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Feb. 29, 2024 - Candace Owens
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Megyn Kelly vs Matt Walsh - Who Is Right?
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All right, guys.
Happy Thursday.
Today on the show, a question.
If you had Matt Walsh and you had Megyn Kelly and they were both hanging off of a cliff and you could only save one of them, who would you choose to save?
It's very scary.
A daunting question.
And actually, you don't really have to consider it because I'm just being dramatic.
But they did have a spat, and I am here for it because I like to challenge us to think.
Think.
Who is right?
Matt Walsh or Megyn Kelly?
We're going to get to that.
Plus, later on in the show, it's revenge of the Sith feminists.
Yes, the feminists are striking back on trad moms.
They just can't stand this trend of women enjoying their lives at home.
And they're also saying, by the way, if you're listening to Joy Reid, that you shouldn't have more children because apparently that's racist or something.
All that and more today coming up on Candace Owens.
Thanks for joining us.
Every time there's a conservative battle of the wits, I am willing to engage it and bring it to my audiences because we should always challenge ourselves to think.
And lately, a lot of it has been surrounding trad wife culture.
People are very upset about trad wife culture.
And Megyn Kelly and Matt Walsh have had a few back and forths regarding just this very thing.
So I'll bring you up to speed.
It's been going on for a while, but we can start at what I presume to be the beginning.
In February of last year, Matt Walsh tweeted this, Well, Megyn Kelly did not like that.
to come home from a long day at work to a grateful wife and children who are glad to
see him, and dinner cooking on the stove.
This is literally all it takes to make a man happy.
We are simple.
Give us this and you will have given us nearly everything we need."
Well, Megyn Kelly did not like that.
She responded, and she said, "'True for some men, sure.
And being a stay-at-home mom is a beautiful choice.'"
Many of us have men who don't want this at all.
Matt Walsh blog.
blog, who want the vibrancy and excitement of a wife with a career that makes her happy
and lights up the fam.
Happy to have such a man in at Doug Brunt.
Okay, so right off the bat, why I think that might have been a little bit of projecting
is because he didn't say that women shouldn't work.
He didn't say anything about being a stay-at-home mom or a working mom.
He simply said, this is what makes men happy.
I am somebody that both works and makes food for my husband and for my family.
I actually love to cook.
So I thought that that was kind of a strange reaction, but let it go.
And then we fast forward to the end of last year, and I was on maternity leave when this happened, but I was dying to weigh in.
So we are going to do it now.
So I'll set the stage for you.
Essentially, a young woman, yes, this is Maddie, the same Maddie that eventually gets into this back and forth with her dad.
But Maddie was on a date and she decided to talk to TikTok about how pleasantly surprised she was since she previously defined herself as a feminist.
Take a listen.
I went on a date this week, and I felt the feminism leaving my body.
I live on the east side of LA, and if you don't know what that means, it's sort of like the artsier part of LA, you know?
People say it's like Brooklyn and New York.
So I go on dates with a lot of men and women who, you know, live over here.
There's always a negotiation about who pays, and that's great.
I like to pay for people, all that.
But what I will say...
Is that I sort of fell into going on a date with the most guys guy I've ever been on a date with and he's from West West, you know, Santa Monica.
He's a bro, right?
A guys guy is usually not my type.
Like I cannot remember the last time that I went on a date with like a straight bros bro, you know what I'm saying?
saying but it befell me it befell me in an organic fashion so I'm on this date
with this guy and the thing about a guy's guy is he's putting his card down
he's paying for everything and I really just it sort of activated something
feral in me I'm not gonna lie he went to like another bar and he went he was
gonna go to the bathroom so I was getting prepared to pay for our drinks
cuz he's been paying all night of course I'm gonna pay for the next round
But as he's going to leave for the bathroom He turns to me and he hands me his credit card and he goes here's my card get us whatever It might be time for me to get away from all these, you know, liberal snowflakes on the east side.
So we of course know that Maddie is a lefty.
We've learned this from her father recently.
