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Feb. 4, 2026 - The Charlie Kirk Show
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The Delaying Tactics of Tyler Robinson's Defense
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All right, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.
We are on February 4th already.
My goodness, where is the time going?
We've got a lot to get to today.
This is a jam packed show.
We're going to get right into it.
Yesterday, there was a preliminary hearing with Tyler Robinson, the accused killer.
I certainly believe he's guilty of sin.
And then we're going to have Senator Coach Tuberville, who's going to be joining us talking about the SAVE Act.
So, lots to get to.
Without further ado, I'm going to throw it over to Blake because Blake, Had the job of going over that through the all four hours of the hearing yesterday.
Alrighty.
So, this is not the trial itself.
We'll obviously be covering the trial every day once it happens.
This is yet another preliminary hearing.
There's been a lot of these.
You've heard about them where they've been trying to keep cameras out of the courtroom.
They've been litigating how exactly Robinson will be dressed when he's in the courtroom and so on.
And what the claim yesterday was is they're making a bid, they being the defense team, to disqualify the entire county attorney's office from prosecuting this case.
So, these are the County Attorney's Office for Utah County, where the shooting took place.
Can I stop us right there?
Because there's, if you go on the internet, it's like the FBI, the FBI, the FBI.
This is not a federal case.
This is being tried at the local level.
Yes.
The FBI assisted in the initial investigation.
Conceivably, there could be federal charges someday.
You never know.
Like, for example, if something went awry with this, but right now, this is a state case in Utah.
Utah County, that's where Provo is, I believe.
Sure.
And one of the largest counties, but it's not Salt Lake.
And so they've been handling this case.
And what has emerged is that the daughter of one of the prosecutors on the team was present.
At the shooting.
And so the defense team is arguing that based on this fact alone, that she was one of 3,000 people there approximately, that it should, it creates a conflict of interest and it should disqualify the entire county attorney's office.
Which, if they succeed, it would mean it would have to be taken over by either another county attorney's office or by the state police.
Huge delay.
Huge delay, messes everything up, just drags the case out more, creates more uncertainty.
That's entirely what their plan is.
Now, thankfully, Legal experts who've commented on this say this is a pretty big long shot.
It'd be one thing if she was one of the one or two witnesses to the event.
Right.
Of course.
This is 3,000 people, and plus everyone saw it very quickly online.
And so the claim that there's some sort of special aspect to that is a long shot.
But they were asking them about it in court yesterday.
And what's interesting about it is it gives us an insight as to what evidence they've collected so far, what they're planning to bring, and also what the defense against it might be.
So, for example, They had Agent David Hull, one of the investigators, they had him on the stage and they were just cross examining him.
The state itself was actually cross examining him about all the evidence they'd found because they're pointing out, did any of this have anything to do with the daughter at all?
And he's saying no over and over again.
By the way, this was a surprise to some of us because we've been told that the preliminary hearing where the evidence will be first presented is not going to be until May.
We got to see this little small glimpse into some of the way the defense is thinking, some of the way the prosecution is thinking early.
For example, they're going back and forth.
On the evidence they have, like the fact that they found what they, for example, were able to find in Tyler Robinson's apartment.
Let's play the show.
Let's show 388.
Was a search warrant on the defendant's house executed in this case?
It was, yes, down in St. George.
And was evidence obtained from his house?
It was, yes.
What kind of evidence?
Kind of putting me on the spot, but if I recall, there were some bullet casings that had some inscriptions on.
There were some tools that were believed to have been used to make those inscriptions.
There were targets, I believe, that had been used and also targets that had been purchased recently or just prior to the event.
There was ring doorbell camera footage obtained from other residences down there.
And then a number of electrical items, laptops and such that were.
Collected as part of the warrant.
So we have that, for example.
We also have, they just talk about finding DNA at the scene, for example, 385.
Is DNA consistent with the defendant's DNA found on the firearm that was found at the scene?
