Ask Us Anything 252: CPS Corruption? Super Bowl Predictions? Trump Pardons?
Charlie Kirk and Tyler Boyer debate election integrity, pushing the SAVE Act (76%-83% Black voter support) and MEGA Act to ban mail-in ballots, ranked-choice voting, and expose Democratic reliance on non-citizen votes—citing 10K-15K daily border crossings. Andy exposes CPS corruption via anonymous reports, like a Turning Point USA ally’s eight-month custody battle over neighbor complaints, while Kirk promotes YReFi for student debt relief and All Family Pharmacy for affordable prescriptions. Super Bowl predictions clash: Kirk’s pro-Patriots bias (27-24) vs. fan favorites like the Seahawks (35-14), with Boyer joking about Trump pardoning Hillary Clinton to settle Benghazi. The episode ties election fraud, CPS abuses, and conservative media’s role in reshaping cultural narratives—from halftime shows to policy battles. [Automatically generated summary]
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Yeah.
Blake just put it together that the Diamondbacks, the sports team, the baseball team.
Sorry, I'm so used to being vague this week.
I just always called them the D-backs, so I never really kind of – Well, it's the Diamondbacks because we are in the desert here.
Anyway.
No, that's not why.
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Yeah, I knew they named it that because there is a snake in the desert, Andrew.
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But baseball diamond.
It's actually really smart.
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Our first question is from Anthony.
Anthony, unmute yourself.
Welcome to the show.
What's up, guys?
Blake, it's a snake that lives in the desert.
It's an actual real snake called.
I know.
I know it's a snake that lives in the desert.
I know.
I just didn't make the connection that they used diamondbacks specifically as a baseball kind of word.
Blake, have you run into any rattlesnakes since you've been here?
No.
I also haven't run into any tarantulas, which I'm told is good because the land scored.
Have you seen the javelinas?
No, no, I don't see anything.
Okay, the only things I see here on the tiny area.
I've seen them here on campus.
Yes.
We've got javelinas?
Yes.
We used to, before we had the gate, like many years ago, and before we had so many people down here when we first got into this building, every night the javelinas would come off the mountain and they come down and eat trash.
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Election Ballot Debates00:14:47
It was late at night.
I was one of the last people to leave.
And there's these huge pig things.
They look like pigs.
They're actually rats.
They're related to rats.
They're all related to them.
Well, they're related to Capybara.
Got it.
Yeah.
Anyways, they're running through and everybody's like, get in your car because they could be rabid.
All right, Anthony, what's your question?
So, okay, so it's kind of, there's two questions.
The first one is about the SAVE Act.
I know what it's supposed to do, but how does it affect local and state elections?
Because I'm hearing in our state that, well, if the Save Act gets passed, we're going to have to have two types of elections, one for state elections, one for federal, two different departments.
And it's really not going to do anything for the state and local elections.
And then my other question is this.
We have a candidate running for state assembly in my district, and we're going to probably have to do a primary.
One of the candidates, some people are saying she's too conservative.
Can somebody actually be too conservative?
Not to this show.
So I'm going to tell you the answer to that question is no, but it depends on what election you're talking about.
Do you know what election you're talking about?
The election for the two conservative candidate Tyler.
Is that the one you're asking?
Yeah.
Okay.
It's assembled.
New York State.
It would be, so I'm District 25, but my town goes into the next county.
I think we're Assembly 130.
Yeah, we'll spare the national audience for that.
But if you want to email over the two candidates' names, I can take a look at it for you from people we trust and let you know who's who and what.
Yeah, like the concept of too conservative, like Bill Buckley used to have that shorthand principle that you should try to elect the most conservative electable candidate.
Like it is possible to nominate a person who you know just can't win in that jurisdiction, and that's often going to be a waste of time trying to put that person up if there's a person who could win that you could nominate instead.
You also could say like you don't want to use maybe people will attack me for this, but you there is a factor that comes into play.
Like is a person competent?
Is a person fully stable?
Like there's a person who, there are certainly candidates out there whose brand is just being the most conservative person, but they're otherwise like a wrecking ball of causing discord.
They can't run a good campaign.
They're inflammatory.
Those are all things that are not helpful to have in a general election.
Inflammatory can be okay.
It depends.