But I love this video.
Like I said, Maddie is pretty talented.
And I love this video because it really speaks to the fact that women are doing a lot of things and pursuing a lot of things that don't naturally make them happy.
And let me tell you something.
Naturally, the majority of women like men who are protectors, right?
So one form that she is responding to right there is he's paying for the date, right?
He's taking charge.
He tells her, you know, you can get whatever, I'll be back, and sends his credit card over
to her across the table.
And she's very impressed by this, because men, when men provide, are sort of stepping
into this traditional role.
And of course, so much of the work that I do is talking about the fact that I think
feminists have ruined everything for women, because it's making us pursue things that
don't ultimately make us happy.
So Matt Walsh sees this video, he responds to it, and he says this.
She's impressed that the guy paid, which is fine.
Women are naturally attracted to providers.
But if she likes this aspect of traditional masculinity, she has to accept the rest of it and be willing to play her part and be traditionally feminine.
That's where things usually break down for feminists.
Very interesting point.
It makes me think, and I think that he's actually right.
But Megyn Kelly did not like this at all, and she replied, and she said, actually, no,
she doesn't, Matt.
She can find a man who pays and also gets completely hot for a working wife who doesn't
cook or behave like any sort of traditional wife.
Again, I'm gonna say it seems like she might be projecting here, cuz I just don't see anything
problematic about what Matt said there.
That if you want guys and you are responding to them being traditionally masculine, yeah,
okay.
That guy might be responding to you if you are traditionally feminine.
So Matt asked that question back.
He said to Meghan, why should the man play the traditionally masculine role of paying for the meals if the woman is not going to play the traditionally feminine role in return?
This shouldn't even be controversial.
A woman who accepts gender roles when she can get a free meal out of it but then rejects them in every other context is being self-centered and inconsistent.
And that's to put it gently.
Meghan replies and says, it's not about roleplaying.
It's about who you are and what attracts you.
The message that in order to get a man who wants to take care of you, you have to be a trad wife is not true.
Some guys want the fire and excitement of a working wife.
Trust me, we bring plenty to the table that would be very appealing to many, not all men, and lots of those men would still want to take care of us, protect us, and marry us.
It's awesome.
Okay, I'm going to respond and just say that I don't think that's awesome at all, and I think that Matt is not speaking for all men, but he's probably speaking for a good majority of men when he says that it's not too fun to want to—first, to have to provide for your entire family, and in return, you get nothing but to just look at your wife working and not cooking and not cleaning and not taking care of the children and just going, but I'm just so happy to you for having a career.
You know, it's really giving the vibes of Sheryl Sandberg and Harleen Inn.
You guys can just be business partners.
And I don't think that that works.
I don't think that that is what makes a successful relationship.
I'm a big promoter of the traditional roles in society, which we're going to get to further.
And again, she starts talking about being a traditional wife and a stay-at-home mom.
He hasn't said that you can't work.
He is just saying that this is what actually makes men happy, the yin and the yang of the feminine and the masculine.
But Meghan was not done with him.
She actually jumped on a podcast called Chicks on the Right to further bash him.
And so I want you to listen to her in her own words.
Having said that, I like the guy.
I'm getting a little tired of his nonstop judgment of women who make
different choices than the ones he wants us to make.
Sorry, Matt, you're not our Jesus.
We don't answer to you.
Like, live your life the way you want to live it and stop judging everybody
I'm sick of it.
I and I know you gals, and generally women, we're not judging moms who choose to stay at home and raise their kids.
That's a choice we celebrate.
We love.
Those are our sisters and our friends and our moms.
Women aren't doing this to other women for the most part.
It's guys like Matt.
Like, shut up!
I'm not out there saying your wife is boring and a loser because she decided not to get a job.
I don't think that.
I think it's awesome.
She's the mother of six children.
She must be incredibly busy.
But why are you looking at every woman who works and trying to pass judgment and make her feel guilty about her choices all the time?
It's a fail.
We don't feel guilty because of you.
