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June 27, 2023 - Candace Owens
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This Gay Man Was Set On Fire?!
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All right, guys. Happy Tuesday.
Actually, rather unhappy Tuesday.
I told you guys yesterday I wasn't going to be here because I was going to go up to New York for a day with my husband to catch the ballet, but I am here.
What happened, of course, you guys know I just have really bad luck in airports, so I boarded my flight, so excited to go to this ballet, and then they de-boarded us, said it was going to be a two-hour delay.
Then they came out and said, never mind, re-board.
We got on the plane a second time, and then they said that LaGuardia was not accepting any flights landing for the next couple of hours due to some So unfortunately, my entire flight in the belly got canceled, but the good news is that I'm here.
I'm here, and we can get into another subject, one that I've been meaning to lean in on for a while regarding the topic of marriage overall.
I saw this really interesting clip of Dwayne Wade circulating.
He is married to Gabrielle Union, hyphenated Wade, and they were talking about how They now split things 50-50.
They've always split things 50-50 in their marriage, which sounds more to me like something you do when you get divorced, not while you are married.
I want to talk about that because I'm wondering why are people even getting married anymore?
Plus, there is a new Jussie Smollett 2.0 on the block.
Yeah, apparently there was this guy and he was chased down and set on fire because he was gay.
And apparently, actually, that didn't happen at all.
All that and more today coming up on Candace Owens.
So it's a big question and I'm wondering just why are people getting married anymore?
It seems that we are slowly chipping away at what marriage is supposed to represent as an institution, and people are sort of engaging in these progressive-like marriages, people that get married and say, as just one example, I want to keep my last name.
I'm a woman. I've always been known as this.
this, I want to keep my last name. I find that to be weird.
I was so excited to take my husband's last name. Another element of this is we're
getting married, but we don't want kids. We don't want kids to disrupt how we live. We
love our financial security because we don't have children. We want to be able to travel the
world. Okay. Typically, people think when you get married, it's because you want to
establish your own family. But for some people, it's enough just to have one another.
Now we're starting to see this phenomenon of people talking about not wanting to blend their finances.
Which brings me to the topic of Gabrielle Union and Dwayne Wade, who I don't think anybody
would disagree with the statement. They are definitively not in a traditional marriage.
They do everything a little bit different. Just a couple of examples here. She did not want to
lose her last name, so she hyphenated it. They are raising their son, born Zaire, as a daughter
that they are now calling Zaya, despite the fact that Zaya's mother says, no, that's my son and
has been fighting them in court. They're championing that.
Okay. They did not go the traditional route They decided to use surrogacy.
So things are very different in this marriage.
But then sort of the cherry on top of all of it was this interview where Gabrielle Union sat down with Bloomberg to say that everything in her household is split 50-50.
Take a listen.
It's weird to say I'm head of household, because in this household, we split everything 50-50.
But in the other households that each of us have to support, it puts this, there's always this, like, gorilla on your back that is like, you better work, you better work.
You know, you gonna sleep in?
You know, somebody might not eat.
Come on, come on, you gotta work. And it's hard.
It's hard to let that go.
So to be clear, Gabrielle Union is worth about $50 million.
It doesn't mean that she doesn't have a ton of people that she needs to take care of.
But what is really compelling about this interview and why it went so viral is because her husband, Dwayne Wade, is worth $175 million.
So it's bizarre to hear her say that she feels this gorilla on her back because she has to worry about other people that she has to support when her husband is quite literally worth $175 million.
People weighed into this on Twitter, said how bizarre it was.
This is not How it should be.
People are realizing this is not feeling like it's a marriage per se.
So somebody questioned Dwayne Wade on the podcast Club Shay Shay about what his wife had said.
Is it real? Are they actually splitting things 50-50 when he has a net worth of $175 million?
Take a listen. Because I think I said one time when he was in Miami, I said something about it being my house.
That I paid for. My wife looked at me, she was like, you will never say that to me again when it's something that we share.
And so my wife was like, when we moved to L.A., I got half on it.
