Candace Owens and Kanye West (Ye) revisit their October 2022 "White Lives Matter" controversy, where Ye claimed media suppression stems from Jewish executives’ control—citing TMZ’s Harvey Levin and Universal/Def Jam—while framing himself as a "dark Jew" with divine purpose. Owens questions why his observations face censorship unlike those about other groups, like Vietnamese nail technicians. They link systemic oppression to Hollywood’s influence, mental health misrepresentation (Ye’s 2015 bipolar diagnosis), and societal trauma, comparing it to running into a burning building. Amid the "scam-demic," Ye muses on life as a simulation, referencing WALL-E and Northmen, while Owens ties free speech to Gamergate’s cultural impact. Their defiant dialogue in the "eye of the storm" underscores a shared belief that truth thrives beyond media noise. [Automatically generated summary]
All right, guys, now it's time for a conversation that so many of you have been waiting for.
Candace plus Ye.
I guess it kind of starts with a time machine.
I got to take you guys in a time machine back to October 3rd, 2022, a day that will live in infamy.
Me and Ye premiering shirts at his fashion show, which read White Lives Matter.
Definitively a moment I will never forget.
We broke the internet.
There's no other way to say it.
And people just couldn't believe how could a black person say white lives matter?
We could only say black lives matter.
And it's just interesting to see how the media sort of paints a narrative and there's absolutely no truth to it.
I mean, what really happened is Gay called me and he asked me to simply be at his show.
Never asked me about wearing any shirts when I was there.
We were backstage and he sort of held up the shirt and he was really in the creative process.
There were tons of models running around and he just said, I need you to wear this.
And I said, sure, because I knew instantly what he was trying to do and what he meant.
Shortly thereafter, though, everything changed.
And obviously, aside from people being angry at us wearing the shirts, then it shifted into this conversation about Ye and his anti-Semitism.
And I can say definitively that it was the toughest moment in my entire career.
I had never felt more pressure externally from the media and from friends for me to condemn Ye.
I didn't take the bait.
I didn't take the bait because, as I have said many times, Ye had opened up to me about some things that were happening in his life and you're going to hear in this conversation what those things were and you can understand how someone would feel if they were subjected to the things that Ye was subjected to.
I, of course, wanted the world to hear it back then.
I had invited Ye to come on my podcast at the time and he was slated to come on, but the evening before I found out that that was not going to be a possibility.
The network that I was on didn't think that I was the right person to interview him because of our friendship.
And he was really upset.
He was very upset.
He essentially said that my voice was being controlled and something overtook me in that moment and I said, look, I obviously cannot overrule this at all.
If I had my own platform, I would obviously host a conversation with you, but I don't have that right now.
I do not have that right now.
Do have is a camera and I have a friend who knows how to run a camera and we can just record this moment and we can lock this in a time capsule and one day I will have my own platform and I will premiere this conversation and that day is today.
When I say that it was a tough moment, you were even looking at me when I watched this conversation back.
You can just see it on my face.
I was postpartum.
There are very few times I'm not a crier.
I definitely am not a crier.
That's not how I express emotions, but I remember going through this period and there was a moment when, because I was postpartum, Ladies know you have that moment where your hair sheds postpartum.
And I remember dealing with the press cycle with Ye, dealing with friends and followers who said they wouldn't support me ever again unless I came out and condemned him, making a decision not to condemn him, and standing in the shower and my hair was falling out in clumps.
And I just said, please, God, and I was just crying hysterically, have mercy on me.
Please just have mercy on me.
I just need to get through this moment.
I'm a breastfeeding mom.
I can't take anymore.
My show's just gone five days per a week.
Make it stop.
Make it stop.
And I look back on that and I just think everything happens for a reason.
And whatever inspired me to say, let's just put on a camera, turn on a camera here and record and have a conversation and lock it up in a time capsule.
It was because that was exactly what needed to happen at that time and a better moment for people to hear what Ye was thinking and what he had to say is right now.
So guys, I invite you to listen to this conversation, Candace plus Ye.
