And then that's it.
The trail goes cold.
Now, remember, I told you guys that I spoke with the lawyer.
This would obviously be Erica's lawyer because she's also as the victim.
And they asserted that at this part in the process, what happens next is that the investigators, separate from Erica, are supposed to be, well, investigating.
They're supposed to be going around trying to gather more information to prove their case that this is definitely the shooter and he acted alone.
I would expect that they would have gone down to this restaurant.
I can tell you guys today, they have not.
Nobody is interested in going down to this restaurant and speaking with these employees and speaking with people nearby and seeing what they saw and learning about Tyler Robinson's demeanor because it's not that kind of an investigation, guys.
This is case closed.
Giddy up.
That's what he was.
It was just, he went down and he had himself a steak after he had some Dairy Queen.
Now, three hours is a long ride.
I get it.
He's probably hungry.
And I get that he used his credit card because I don't know.
I guess he's Gen Z. He's never heard of like DVDs and stuff.
They've always had the technological capabilities.
He doesn't even know what cash is.
He didn't even think about just going to an ATM and getting cash out to pull off this crime.
He thought through everything else, how to scale the rooftops, how to make this happen, where exactly Charlie was going to sit.
But everything else kind of falls apart afterwards.
All he could think about was getting food, and he decided the best way to try to get away with murder was to use his credit card.
Now, parking aside the fact that he's a 4.0 student with a perfect ACT score, he couldn't, that thought just never crossed his mind to just get, take cash out.
So here is what our now updated timeline looks like from that day.
It's been a while since we have revisited that.
And I think that we also need to revisit, which we are, the Dairy Queen stop because it had to have occurred earlier than we had initially documented.
It definitely happened, but I think the timeframe of the stop is wrong because if we need three hours to get from Orem down to Panguich, and I have confirmed that that happened, again, there was a literal receipt and the FBI knows about it and has that in their possession, then it's got to be earlier, right?
It's got to be slightly earlier that he went to Dairy Queen, which would track for me because if we know that he was throwing clothes out in the Dairy Queen, that's probably going to be a little bit closer to the shooting and he's not going to hang around.
So here's what we have: we have that press conference that happens at 5:30.
At 5:59, Kash Patel tweets that the subject erroneously tweets, the subject in custody has been released because, sorry, they had erroneously tweeted that they had him before that.
And he says our investigation continues.
After 6 o'clock p.m. is when we are gauging the first correspondence to have taken place between Tyler and Lance based on the conversation that they were having.
6:38 is when we initially had when that photo was taken, that photo was captured at the Dairy Queen.
And I will update that for you guys.
I am going back and trying to be more precise, wondering if that needs to be adjusted by an hour.
Maybe it was actually 5:38 p.m. and time zones were wrong.
I'll follow up with you guys there.
And now we can add that 8:45 p.m., that's the time approximately that Tyler turned up in Panguich, Utah.
Again, that is three hours away from Orem.
He has a meal at the bar counter and then he leaves around 9:30 p.m.
Remind you guys that he is fine.
He's in a totally fine mood.
And he appears to be, he is texting while he is eating, not speaking much to the servers.
So, when I spoke to the people who had reported this, they suspect, and I think this is a good suspicion, a good instinct to follow, that he may have gone to his grandma's house afterwards, because apparently that's where his grandmother is from, and she lives nearby.
And if you guys recall, Tyler Robinson's grandmother was one of the first people to speak out and she said, You have the wrong person.
She said, My grandson does not fire guns.
My grandson did not commit this murder.
And so, since I am learning that she is from around here and that she is a local and everyone's familiar with her, they know who she is.
I would imagine that it's possible that Tyler Robinson could have gone to his grandmother's house for the night.
Again, we don't know that as a fact.
I am putting it out there because this is an investigation.
And by the way, if you are somebody who is around the or rather operates a business around the cowboy smokehouse, you may have footage that you're not even aware of.
If you have information, maybe the feds called around.
I don't know.
Please, we are inviting you to send us an email to more tips at candaceowens.com, but we can now officially plot that in our timeline.
And it just makes the feds story more just unbelievable, just unbelievable, is what I would say.
Nothing they are saying makes any sense.
We can also add this to the list of things that stories that we have broken because one of my favorite things ever is how no matter how many stories we break, no matter how many, how much information we provide, the haters will forever say, she has presented no evidence.
They're just going on vibes in a dream on the Candace show.
That's it.
She had a dream and now she's just blindly pointing the finger at everybody.
And so I actually decided while we were on break that I had time to put together a list.
And this is by no means definitive.
This is just a list of stories that we have broken on this show.
So here we go.
Charlie's text messages.
That was a pretty big one showing that he was, in fact, abandoning the pro-Israel cause 48 hours before he was assassinated, despite the fact that everyone lied about that fact.
We presented the photo of Tyler Robinson at the Dair Queen on the day of the assassination.
Tyler Robinson, we are telling you today, then went to the cowboy smokehouse that evening and likely, I should put likely there, avoided traffic lights.
We can also tell you that Tyler Robinson called out of work on the 11th.
That's another story I'm breaking here.
He was citing food poisoning.