It depends.
Like it's a fine line.
Obviously, Trump is inflammatory.
You have to use prudence.
But yeah, like there can be people who are just frankly like mentally imbalanced lunatics who run for office.
Do you want to hit the Save Act portion?
Yeah, so I think you're bringing in the MEGA Act, the Make Elections Great Again Act, which is a different one from the Save America Act.
But the Save America Act is focused predominantly on voter ID, photo ID, citizenship requirements.
So there are some arguments that are being made there like, well, in my state, you can do local elections and actually include non-citizens based off of the state law.
And we know that this has been happening in New York and other places.
And so therefore, they're making the argument that they're going to have to actually have two separate elections, which the likelihood of passing the Save America Act will be that it will be too lazy to actually do that.
Well, it's not even just too lazy.
It will probably, the people, like this is a, this is like an 80% popularity in most communities, even amongst Democrats.
And so it's high proponent.
So you're looking at a situation where Democrats will start to wake up and start going, hey, wait, non-citizens shouldn't be voting in our local elections too.
And they'll consolidate elections.
It really will cause the Democrats to expose themselves on how much they've added to the election processes in most of these places.
It's a start.
The mega act, the Make Elections Great Again Act, actually goes into eliminating the mail-in ballots for any reason, which again, this is where people are making the argument that would cause them to force them to do.
You're talking about without an excuse.
No excuse.
No excuse.
No excuse mail-in ballot.
For any reason.
Not every state has this, but many states do now, especially blue states.
And so the argument's being made, just what this gentleman's saying, is that they'll have to have two elections, one for federal, where they can't issue no excuse mail and ballots, and then a local election ballot.
And look, that's up to the people, right?
People can make that determination.
But the federal government has strict rule processes for the elections, and this would just secure even more.
I'm fully supportive of the MEGA Act in addition to the Save America Act.
Let's just go through it.
The MEGA Act incorporates the Save Acts proof of citizenship requirement for voter reg, but adds additional reforms, including requiring photo ID to vote, stronger voter role maintenance and cleanup processes, requiring mail-in absentee ballots to be received by election day, no postmark extensions, banning universal vote-by-mail systems, which is kind of what you're talking about, banning ranked choice voting in federal elections.
That's huge.
I didn't realize.
That's a big.
Tyler should explain ranked choice voting.
Ranked choice voting, in a nutshell, is a way to get rid of the most conservative candidate on the ballot, Anthony.
And in addition to that, force the electronic process that has to be, because you can only do ranked choice voting essentially with computers.
Yeah.
And we wouldn't have least Senator Release.
That's right.
That's right.
They're trying to do it in other places.
They tried to do it.
They're trying to do it only in red states or places that.
Missouri was another one to try it.
Missouri, Utah.
It bans ballot harvesting.
Great.
Mandates auditable paper ballots.
I mean, this is great.
I like this.
It's a great act.
It's really good.
But here's the deal.
If Congress can't even get their act together to pass the Save America Act, which is just basic voter ID laws, they're never going to get to MEGA.
So step one, and they know this.
This is part of the reason why there's so many blockades against the Save America Act, because, again, you poll this anywhere.
It's like 80% of the population in most communities that are even purplish are super supportive of the Save America Act.
Yeah, it polls like crazy.
Population was 76%.
That's right.
The highest was 83%, according to CNN.
76% of black Americans support voter ID.
So they agree with Nikki Minaj.
And I think most Americans are under the impression that you need it an ID to vote already.
And so there's not really a controversy here.
The only controversy is why are Democrats blocking something that is so common sense?
Right now, it's almost like they have the ideal world, which is people think this is required, but for their purposes with the voters they want to get through, they know they can get away without having it.
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Next question here.
Oh, wait.
We have a clip that we need to play that was relevant to Anthony's question here.
This is Charlie.
We're talking about why no voter ID?
Why do the Dems not want it?
Well, this little exchange exposes exactly why.
586.
How many illegals are coming across the border every day?
A lot.
So about 10,000 to 15,000 a day.
Do you think Joe Biden are all going to vote, Dem?
Can you say that again?
The illegals?
Well, illegals.
Yeah, they're coming here.
They're going to vote Democrat, and we're going to win.
So you're admitting the border is a political tactic by the Democrat Party.
