California's Cash for Ballots Fraud Exposed + AMA 259
Charlie Kirk and guests expose California's alleged ballot fraud where petitioners paid homeless addicts for signatures, while criticizing Senate Republicans for defunding ICE. They debate Iran war aims, noting Gen Z skepticism over unfulfilled campaign promises compared to the Venezuela strike. The discussion proposes tying student loan restructuring to immigration reform to secure youth votes and advocates for federal accountability in tuition inflation. Ultimately, the episode argues that conservative strategies must address economic concerns and clarify foreign policy rationales to counteract left-wing influence and mobilize the next generation. [Automatically generated summary]
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All right, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show, March 27, 2026.
It was great having Molly Hemingway, Sean Davis, and Megan Basham all in studio yesterday.
That was great.
It was just moved them here permanently.
I totally agree.
But if you missed those episodes, check them out on the podcast.
Absolutely do that.
We'll have some news a little later on the podcast as well.
Listen, we woke up this morning to a dead of night passage of a partial DHS funding bill.
This is according to Representative Keith Self, good dude.
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In the dead of night, with only five senators present on the floor and no one there to object, the Senate rushed through a DHS funding bill that deliberately left ICE and CBP unfunded.
Now they are leaving town.
No Save America Act.
ICE, CBP unfunded.
Senate Republicans just gave the Democrats everything they wanted and more.
That's coming again from Keith Self.
Greg Stuby says, of course, Leader Thune and the Senate Rhinos caved to Democrats who refused to fund ICE and CBP.
The American people gave us the House, the Senate, and the White House, and we still can't pass a bill to fund all of DHS.
So pretty disappointing result last night.
I'm not sure if it's a good idea.
It's like failure theater to me.
It's failure theater.
And by the way, there was all this talk about staying through the Easter recess, never getting this done.
No, they've all left.
Well, here's the only problem.
House Republicans, it seems like, are signaling to Senate Republicans, you better get a return ticket.
Better come back to D.C. because I don't think that they are going to fund this.
I don't think they're going to pass this bill.
So the only way that it passes, which is a possibility, is if a bunch of Democrats get on board with it.
So we're going to see how this plays out.
But exactly my thought.
Failure theater.
Once again, we have weak leadership in the Senate.
You know, I do want to give some sort of grace to the good guys in the Senate because when you have 53 votes, that may seem like a lot.
It's not a lot because of the darn filibuster.
And all it takes is three squishy people.
And it's a frustration.
I'm not even going to say because of the filibuster.
The filibuster exists to protect the majority from votes it doesn't want to take.
I agree.
That is why it exists.
The filibuster, the primary beneficiary of the filibuster are people like Mitch McConnell, people like John Thune, who want a ready-made excuse for why they haven't delivered on anything their party has run on and promised in 20 years.
Because we've been getting promises of serious immigration reform for 20 years.
We've been getting promises on all manner of things, election reforms, all of that.
And then they just go, oh, well, you know, unfortunately, we just can't pass this until you give us, really, we're going to probably need like 64 votes because, you know, you lose a Republican here and there.
Well, we're never going to get 64 senators.
It's not the 1930s.
Yeah.
And I mean, you want to depress turnout for the midterms.
This is exactly how you do it.
I'm telling you, this is a five-alarm fire for anybody who will listen.
Whether that's in the admin, leadership, you are depressing turnout.
You've got Joe Rogan calling you a bunch of dorks.
Enthusiasm waning.
You've got an Iran situation where you've got reports now from Axios that we're preparing potentially up to 10,000 more troops to send into the Middle East.
If you are not going to deliver on domestic policy promises that you ran on, that people voted for you on, you are going to lose those voters.
It is that simple.
So Senate Republicans, pass the Save America Act, do whatever it takes.
You are destroying the chances of Republicans in the midterms.
You're absolutely destroying the chances.
And why not?
If we're going to do all the work to send you to Washington to get simple things done, common sense legislation done, and you cannot find a way, and all you do is raise excuse after excuse, then don't be surprised when people don't show up for you.
Don't be surprised when the people online that used to cheer you on and get out the vote for you get so frustrated that they don't want to do it anymore.
We are at that point where it's going to be impossible to make the case for you if you don't get certain basic things done.
And you're leaving people like us on this show completely holding the bag.
So I encourage House Republicans, deny, reject this awful deal, get back to work, do whatever it takes.
I don't care if you can't sleep for a month and a half.
That's your job.
And if you don't do it, you're dooming everybody.
You're dooming the country.
You're dooming Western civilization.
Because not only are the Republicans the last bastion of anything sensible and good potentially in America, the conservative movement in the United States is the last bastion of hope and freedom for the entire Western civilization.
The stakes could literally not be higher.
I don't know.
Can you make the case?
Can you make the case to send these guys back when they can't even get away from the people?
Well, I mean, in general, a frustrating thing with politics is you think of, I like to make the comparison to professional sports because it's something Americans actually care about.
And when you have a NFL team and it's during the season, like how hard is your team expected to work?
They're expected to practice pretty intensely.
They're expected to take it for Alan Iverson.
Pretty seriously.
Yeah, and if you don't, you tend to like wash out on your team.
And I just feel like the stakes for the country are pretty high.
And it would make a lot of sense to have lawmakers be pretty committed to being there all the time and getting things done.
And if you don't want to do it, we can replace you with a lawmaker who will do that.
And instead, we just have these barnacles on the American body politic.
They have basically allowed Congress to become this inert entity that never passes anything useful and repeatedly disappoints.
I think the question I'm asking and everyone asking is, wait, I thought the entire justification for the one big beautiful bill last summer was, oh, it has this unprecedented funding for ICE and border security.
And then actually six months later, Democrats in the minority can just kind of make you reverse tack on that.
And also, I would be remiss if I didn't mention that a lot of the guys who are stampeding towards giving the Democrats everything they want on this are also the same ones who are the source of so much of our other political difficulties.
They're the ones who are the most avid that, oh, we need boots on the ground in Iran.
We need to have maximal intervention there.
Well, whether that's a good idea or not, it's pretty clear that's going to be a politically difficult sell in the midterms.
And so you're stacking all these things on top of each other.
And what do they have to offer?
Basically, just that Democrats are evil and bad, which they are.
But people are going to vote for them if you are not offering a good alternative.
If you want to depress turnout in the midterms, keep doing the same thing.
Keep doing the exact same thing that you're doing right now.
Because right now, I'm looking at a situation where we have chapter presidents and they're tabling all over the country and they can't defend these actions.
They're getting approached by liberals that are calling out the hypocrisy of this garbage.
And guess what?
There's some truth to it.
Make it so that we have something to argue that actually holds weight.
Make it so that we have something to defend that actually is worth defending.
Because right now we're just getting failure theater.
We're getting no results.
We're getting nothing that makes sense.
Nothing at all.
So go back.
Go to work.
Go back to DC.
Show us you care.
Exhaust yourself on the floor.
Faint in the middle of the floor and at the middle of the speech because you've been doing it so long.
I don't care.
Do something.
Do something that we can defend.
Right now it's like Mike Lee and Eric Schmidt, and that's what we got.
So let's hit this, Blake.
We're not getting our domestic agenda passed.
And on top of that, it seems like, you know, we're marching into potential of boots on the ground.
Okay.
I want to get your thoughts on this in the audience.
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Blake's going to break down what the newest news is.
And I want to hear your thoughts.
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We have obviously been, whatever, we're about a month in, maybe a little less.
And now we've got the 82nd Airborne mobilized, probably already there.
We've got some Marines being mobilized.
Now, Axios has a new report of up to 10,000 troops being mobilized.
10,000 additional troops.
All right, he's going to break it down.
I want to hear your thoughts.
Yeah, well, it's just, it's all, again, this is one of the toughest conflicts to cover because President Trump has an unusual negotiating style.
So he's constantly signaling he might escalate.
He might de-escalate.
