The Charlie Kirk Show - THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 101 — The New York City Communist Debate? MAGA vs. Mamdani? Medal of Freedom Reactions

Oct. 18, 2025 - The Charlie Kirk Show

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THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 101 — The New York City Communist Debate? MAGA vs. Mamdani? Medal of Freedom Reactions

Andrew Kolvet, Jack Posobiec, Mikey McCoy, Tyler Bowyer, and Cliff Maloney reflect on the Charlie Kirk Medal of Freedom ceremony and react to the New York City Mayoral debate. Watch every episode ad-free on members.charliekirk.com!    Get new merch at charliekirkstore.com!Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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	My name is Charlie Kirk.
	I run the largest pro-American student organization in the country fighting for the future of our republic.
	My call is to fight evil and to proclaim truth.
	If the most important thing for you is just feeling good, you're gonna end up miserable.
	But if the most important thing is doing good, you'll end up purposeful.
	College is a scam, everybody.
	You gotta stop sending your kids to college.
	You should get married as young as possible and have as many kids as possible.
	Go start a turning point.
	You would say college chapter.
	Go start a turning point.
	You'll say high school chapter.
	Go find out how your church can get involved.
	Sign up and become an activist.
	I gave my life to the Lord in fifth grade.
	Most important decision I ever made in my life.
	And I encourage you to do the same.
	Here I am, Lord Museme.
	Buckle up, everybody.
	Here we go.
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	Hey everybody, we got Jack Pasobic and Andrew Colbitt.
	And we are here live in studio for once for Thought Crime Thursday.
	What's up, Andrew?
	Not much.
	Actually, a lot.
	A lot.
	A little bit.
	But I feel like that's what you say.
	It is what you say.
	But I love I actually love Thought Crime because now that I have to sort of play uh play driver for the Charlie Kirk show, it's nice because you you do this.
	Because I have to do it, yeah, exactly.
	No, but well, well, today tonight there's gonna be a ton of thought crimes because what we're gonna be doing tonight is the Mam Dani debate is coming up, and we all know how much Charlie was a huge fan of Mandami nomics, and Mandamism, and he just was was so you know, so enthralled with the idea that this uh race communist cultural Marxist was about to take over the city of New York.
	And obviously we're joking, but you know, tonight is the big debate, and we've got a three-way debate.
	So, what we're gonna do, no, Andrew's got a flight, so we wanted to come on a little bit, have a chat with him, preview the debate, then at some point he's gonna bounce.
	We're gonna stream the debate, so don't turn off this stream.
	We will carry the debate in full.
	And yes, I will make sure that Blake does not come on and interrupt.
	Unfortunately, we actually don't have Blake because Blake is on Blake is on assignments.
	Well, hold on.
	Actually, Blake's assignment is pretty cool.
	He has a family member getting taking the vows.
	Uh, she's gonna become a nun.
	She's gonna become a nun.
	Which is um like so cool.
	And Blake, so this was like Blake months ago was like, hey, you know, I gotta go to Italy for because you know, family members taking the vows, and I was like, Okay, so we're just full doxing him.
	All right.
	I was like, I was I was like, just go for it, bro.
	Just go for it.
	Just go.
	And then everything happened, and he was like, And it was still, you know, pre-scheduled.
	Yeah, yeah, I still want to go.
	And I was like, I still want you to go.
	So please go.
	And then, you know.
	So there's a chance that Blake might be joining a nunnery.
	We're not entirely sure.
	Yeah, because this audience is completely failed to get him married up.
	So we've tried Freedom at Charlie Kirk.com.
	Please send your uh your dating uh there's been some false starts.
	Also, please send your Super Bowl halftime requests, freedom at Charliekirk.com.
	I know a lot of people have been sending in emails all throughout the week, and we've seen some very, very interesting requests.
	But again, we are we're accepting those requests with arms wide open.
	And all I can say is hold me now because the news is coming.
	And you know, I just heard the news today, as a matter of fact.
	So, you know, we're really gonna be we're really excited, we're really looking forward to the event.
	Jack has zero opinions on the opinions whatsoever.
	Who should be teaching it?
	Just you know, cultural relevance and uh and uh, you know, incredibly popular acts with with you know international renown.
	But you know, no, whatever, whatever.
	We can pick whoever.
	It's no, it's no big deal.
	And and look, like all I'm saying is if you want the event to be taken higher, if you want this event.
	Okay, all right.
	All right.
	How do you end the uh the hit list?
