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Nov. 9, 2025 - The Charlie Kirk Show
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Charlie's Message to Parents and Students on Christian Education

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My name is Charlie Kirk.
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He's obviously the president and founder of Turning Point USA.
Have you heard of it?
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And so please help me welcome a man who's a truth teller, a lover of his family and people, and a man after God's own heart, Charlie Kirk.
Hello, everybody.
Great to see you.
Thank you for that.
First of all, how great was that musical performance?
That was just amazing, wasn't it?
So first, I want to repeat something I said at the pre-event, which is this is such an amazing country we live in.
And only in America could you come to rural Colorado because somebody heard from God that she wanted to spread Jesus in Rwanda and that a bunch of people will show up to go give money for that to go spread the gospel on the other side of the world.
It's just amazing.
When you think about that, it's that the, I mean, like, are the Germans doing that?
Like, probably not.
Like, the Singaporeans, there's something special about this country and special about an idea that we want to make the world a better place.
And fundamentally, Susan, what you've done here is having an amazing impact.
And it's more than just, okay, we're going to go spend money overseas, which honestly doesn't really work long term, to be perfectly honest.
It just doesn't.
What does work is educating thousands of people on fundamental truths and giving them skills?
And then also the most important thing to spread the gospel to a part of the world that desperately needs it.
And so, Susan, you're a firecracker and you're amazing.
So God bless you for your amazing work.
And truly, it's remarkable.
So I'm just going to talk a little bit about Christian education and how critically important it is.
And I was listening to that music and I was thinking to myself, you saw the joy and you saw the spirit.
If you picked eight random kids in the public schools of Denver and put them up against those young kids, and I have no idea their background, I know nothing.
I'm just, you know, just implying that just on the joy of their presentation, that despite probably coming from far less than from Cherry Creek, like a lot less, that there's something that those kids don't.
And that's because, honestly, they have an abundance of riches in the spiritual domain.
It doesn't matter that they come home to a mansion or to a hut.
It does matter in the immediate, but there's something fundamentally missing in American education.
And there's a lot of schools that are changing it.
I spoke at one recently that's doing a great job here in the Colorado, Denver area.
And we have missed the plot on what education is supposed to be.
And we're now seeing the multiple decades of failure of what that actually means.
And what Hope Haven is doing is actually fixing it on the other side of the world because these are going to become world leaders out of this country and out of the Central Africa.
And there's so much untapped potential in Africa, like unbelievable untapped potential in Africa, that I think we're all going to marvel in the next 100 years what actually comes out of Africa in more ways than one.
But let's talk about education.
And so fundamentally, we as Christians should understand that the best investment that we can make is to teach a child of the ways that they will go and they will not depart.
Pretty obvious, pretty simple.
And yet, if we are honest with ourselves, how many times do we as Christians send our kids to public education and just hope the best is going to happen?
Oh, they're going to go to Sunday school.
They'll be just fine.
Understand that the temptations and the menace of the world is going to do everything they possibly can to keep that kid away from the path of a proper biblical education.
And a proper biblical education is the greatest inheritance that you can possibly give a kid.
Bigger than paying for even college, bigger than a yacht, bigger than a trust fund.
To have a kid know the Lord and know why he or she should exist in this world is the greatest possible thing that we can give.
And unfortunately, the modern education system is against all the odds of the Bible.
So, I mean, all the truth claims of the Bible.
We don't have to go.
I was just talking to my very good friend Polly here about the first couple books of Genesis, and she was talking about the profundity of what God established in order.
And in the West here in especially, and I, boy, I hope this doesn't continue to spread because we have a tendency in America to spread our good ideas and our bad ideas.
And I really hope these bad ideas don't spread.
We are living in a moment of cultural chaos.
It's because we've deviated away from every truth claim that God established in just the first couple books of Genesis.
And you think about it, God created what?
He created man and woman.
He created day and night, but he also created separation.
He created distinction.
Our God is a God of order.
And the current modern education system is a force of chaos.
It's a force of confusion away from God's perfect and established order.
Let's just go through some of those distinctions.
The distinction between God and man.
Pretty important.
Everyone here tonight probably believes that there is a God and you are not him.
Pretty important, right?
If you believe those two things, you're a much better citizen and you're not a threat to your fellow man.