Iran is difficult to read because a lot of their leaders are dead.
They're often, you know, running a double game.
And on top of that, you just have, you have different media operations.
It's very clear, for example, that Israel is more hawkish overall than President Trump is.
And so they want to egg him on to extend the war, escalate the war.
Others are trying to.
So there's all sorts of maneuvers going on.
And the truth is, we don't know exactly what the plan is.
But it does seem like, to be frank, we are taking steps towards a course of action that we warned about the very day that the first strike started in Bombay.
It was a Saturday and we talked about it here, which is at that time, it was a purely aerial campaign.
And we said we have to worry about whether you start getting into this pattern of steady step-by-step escalation where they say if you send in a few of these troops and take a few of these places, that's going to resolve it.
So now we're, it's almost everyone's talking, oh, they might take Carg Island, they might take these other islands.
But see, this is exactly how this happens.
Yes.
This is how you're the history buff here.
Do you see parallels?
And I'm not saying there are, but let's just, and I think this is a completely different situation.
I'm not saying what I'm about to say.
I'm just drawing a slight parallel.
Vietnam.
Vietnam.
It started with a few advisors.
And a few.
And a few.
And then it was eventually, I think we peaked at about 800,000 soldiers.
Yeah.
And there was a draft.
It was.
We're not getting close to that.
But even to pick a more comparable one, Afghanistan.
Afghanistan started with no U.S. troops involved other than a handful of special forces.
They helped the Northern Alliance overthrow the Taliban.
It was basically air power and a few special forces, guys.
And then after that happened, this was 2001, 2002, we have that George W. Bush era.
Well, we have this obligation towards nation building.
So we start sending a few thousand soldiers.
Taliban's not defeated.
We're training them.
We're building schools.
And then by the time you get to Obama, they're selling this idea: well, we need a troop surge in Afghanistan.
And if we do a troop surge, that'll be able to get it in order.
Yeah, like we did in Iraq.
And it actually worked better in Iraq because it at least had a much more clear objective.
And, you know, it's a more urban society.
But in Afghanistan, they just kind of threw money at the problem, threw troops at the problem, but they didn't fix the fundamental issue of how do we define what's our objective?
What does victory actually look like?
How do we get there?
It was just sort of have troops there, get in fights with the Taliban, and hope it works out.
And what we have to worry about is there certainly are factions within our own government that would just love to see an Iraq-style conflict with Iran.
They won't say that, but they'd love to see it.
And what they'll sell to people is this line of, oh, you know, yeah, if you send a few troops here, that's going to make the regime collapse.
And when it doesn't, they'll, you know, it's like a heroin dealer.
And they'll say, one you're already populated, so you might as well see it all the way through.
So just do a little bit more.
And then just, oh, we're almost there.
We promise.
Just if you could add this little element here.
And this is why regime change in the Middle East is so fraught.
And I get it.
They want the people to rise up.
They want the marching in the streets.
I think that was kind of one of these indicators that helped lead to this escalation.
And I want to just give President Trump his due here.
He has not shown any indication through past operations to be into the idea of a long-drawn out quagmire.
He's not that kind of president.
We're getting indications earlier in the week that there was positivity, that this was going to be wrapping up soon.
But now we're getting indications it could be 10,000 more combat troops in the Middle East.
And we have this report from Reuters, exclusive.
Now it's Reuters, so take it with a grain of salt.
But I've been hearing similar things, so it's fascinating.
U.S. can only confirm about a third of Iran's missile arsenal is destroyed, sources say.
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Well, that's problematic.
Now, maybe the answer to that is that the military has taken out a bunch of their ability to shoot said missiles.
So, okay.
So maybe that's a good thing.
The point is, I've been hearing similar rumors that there is stockpile left over that we don't know about.
All of this to say, we are creating the conditions where you got apparently gas in Los Angeles is over $8 a gallon.
Now, Los Angeles does some of this harm to themselves.
But what is it, like five in Phoenix right now?
It's about five bucks.
And yeah, there's places where it's higher, places where it's lower.
That's going to just be a drag.
If you want to hear about low numbers with Hispanics, that's going to be one of them.
All right.
That's going to be one of the driving factors here.
A year ago, if you wanted to lay out a situation for electoral disaster for the Republican Party, it would include open-ended, expensive war in the Middle East.
With few or little focus, ostensibly.
Now, there is things happening behind the scenes.
We're not trying to blackpill here.
There's a lot of good that has been done, but we're not talking about it enough because we've got a war in Iran, and now we might be sending ground troops.
The exact thing that we sort of promised the country was not going to happen under President Trump.
What's so sad is we actually genuinely have a lot to be proud of, domestic.
Totally.
In fact, constant new stuff.
It's like Texas has Texas isn't giving licenses to illegals.
We just denaturalizing.
We just denaturalized a couple of criminals and we're working on it.
We're denaturalizing citizens.
We're sending ICE agents to break up these companies that only employ illegals.
We've done great stuff on the border.
We're suing medical schools for fraud too much APIs.
They're actually doing tons of great stuff.
We're not going to be able to do that.
The focus will be on that if the focus is not overseas.
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Jonathan Cho is an absolute legend.
We love this guy.
He does great work out in the field and doing work for Turning Point USA, TPSA Frontlines reporter.
He's been working with Cam Higbee and a lot of others exposing fraud in California.
Jonathan Cho, you can find him at the Cho Show on X.
I recommend you follow this guy.
He's doing, like I said, amazing work.
Welcome to the show.
Hey, guys.
How are you doing?
Doing great.
So you have been doing some investigative journalism, the real stuff, out in California.
Why don't you set the stage for us?
And we got a bunch of clips here.
Yeah, well, this has now been going on for two weeks.
It's a joint investigation with multiple independent journalists, including James O'Keefe, our own Savannah Hernandez, Brandon Dre, as well as muckrackers Anthony Rubin and Cam Higbee, as you mentioned.
And we've been essentially doing a swarm on LA's Skid Row.
This is a human dumping ground, homeless drug addicts.
And what we've essentially uncovered is that ballot petition gatherers are now paying these people on the streets for their signatures for all kinds of what we believe is voter fraud.
So let's go ahead and play one of these clips that you have provided, Cho, just because I think it's shocking when you see it actually play out.
I mean, this is real evidence.
SOT 10.
Registering people to vote in exchange for money.
Cam Higby and I went undercover and witnessed multiple instances of ballot initiative workers.
I want to get five bucks.
I heard I can get five bucks for paying cash to homeless drug addicts for their signatures.
A felony-level crime according to California law.
Every single homeless person on Skid Row that we asked is aware that this is happening.
But this guy took it to another level.
Are you registered to vote?
No.
He wanted us to sign these initiatives using other people's names and home addresses.
My name's John.
Don't you put that name?
Which is identity fraud.
Another felony.
Is this right, brother?
When I showed hesitation, listen to what he had to say.
Walk us through what was happening there, Jonathan Cho.
So as you can tell, Cam and I were essentially hanging around the corner of San Pedro and 7th and Skid Row.
And we see a group of guys with clipboards.
And on those clipboards are the ballot initiatives.
And they were intentionally targeting homeless drug addicts.
We walked up to them and out of nowhere, they say, hey, do you want to sign?
And, you know, I say, sure.
They asked me if I'm registered to vote because that's bare minimum requirement.
Clearly, I say no, but it didn't matter.
Instead, I proceed to try and sign my actual name.
I say, my name's John.
And they're like, no, no, no, no.
We don't want you to sign John.
And then he asked me, do you have a conscience?
Essentially, do you have a conscience?
What was happening was that not only were they having me sign this ballot initiative for money, they were having me sign under someone else's name.
So not only are the homeless drug addicts the victims here, there are actual victims of identity fraud.
So then you actually interviewed, it looks like a whistleblower that knows something about this, SAT9.
How do you decide whether somebody uses their name or somebody else's name?
Well, I asked some questions like, when are you registering to vote?