You will never say my house again.
She said, you can say that in the arena.
And so in our life, our home, Okay, I know that it has become very common for people to say, let's normalize.
Let's normalize things that are so very clearly abnormal.
But can we all just address the fact that this is not something that should be normalized?
The idea that you are paying for your child is if you've had a divorce and it's a custody
split 50-50, and so you have to contribute 50% of everything you pay for them.
When you have a child, this is not the way that a married couple should think.
You should not be thinking, OK, I'm going to enroll my child into this private school,
so I'm going to pay 50% of the semester, and my husband's going to pay 50% out of the semester,
and we're all going to take this money from our two separate accounts.
But this is what he is alleging is happening in their relationship.
He's confessing it. And he's saying it.
Ha, ha, ha. That's how they do it on podcasts.
Make it seem like it's cool.
Like it's chic. Like it's forward.
And it's not forward.
It's not cool. And it's not chic.
It's flat out bizarre. So I'll ask the question, what is the purpose of this marriage?
What is the purpose of marriage?
I thought marriage was when two people become one.
And now we are slowly chipping away at every single aspect of what it means to become one.
I don't want your name. I don't want to blend our father's name.
I don't want our finances to become one.
I don't want our name to become one.
I don't even want to think of our child as something that we created and is one.
Rather, let's separate that.
Let's separate the goodness and the wholeness of that by thinking of our child as people who are divorced think about their children, which are, what are the requirements?
What are my financial contributions?
what are those contributions supposed to look like so I can feel accomplished?
And by the way, when you're looking at that clip, even though he's ha-hi of Gabrielle
Union, does that seem comfortable when she's saying that she feels this stress because
she knows that she has other people that she needs to take care of?
And to be clear, we're only allowed to show you 30 seconds of the Dwayne Wade clip, but
he goes on to stipulate that there are people in their lives, let's say, and I'm giving
an example here, her mother gets sick while he's saying that she pays for 100% of that.
If she wants to help out her sister with a bill, then Gabrielle Union pays for 100% of
that.
This is not a rational way to think in marriage.
That is, as I said, not two people becoming one, but people that have agreed that they're
comfortable being roommates for a very long time.
And that's what I would say to them.
I would cast Dwayne Wade and Gabrielle Union as roommates.
And that is what we are going to be left with in this circumstance if we don't start adding
the severity back to what marriage is supposed to entail.
So I thought about that this morning.
I thought, what is the reason that I think people are getting married today?
Well, what are the reasons that people are getting divorced?
Because they're not viewing marriage as a partnership.
They're not viewing it as family.
They're not viewing it as two people becoming one.
Rather, they're viewing it as Instagram moments.
I think a lot of people get married because they want to have a wedding.
I hate to say it, but I think it's true.
I think you'll admit it. You've been to couples.
You've been to those weddings where you go, I don't know that these people should have gotten married, but what else were they going to do?
They've been together for seven years.
She's getting the itch. She wants a ring.
She wants to post the shots, the notorious hand shots that we all see on Instagram after you get engaged.
The, oh my God, she said yes.
They want to have a wedding. She wants to wear a white dress.
It is becoming about aspects of social media.
Another undercurrent that I see happening when it comes to marriage is it's about resolving insecurities.
In reality, people don't want to be alone.
That is something that doesn't go away.
Maybe you've not had the best relationships in the past.
Maybe you've had a horrific breakup of some description and you feel...
That at least you are safe in a marriage.
It's a safer harbor for you to be into because it requires more commitment, which is to say that it would take a lot more to just break up a marriage, right?
Do you really want to get lawyers and go through all this or you're going to try to fight through everything?
You're marrying, again, out of a tremendous insecurity.
And then, of course, there's the no-brainer and it's tax incentives.
It makes more sense to be married because you will get a tax break for being married rather than just going ahead and agreeing to be roommates, which I think is probably the best way to look at Dwyane Wade and Gabrielle Union's relationship.
Anyways, I thought that the conversation is worth opening up because I do believe that as we talk about the We also need to note and understand that people aren't even aspiring to family anymore.