But if you believe that there is a no God or if there was a God, it would be him, you're a very dangerous person in more ways than one.
That type of person tries to unnecessarily lock down schools for no good reason whatsoever for two straight years, despite the fact that kids are killing themselves and masking them unnecessarily and closing down schools all in the name of science.
Because that is a godlike tendency.
The distinction between what is good and evil.
It says in the scriptures, woe to those who would call good evil and evil good.
My goodness, do we live in a time where that is plaguing our society right now?
Where they are calling good and calling good evil and evil good.
And by what definition do you mean it is good?
Now, as you know, I visit college campuses, so you don't have to.
And amazingly, I would probably have much more in common, and this is what's so beautiful about Christianity, and it's not about a tribe, it's not about a race, it's not about any of that.
I'll have more in common with a 16-year-old at Hope Haven than a 16-year-old in a public school in Denver.
I want you to think about it, halfway around the world, completely different background, because it's the worldview that matters.
And it's by what standard do you consider to be something good?
One of the most important questions you can imagine.
When I go to these college campuses, they'll say, oh, it's just your opinion of what is good.
Or, there is no absolute truth.
There is no absolute standard by which we measure good and evil.
Well, do you believe that absolutely?
Of course, everyone has a truth claim at some core.
And we as Christians fundamentally believe, no, there of course is absolute truth.
There's absolute truth of you shall not murder, you shall have no other gods before me.
And you have to wonder how many kids in America and even Christian education can recite the Ten Commandments when they're pressed.
I bet the kids at Hope Haven absolutely can.
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And today, I want to point you to their podcast.
It's called Culture in Christianity, the Allen Jackson Podcast.
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He doesn't just discuss the problems.
In every episode, he gives practical things we can do to make a difference.
His guests have incredible expertise and powerful testimonies.
They've been great friends.
And now you can hear from Charlie in his own words.
Each episode will make you recognize the power of your faith and how God can use your life to impact our world today.
The Culture and Christianity podcast is informative and encouraging.
You could find it on YouTube, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Be sure to subscribe so you don't miss any episodes.
Alan Jackson Ministries is working hard to bring biblical truth back into our culture.
You can find out more about Pastor Allen and the ministry at alanjackson.com forward slash Charlie.
The distinctions in the first couple books of Genesis, then separation between man and nature.
It's a very important one.
And this is what's so important about spreading Christianity to Africa and to other countries and not allowing them to go back to pagan roots.
It's very, very important because the pre-ancestral old tribal religions that predated Christianity, you would worship the nature.
You would worship the river.
You would worship the sun.
You would have kind of like a witch doctor that would come in and be involved in some very occult dark practices.
What is the problem with worshiping the earth?
When you start, well, beyond the obvious immediate problems, the moral issue is, well, what moral standard does the river give you?
Do you get what is right or wrong when you worship the tree?
If you have many gods, you have many moralities, definitionally.
This is how Christianity changed the world.
Christianity changed the world because it had an immediate truth claim that there is one God, there is a better way to live, and we all fall short of the glory of God.
And only through his Son, Christ Jesus, are we able to have life eternal.
And that there applies to all people in every culture, in every background.
And you go through those other couple, the first other couple truth claims of the book of Genesis.
One of my favorites, which is what is really interesting because you see these videos, like for example, in Matt Welch's movie, What is a Woman?
He went into parts of Africa and would ask them, like, do you have this trans thing?
And they'd like, look at him, like, what are you talking about?
It's like, only in a Western secular mindset could you believe that men give birth, right?
Like, only is that possible.
And you have to kind of look at it from a Christian perspective.
God created man and woman differently and distinctly, and those distinctions actually keep us free.
Everybody, the failure for us to embrace Christian education in our own country shows what we see what's happening in front of us every single day.
And that's what's so encouraging is to actually bring to a country that is very open to Christianity the idea of worshiping God and following Him in all of our commands.
And then the question, of course, then is begged: What are we Christians supposed to do in our local community?
What are we supposed to do with those around us?
Well, Christ our Lord calls us to be salt and light.
He calls us to change the environment that we come in contact with.
Sudan is doing that.
She's changing Rwanda.
That's a pretty big deal.
All of you supporting this is, and that's like a big deal.
