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Oct. 27, 2025 - The Charlie Kirk Show
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Ask Us Anything 241: A Path Against Mamdani? Boomer Lib Protesters? Stay at Home Moms Getting Involved?

The Charlie Kirk Show staff take an hour of questions live from CK Exclusives subscribers, including:   -Is there a path for Sliwa to beat Zohran Mamdani in the NYC Mayoral race?  -Did anyone under 65 show up at the No Kings protests?  -How can stay-at-home moms get involved in the culture war?    Become an Exclusives subscriber and ask the team a question on-air by going to members.charliekirk.com.Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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And we've also got tons of emails, a ton of emails about halftime.
Like, this is like the number one email topic that we get.
It's like motorhead Patriot.
Please check with Focus on the Family and Dr. Dobson's family talk.
They've had multiple Christian players that were brave enough to share their whole story with the audience.
I'm confident they'd stand on at Super Bowl Sunday.
This is a halftime show.
With the turning point team and Jason Whitlock, you guys could do your own full game coverage and halftime show without ever breaking to the national networks.
What do you think?
That's great.
That's from Josh.
Maggie, I am definitely on board for Charlie's halftime show.
I love that.
They just call it Charlie's halftime show.
In fact, I don't even want to watch the Super Bowl, which I've always enjoyed watching until the past few years when they made it political.
Maybe you can do something before and after the halftime show as well, just brainstorming, but I would rather watch a dog competition or maybe get together some of the top high school football players and they play a game.
Not bad.
This one's from Janet.
It says, as a former San Diego longtime resident and devoted Christ follower, I vote for including Scott Turner in the show.
I'm not familiar with Scott Turner.
Do you know who that is?
Scott Turner, San Diego?
Oh, yeah, yeah, like big famous Scott Turner is that HUD HUD secretary.
Oh, is that?
Oh, HUD.
I just took a picture with him.
Yeah, he's incredible.
Whoops.
I didn't realize.
Yeah, that makes sense.
He's a former athlete.
Scott would be great.
Love Scott.
And his whole team is really great, too.
Have him involved.
We have Burgess Owens.
Yep.
What about Jordan Sparks and Gladys Knight or Sparks and Jennifer Hudson?
This is from Sandra.
Keep the suggestions coming.
Keep the suggestions coming.
I love that idea, like renaming some of this with, and this is something to think about.
We'll talk about this at the team, but you know, like Dick Clark's New Year's.
Oh, yeah.
Charlie Kirk.
Charlie Kirk's Super Bowl Sunday.
I guess we have to worry.
But yeah, the halftime.
Charlie Kirk's halftime.
Super halftime.
All American.
All-American.
Super all-American.
Big sports.
I love that.
And Roger says, there you go.
Keep brainstorming those ideas.
NFL players, maybe baseball, basketball, an all-sports event on the true good and strong and what real patriotism and masculinity looks like.
Steve says everyone will be united in changing the flicking channel on Butt Bunny Saturday.
Okay.
All right.
Sorry, Steve, you're feisty here.
And Paul says, yes, yes, yes, to Jason Whitlock being involved in the halftime show.
Can't wait.
And yes, Andrew, the excellence continues.
Thank you all.
I love it.
Thank you guys.
But we've got so many.
We were just talking with Erica about A.J. McCarron.
Oh, yeah.
A.J. McCarron has been inspired by Charlie Kirk to run for lieutenant governor of Alabama, right?
So you got AJ, you've got Harrison Butker.
You got Brett Favre.
Brett Favre.
Brett Favre and Charlie were close.
Herschel Walker, who's now Ambassador Walker.
Yeah, that's a dude.
There's a lot of sports guys.
Because you know what Jason was talking about is that sports bring out this muscular Christianity, this muscular faith.
You don't have to be a perfect person or believe that you don't even have to be like a Christian, really.
I mean, we want you to come.
There's going to be worship.
We're definitely going to include worship.
There's going to be rock music, country music.
We're going to have a smattering of these genres, but you don't have to be clean as a driven.
No, we want all to come, one and all, and just celebrate the things that make this country great and strong.
That's the whole point.
And we would be remiss to not talk about Antonio Brown, who is Antonio Brown would come.
AB, yeah, have AB, and he brought out Levium Bell, who was out there with us registering voters.
We should do a whole flag football game with all the players.
We could do the softball game.
It could be better than we can't say the term that they use for the all-star game that they use.
The super all-star game.
Yeah, the super all-star game, but we could do our own celebrities, super because everybody hates that all-star game that the NFL runs.
Yeah, we can't.
I don't even know what that is.
I don't know if everybody talks about that.
Yeah, that's often everybody hates that.
We could do our own version of that, too.
Well, let's crawl before we walk.
Maybe that's here, too.
We have Adrian.
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Adrian, what is your question?
Good morning, gentlemen.
Good morning.
Talk to me about this Kings rally.