I love these moments of these powerful combinations together.
And whatever feel you do for the futurists, the people who can see what the future is, the kids 20 years younger, 40 years, 80 years from now, when they see this, that's a big thing is lean into those people That everyone tells you, like, you don't need to be next to that person, but you have something in your heart and your gut on why you should be next to that person.
I've had people like, like comedians that you know of call me and said, stay away from Candace Owens.
And you know, like literally my, Uh, I guess they use the term friends have done the same to me, even to the point where I'm going to be on Bill Maher this week.
Chris was saying stuff like, you need to understand, and you need to behave.
And he said that at one point in the interview.
I said, whoa, let's play that back.
You need to behave.
You're not supposed to talk like that out loud, Chris.
We know that that's what it is.
And I was just talking to my girl.
She was in the car listening to me while I was doing the Zoom, this live Zoom.
And afterwards, I said, this is the way I felt In Hollywood, the whole time I was there, people were telling me, like, you need to behave.
You cannot wear a red hat.
You cannot talk to Candace.
You cannot say how you feel out loud.
Like today, they took down my Drink Champs.
They took it off of whatever platforms, YouTube, Drink Champs, Revolt.
And they also took me off of the Balenciaga sites.
And I just looked at my girl and said, yo, I'm so happy.
I'm so happy.
Like, I'm so happy because...
I have this freedom from beholding to these brands that say, we only rock with you under these conditions.
Like, we can have you be a Black person, but only a Black person that says, that's wearing a Black Lives Matter t-shirt.
Which at this point, now that I've worn a White Lives Matter t-shirt, I'm totally fine with wearing a Black Lives Matter t-shirt as well, because all lives matter.
But even all lives matter, Would have, you know, I cut what I'm saying, this train of thought.
Well, for black people, okay, with the rates of that RS being higher, we're still, you know, you go see the slave movie, you see like a slave get their teeth pulled out in front of another slave.
We're still getting our teeth pulled out.
You know, literally like in jail, I have friends whose, you know, family members went to jail and they got killed by an officer.
And then the officer like, all of a sudden quit, and they're not there anymore and stuff.
And like, so they can't do the trial.
And, you know, so we're getting Left and right still treated like slaves.
And the reason why I specifically say the Jewish people is, the Jewish people, like how the Armenians worked in a meatpacking district, the Jewish people came into power In the 80s, truly, when the divorces started happening because of Wall Street, because the Catholic lawyers wouldn't divorce people, and they came into money the way how the darker Jews, the black people, are coming into money now.
They had to, and they did a great job.
They colluded.
Before that, they were very involved with the civil rights movement, which actually the movement was it moved blacks from being Republican over to becoming Democrats.
That was what the move meant.
That's where the move happened.
Now everyone's, why are you calling them out specifically?
When I said DEF CON 3, I didn't get an opportunity to say what that meant, but it meant I'm going to call out all these things that have been done to me specifically by Jewish people that so happen to be businessmen or businesswomen, but still it was done by Jewish people to me, to the darker Jew.
And I was gonna go one by one, and the reason I said it like that is just to say...
I know you guys are going to call this anti-Semite, and I'm not afraid of that title.
Now I'm going to lean into that title.
So call me whatever you want, because you called me void already.
What's the definition of black?
Void of color.
Some people, you know, artists may say it's all color.
And it could also mean, like, it's like what they did when I ran for office and they showed me on the TV and they blacked my face out and they had me be void.
And I think that Jewish people always will tell you about the trauma and the Holocaust.
So one of my favorite lines on The Drink Champs, you actually hit me about this, is when Dov Charney said, hey, I want to take you to the Holocaust Museum.
And I said, I want you to go to our Holocaust Museum, Planned Parenthood.
Like, we're still in the Holocaust.
Six million Jewish people died in the Holocaust, over 20 million Darker Jews, black people have been aborted.
More babies are aborted in New York at this point than born at this point.