And if they remember something, like, okay, then I've like, I just let them go.
You know what I mean?
I let them sign.
But if they don't remember, are they from out of state?
The gang banger guys, they'll give us, you know, a list of names.
I'm not a list, but they write on a piece of paper or whatever.
And I just gave it some, you know.
So when they pull the people's names?
They get it from the registration office.
They pay a lot of money from the registration office directly.
Like the state?
Yeah.
Wow, really?
Yeah.
The registration office is corrupt as hell, but it's legal.
And so they can just pull, is it like a voter registration or a VMV or something?
Yeah, no, it's a voter registration office.
Oh, they get it right from the front.
Right straight from now.
Bro, this is crazy.
Like the level of organization and coordination, the fact that this is so many people seem to know about it.
We're just now finding out this is a thing.
Yeah, so many things going on over there in that whistleblower interview.
First of all, these bad actors are using the danger and risk of going into Skid Row as cover.
They know city and state officials aren't going to go in.
There's barely any law enforcement.
So again, they've been operating with total impunity.
So this has not been going on for just the last two weeks.
It's been going on for years, according to people on the ground.
That whistleblower was also alleging that there are Democrats involved in this, along with gangbangers.
I'm talking about local LA gangbangers.
And this is where it got really murky and sensitive.
He didn't want to name anything, any of the actual gangs or the people behind it, because he was afraid for his own safety and life.
He took an enormous risk talking to us.
At the same time, he's one of the few now that are starting to flip because he's had a crisis of conscience.
Because once we got the footage of all of this undercover signature gathering happening, you know, cash for ballots, he kind of started to realize he's in big trouble.
He's either going to get outed one way or the other.
So he might as well talk right now.
So he's led us, you know, to a lot of evidence.
We have a lot of this on camera.
So it's now really up to local officials and state officials, Governor Gavin Newsom, Attorney General Rob Bonta, to finally take action.
And they've said they've started an investigation, but we don't have any timelines for arrests or charges now.
Well, I think that that's a pattern we've seen over and over.
You can produce a lot of evidence.
And as long as it's in the state's hands, they can say, oh, it's under investigation.
And then you can just play it out, draw it out, and eventually nothing happens.
I mean, it's California.
They're professionals at this.
I can't, I'll be blunt.
I can't imagine that a system that organized with that many people in on it exists without them having pretty high confidence.
No one's ever going to do anything about it.
It's just like the hospice fraud that's happening a few miles to the north of Skid Row, where when you have 70 fraudulent hospices in a single building, they are operating with the assumption the state knows what we're doing and they don't care.
Yeah, that line total impunity stands out, Cho, because it just feels like the problems in this state are so huge and it's so vast and there's so many people corrupt and corrupted within the system that nobody's going to be held accountable is what it feels like.
Yeah, Blake Andrew, that's what we're concerned about.
This one-party rule controlling every aspect of this investigation.
And again, this has now been going on for two weeks.
James O'Keefe's crew and the rest of the independent journalists, we're calling ourselves the Citizen Justice League.
We're going to put out a video, a story every single day until someone gets arrested and we see charges.
But that's the concern right now.
How long is it going to take to actually bring somebody to account, even after presenting all of this evidence?
We got more footage here, so I want to play it.
This is a California Democrat lawmaker.
Let me just play the clip.
I don't know who's saying it.
11.
Our team immediately notified authorities, including Governor Gavin Newsom and Attorney General Rob Bonto.
They do not have that authority.
They responded by saying this would be investigated.
These people are just continuing the cycle of harm and suffering on these people so they can manipulate them for political gain.
Yeah, and that stands out.
That's sort of been what I've been thinking this whole time is they're taking advantage of drug addicts, the mentally ill, the homeless, the impoverished, the desperate, and they're just using them in pawns in this sort of, like you said, one-party rule state to further entrench their own power.
So this is the big rub, right?
That you're asking California Democrats to investigate something that's not in their best interest to snuff out.
Yeah, this is happening.
And I don't know if you guys have personally been to Skid Row.
You guys have seen the images for years now.
Yeah, it's guys.
Then you know it's the entire area, again, as I refer to it as a human dumping ground.
It's also where all of the social service agencies, nonprofits funded by taxpayers are concentrated and based.
So all of this is happening right there.
And these nonprofits, what I call and refer to as Homeless Inc., they allegedly are supposed to be there to take care of these vulnerable men and women.
But my question is, how have they allowed this to go on for so many years now without sounding the alarm?
So it's not just the lawmakers here who need to be held to account or law enforcement, but we've got to be asking questions about the others in the area who I believe are in on this grift.
Oh, absolutely.
And I think you zoom out to the bigger picture.
We get a lot of emails from people asking, you know, can we save California?
And we would love if California could be saved.
But you really have to appreciate kind of the scale of the atrocity that they have enacted, which is to have, they have a blob of thousands, tens of thousands of people who are basically impossible to track, which they can use as a vote bank, as a fraud depository.
You know, you can dump $40 billion in homeless funding on them and it'll show no impact whatsoever.
Somebody's getting that money.
And they just have built this like perfect machine.
Meanwhile, if you check other headlines, I think they've stopped repaving roads in Los Angeles because that was proving too expensive.
You know, they'll dump $100 billion in that high-speed rail and that's never going to get built.
There's something really dark about it.
And I feel like it'll never get fixed unless the federal government were able to find a nice, sustained way to imprison a very large number of people there.
And I don't even know if this admin has the idea.
It's like $40 billion.
It's like however many billions that have been dumped into this homeless crisis, and it just persists.
It doesn't seem like there's any will to actually clean it up, remove them forcibly off the streets so that you can't be taking advantage of them like this, so that they don't live in squalor.
Do you see any indications, Jonathan Cho?
I mean, away from the fraud with the ballots and the cash rebouts, that people are actually being helped down there.
Yeah, look, the only saving grace here, quite frankly, is I think we've lost all faith in California officials, but the feds are aware, and so is the Trump administration.
And I've also talked to my sources at the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development.
They're the ones funding these homeless nonprofits, and they're scrutinizing, again, the money now.
It's all about the money trail.
Once that stops flowing into this area, I believe a lot of this fraud could stop as well.
That's encouraging.
Yeah, and Scott Turner's a great guy.
He's a fantastic man.
Jonathan Cho, TPOSA Frontlines, great job.
I'm excited to see this coalition of these journalists coming together.
And I know you guys have plans to do this repeatedly throughout the year.
So keep up the great work.
Jonathan Cho, TPOSA Frontlines.
Check him out on X at Cho Show, which is a great handle.
Thanks, Jonathan.
We'll talk to you soon.
Thanks for amplifying this, guys.
Take care.
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There's a new clip that I just saw from Marco Ruby that I want to get to.
And I see some House leadership slamming the Senate GOP on that DHS video.
So we're going to get to all of this.
But first, let's start with Sat 7.
And I want to get into this.
It's Joe Rogan.
And he doesn't mince his words here, Blake.
Sat 7.
The phrase, make America great again?
I don't care.
But that phrase sucks.
Here's the thing.
Like, first of all, America is great.
Make America greater?
I'm down.
But make America great again, and then it becomes a movement of a bunch of dorks because a lot of them are dorks.
A lot of them, these really weird, uninteresting, unintelligent people that have got something they cling to.
And there's a lot of people that are just real genuine patriots.
And they're all lumped into this one group.
And you got to accept the dorks too.
That.
Blake.
I mean, it's it was always possible that would happen.
President Trump built a very eclectic coalition to win in 2024, but it was not a coalition that really existed in the past.
This collision of podcast bros and crypto bros, crypto bros, tech bros, liberal.
Yeah, the tech, the tech right, the conventional conservatives, Christian right, some people coming in from racial groups that normally didn't join.
And a lot of them were getting on board with different problem, you know, for various promises that were made.
And if not all of those are delivered on, it's going to fracture apart.
And also, some of it's just going to be a reversion to the mean.