There's just a bunch of old people, and I say that loosely because I'm on that side of it.
But why are they so unhappy?
They just got a COA adjustment for their Social Security.
The stock market's been great for their whole life, basically.
They own their own homes.
I just don't know what they're so unhappy about.
I mean, listen, are you trying to get me in trouble again with some of our audience members?
I will tell you.
So I just have to take a step back because Charlie used to get infuriated about this.
If he ever said anything about the over 65 crowd, he would just get blown up in the emails.
And it's crazy because the people that watch this show and listen to this show on radio and podcasting, they're the good guys.
They're the ones that get it.
That we love you, obviously.
We love all of you.
And so, but there is a thing of certain older generations where they feel sort of like I'm not being respectful to my elders or that Charlie wasn't being respectful to the other to his elders.
I don't know what it is because, you know, I'm a millennial.
Charlie was a millennial.
And, you know, we have Gen Z all out in the bullpen out here.
And we're used to saying, you know, good and bad things about our generations because all generations are a mix, right?
They have different tendencies, maybe different characteristics generation by generation.
But there is a tendency to want to defend an entire generation when you get above a certain age threshold, let's just say.
And I don't understand that because I have been called all kinds of nasty names my whole life for being a millennial.
And Tyler, you're a millennial as well.
So we both get it.
And by the way, we share those critiques, but that doesn't mean that we share those values.
We're conservatives.
We, you know, we hope more of our millennial brethren and sisters will become conservatives.
Well, what's really weird is that what we've seen is that millennials, when we were younger, acted like what boomers are acting like now.
Oh, you said the word.
I know, but I love boomers.
But here I love boomers.
No, but this is boomers need to embrace this and fix it, right?
Which is that millennials are fixing the problems that we had started.
Gen Z is hot.
We had these highly environmentalist millennials.
We had all of these protest millennials.
Now we're seeing protest boomers.
And that's it's it's a very weird thing because you're exactly right.
Is that everyone that you see that's out at these rallies is like usually an old lady.
I think what it is for the most part.
Yeah, you get and you get this even on the GOP where you're asking for volunteers.
This is what makes turning point turning point action so exceptional is because we'll do these volunteer drives for valid chasing and things like that and we'll get a lot of young people.
So it's visually just a lot of the reporters like, wow, this is a bunch of young people.
But traditionally, you get a lot of older people because they're retired.
They have time on their hands.
They understand life in a bigger way and they understand the stakes that are at play.
But also, you know, I think there is a thing, and you mentioned they've got the cost of living, the stock adjustment on their social security.
The stock market is up.
Like, I think the SP 500 is up 36% since the tariff apocalypse, Adrian.
And so, yeah, their 401ks are looking good.
Their retirements are looking good.
They've got their homes probably all paid off.
And they got time on their hands.
They're retired.
And here's the other thing.
I think that boomers, left-wing hippie boomers, not the ones in this audience, we love you guys, but the hippie boomers, they want to relive the glory days of the 1960s and the civil rights era and the protesting, the marching in the streets, and the burning the bras and the, you know, all the things.
And they believe that the younger generation has lacked that sort of gumption, that inspiration, and they're just excited to get back out there and march against somebody they've been told is evil.
Namely, that's Donald Trump.
He's been called Hitler, a fascist, an authoritarian, a dictator, a racist, all the things.
And they go on Facebook and all their friends reinforce those lies.
And so they think that they have this righteous cause.
And frankly, they're the ones that have all the time.
Meanwhile, the young people can't afford rent.
They can't afford their food.
They're depressed.
They're riddled with anxiety medication.
And they just can't get off the couch because what does it all mean?
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Adrian, does what I said, does that resonate?
Is that kind of where you're going with this?
Or do you have more questions?
No, I think you really answered it.
It's just really disappointing for how much they've been blessed all their lives.
And instead of trying to give back and volunteer, which you talked about, and they do, but to be protesting and calling at the No Kings rally was just really disappointing.
Absolutely disappointing.
Well, I mean, it was, you know, and by the way, you're absolutely right.
But you have, you got to understand their peers are egging them on.
Like, show this picture.
This is George Conway, 92.
And he's wearing a shirt that says, I am Antifa.
And yeah, that's a man.
That is a biological male, despite maybe the confusion that's setting in with our audience.
Because he, by the way, this shows how out of touch he is.
He's never been surrounded by a bunch of black block rioters, antagonists in the streets.
He's never seen that.
He's never been punched in the face or had a cement milkshake thrown at his head like Andy No.
He's never gone face to face with them like Jack Posovic.
Charlie was attacked by Antifa all the time.
And so this is what they're hearing.
I am Antifa.
They think it just means anti-fascist and Trump is a fascist.
Why is Trump a fascist?
Well, they can't ever really explain it.
That's the thing.
I dare any liberal watching this, and there are a few, send us an email, freedom at charliekirk.com.