Joe Biden is opening the floodgates of this country because he wants to hold on to political power.
We've been saying this for a long time.
Proof.
Proof, you just admitted it.
What is he doing to secure the border?
When you have 15,000 people a day coming across your southern border, that's not a mistake.
Who cares?
But who cares?
Do you believe in borders?
That was like a.
I believe that.
No borders.
No.
One world government.
And final pitch for Joe Biden.
No borders, lots of war, more spying and bankrupt the country.
He is still going to win.
You guys might win an election, but that will be the death of America if that is the case.
So true.
I mean, I love it because you can't really tell if he's doing a bit or not.
And like, no, that guy was really serious.
No, that guy said he said it.
Did you see his eyes?
And he goes like this.
He realized he said something that he was like, oh, I wasn't supposed to say that.
I don't know.
What I will say is, to complete the thought, you'll run into people who will do kind of like fake libstick.
And I always tell people there's no point to doing it anymore because you basically cannot do an over-the-top.
It's such a good thing.
They already exist for real.
Just find them actually saying it.
That's the guy.
That's that guy that, to your point, like, he is like, that is not parody.
That is.
That was from March of 2024.
That's straight from the Joe Biden chats.
Thankfully, they did not win that election.
Andy, you're up next on the Charlie Kirk show.
Unmute yourself and welcome.
Hi, thank you for taking my call.
Of course.
Thank you for being a supporter.
So I like to talk about topics that normally, like, a lot of people in politics don't normally talk about.
And for me, there's an issue with the child protective services.
I was just thinking, you know, it's like with Doge, like they should have been one of the organizations that they looked into because there's actually like a lot of corruption in it.
I actually have some very dear friends, you know, really just good Christian people that they, their lives have been turned upside down because that evil organization took their kids away from them under false claims of child abuse.
And it's linked to the medical system because it's like you have to take your child to the hospital if there's like an injury.
But if you go there, then the doctor's required to report you to the CPS.
And then you get these corrupt judges, like the one they have, that think that you're guilty before being proven innocent.
It's like, I'm just, you know, appalled by it that that could happen to them.
And also that it's like no one in politics is even talking about it at all.
You're shouting about it.
No, I mean, I know two people personally, one who actually works here at Turning Point.
He had a bunch of, during the 2024 election, just Trump van signs all in his yard.
His neighbor called CPS on their family because his kids were like playing in the driveway.
And this was like an eight-month ordeal.
They had to get lawyers involved.
They spent down their savings.
Truly is it's one of the most Kafka-esque things you can have in government because, yeah, even if you're innocent, like once the legal bureaucracy can start moving, it's a tough thing because obviously there are so many cases where people, you know, kids have been horribly abused or even killed.
And then they say, well, why didn't we catch this?
And as we love to do, we pass all these mandatory XYZ laws.
But when those are used against people who are innocent, it's massive suffering for them.
And just the accusation of those innocent people is an interesting thing.
I can't believe I'm having to do this for a state I basically despise.
But New York State does appear to have had an interesting legal change just in the last couple months.
They did pass a law.
They eliminated anonymous reporting to CPS, which I can imagine there might be cases where you'd want that.
But on balance, I do think if you're trying to save children, you should be willing to put your name on it.
And the potential for abuse with purely anonymous reporting is off the charts.
You can have an angry landlord.
You can have an angry neighbor.
The most common of all, an embittered former partner of some kind.
That's who uses this the worst.
People who are, you know, former family members, former partners.
Family law is the worst type of law.
Every lawyer I've talked to who's been in that says that because it involves people at their worst.
It encourages them to behave their worst.
And it's very difficult, as Andy would know, it's difficult to improve it too much.
And as for why it doesn't get talked about too much politically, it is a state-level agency.
Obviously, some federal money comes in, but you're not going to have much room for doge on it because 50 different state laws often also then run at the local level.
It is something that's going to reward a lot of local involvement.
And that's one of the toughest things to get involved in.
Easiest, but also toughest because you have to learn your local rules.
You can't easily make it a big national issue.
You can't get as much attention on it.
It's high effort with lower reward, but it is something we need people involved in because, as you say, it does destroy a lot of lives.