Even when they are entering a union, so to speak, that is supposed to represent family, they are bringing in corrosive elements, which displays it as being anything but about God, anything but about faith, and anything but about the core institution of family.
And that's all that I'm going to say about that.
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Okay, now it's time for some topics du jour.
If this month has taught me anything, it is that it is hard out there for homosexuals.
That is what we are supposed to take away from the month of pride is the reason why,
as we showed you yesterday, many of them have to parade in the street butt naked on bicycles
in front of small family and children because you need to understand that they are here
and they have been suffering very long in this society, in this patriarchal homophobic
And so I was very shocked and wanted to share this story, learning that there was a man named Scott Rowan who survived a horrific attack in San Diego, of all places, a victim of a hate crime.
Somebody set him on fire simply because he was gay.
Take a listen. A routine walk turned into a nightmare for a Southern California man.
39-year-old Scott Rowan went to a restaurant in his San Diego neighborhood to inquire about a job.
He says he heard two people yelling homophobic slurs at him, so he yelled back.
Rowan, who was gay, says the next thing he knew, he was being doused with some sort of liquid and then set on fire.
Immediately after that, I just, I went up kind of like Kohl's on a barbecue.
Simply just went into flames.
They were obviously out targeting LGBT community.
In the middle of Pride Month, you see that?
They're waving flags downtown in San Diego.
But this guy, I definitely believe him, went downtown and somebody just said, oh my gosh, it's very obvious to me that you are a homosexual.
Somehow they knew. And they chased him and they set him on fire.
And it's crazy and I'm glad that we're talking about it.
He then took to his Instagram to double down on this narrative and share his healing process.
Here is what he shared.
In this first post, you can see his bandages really covering his torso and his upper body.
And he wrote as a caption, the healing process can now begin.
Percocet is helping with the pain a lot.
I'm so glad that he's taking Percocet for the pain.
He also shared this onto his Instagram.
He wrote, yep, this happened.
Gay-bashed and set on fire by some random dudes.
Gotta love Hillcrest.
Oh my goodness. And those are some I think we can all admit those are some very serious burns, very severe burns.
And I haven't heard a story like this in my life ever.
I grew up with gay kids. Gay people in my family have never heard of gay people just being set on fire in the same way that I haven't really heard instances of black people suffering from the Ku Klux Klan in all of my life.
But these situations do crop up.
And, of course, America is happy to embrace them when they do because it reinforces media narratives that everybody is a bigot, everybody's a racist, everybody's a homophobe.
And that is why if you turn to Twitter when this story broke, people were sad for him but also happy that they could say, see, we told you so.
Take a look at what this Twitter user said.
He wrote, Amen, Adam.
This other user had this to say.
A little bit more long-winded, he wrote, By examining the interconnectedness of these prejudices, we can better understand the urgent need for solidarity and collective action to combat hate in all its forms.
Oh, my God. It's like Mad Libs.
Just got every single word in there.
It was amazing. Honestly, that belongs in a Hall of Fame.
Abating, race-baiting, anti-Semitism-baiting, Islamophobia-baiting Hall of Fame.
I don't know how he did it, but he did it. And the thing that happened thereafter was that...
The guy, that Scott Rowan guy who was set on fire, and it turns out that that's not what happened.
He just lied.
I don't know. It's weird. I don't think it's made up.
What actually happened, despite the fact that he told ABC that he stopped, dropped, and rolled on the cement, patting himself and quickly putting out the flames, and he suffered second-degree burns, and he had given the quotation that he was just in survival mode, just in the zone, I have to save my life.
But the real story, according to San Diego Police...
And which ABC then had to publish as an update, was that Rowan was indeed set on fire, but it wasn't from some homophobic dudes.
Instead, it was from a pregnant woman that he was allegedly assaulting.
Here's the quote. San Diego says, the San Diego police say that the video shows Rowan attacking the pregnant woman first.
Whoa! Whoa! Maybe he inhaled too many of the flames.