Explain to me how Trump is a fascist.
Explain to me.
And I will give you 10x the examples back in your face.
I'll explain why you're wrong, first of all, and I'll give you 10x examples back at you of how Joe Biden and the Democrats literally became an authoritarian fascist regime against conservatives.
And it kind of goes back to this example that we have with Letitia James, where she is claiming victim status because she's being prosecuted for mortgage fraud and bank fraud.
And she is the poster child of weaponizing the justice system against her political rivals, namely President Trump.
That's what she ran on.
She is the exact wrong person to be giving this message.
And yet, we saw in those clips, she's got people out in the streets cheering her on, saying, you go, girl, go, Letitia.
And so it's a bit of cognitive dissonance, and it's a bit of reliving the glory days.
They are stuck in a Facebook algorithm where all their buddies are just feeding them slop and AI slop.
And they just want to go back to the bra-burning days when they were the righteous youth and they can still feel it and gives them something to live for.
And that'll be the last point I make: is that they are not probably going to church.
And this is their church.
This is their form of worship because we all have a God-shaped hole in our heart and we want something to fill it.
And if it's not God, it'll be secular humanism or whatever.
Tyler, you have any other thoughts on that really quick?
Just be careful.
Don't poke the bear.
I think you hit it right, which is just like we've seen this, you know, this revival of 60s-style baby boomers who are now bored and agitated, the left-wing and the right-wing baby boomers.
Now, this is their chance to step up and counter that.
That's a great note.
If you're a right-wing baby boomer, which we have some of those in our audience, please don't send me nasty grams on email.
I love you.
We love you guys.
We need you guys to step forward.
We need you guys to get into the breach.
There's a way to explain this, and it's not just baby boomers.
it's gen X. It's, uh, it's my parents.
My parents are, are gen X. Yeah.
They're, they're older gen X. And so they never, they had a lifestyle.
I mean, they came up through the dot-com boom and they made all their money doing that and all of that.
And they're basically becoming retirees.
And they've never had to do any political activism before.
And I know this because, again, my parents were some of these people.
They niched it their whole lives.
They never were actively politically and active politically.
And now they're learning that for the first time.
And so this is the opportunity for those Gen Xers to combat and learn.
And in addition to the baby boomers who are now retired, if you've never done any political activism, you can learn that here with us at Turning Point Action at Turning Point.
You can follow the lead.
You can work with our young people who are doing a really good job at it.
And we're happy to work all together to basically combat all the craziness that we're seeing out of the No Kings rallies.
I totally agree.
And we get a lot of these emails, like, especially in the wake of Charlie's assassination, like we want to start chapters of Turning Point, but we're not students.
We're parents.
We're grandparents.
How do you do that?
We already have them.
It's called coalitions at Turning Point Action.
So if you are not a student, the mission is get involved politically, download the app and start making calls and sending texts.
Brianna, we have Brianna.
Please unmute yourself.
You are now part of the Charlie Kirk show.
Right.
So I go to a Christian law school.
I'm in a lot of Christian circles.
And one of the most common things I find in these circles is the idea of third wayism.
And I'm just curious, what is the best response to that?
Yeah, no, we talked about that with Megan Basham yesterday, actually, just about how pervasive third wayism is.
And it's basically, for those in the audience that need a little brush up on it, it's saying, we don't want to, we're Christians.
We don't want to be left.
We don't want to be right.
We don't want to be divisive.
We're going to go, we're going to just preach the gospel.
And it's a new way of saying an old thing, right?
Because we saw that.
That was essentially what Turning Point or TPOSA faith was launched to combat, right?
Because we saw this in COVID.
There was no third way in COVID.
So this is what happens when tyrannical governments get their way and they say, you're not allowed to meet anymore because we have a pandemic and you're going to spread the pandemic in your church gatherings.
If you do not become political in your theology, politics will become theological.
It will invade your religious space.
And I want to use the Barry Goldwater quote.
This is the perfect opportunity to use the Barry Goldwater quote for this.
Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice.
Say it again.
Slow.
Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice.
So Barry Goldwater was famous for saying this.
And what the background meaning of this, and I'll change in defense of liberty, but let's change it to in the defense of moral liberty and in defense of God and righteousness.
Extremism is the villainization of the defense of all that is good by the left.
So this happens quite frequently in society where they will actually villainize all Christians, right?
We hear this term Christian nationalism now.
They will almost always call you an extremist anytime that you stand up for God, anytime that you stand up for Jesus, anytime that you vocalize your religious beliefs.
That's why we always talk about politics being downstream from culture and your culture is your religious beliefs.
You cannot live in a society where you say, I'm not going to be left or right.
I'm going to just be focused on my faith because, again, your politics come from whatever your faith is.
And your defense of those beliefs is going to always be called extremism.