	Are we gonna go here?
	All the way uh is this the this is the greatest hits.
	Jack uh we could go, we could go six feet from the edge if you want.
	It's not that far down.
	Oh my goodness.
	Jack.
	I'm gonna I'm gonna get you a playlist with some other acts on it.
	Just just so you could branch out a little bit, actually.
	But so we're so we're gonna do that.
	We're gonna show it.
	Um, but and then Tyler's gonna join us.
	Tyler is at a thing right now.
	He's gonna come in later.
	He's on assignments.
	We are making this work.
	We're gonna make it all work.
	We're making this work.
	I gotta catch a flight.
	Tyler's traveling around the world trying to uh uh orchestrate our 2026 uh turning point action plan.
	So God bless him for that.
	And but we also were gonna talk about uh the Medal of Freedom ceremony because we really haven't done that together.
	No, but we do also have a special guest joining us.
	I believe we have him, believe we have him coming in remote.
	We have Cliff Maloney.
	Guys, do we have Cliff?
	Howdy how's up, man.
	There he is.
	I don't know where we're supposed to be looking.
	The great Cliff Maloney.
	You can look right there.
	No, but I feel like if I'm looking there, it's the wrong spot.
	Well, I don't know.
	You're right.
	I'm here.
	Yeah, I'm here.
	Yeah, I'm over here.
	So, Cliff, you you um, you know, you were with us on election night.
	You know, you've been with us through thick and thin.
	Uh, you've got the hat on of the greatest football team in American history, of course, the Philippines.
	You're off two weeks, yes.
	Super Bowl, Super Bowl champions.
	You know, they we're we're giving some other teams, you know, a chance here.
	Megan Kelly, by the way, was roasting me yesterday for that loss to the Giants.
	And I was just it was it was very painful.
	It was very painful.
	And then Andrew was roasting us because we what the three three teams in one night.
	Well, it was, yeah, you guys had the the clean sweep and the Dodgers won the series three.
	Andrew's Dodgers won the series three to one.
	And now we're up to two to nothing on the Brewers.
	And by the way, I want everybody to know out of respect for Charlie, had the Cubs overcome the Brewers and faced off with the Dodgers.
	I would have, I would have for Charlie, I would have been a Cubs fan for one NLCS.
	See, I might, I might actually be rooting for the Dodgers now because my dad used to always say that if you got beat, then you might as well say, Well, we got beaten by the champs.
	That's it's right.
	So we got beaten by the best.
	So I'm uh, but I'm not, I'm not, I'm not sold on that yet.
	But no, you know, and Cliff, you know, you got to see the ceremony and and let actually do you want to ask Cliff about it?
	Because he was he was watching it from afar.
	Oh, I love that.
	I actually, this whole experience, Cliff, the of the last month, and I I was used to seeing Charlie be in the media.
	I would book the interviews, I would, you know, we'd work on how we're gonna approach the interviews and the debates or whatever.
	And but it was still hard for me to calibrate because I was still so close to it, like you know, how famous Charlie was, how people were reacting to it.
	It was always hard.
	So I actually really think outside perspective, somebody that's that was watching on TV is truly important.
	So, to your to your point, Jack, Cliff, what was it like watching it uh, you know, from afar?
	Yeah, well, obviously, you know, I'm focused on Pennsylvania and New Jersey.
	Uh, and this is the heat of the moment in terms of us uh, you know, diving in there, and so didn't get a chance to get to DC.
	You know, what was fascinating to me, uh honestly, the the thing that stands out is kind of how Trump interacts with Erica.
	Um, and I mean that, you know, in a very good way.
	I just mean that you know, you you you hear all the time from the media and from a lot of people on the left that Donald Trump is this evil human being and just you know, completely just corrupt or whatever they say, all these these buzzwords, and then seeing him interact with Erica, you know, to me kind of brings out the grandfather in him.
	Um just just very delicate and somber and sweet and connects with her.
	And I just I mean, that obviously, you know, I I just love seeing that side of him, right?
	Because a lot of us want him to be a fighter.
	We want him to go against the deep state.
	We want him to be this America first warrior.
	I mean, the guy took a bullet uh on the ear for us, but to see that side of him, I think just kind of brings out it just makes him kind of a whole person to me.
	Um, and then obviously, you know, with the ceremony, I think Erica's speech.
	I don't want to uh, you know, say it topped the memorial or it topped her speech from the studio.
	Um but I just think that you know it's it's such a great message um of her just talking about, you know, where are we going from here and her referencing the turning point chapters?
