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It's James.
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Hey, James.
Yes.
Thanks for taking my question.
Tyler, I met you with Barbie Ingrell when I was in Arizona.
I don't know if you remember me, but yeah, so the Pentagon keeps feeling that audits and equipment goes missing.
As you know from the GEO audits, it's in the trillions of dollars of missing assets.
We can't pass a budget.
And in my documented case, reporting it, me and other whistleblowers, led to retaliation and what looks like a compromise DODIG process.
What's the best way to get verified whistleblower evidence in front of the right oversight, House Oversight, Armed Forces Service Committee?
And would TPUSA be willing to help route and spite cases that involve military waste, fraud, and abuse and IG failures?
Yeah, thanks for the question, James.
So I've actually talked to a number of the DOW guys.
Pete's a friend personally.
I haven't talked to him about this, but I just, I can tell you, on its face, the guys, especially the political appointees that are now in charge of the Department of War, are absolutely devoted to rooting out fraud, waste, and abuse, all of this stuff.
And there is a huge, and it sounds like you're very well aware of this, a huge behemoth of a procurement process that was in place and it's been in place for years and years and years that favors the incumbents, that favors the bloated companies, that favors the old school companies.
What they're trying to do is they're trying to revamp a lot of this.
You know, you hear about Palmer Lucky with Andorill and kind of what they're doing, this new age of defense contractors that are lighter, more nimble.
They're more advanced.
They're using better technology.
They're thinking about war in new and creative ways.
There's a bunch of companies like that, actually, startups all across the country, huge entrepreneurial neural class.
Maybe they were fighting wars 10 years ago, and now they're trying to build the machines and the technologies that will help us win wars in the future.
There's a huge group of these guys all over the country.
And so they're trying to break into this procurement process because they know exactly what you said.
But the old dogs, they're full of bloat.
There's full of backpadding.
There's full of workarounds, and they're all taking money on the side.
It's a huge, huge problem.
I can tell you, Secretary Hegseth is aware that this is happening.
There's a whole team that's dedicated to doing just what you're doing.
So, yes, if you guys get us stuff that you want us to pass along, obviously, this is you know, Department of War is not our specialty, but we know a lot of those guys, and we'd be happy to pass it on.
And I believe they've also got whistleblower protections at the federal level within the Department of War.
There should be already routes that you can take.
There's an armed services committee, and you got to look up and down that list and see who the good guys are because a lot of those guys are, it's kind of like the Intel committee.
You know, you don't really want to go directly to some of those guys.
So, I hate to be that blunt, but you got to find the right voices there.
Also, by the way, we just had Eli Crane.
This is a former special services guy.
He was a sniper.
So, this is a guy that you could go to directly in Arizona, send it to his office.
But we'd be happy to help and pass on anything we can because you're 1,000% right.
I was just going to say the same thing.
Eli is the person I would go directly.
I trust Eli completely.
This guy is really on.
Congressman Crane is incredible.
His team is great.
He's going to take every bit of that.
There's only a handful of congressmen who take these types of things seriously, or they won't just kind of balk and blank you on some of this stuff.
And so I would go directly to his office and sit down with him.
They'll make time.
And if you need any help there, absolutely.
We'll be happy to help.
Yeah, and email us freedom at charliekirk.com if you have any documents you want to send us.
Blake has literally got the inbox open.
We have teams that monitor that inbox all the time as well.
So hopefully that helps.
Does that answer your question?
Do you have any follow-up there, James?
Yes, sir, and I appreciate your time.
So the problem as I see it is the Department of Defense IG is actively part of the problem.
So when I did report it multiple times and other people report it multiple times, they just seem to proceed to help cover up or whitewash the report.
And what happened in this case, they apparently lost a lot of equipment.
They broke into dozens of U.S. contractors' bedrooms in foreign soil.
And so that shows just how the state of our inventory, which obviously means how many times has this happened?
How many, you know, is that equipment compromised?
Were people trying to, you know, you only take SIP or computers for, you know, there's not very many reasons you would do something like that.
And then they just downgraded it.
I don't want to get, you know, because it's a long story.
Yeah, the route then is to go around the IG.
I mean, I can't vouch for what you're saying, but I don't know the IG at the Department of War, but then go through an Eli Crane, go through a congressional committee or get stuff directly to Pete Hegseth's office.
That's what I would say.
Yes, sir.