That's why the embracing, again, this Barry will go water quote: extremism in defense of liberty is no vice, is that we have to stand for what's right, no matter what.
There is no fit setting, and you're always going to be called, you're always going to be called left or right by the opposition, depending upon where you're.
And for us, we're always going to be called super right-wing, super extremist for holding those biblicals.
Those very basic biblical beliefs.
Well, and that's what I would say as well: is that you have to pick a side.
And I'm telling you, the politics will become theological.
Would we have even imagined a few years ago that we would be calling boys, girls, and girls, boys?
Well, this is a real thing.
That is a theological argument because the Bible tells us that he made them male and female.
And that's very binary.
And then all of a sudden, the Academy comes in and says, Well, no, we've defined a few other categories of people.
And by the way, you don't get to choose anymore.
We're going to force this and coerce this upon you and your kids.
And you don't even just have to accept it as a subcategory.
We're going to force your participation in it because we're going to send boys into the girls' locker room and we're going to send boys onto the sports field.
That is a theological argument they are making from a secular position that is invading a moral position and it's invading our politics.
So you may not want to be political.
You may not want to pick a side.
You may not want to be divisive.
But I would challenge those people that are like that.
Do you fear God or do you fear man?
And your point, Andrew, is really good, which is that social justice is at the epicenter of third wayism.
And by your fruits, you shall know them.
What has been the outcome of social justice mentality?
And it's exactly what you just said: which is the end result of this has been putting men in girls' bathrooms.
And it's justifying abortions.
It's justifying divorce.
It's justifying all kinds of societal ills that ultimately peel apart the foundations of our culture and the goodness and the truth and the beauty of our culture one by one by one.
And so if you're not going to pick a side on that, I would just challenge you and say, look at the life that Charlie Kirk lived.
He lived boldly, he confronted evil and he proclaimed the truth and he was killed for it.
And he sparked a revival because he lived fearlessly and boldly.
That's the model.
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I'm going to read some of your emails, then we're going to get to our next person, which is going to be Elizabeth.
So if you're Elizabeth, get ready to go, but I'm going to read some of your emails.
I've got, we're getting flooded, flooded by emails about halftime show and boomers.
Those seem to be the two themes right now.
Cinda says Harrison Butker will not be available for the Super Bowl halftime show.
That is very wishful thinking, but I appreciate that as he will be playing.
But how about micing him up?
Interesting idea.
Creed from Tani, even if you need to hire artists that cover Creed songs, this needs to happen.
Whole Creed Thanksgiving set recreated.
Flying in the air and all.
Big, big, big.
Thank you, Tani.
We are in touch with Scott from Creed.
I will say that much.
April says, I have a suggestion for Charlie's halftime show.
Striper.
I'm sure Michael Sweet would love to be a part of this.
Love you guys.
Miss Miss, Miss Charlie, but you guys are doing such a great job.
I would love to hear a little bit about how you all met Charlie.
Oh, man.
That's, I mean, real quick, you want to give yours?
I've been through it a bunch of times, so people can.
I'll give you the.
Yeah.
I'll give you the opportunity because I don't think people have really heard your story.
Well, you know, we were talking about, I'm really sad about this.
I can't.
It's like I have so many Charlie memories.
I can't fully place the first one.
I remember the first phone call.
And I think the first time I met Charlie was when he traveled through Los Angeles because I was actually working in LA at the time.
And I think we met at this hotel, like at a restaurant, I think.
But anyways, one of the guys I was working with met him at an event in Florida.
And I was working at an agency, a communication shop.
And I ended up, I don't know what it was, actually.
It does stand out for this reason because the guy I was working with said, hey, you should pursue him to become, you know, to make Turning Point a client because I was part of an agency at the time.
And I just kind of doggedly kept emailing him being like, hey, hey.
And he's like, no, not yet.
We don't need this yet.
We don't need this yet.
And then eventually he's like, hey, I'm going to be in LA, I think is what I thought about this because Tyler and I actually talked about this last night.
And I never did that with anybody.
And you got to remember, Charlie was like way smaller than he became.
I think he had like a couple hundred thousand followers on Twitter.
I mean, it was still super very, very early.
I just got really dogged about pursuing Charlie.
And I just kept emailing him.
He's like, okay, he called me.
And then he's like, let's meet in LA.
I'm going to be there like next week.
I think that's how it happened.
And then the rest is history.
And we just kept, we just kept it going, kept building.
Janet says, no whining and complaining.
This boomer loves you.
I am super thankful for Charlie and the whole TPOSA team.
You rock.
Boomers at New No Kings is from Alexander.
Some of these boomers attending the rallies are probably retired and doing this for extra income.
It's a good point.
That's a really good point.
Oh my gosh, there's so many good one.
This is Jenny.
He says, a true Christian must take a biblical stand for truth and morals.
Too many people don't understand the importance of speaking up.
You cannot be lukewarm and be a follower of Christ.