But I'm just getting tired of his random posts about how the one woman who said, Oh, I'm confessing that I really liked it when the guy I dated wanted to pay for the meal and he's like, no, you can't have that unless you play the traditionally feminine role.
Who died and made you boss of all women?
What are you saying?
I don't know why he feels the need to try to set fake guardrails around our behavior.
It's a no, Matt.
We don't need you.
Okay, a lot I can say about that clip.
I find it to be particularly nasty, especially bringing up his wife.
I don't think it's necessary at all because I don't think that there's anything wrong with what Matt said.
He is speaking about men and what men want.
I don't see what is problematic.
Every time a man expresses himself or says something, women freak out.
And it's because the reality is that women have been spiking the ball on men for a very long time, been telling men to shut up.
And frankly, I'm quite sick of it.
My entire life I was programmed to believe in the patriarchy.
Men are awful, men ain't crap.
Men are speaking on behalf of women.
That's just simply not what happened here on this Twitter exchange.
And yet that is the way that she's interpreting it, only because she's personalizing what
he said.
He's absolutely right.
Women are not even happy with this new design.
We've been listening to everybody tell us that men are awful.
Taylor Swift built an entire career talking trash off of men.
Great.
I'm glad for her.
She's very talented and she can sing.
But everything around us, while it keeps blaring this idea about the patriarchy, is so clearly a matriarchy.
It is so clearly a matriarchy.
It's the only reason that she's feeling triggered when Matt is just expressing What men want.
That's all he's done here.
He's talking about what men want.
Men like women that play the traditional role.
He still has not commented on women working.
So if Meghan has some guilt about that, she should talk about it, but she shouldn't put it on Matt and what he has said here, which I view to be perfectly well and perfectly fair.
And here's a question.
Why is it that Meghan feels that she can tweet out what she wants?
She can also tweet out on behalf of her husband what he wants.
She can also go onto a podcast to discuss what women want, but Matt's not allowed to comment on what he believes men want.
Does that seem fair?
Does that seem like an even exchange that's going on in our society?
It doesn't seem fair because it's not fair.
And it hasn't been fair, really, especially, I would say, over these last 20 years.
And I just want to say regarding that, We've done it Megan's way for a very long time.
I mean, you could make an argument that we've done it the feminist way for the last 100 years.
We have done it.
And the end result is that women are miserable.
Not all of them.
Not all of them.
But too many of them.
By any objective measure of happiness, women aren't happy.
We're binge drinking more.
We're taking pills more.
We're having addictions more.
We are committing suicide more.
We were sold this idea that if we all entered the workforce and tried to be just like men and abandoned the kids and started demanding that men act like women, we were going to be happier and we were going to be freer.
If you're paying attention to what I'm paying attention to, that simply isn't the circumstance.
We've shown you on this show so many times women that are crying, and I actually sympathize with them.
on TikTok because I know they have been sold the glory of feminism in school in the same
way that I was sold the glory of feminism only to meet up with reality in your early
20s and just realize you're in debt.
The men that you're dating don't actually make you happy.
It's not actually what makes you want to marry these individuals because they're being beaten
into feminist submission.
And these women suffer because of that.
And I say listen to them.
I don't make fun of them.
I actually am listening to them because I get it.
I see the ills of feminism, and I'm glad that I was able to escape it in many ways, which is why I use my platform to speak out against it.
Now regarding someone like Megyn Kelly even speaking to women and giving this idea that
it's going to be amazing if you work, because this is her idea, not Matt's.
If you work and you don't cook and you're gonna find a husband that loves that you don't
cook or wanna do anything at home because he's just in such admiration of you as a working
woman.
I refer to this as the LeBron James equation.
You've heard me say this on the show when speaking to black Americans.
I go, why is it that every black household wants their kids to be really good at basketball?
They invest so much in their kids playing basketball or playing football.
And the reality is that yes, if you play basketball day in and day out, right, you might be a
part of the 0.000000001% of people that are going to be the next LeBron James.
You might.