Joe Rogan was this Obama bro, Bernie bro years ago.
There's going to be some reversion to the mean.
These guys, it's a type of person who very quickly gets disillusioned with people or movements and attaches to the new system.
They will abandon you.
I mean, this is actually a really important point.
And we used to be way more heightened about this, by the way.
It's great to have his support when he has it, but he will, like, he's got no affiliation.
He's got no long loyalties.
He's got no devotion to this broader project, this broader movement.
And so, like, on the one hand, I'm not at all surprised.
But I think it is important to watch his evolution from, you know, actually endorsing President Trump in 2024, which he did it late, but listen, he did it.
It was noteworthy, to basically calling everybody a bunch of dorks.
Yeah.
And, you know, this is where I go back to our first segment.
If the Senate is not going to pass common sense stuff, if they're not going to fight, they're not going to fight as hard as unpaid activists in their local communities, then listen, man.
You're not giving us anything to defend this with.
Pass the Save America Act, pass DHS funding, or, you know, fight to the absolute brutal end to make sure it happens.
You're not giving the base anything to get up for.
And that's a problem.
And then you pile on top of everything this war in Iran.
Now, there's a clip from Rubio that just broke, so I want to play it.
And I think it's a good sign.
So I want to play it here.
SOT 16.
Just being sent to the Middle Eastern.
What role could they serve other than preparing the way for a potential Browns invasion?
And while you speak about several weeks, are you concerned that this could embroil the U.S. in the kind of prolonged conflict that President Trump came to office promising to avoid?
This is not going to be a prolonged conflict.
The objectives I've outlined to you, again, I repeat them because I see these reports.
It's like, are the users not clear on what objectives are?
We've been as clear as you can possibly be from the very first night of what the objectives of this mission are.
We're going to destroy their factories that make missiles and rockets and drones.
We're going to destroy their Navy.
We're going to destroy their Air Force.
And we are going to significantly destroy their missile launchers so they can never hide behind these things to get a nuclear weapon.
We can achieve, we are achieving all those objectives.
We are ahead of schedule on most of them.
So he says this is not going to be a prolonged conflict.
I think that's promising.
Yeah.
I think that's promising.
I'll take it.
And so we're holding them to that.
And again, I want to reiterate: President Trump has never given us any indication from past conflicts that he's at all interested in a prolonged quagmire forever war.
As a matter of fact, he was the original critic of the way that the neocons in the Bush era conducted these types of conflicts.
And so, like, listen, President Trump's earned a lot of trust, but we've lost trust can be lost.
And so, again, we're kind of doing a quick wrap-up of all the main stories here.
This is a Tom Emmer and Mike Johnson, whip Tom Emmer, are absolutely lambasting the Senate GOP for what they did last night.
SAT 17.
Well, actually, I'll start out with our speaker is very unhappy.
I'm not happy.
Our whole leadership group, what the Senate did was, frankly, not right.
We are going to make sure that border is funded.
This is about making sure that President Trump's number one promise was that the border was going to be secure.
He's accomplished with Republican leadership incredible things with the southern border.
It has never been as tight as it is right now.
But we are not going to allow these radical, anarchist, Marxist, socialist Democrats to literally stop or create an open border situation again like we experienced under Joe Biden and Kamala Harris.
And we're going to make sure that we continue to deport criminal, illegal aliens.
This is what Americans want.
Well, good for the House GOP.
I like to see them having some fight when the Senate is abdicating.
So that's a good sign.
And let's end this hour, Blake, on a clip from Charlie.
And sometimes, you know, even we need to hear it as well.
And this is CK saying kind of what I'm saying.
Obviously, he'll say it better about how Trump has earned some trust.
So let's focus on this and we'll get through it together.
SAD 18.
As I've said once, and I'll say again, President Trump has beyond earned our trust on all foreign affair issues.
He took out Solomoni.
He took out ISIS.
He has bombed the Houthis.
President Donald Trump has been a leader who is willing to use American military might where necessary, but not for prolonged conflicts.
He's not a nation builder guy.
He's not a let's change the population sentiment guy.
There's only one nation that Donald Trump wants to build, and that is America.
He wants to rebuild this country with infrastructure, a border, rising wages to get rid of inflation, mass deportations.
President Donald Trump is focused on pouring money back into America.
He's focused like a laser beam on that.
And President Trump has earned our trust on all things foreign affairs.
He's earned our trust.
And this is definitely the biggest test of that trust.
But if he can successfully navigate this to a conclusion, that will be the best vindication of that trust.
And this is, as you said, the biggest test.
The biggest test by far.
We're not trying to mislead the audience here.
Politics is not super difficult in the end.
It is deliver on your promises that you made to your voters and people.
And got you into office.
Get back to what you ran on and deliver on those things, and Republicans will be in a stronger position.
That's the lesson of this hour.
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Welcome.
Thanks for having me on.
Yep.
So it's our ask us anything hour.
So you get to be a part of the show.
Send us your thoughts, your questions, your concerns, all of the things.
But I want to read an email.
We asked you guys for your thoughts.
And we got one from somebody who is, I think, a really thoughtful email.
It says, as a MAGA voter and someone who voted for Trump three times, it's very disappointing to hear troops are heading to the Middle East.
It's hard not to think we're headed to a Bush 41 lie of read my lips.
My husband and I have three sons, two of draft age, one more to be in a year.
We have nephews of draft age.
I don't want to see one foot of an American soldier on their soil.
It breaks my heart to see families already having to welcome home their dead soldier in a flag-draped casket.
No Americans should be dying.
Trump is losing support on this.
We in the lower middle class have never yet felt the relief that he brags about time after time.
Low-info voters will remember this in November.
Trump needs to come down with a hammer on all the weak rhinos, U.S. oil companies price gouging us.
He needs to take this as seriously as he did the border, or he'll lose the Republican Party.
I saw a great post on X that just said there's policies, there are policies you can do that will have a damaging effect on the economy.
And the obvious one you could have done was real mass deportations would hurt the economy.
We've seen a ton of businesses, in the short run, of course, a ton of businesses have gotten so addicted to illegal labor, low-wage immigrant labor, that it is massively disruptive to pluck those people out from them.
And it would take them a while to adapt.
That would have an economic consequence, but the long-term benefit would be great.
And I think a lot of people are frustrated that we might get a similar level of economic disruption.
Maybe more.
Yeah, from a conflict that he didn't run on fighting, and no one was particularly excited for him to fight.
And that even right after it begins, you're stuck trying to win people over to it rather than getting the usual rally around the flag effect.
Every other war we've fought in my lifetime, certainly, Iraq, Afghanistan, you know, the involvements we had in Yugoslavia, and then fire wars, going way further back.
You know, yeah, Venezuela is similar, going way further back, Vietnam, Korea, World War II, World War I. Every war starts with a big surge of popular enthusiasm.
They're patriotic, rally behind the flag.
Our country's been wrong.
Let's go win.
And then if it's going badly, it depletes from there.
Or you just win and, you know, that never happened.
We even saw this in Ukraine, Candace, when we started funding Ukraine.
Yeah, Ukraine started off with, I think, 92% support for U.S. backing them, and then it declined from there.
Charlie was very lonely in thinking it was a bad idea to get involved, but now it's a much more 50-50 issue.
This is a rare conflict where it's starting as maybe 50-50, probably less.
And the only way you can win people over is to win it quickly and prove that it was a good idea and not expensive.
Correct.
If it drags on, it's going to be a very big anchor around the administration.
And we don't say that to be black pillars.
We don't say that to be doomers.
We say that because we care about success.
We want to win.
And there are people who are going to just sell this Saccharine narrative.
Everything's great.
Don't worry about it.
All the polls, their lies.
That is why we talk to young people.
That is why we ask for the emails.
You know, probably the thing in this email that you should be most concerned about is this line.
We in the lower middle class have never felt yet the relief he brags about time after time.