Yes, the DNA on the firearm was consistent with that of Mr. Robinson.
And then, interestingly, they follow up on that, where then the defense team shows up and they try to do some back and forth on this.
Let's do 387.
Are you aware that the DNA evidence that was seized from the scene consisted of a mixture of at least five different individuals?
I'm not a DNA expert, so.
So you know enough to say what helps him, but you're not going to answer whether or not there were five individuals mixed into that DNA?
I'm not aware of that, no.
Okay.
And you're certainly not qualified to interpret complex DNA mixtures, are you?
No, I'm not.
Okay.
It's a little bizarre that they're going that intently at it in what is, again, a preliminary hearing, yet I guess that's a sign of what we might have to expect when this finally goes to full trial.
They're going to try to muddle the waters on DNA evidence.
There's a ton of reasons why you would find multiple.
DNA, multiple people's DNA on anything, actually.
Because people shed DNA, but to see one with a pattern that's connected to multiple different scenes, multiple different places, plus all the other evidence that there is, including video evidence.
By the way, there's a clip on video evidence that we have, right?
I'm trying to get the exact number because I don't see it in our sheet, but they had a back and forth where they just asked him because the reason they're asking this is they're diving into, they're kind of unpacking, you didn't catch this person because of a video taken by the daughter in question.
In fact, you didn't have a video of the shooting itself.
So I think it's 390, actually.
So this is Agent Hull responds to video on the rooftop.
It explains two different recordings, 390.
That roof that was recorded in that video, first, is there other surveillance of that person, a person in that location at that time running to that spot?
There is additional footage, yes.
Where does that come from?
That came from the Utah Valley University security cameras.
All right.
Is there another individual that also recorded a person running after the shooting?
from the roof.
Not to my recollection, no.
Any video from someone, do you recall a video from someone in the Hall of Flags who may have reported someone running after the shooting?
Yes, there was an individual who recorded from the Hall of Flags.
It's an interior video looking through the windows, but I believe an individual is visible on the rooftop also in that video.
There was another, though, where they just asked him, Do you have other stuff?
And he says, Actually, we have a ton of surveillance footage from the university of someone kind of tracing the suspect off campus.
And then he says they have ring doorbell footage from Orem, not just we knew about from St. George's, where, you know, around that area, but they also apparently have some from the vicinity of the shooting, tracing the suspect into the woods where they later found the firearm.
They have, they say they have security footage at businesses on the road back from Orem to St. George, where, so you get this sense, we don't know at all for sure, that they have a very strong documentary record of basically everywhere Tyler Robinson was.
We haven't seen all of those videos.
We'll presumably see them when the actual trial.
But it felt like the big headline from this is it really came into focus that they are trying to get the entire prosecution dismissed because one team member, and this was a hand picked crew of prosecutors, one of these prosecutors happened to have an 18 year old daughter on the scene that day.
So we're going to keep going through some of these clips because we've got a lot of clips here.
Yeah, so we've got, again, part of their argument they're claiming is this is literally the argument defense is making.
That they wouldn't be pursuing the death penalty in this case if not for the personal dimension that one of the attorney's daughters was there.
We have a clip of this.
And so they asked him about this.
This is now the county attorney, Jeffrey Gray, who was among other things, they point out he ran on a campaign promise to pursue the death penalty in appropriate cases.
And won.
Because they're elected.
And he ran on that.
And so they asked him about this.
389.
I'm going to refer to the prosecutor in your office whose child was present at the shooting as Prosecutor A. Do you know who I'm talking about?
Yes.
Have you ever met Prosecutor A's child that was present at that shooting?
Not that I could remember.
I could have in passing, but not that I can remember.
Did the presence of Prosecutor A's child have any effect on the decisions you've made in this case?
Zero.
Did that child's presence have any effect on your decision to seek the death penalty?
Zero.
Why did you choose to seek the death penalty in this case?
Because the evidence that had been gathered supports the aggravated murder charge, and I believe that the death penalty is entirely appropriate in this particular case.