He called out of work very early in the morning on the 11th, and he also called out of work on the 10th, saying that he had to help his grandmother move furniture.
That is an interesting data point that I would like to present to you.
Again, he is using his grandmother as an excuse.
I think that if I was the federal government and I had unlimited resources, if I was the state government and I had unlimited resources in the form of people's tax dollars, I would probably be wondering if he went to his grandmother's house that night.
Just saying.
Tyler was working at Wild Electric, by the way, in Santa Clara, Utah.
I did not break that story.
That was already in the news, but you may have missed that.
And yeah, that was his excuse.
He had to help his grandmother.
I also broke the story about Charlie's Catholic considerations.
I didn't even mean to break that one, but then I had to present the receipts because people were acting crazy about him attending Mass, praying the rosary, that he died wearing a St. Michael pendant, and that he had a private Catholic funeral mass.
I also broke the story regarding Terrell Farnsworth's strange behavior moments after the assassination.
I broke probably the biggest story of all, actually.
It is the only reason that we are still discussing this.
It's the only reason that we realized the single reason, the first reason, rather, the primary reason that we recognized the feds were lying to us was because I broke the story that there was no blood on the back of Charlie as he went down, that the bullet did not pass through.
I also presented to you guys the photos from inside Charlie's SUV after his assassination.
I broke the story that the feds did not impound that vehicle.
Broke a story that the feds seized the cameras inside the hospital, that the feds blocked Dr. Trotter from returning to his operating room, and that a phone call was then placed to DC.
We are still trying to figure out to whom, who received that phone call, which allowed Dr. Trotter to go back into his operating room.
We broke the story that Andrew Colvett lied about the Superman neck.
That quotation never came from Dr. Lee Trotter at all.
It allegedly came from Erica in a moment of upset.
We broke the story that Charlie texted Dan Flood and Andrew Colvet the night before, saying that he was afraid that they were going to kill him.
This has now been confirmed by Eric Aru, at least it was confirmed to me from Erica.
We broke the story that Netanyahu called Charlie to make an offer to take Turning Point to the next level.
That story is being disputed by Erica.
That's a turning point on Turning Point fight, okay?
I don't know who to believe, but I will say that I confirmed that separately from Andrew Colvet with someone that did not have communication with Andrew Colvett.
So I tend to believe that that offer did indeed come through.
We broke the story about Fort Huachuca and we're not done with that.
We presented the military police report, backed that up with evidence that Mitch was telling the truth about what happened on September 9th.
We broke the story about the Egyptian trains, Egyptian planes, pardon me, tracking Turning Point Faith.
That document we still have for you, which is coming forward.
We will be proven correct on that as well.
We broke a story about the bomb dogs failing to detect the recently discharged weapon on September 10th, and that it was actually the feds that then directed a rookie police officer, three rookie police officers, to find it.
We also broke the story of the massive check that was coming to Turning Point USA from Pierre.
Is it Pierre DuPont?
Is it Pierre Falcone?
I think it's Piero Falcone.
I really do believe it's Piero Falcone for a lot of reasons.
We are still looking for more information.
So, when it comes to receipts and evidence, we have been presenting a lot of it.
And we are getting no credit for it.
We don't care.
We don't want credit, actually.
What I want is for this to be solved.
I want to know who killed Charlie Kirk, and I don't believe it was Tyler Robinson.
And on that note, we should get back to the Fort Huachuca story because this has proven to be a very interesting lead.
We have a couple of interesting updates to add to that.
First and foremost, I should say, for good measure, that Turning Point USA would like us to clarify that while, yes, it is true the tent idea was initially brought up by Elizabeth McCoy, it was ultimately a group decision to move forward with the idea, a group decision between the events team and the exhibitor hall team.
Now, the idea from them was that at future tour stops, people would use that tent to grieve and to share their thoughts about how Charlie had changed their lives.
I think, just as a, you know, just a spectator here, there are other ways to grieve, and you can still share stories about how Charlie changed your life.
You don't need to be under the tent that he was murdered in.
That's just my feedback there.
Second update, this time regarding Fort Huachuka as well.
Erica has submitted another follow-up text regarding her whereabouts on the 8th.
Now, you will recall, as I told you yesterday, that the issue with the first message that she provided, which was purportedly a conversation between her and Charlie about dinner on the evening of the 8th, was that the contact name was blocked on the message, was blacked out on the message.
I had received that, by the way, on December 28th.
I immediately said, Hey, could you unblock that or uncover that rather?
And I followed up about four to five times, just trying to get that before we came back onto the podcast.
I just said, you know, I just want to see the contact number shown.
Well, when I got off air yesterday, I had a follow-up, but it unfortunately was not what we were looking for or what we had asked for.
It was just a Charlie Kirk contact card, just like this is Charlie Kirk's contact card in my phone.
Now, I should add here that I am obviously working through a third party, and they made it clear that Erica has been tied up with something personal.
So, that's the reason for the delay.
There were six sick kids as well throughout the holiday, so there's just been a delay on getting that.
But I wanted to let you guys know where we are at.
No response at all from Brian Harpole.
I've told you that several times, or relatedly, Dan Flood.
Now, Dan Flood was not seen at Fort Huachuca, but he does have communication with Brian Harpole.