And I appreciate your help.
And if you don't mind, just I'll try to email that all the information I have.
It's a lot of documents.
It's probably like at least 40 documents.
And what's your background?
If you can tell us, kind of, are you former military?
Yes, I'm a former, I'm a former military officer, and I've been working as a defense contractor for about 12 years after I completed my service.
Well, thank you for your service.
Yeah, God bless you.
Thank you for keeping an eye on the ball here with us.
This stuff requires vigilance.
It does.
Because this stuff happens, you know, every year, new contracts get doled out, new go-betweens are getting established.
A lot of them come out of the military.
You know, this world very well.
It's big.
There's a lot of money sloshing around.
It's like that and HHS are the two, the two agencies where so much of this goes on, where it's this revolving door of you're appointed, you're in the admin, and then you go out into the private sector.
You spend a lot of money, and then we're like, well, we must have the strongest military in the world because we spend the most money, right?
Right.
And we can't buy it.
But how much is wasted?
Oh, yeah.
No, I can't build ships.
I think you could get nearly the same outcome out of our military with half that military budget.
I really believe it's that extreme.
Maybe it's maybe 60, 40, 70, 30, but it could be 50.
We're also, this is not really direct military spending, but we're actually on a trajectory where our VA spending might exceed military spending eventually, which is remarkable because the number of veterans is going down.
We don't have the World War II generations.
Yeah, it's interesting.
I know a guy who worked on the VA bill during Trump 1.0.
Lots of stories there.
Next up is Josh.
Josh, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.
Unmute yourself.
Hey, can you guys hear me?
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Hey, Josh.
Hey, I went to Amfest, and that was great.
I want to thank you guys for putting that on.
That was really fun.
I went to all those members' podcasts.
I met Blake, got a picture, so that was great.
Nice.
Those are great, right?
We only have a minute here, but like tell the audience what that's like because it's one thing for me to say.
It's another thing for you.
Well, Amfest was great.
You know, you always hear on like X, everything is so divided, but it really wasn't that bad.
Like, I would talk to some of my friends that I met that were all around my age of 18, and they were just like, you know, I disagree with you, but that's a good point.
And we weren't like, you know, mad at each other.
It was just really friendly.
Yeah.
And the members, you went to the members' podcast.
Tell us about that.
Who did you see us speak with there?
I think I went to every single one except the Korean brothers and Don Jr. because I was you missed out at the Korean brothers one.
Yeah, well, Don Jr. I got the back half of it where they were like messing up their English, which was pretty funny and wholesome.
I thought that was pretty funny.
Don Jr. was a whole thing because we couldn't get anybody up.
The security was so tight because JD Vance was speaking that day.
And so we couldn't get anybody up into the actual podcast room because it was, you know, Secret Service.
We have so many Secret Service stories at these events over the years.
It's been, it's no fun when you're trying to host an event and work with the United States Secret Service.
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And I love doing it.
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And I'm sorry that we couldn't get more people in for the Don Jr. Interview, but again, complicated business with the Secret Service.
But yeah, we had Megan Kelly, we had Ali Beth Stuckey, we had Tom Homan, we had the Korean, the Korean guys that forget the sons, the sons of Sun, Pastor Sun's sons.
We had so many, we had a lot of great conversations, and we'll keep those going for sure.
Josh, welcome back to the show.
What's your question?
So I'm from Minnesota, and I was wondering with all the stuff going on, getting all the people out of here and deported and all that stuff.
Is there any hope for our races getting rid of Waltz and then Ilhan Omar, especially?
Yeah, so Waltz is out, right?
Waltz is with, he's no longer running for re-election.
He's not running for re-election.
There's been some speculation that he might actually dip out of being governor before the end of his term, but we'll see.
I don't know if that's true or not.
There's some speculation around that based off of some of the interesting findings that are being, you know, the threads that are being pulled.
And this goes to show, again, when good things start happening, there can be a domino effect that causes a lot of chaos for the Dems.
And so that's a great, that's a great story.
You have a governor's race right now, as you know, that has a ton of candidates that are running it.
Our friend Mike Lindell is running in it.
Right now, he's not polling at the top.
There were two people who kind of duked it out in 2022 last time.
Jensen, who is who was the nominee last time, Scott Jensen, who's a decent guy, pretty strong.
He had a decent showing, but lost last time to Waltz.