	I mean, that you know, from afar, that struck me because she's caring about the people that Charlie would have cared about, which are you know, not the people at the top, right?
	It's an inverted pyramid.
	It's how I always look at this thing, right?
	We're way at the bottom, and the people that are closest to the voters, the people that are closest to changing hearts and minds are the door knockers, are the activists, are the students on campus.
	And for her to reference that, that just really to me uh talks about you know, what is the future for turning point and what do things look like?
	Um I just thought the whole ceremony was fantastic.
	Um, a great tribute to Charlie Kirk.
	And uh, you know, it just reinforced.
	We got to do the work and we got to move forward from here.
	No, that that's great.
	And and Andrew, I know so we were, you know, there in the Rose Garden, and I know there was that moment, it was kind of surreal, and and you turned to me and and you you took this picture that is now gone viral, and you pointed out it's like all of the legends of conservative media, the people that like we watched, and even the people that we watched when we were younger, uh, were all standing together.
	And in even in addition to the entire government being there, but this this photo, it was remind me who it was.
	It was so we had Bill O'Reilly, which he never comes to stop.
	Do we have that picture?
	I'll grab it.
	He's there, and it's and Megan Kelly's there.
	And I don't know if we got all of them in you know, one picture together, but we did we got most, I think.
	Hannity, uh Jesse Waters, and Tucker, Tucker, Laura Ingram, Laura Ingram.
	Yeah, it was sort of like the past and present of the Fox uh lineup, which was noteworthy in the sense that you know, I don't think I've ever seen them photographed together.
	I really don't think so.
	Here, I'm gonna I'll put it in the the chat here.
	Well, and you think of all like the you know, the ups and downs and the back and forth of uh the schedule and oh and Glenn Beck.
	Glenn Black was there.
	Yeah, I didn't get Glenn in that picture, but uh what what happened was that it was basically Jesse, Bill, Tucker, and Laura all standing next to us in the back, because there's you know, assigned seats, and then there's and then there's people standing, and and you you'd be surprised the the caliber of people that were standing, right?
	Right, and we're just we're standing right next, and then you know, all of a sudden Sean Hannity walks back, uh, I think to give a hug to Laura or something, and uh he turned around, we snapped the picture, and it was quite the moment.
	It really was.
	But there was also, you know, it there Glenn Beck was was uh around, and then we had a picture uh with Blake, you, me, uh Benny, Johnson, the crew, and I guess that picture sort of went viral too a little bit.
	But you know, there's something about the conservative media being there, showing up, and it speaks to the role Charlie played in that because Charlie was such a fan of Rush, and Rush had also received the presidential medal of freedom.
	And so there was this this interesting symmetry, this interesting parallel of like the generations of you know, so Rush is the first.
	I I used to think about this.
	Like he was the pioneer of conservative media that wouldn't exist without it.
	I used to think about this all the time that what made Charlie uh very exceptional just in the media landscape was that he was a bridge of generations as well.
	Even though he, you know, 31 years old, he had become very close with Rush.
	Rush, you know, was a seven-figure donor to turning point, he believed in Charlie.
	But you know, Charlie was also close with Sean Hannity, and he was also close with Mark Levin, and he was also close with Glenn Beck.
	And these, so these are the people that he grew up listening to, and then we became close with, and they were all sort of excited to hand the baton to him and let him carry on the mission and expand the mission, grow the mission.
	And so Charlie was uniquely positioned that way.
	And you could see the same thing with Fox.
	Like, who else could bring together these people uh from Fox News that you know had you know interesting exit stories from the the network?
	Uh he's being so diplomatic.
	He spends four days in DC and he turns into a politician.
	Well, I'm trying to be diplomatic because anybody that was willing to make the time to go to the Rose Garden and honor Charlie.
	Deserves my respect, and I'm going to be respectful.
	Well, and Charlie, I mean, but just so we're clear, I ended up on a stage with Bill O'Reilly later that or last night and getting lectured about JFK sending in the National Guard in 1963.
	And you know, it was it was very fascinating.
	Uh I was like, you know, I appreciate Bill that you might have a little bit more historical or historical uh uh understanding about what happened in 1963.
	But I I think maybe I have a little bit better understanding what happened in 2023.
	Oh snap.
	Oh, snap.
	It's doing it.
	No, no, but but no, Charlie was it's as simple as this.
	Charlie was the bridge.
	He was the bridge, Charlie was the bridge.