That's a good answer.
Yeah, it's a good answer.
I'd say throughout this, I feel a lot of confidence.
I mean, let's just compare with, for example, the big Fannie Willis, the proceedings in that related to the prosecution of Trump.
A complete farce.
You have They're bringing, she's bringing in her boyfriend for support on this case and just funneling money.
Getting them paid.
Watching the, yeah, everyone's, it's just a giant feeding frenzy of incompetence and corruption.
I feel very much here, watching this hearing.
Everyone seems very professional.
They seem very sober.
This is the team you would want handling this.
Everything feels measured.
Yes.
Nobody's being over their skis.
Nobody's getting over the top.
It's just very by the book professional.
You can tell everybody's, and by the way, there's a whole game that goes on behind the scenes.
Where the defense is trying to get the prosecution to trip up so that they can reverse the guilty verdict that we're presuming is going to come on appeal, that they can get them on a technicality.
So everybody's trying to do everything by the book.
This is frustrating for us because we want to see justice done immediately.
As a matter of fact, Erica Kirk has put in a statement saying, they have victim rights in the state of Utah.
So she's able to assert her victim rights saying, I want a speedy trial, speedy justice.
But they have to keep that in balance to make sure they don't.
Overdo it and rush too fast so that to give the defense an excuse to again reverse it on appeal.
I have a couple more clips we want to hit.
So I want to mention this in the last one, but I wanted to get to it.
This is Agent Hull again talking about the ring doorbell footage they were able to get 426.
You said you collected surveillance evidence from Utah Valley University.
Is that right?
That's correct.
Did that give you some additional information on identifying the shooter?
It did, yes.
How about doorbell cameras for the areas around Utah Valley University?
Yes, we collected a large number of doorbell camera footage from multiple residences in the area, not just in Orem, but also in St. George.
And we also recovered video footage from multiple businesses in the area of the university campus in Orem, and also from businesses between Orem and St. George.
So there's a large amount of video footage obtained.
And did those help you identify the shooter?
They did, yes.
So we know, obviously, they have some of this.
Some of this has actually already come out.
But some of it we haven't seen.
Some of it is not in public.
Including some of the surveillance footage from campus.
And then, by the way, there's a clip here talking about all of the social media and text messages that they've collected 392.
Text messages.
Did you collect text messages from associates of Tyler Robinson?
We did, yes.
And did those have any evidentiary value?
They did, yes.
How so?
Some of the communications between Mr. Robinson and people that he knew indicated that he had been involved in the incident at Utah Valley University.
Okay, and you say that indicated he had been involved.
What do you mean by that?
There was, I don't recall specifically with text messages, but some of the social media chats, there were admissions that he had been involved in the incident as the shooter.
So, all of this, some of it is insight into what will go into the trial, but we shouldn't forget what actually brought this, which the defense team openly admits, is the point of this is to drag things out, throw in uncertainty, delay the trial, delay justice.
And what seems, I think you and I both agree, it looks like a pretty open and shut case overall.
But the goal is delay.
And in fact, they admit that themselves.
Let's play 394.
Existential Threat to Senate Majority 00:18:23
We understand that there is pressure on the judicial system.
To move this case expeditiously, there is also a countervailing, and we believe, stronger need to make sure that there's a heightened standard of reliability, that there is no conflict, and that there is no appearance of conflict.
And if that takes a little bit of time for another prosecution office to get up to speed, the investigation's gonna continue, the discovery production's gonna continue.
The lab work's going to continue.
None of that is going to change.
Just give us a little bit of time.
To get a whole new prosecution team.
That's an obscene request, in my opinion.
And then there's this whole other storyline, by the way, where they don't want still images of Mr. Robinson in the media.
They have grave concerns, they say, of huge photographic lenses focused on the client, which will interfere with his right to a fair trial.
These are the central dynamics that we're just getting the first insight of now.