He thought that homophobic dudes beat him, but it turns out actually he beat a pregnant woman.
And then I am assuming, we have scant details here, but it sounds like she got some revenge and she then set him on fire.
No men were involved with this.
Doesn't seem like it had anything to do with his sexuality.
And yet, he was very confident in posting this account to his Instagram and
also speaking to the media, which begs the question.
We are experiencing so many of these hoaxes, these racial hoaxes,
these homophobia hoaxes.
And let me tell you something, hoaxes can only exist when people are tremendously
privileged, of course.
It means that you have such an absence of homophobia, such an absence of racism, that you have to create it,
right?
You actually have to create it fictitiously because you can't find the real stuff, right?
We had shared with you that same story of the girl at the graduation who stole the mic and said it was because a white woman just wouldn't let her say her name.
I guess, you know, that white woman just woke up and chose violence that day against black people.
And then we showed you how people that were in that graduation disputed the account and said the black girl was lying.
But what's interesting about that story and this story is the element of sociopathy that we're seeing.
The courage that it takes to lie boldly in front of a camera.
This girl took to her TikTok to create a narrative that a white person was being racist to her.
This guy went on the news and went on his Instagram and tried to achieve a level of fame knowing fully well that he
had assaulted a pregnant woman and then she got her revenge
thereafter.
What does that tell you about our society?
This is not normal.
Lying, sure, human beings lie, but to lie that boldly and that courageously in front of a camera knowing fully well
that, of course, people were going to inspect this narrative fully,
That takes something else.
Something is happening in this society and it's not a good thing.
Again, I am not free to comment beyond that.
I'm simply here to give you the news.
And the news, the accurate news, is that a gay man faked a homophobic attack against himself after he assaulted him.
I'm going to go.
Okay, so I really want to get back into this Brian Koberger case. I am going to jog your memory on this
It's obviously something that we you can't forget it. It was just so horrific. We had never seen anything like it
There were four roommates. They were students that were slaughtered in their home at night
Maddie Mogan 21 years old Kaylee Goncalves 21 years old Xana Kernodle 20 21 years old and her boyfriend Ethan Chapin
also 20 years old and that was last November It happened in their off-campus home and in Moscow, Idaho.
We were all seized by this We remember the horrific images there was blood seeping out
of the house And then it seemed like there was a really long time for
police to catch the person and we all wondered how on earth Could you stab a four people one roommate saw the person?
Said his face was covered, but she recognized the bushy eyebrows
It was a surviving roommate who chose to call the police the next morning
We don't really know any details about that whether she was in shock
And I've been following this case obviously because I'm a parent and it's a very scary
Concept for any parent to know that this tragedy could have taken place just outside of a college campus.
And it's very scant on details.
What I have been amazed by with this case is that we know that Brian Koberger was arrested.
We were told that in June we were going to be able to see what evidence was being used to indict him.
And then they decided to use a grand jury to indict him.
And we weren't able to see any evidence.
And that really is bothersome to me because this is a case of high public interest obviously for parents in general
Well things are taking an even stranger twist. There's been a lot of weird elements to me first and foremost
They wanted to tear down the house But his defense filed something asking for them not to tear
down the house so that they could go in and get their own evidence
Which seems really bizarre to me. I'm thinking you just stabbed four people
Are you really gonna try to get away with it or pretend that you're not guilty?
Or do you actually think that you have a chance?
Are you actually alleging that you are not guilty and you think that somehow you are going to be able to prove your
innocence, right?
So that element was fascinating to me the fact that he's been meeting with a pastor in prison
Definitely not following what I would say is a standard criminal profile
But of course if you stabbed four people, you're probably clinically insane. You probably don't follow a standard
profile anywhere Well listen to this, right?
Another thing that I had said to my producers as we were following this and why I said that we should wait for more details to come out on this case before we report on them was because I felt that the media kept doing hit pieces on him referring to his heroin addiction back in 2014.
I kept remarking on how strange and unnecessary it was to do hit pieces on a person that stabbed four people.
He's not likable, you We don't need to do a hit piece on this person.