And big picture, what we have to do the most is what Charlie cared about, which is reviving the American family because a lot of the suffering of CPS is downstream of American families disintegrating.
We have so many failed marriages.
We have so many children out of wedlock.
And weak churches.
And that's what's driving, that's what makes it easier to abuse kids.
And it also creates the situations where people will lie about things to hurt other people because they're using children as pawns.
And in a functional family, children are not pawns.
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Next question is a written-in question from Sam.
And the question is, what are everybody's Super Bowl predictions?
I think that's a fair question given the predictions are different.
I'm all in for the Darnold.
He's great.
One, he's had a great season.
Two, two, the biggest reason I have to pull for the Seahawks and for Darnold is because the Minnesota Vikings let him walk and they went all in on JJ and I really want them to regret that for all time that he immediately went and wanted to rule with another team because I'm a Packers fan and I have a sick desire to see Minnesota Vikings fans suffer.
That is a fair argument.
That is fair.
But the Seahawks are terrible.
The city of Seattle.
Oh, yeah.
So we love Boston.
Wait, wait, hold on.
Hey, Boston.
Boston has ties to 1770.
My family came in.
Seattle helped us win World War II.
Whatever.
Timeout.
I'm an Arizona fan through and through, but my East Coast, Eastern Conference, Eastern Side, Eastern Seaboard are Boston teams because my family came over on the Mayflower, and that's where the country started.
If it wasn't for the Bostonians, we wouldn't have the NFL.
Idaho is a red state, and I think they're still Seahawks fans, whereas the greater Boston area is still all blue states.
Timeout.
No.
Timeout.
Oh, New Hampshire.
Yeah, we've totally won that in a bunch of elections, haven't we?
If your state can't, we will.
If your state can't demand an NFL team, you can't claim a city that has homeless encampments as the proper area of their downtown.
You just can't.
Hold on.
Idaho does not claim Seattle.
What is your prediction?
The question is: what is your prediction?
We're getting off track.
My prediction is 27-24 New England.
You're a mate puller.
I'm pulling for Drake May.
My prediction is that in mass numbers, people are going to leave the halftime show and come watch our halftime show.
Mass numbers.
CNN disagrees with you, Mikey.
That's a badge of honor to have CNN.
Disagrees.
Nobody's watching, but we clip them to make fun of them.
588.
TPUSA is going to have its own halftime show, which they're going to put on conservative media outlets.
Kid Rock, who you saw in that clip, Brantley Gilbert, Lee Bryce, Gabby Barrett are going to be performing there.
And as they do, just back to Bad Bunny, he is a worldwide sensation.
He is not just popular in the U.S. or in Latin countries and Spanish-speaking countries.
It goes all the way around the globe.
Okay.
Wow, Turner's really going all in on Bad Bunny.
Apparently, Bad Bunny is a worldwide sensation.
I've never even heard of it.
We're going to have heroic.
We're going to have heroic American Hispanics.
They're going to be watching, and they're going to be like, I do not like this muchacho.
Put on the turning point at time, Joe.
So they're all Mexican.
Apparently.
I can see the scene.
Here's the thing.
They say the Canejo Malo is a worldwide pop sensation, but nobody seems to know his music.
524.
Favorite Bad Bunny song?
You know nobody got one.
Favorite Bad Bunny song?
Oh, no, no, Bad Bunny songs.
Favorite Bad Bunny song?
I have no idea.
Favorite Bad Bunny song?
Don't know.
I don't have one either.
Favorite Bad Bunny song.
I don't listen to Bad Bunny like that, but she got some missed stuff.
What is your favorite Bad Bunny song?
I don't listen to Bad Bunny, so I really don't even have one, man.
NFL players.
She's got some real stuff.
She got some real stuff.
I want, it'd be so amazing if we got some sort of.
It's going to come out.
The Seahawks will be down at the half.
And then I don't know who their coach is, but he'll rally the troops by just, he'll have them in their locker room.
And he'll hold up a smartphone and he'll just, he'll turn it on to Rumble or Rav or any of the co-sponsors.
And he starts playing.
And Kid Rock will be a little bit more than a little bit of a bunch of people.
Bawa Daba.
Yeah, he'll play Bawa DeBa.
And they'll be like, USA, USA.
And then they will charge back out.