I totally, totally agree.
So let's get to Elizabeth here.
Elizabeth, please unmute yourself.
Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.
Hi, guys.
Thank you so much for taking my call.
Of course.
Also, one more thing before I begin, the shame segment.
You need to make that weekly.
It's the best thing ever.
We will.
Don't worry.
But I like when Mikey's here.
It was Mikey's idea, I think, and Danny's.
And maybe Daisy had something to do with it too, but I love it.
And so Mikey is traveling this week.
But we will be doing that often.
So thank you.
Awesome.
So my question, or maybe more of a comment, is this.
New York City mayorial race.
They had a primary.
Cuomo lost in the primary.
Cuomo has no business being in there.
He murdered 15,000 senior citizens in their nursing homes.
He should be in prison for mass murder along with a few other governors in the blue states.
But I can defend Sleewall.
Everybody was pretending to work at McDonald's.
Donald Trump went to work at a McDonald's on his campaign.
And Curtis Sleewa is actually a McDonald's manager in 1979.
And the reason he started Guardians Angels was because the city was a complete crime-ridden disaster.
He organized groups of people to monitor the subways in groups of eight.
He actually became an international organization.
Mario Cuomo actually endorsed his work back in the late 80s when it was still under Dinkins.
So he has been able to build coalitions.
He has been able to build his organization into something international.
He hasn't murdered 15,000 people.
He's not a communist.
And the biggest lesson we can learn here is voting blue, no matter who, thought you the Democratic socialist party who are communists.
So if they want to save the city, you need to vote Republican.
Yeah, I mean, I don't disagree with your critiques of Andrew Cuomo at all.
I think he's done a terrible job trying to convince Republicans why they should even consider voting for him.
And I mean, that is the trick, right?
And so you've got three players here.
Mom Donnie is winning with immigrants.
He is at 46%-ish, maybe even higher.
He is a slick talker.
And people are just trying to figure out how are you going to keep this communist from becoming the mayor of one of the most important cities in the world in the financial capital of the West, really, along with London.
And so I get why people are confused on this because they look at Sliwa.
He's got 15%.
Cuomo's got 33%.
So they're just kind of like, hey, who can win?
Can anybody win?
And the fact that Cuomo is not going to completely destroy the financial system, he's not good.
I don't agree with him.
And you're totally right.
He handled COVID terribly, and a lot of elderly people died as a result of that.
Would it classify as murder?
I have to look into the details there.
I'm a little foggy on remembering.
But yeah, a lot of people believe that.
He was told don't do it.
And he did.
Thousands of people will die.
He wrote a bill that you can't sue the nursing homes.
And then he positive patients into the nursing homes.
Then they lied about the numbers and they didn't admit to what they did until about June.
And don't forget, he was writing a book for $5 million while he was doing all this.
Yeah, no, I totally agree.
I totally agree.
Cuomo also has a big rap sheet when it comes to sexual assault.
And Sleewa keeps, I mean, in the first debate, at least, Sleewa spent most of his time attacking Andrew Cuomo.
And, you know, I kind of kept going like, well, you guys both need to take Mom Donnie down if you're going to get any progress here.
But I totally agree.
Cuomo has not given enough of a sales pitch to conservatives.
He's given them nothing.
I sort of understand the conundrum.
There's folks online like Mike Cernovich who completely agree with you and are basically saying, I'm never voting for that Democrat.
He's never done anything for me.
He's never done anything for conservatives.
I think the best argument for Cuomo's position is that he's not Mom Donnie.
That is literally the best sales point.
And Mom Donnie is going to be, I mean, he's going to destroy that city in many ways.
And the question is then going to become, can the city ever recover?
And yes, it can.
And I'll tell you how.
Okay.
If we somehow manage to pull a city rally win in New Jersey, hopefully that momentum can go into next year and we can get a Republican governor.
A Republican governor can remove the New York City mayor.
It takes some wiggle-waggling and some legal, but it can be done.
I mean, good luck in a state that's controlled.
I mean, yeah, you might have the governor's mansion, but you're not necessarily going to have anything else besides that.
And so it's always going to be tricky.
I mean, if you don't have the legislature and you don't have the judges, and I mean, you don't have the city council.
They don't need a legislature.
They can do it themselves.
They just need to go through a legal process.
All right.
Well, I mean, that's interesting.
You know more about that than I do.
It sounds like you're a proud New Yorker or maybe you're in Jersey.
I don't know.
Where are you based, Adam?
I would say I'm a New Yorker, but not proud.
And I would also, he murdered my dad in his nursing home.
We were denied funerals.
We were denied goodbyes.
I didn't tell you.
Thank you.
They did the same exact thing in Pennsylvania.
Remember that Rachel Levine, Admiral Health official in the federal city.
You know, they did the same thing in Pennsylvania.
Yeah, Dick Levine took his mother out of the nursing home and put her in a hotel the day before they put positive, COVID-positive patients in nursing homes there.