We're all thinking he's a murderer.
He's a maniac. He's killed for people.
We don't need you to dig into a heroin addiction that he had in 2014.
They were talking to people that he went to middle school with.
And I was going, all I want is the details regarding how he killed for people.
I'm already going to hate him.
You don't need to dig back into his history.
Well, this piece has completely thrown me for a loop.
So the victim's families are not allowed to speak out about what's happened.
And they are fighting that gag, right?
The court has been so hush-hush about this case that even the victim's families are fighting the court saying, hey, we want to talk about what happened.
I want them to have the freedom.
Could you imagine suffering that tragedy and then having a court gagging you?
I don't see what the upside is for the court because I'm assuming there's so much evidence to convict him.
That it doesn't matter. Let them speak.
It's not going to save him from a prison sentence if they're talking about what they've suffered.
But a gag remains in place.
The update to this case now is that in documents filed on 30 on Thursday
Pardon his attorneys have said that there they have established
No connection between the 28 year old suspect and the students that were fatally stabbed in their off-campus home
They said quote there is no connection between mr. Kober and the victims
There is no explanation for the total lack of DNA evidence from the victims in mr. Kober
Apartment office home or vehicle and let me tell you why I find that to be very strange
The first thing that I had said and again, I know nothing about this
But if you stabbed four people, I would assume that you would have cuts on your hands
And the media had leaked that when he drove back to Pennsylvania from Moscow, Idaho, with his father, that police officers had stopped him and had taken pictures of his hands.
So I was waiting for that to be a big piece of the evidence that obviously you stabbed four people, you're going to have some cuts or some bruises on your arms, on your hands.
It's four people that were butchered.
We saw blood seeping out of the house, where apparently there is no DNA evidence from the victims in his apartment, in his office, in his home, or in the vehicle.
So that registered to me as very strange.
Now, what did they have?
Well, we all heard about the sheath, right?
They had the sheath, which fit a knife that they found left behind on the bed.
He's a criminology PhD student, so it seemed like a very sloppy thing for him to have left the sheath on the bed.
By the way, I want to be very clear.
I'm not saying he's innocent.
I'm just saying to you that I do not think that the state has a very strong case against him, and they have not yet presented any other aspect other than this sheath.
Now, what's interesting about the sheath and why I found this lawyer's statement to be very compelling is they're saying that the FBI... We're good to go.
The prosecutors previously argued that Koburger had no right to FBI data that was uncovered from the method.
And obviously the defense team is saying, no, yeah, we do not accept that.
We need the information because they are saying that it's a fluke and that however they got this is obviously a fluke.
And they're also stating that a second male's DNA was found inside of the Moscow home and that police allegedly found DNA from a third man on a glove that was discovered outside of the home.
And so this case is just incredibly interesting because it all seems, of course we haven't been told anything, that it's hinging upon this sheath.
And if it is in fact that they tied him to this sheath and they still do not have a murder weapon and all they have is this sheath and a 23andMe FBI type data which tied him to it, I would say that it is a very shaky case.
And that upsets me.
It shakes me to my core because...
How is there not more DNA evidence?
And you could say, I know some people have been saying on Twitter, well, he was a criminology major.
He would have known what to do.
How brilliant could this individual have been?
We're talking about four individuals.
You remember those photos of blood that was literally seeping outside of the home.
This wasn't like they were stabbed one or two times.
And so I have been following this case, and I have said, if you are a lawyer, and I know that people have pointed me to a few feeds, I'd like to hear what your take is on this, because right now, my suspicion is that the state does not have a strong case against Brian Koberger.
And as I said, that's very chilling, because—and I'm, again, not saying he is innocent or guilty.
I am not there to comment on that.
All I do is interpret the facts of this case, and there have been so few— That it doesn't seem like this is actually a very strong case.
So I would love to hear what you guys have to say about that if you have been following it.
And please don't comment and say, oh my God, I feel like he's guilty.
He looks guilty. People say that.
I'm like, that's not a thing. You can't just say, he looks guilty.