And to Blake's point, if you were going to take a big shot, if you were going to do something bold that you knew was going to be disruptive, why couldn't it have been just massively going after illegal aliens that are employed, right?
By the way, this is what's so interesting about the Cesar Chavez stuff.
We talked about this, I think, on Thought Crime.
You know, he's lifted up as this, you know, left-wing hero.
The truth is, Cesar Chavez, well, beyond being a pedophile and a rapist, which are obviously these are new revelations, but he would go through the state of California and his goons would literally beat up illegal immigrants.
You know why?
Because he thought that they lowered the wages of his union workers.
They lowered the wages of American workers.
So, you know, that was a disruptive thing.
We've known that business interests want their cheap labor.
Well, too bad you can't have it anymore.
Too bad that's going to be disruptive for the economy.
Too bad that's going to be disruptive for your business.
The long-term benefit outweighs the cost.
The American people voted for that kind of thing.
So if you're going to take a big swing, do it on the thing that's actually popular.
Reforming Higher Ed00:11:22
Do it on the thing that we could defend.
Yeah.
And we just, again, we say this.
Danny, you're the youngest one here.
You talk to young people the most.
You talk to our chapters.
Yeah, I'm telling you guys right now to all the boomers out there.
Not just boomers.
No disrespect.
It's the biggest disconnect is what the thing is.
There's full at different ends of the spectrum right now, especially on the war.
And there's a storm coming where they're just not going to vote.
They feel like no matter what party is involved, it doesn't matter.
We want to be clear.
There's a difference here.
This does not mean that the war itself is bad.
It does not mean that the war itself is unjustified.
But what we are warning is, regardless of whether the war is justified or not, whether it's a good idea or not, whether it's necessary or not, the war with the people who took President Trump over the hump in 24, it is unpopular with those marginal new members of the Trump coalition.
And a lot of them are leaving the coalition over that, are feeling discouraged over that.
And we have to recognize that, or we're going to walk into a political disaster.
You have to approach all political questions with clear eyes like that.
It's something Charlie always emphasized and was very good at.
Well, here's where it really becomes a red flag for me.
And I know we haven't taken any calls yet, and I'm sorry.
This email I thought was really thoughtful.
Our chapter leaders, we had Gabe Saint on from Wyoming, and he said something that I have not stopped thinking about since he came on the show.
And he said, when we're tabling, whether we're getting confronted from other conservatives or libs on campus about these items, they can't defend them.
And we are left in a position of, we are in limbo.
Listen, we love President Trump.
President Trump has done a great job on many fronts.
He started this rebellion against foreign adventurism.
He gets all the credit in the world for that.
He's not gotten us into forever wars and quagmires.
And so we're basically left in a position where we're just trusting that that's going to be the case here too, while also acknowledging Iran is the biggest challenge yet.
The ground troops is going to be the biggest challenge yet if those end up happening.
I don't know how to defend that because we didn't run on it.
I don't have a defense for it.
I don't know what to tell our kids at these chapters that are left to sort of make excuses for a policy action that nobody voted for.
So you got to give us something.
That's all I'm saying.
And to Danny's point, Danny's, you're young 20s.
He's talking to a lot of these kids, and they don't know what to say.
So when you have that type of dynamic emerging, give us something.
Explain something.
Have JD Vance go out on the podcast tour and defend this.
Have Marco Rubio go on the podcast tour and defend this.
Explain what's going on here because we're just all left to kind of hope and pray.
I mean, Danny, am I misrepresenting this?
No, no, not at all.
They're just, they're struggling to back any of what's going on right now, and they're looking for an answer.
And right now, they're not being given anything.
So something needs to change.
So we do this out of love because we want to see the coalition healthy.
We want to see people be able to defend what the administration is doing.
And we want to be successful in the midterms.
Democrats are unacceptable.
That has not even changed.
I saw that from Megan Kelly.
She's been a very big loud critic.
She was even saying, you got to vote Republican.
There's no other option.
But golly, man, you know, give us something.
Fight for the Save America.
Elizabeth, please unmute yourself and welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.
Thanks for being a member.
Hi, Annie.
Hi, Angie.
Hi, Blake.
Hi, Danny.
How are you today?
Doing great.
How are you?
I'm well, thank you.
So I had an idea that I would hope would bring the youth vote back and also get us everything that we want.
With student loans, I didn't realize like the interest goes on forever and like you can make payments, it doesn't really affect the balance.
So I thought if Congress passed a bill where, for example, you took out $100,000 in loans, after you've paid $120,000 back, you're paid off.
Done.
And they can make it retroactive.
So it's not student loan forgiveness.
It's just that you never have to pay back more than 20% of what you've actually borrowed.
And we tie this to everything we've ever wanted.
Immigration reform, border funding, ICE funding, all of those executive orders from President Trump all tied in to this one option of we restructure the financing and make it retroactive for student loans.
And also it would bring in a youth vote, I would think.
And also it would help with like family information and buying homes.
What do you guys think of that?
Go ahead, Blake.
Well, so some of this does at least exist for some cases.
I don't know exactly what cases it exists for, but there is, for example, the pay-as-you-earn plan for federal student loans.
I think that's 20 years of on-time payments.
And it's like 10% of your discretionary income, which that means it excludes taxes and certain other things.
Healthcare.
Yeah.
And if you pay in consistently over that for 20 years, you can get loans forgiven.
So some of that does exist.
I do agree with you.
I would say your specific deal, the thing it would run into is you'd still probably need Democrats on board with it.
And Democrats, okay, they'll just never embrace immigration reform.
They are truly religiously fanatical.
But I doubt foreign criminals should come into the world.
But I do love what you're thinking about here, Elizabeth, because you're saying, what is the bone that we can throw to the Democrats?
Get everything we want.
They get something ostensibly that they want.
And therefore, if they're going to reject it, if they're going to block it, then they have to go on record blocking something that young people really like.
I love the creativity, and I'm going to think about it more.
But to Blake's point, I don't know that this is the silver bullet that we need, but it's creative.
And so I like the strategy.
And maybe there's a way to work something like this where they get something that they want, we get to claim credit for it, and we get a lot of things we want.
The big strategic picture to acknowledge, which you are correct to see, is that student loans are a huge problem in America, just the number of people who are on them, the scale of them.
They're a big problem in America.
And they are a wedge that the left uses to bring in young people.
That young people take on a ton of debt to go to school.
And it's a very imposing thing.
And it makes them very sympathetic towards this socialist nonsense that gets fed to them by huckster candidates like Zorhan Mamdani, AOC, and so on.
And we want to find ways to break that hold.
The other reason we'd want to break the student loan cartel, if you will, is this is what a big part of what's enriching colleges, which are basically left-wing organizations.
It's their giant reserve of jobs for left-wingers, spending for left-wingers, institutional power for the left.
And so we do want to find a way to change the way student loans work.
Well, the federal government broke student loans when they got involved in them, right?
So we work with YReFi that handles private student loans.
Well, a lot of the loans are now federal, right?
Which the College Cabal took as a blank check to just keep inflating tuition prices, building fancy buildings, stadiums.
Every year they would hike the max for how much you could take on.
The Trump administration, one of the accomplishments they've done quietly is they've stopped automatically increasing how much in loans you can take out.
And lo and behold, a bunch of schools are no longer hiking their tuition automatically.
Because it was a blank check.
It was a blank check for the college cabal.
And guess what we're doing when we do that?
You're empowering the very institutions that hate you and that are undermining the country.
So we need to stop doing that.
But I think in general, private student loans make a whole lot more sense than federal, and I'll explain why.
Private student loans, if you're a private entity, you have actual skin in the game that you have to make sure you get your money back.
Because why give a loan out if you're not going to get paid back?
That's the whole point of a loan is you make it back with interest and you make a profit on it.
If you are giving loans out for somebody that is not a good candidate to have a loan, that they're not going to make that money back, they're not going to be able to repay you, then you're not going to give that loan out.