And then another guy named Kendall Qualls, who is a healthcare technology executive.
It's also running that has been polling towards the top.
Yeah, I mean, I'll be honest with you.
The Minnesota Republican situation is a little bit of a disaster because it's not well funded.
Like most Republicans.
It's always been one of the most dysfunctional Republican parties.
It's pretty dysfunctional just in general.
And I'm not saying that as pointed at any particular person, but you have a strong amount of good conservatives in the state of Minnesota.
And then you have a really weak establishment that tries to control everything.
And then they end up just buckling and bending the knee of the Democrats, which has led to a fairly deep blue state that is probably winnable, but at this point.
So I'll just simplify this and say this is that if you don't consolidate around one candidate and push forward, it's really hard because you can't attract the people to drive the votes, like the body.
So you need a turning point action style chase the vote operation in order to win Minnesota.
It's a must.
You have to chase votes to win.
Have you done data on that?
On how many people, low prop voters there are.
We pulled all the data.
And in Minnesota, the numbers aren't good, just straight off the top.
The numbers are not great for Republicans.
What's not great about them?
There's just not enough votes to topple the amount of votes that the Democrats can chase.
So basically what this comes down to is when you look at the map, if the Democrats have far more low propensity votes to chase than we do, if they fund the systems to chase those votes, then you're going to lose.
The second piece, though, is that if you don't consolidate around, and I'll hand it off to you here, Blake, if you don't consolidate around one candidate, then the establishment doesn't do their job in buying the TV, the ads to increase the name ID so that, again, more people who are just your mid to high propensity voters will vote for that guy.
Yeah, no, he also asked about Ilhan Omar.
I'll be frank, we're not getting rid of Ilhan Omar unless we deport her, basically.
Her district is cartoonishly safe.
I think they once had an attempted challenge against her.
They did from another Somali.
Yeah, and she got blown up.
Yeah, exactly.
And so Ilhan Omar is one of those safest, safe, get seats unless we did natural.
Basically, unless she's indicted or deported or denaturalized.
Interestingly enough, this week, Michelle Tafoya, a longtime reporter, got into the Senate race.
We have a couple of other friends who are in the center race as well.
That could be.
Michelle is a name.
Is a name.
She's.
She's like a normie conservative.
I think we get attached sometimes, I think, to these.
I wouldn't assume she's going to win.
I mean, we ran Herschel Walker in Georgia.
Anybody's going to win.
No one's a Sona.
Yeah, nobody's assuming.
I'm just saying she might be a candidate people could rally behind because she's normie.
People know her from her sideline reporting.
She's been in the public space even after she left doing her NFL commentary.
And she's been, she's just normal.
She's just kind of a reasonable, normal person is the electable in Minnesota.
She might be able to attract the number, the amount of money that's needed to stave a serious Senate challenge that could increase the voter turnout for that day.
And again, you have a lot of voters in a state like Minnesota who potentially might split, right?
So that could vote up.
They could vote for a new governor candidate.
I'm saying like a center-left person that's not happy with the way that the state's been run and the Waltz stuff and the findings, where they could vote all Democrats, but then vote for a Republican governor, for example.
We see that happen in a lot of places.
And we see that conversely happen in a lot of places for us.
Like, again, like your Kentucky's, your Kansases, other places.
I mean, I think if we're going to win Minnesota, we just actually have to maximize the fact that Minnesota is horribly messed up.
Waltz dropped out because the Somali fraud scandal, other fraud scandals have actually bubbled up to the point of being something they can't ignore.
Even the New York Times had to come in and admit that it's really real.
So it really is, you could say, a generational opportunity of how badly the state is run while not being so blue that it's effectively unwinnable the way California is.
And so I definitely don't think it's really a shame that we don't have a better Republican Party there because this should be an eminently winnable race.
Every other state near, you know, in that kind of chain of states that resemble Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, all of those states generally moved right in the presidential level.
They were pretty winnable at the state level.
And Minnesota's just been bluer than them.
And it really shouldn't be insofar as there's a lot of really messed up things that their state Democrat Party has done that a lot of people really don't like.
Yet it's been a challenge over and over.
Well, and I would just say you said it, the generational opportunity.
I think that's right.
There was a big story.
I want to make sure we play it.
We have enough time before the break.
A whistleblower out of Minnesota is throwing allegations at Keith Ellison and Tim Waltz, 451.