And my thing about the media, the majority of the media, over 50% of the media, at least probably 80%, but over 50% of the media is run by Jewish executives and they allow Um, all of this abortion driven content that more affects, um, and affects, uh, the darker Jew, the black people more than any other race.
But then you ask, because you can't even Google, like when you Google Jewish abortion rate, it'll be one piece of information.
The next information is like from four years ago or something.
There's no information about it.
And if I try, attempt, attempt, my mom said try and if I fail by attempting to have a conversation with a Jewish person about the abortion rate, they won't allow the conversation to be had.
That's why I said, hey, I'm me too-ing The Jewish race that saying, hey, you guys got to come up and say, did you do this or did you not do this?
And I'm calling a lot of times say people feel like I'm very selfish driven because I'll talk about things I specifically went through.
So I said, OK, well, I'm this voice for the actors.
The musicians, the athletes specifically, I know, are in situations where at least four of the people that they do business with are Jewish, and those people know each other, and the athletes come and go, and that four, five, six, eight people remain.
The athletes come and go like cattle's in the stable.
The actors come and go.
The musicians come and go.
And that mainstay of that Jewish, just say crew, because it sounds less ramped up than mafia, right?
Than mob.
Sounds less mentally ill.
So let's say there is definitely a crew.
And I've been there, and I've been talked to certain kind of ways.
And you know who else wouldn't be talked to a certain kind of way?
Kobe Bryant.
You don't get talked to a certain way.
I don't get talked to a certain kind of way.
So things that I'm saying out loud, hyped up or calmly, I'm saying things five times a day that...
Black people, leaders, not specifically black people, just leaders throughout time, have been killed for things that we're doing five times a day.
So one thing for the black community and all of this woke culture and Charlemagne and different things, it's like, bro, this is getting ridiculous at this point.
People got to put some respect on the fact that I'm actually brave enough to say this out loud.
Like, that's what's lit.
That's what God is inside of me.
That's why I feel so good to be used.
You done got me to a point, y'all call me so many names.
You've disrespected me.
For three years, Forbes wouldn't call me a billionaire.
It is important if people are calling you crazy to be like, oh, but I'm a billionaire, because it's like, it's not me being classist.
It's just me fighting against that, saying, okay, you're calling me crazy, but I must be doing something right.
Now I'm not doing something, I'm doing It seems like we've got something new to worry about every single day.
You know, George Farmer was so elated by the response that we were getting.
And then Elon Musk was retweeting what's going on or tweeting about what's going on today.
And it hit Bloomberg and it's top trending.
And I said to my chief of staff, give me a plane.
I'm going to Nashville right now.
And the feeling is right.
Then we went to a restaurant.
And the restaurant literally had all the same letters of the name my mother gave me.
It was K-A-Y-N-E.
So that's another, it's like you're talking about your dad with Hawaii.
And like, I had to, you know, you guys, you guys saw that.
You saw me hand the phone over, like David Blaine, I didn't, I couldn't have written that.
My dad is like, because the funny thing is, where is your dad in Hawaii?
Because I'm, I have this feeling like, let's go to Hawaii because I made really good music in Hawaii and I just want to go to Hawaii and actually do what Jewish people love the best out of me is make music and make people really happy.
That's interesting because I think what's missing in the conversation and the media trying to spin what you're saying is that you are talking about an industry where there are Jewish executives and that's the first time I've actually heard you say Jewish executives and I think before The way that they were trying to sort of callously interpret it was that you meant every single Jewish person in the entire world.
Every person walking down the street has this power.
But you live, I mean, you have lived for a very long piece of your life, at least in Hollywood.
And what is weird to me and where I'm trying to play catch up is that there was a piece in the LA Times written by a Jewish guy named Joel Stein, and he said, who runs Hollywood?
Come on, man.
And he's a Jewish guy, and he wrote about how all the executives in Hollywood were Jewish.
And that piece wasn't called anti-Semitic.
But yet now, if you say that part, if you say that a lot of the executives, especially in music, I thought this was something that people knew.
I've heard this in Jay-Z's music before.