I feel like he's guilty.
Obviously, we all want the person behind this hideous murder to be captured.
I am asking you to actually assess whether or not you think that based on Cell phone data, which ties him to the general area which he lived around, by the way.
He lives around their home.
I think within 10 minutes or 15 minutes from the home, he lives around there.
And a sheath in FBI statistical data, if they're actually going to be able to get him for this crime, do you actually feel that that is enough to convict him?
Or are we all just really emotional because of how horrific this crime is?
So, asking the question, would love to hear your guys' comments.
In the meantime, let's get into some of your prior comments from episodes past.
Alright, first set of comments are pertaining to our Bundflog celebration of Pride.
Obviously, we showed you yesterday the men on the bicycles that were just driving around naked because why not?
It's June. That's not weird.
Well, Timothy Zaka writes, I wore my sister's skirt, but never did anyone ever think he might be trapped in a guy's body.
Everything seems as though people have been hypnotized into believing this crap.
Yep, I tend to believe that, which is why it's so compelling when in What is a Woman?
in Matt Walsh's film, he goes to Africa and they just start laughing at him when he even talks about this.
You have to be tremendously privileged to even consider some of the concepts that we're considering in America today.
Patricia Martinez writes, another good question, Candace, is why would those grown men want to be naked in front of kids?
They try to say they're not groomers and perverts, but their actions sure do say different.
Well, that is a very good question and not one that I'm going to try to answer on YouTube.
Resonate 2010 writes, Seattle is our lifelong stomping ground and we have many fond memories here.
Between CHAZ in 2020 and the defunding of our police that has greatly increased crime, derelict leadership, homeless people literally taking over our sidewalks and events such as the one that you have depicted the last several years have been an absolute nightmare.
That fountain you highlighted is at the Seattle Center, a once family-friendly area that includes the Pacific Science Center.
Yeah, I mean, I really encourage people to move.
I am always confounded when there are individuals that live in these circumstances.
You have high taxes, you're dealing with homelessness, you're dealing with crime, you're dealing with things like defund the police, and now you're dealing with people that are just being naked for an entire month in areas that are highly populated by children.
What is the incentive to stay there?
Just because you have a memory of something being great doesn't mean that it is still great.
And what you tend to find is that when people do move, it's almost like they're coming out of Stockholm Syndrome and they go, what was I doing there for so long?
And I'm happy that I have never been fearful to move to places that reflect my actual values, which is why I live here in Tennessee.
Once, twice, five, nine, four, two writes, what the F? I had to rewind the part where they said, we're queer, we're here, and we're coming for your children, just to see if I heard that correctly.
And unfortunately, I did.
I'm a lesbian myself, and I absolutely do not approve of this at all.
This makes people like myself that do not approve of this look bad.
This has gone too far. Can we go back to the old days where LGBT people didn't chant something like this?
I have commented on this over and over again.
I think it is coming upon people that are lesbian and gay to use whatever platforms and means that they have to speak out against it because it does.
It does taint all individuals that are allegedly in this community.
That's why they call it a community.
When you have a more vocal part of That is saying sentences like that.
We're coming for your children, which was allegedly a conservative conspiracy theory.
And now you go, well, I'm not so sure since they're outwardly stating it.
Lastly, this comment reads, I remember back in college in biology class and anatomy class, I heard that there were two genders, two Xs and an XY, but then there were also hermaphroditism where a person had both sex organs.
I know I'm old I believe when this happened back in the day parents who had no knowledge or education about this
Were pressured to choose a gender for their child Then when puberty kicked in the child may have felt
different from the gender that the parents chose in my humble thinking
I think parents maybe should wait until puberty to really see what and how their child feels about their gender and
then let him and her Decide what to do with their lives. Yeah, I think I would
have the same opinion when you have people that are born and
And they are actually Intersex. I think that you should probably wait to see.
But what do I know?
I am not a doctor, guys.
It's very important for me to state over and over again.
I am not a doctor.
I know nothing other than that we must continue to celebrate Pride for the next three days until this wonderful month is over.
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