So, I wanted to exhaust every effort to get to the bottom of where these individuals were, specifically Brian Harpole and Erica Kirk.
Now, regarding Mark Amade, you'll remember that I Mitch had described a person who he was sure was a congressman.
He felt that it was a congressman.
And I told you that we looked up congressman that fit the description of what he was telling us: 5'9 glasses, grayish white hair.
And we came up with Mark Amade and he said that that face looks familiar.
Then Mark Amade came out and he had dropped a YouTube video of a live stream of him on a committee.
And then X came back and said, he actually missed the first two roll calls.
This was a 12-hour House committee video.
We certainly did not have the time to parse through it in our last episode last year.
I did, of course, make that a priority during break.
I did go through that 12-hour footage.
And I would like to now state unequivocally that I think his story checks out.
Now, I realize there's been some confusion because he does in fact miss those first two roll calls.
But people then pointed out to me in the comments that he does appear.
You can see him on the screen early on.
It is blurry, but that early on where he's sitting, it looks like in his chair, when I visually look at it, it looks like Mark Amade to me before the roll call.
Now, it's certainly by no means definitive, but I think it is indeed very likely that the person that we see on camera is Mark Amade early on in the hearing.
And I am not here to try to make someone fit into the story.
I want to actually find the right person and eliminate the wrong people.
And to be clear, like I said, Mitch initially contacted me about just Erica Kirk and Brian Harpole.
Brian Harpole being the big one, this meeting, this hands-on meeting that looked like mission is on the table.
Let's go.
Break right before mission.
That's how it was described to me.
Now, regarding Mark Amade, there is someone else that I believe that we should look into.
Okay.
Follow one lead.
If it doesn't lead where we think it's going to go, we can pivot and something interesting has come up.
Now, I will start by restating: I have never felt good about Terrell Farnsworth.
Okay.
Not since that very first phone call I had with him.
In fact, the phone call I had with him, I can say, was the very first moment that I went, something's not right here.
I told you guys, he just started lying to me repeatedly, weird.
His energy was weird.
I was like, what's going on?
Why are you being weird?
I'm calling you because I'm just trying to let the public know, like, you know, why you took the cameras out.
I'm sure there's a logical reason.
It is kind of weird that you're there.
Why are you there?
He's all over the place.
And again, this is not in the immediate aftermath.
This is not first 48.
We've got the jitters.
Charlie Kirk's killed.
This is like a week past that.
And I expressed repeatedly to my audience that something was not right with that phone call.
As soon as I hung up, I said to my team, and I'm quoting myself here: that man is guilty of something.
He's guilty of something.
He's lying about weird stuff.
I don't know how to send a file.
What do you mean?
You run an entire AV company.
You know how to send a file over the internet.
Well, I'm scared Google might hack me.
What?
You're scared Google's going to hack you to release more footage of Charlie dying?
That makes no sense.
Nothing made sense.
And I will never pretend it made sense.
And I'm following my gut on Terrell Farnsworth.
Okay.
And I expressed my gut, not just to you and back at home, but I also expressed that to Erica and Justin Strife when we were sitting in the meeting.
I said, I'm not taking my foot off of that pedal.
No.
I do think that it's worth stating before we get into this that me finding the behavior and the conversation that I had with Terrell to be extremely suspicious is not, of course, an invitation to harass him or his family.
I'm against that.
And I'm saying that because apparently he is receiving death threats.
That was told to me that he's receiving death threats because people want answers.
Now, not ever do I ever want that to happen.
I don't want people to watch this show and partake in that.
Nor do I think you guys are partaking in that, but I'm just saying that.
Like on this show, we sentence people to truth, to more daylight.
And the reality is that I don't trust people who lie repeatedly to me over the phone.
I don't.
He was acting guilty during a time when I had no indication one way or the other whether or not turning point people would be involved in a cover-up.
And for clarity, I want to show you guys this as well, exclusively, a still image of the much longer video I have that was shown to me of Charlie from behind.
Okay, this is the video.
And you can see What we have there, that's Charlie's necklace that's hanging.
There's no blood on Charlie.
There was absolutely no blood on Charlie.
Not only did the bullet not go through, it didn't even cause any sort of destruction.
And I follow that video until he goes down.
There's nothing that we would expect to see from A30OT6.
And again, I have a close-up of this.
That's his chain.
There's no question that what you are seeing there is his chain.
And the only blood that I saw was blood in his hand, which was spurting forward, to be clear.
This doesn't make sense to me.
It doesn't make sense to the narrative.
It doesn't make sense to anybody that knows anything about guns.
It just doesn't.
Okay, Charlie was in pretty good shape, except for where he had the wound on his neck that we all saw, the graphic video that we all saw that was circulated online.
Now, I'm going to add here that another person who I do not trust at all for many reasons, because one of them being he's a sexual deviant, he's also been indicted for crimes by the state of Arizona, federal crimes for which he was recently pardoned by President Donald Trump.
I think it's fair to assume that a person who commits crimes in the past might commit crimes in the future, or I guess allegedly committed crimes.
I think those court cases are still moving through.
I think that's a perfectly logical assumption that a person who's involved in doing the wrong thing might keep it up.