So I was very surprised that there was this Oh, my God, how dare he say this?
And it's anti-Semitic for him to say this.
And how can you say that, you know?
I think what you're talking about is that every piece of what you have created has been owned by a Jewish executive and that there are a lot of, there's a disproportionate amount of Jewish executives in Hollywood.
Like, if I was going to get my nails done, I might say there's a disproportionate amount of Vietnamese people wearing the nail signs, you know what I'm saying?
I don't know what happened, but they got here and they were like, we're going to do nails, you know what I'm saying?
It's more specific, but my emotion about it as a human being, as a leader, oh, as a leader, I operate at every medium, from the most brash and brutal, to medium and understandable, to highly sophisticated.
We have to operate in all those.
My feeling and my emotion, because I am a human being, I'm not a robot, so if you take a woman can be scarred by men just off of one bad experience with a man.
Perhaps it might be a six-year-old girl that has an experience she shouldn't have had with an uncle, and that woman ends up being a stripper or, you know, disliking men.
So imagine if that woman had that experience with 10 men, right?
So I can tell you, I've had 10 bad experiences with Jewish execs.
And these are the people, the Jewish people I come in contact with.
So if that woman had that experience with 10 men, she might say this term, men are all the same.
She could sing it.
She could say it.
And imagine if she was just like, Beautiful.
Like, if she had, like, the face of Irina Shayk or the body of Candice Swanepoel or the body of Kim or something like that, right?
If this person, like, was just kind of stood back or, like, say this, like, Halle Berry or something, like, if they Just step back and we're a bit timid to give a number out.
What do you mean all men?
And would men do a whole series of 80 outline things calling she's anti-menetic?
Is she anti-monetic because of her experiences?
And she allowed to have the emotion that because of her experience, now she hates, now she dislikes.
You know, I'm going to say dislikes because it's considered to be hate speech.
Like, yes, I'm at a place where I'm like, I'm not going to talk specifically to Jewish businessmen because Jewish businessmen are the ones who
have done the things to me, to hurt me, and to hurt my friends, right? So now I'm talking to Jewish
businessmen's families.
That's why I said the Jewish people.
Because I'm calling the Jewish people to talk to the Jewish businessmen and family and say, are you doing fair deals?
Or with your version of the Boys Club, right?
This isn't the Catholic, Protestant Boys Club.
This is people that have been through pain and rose to success.
The Jewish business community.
I need their families, their dads, grandparents, wives, children, to ask them, are you doing fair deals by God?
Because yes, we do have Zionist Jews and we have godly, you know, take Friday and Saturday off Jews, right?
Jewish people.
And as Jay, in my position, I'm one of the darker Jews, Black people's most loved by Jewish people, Blacks, period, like for 20 years.
So that's the reason why God put me in this position.
You know, when, with the, as I'm, I have to word it the right way, but with the, with 2024, you know, coming two years from now, Whoever ends up into office by 2024 has to bring the country together.
There's no more of this divide.
So that means the funny thing about the Jewish media is I have their attention.
I don't want to like, kind of ramble to find my point again.
Yeah, it's a really good point.
Because even like wearing that ticket, I'm like a bit sleepy.
Yeah, it's just a really that's what made through the why I'm gonna do podcast sleepy for now.
When I do Bill Maher two days from now, I'm gonna go in sleepy.
Right?
Because I have so much energy as like, Alien level African King, that if you put me in a normal podcast situation with an antagonistic media person, then they can get me to look as animated as they would want me to be on stage or on a basketball court.
But in that setting, I have to speak.
So now I figured out the code to be as calm as, you know, they would like me to be in these situations.
He says, I dumbed down my audience to double my dollars.
They criticized me for it, yet they all yell holla.
If skills sold, truth be told, I'd probably be, lyrically, Talib Kweli.
Truthfully, I want to rhyme like common sense, but I did five mil, and I ain't been rhyming like common sense.
When your sense got that much in common, and you've been hustling since, the only perception, poor perception, go with what makes sense.
Since I know what I'm up against, we as rappers must decide what's most important.