And their death toll was something like 9,000.
This went across four states of mass murder.
The DOJ really need to do something about this.
I love that you're getting into this and you're reminding us of it, Elizabeth, because there are so many things that happened during COVID that are wrong morally on so many levels, and they probably are wrong legally.
And so listen, I would love for Sleewa to win.
I don't think he's necessarily a very compelling candidate when it comes to speaking and just galvanizing people.
He's polling really low.
I wish Donald Trump can send Andrew Giuliani there to help him.
Well, good.
No, and I wish for the best for Sleewa.
He's certainly the best choice of the three.
Godspeed to our friends in New York.
But something's got to give, or you got Mom Donnie.
That's the choice.
That's the truth.
Thank you so much.
We've got to go to David.
David, next.
Thank you very much for doing what you're doing.
Sorry for your loss.
Thank you.
We're in Southern California.
And we, you know, piggybacking off what the other lady was saying, our legislature does not listen to the people.
And we're trying to figure out how to remove our legislature and educate our masses in California.
Well, you got that Prop 50 going on in California, too.
Yes.
Which, you know, they're trying to redraw the lines to basically fight Texas and maybe Indiana, although Indiana is a whole other story.
And they're doing it.
It has nothing to do with Texas.
Of course.
But yeah, that's their justification that they're doing it because we're tyrants and we're trying to redistrict midstream in between census.
But by the way, the census was completely botched, which is a whole other, I mean, it's a completely rigged census during COVID.
It is illegitimate and should be redrawn.
We would get like 10 to 12, maybe even more congressional seats.
I was just reviewing the numbers.
I want to make this super, super clear for everyone.
I was just reviewing the numbers this morning.
The latest projections are that the Democrats are going to probably lose upwards of 15, 16 seats in Congress if they redid the census in the next census.
So redoing the census earlier means that they're going to lose at least almost a majority of those.
So, because what Andrew just said is exactly right.
The census in 2020 was so manipulated, so botched, so intentionally drug.
Nobody was paying attention.
Everyone was running around like chickens with their heads cut off because of COVID, worried about their family.
Like this poor lady that just got off the phone with us, that she was losing her family members that they couldn't even let her see.
She couldn't say goodbye.
Nobody was paying attention to these leftist operators who were trying to manipulate the congressional apportionment.
This is really bad for Democrats.
And so they have to almost do this right now in California to try to get ahead of how bad it's going to be ahead of 2030.
It just seems like our legislature and most legislatures, we don't know who the authors are.
We don't know who their names are.
And they seem to hide behind their bad bills.
So I'm trying to find out.
So I'm trying to put together this person who wrote this bad bill so we can educate the people who these idiots are.
Oh, I'm sorry.
I called them idiots.
I mean, I think that's a fine word to use.
They are idiots.
But, you know, one of the publications I follow is California Globe.
And then there are other good grassroots resources, and they tend to be issue by issue in California.
So if it's the gender stuff, there's going to be activists that are working on that.
Jack Hibbs is another good resource for you.
And he puts out voter guides.
But by the way, when you're talking about just authorship of bills, they do have to include an author on the bill still, even at the state level.
So I know that because we were tracking down some of that with the recent bill that was making its way through the California Assembly, and that was the bill where they basically you could assign somebody to come pick up your kid if your parents got detained by ICE.
But it essentially left the door open for people to get there, have their kids kidnapped.
I mean, it was basically unenforceable the way it was.
Jack Hibbs got really on that.
Yeah, and that exactly.
And so that was a bill that had an author.
We did a whole segment on who that author was.
And she was a far-left radical.
But just in terms of responsiveness, I mean, it is a tough road of hope for you guys in California because you are, this is just, it's a self-selecting process in a lot of ways.
So, you know, what happens is, and you see this in different professions like teaching, you see it in journalism, you see it in politics, especially left-wing, far-left radical politics, where they self-select themselves into these activist professions.
Whereas conservatives tend to build their business, build their family, build their church, build their community.
Radical leftists like to get into the teaching profession.
They like to get into the journalist profession.
They like to get into the political profession because that is their God.
That is their church.
That is their reason for being.
And so you have, especially in places like the Bay Area, these are radical, radical activists that get into politics by getting in at the lowest levels.
They rise through the ranks, and the most radical ones win.
And then they put a sheen of legitimacy on them and moderation before they announce.
They scrub their socials and then they come out and you're like, oh, well, this person is really buttoned up and it's good.
They do not care what a conservative in Southern California thinks about them if they are a radical leftist from the Bay Area.
They just simply don't.
And so it's just getting more and more and more radical in places like California.
But the grassroots is rising up.
There is hope.
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Hey, guys.
Thanks for all your work.
Thank you.
The U.S. naturalization oath, which prospective citizens are legally required to swear by, also requires an applicant, among other points, to agree.