A person that seems motivated by money, a person who factually was in debt and was having his payments garnished at Turning Point USA, who then blinks and becomes a millionaire working for a charity, might be a little bit shady.
I think Tyler Boyer, it is a logical conclusion that he is at best a very shady character.
I'm going to stand by that.
10 toes down.
Now, because I was hyper-fixed on Tyler Boyer, I decided to ask Erica in person during our sit-down how she met Tyler.
It was actually, I had three questions when I went in there that I wanted to get the answer to.
That was actually my number one question because I don't know much about the story of how Tyler met Charlie Kirk.
And I now desperately wish that I remember, that I could remember what Charlie told me about that.
How did they get linked up?
And I felt that me asking Erica that question, she might be able to provide a lot of insight to who Tyler Boyer was during the time he was with Charlie Kirk, why, maybe even before he was with Charlie Kirk, and why he got involved with Charlie Kirk.
And of course, as we know, Erica knew Tyler for years before her and Charlie began dating, right?
Both she and Tyler have been honest about that fact, particularly citing Trump's 2015 presidential rally as an event where the two of them attended together, right?
Standing behind Donald Trump in Arizona at his 2015 July rally, which I should mention also.
Her mother, Laurie Fransfield, in the background.
So the three of them have known each other since at least July 2015 publicly.
So I asked Erica how she met him.
Her answer was that she met him at the 2015 rally because they were both standing behind Trump.
And I immediately corrected her.
I said, that's not possible.
It's not possible because Tyler discussed knowing you already at the, if we're calling it funeral rally, to people, I don't even know if that's kind of what it was, like a funeral political rally.
Tyler got on stage and he told the audience that Erica had called him asking how she could get involved and that he then made a decision to put her behind Donald Trump.
Here is Tyler making that statement in his own words at Charlie Kirk's Memorial.
So she called, she said, I wanted to help, and he put her behind the president.
So I'm sitting with her, and she doesn't remember how she met him, but she said that she would look back through old messages because, like me, she never deletes any of her messages.
And she thought maybe specifically, she said that they had a connection in politics via a senator or a congressman.
That's what she said.
Now, in hindsight, after that meeting, because I have continued to prod the narrative on Terrell and Tyler, I believe that's accurate.
I thought, that's interesting.
Who were the congressmen?
Who were the congressmen that Tyler maybe knew?
Well, I should tell you guys that Terrell Farnsworth and Tyler Boyer go back.
They go way back.
I'm talking generationally back, okay?
Terrell Farnsworth, Farnsworth's parents went to high school with Tyler Boyer's parents.
They're all from Chandler, Arizona.
And then Tyler Boyer and Terrell Farnsworth went to high school together.
They graduated, it looks like two years apart from Gilbert High School.
So these two are thicker than thieves.
They are overtly political, obviously.
In fact, at that very same Trump rally in 2015, Tyler Boyer introduces himself as the youngest chairman of the Republican Party.
He's very involved in Arizona politics.
And like he said, he's telling the truth, he was the reason that Charlie moved to, decided to put Turning Point USA's campus in Arizona.
Charlie's from Chicago, right?
That's where they first started, Turning Point USA, in Chicago.
Tyler has been driving this bus and, like I said, hiring the people around Charlie Kirk, except for me.
That really just happened.
I was the anomaly.
We really just met.
And I wonder if it would have happened if Tyler was there.
Anyways, the point here is that Tyler Boyer was very well acquainted, obviously, with Terrell on a familial basis.
And he was very close with Terrell's family, particularly Terrell's uncles and cousins.
Terrell's father is a man named Dwayne Farnsworth.
And his first cousins are longtime Arizona Congressman Eddie Farnsworth.
I believe he left office in 2022.
And also his brother, Eddie's brother, is David Farnsworth.
So just to reiterate that, you have David, Senator David Farnsworth.
He's still in office.
You have Eddie Farnsworth, who was the chairman of the state House Judiciary.
And those two men are brothers and first cousins with Dwayne Farnsworth, who is Terrell's father.
And they are extremely close to Tyler.
In fact, Eddie has actually been sued in the past with Tyler.
Like they're on the same side.
They are being sued together.
You can go back and you can mine all of this.
He has known that family for a very long time.
Anyway, in 2014, Senator David Farnsworth introduced Erica's mother to the House floor with concerns over EMPs.
Okay.
At the time, David Farnsworth was actually sponsoring the bill, a bill which would involve introducing Lori, who was then the CEO of G-Tech Industries.
And Eddie Farnsworth is also listed as having voted on this particular bill.
They got it passed through.
So the three of these people knew each other, you know, Eddie, Lori, and Dave.
And you can see here at the top, when you look at the members present, it says E. Farnsworth, Mr. That is Eddie Farnsworth.
And then if you scroll down, if you see here, it's telling you who's sponsoring this bill.
That is David Farnsworth.
And it says that he became concerned about a potential for an EMP event a short time ago.
And he got support from Congressman Trent Franks.
And it then tells us that he introduced Larry Guinta, Chuck Lee, and Lori Fransvi, the CEO of G-Tech Industries.
Larry Guinta, by the way, or Gwinta, I don't know if I'm saying that right, is Erica's stepfather.