And I can't help the poor if I'm one of them.
So I got rich and gave back.
To me, that's the win-win.
And I was just so stunned.
I ran it back like 10 times because I forgot how much I love that song.
And I was like, he's literally telling you that he is dumbing himself down.
He has decided that the better thing to do is to keep the people that follow him stupid and be able to help them by giving money.
I can't help the poor.
I dumbed down my audience to double my dollars.
He has to make a decision to be smart, to be rapping like Talib Kweli, or to make money and be able to give back to people so he knows And this made me think of you because you said on that podcast that got taken down that information is the number one resource, right?
And he knows that he has to choose between giving the people information or having success.
But if you go into a place where they stop police, they put the innovators into a place of crawling, and our civilization is no longer moving forward.
And you can believe it or you can not, and I can like classify as a black person and this and that, but I'm challenging all the systems one by one, right, that we will be happier.
And not only, I don't love the word utopia, it seems over the top, not only find a happier way to live, we will actually survive because We can't survive by being oppressed, by having our thoughts oppressed and being afraid to say what we feel because, hey, you know what?
We could feel something for a bit, you know, and Then if you get to do it, you can get over it.
Sometimes a kid can have a chocolate binge and they get the stomachache and it only happens one time.
Or they can go and touch the stove and they get burnt and it only happens one time.
Right now, we're not getting the opportunity to touch the stove.
If I hadn't went so far, said the word DEFCON, right, DEFCON, then I couldn't have, we couldn't
have had an openly open conversation about what Jewish execs are specifically doing.
All of the conversation would have been said to be hate speech.
Like, how can I hate Jews and I consider myself to be Jew?
But then people say, well, you hate Black people because you wore White Lives Matter.
And now, like I talked to Noriega this morning, he was like, OK, I realize this.
I realize that I really don't feel proud that you died from choking on an egg.
Jumping in right here, because at that time, as you can see, both of us were really sleepy.
It was Very late at night we were having that discussion and I hadn't even fully comprehended what he said there when he said that people don't believe that Prodigy choked on an egg and I had no idea what he was referring to and I just wanted to let you guys know that there was a rapper named Prodigy who began speaking out
about the Illuminati.
He basically said, I have this platform and I want to use my platform for good to wake up the masses to what's really going on in society.
And so I am going to dig up this old clip of Prodigy right before he mysteriously choked on an egg and he decided to speak with Alex Jones.
I really believe in a lot of the things that you're talking about, but we'd rather just accept the pain.
Pain is like, first thing that drugs that we get, you know, as black people is like sugar and then pain.
And pain because of, and I know because I have a tendency.
You know, to be masochistic.
It's part of my superpower, right?
Like the ability to deadpool the pain, to overcome.
But I'm telling you, a good comment, a bad comment, someone calling you something, can change how you feel.
People have sent me so many comments about You know, me standing up about the information with Black Lives Matter and George Floyd, that I actually felt happier today.
Like today has been my happiest day, right?
Because obviously there's, you know, you showed in your documentary that They hired thousands of people to go out in the street, and there's a currency for outrage.
But there's also really intelligent Black people that are tired of our narrative being forced down, you know, forced to us.
I don't want to say down, because it sounds like pause.
But our narrative being forced to us, for us to take, you know, what happened before with the media is You know, they would go and get the best and the brightest to represent Black people.
And there's been a shift.
There's been a shift.
They don't want there to be another Beyonce.
They don't want there to be a Candice.
They don't want there to be a Ye.
They don't want there to be a Dr. King, a Farrakhan, a Martin Luther King, Michael Jordan, Nat King Cole.
They don't want that.
They want to say, hey, we're going to take This person that was a drug addict, and we're going to replace him.
We're going to replace Martin Luther King with a drug addict.
We're going to replace my dad, who was a Black Panther, with the Disney version of Black Panthers.
And the fact that Virgil passed.
No, I don't mean Virgil.
I mean, George passed.
I don't mean George.
I mean, Chad passed.