Whistleblowers told a congressional committee, Minnesota Governor Tim Walz and Attorney General Keith Ellison there ignored warnings for years as millions of dollars and millions were stolen on their watch.
Congress is investigating a long list of massive fraud schemes in the state.
It's hard to keep up.
Prosecutors say it's led to at least $9 billion in fraud dana and counting.
Congress also asking why the attorney general there would meet with a group of Somali fraudsters, which were under FBI investigation in 2021.
The group can be heard in an audio clip given to us by Bach's lawyer offering to donate to his campaign if he can help them get their funding flowing again.
Ellison denies any wrongdoing here.
He slammed Bach in a statement to Fox, calling her a liar and manipulator, adding, now she's on a media tour to deflect her guild onto others instead of finally taking responsibility for this fraud scheme that she ran.
Yeah, so she, that was the Feed Our Futures fraud scheme.
She's in prison, and she's basically saying there's no way they couldn't have known while Keith Ellison was meeting with people that were under FBI investigation at the time.
So we've gone through the Minnesota question.
I believe it's a generational opportunity.
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Not sure if we're going to catch fire and catch momentum there or not, but they're under FBI investigation.
I forgot.
They are under FBI investigation.
Both Jacob Fry and Tim Waltz are under investigation.
I mean, listen, these are bad optics.
However, it's just a ⁇ I think the whole thing is a PR game.
It really is.
So we have another question here.
It's actually from Ian, who is unable to call in, apparently.
He says, I'll read it because you guys will have to answer it.
So this is from Ian.
What are signs that you met someone worth marrying?
Is finding someone that shares conservative and Christian values so rare these days that we should overvalue that with the level of oversaturation, of promiscuity, and perversion that has tarred the dating pool?
How did you know your spouse was right for you?
I know marriage wasn't made to make you happy, but to make us holy.
Also, how have we not found Blake a wife yet?
Thinking face, just kidding.
Love you all.
That's from Ian.
Well, I can't answer that question.
It's not for lack of effort.
I mean, Charlie tried really hard, too.
So, you know, Blake, what is the answer there?
He doesn't want to answer it.
It's fine.
I am a private man.
He's a private man, and he's, you know, listen, he's got standards.
He's got standards.
I would say, you know, all you can do is talk from your personal experience.
And when I met my wife, I will tell you that it was like everything that had been hard in every other relationship was easy all of a sudden.
We wanted to do the same things at the same time.
We shared the same values.
We had the same outlook on what we wanted for our future.
We were able to pray together.
We were able to go to church together.
And here's the other thing.
There was no fighting.
We didn't fight.
Some people will tell you you have to fight and you have to go through these.
It's not like we didn't have disagreements, but we didn't fight.
We weren't at each other's throats all the time.
It was just easy and it was fun.
And I think, you know, there is a sanctification portion of being married.
That's absolutely true.
But for us, it was just all of the things that you kind of assumed were going to be the case with dating and relationships, it just wasn't the case anymore.
We just knew that we fit together.
And when you share values, I mean, here's one thing that I completely agree with with Charlie.
Charlie would say, don't date a Democrat or a progressive if you're a conservative.
You're inviting a ton of conflict into your life, into your relationship that you don't need to have there.
And if you're a Christian, a serious Christian, you should be dating a serious Christian and you should be dating intentionally to get married.
It doesn't mean it can't be fun and exciting and all those good things.
And by the way, it doesn't mean that there aren't exceptions to that rule.
But as a general rule of thumb, date Christians if you're a Christian.
Date a conservative if you're a conservative, especially the way the culture's gone and everything's so much more political these days.
Everything gets brought up in a relationship.
It's going to determine which school you send your kids to, what religion you raise them under.
It's going to determine what kind of shows you watch, what kind of movies you go to as a family.
All of those little mundane things become controversial.
They become rife with conflict if you do not marry people that are on the same page as you.
So when you know, you kind of know, honestly.
And, you know, there's a pastor friend of mine.
It was, it was basically like, find a woman you're attracted to and it'll put up with you.
That was his direction.
I think it's a little bit more complicated than that, but there's a truth in what he was saying.
That, listen, your job as a man, get a job, provide for your family, provide and protect your future children.
Be all of those things.
Be intentional about the way you spend your time.
Be intentional about the way that you pursue your career and try and be a man that's worthy of a great wife.