So they've known each other.
The Farnsworths, the Boyers, and the Fransvis have known each other.
At least since 2014 on paper, we could keep looking and go backwards.
But it is very likely, obviously, given how close Tyler Boyer is to these men, that they all knew each other going back to 2014.
I think likely earlier, if I am being honest, I have an indication that it was actually earlier, but this is on paper.
So let's stick to the facts.
Anyways, Eddie Farnsworth is an interesting character because the year prior in 2013, Eddie Farnsworth was, as I said, the chair of the House Judiciary Committee.
And he caused a little bit of a kerfluffle in the state because for some unknown reason, he blocked a hearing on a bill to prevent child sex trafficking.
And he was the wrong person to do this because he had been in the news years earlier because his nephew, Albert Farnsworth, had raped a 13-year-old.
Okay.
Now, on this topic of this child sex trafficking bill, which got he didn't bring it down to the floor for a vote, and it had support from Democrats and Republicans because it is a problem in this state.
Child sex trafficking is a problem in the state of Arizona because the border is there.
And they were trying to do something about it to make it so that it was less easy for people to traffic children.
I think specifically ages 15 and 16.
And I want to say that never in my life, in my political life, have I worked on a single story where a theme of child sex trafficking has emerged more.
I've never seen it in my life, okay?
Whether it's the people who own the planes, remember the 888 plane, they run an anti-child sex trafficking charity.
Also in their profile pictures, they're wearing a t-shirt from another child sex trafficking charity, Operation Underground.
And you will recall that following the assassination, Phil Lyman was speaking to the guy that used to run.
I'm blanking on his name, Tim Ballard.
That's his name, Tim Ballard.
He used to run Operation Underground because he had gotten donation and support from Glenn Beck for Operation Underground.
He was involved in that.
I remember because I interviewed Tim Ballard about Operation Underground.
Fort Huachuca Base, which has randomly come up because of Mitch in general, they also are caught up in a child porn ring.
That's a real story that has been an issue at Huachuca Base.
And I'm showing you this article from CBS News.
U.S. Army missed the red flags about a civilian leader who led a child porn ring and risked U.S. security.
That person's name was David Frodsham.
He was a top civilian commander at a U.S. airbase in Afghanistan.
And you can go on and you can see that it says that after he left his post, he returned to Fort Huachuca, which is a major army installation in Arizona, blah, blah, blah.
There is also Fort Huachuca Base, which gets involved in a scandal relating to child sex trafficking, where Turning Point USA has their base where they actually decided to put the campus, if you will, Turning Point USA, just outside, literally across the way.
There's a place known as Arizona Mills, which is like the number one place for child sex trafficking, just like across the street.
I want to be very clear here.
I'm saying that.
I'm making no connection there.
I am not suggesting that Turning Point USA is trafficking children.
I just want to be very clear.
I'm just saying that everywhere I look in this story, themes of child sex trafficking come up.
Okay.
Anyway, I am wondering regarding Eddie Farnsworth if it is possible that Mitch saw him because he's a dead ringer, a dead ringer for Mark Amade.
When I saw this, I was like, whoa, doppelganger, this man looks like Mark Amade.
He just, and I, and I sent it to Mitch and he said, yes, this man looks very familiar.
Again, these are not the people that he contacted me about, but I would like to find out if this could be a connection.
I'd like to see if it's possible because the Farnsworth family has deep military ties as well.
I legitimately do not know.
I am not making an accusation here.
I personally think he looks a lot like Mark Amade.
And as a final point, interestingly enough, connecting a final dot here, Arizona politicians happened to travel down to the Davis-Monthan base for their annual commanders summit, where Arizona community leaders meet with military men.
This is very close.
This is about, Mark, what is this 40 minutes away from Fort Huachuca?
They happened to travel here for their annual commander summit on September 9th.
That happened.
You can see this, pulling this up on the Davis-Monthan Air Force Base website.
It says that they kicked off their Arizona Commanders Summit on September 9th, which provides an opportunity for military commanders and Arizona community leaders to discuss topics impacting military installations.
Again, that could obviously just be a coincidence, but it's interesting.
It would give them an excuse to be in that region.
And so I'd like to know more because the Farnsworth family is coming up too much.
Terrell Farnsworth's wife, by the way, people on the internet discovered this.
And I'm going to get the name.
I don't want to get this name right.
I'm going to get this name right.
I mean, I don't want to get it wrong.
His father-in-law is Thomas Burt, who ran Duncan Aviation.
The FBO, I told you, that rented the cars for the feds.
He actually ran Duncan Aviation as the executive vice president and COO for 22 years.
Now, he did retire.
He retired in 2019.
There's just a lot of connections here that I think should be explored more about the Farnsworth family and the Boyer family.
And I want to put this out here because something just, like I said, rubbed me the wrong way when I spoke to Terrell and I can't let that feeling go.
I think that Terrell knows more.
That was my vibe when I got off of the phone.
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So yesterday, we didn't really break the story.
We just were kind of responding, I guess.
We were very confused.
Normally, we do this show at 4 p.m. Eastern, and it looked like the Daily Wire was teasing something on my channels, which they brought back.