So far, it's been LeBron James, Kobe Bryant, and Michael Jordan.
But maybe you will be as lucky.
But the overwhelming majority of people, no.
That's going to be a waste of time.
I tell them to stay in school and make sure that you are academic because 100% of you can become doctors if you stay in school, you pass your exams, and you go off to school, off to medical school.
You have a 100% chance of becoming a doctor.
So don't go the other route.
And that is the same thing that's happening here.
Meghan is the exception.
She is not the rule.
What is the rule?
As a rule, women are biologically wired to be caretakers.
Literally, your body, your physiological, everything that's happening is wiring you to be a caretaker in some capacity.
We are biologically more emotional than males, and that's a reason for that, because we raise up the kids.
We're supposed to raise up the kids.
We specialize in communication and in emotion.
And as a rule, all of those things work really well in a household with families.
So, what is the exception?
Well, the exception are those women who are able to channel those exact same strengths.
We're talking about e-emotionality and communication.
They're still using their biological strengths to become so exceptional at communication and emotion that they actually earn themselves an incredibly lucrative career.
Like Oprah, what was she good at?
Communication and emotion.
Like Taylor Swift, what is she good at?
What is her strength?
Communication and emotion.
She's singing songs and women are responding to that emotion and that communication.
But as a rule, most women that are graduating college today are going to enter into fields where their natural talents And so what's going to be the end result?
And they're going to take up those jobs anyway, those nine to six or nine to five existence,
because they're already in massive amounts of debt thanks to school.
And so what's going to be the end result?
They're going to keep these jobs and stay in these fields that make them miserable because
they recognize the need to pay bills, and they are hardly going to have any time to
date or to socialize.
When they do date, they're going to come across a lot of men that simply aren't their type,
because too many of them are being beaten over the head and told not to be men.
So what I try to do is I try to recognize my own privilege.
I am a privileged person.
You go, Candace, what about you, Candace?
Are you trapped by anything?
I am a privileged person in the fact that I can leave work before lunch and spend the rest of the day with my children, right?
Prepping for tomorrow's show.
That is an exception.
That is not a rule.
And so I've always promised that no matter where I end up in life, I am not going to get my head in the clouds and believe that this is going to be the path for every single woman, that they are going to be the authors of their day, and they're only going to have to work for a couple of hours and be able to go home.
And also, I'm going to be clear about what makes me happy.
There is nothing that makes me happier than being able to serve my family in some capacity.
And to that last point about saying that it's men, again creating this image of the ghost of the patriarchy, men like Max that say these things.
Have you been paying attention?
There is nothing nastier than women and their treatment of other women who don't live like them.
The way that the trad wives are being talked about today.
Look at Ballerina Farm.
What is she doing?
I'm sorry, she loves her eight kids.
Article after article written by women of why this is not aspirational.
It has been women that have been judging other women.
As far as I've been alive, the message has been very clear from other women.
If you want to stay at home and raise your children, you are somehow failing.
You are somehow giving in to the patriarchy.
When in reality, if that is a decision that you make, and you don't have to, I want people to know that you are the heroes in society.
Because there is no job that is, A, more rewarding or tougher than raising human beings.
And that's all I have to say about that.
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Okay, now it's time for some Topics du Jour.
♪♪ So let's stick with that point of the monologue.
Revenge of the feminists.
They're suddenly upset that women are embracing the quote-unquote trad wife lifestyle, which means that feminists, who have been spiking the ball for a very long time on trad wives, are now creating this delusion in the media, right?
They're starting to write, and it's women, it is women that are writing these articles, I have paid attention, just trying to highlight how, oh, actually the trad wife is, the trad wife lifestyle is dangerous.
It could lead to this, it could lead to that.
And so I saw this article in CNN, and it was written by an intern, actually.
Her name is Taylor Nicchioli.
And yes, Taylor is a woman.
And the headline is, A Single Mother Speaks Out on How the Tradwife Lifestyle Led to Her Divorce.