And we, as Christians, are not called just to have the truth and be like, well, that's nice.
I'm not going to share it with other people.
We're called to build more schools, to change our city councils, to flip our school boards, to build better marriages, to make the community more Christ-like, not just have our own little cloistered, you know, club and say, well, you know, Jesus is coming next Thursday, and I'm going to get raptured up pretty soon.
So none of this actually matters.
No, we're supposed to go forward and advance our faith into the most difficult circumstances imaginable.
My mission field, it's not Rwanda, it's University Rutgers.
So it's a little different.
Right?
The point being is we must find the place where we're not always welcome, we're not always celebrated, where it might be a little difficult, it might be a little treacherous, and to go spread the word of God and to spread his truths.
And let me just reiterate this: is that when you fail to have Christian education, this is probably the secondary biggest failing of America.
You might not even believe in Jesus Christ.
You might not even believe in God.
But if you are honest, you have to believe that when a population fails to believe in God, bad things start to happen.
That is, even an honest atheist should agree with that.
And it is the necessity of believing in God.
You see, when a civilization no longer has agreed-upon truth claims and does not look at each other as people made in a mago day or made in the image of God, horrendous actions start to occur.
And not only that, people are going to find other counterfeit religions to try and fill themselves with, to try and fill their world with.
And this is where I hear far too often well-meaning Christian parents will say, Well, I'm a Christian.
Whatever my kid ends up believing is just fine, which drives me nuts when I hear it's like, oh, really?
Okay, Satanism is great.
Yeah, sure.
But more fundamentally, they say, they don't really believe in anything.
They're not religious.
Wrong, there's no such thing.
We all worship something.
Everybody here worships something.
There is no such thing as a secular person.
Worship literally means it comes from the old English worth ship, to worth up, to lift up, the worthy of worship, that of which we elevate.
You think to yourself, well, you know, I don't worship God, but, you know, I'm just kind of going through my life.
Well, then you're probably either worshiping yourself, you're worshiping, you could be worshiping the environment or the planet, you could be worshiping your status, you could be worshiping power.
That is why God says in the first of the Ten Commandments, you shall have no other gods before me.
And what is the great evidence of this?
When God is no longer part of the equation, one of my favorite stories of the Bible, what happens when all of a sudden God gets removed from the Bible?
Our natural inclination is to go back to tribal pagan worship.
I want you to think of the context of what happens right around Exodus 19:20 and 21.
So God's chosen people are delivered out of Egypt, and they see the most miraculous things you can imagine.
The Nile turns to blood, there's locusts, Pharaoh gets completely punked, right?
It's the parting of the Red Sea.
It's the most amazing stuff that you could possibly comprehend.
Manna comes down from heaven.
There's a pillar of fire at night.
Quail gets blown off course.
They see miracle after miracle after miracle after miracle.
So Moses says, all right, you complaining, unruly bunch.
By the way, this is how I know the Bible is true.
No book in the history of ancient civilization has ever depicted themselves as negatively as the Hebrews depict themselves in the Old Testament.
It's how you know the Bible must be true.
We complain and we murder and we commit adultery.
We have a major orgy.
Besides that, you know, who would do that?
Must be true.
You don't make stuff up like that.
You know, in this chapter, we're really going to talk about how, you know, we all dishonored each other.
Of course not.
Anyway, so Moses says to the complaining Hebrews, guys, God's giving me a little transmission.
I'm going to go up to this Mount Sinai.
Try not to catastrophically mess this up.
Gonna be a little while.
God has a message for me.
Aaron, you're in charge.
Goes up to Mount Sinai.
So Aaron, not exactly being the most, let's say, convicted person, they get a little unruly.
And what do they do?
So Moses is getting the most important transmission of God morally that we have since basically the call of Abraham, right?
40 days and 40 nights.
Moses comes back down with both tablets.
Guys, I got it.
Great news, there's 10.
Bad news, adultery stays.
No, I'm kidding.
That's not in there.
So that's totally heretical.
That's not true.
Anyway, so he comes down, and what Aaron is throwing a rave party in front of the golden calf and literally is having an orgy, not an exaggeration, right?
And so he's like, I left you for 40 days and 40 nights, and what do you revert to?