And then they released stuff on my old Instagram channels.
And I guess it was supposed to be like a clever way of, I don't know, I don't, I actually don't know at all what they were thinking, but it got them some attention.
And then we were able to very quickly determine because the tips box is just absolutely savage that what's been in the works is that Daily Wire has been casting people for a show that's designed specifically to make fun of me and also Tucker Carlson.
Okay.
Now, in general, I would say the Daily Wire has been in a casting rut, trying to find the new Brett Cooper probably for well over a year now.
It's not easy to find raw talent like that.
And I think really at long last, they found someone that they think might work.
Except rather than being bubbly and kind, the idea is she's going to be a bit manic over the top.
And of course, a little bit bitchy and mean, right?
Because if you're noticing, that's kind of the new Zionist bent, sort of this.
And we've shown you clips in the show, like, you can't sit with us.
We're cool.
Like, you're broke if you don't like what we do and we're hot and you're not.
Like, you know, the Hampton Summit and they're like talking about how much money they have.
Another brilliant PR ploy from a country that's mass murdering innocent children.
Like, you can't sit with us.
Never occurs with them that we just don't want to sit with them.
That's kind of the whole point of what we're doing.
Anyway, before Maddie, they apparently tried out other people for this role.
They had considered a show, putting together a show that would make fun of me and Tucker Carlson.
They tossed around three other people.
They even considered doing a combination show with a person who had played the bailiff on Matt Walsh's Judged.
And that didn't end up, that didn't wind up panning out.
Now, Maddie was then landed upon, and they decided, because we're really going to stick it to Candace.
We're going to have her name the show in the no-no.
Haha, get it.
Candace says, we don't know, but we know.
Ben's on stage saying that expression is whatoa did.
And now we're just going to bring this show to life and give it sort of a Nickelodeon iCarly vibe, but it's the Daily Wire, but they don't have a kids' department anymore.
But this kind of feels like Nickelodeon, but it's iCarly meets politics, which is just kind of wrong.
And the idea is we're going to take Candace's clips out of context to make it seem weird.
And I'm going to show you it.
I'm going to show you guys so you could see it.
To tee this clip up, she is going to really dramatize me discussing the history of Utah's state flag.
Now, I don't know if I'm getting old.
I am actually.
I do know I'm getting old.
In my ripe old age, I'm interested in history.
I'm interested in learning about flags and the history of their beehive flag is what I presented on my show.
And Maddie in the no-no is really gonna, is really gonna mock me.
So let's, let's take a look at it.
Yeah, that the Utah state flag is a hexagonal beehive.
But I can tell that facts about animal symbolism and history are obviously not her thing.
So I guess the idea is Candace is discussing the state flag and she's using that as proof that Charlie was murdered or something.
And it's interesting.
It's a vibe.
Anyway, I wanted to show you that because the Daily Wire continues to exhibit stalker vibes.
This is not normal.
I am now telling people that Ben Shapiro is my psycho ex-boyfriend because that's what this feels like.
None of this is normal.
We don't have to pretend this is normal.
Nothing that has happened since I have left that company is normal.
Not how I left the company.
Not the glorious town hall, slave hanging, teach everybody a lesson.
It's psycho ex-boyfriend.
It's the ex-boyfriend that breaks up with you, blasts a message to all of your friends, says, Come, look, here's why I did it.
Here's, I hate her.
And you're like, okay, I guess this is over.
That's finally move on in my life.
And then you try to move on your life.
And like he's sliding into the DMs of everybody saying you can't deal with, don't speak to her.
She's terrible.
I'm going to smear her.
I'm going to tell you what she is.
I hate her.
It's like, okay, fine.
That's okay.
I'm happy to move on in my life.
And they're saying, I'm going to sue you.
I get everything.
The apartment we share, the car you're going to leave, you're going to have nothing.
Okay, that's fine.
Take it.
I'd like to just move on in my life.
I'm going to sue you again because I'm upset about something else.
Okay, fine.
I would really just like to move on and close this chapter in my life.
Then all of a sudden, he's like jumping onto stages and talking trash about me.
He sees I moved on.
I'm like, okay, I'm just doing my own show here.
No, no, no.
But you know, like, why do you care?
Are you good?
Are you good?
Can you move on in your life?
You're designing shows after me.
This is not normal.
This is not how employers are supposed to behave.
I'm being so serious.
There's something about that that's like, and parking aside, Maddie.
She's just the latest pawn.
You know, they just got to find someone who really desperately wants to be famous, stands on a couch, okay, whatever.
Thinks she's going to be the next it girl.
That's fine.
This has nothing to do with her, actually.
I hope it works out for her.
I am speaking about an employer that can't move on.
This is not, this feels dangerous to me.
Like we're getting to a stage of obsession that is dangerous.
You have to go create a show that's interesting and compelling that people want to watch.
That's not based off of somebody that you fired because you didn't want them anymore.
That doesn't, that doesn't track with the public.
So I just feel like this is getting very creepy and it's making me uncomfortable.
And there should, in fact, be laws to prevent this from happening.
There just should be laws that prevent employers from sending interns to stalk you at events, from trying to get you canceled from speaking events for buying your friends.