And hopefully you find a wife that is trying to do the same thing on her end of the equation.
What about you, Tyler?
What about you?
What about me?
What's your advice for somebody?
How do you think you've got the right wife?
I think you have.
I think you, it's, it's, it's one of those things where you have to put yourself in the batter's box and you have to take swings and the right thing happens.
Not all the time, but, you know, some of the time it happens and then it just kind of works its way out.
Like you just got to dating, I think, is just like anything that we deal with on the social scale with political is like when you show up, things start happening.
And I think that's just what life's all about is all those things.
I think most people, and this has no commentary on you, because I don't know your personal dating life, but others of my friends that sometimes they feel like, oh, I'm not finding the right person or whatever.
It's like, well, are you investing enough of the time to be around the people that you want to be around and that you want to try to be around?
And the good news is with Turning Point, there's a lot of those people who show up around our stuff.
And so this is a great place where people meet each other.
We have a lot of turning point babies and a lot of turning point weddings.
And in fact, going to mini this year, I have like a wedding like every other week for the next like three months.
You've kind of aged out of the time where you're supposed to be going to a wedding every month, but at turning point, it's like at turning point, you never get out of it.
Yeah, you never get out of it because everyone's like in their 20s and 30s.
I would say this too.
There's a great expression.
You cannot turn a parked car.
So if you desire to be married and have kids, you got to move forward because then you can sort of, to Tyler's point, you can put yourself in the batter's box.
You can try more things.
You can date more people.
That whole kiss dating goodbye thing that was like a 90s phenomenon, that's garbage.
I think you should date.
The guy who wrote that became is like now non-religious.
Yeah, he's like, he divorced his wife, I believe.
He divorced his wife.
I think so.
I might be mistaken on it.
He definitely is not too Christian anymore.
Yeah, he apologized for writing that.
And I know he's like an atheist now.
But anyways, it took fire and it was like all these people that weren't dating because they wanted to remain pure.
Definitely remain pure.
You are not supposed to be having sex before you're married.
That's an absolute certainty.
There's no budging on that.
We don't budge on that.
But you got to be able to experience somebody and get to know them and understand them.
And, you know, another piece of advice that I think is really good is you date for all seasons.
So, meaning if you're going to get married to somebody, there's no time limit.
There's no rules.
You do you.
But I do think it's important you four seasons.
So you can look at it as spring, winter, summer, fall, or you can look at it as good times and bad.
See them at their worst.
See them at their best.
See them when they're having fun.
See them when they're working hard.
You want to know somebody has character to match.
And here, here's one last thing.
And I say this to the guys out there.
My wife is an amazing mother to our kids.
Amazing.
That was not something I was thinking about as intentionally as I probably should have.
And I got lucky, candidly.
I mean, I knew she had great character.
I knew she was fun.
She had a great disposition, great personality, all of this.
I didn't realize how important that would be when you actually are in the mundane life of just running a household day in, day out, and making sure your kids get to school, making sure they have their lunch boxes full, making sure that they get to their lessons.
Having a wife that you would trust to raise your children, it's a huge, a huge, huge issue.
And I suppose that goes both ways.
I'm thinking about it from a male perspective.
But women, marry a man that you want your children to be like.
I think that's a huge, huge deal.
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And who do you guys think will be in win the Super Bowl?
Well, the Packers.
They definitely can't be in.
No, they won't be there for a while.
They're clearly.
Oh, don't be such a doomer.
No, I mean, we should just set this up by saying, man, it's getting bleak.
I think apparently the bunny who is bad is going to wear a dress and he's going to dedicate the show to queer icons.
I think we have some graphics on this.
What's great about that?
I'll be frank.
I have to chastise conservatives a bit because I'll still, I will run into conservatives to this day who will, one, they'll gloat that the NFL's ratings are in the toilet due to boycotts while admitting they themselves still watch the NFL and all its games.
Are they in the toilet?
No, no, the NFL's ratings are better than ever.
The Wrights attempt to boycott the NFL was a big failure.
The NFL is invincible and unstoppable.
I mean, it's not like Bud Light where we can just literally choose from 48 million other options.
Bud Light was a very special case.
And I'm glad it worked.
But Bud Light was special because it's something that's super fungible.
It's something you mostly, no one's super passionate about Bud Light.
It's like a very passive, you know, you mildly like good.