That would have a forcing function effect across the college cabal to make sure that their degrees are worth it, that students are actually getting jobs on the other side of their degree process, that they get into a marketplace and they can actually make money.
And it would sort of weed out the terrible degrees.
Only the people with rich parents could afford the underwater basketball.
Yeah, I think in general, a big problem, a big source of problems for student loans is that they are basically anyone can claim an entitlement to them, whether they're studying anything useful, whether they are likely to be able to pay them off, whether the school they are going to is particularly good.
Basically, we have some standards for for-profit institutions, but for nonprofit institutions, there's very little expectation that a program be worth it.
And think about it.
But look, no, sorry.
So the whole thing is built.
Who is the biggest beneficiary?
The permanent beneficiary is always the colleges.
It's always their administrators, their staff.
The primary beneficiary is not aimed at being students.
And I think big reforms you'd want.
Yeah, some of that could be a pack on how much you have, a cap on how much you have to repay.
But the best reforms of all are we shouldn't give student loans unless there is a reasonable expectation this loan will be worth it.
And the other reform I'm a big fan of is we should shift towards a system where colleges are on the hook if a person who attends them on loans is unable to repay it.
Make a college effectively, whatever word you want to use, but make them co-sign a loan.
Make them co-sign the loan.
And yes, that student is the first person to repeat.
I love this idea.
But if they don't, the colleges repay.
You know why I love this idea?
Because it will also help with admissions.
They're not going to start, keep admitting people that they don't have a strong belief that that person is a good candidate for a degree, that they are qualified, that they are smart enough to get a good job that can actually pay that loan back.
Right now, they're getting all mixed up in this ideology.
Well, guess what?
Ideology gets thrown out the window when dollars and cents start not adding up.
So I love that.
And by the way, the whole reason the federal government got involved in the student loan process is because you could make an argument that this was good for the country.
Like we are doing a public good by ensuring more and more young people get college degrees.
Well, I'm not so sure that it is in the public interest to get more and more people educated beyond their intelligence or to get degrees that don't mean anything, that don't train them for anything.
So the whole system needs reform because it's broken and it's actually ending up in results that don't help the country.
And so I love that co-signing idea.
I think we should push that hard.
I don't know if young people will get the memo, but I just remember when I was coming, a lot of this came up when I was coming of age because, you know, they're like, well, Europeans, they give a free education.
And they all sit in school for 40 years and they have a youth unemployment rate of 25%.
Exactly.
And they're stagnant.
And they're still importing infinity immigrants from abroad to replace them.
Defining Marriage Roles00:14:03
So let's not be like Europe.
Let's not be like Europe.
No one wants to be like Europe.
I don't think that mirage has been successfully.
If the mirage has not been dispelled, go to East London.
Yep.
Elizabeth, thank you for calling in.
Hopefully we got to your question.
I love the way you're thinking.
It's strategic.
Get them a bone and we get everything we want.
And so I'm going to think on that more.
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Mary asks, what advice would you give young adults struggling to find the point of continuing to advocate and fight for what's right?
I am in the middle of a massive legal battle with the third largest healthcare group and medical school in my home state.
I guess that's kind of a big picture question.
Unfortunately, we can't get the details on that suit, but I do think the bigger question, how do you find the motivation to keep fighting when stuff is tough, is the thing a lot of people are asking.
That was a big theme of our first hour.
And maybe we can get that clip from Charlie because I know we've aired it before, but as Charlie would say, guys, we don't fight because we are likely to win.
Hopefully we'll win.
But the reason you fight is because it's the right thing to do.
You fight for your country because it is the right thing to do.
And you have to do that even if you know it's doomed.
Even if you know it will fail.
You have to fight for the right thing.
Yeah.
You know, you think back to like Churchill and World War II and the Blitz and how he rallied the troops.
I don't know.
We should pull that.
We should pull that famous Churchill clip because I think it's inspiring.
And I would also say that deeper than that, you know, what does it profit a man to gain the whole world but to lose his soul?
And I was speaking with some folks at the Federalists.
That's why Molly Hemingway and Sean were in town yesterday.
And, you know, I talked about somebody asked a question, what's going to make the country good?
Do we need revival before the country can be restored fully?
And I would say, yes.
Ultimately, we fight because our faith compels us to, because our value set compels us to, as Blake was saying, and what Charlie was saying, is that you fight because it's the right thing to do.
Well, how do you know what the right thing to do is?
Well, you lean on your faith.
You lean on scripture.
You lean on the eternal things, the good, the true, the beautiful.
And I think without an anchoring in the eternal, without an anchoring in what God wants for this world, you know, we pray that the one prayer that Jesus taught us to pray was, you know, our Father, right?
May your kingdom come.
So we fight because we're trying to make earth more like heaven.
And so ultimately, how do you make that happen without providence and without us participating in some grand design from the Lord?
So I think the faith element is what keeps me going.
It keeps me going in all this after Charlie, we lost Charlie.
So to me, that's, you can't get through that question without that core element.
What do you think, Danny?
Yeah, I think just giving up in general is never the answer.
It's cringe, too.
For anything.
Yeah, it's lame.
Writers are lame.
Yeah, so why would you ever give up?
Why would you ever just stop fighting?
What's the point of that?
Like, when you're in the middle of the Romans 12, 12 says, Rejoice in hope, endure in affliction, persevere in prayer.
I'm sure there's probably some modern casual translation of the Bible that just says no quitting.
Yeah, the message.
Yeah, exactly.
Actually, I'm going to look up what the message says.
Oh, you should.
But I mean, I think that's well said, Danny.
Like, quitting is like for losers.
Oh, my gosh.
It's quitting bad.
Quitting it.
Oh, what does the message say?
Don't burn out.
Keep yourself fueled and aflame.
Be alert servants of the master, cheerfully expectant.
Don't quit in hard times.
Pray all the harder.
Help needy Christians be inventive in hospitality.
I think they merged 12 and 13 there because the message gets very blurry with its verses.
But nevertheless, even if it's in a bad Bible translation, the Bible is very clear.
You endure.
And if you think it's tough, if you think it's tough now because we lose legal challenges, we lose elections, we lose economic growth.
Remember, there are Christians who lost their lives.
They got eaten by lions in the Coliseum.
They got crucified by Roman officials, by pagans, by the Japanese.
There have been martyrs all around the world.
People have had to suffer far more than any of us, save Charlie, of course, will likely ever suffer for our faiths, for our values.
I've got a good verse for this, since you brought up the Bible verse.
Isaiah 40, 30 through 31.
I'll read the ESV.
Even youths shall faint and be weary, and young men shall fall exhausted.
But they who wait for the Lord shall renew their strength.
They shall mount up with wings like eagles.
They shall run and not be weary.
They shall walk and not faint.
So the key there is those who wait for the Lord shall renew their strength.
And in a lot of ways, this whole season that we're living through on the show, what we're living through with TPUSA, what we're living through when it comes to Iran, when we're living through the economic promises and all of this affordability stuff that we talk about, what you're living through, Mary, with your lawsuit, with this health care, sometimes you've got to wait on the Lord, and the waiting can be the hardest part.
That was a great question from Mary.
I think we have Christine next.
We'll read her question.
And we were told she left, but we still want to get to.
So Christine's subscriber question.
Andrew and Blake, you've said women want the marriage benefits, but not the authority, I assume, of the husband.
As a Christian wife, my husband has the final veto on finances, safety, future, and spiritual leadership, and it works great.
But as a counselor, I see far too many men who turn submission into domination.
What's your personal take on male authority in marriage?
Should this start in dating, and how does this help TPUSA students on campus?
You've got to take the lead on that one, Andrew.
All right.
So, yeah, I'm going to pull up this Bible verse here because it's important.
This comes from Ephesians 5, okay?
So, let's just read the scripture here then.
Submit to one another out of reverence for Christ.
So, that's the first point.
It's not domination.
It's submit to one another.
Wives, submit to your own husbands as you do to the Lord.