Now you can't talk about Black Panther, or you can't point out that Black Panther was actually being used to erase my father's legacy and what he fought for as the actual Black Panthers.
And also if you go to this one, I think it's called Maleficent, this other Disney film, If you look up Moors, there's a black guy with wings on next to Maleficent.
But that's not who the Moors were to us.
And it's so funny.
The first thing I said when I wore the White Lives Matter t-shirt in Paris, I said, you can't un-Google this.
But they took the interview down.
So they're in the process of slowly un-Googling me.
They're in the process, mark my words, they're in the process of ungoogling me.
And it's a balance.
It's like an argument that's happening inside of the Jewish media right now.
I can't say that they always make the right decisions and stuff.
They lost one of their best decision makers being me.
I kind of went into calabasas for a little bit and blew it up, right?
You got this person getting people out of jail.
You know, making billions of dollars, cultural influence, all this stuff.
And, you know, God has called me to move around.
Interesting, like, okay, so I'm at the BLM premiere and the death of the BLM, the scam aspect of BLM.
Now, I want to say this, this may get picked up or not, That I felt when I saw Kamala was running for office and they showed this picture of her as a child, I saw my mother in that picture.
I wanted to vote for her.
I almost forgot I was running.
I was like, oh, right.
And so when I see the George Floyd video, the way they capture it, the way it sounds, It hits me, right, in a place.
It's like you completely forget that the guy's on drugs.
You completely forget all these different things.
And it just hits me as a black person.
I put that label, the label I've been given that I've grown up with.
And I understand why it hurts, and I understand why it worked for a moment.
But now we're in a place where we have to dispel the trauma and move forward.
It feels like all Black people own are trauma, the word, and braids.
We're the walking billboards for Louis Vuitton and Balenciaga.
It was interesting, just the shift, the tectonic plate shift of me closing the Balenciaga, opening the Balenciaga Show, and everyone You know, from the culture, black people, white people, they were all into the idea that me, because I was ruffling some feathers.
It was right on the line of, is it too far?
Right.
And then I opened up the Balenciaga Show and people were just like, what?
And it felt good.
It felt awesome.
And then I put up a picture and I said, war.
But little did they know that I meant war.
And then the next day, I do a fashion show that's purposely sabotaged, like people, this is like rumors of Catholic priests, you know, levels, you know, sabotage.
They went and took the... I don't want to word it like that, because that could be taken mistrust.
They sabotaged the season nine show.
They went and took The microphones off of the children's choir to make sure that we started late.
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That was just one of... Yeah, I was there when you were like yelling, like you were upset about that.
I mean, I got to a moment where I was just like, wow, how did a t-shirt do this?
You know what I'm saying?
And you know what?
They're angry is because In my perspective, it was like, we wore the t-shirt, and then they did their usual media attacks, and usually they're up against people that they can break, right?
So they needed me to post the statement that's like, you know, I'm getting my distance from Ye, and I've realized that he's made some mistakes, and that he's off his meds, and he's crazy, and I hope he gets the help he needs, right?
I didn't do that.
So now they're going after my family.
They edited this photo, this video of me and you, I didn't even tell you this, on the red carpet at my premiere to make it look like we were in a relationship.
And this starts going viral.
Meanwhile, my husband's 10 feet away.
He just doesn't do cameras.
So they're doing, I mean, from every single angle, just trying to see if they can break You and I having any type of relationship, which is fascinating because the same thing happened last time.
Like I say, Kamalas are never again because you are what?
Black people want it commonly to be.
So thank you very much, media, for prepping the culture to be able to see what we really need.
And I mean, it's just such a godsend.
I'm just, it's, I'm just, it's just hitting me right now that we started, that we absorbed this platform and, you know, what we're going to be able to do with it.
I was told that by a Jewish doctor and the information was put out by a Jewish Hollywood trainer to the Jewish media.
And actually the day when they put me in the hospital, I had started reading the Bible really heavy and rewriting Bible verses.