It'll be like Miracle on Iceback.
It'll be like Miracle on Ice.
Instead of it being the coach, they'll just turn on the turning point halftime show.
So there'll be a full rally, full rally.
So this is our prediction.
So it will happen.
A funny angle here is that Chris Pavlovsky, you know, listen, I'm not giving away all the goods here, but he's going to be at Santa Clara for the big event.
And he happens to run a little organization called Rumble.
And I don't think he's going to be watching the field action.
I think he's going to be watching the screen action.
So that'll be fun.
That'll be a fun little twist.
So listen, I heard bars across America and restaurants are getting prepared to flip over bar owners.
Because think about this.
Bar owners, by a wide margin in America, are all conservative.
Remember, no one's talking about this.
No tax on tips.
So as everybody's in bars, in establishments, in places leading up to the big game and then following and during it, all of those people are about to, they're filing their taxes right now.
They don't even realize they're going to get a huge return because most of them didn't change their withholding.
All of these restaurant workers.
Good point.
One big, beautiful bill is exactly why you need to say no to the Conejo Malo and switch on over to us.
So all these bar owners right now love Trump.
They love no tax on tips.
All their employees are about to get basically a $20,000 to $30,000 boon that they forgot about.
Wow.
And they're going to be watching the TPO say halftime show, the All-American halftime show.
So this is what upsets me about this CNN clip, by the way.
They were like, well, we don't think they can win this battle.
Listen, do you think we went into this thinking that the 180 million people that are tuned in or whatever the number is going to be are all going to switch over?
No.
Wait, we also have more viewers on this show.
We will switch over and additional people will switch over.
We are going to bot the heck.
No, I'm just kidding.
So here's the win.
Okay.
The win is everybody's already talking about it.
You on CNN talking about it is part of the win.
If we get some people, if you see any dip at all, that's a win.
If you don't see a dip, but we see lots of action, maybe what happens is, so here's it.
Honestly, it's already a win.
That freaking bad bunny had to come out and say, oh, you don't need to have.
Yeah.
The Canejo Malo.
He already came out and said, actually, you don't need to have Spanish, no Spanish anymore for the show.
Like, they've had to back off.
And the dress.
The dress.
And he backed away from the dress.
So listen, all of this is the win.
So next year, if they pick, I don't know, a band that was in Santa Clara area that you could have picked, Metallica, everybody would have loved it.
Would have been great.
If they pick something that everybody can get behind and not some guy who's like, oh, you have four months to learn Spanish and I only speak English to the elites at the Grammys in Hollywood and say, Ice out, if you don't pick those guys, well, maybe then it's already a win.
I would love not to have to do this show again in the future, but maybe we will.
I have a prediction.
My prediction is that they will learn nothing.
They will double down.
It will get worse next year.
And we are going to have an even bigger tradition of another all-American halftime show.
Who should we have next year?
Well, we may have some announcements here soon.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, one lesson that we've learned from this whole experience, by the way, is do not try and book performing artists, performance artists, within three months.
Don't try it at home, folks, because they'll be in Australia.
They'll be on tour somewhere else.
And then there's like licensing, right?
Believe it or not, good musicians are popular and do things.
But no, there was actually.
And they want to do it, but they can't.
By the way, this is the thing.
These are Trailblazers, and these guys deserve a lot of credit.
So I just want to give a huge shout out to them again because they deserve.
They deserve.
So it's Brantley Gilbert, Lee Bryce, Gabby Barrett, and Kid Rock.
A huge shout out to them because what they're doing is brave.
Erica said that, and I was like, that's just the perfect way to say it.
They're being brave.
Because if the pioneers that set this, set the tone in year one, we're going to have even more amazing Patriots to come in year two and three if we keep doing this.
So because nobody wants to take on the machine.
Nobody wants to take on the cabal.
Nobody wants to take on the stadiums.
Trust me.
It's a whole thing.
And we'll talk more about it afterwards, but it's been an amazing adventure as well.
And the performers have put their heart and soul in it.
You guys have seen the rehearsal footage, right?
Like, I'm telling you, we're not messing around here.
And so we're putting our best foot forward.
Very exciting.
Oh, my prediction.
Seahawks are going to take it.
They're going to take it, but it's going to be close.