For the husband is the head, and the wife, as Christ, is the head of the church, his body of which he is the savior.
Now, as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.
Here's the key, though, because you could stop there and it ends in a domination.
Husbands love your wives, just as Christ loved the church, and here's the key, and gave himself up for her to make her holy, cleansing her by the washing with water through the word, and to present her to himself as a radiant church without stain or wrinkle or any other blemish, but holy and blameless.
In this same way, husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies.
He who loves his wife loves himself.
After all, no one ever hated their own body, but they feed and care for their body just as Christ does the church, for we are members of his body.
For this reason, a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh.
Paul says this is a profound mystery.
So the point here is: yes, there is a divine order of things.
There is a way that God set things up that a wife should come under the headship of her husband.
That's what it says in the scripture.
Don't get mad at me.
This is what this is what it says in the word.
But the exchange is a profound mystery because the husband will then sacrifice himself, his own wants, his needs, his desires to serve his wife, to serve his family, to make his wife radiant and holy and good.
That's the key.
And when a wife trusts the good intentions, the good faith intentions of her husband, that he is doing everything in his leadership power and his authority power, in his headship power to serve his wife, to make her holy and radiant, then a beautiful mystery happens.
And the wife will not fight the husband.
The husband will not domineer over the wife.
They become one.
And so that's the key.
A lot of people take the submit to your husband's line and they subtract the next portion of that.
But it's a great burden upon men.
It's a beautiful servant relationship that you serve your wife.
And I think when you do that, when there's trust, a lot of that animosity goes out the window.
Like in my marriage, we don't even think about this stuff like in a conscious level.
We understand the principles of scripture and we try and honor that in our marriage.
But it's not like we're going around all the time being like, submit to me, woman.
I am the head.
No, that's not at all how it works.
As a matter of fact, my wife has amazing intuition and discernment, and I rely on her to help avoid pitfalls, to avoid mistakes.
And I trust her judgment on these things.
So it's very much a partnership.
I don't know if you guys have any thoughts on this.
Maybe from the Gen Z dating perspective, Daniel.
I mean, I don't know.
You go first.
Like, you can start.
Well, I was just saying, I don't, I don't like to do big opinions on this.
I'm not married.
It's sort of silly for me to say some people.
I know.
I have many friends who are married, some friends who are divorced.
And that's what happens when you age.
You see which ones make it and which don't.
But I think instead, what I turn to, I think a very good perspective on marriage was actually offered by Erica at Charlie's Memorial.
She very much wanted to talk about Charlie's attitude towards marriage, that his goal when he wanted to save young people wasn't just a religious revival.
He cared a lot about reviving the American family.
She said, if Charlie had entered politics, his number one priority would be a revival of the family.
And so she talks about what an ideal marriage looks like.
She used her own marriage with Charlie as an example.
We all saw it.
It was a very good marriage.
And it did involve that excellent, strong leadership from Charlie, definitely submission from Erica, but in that positive way, that your wife is your helpmate.
She is not your slave.
I think that is what she said.
And we have some CK clips.
Excellent.
We should play that.
I think we'll play that before the segment is out.
But that's one of those things where if you're going into it with the right attitude, certainly with an attitude of faith for one, it shouldn't be that difficult because it's almost like you should practically be competing with each other to see who can serve the other one better.
Like the wife is really going all out to show how much she can submit, which is how much of a great helpmate she can be to her husband, while the husband is going all out to show what an amazing provider he is for the spouse, an amazing servant leadership.
And if they're basically competing with each other on that front, I don't see how the marriage can really go badly.
And it's when you start turning marriage into a rivalry, when you start turning it into a power struggle, of course it's going to end up being toxic.
And distrust runs amok and so many other bad things.
Let's hear Charlie's words on this.
Sat 19.
This is something that I hope will make Taylor Swift more conservative.
Engage in reality more and get outside of the abstract clouds.
Reject feminism.
Submit to your husband, Taylor.
You're not in charge.
And most importantly, I can't wait to go to a Taylor Kelsey concert.
I can't say it without laughing.
You got to change your name.
If not, you don't really mean it.
Congratulations, Taylor.
I forgot about that.
That went so great.
That was so excellent.
It was so right on, by the way.
You know, speaking of, did you know the guy who plays Jacob from those Twilight movies, Taylor Lautner?
He married someone also named Taylor, and she did change her last name.
So they're both Taylor Lautner.
And I guess they're having a baby, and they've hinted they're going to name the baby Taylor as well.
So it'll be Taylor Lautner and Taylor Lautner with their baby Taylor Lautner.
That's a terrible idea.
Sat 20, more from CK on this.
Hello, TikTok.
Today's a very special day.
It is our four-year anniversary.
Four years.
Mary's my best friend.
What's your piece of advice after four years for all the TikTok people?
Oh, my goodness.
Love your husband well.
And get married.
Yes.
Just get off your couch, stop watching all that terrible stuff, and go get married.
Yes, that's right.
And go on that adventure.
It's the best thing ever.
And go get married.
The Taylor Lautner Family00:05:23
It's amazing.
To the right person.
Happier than ever.
God bless you guys.
That selfie angle makes it look like Charlie is like three feet taller.
He was a giant.
He was a tall guy.
He was an Ephelim.
But that's why we had the Shaq chair here.
Like, legitimately, one of the things when people come into the studio and they always want to take pictures and stuff like that, I always tell them, you know, this was the cheapest chair option that we presented him because he was such a giant human.
So we had this, you know, it was a $1,000 chair and a $500 chair and all this stuff.
He was like, I don't like him.
He had back problems.
So he was like, I don't like it.
I don't like it.
So they ended up going with the Shaq chair.
It was like $150 at Target.
And he was like, this is the one, like, made for supersized people.
And I think we got it years ago.
It's even got like a little piece of the, what do you call it?
The vinyl is like has worn off because he used it so much.
And it just makes me love it all the more.
So yeah, Charlie was a giant person.
Every time we, by the way, you saw this too.
When we take him into public or whatever, people meet him for the first time.
People are like, you're way taller than I expected.
Yeah, he was a big guy.
Do we have another question?
We got three minutes left in this segment.
Yeah, all right.
Let's go to, I think, Ian is next.
Ian, if you're there, unmute yourself and what's your question?
Hey, guys, how are you doing?
We're doing great.
Hey, you kind of answered my first question with how do we talk about Trump, meaning the peace president.
So hopefully they give us something.
But I would like to know: how can Congress be the only people that can vote on their salary, leave their job, and also get paid when the company is shut down?
Because that sounds like a fantastic job.
And, you know, it just seems kind of crazy to me.
Why are we allowing this?
We're just sitting by and like treating them like celebrities.
Why is this changed like this?
When do they stop serving the people?
Oh, man, if you wanted to get that disaster.
Are you trying to trigger me into another angry ranting?
One of a kind of eccentric idea of mine is they're very frustrating.
They do like to vote themselves pay raises.
Although, in some ways, they don't get paid a ton.
One of my, and that's why they're always maneuvering to cash in as lobbyists after they leave office.
So many of them are looking to the next thing.
I have sometimes wondered, what if we, this would make people mad.
What if you did something like you said?
Actually, senators are paid a million dollars a year, but you are never allowed to work anything government adjacent as soon as you leave office.
Like, no lobbying nonsense.
In fact, you're banished from the DC area.
Just you have to, maybe you can't even, you can, you can never even make more than a million dollars a year once you leave office.
If the government shut down, you don't get paid down, you don't get paid.
Like, you, you attach more strings to it, and you have way stricter anti-bribery, anti-balanced.
How about this, too?
You incentivize them if they save money.
If they balance the budget, they all get another million dollars.
Oh, that would be.
As soon as you did that, we'd have a balanced budget.
Oh, right away.
And, but here's the thing: it has to be strings attached.
If you don't keep the government funded, no money.
You don't get it back.
It's not furloughed.
You don't get to make up for that lost money.