Oh my gosh, if you guys are thinking about getting married and taking care of your kids and making meals for your husband, just know that this cautionary tale that they keep telling you, these other women are telling you, these other women who are barely getting paid to write these articles are telling you really as a form of a projection.
But let's explore this.
This is actually fascinating.
So, the first sentence I'll just read to you, because they're trying to paint a picture.
Sporting retro 50s hairstyles and cinched aprons, tradwife influencers have taken over
a pocket of the Internet.
It goes on to tell the story of Anitza Templeton of Littleton, Colorado, embodied the tradwife
lifestyle for ten years.
At 4 a.m., she would start making bread and begin prep for the day's meals, always from
scratch.
The mother of four would do all of the household chores, while her husband focused solely on
breadwinning.
Here's a quote from Ms. Anitza.
Social media can make everything look really pretty because it's a 30-second clip
But 30 seconds out of 10 years really omits a lot of ugliness in those relationships
So just to be clear Anitza is now 41 years old and she is speaking out about her former imprisonment
Because I don't know I guess she felt she had to wake up at 4 a.m. Today
to begin baking bread?
I mean, what an absolute nonsense.
I follow these, quote-unquote, trad wife accounts, and nowhere do I feel pressured to wake up at 4 a.m.
to bake some bread.
So if you're doing that, that's on you, babe.
That is on you, babe, okay?
Now, let's cut to who this Anitza Templeton person actually is, because I was interested.
I'm like, let's not read the CNN.
Propagandist piece, which is telling women, do not do this because the government will lose the power that we have over every facet of your life.
If women start staying home and rearing their children, then we won't be able to brainwash their kids in school, and mom will start paying attention to the homework again and realize that we've become a bunch of perverts, and we're raising them up to believe in government dependence.
I mean, let me calm down, because it infuriates me to see this.
But I decided to look up, Anita.
Honestly, I started going to therapy.
videos talking about her prior relationships.
So let's listen to Anitza in her own words.
Honestly, I started going to therapy.
He was tired of how horrible my sex drive had declined after all the children and everything
was my fault.
And I was just the worst person, wife, mother, everything in the whole entire world.
So, I made an appointment at the doctor thinking I had something wrong with my hormone levels or something.
Like, obviously I'm going to keep pushing through.
This is my life.
And I was just kind of a shell of a human and a robot version of myself.
I went to the doctor and said, hey I'm getting a little bit older.
I'm in my later 30s.
Could you test me?
Is there something wrong?
And like I was just kind of, you know, very dead inside.
And the doctor, you know, way to go to her.
She picked up immediately what was going on.
She like asked a little bit more about my personal life and then she said, I'm not testing anything.
I want you to feel better first.
And she prescribed me an antidepressant.
I got in trouble for that.
He is the one that drove me to the appointment and then picked me up and he was so excited to hear what was this magic fix.
And when I told him that they prescribed me an SSRI, he lost his s***.
Okay, let me tell you what she actually just said there.
She said, I wasn't having sex with my husband, okay?
I went to the doctor to see if there was a hormone issue of why I didn't want to have
sex with my husband, and my doctor said, girlfriend, hero doctor, don't even think about if you're
having a hormone issue.
Here's a pill for depression, and it's just going to make you happy.
We're going to prescribe you SSRIs, which can fundamentally change your brain chemistry.
There's been plenty of examples in the media of women killing themselves, killing their children, after being prescribed an entire cocktail of SSRIs.
So her husband was not keen for her to just be given a pill before you even tested her hormones.
That sounds remarkably sane to me.
But I guess we're supposed to think, oh my God, what a monster.
He wasn't even happy for her that she got this magic pill that was just gonna make her life absolutely perfect.
And by the way, I really am not sure that if she was taking SSRIs that was going to bring up her sex drive in any capacity, but she got a feminist doctor.
Thank goodness she did, and that's not all she got.
Take a listen to the rest of what she admits.
And I was like, okay, yeah, maybe the problem is me.
I'll go to therapy.
Maybe it's me.