Seahawks vs Patriots Prediction00:06:05
I don't know.
I don't know.
27-24, that's probably about right.
It could be a little higher scoring than that.
I'm pulling for a breakout moment for Drake May.
We talked about off-camera.
We're like, I can't stand another Patriots dynasty.
I actually think it's great for the NFL.
This is my argument for the Dodgers in baseball.
It's good to have a villain.
Hey, no, I love the Dodgers being a villain if there's a salary cap.
No salary cap.
Yeah, salary cap, and you can't kick out your international players' salaries for 50 years.
You squarebacks.
Jeez.
You circle backs.
I guess I need an actual score.
I'm going to go for an absolutely twisted score.
Eight to seven.
It could be.
I mean, the Seahawks have the number one defense.
I don't know if the Pats, do the Pats have a good defense too?
You could get a total trench warfare meltdown.
See, the argument for the Patriots.
Let's go 14-13.
And there's going to be at least five combined turnovers.
So the argument against the Patriots is that they had a really easy schedule.
And also that the Seahawks were in the best division in football.
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I do want to tell you guys that our members of this show, members.charliekirk.com, we are going to be doing a family business call on Tuesday.
So that's just you to be a part of our production team.
So you get to tell us what you want us to cover, what you like about the show, what you don't.
I do have a great email here for you, Mikey, from Joe.
Says, guys, give Mikey his own show or at least 15 minutes without any background noise.
I think I'm the background noise.
I don't know about that.
Okay, that's cool.
We got Robbie.
He emails.
He says, I predict it's going to be Darnold's Day.
He's going to be a great American hero, and the Hawks are going to trounce them.
It's going to be like 35 to 14.
Yes, I'll be watching the All-American halftime show on my phone.
By the way, I don't know if you introduced him, but who is this Tyler guy?
He seems cool.
Very nice.
He's pretty cool.
He's the COO of Turning Point Action.
He helps run Chase the Vote.
This man was with Charlie longer than any of us here.
Yeah, literally when I was coming to work for Charlie, it was me and Tyler negotiating.
All right, two shows.
Who's this Tyler guy in 15 Minutes with Mikey?
We should launch this.
It would be like a Groundhog Day show.
Every single day you introduce Tyler like he's a new person.
That's a great point.
Emails are flooding in.
Thank you guys.
Jennifer says, do you guys remember when Pearl Jam tried to buck the stadium system and couldn't stand up to the cabal?
That is totally true.
Jennifer also says, we are watching Turning Point Halftime Show.
We have young children in the house.
However, we would watch anyways.
I love that.
See, this is the thing.
Okay.
If you have children, there's only one.
There's only one out of the show.
There's only one All-American halftime show.
Ted says, once the Packers are out, I quit watching football.
I really sympathize with that, Ted.
I did not watch any of the.
I'm that way with the Cardinals.
That's why I only make it like three or four years.
So that's why you never see football every year.
Yeah, that's why you've never watched a playoff game in your life.
Yeah, basically.
Oh, my God.
All right, what's the question?
Wait, so yeah, Cherise says that she's going to be watching.
Sanford says, not watching the game at all, do not care about it.
Period.
I will be watching RAV the entire time up until that time frame.
So you'll be watching.
Charisse predicts 16-19 with the Seahawks winning, but also she says we should get Guns N' Roses next year, which I think some of them are lib, but we should have Axl Rose and Slash get back together, and they get on stage, and they say that they're right wing now.
Pamera.
Pam says.
Saxon would be great, but they're British, so they're not all-American.
Pam says, absolutely continue the halftime show.
Thank you, Pam.
In her prediction, Seahawks win 27-17.
Missy says, oh, oh, my gosh.
I'm loving seeing Blake share his personality more and more.
His imagination.
And I'm with him in the Vikings fan thing that comes from being a Packers fan through and through.
Thank you, Missy.
Thank you very much.
Michelle says, yes, she's going to be watching.
And yes, make it an annual event.
Lisa, I want to text all my friends, especially those that have not yet seen the light.
Can't wait to see your show.
Ginger, Mikey, needs to have his own show.
Mikey doesn't get to talk.
Mikey, we're going to stop talking.
No, no.
Let's have Mikey answer.
We want to get this last question from one of the subscribers.