Like, oh, well, that's the next step of the crazy ex-boyfriend.
I'm going to reach out to everybody you know and offer them money.
Yeah, I'm going to pretend I was Charlie's friend.
What are you doing?
Why?
Why are you doing this?
Why are you so inside of my life?
Please just move on.
This is not mentally healthy for you, Ben.
I want you to be better.
I want you to get better.
Seriously, move on in your life.
It's okay.
Let go of people that disagree with you.
It's okay.
Also, leave Megan Kelly alone because I see you're eyeing her too in a weird way.
You seem to be gunning for her now.
Let it go.
This is not healthy.
And I'm asking you to leave this alone in 2026.
Go do a show that's based off of that girl's talent and something that's interesting.
And don't just use her like a pawn.
That's what I would say.
Anyways, if you guys want to know the no-no, no, no, head over to the Daily Wire, support Maddie.
Show's going to be great.
Or you can just watch my show.
And we can keep talking about state flags, actually, because then I got more interested in more state flags.
Never mind.
I'm not going to tell you about the Pelicans and Louisiana, but we were looking into that.
And it is kind of interesting to learn about the pelican on the flag of Louisiana's state flag.
Moving on, you guys, to other psychopathic things that are happening.
I did not realize that Brigitte Macrone is having those people who like retweeted things that she deems to be harassing the truth, right?
Brigitte Macron believes the truth about his gender is a form of harassment.
This is very chilling.
They are sentencing these people to jail.
I did not realize it.
I thought this was like just the fine.
I think I read it too quickly.
I thought it said, oh, it's $10,000 fine.
No.
Eight men and two women between the ages of 41 and 65, okay, who she is accusing have harassed me, it's harassed my family.
My family's testifying.
It doesn't matter whether or not I did these things to Emmanuel when he was 14.
It doesn't actually matter.
What matters is that you're hurting my feelings bringing them up.
You could just imagine this argument in court.
Like if Jeffrey Dahmer was alive and you're like tweeting at Jeffrey Dahmer and you're like, you're a sick cannibal pedophile.
And then he's like, that actually doesn't matter because you hurt my feelings.
That's really me.
I don't want you.
That's harassment.
You can't just call me those things.
That's the vibe of what's going on in France right now.
It doesn't matter if it's true.
It matters if it hurt Brigitte's feelings.
And so what has happened here is that they testified that these tweets were malicious, they were degrading, they were, quote, insulting, they were intentionally harmful to Brigitte.
And of the 10 defendants, eight were given suspended sentences between four to eight months.
And a ninth was sentenced to six months in jail because that person just didn't even attend the hearing.
That's what's happening around France.
Okay.
Three of the individuals are described as the instigators, and they were then ordered to have their social media accounts suspended for six months for retweets.
She feels harassed by the truth.
You can harass people with the truth now.
And to be clear, all of them were ordered to attend an online course regarding hate speech.
Hate speech can also be true speech.
If they just feel, if they hate it, that's it.
And they have to collectively pay Brigitte Macrone what's known as moral damages, around $12,000, moral damages.
I am telling you that because you need to fully compute what they want to do here.
Okay.
That's the purpose of this lawsuit against me, never before seen lawsuit against me, is that evil people are getting caught doing evil things.
And those evil people still have enough power to pass through legislation and to establish new laws to make it so that they never get caught again.
Or even when they do get caught, you have to shut up about it.
This lawsuit that Brigitte has brought against me matters deeply.
I am telling you guys, this lawsuit, everyone should be paying attention to every single filing pertaining to this lawsuit in Delaware, a place where I'm pretty sure France has been running the game since the Revolutionary War, because I believe that the feds are colluding because they want to introduce new speech laws in this country and make people fearful to tell the truth about the things that they have actually done.
Wild.
I just felt like I needed to fully present to you what was actually happening in France.
Prison.
A 65-year-old person.
Maybe they just retweeted.
Who knows?
We have to get into the documentation.
But this is not defamation.
She's not making the argument that these things are untrue.
She's making the argument that her feelings are hurt because you know that she was born with a penis.
Wild times, guys.
We will be right back after a brief break.
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Top comment from yesterday's episode is from Laurie Galio.
She writes, Having that tent at Amfest as a carnival attraction would be like having the limo that John Kennedy was shot in for a photo op.
It is totally disgusting.
I am in total agreement with you.
I cannot believe it was not stopped on any level.
It is just, it's distasteful.
And we have every right to feel the ick, I think, that we, that most people feel, most of the human beings feel, not the Sentinels, obviously.
That's wrong.
There's a thousand ways that you can honor Charlie.
Stop telling us that it has to always be a Miss McAburg.
Like, we have to have the bloody mic.
And we had, it's like, we don't actually have to have any of that.
You can just speak about him and say what he means to you, like I did.
I actually just told stories about Charlie Kirk.
And yeah, that felt pretty honorific.
I didn't, I don't need blood.
There's something about it that feels like a seance at all times.
And I don't like it.
I don't like it at all.
And many people at home don't like it either.
Okay, let's get into the comments that are coming in right now.
By the way, the answer was that it's not a holy day of obligation, in case you guys couldn't hear them.