Very telling about how they're going to proceed.
Yep.
Now, in their defense, the judge says he's going to rule on this specific request in about three weeks.
I think on the 24th, he'll issue a written ruling.
We'll also get a ruling on the filming of the proceedings and so forth around then.
But we're going to remain on this.
We are asking for cameras in that courtroom 100%.
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We are honored to be joined by the one and only Coach Tommy Tuberville out of the great state of Alabama.
And he's a great senator.
Sad to lose him in the Senate, but he's running for governor of that great state.
Coach, welcome back to the show.
Thanks.
Glad to be here.
I hope everything's going good with y'all.
We finally got a little ice moved out here around our building so we can move around so we can communicate up here in a clown show.
Are you in the clown show or are you backing out south right now?
I'm assuming you're in D.C.?
No, I'm in D.C.
It's.
It's one thing or another up here, but we're making progress.
We've funded the government.
How about that?
Well, that's not a small miracle this day and age.
Coach, everybody wants to know about the Save Act.
Is it going to be brought for a vote?
Is it going to be pushed forward?
Is Thune going to get behind it?
Please just lay it out for our audience because this is one of the most massively popular agenda items, according to Americans, if you poll it.
And yet, D.C. just can't seem to get out of their own way.
No, no.
And we're scared to death of the Democrats because they pretty much control.
You know, what we do and don't do in the Senate because we got to have a few of them vote with us.
And nobody wants to put a vote on the floor that's not going to pass.
Of course, Chuck Schumer spoiled the party when he says, you're not going to get one Democrat vote.
And so it's not going to work.
You know, it's not rocket science, it's common sense.
There's two things that the American people want, especially in my state of Alabama they want to close the borders and they want to have fair voting.
And President Trump has done a miraculous job of closing the border.
Nobody knew who's in.
Of course, he's trying to kick people out, which he should continue to do.
That's the way I look at it.
But the other one is we got to help the president out on this because we've got people up here in the House and the Senate that shouldn't be here because there's blue states that have rigged the elections.
There's no doubt now.
We've seen the evidence voting machines, harvest balloting, vote 10 or 15 times, illegals voting.
We have got to do something about these blue states.
And we all want to say, let's let their states control their own voting.
If we do that, We will lose a majority.
A minority will lose in the House, the Senate, and I don't know whether we can win another presidency if we don't get the SAVE Act through Congress and signed by President Trump.
Yeah, no, I completely agree.
The SAVE Act, it's one of these frustrations that the base, everybody should have with D.C.
Now, I know you've got to be collegial.
I know you have to, these are your colleagues in the Senate, and the Senate has a certain decorum, which I can appreciate.
But help me understand where Leader Thune is at on this issue.
Are we going to see a vote?
Are we going to get rid of the zombie filibuster to have this vote?
Do you feel the courage welling up inside the man's chest?
Or, you know, help us understand where we're at.
Well, Thune's in a tough spot because the president wants this voted on, but he knows it won't pass because we got to have 60 votes.
The only way to pass this is to bust the filibuster.
And we've got 10 or 15 people up here, maybe even more than that on the Republican side that basically said, we're not going to bust the filibuster.
And so if we don't do that, that means we won't get anything else done in the Senate or the House or the White House for President Trump unless an executive order.
We're done.
Now they say we have one more reconciliation.
That's 51 votes.
But I see very little work done on that.
But, you know, I was not for busting the filibuster.
But after listening to these crazies on the left, it's not the Democrats anymore.
It's the Uh, the Democrat Socialist Party of America on the left, and even the Democrats have moved that way.
I know they don't believe in all of it, but to get reelected, and that's what this business is in DC it's hey, we want to get reelected where we have more power, it's not about doing what's right for the American people.
So, uh, we have if we're going to help President Trump, we've got to have enough people to step up and say, okay, you know, let's get this done 51 votes.
Because if we don't, the very first thing that the uh, the Democrats will do when they take power, and that they'll bust the filibuster.