It's easily replaced by other things.
You mostly consume it socially, so it was really easy to bully people and make fun of them for having the gay beer and all of that.
It's not like that with the NFL.
People are fanatical about it.
It's omnipresent.
There's no alternative football league that's of any noteworthiness.
Or you can go be a soccer fan.
The Canadian Football League with the CFL.
Nobody's watching that.
Three downs.
Unless you're Canadian, nobody's watching that.
Exactly.
No one's even watching it in Canada.
They're kind of in dicey financial statements.
Yeah, it's all of that.
So it's tough.
But it does mean it's, and the NFL is very good at marketing to everyone.
During Floyd de Palooza, they gave Jay-Z total control of the halftime show.
That's how we got here.
That's how we got here.
They just said, Jay-Z, your company, I think Rock Nation is the name of it, you get control of the Super Bowl halftime show.
And he just kind of picks whoever he wants.
And so he's picked these insane anti-American acts.
Yeah, the thing, I mean, Bad Bunny, listen, this is not an anti-Hispanic American thing.
But when Bad Bunny comes out and says, you have four months to learn Spanish, and he's not going to do any of his songs in English.
And now, to add insult to injury, he's going to pay homage to queer icons.
His whole outfits, queer icons.
Bad Bunny plans to use Super Bowl halftime show to honor queer icons.
Plans to wear a dress.
So this is him thumbing his nose at all of you in this audience.
This is not a good guy.
So yes, we are moving forward with the halftime show.
Well, shoot.
With the, yeah, we can say halftime.
We can show that.
I forget the, I forget there's a legalese.
There, all-American halftime show.
So that's, we are moving forward with that on 2-8, 2026.
Tune in on all our socials, all our streamers.
Real America's Voice is going to be taking it.
I think a couple other outlets are going to be taking it.
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People reached out.
So you can watch it.
We're going to have it from, it's going to be a number of acts.
We haven't announced them yet.
We're still making final tweaks on it, actually.
We added a huge name just this week on it.
So we are moving forward.
It's going to be great.
It's going to be All-Americana.
It's going to be Faith, Family, and Freedom.
It's going to be exactly the perfect answer to what's going on with Bad Bunny.
And I wish we didn't have to do it, but we're going to do it.
We have a question from Mick, I believe.
Mick about March for Life.
How are you?
Hey, Mick.
Welcome to the show.
How are you doing?
I'm doing great.
Quick little homage to Charlie.
He was a big part of helping form the views I have today.
You know, going back to middle school.
Met my Aunt L. Coleman in Montana.
Great, great guy.
That's awesome.
God bless you.
My question for you guys: obviously, today is the March for Life.
We heard from Vice President Vance earlier today.
And specifically for you, Tyler, have we had any updates on legislation in some of the red states you guys have been working in on pro-life issues?
Yeah, so this has actually been one, I think, one of the biggest victories in the Trump era is that the pro-life movement has become stronger.
We're in a stronger position because of the president.
There's pressure that people don't see that's actually happening from the Trump administration with executive orders because remember, a lot of governors and a lot of presidents operate on pro-life issues based off executive orders.
So they can ignore laws that have been passed in some cases.
We've seen that with governors and AGs who have done that.
And then we've seen enacting specific executive orders that actually really trounce on some of the pro-life increases that have happened in some of these states.
It's without question, every poll that we've seen has shown that young people are more pro-life than even the millennial generation.
Yeah, Gen Z is definitely more pro-life.
And millennials more than Gen X.
So the question that you have, which is how do we pass more laws?
Well, unfortunately, there's a couple of different things that are happening.
The left is trying to pass constitution changing laws in a lot of places to, you know, after the Roe v. Wade overturn.
Not to get too deeply into this because we only have a few minutes here, but they're trying to pass laws that write into the Constitution of the states to basically put back into place Roe v. Wade.
Those have passed in some states that you would consider maybe lean right overwhelmingly.
Yeah, it was a huge setback.
So the question now at this point is: are there different types of pieces of legislation that can limit the amount of abortion that is completed within your state?
There are.
While giving access up until whatever the constitutional number of weeks that gets passed into those states, I would just say this is that there's been laws that have been passed, like in Florida, and I've been pushed by Texas, Governor DeSantis, Texas, the heartbeat bills that are, I think, the most common sense, best way forward that shift the conversation to the right, where most anyone that you poll talks about when the heartbeat is detectable,
that's when you got to, you have to say there's absolutely no more.