And when the Jewish trainer saw, and you're like looking like, well, that sounds pretty bipolar, but the, uh, the Jewish trainer saw that, put me in the hospital and then, um, said, um, and then put it in the press and the press being TMZ broke it.
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Similar to me, you know, working on apparel and getting a European designer to give that Cut on something, or even like the biggest company in the world is an American company, but the lead designer was from London.
It was Johnny Ox.
So it's that mix of those that we got to look at all the talent on the on the planet and bring them into the American companies.
The American companies are the super, the super forces.
That's PayPal, McDonald's, Amazon, Google, Apple.
It's like, and now, you know, what Yeezy is slated to become.
Because Yeezy's got One of the two most compelling founders living.
The other one is Elon.
So that's us.
It's like Yelon to save the world.
Yelon or Yalon or however you want to word it.
I saw that actually up today.
It's for us to come together.
What's so good is like, Elon actually, he illegally can't become president.
So that means that at a certain point, like I have to be president, you know, and to empower.
It's like, it's, it's crazy.
Like the current, the Biden, the Biden menstruation.
The Biden ministration.
So the current Biden ministration won't even talk to Elon?
And that's the thing is like, I feel like they say that to everybody and I get the being called crazy when you're not crazy will drive you crazy, right?
I was being driven crazy by the fact that every time they picked up an article, they just kept like, this is what I called you.
I'm like, they just keep calling him crazy.
And with Elon, it's like different attacks, but it's consistently saying stuff that isn't true.
And then you have everybody else, like the masses, repeating stuff that isn't true.
You know what I mean?
And I just don't understand why I get frustrated.
It's like, how much more success can you have before they stop?
It's just like, it's still some mountains to climb.
What I'm really big on, I want to talk about is in our Sleepycast, the And I'm going to go get some sleep.
I touched on it before, maybe we can cut this to work together, but to bring people together, the left, we always talk about the left, the left and right.
Like right now, the left is fighting against the right.
And that's like, if I was going like this, my left hand and my right hand, we have to fight together for our species, for humanity, because the right has some great things and the left have some great things also.
Like the left is really good at media, you know?
So, uh, And the left is not, they're not happy with the Biden administration either.
And we, we have an opportunity to really win the hearts of the left also.
You know, it's not, I'm really big on like when I made Stronger.
Nicole Scherzinger from Pussycat Dolls was dancing to it up and down Record Plant Studio, but then when I played it for Ice Pick, who was one of the executives at Rough Riders that's, rest in peace, passed away, when he heard it, he put his nose up like this, he said, the whole thing sound like that?
And he wasn't into it, so I had this challenge of making Stronger, which is now Diamond, it's my biggest song of all time, it's a Diamond record, be able to play on Hot 97.
Hot 97, rhyme ready.
I knew it was going to play on B-96, which is a white pop station, but how does it play on Hot 97, which was like, ran by Jay-Z.
Not ran by him, but he was the most common voice on it at that time.
And that's the thing.
To be able to, there is a way to appeal to both sides and find that place, that place of happiness.
There are things, there's things where like Trump and Biden had a lot of places where they aligned when I looked at their policies.
So I'm really interested in.
We're really bringing happiness back to the world, bringing joy back to the world.
But we have to call people.
on what they're doing for there to be happiness in the world.
We can't just say, oh, it's OK for people to super complicate deals and to collude on deals and to not look at us as human beings, as artists and athletes and actors, that we have to be willing to stand up for that to be able to change something.
And we need to come together as a society to be the first civilization that actually became civil.
You know, to stop war.
It's a possibility of having a worldless world where the human species is not at war with each other, but we are more sophisticated because of social media, because of the information that we have now.
And we just we got to have people like us and God using us to push that to the next side.
We need to go and play I mean, you may like the newer, like the Nintendo Switch has a Sonic that I just, I used to meditate in this during COVID, during the, during the scam-demic, during the pandemic.
That's the closest to the simulation of our life, that and the Bible itself.
If you think it was like simulation theory and the Bible itself, it's like, okay, if you pick your character, you're going to make the character in your image.