So I kept, but I knew, I knew what the problem was.
I went to therapy and I started telling the therapist all the stories like all the arguments we had been having and you know if anything I was twisting the story to lean more to him like I was definitely giving him all the benefit of the doubt and definitely being like brutally honest with what I was doing and then maybe you know definitely giving him the benefit of the doubt whenever I told her the story.
And my therapist was like, so I'm concerned for you.
It sounds like the person you're with has some sort of a personality disorder.
I can't diagnose them.
I've never met them.
But just from your stories, I would assume there's definitely something wrong.
And she just started to make a whole bunch of things piece together and from going through the motions of putting myself first and making sure that I was taking care of myself, once I could see him for what it was and understand... I also started reading the book Why Does He Do That by Lundy Bancroft.
There's free... I'm gonna put the title of that book in the comments.
So therapy and that book and just like starting to learn made it impossible to stay.
And there we have it.
Then she dived into therapy, ladies and gentlemen, and she started reading feminist books and she made her realize, actually, I need to put me first.
That's what she says.
The therapist made her recognize that she needed to start putting herself first.
And that is not how a marriage works.
That is an utterly ridiculous statement to make in a marriage.
In my marriage, guys, I put myself first.
Does that sound like good therapy?
No, that does not sound like a union of two individuals coming together and seeing themselves as one, which is what marriage is actually supposed to be about.
But of course, because we have this feminist movement, this feminist cancer that will not go away.
And then you couple that with all of these therapists who are really just perverting traditional lifestyles.
There exists to tell you that you're a woman, but you could be a man tomorrow.
You're a mom, but why should you have to watch your kids?
All of this is the big bad patriarchy boogeyman.
It must be Matt Walsh's fault.
It's because Matt Walsh has a platform that you feel like you have to live this life.
But this woman, who I am looking at in just five seconds, I think she doesn't even look stable, was plucked up from obscurity from CNN and put on as someone with no mention in the article that yes, we should also mention that she's on pills and a therapist essentially ruined her relationship because that's what a lot of therapists do.
They don't make relationships better, they make them worse because they look at you and they tell you that it's perfectly fine for you to be a narcissist.
a la Prince Harry, who I talk about all the time.
What happened to him was too much therapy.
Therapy today is about me, me, me.
Why shouldn't I have to do anything?
It's not my fault.
It's never my fault.
And that's what therapists tell you.
It's never your fault, because that's how they know that you'll come back,
because they're not giving you anything that's going to help you shape your life
Again, I'm speaking about the majority here.
I have seen examples of good psychologists, psychiatrists, and therapists, but I think the overwhelming majority are not even being trained to try to make relationships better.
They're just being trained to make people inherently more selfish.
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And speaking of being inherently more selfish, there is the case of Joy Reid, you know,
the MSNBC host who just gets herself into a lot of trouble by opening her mouth, really, is what I would say.
Well, she has just come out and asked a very big question.
Why do we need more kids?
Take it away, Joy Reid.
The United States has a population of north of 327 million people.
Why do we need more kids? I mean, your party, Senator Tuberville, is the one screaming
that 10 million immigrants, which I don't even know that that number even makes any sense because
it doesn't, have streamed into the country since Joe Biden has been president.
And you're claiming that that's too many people.
But now you're saying we need more kids?
Can you explain who's the we and what's the purpose?
You're also a senator from the state of Alabama.
Are you saying the state of Alabama needs more kids?
Why does the state of Alabama need more kids?
More kids for what?
There was a time when the state of Alabama absolutely needed more kids because, you know, Alabama was a slave state.
And the mandate of the planter class in Alabama was for black women to produce more kids because those kids were property.
And they could work more kids and make more money on their plantations.
Are you saying the state of Alabama needs more kids because you think that those populations will include people who are maybe destitute and desperate enough if you kick out the immigrants like a lot of y'all want to do and you could make them do the work that the migrants are doing now?
Because that kind of sounds slavery-ish.
I mean, you're also a white guy.