Mick, we believe you're still there.
Yes, sir.
There we go.
Mick, what's your question?
All right.
So last week I asked you guys about who we'd like to see indicted.
And now I want to ask you guys who should be pardoned.
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That hasn't been pardoned yet.
The one that comes to my head off the rip is Derek Chauvin.
I don't even really have to explain.
So I want to answer that one because that's come up before.
And I talked with Charlie about it.
And I obviously think he would deserve a pardon.
I do think he was wrongfully convicted in a political hysteria.
My understanding is the people closest with Derek do not want a federal pardon right now because they see challenging his federal conviction as a way to sort of delegitimize the case against him.
Like they would prefer to sue in federal court and have the conviction eventually thrown out somehow.
Whereas a pardon would accept the legitimacy of the verdict in return for clemency, but then he still is stuck in state prison.
So for their legal strategy, they do not want a pardon right now.
I may be behind the times.
I last heard about this many months ago.
So perhaps that's evolved, but that might be why that hasn't been discussed more.
Although I 100% agree he would deserve one.
I do think he was wrongfully convicted.
Other people who could be pardoned.
This is a less satisfying answer because I know it's not what you're looking for.
I thought it would be funny if President Trump would announce that he is pardoning Hillary Clinton for all of the things that she did for Benghazi, for her email server, and just come out and say, in the interests of moving on and healing America and showing that we don't have, you know, we aren't going to pursue these people for their past crimes.
I am pardoning Hillary Clinton.
And then you put the ball and Bill and you put the ball in their court where they have to accept or decline.
And if they decline, it's sort of a way to just put their guilt in their faces again.
Yeah, actually.
Because like them actually being held accountable, probably not going to happen.
So it's a way to sort of rub it in their noses.
Yeah, their lawyers are probably telling them they have to.
I think that's a good option.
Although the audience is probably going to want to see them.
They'll probably think I've lost my money.
Mikey, who would you pardon?
Snowden.
Snowden.
That's a good answer.
That's a good answer.
This is why you need your own show.
Snowden, but there's a lot of, I think there's disagreement, though.
Who deserves it more, Snowden or Assange?
I said Julian Assange because Julian Assange is a he wants to be here.
I don't know if Snowden does at this point, and he might be too tied in with the Russians that it's like he may not be able to detangle that ever again.
But Snowden, I actually think, could be a huge asset to the government and to our people.
And I think he's a truth teller.
And I think he was wrong for me.
I lean more towards Snowden.
Assange, I know some of their early releases through WikiLeaks, like you at least have a credible claim that they put American troops in danger, American lives in danger.
They were a little bit reckless with what they released.
Whereas with Snowden, I really do think Snowden, he found the government doing something flagrantly illegal.
They were lying about it.
It's almost classic 70s Intel thriller level of, oh, I'm in this machine and I discovered it was flagrantly illegal.
And yeah, everyone would say, oh, if he was truly honest, he would have come forward in America.
Well, no, because you lunatics would have thrown him in prison.
So he did the only reasonable thing, which is he had to flee the country.
And if even if he's like tied himself in with Russia in some way, I think the argument that is very fair is he had to do that to avoid possibly being murdered, possibly being imprisoned for life.
He's probably honestly living such a great life, though, in Russia.
They've probably given him a lot of people.
I don't know if it is.
I think he has a home in Russia.
No, I don't know.
But I don't think it's a life you'd love.
Like, the Russians, if you see that when people flee to Russia, like some of these ex-Assad guys, they get a home.
Like, Russia will make sure you can live here and we won't bother you.
But it's not a great life otherwise, Ness.
Life In Russia?00:00:44
I'm pretty sure.
And you're always monitored.
I'm skeptical.
It's amazing.
I'm pretty sure Russia's taking care of it.
Hold on.
We got to read through some more of these.
We got 40 seconds.
Janet says, I won't be watching football only your halftime show.
Bridget says, Bridget says, I only watch college football and I'll be watching the American halftime show.
Your halftime show.
Do it annual.
Do it annual.
Play back your favorite college game and then watch at halftime.
Howard says, guys, this household is all in on the All-American Halftime Show.
We will be watching the game, which sadly, I believe Seattle will have a huge lead and he's going to switch over.