And then probably my favorite, as far as like humorous line of the entire Bible, the Bible is very funny at times if you actually understand the context.
And Aaron's like, listen, here's my excuse, okay?
Yeah, I know we took all the gold that we actually were given by God in Egypt, and I threw it in the fire, and out came a golden calf.
And so, you think about it, it's like the dumbest excuse ever.
I hate when that happens, right?
I just throw gold, and pow, a golden calf pops out.
It's like, that's your excuse.
Moses is so mad, he literally throws the tablets down.
Think about it.
God gave him this transmission, this uploaded moral app, if you will.
And Moses is like, he just gets it from the divine and he just throws it to the ground because he was so let down, so aghast at what we revert back to.
We're honored to be partnering with Alan Jackson Ministries.
And today, I want to point you to their podcast.
It's called Culture in Christianity, the Alan Jackson Podcast.
What makes it unique is Pastor Allen's biblical perspective.
He takes the truth from the Bible and applies it to issues we're facing today.
Gender confusion, abortion, immigration, Doge, Trump in the White House, issues in the church.
He doesn't just discuss the problems.
In every episode, he gives practical things we can do to make a difference.
His guests have incredible expertise and powerful testimonies.
They've been great friends.
And now you can hear from Charlie in his own words.
Each episode will make you recognize the power of your faith and how God can use your life to impact our world today.
The Culture and Christianity podcast is informative and encouraging.
You could find it on YouTube, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Be sure to subscribe so you don't miss any episodes.
Alan Jackson Ministries is working hard to bring biblical truth back into our culture.
You can find out more about Pastor Allen and the ministry at alanjackson.com forward slash Charlie.
Everybody, if we do not have constant moral teaching, we go back to the golden calf, the orgy, and back into the wilderness.
That is a fundamental importance of Christian education.
And it goes even deeper than that.
These are people that saw the greatest miracles imaginable.
These are people that have 40 days, they should have just been praising God, and they're like, no, no, no, build us that calf.
We need something to worship.
And you just, you think back to that, it's not easy to build a society, and it's really hard to develop good people.
And that is the question that we as Christians have kind of failed.
We build really big churches.
We're good at that.
We're really good at organizing parking on Sunday.
Coffee bars at church, amazing.
Right?
The TED Talk with the rock concert, we specialize in that as Protestants.
What we're not so good at, though, and we can be better, is have we done the hard work to develop good people?
By good people, we all fall short of the glory of God, but have we done that hard work?
Sort of, not really.
Susan is, and you guys are in Rwanda.
Because when you develop good people, they actually say, no, actually, we're not going to do that.
Because they have a moral code, and it takes time, and it takes effort, and it takes investment.
And then you have to repeat it, and then you have to continue it.
Because our reversion is to go back to our fleshly state nature of worshiping the sun, the calf, or whatever it is.
And so we look at that moral app that Moses was given.
And we think to ourselves, you shall know their gods before me.
You shall have nor their idols.
They violated all those, like before they got out the gate.
You shall not take the Lord's name in vain.
Different speech for a different time.
Super important.
But for six days you shall work.
The seventh day you shall rest, and you shall keep it holy.
I'm actually writing a book about the Sabbath.
But the fifth one, which is really important, honor your mother and father, so that you live long in the land of which you are in.
And I think to myself, that's another problem with modern education, and I'm sure they're teaching this at Hope Haven.
It's the only commandment that involves a promise and your country.
So if you want to make America great again, which I do, obviously, God tells you how to make your country great.
Have kids honoring their parents.
Honor your mother and father so that you may live long in the land in which I am giving you.
Have we done a good job of telling kids God told you to honor your parents?
We have done a very crummy job of that in our country.
We have a society where, oh, my parents don't know.
My parents don't get it.
Well, because if God did not tell you to do it, that's a very difficult commandment to hold.
And I've heard every excuse.
Outside of abuse, which I understand, there are people that call into my program, my podcast radio show, and they say, I don't honor my parents because I don't like the way they vote.
That's a bad reason, honestly, not to honor your parents.
I don't like them because they're annoying.
Bad reason.
I don't like them because they ask too many questions.
Really bad reason.
Or the reason I get a lot is I don't like them because they're too involved in my life.
Oh, really?
They love you too much.