I hereby declare on oath that I absolutely entirely renounce all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty, all of which have heretofore been subject to.
So I have two questions here.
If you could relate it to this, guys, could you comment on these?
Number one, is it accurate to say that an honest Muslim applicant could not take this oath and therefore could not become a citizen?
That's my first question.
And the follow-up, does this renunciation of fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty apply to Catholic allegiance to the Pope or the Catholic Church?
No, I would say, let me answer your second one first.
So the Bible is very clear.
It says, render unto Caesar what is Caesar's.
And so baked into the Catholic faith is an understanding that we have earthly powers and principalities, earthly powers.
Let's not get into principalities.
So we have earthly powers that are set up that God has established the rulers of this world.
And so there is not a moral issue or a conflict with honoring your national sovereign as well as your heavenly sovereign, which is Jesus and God the Father.
That being said, we have examples in the New Testament, especially the book of Acts, where the apostles are asked to do things that are contrary to their faith, and those can cause conflicts.
That's why it's important for Christians to be involved in the public spaces and in your government, your local school boards, all those things, because if good, godly men and women are leading your culture and your society and your government, then you are going to avoid those conflicts.
You're going to avoid issues like religious freedom conflicts that come up and that end up getting litigated in the courts when bad decisions are made by bad leaders.
And so, no, if Christians, we should flood the public square.
We should get in positions of power and influence so that those conflicts do not arise.
And there are instances in the New Testament, like I said in the book of Acts, that mean we have to then defy the authorities.
And sometimes you will be thrown in prison.
This is why the scripture said, visit your brothers who are in prison, right?
So, yeah, there is no issue on number two.
Now, if you're asking about an honest Muslim, I would say, yeah, guess what?
You know what's an interesting thing is the Muslims have to pray five times a day to the east, to Mecca.
And they are basically saying that their allegiance is to Mecca, and they are a conquering force.
It is a conquering religion.
It is a political religion.
And so I would say an honest Muslim is going to have a very difficult time claiming allegiance to a country that is not predominantly Muslim, which is why I always say there are 50 Muslim majority plus, there's more than 50, Muslim-majority countries in the world.
If you want to move and you're a Muslim, you want to immigrate somewhere, don't do it to the West because you are basically picking a fight with the West every time you do that.
Now, I can understand if there's a small minority that are doing it for some sort of job or whatever.
But this mass invasion into the West, you get this Dearborns, these epic cities, you get to see London.
I believe that you cannot do both.
I'm going to get to one more question here.
Thank you so much, Bob.
Can it be codified?
Well, that's going to take a lot more political courage than we currently have, Bob.
But at the state level, they're getting rid of the, you know, Tuberville's got this anti-Sharia law bill and many, many other things.
So, yeah, it's going to be tough, Bob.
I'm not going to lie.
It takes too much political courage.
We don't have it right now, but I'm with you 1,000%.
I think we can deal with the immigration part of it before we can deal with the codification of a naturalization situation.
I agree with you what you're saying about Christians being involved.
Is there a difference there with Catholics and the Pope?
Yes, there is.
Yes, yes, there is.
I tried to explain that.
I want to get to Natalie, Bob.
I'm so sorry, but you go ahead.
Natalie, what's your question?
Thank you, Bob.
Natalie, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.
Hey, guys.
Thank you so much.
So I'm a mom of four boys, and they're between the ages of seven and 15.
And I used to own a gym, and we were business owners, and then that got shut down during COVID.
And so I became a stay-at-home mom.
So I've been a stay-at-home mom for several years now.
So, I just wanted to know what advice you have for moms kind of in this stage of life where their kids are getting a little older.
Obviously, I have a drive to do more outside of the home.
So, I'm super involved in the kids' school.
I run the PTSO.
We have a nonprofit for youth tackle, but I would love to just hear what you guys have for moms in this stage of life.
This feels like a Tyler question.
Natalie, I mean, it's a great question.
There's a couple of things that you can do right away.
Number one is have an eye focused on how you want to contribute yourself personally to civic engagement.
Meaning, are you willing to run for office?
Are you willing to get involved with the local party?
The Republican Party in most places is in desperate need of normal, sane people who work really hard and care about their kids.
And so, getting involved there, becoming a precinct leader, a precinct captain, if you're not already, we always encourage that.
It's a little bit of a catch-22 situation because we want people to get involved, but we also don't want people to get overly absorbed and kind of upset because the party can sometimes be a disaster where you're at.
That's why I say run for potentially run for office.
But at turning point action, we will get you involved with our coalitions.
I don't know what you're saying.
What state are you in?
I'm in Arizona.
Oh, you're here in Arizona?
Perfect.
Here in Arizona at coalitions.com, if you sign up, you can be part of our mom's coalition and help organize.
And that's a really nice thing because it's flexibility.
You don't have to dedicate dozens of hours every month to be part of that.