Are you saying the we as white folks need more kids?
Is this like a Great Replacement thing where you're concerned that there's not enough white people in the population versus the growth of the Latino population, the black population, and the Asian American population?
And so the we as white people need to make white women have more kids?
And that's the we?
And that's the why?
Because it's a little creepy.
A little Handmaid's Tale-y, don't you think?
Joy Reid is simply unwell.
That's the only way I can respond to that.
She's just completely unwell.
She's all over the place.
How are you trying to correlate the border issue, 10 million illegal immigrants, the majority of them men, fighting-age men, that are coming in from obscure countries like Kazakhstan and China, that are getting on planes and coming here, and we have no idea who they are or what their purpose in this country is, to somebody encouraging people to have more children.
These two issues have nothing to do with one another.
And then she goes from saying, why do we need more kids, like asking that question, why do we need more kids?
We've got 10 million men coming over the border, not a lot of children anymore, as you see all the images, to then suddenly making it about race.
Did he make a statement that I only want white people to have more children, or is he saying that he wants more people to have more children?
It is amazing that this woman is asking the question, and she's either Then I think very plausibly, very stupid, or she's a liar, right?
Or she simply doesn't know her own history.
Because what she is promoting, actually, sounds very backwards.
What she is promoting sounds very much like the population council that existed, the eugenics councils that existed very much.
The entire reason that they created Planned Parenthood and encouraged people not to have
more kids was because they were racist and they wanted black Americans in the South,
if you're following along here, to not produce more children.
They wanted to sterilize, Margaret Sanger said that outright in a letter, to sterilize
the black race.
So sweetheart, you are the one that is repeating racist talking points, okay?
Not a person that is getting on a platform encouraging people to have more children,
because that is what we need.
We need to encourage larger families.
We need to take more power away from the state.
And we have ceded so much to them by making our families smaller, by corrupting our families,
not even aspiring to family and the nuclear family unit whatsoever, while simultaneously
rotting the minds of the young via the education system.
So that's just a brief update to let you know that Joy Reid still is not very smart.
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We are somehow already out of time.
But before we go, rather than reading your comments, I am going to give you this teaser for a huge interview that I am dropping tomorrow.
So if you are somebody that has felt maybe like you don't know enough about foreign policy, but you recognize now how You must know more about foreign policy to understand why it is that you're suffering at the gas pump, and you need just a brief introduction to recognizing what it is that America has been up to overseas.
You are going to love this sit-down that I had with a comedian named Dave Smith.
Let's watch the trailer.
I think there's actually lots of things about Israel that are better than most of the Arab world.
It's just wrong what they do to the Palestinians.
What are some of the treatment that you get being a Jewish person that says that?
My grandfather escaped Nazi Germany.
He was the only member of his family who survived.
He had several family members who were killed in front of him.
When you have these people who are lying about war after war after war that does nothing but damage our country, and then you're calling them an anti-Semite if they don't support the next one, I just understand there's going to be this reactionary movement where people are like, yeah, you know what?
That does describe me.
You're very interested in foreign policy.
What would be your solution to Ukraine?
Let's say, actually, the military-industrial complex doesn't get a say anymore.
Dave Smith, this guy from Jersey, gets a say.
You're telling me the president has the authority to bomb any country he wants to at any time for any reason, yet doesn't have the authority to protect our borders.
Like, you just read me the Constitution and you explain to me what part of it you can possibly interpret as leading to that outcome.
Someone please look me in my eyes and tell me Dick Cheney and George W. Bush and Barack Obama and Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton, these people aren't war criminals.
All of the people who are responsible for destroying the United States of America
want you to be fighting with your fellow Americans.
Ladies and gentlemen, ready your engines.
It is going to be controversial, terrible things are going to be written and said about me, but I don't care, because I am all about the education, I'm all about having conversations, fostering discussions with people that I agree with, people that I disagree with, but ultimately my goal is to always make my audience and my listeners more informed.
Ladies and gentlemen, unfortunately that is all the time that we have for today.
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