And I don't know whether we'll ever gain any power back because after that, they'll change everything they possibly can with 51 votes in the Senate.
Yeah.
So, you know, we had Senator Mark Wayne Molin on talking about potentially including this in a reconciliation bill, but you're saying you haven't seen much work done on that.
That's discouraging.
If we could get to 50 plus one, the House has already passed this.
I just, I mean, I hate it.
It's very frustrating.
It's very frustrating.
It's frustrating to hear we can't pass controversial stuff because there will be backlash and we'll lose the election.
But now we're at the point where we can't pass overwhelmingly popular stuff because there'll be backlash and something bad.
Well, and this is what's wild, too, Senator, is that we have, you know, you got 76% of black voters support voter ID.
You've got, you know, well over 80% of all American voters that support voter ID.
And yet the Democrats are obstructing it.
And you have to just sort of scratch your head and ask why.
Because.
What do they know that their own voters don't know?
And the only answer to that question is not a good answer.
It's not a happy answer for this country.
It does not bode well for our future.
And I would simply submit to your colleagues in the Senate that are blocking this that there's a very good chance that you don't win re election if you don't have free and fair elections, if you don't insist upon seeing and proving somebody's identity and that they're a citizen.
Would you agree?
Oh, 100%.
If we don't pass the SAVE Act, I think it's over.
I just don't see us having fair elections in enough states to where we can maintain the seats we have, much less take any.
There's no way in the state of Georgia we should have two senators that are Democrats.
No way.
There is no way in the state of Arizona we should have two Democrats.
There's no way.
Same way with Nevada.
If you look at some of these other states, it is, and we are losing.
Now, I don't know what Mark Wayne Mullen was saying, but in a reconciliation bill, you can't put something like the Save Act in there.
It has to be about budget, it has to be about money.
And this is not about money.
Well, in his defense, his point was that there would be cost in sort of federalizing certain aspects of the election at the state level.
So you could, I guess.
I would love to do that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The question then becomes can you get it done before September time period?
And is that enough time to, you know, Put it into action in the states.
There'd be lawsuits.
Who knows?
Who knows?
But if we get it done now, I completely agree with you.
This is existential for the country.
And we've got all these blue states that are losing voters.
They're moving to red states.
If we had a proper census in 2020, we'd already be there where the blue wall would be out of play.
Wouldn't even matter.
If you just hold the sun belt, you win the national election.
And so they're moving out.
We're winning voter reg battles all across the country.
And yet somehow, You know, we've got this party that's importing voters.
They're mostly being protected in blue jurisdictions and sanctuary jurisdictions.
And you just have to start wondering, you know, it's all rigged.
We can see that it's rigged.
You don't even have to get into tabulators.
You don't have to get into vote switching.
You don't have to get into any of the controversial, the really controversial stuff, which I believe there's a lot there.
You could just simply look at the policies of the left and Democrat Party protecting.
And by the way, coach, they're literally going with married women and black people are too dumb to get voter ID.
To get an ID.
That's their whole pitch on Jim Crow 2.0.
It's just so cynical and dumb at this point.
Yeah.
You got to look at it.
Okay.
The Democratic Socialist Party now has transitioned.
They're losing minority votes.
President Trump got more black votes in the history of a presidential election, right?
They're losing middle class votes.
Democrats used to be for the working man, that's come over to the Republican side.
So the new girlfriend for the Democrat Socialist Party is illegal aliens.
They got to have them because they're losing a lot of votes out of those other two groups.
Coming Republican, going back to actually voting for American, the way of life.
So the Democrats have to have their new girlfriend, the illegal aliens.
And so that's what you're seeing happen in Minneapolis.
You're seeing the same thing happen in California, in New York.
And that's the reason they have to keep the Save Act from going across the finish line.
Because if that happens, their new girlfriend is going to find a new boyfriend.
It's going to be out of this country, it's going to be Republicans.