You can dedicate a few hours here and there to be involved locally.
But that across the state will help kind of develop that network that helps you organize ahead of the next election.
Yeah, you know, what's crazy too is, Natalie, that when I have done like local GOP stuff, you will be shocked at just how dysfunctional a lot of it is.
And I remember calling Tyler after a certain meeting, I was like, Whoa, this happened, this happened, they were all fighting.
And he was like, Oh, yeah, that's every single one.
So, normal, sane people, if you're going to step in on a local GOP level, it's so important.
What I just said is not an excuse not to do it.
It's a reason to do it.
So, if you're normal and you're sane and you have people skills, they need you.
They need you.
And especially if you're listening to shows like this and you're listening to guys like Tyler about turning point action, how to connect those local GOP levels to a larger network to get people all swimming in the same direction.
And we can get you resources.
We can get you the app.
We can train you up on this stuff.
Then it starts becoming really powerful.
And so, and to your to Tyler's other point where he's saying, Are you willing to run for office?
Are you willing to run for school board?
These kind of things.
Your kids will look at you as the example and they will see the life that you're living and the example you're leading and showing them, and they will follow.
Faith and political activism is caught, not taught.
So, let me say that again: faith in Jesus, faith in your God, the way you love your husband, whatever it is, or your political activism is caught, not taught.
So, you could tell them to do all the right things, and they'll just, it'll go in one ear and out the other.
But if you show them and you model that for them, then your sons will emulate your behavior.
They will emulate the model that you present for them.
So, I would just encourage you to just do it.
Don't let perfect be the reason you don't start with the good, right?
Don't let perfect be the enemy of the good.
So, so just start, start somewhere, just get going now.
Well, and I have a question for you, Natalie.
What interests you the most in politics?
Oh, gosh.
I'm probably one of the least political people you'll meet.
So, I am like a baby when it comes to politics, which I think is kind of like on the flip side, a beautiful thing, right?
Because I don't know the ins and outs, and I just am a good human, a Christian woman.
So, yeah, I don't know how really to answer that question.
Yeah, I mean, a lot of people feel that way, right?
And that's actually most of the people that we engage are people who don't feel like they're overly political, but listen and they follow and they love and care about their kids, and they love and care about their community and seeing the things that happen around them, particularly at school and in schools.
Because, again, I don't know where you're, if you mentioned this, where your kids are in school right now.
Are they in public charter?
Yeah, they're in public school.
Okay, public.
Yeah, they're public, which we actually love because we, you know, there's arguments to all of it, but we feel that we have such a strong home that we can take that out into the public schools and be good examples.
Well, if God's calling you that, God bless you.
Well, and again, it's different for everybody.
So there's sometimes there's not options, and sometimes there's you're going to have a great public school experience because the community, and this goes back to what you were saying, which is that the party, your community is whoever shows up.
So, like, it's like a real party.
Sometimes you can have a weird, funky party with bad music and bad food because good people show up with great music and great food.
And so, you know, that's the same with your community aspects.
So, whether it's public school or charter schools, because they're, you know, pseudo-public in Arizona, and then with the actual party, so the Republican Party, being involved and showing up is so important.
So, I really, I'm my oldest in public school.
And, you know, we've been horrified, even at a fairly conservative public school, some of the things that have happened at that public school, including hanging pride flags in classrooms and, you know, some of the things that teachers have said or telling kids to flip their freedom shirts inside out or whatever it might be.
So, being involved at that level is really a way to start being really super political.
I can tell you this: we need better school board members at every public school board.
And so, getting involved and spending just a few hours every month attending their meetings and giving some support to the conservative members on that school board and then considering running at some point may be a calling for you.
That I think is really important.
And that's for everyone across the country: is that we need better parents stepping up to run for school board.
Well, and by the way, you have a 13-year-old, so we're not in middle schools yet, but your 13-year-old is probably going to be in high school next year.
Is that right?
Freshman in high school?
Yeah, so actually, I do.
I have one in high school, he's a freshman.
Oh, perfect.
Well, so make sure there's a turning point chapter there.
And if there isn't, then help your son start it.
Be great.
Okay.
Yeah, that would be another good thing.
And you'll get connected to our whole national network on the TPUSA side.
So I know, but here's my last thing I'll leave you, and we'll wrap up the show with this.
Do not let decision paralysis, analysis paralysis of what's the best thing to do set in and keep you from doing anything.
Just step forward.
Try the first thing.
You cannot turn a parked car.
You can only turn a moving car.
So get moving, pick a route.
It may or may not be great.
If it's not, pick the next thing, try the next thing.
Eventually, you're going to find the thing that works and suits you.
And you're going to find a lot of purpose in that.
And your sons are going to watch a great example and have a great role model for how to make their communities a better place.
Awesome.
Thank you guys so much.
Thanks, Natalie.
All right.
God bless you.
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