That's the reason that you don't honor your parents?
And you think about it.
When a society cannot honor their earthly father, why would they honor their heavenly father?
And then we get to the final, the right side of the Ten Commandments, which we all violate almost every single day.
Shall not murder, shall not steal, shall not commit adultery, shall not covet, shall not bear false witness.
And you create this kind of moral context.
We say almost every day we are violating one of these Ten Commandments, and therefore we need Jesus.
In order to teach a savior, a savior-driven theology, you need to actually teach sin.
So I don't know where I'm at on time, but I'll kind of close on this.
Is that okay, Susan?
I could talk for a living so I could talk for quite a while.
But the effort you're supporting is righteous.
It is moral.
It is good.
It is true.
It is amazing.
And the more that we could spread Christianity to the world is honestly the most important thing that we could do.
Because Christian societies will be more moral.
They'll be more humane.
They will be more just.
Because you think about it.
If a society is not rooted in actual interpretation of Christianity, who's to say that the mass killing of people is wrong?
It's just one opinion after the other.
Who's to say that you shouldn't just break yourself into tribalism?
And honestly, we've seen these examples replicate over time and time again.
And I would say, though, that for the American Christian population, I think we have to be a more forthright.
We have to be more willing to share the truth that we know.
And not just that, you know, Jesus is Lord, but also that our standard of living and the way that we want to live is the best.
People want to live here for a reason.
They want to come to America.
And the West was not born out of transgender ideology.
The West was not born out of these radical elements.
Those are now symptoms of a much deeper problem that is occurring and manifesting.
And so we have to ask ourselves a very honest and serious question, which is, what is the role of a Christian in America?
Is it just to kind of sit idly by and hope it gets better?
No, I think it's actually much deeper than that and much more important, which is we should try to change everything around us to be more honoring of God.
Jesus said all the laws of the prophets hang upon these two commandments.
Love the Lord your God with your heart, soul, strength, and mind.
Deuteronomy 6, 3 through 5.
And then finally, love your neighbor as yourself.
Those two things.
One is to honor God and one is to honor neighbor.
He says to be salt and light, to change the environment of the context of the environment that you come in contact with.
And what I see on college campuses is both exhilarating.
In fact, we see more young people, especially young men, that are becoming Christian, that are more conservative, that are seeking truth than ever before, which is an amazing thing.
Simultaneously, there's a lot of trouble.
And the trouble that we see is the outgrowth of a secular worldview.
And we have to be honest.
There will be one winner in this equation.
Either the winner of the equation will be those that love God and love his commands, or those that believe there is no God, and they're going to try to create some other morally contorted worldview.
We are all inheritors of a Christian tradition.
You can go all through Africa and you know that, right?
Countries that are plagued by civil war and strife and division.
The Christian tradition is to care for the least of these, to be charitable, individual rights, freedom of speech, private property rights, borders.
These things all come from a Christian worldview.
And right now we are teasing this idea of cut flowers, where we're going to cut flowers off from its source and we hope the flowers are going to continue to grow.
Well, what is the source?
Honestly, the source is back when our country was founded, Christians prioritized education.
So much so that every single one of the founding fathers was classically Christian educated, every single one of them.
They did not send their kids off to the state and hope that the government would do a good job of educating their kids.
The opposite, actually.
They would take responsibility for it in their local community and in their state.
And so I'm going to keep on spreading this news in the college campuses and the high schools and all the important work that we're doing at Turning Point USA.
And we need to have even more of this work to continue, not just in Colorado, but across the country.
It is a fight for the nation's youth, and we are all involved in it, whether you realize it or not.
You see, the bad guys, whoever we're going to call them, the collectivists or the statists, they've made a 100-year plan to go after our nation's youth, and we as Christians have kind of just shrugged our shoulders.
I'm thrilled that we're doing it in Rwanda.
We need to do even more of it here in our country.
And I'm telling you, there's going to be one kid that comes out of Hope Haven that could end up changing the world.
What is the best thing that you can give to somebody in need?
It's not just to give them a $5, you know, hand-me-up.
It is to give them a biblical-based Christian education that they themselves can become a change maker, that they themselves can become salt and light.
And boy, do we need that now more than ever.
Thank you guys so much, and God bless you, Susan.
Thank you.
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