So, President Trump has been calling for the, and I love the way you said that, by the way, the new girlfriend.
We're going to steal that with attribution when I remember, Coach.
But President Trump is calling for the federalization of elections.
You know, you could do that through an EO, but it would be much better to have it, you know, done through Congress.
I think that is probably a far cry as well if we can't even get the SAVE Act done.
What do you support that, and what would that even look like if instituted?
Well, you're talking about federalized elections?
Yes, that's what they say.
Yeah, because President Trump was saying that they are agents of the federal government when they're conducting federal elections.
So the federal government has a role to play in overseeing local elections because they're not doing it right in places like Detroit, Philadelphia, Atlanta.
There are so many issues of states and municipalities proving that they cannot competently run an election that includes federal offices.
Yeah, well, you're not going to have a fair election as long as you don't have ID for voting.
You're not going to have a fair election if you have harvest balloting.
That's not going to happen.
You're not going to have a fair election if you have these machines.
We've got to do away with them.
I know this is the 21st century, but folks, we're smart enough to have a ballot, paper ballot.
You go market, you turn it in, and you go home.
And you also do it in a one day period, not this week or two weeks.
It's nonsense to do what we're doing in these blue states.
And, you know, again, they are rigged.
These things are rigged.
We can't win.
And again, I'm just sick to death about what happened in Georgia.
You know, when I won in 2020, President Trump called me at nine o'clock after I'd won.
And congratulations, coach.
I said, How's it going?
I said, I'm doing great in all the swing states.
I'm 300,000 up here, 400,000, 500,000 up in Georgia.
And he loses all of them.
And how does that happen?
They cheated him.
We all know that.
And the mainstream media just, Just hit the ceiling if you say something like that.
But, folks, facts is facts.
You know, all you got to do now is look at the videos, all the information coming out.
You know, there were Republicans that were sued and went to jail for this nonsense.
And again, we got to take our country back.
We got to quit playing soft.
And that's the reason we don't bust this filibuster.
We're just handing on a silver platter to the Democrats, the United States of America, to turn socialist and communist.
And I'm telling you, it's coming in.
Exactly.
And I'm sick of all that.
I mean, this is a country that was built by our forefathers, and we're not going to give it up.
Christianity built this country.
We're not going to give it to a group of people, like you just said, these Islamic terrorists who are coming here to not assimilate, but to tear it down.
And just look in Texas.
My God, they have taken over cities in Texas, the deep south.
It just makes me sick at my stomach, but we're going to keep fighting.
Yeah, Senator, I wanted to talk more about Sharia law.
But I'm running out of time.
But God bless you.
Keep fighting.
Pass the SAVE Act.
Find a way.
Do what you got to do, Senator.
Thank you.
Yeah, we got to get it across the goal line.
Thank you.
God bless you.
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Let's get into Tom Holman held a press conference in Minneapolis this morning.
He obviously was deployed by the president to kind of.
Tighten the ship.
Yep.
So we had the clashes between ICE and all of the agitators, the comms, insurrectionists, the comms, insurgents in Minneapolis.
And the goal is to have fewer controversies and still make sure that people who don't belong in this country are getting out of this country.
Now, part of what people have seen, and we should lead with this, is he has announced they surged 7,000 people into the Minneapolis.
3,000, was it?
Or 3,000.
Maybe it's 3,000.
But he's announced that they're dialing back that.
Amount of surge.
And so, this is the big headline 417.
I have announced effective immediately.
We will draw down 700 people effective today.
700 law enforcement personnel.
Okay, now the why is coming up.
And also, just keep in mind that this has to happen at some point.
We're not going to perpetually keep 15, 20% of ICE in Minneapolis, as satisfying as that might be sometimes.
But he explains that the reason they're able to pull these out is that they're getting.
New cooperation from the state of Minnesota, the city of Minneapolis, that they previously were not able to get.
So, this is 418.