That is far better than a 20-week or six weeks.
It's usually right in the ballpark of four to six weeks.
And so, again, without getting to, because no matter what I say, it will be attacked or it'll go back to spawn.
But I think a great step in the right direction is our heartbeat bills.
We are seeing those get passed in many states, and those have to be in the states that a heartbeat bill has not yet been passed.
I would love to see that.
Now, the argument that most people say and they vote against the heartbeat bills is that's not good enough.
It should be zero abortion.
Again, Charlie would agree with this.
I totally agree with that.
I would love to live in a state that has zero abortion.
However, the problem that happens, like Arizona is a good example of this.
We could have put on the ballot a Harpy bill.
And the Republican legislature decided not to do that because they were afraid that it would not be popular enough or whatever.
Again, like Florida had put on, Texas had done.
And instead, what happened was another constitutional amendment got passed that basically put into place Roe v. Wade style membership.
It's tough.
And one thing we have to confront that Charlie was frank about is conservative abortion views are, they're usually not a majority opinion.
Generally, when we've had an up or down vote on abortion restrictions, it doesn't go great.
We've had some better ones.
In Florida, it went well because they needed 60%.
In South Dakota, I think, is the only one where it's just an up or down, needed 50% vote to repeal a strict abortion law failed.
So that was great.
I was very happy about that.
But it is tough.
We have to, we won in the Supreme Court, and the thing about it is that did not end the battle.
In a sense, it began the battle.
The left had just said, oh, it's actually unconstitutional to really debate abortion seriously.
And once you overturned that, it wasn't abortion suddenly illegal.
It was we're allowed to make the case.
And what we've seen, frankly, is it's sad to say, there's a lot of young women who might go to church and they might say that they said they were pro-life when it wasn't, the stakes were not there.
But once it really was an up or down vote on that right, they turned the other way.
And we've seen that in the polls, that young women have become sharply more pro-abortion in the last three years.
Yeah, and I would say, you know, this question is putting me back, Mick, into that 2024 headspace when, if you'll remember, we were all arguing about whether or not there was this hidden woman vote and Trump was going to get, you know, crushed because of the abortion issue.
The Democrats were trying to make it a huge issue.
They were trying to sneak that like they did in Arizona onto the ballot because they thought, well, if people are going to come out to the polls to vote in favor of abortion, that Trump's going to lose.
The good news is that obviously Trump won.
The abortion topic did not end up sinking his candidacy, and we have Trump 47 now.
So I would say the news is good and bad.
The news is that you can overcome this politically and conservatives need to get a backbone.
I am 100% pro-life in every single conceivable possible way.
So, and it sounds like I join you with that.
And there have been restrictions, whether it's South Carolina, Florida, Tennessee, Texas, Arkansas, Missouri.
Utah's even appropriated money to their pro-life Utah.
So there's broader efforts that are happening.
But to Blake's point, in Kansas, you saw a rejection.
Kansas, you saw a rejection of a pro-life measure.
Kentucky, you saw the, it was 59-41 it lost.
Ohio, 57-43.
These are reliably red states that are declining to pass pro-life ballot measures.
So when you have that kind of dynamic, I think it scared off a lot of conservatives and it's conservative legislature.
If you want to make a gain at this point, one of the most important things you could do is the states that should be going our way and they didn't because they have bad courts.
So we had Wyoming, I think one week ago, Wyoming, their Supreme Court went and said, actually, you have a right to abortion because of this Obamacare law that we passed.
It's healthcare.
Utah also, I believe their Supreme Court is what upheld more liberal abortion regimes.
So if you want, our two best states to pick up are those two by making their state courts actually aligned with what conservative voters believe.
And I think that's our best chance to make some gains.
I'm looking at the map here.
We could probably make improvements in Nebraska.
Oh, another, Nebraska has a law that we need to change to make more conservative.
What a shock.
Missouri, potentially.
That's where we have our best options.
And we hate to give you the incremental answer, Mick, but like to Tyler's earlier point, things like heartbeat laws actually have a good PR spin.
It kind of feels better.
Normie voters who aren't tuned into this stuff all the way, maybe it's easier to vote for that stuff.
Most importantly, it's a step in the right direction.
It's like if you have nothing now, get something on the board and then go more conservative after that.