You're just out money.
I actually think this is a great idea.
Balance the budget, million-dollar bonus for all members of Congress.
And here's-I think that was more plausible when the deficit was $300 billion instead of $3 trillion.
They'd figure it out.
They'd figure it out.
A million-dollar bonus.
You want to see Somalians getting like, they'd be going after them.
No, listen.
This is actually, these are some good thoughts here.
I will say, to your point, though, Senator Kennedy did propose that budget amendment or that amendment on the floor, I think, basically saying, hey, we shouldn't get paid while the government is not fully funded.
So he tried, and then the Democrats, you know, spiked it.
And then the guy, I guess, who issued the motion ran out of the chamber.
Because he's a coward.
They're all cowards.
That's the problem with deliberative bodies.
They get to hide behind the rest of the team.
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We have Mick, who's up next.
Mick, unmute yourself.
Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.
Hey, thanks, guys.
Sorry I couldn't talk last week.
I would have summed like a prepiew peasant, Emperor Palpatine.
Naming Warmongers00:08:05
And I hate to saber rattle here, but everyone I talk to my age, and I'm 22 years old, they just do not care about Iran one way or another.
I mean, you could go in with a camera and say, all right, guys, here's the nukes.
They're building them.
And they still wouldn't care.
They'd be like, what are we doing at home?
And so could we name some of the names, some of those warmongers that are in the cabinet, in the administration?
I'm not sure if there's any in the cabinet, but I want to start a public pressure campaign so those individuals' names are out there.
And just we got to get this wrapped up.
Yeah, I totally agree.
I mean, listen, you're singing from the same song sheet here.
Yeah, it's the same thing.
I'm 23, so I'm basically the same age, and that's the exact same thing I'm hearing.
Well, not that they don't care.
They actually do care a lot and that they don't want us involved.
They don't care about being pro-war.
They care a lot that we shouldn't be there.
We need to get out.
And they're really turning on Trump.
Yeah.
Let's just be fair to Trump here, though, right?
President Trump has been very consistent on Iran throughout the years that Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon.
So it's one of those things.
I mean, even Charlie, you know, went around in 2024 and described President Trump as the peace president, no new wars, first president not to get us into another foreign conflict.
You know, for whatever reason, President Trump looked at the math, looked at the intel, and decided this was the time to strike.
You can disagree with it, but the truth is he has been consistent about Iran throughout the years.
This is the biggest test.
So who are those figures?
You want us to name names?
I mean, some of the notable ones would be like Mike Waltz.
It would be CIA Director John Radcliffe has said that the intel was there.
You know, some people point to Pete Hegseth.
I don't know that that's fair.
Pete's a good soldier.
The president has made the decision to go in, so Pete's going to do it the best he can.
A lot of finger pointing has gone on, gone to Bibi Netanyahu, who's not in the administration.
Obviously, he's the prime minister of Israel.
He's wanted to take out the Iranian threat in that region.
So we've got to just sort of be honest that I'm not a believer in that President Trump didn't have his own agency here.
He had his own agency.
He wanted to take this shot.
He thought it was the right time.
I think what we saw in Venezuela probably made a lot of the warmongers within the military-industrial complex and the intel community, whatever, sort of say, hey, we can do this and it can be really seamless and really clean.
I hope that ultimately proves to be right.
And I'll say what I've said before, that this could ultimately be the right foreign policy decision, national security decision, and it could be politically unpopular.
And that's a trade-off that a lot of us are very uncomfortable with, but that's where we are.
And what every young person that I've talked to, Gen Z, is they all thought Venezuela was awesome.
They were so behind it, even though it was still a military.
Oh, 100%.
Yeah, and that was more so because it was like a quick in-and-out thing.
Nobody died.
But they're on this new thing where we saw this yesterday when we were talking to him, where that if a single American dies in a conflict, they immediately go off that we should have never been in there in the first place.
And so they're kind of tying American deaths to whether or not they're not.
They're talking about Gen Z.
Yeah, Gen Z, of whether or not we should be going to war.
And so they're very against the Iran war right now.
And one of the main things is because they're mentioning that we've lost 13 soldiers.
And so that's why Venezuela was great because we didn't lose any.
So it's kind of a weird path that they're going down because you can't really have a country if you're not going to lose some soldiers at some point.
It's not reasonable.
You'd never have a country.
So there's a little bit of fine lining here where they're kind of just dooming to doom on some stuff.
Yeah, they just, there is some kvetching just to kvetch, right, as I would say.
But, you know, I would say the Venezuela strike was different as well because we have something called the Monroe Doctrine, right?
Where it's hemispheric dominance.
I think a lot of, you know, even people that are uncomfortable with this concept of American empire can get behind the fact that we're the big dog in the Western hemisphere and everybody needs to kind of like get in line.
I love that, to be honest.
I'm super into it.
And so, you know, you've blown up drug boats.
That was kind of rad too because these guys are bringing in poison to kill Americans and, you know, feed this black market of drugs and fentanyl and cocaine.
Bloved the drug boats.
Okay, fine.
Middle East, man, we've just got a lot of scar tissue there, and it's a way tougher sell.
And by the way, Iran is a huge country, huge.
And it's got a lot of different factions and a lot of different things going on there.
A lot of history, proud people.
I just hope that the people rise up.
And I think President Trump's right.
If they do it now, they're going to get mowed down.
But I do hope that that does end up happening.
They take their country back.
Blake, do you have any thoughts?
I mean, no, no, it's fine.
Who's next?
Yeah.
We have Anthony.
Anthony.
Welcome to the show.
Hi, guys.
Hey, what's going on?
Just got off a meeting.
That's why I emailed you guys my question earlier because I didn't know if I was going to get on.
Well, what's your question?
Yeah, good to have you.
Let me hold my email real quick so I remember as I sent it to you guys.
So basically, it's regarding how Democrats want to control things by putting bills on the floor in federal government and in certain states to control limit of movement, what you can do with energy, what you can install in buildings and houses.
And the reason I ask this is because now we're seeing, I think it's in Massachusetts, I said, this thing called the Move Act that will limit how much you can drive a day, a week, a month, a year.
Is there any way to stop this or kind of put the brakes on it?
Because, and I know it's at the state level, but is there a federal thing that can be done through EPA, Zeldin's department?
Because you're limiting the motion of freedom.
Sounds unconstitutional, actually.
But I don't know, Blake, do you have any?
I mean, I don't know the specifics of this law in general.
I just saw it pop up this week all over social media.
Yeah, in general, we do.
Yeah, like Massachusetts moves to limit miles people can drive because of climate change.
But I don't know if that like a strict rule or is it more of some they're trying to pass it as a bill.
And the only reason I ask this is because we all know like when California usually does something, the next blue state will do it, like Illinois, New York, New Jersey, and so on.
Like, this is kind of like you're stopping freedom here.
It sounds, I'm looking at it now.
It looks like it sets statewide goals, which, yeah, it's the left is very good at taking vague goals and then suddenly they somehow have legal force.
They're good at a thing that is difficult with the left, the left is generally better at decentralized action in the sense they really are almost like the Borg or the Hive mind.
Like memetic stuff gets out where they're suddenly all on the same page and they all get aligned and they don't necessarily even need to communicate with each other.
And so all of their judges are suddenly with the program, whether it's on open borders or on global warming or on race communism or everything.
And ideally, we could take steps to stop it.
But on the other hand, one of the best things that does protect us when the left inevitably has more power in this country is we do have a federalist system that allows red states to push back against this as well.
So to some extent, that's the double side of the coin in terms of blue states being able to, you know, destroy themselves.
Yeah, I mean, listen, I think this sounds really unpopular.
It reminds me of that you'll own nothing and you'll be happy.
Instead of fixing underlying problems, they just want to limit freedom, limit access, limit the size of your house, limit all these kind of things.
I think it's going to be wildly unpopular.
But Anthony, thank you for your question.
We will see you guys next week.
Have a great weekend.
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