We currently have an unprecedented number of counties communicating with us now and allowing ICE to take custody of illegal aliens before they hit the streets.
Unprecedented cooperation.
And I'll say it again, this is efficient, requires only one or two officers to assume custody of a criminal alien target rather than eight or 10 officers going into the community and arresting that public safety threat.
This frees up more officers to arrest or remove criminal aliens.
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More officers taking custody of criminal aliens directly from the jails means less officers on the street doing criminal operations.
This is smart law enforcement, not less law enforcement.
And it's worth saying, Tom Homan is, gosh, I just think he's so disciplined.
In his role, that is what's.
So, Tom Homan is a field general.
We love Tom.
He's been on the show multiple times.
He loved Charlie.
Charlie loved Tom.
And we continue that relationship with Tom.
So, he's great.
But he's a field general.
But more importantly for this role right now, he's a great, disciplined messenger.
And so, of course, all of us in the base are going, hey, hey, hey, you're drawn back.
Was it not, you know, is it only the worst first?
Because I'm an all of them guy.
I'll just be really clear.
You break our laws, you invade our country, you participate in the erasure of the American culture that we love and we want to defend for our next generation, our kids and our grandkids.
You come into this country like that, heck no, you're out.
There's no negotiation, there's no sob story that's going to move me off that point, okay?
You do not bend the knee to these terrorists.
So, Tom, being the great messenger that he is, made sure he addressed exactly that concern, 409.
For those who are not a national security threat or public safety risk, you are not exempt from immigration enforcement actions.
If you're in the country illegally, you are not off the table.
And let me be clear President Trump fully intends to achieve mass deportations during this administration, and immigration enforcement actions will continue every day throughout this country.
So let me explain why this is important, what's happening here, and why the base needs to get behind what Tom's doing with the drawdown.
Now, it was BBC, it was NBC, it was Washington Post.
All of them led with the drawdown.
So, why is that important?
Because, and Breitbart had a great piece on this it's that the poll shows the majority of voters back President Trump's immigration policy.
Even despite all this media magnified, Democrat claims that the enforcement is hurting his poll numbers.
What they don't like is they don't like seeing the stuff in the streets, okay?
There's normies.
I personally have no problem with it.
Let me just be very clear.
I have zero problem with it.
But there's normies, there's independents.
All of them support mass deportations.
They want to get illegals out, but they don't want to see the images.
And the Democrats know that.
So they want to weaponize the images.
So we got to make it so that they can't do that, all right?
You got to be thinking strategically and the chess moves ahead of time.
There's stuff to flag here, which so.
Again, you need fewer agents.
It's vastly less disruptive and vastly more focused on the worst actors when you're letting them in jails, letting them into prisons, letting them actually take these malefactors right when they're most easily available and they get them out of the country.
And it has to be emphasized over and over again that the left does not want this.
The left wants criminals in America.
They want them robbing Americans.
They want them raping Americans.
They want them killing Americans.
And you can prove this.
You can go to the Washington Post.
This morning, this is a headline today, Washington Post.
Several states move to ban local cooperation in immigration arrests.
So, Maryland is going to basically ban any of their local law enforcement agencies anywhere in the state from working with ICE by, for example, letting them into jails.
They're trying to do this in New Mexico, in New York, in Hawaii, in Virginia.
The only reason to do this is that you want foreign criminals in America.
And you want it for the census and the electoral college, congressional seats, and voters.
But it would be so easy for them to say, okay, Just take these criminals and they'll try to divert it that way.
And oh, and then they can complain if they go after someone who hasn't committed any crime besides breaking into this country illegally.
They could do that.
But instead, they are so fanatical, they want the worst criminals here.
They would pay money to fly them into the country.
They want Maryland to be.
Because they did.
Yeah, they want Maryland dad to be sipping margaritas in Maryland.
So, but that's not going to happen.
We're going to get our mass deportations.
You either cooperate, do it the easy way, or you do it the hard way.
We'd much rather have it the easy way.
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