Business writes, Candace, I adore you.
My children watch you with me as well.
My 28-month-old collapsed when she sees you on TV.
Thank you for being our voice.
You are often in my prayers.
Stay safe.
Christ is king.
Thank you so much.
That's such a sweet comment.
Emily Sullivan writes, Keep digging, Candace, praying that your platform continues to grow.
I feel as though the Lord has laid on my heart to tell you that all that you are uncovering is open, is to open eyes and bring people to Christ.
Use it for the kingdom.
Of course, absolutely.
And I have to say that it's been, it's just been so heavy.
I feel better this year, obviously, than I felt last year, but it is just that Tim Dylan dark comedic skit where you just go, what is happening?
Has this world always been this way?
Okay, it has.
And I think a lot of people want answers.
Like, what is the next step?
And I don't know.
I don't have an answer other than committing ourselves to truth unapologetically.
We have to grow louder.
They want us to become more silent.
We have to expose them.
That's what Brigitte is doing.
It's like, we'll bankrupt you.
We'll kill you.
We'll do whatever it is to shut you up.
And they want us to be fearful.
And I think that we just have to continue to say, you know what?
The truth matters and the truth is enough.
And that's why I always say, if you're wondering what you can do, I do believe that the frequency of truth hits harder.
And repeating the truth and saying the truth and not being fearful is a part of it.
It's a part of how we've been thus far able to expose so much.
I think that that's accurate.
Drew Cass writes, or Drew Case writes, you mentioned having Baron on your podcast.
When is that going to happen?
Both of your thoughts together will break the internet.
You both are so close.
God bless and stay focused.
Yeah, I reached out to him and we are going to make that happen.
When?
I don't know.
It will likely be on a Friday.
Speaking of which, by the way, Friday, we are going to do, because I was like, why do a book club on Tuesday and then Friday?
Let's just do an extra long one on Friday since we won't have an episode.
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Drew, I hope I answered your question.
Did I actually answer your question?
Yes, Baron Coleman.
So we are in conversation and hopefully that will happen on a different Friday.
Humble Beginnings writes, I know that they have terrorized you, but I wouldn't let Ben Shapiro rent space in your head.
Just keep moving forward.
We are building, right?
It's not about whether or not, this isn't about winning or losing.
It just needs to stop.
Like I can't explain to you, it's it's getting, there's something about it to me that just is starting to feel dangerous.
It's like there's an obsession here.
There's an obsession with me that is happening.
And I would like it to stop.
That's it.
It's not about whether I've moved on.
I've said, okay, okay.
You can't hang out with me.
Okay.
You can't go speak here.
Okay.
You can't, whatever.
I'm going to do, okay, cool.
Thumbs up.
I'm going to have this.
Okay, cool.
I would just like to move on in my life.
I would like you to just leave me alone.
There's something about it that feels parasitic.
And I'm asking for it to stop.
I am.
And I hope that that is enough.
I hope that me saying that we, it's been, it's two years.
Okay.
You just, you have to get over a past relationship sooner than two years for your own mental health beyond anything else.
I just want it to stop and maybe it won't.
But I do think that employers doing this should not be acceptable.
Like under the law, it should not be acceptable.
You should just be allowed to be fired is what I would say.
Jamie Paul Lucci writes, and I also want to add, just before I answer this last thing, I also want to add that you don't even know like 3% of what I have gone through with them.
Because I have tried to be above board.
I have tried to handle it in the best way possible.
And like I said, my perspective on it was always we are Christians.
And so we need to not be reciprocal.
We can't be mean spirited.
I mean, you see, we have limited our discussions of the Daily Wire at all on this show.
And I'm doing series on Kamala and Brigitte Macrone and things I'm interested in, like things that actually interest me, focusing on what I want to build.
And that is not happening there.
I don't know why that can't also happen there.
If you think my ideas suck, you know, go invest in your ideas.
Why is your idea me?
Why is your ideas like destroying me?
I just don't get it.
I really don't understand it.
And I would like for it to stop.
We'll see what happens.
Jamie Powell Lucci writes, looking into Erica's mom's company, AZ Tech and E3 Tech, having contracts with the DOD for EMP hardening and the testing that is done at Fort Huachuca.
Yeah, I think that that's accurate.
And by the way, like I said, I don't think Erica ever denied that.
She's like on camera saying that she moved to Arizona because her mother got defense contracts.
Like she was, her mother was working with the DOD.
So she's been very open about that.
And what would be interesting to know is if the Farnsworths secured those contracts for her originally when they first moved, like back in the early 2000s.
And I'm sure that will come up at some point.
Freethinker writes, Maddie in the no-no is a big no-no from me, fam.
Seriously, though, what even was that?
How embarrassing?
I have secondhand embarrassment so bad.
God bless and protect you forever, Candace.
And the last thing that I just want to say as a mother is get your feet off of the couch, Maddie.
Like, I am so sick of people thinking they just jump up on a couch and put your feet up there.
That's what upset me the most about that.
Like, do not stand on a couch.
No, you're not allowed to do that.
My grandma, my granddad would say that's a no-no.
So, Maddie, that's where we're going to leave you in the no-no is that standing on furniture is a no-no.