	He brought people together that otherwise wouldn't be together.
	And you saw that on full display.
	I mean, you not just from a media standpoint, it was it was also from a you know who we missed who we should have gotten that picture?
	Megan Kelly.
	No, that I because you know what it was though, because she was standing on the other side, and I know, but I should have grabbed the honor guard was like in between us.
	So it was it was sort of no, we should have grabbed her, and we saw her later, obviously, and she was great and she was a gracious, but it was there was this military honor guard that kind of separated the the space, and so you didn't really want to cross that because they were keeping the aisle clear.
	I don't know why they were keeping the aisle clear because nobody walked down it.
	But yeah, you didn't you didn't want to cross this military honor guard, but that that would have been uh obviously would have been you could photoshop it.
	Yeah, we're gonna photoshop it.
	We'll do boneless, boneless if you're watching, photoshop that's boneless, it's on you.
	So hey, let's play some clips from uh oh, go ahead.
	Go ahead, Cliff.
	Yeah, let me just make one comment to back you guys up.
	You know, I used to uh be much more of a flamethrower back in the day, and it's funny uh thinking back because Charlie was always the one, you know, who'd send me feedback on certain things and be like, listen, you know, I know that you disagree with this person, or I know that you know you think that they're the enemy at the moment, but we got to figure out a way to you know come together, right?
	There's got to be some coalition here.
	But he always talked about compromising uh without compromising your principal.
	And I just always like to give Charlie credit for that because there was something that he was very good at uh in a way that that not a lot of people at his level understand kind of how to put those chess pieces together.
	Um, but I just want to back up what you guys said.
	I mean, who else can get all these different media, all these different big names, all of these folks to come together?
	It's Charlie, right?
	And it's Charlie the one that really, like I said, I mean, a lot of people when they get to that sort of position or that height of influence, uh, they're they're kind of forced to take certain sides.
	And I think Charlie was just always trying to build the coalition.
	So I wanted to back that up.
	Yeah, no, absolutely.
	He he always was he always was doing that.
	He he didn't believe in purity tests necessarily.
	I mean, you could you could cross a line and he would he would um he would give you a name check and uh up against the glass uh use a hockey expression, but most of the time he was willing to work this stuff out uh in private, and he won a lot of uh trust and admiration from people that are used to getting betrayed by people in public, basically.
	You think you have a friendship with somebody, and then all of a sudden you find out that uh you're you're you're getting put on blast in in in the media or whatever.
	So let's play some clips here.
	Jack, do you uh have one that I mean I can just start here?
	Uh how about 185?
	I want you to be the embodiment of this medal.
	I do.
	I want you to free yourself from fear.
	I want you to stand courageously in the truth.
	Listen for the still small voice of God.
	And remember that while freedom is inherited in this country, each of us must be intentional stewards every single day.
	God began a mighty work through my husband and I intend to see it through.
	And the torch is in our hands now.
	It's in mine, it's in yours, it's in all of yours.
	It's in all the students with turning point USA.
	Amen.
	Speaking directly to the chapters was I think just a brilliant stroke because it goes to show you that there's so many students out there and and more students now.
	And I've been I've been working with this um chapter at Rutgers, they're you know under attack, and there's other people who are you know getting you know, getting in the limelight now, and and the pressure's on, right?
	The pressure's on turning point, but then you also see the people who are stepping up to the plate and delivering.
	So you look at the tour, the thousands upon thousands of kids that are coming out to these tour stops that are still going on.
	And we have a big new announcement.
	The big announcements.
	Yeah, so JD Vance came on the show yesterday uh on the Charlie Kirk show from the White House, which was fantastic.
	And he we he announced well, I sort of announced, but then he filled in the gaps that he and Erica are going to be hitting up old Miss Oxford, Mississippi on October 29th.
	Unbelievable.
	That'll be Erica's uh first tour stop.
	Uh and I I think her only tour stop this time, but we also announced that Benny Johnson.
	Uh no, no, no.
	I I mean, maybe actually campus stop.
	Yeah, uh, yeah, it's probably it probably is.
	I think it is uh Eric Trump, Benny Johnson, Laura Trump, and Coach Tubbille hitting up Auburn on November 5th, the one-year anniversary of uh really Cliff Maloney's call heard round the world.
	That's what November 5th will always be.
	The Pennsylvania call.
	Which was so appropriate.
	You got to call Pennsylvania.
	I remember, by the way, we were all saying it in the chat.
	And everyone's like, Pennsylvania, Pennsylvania, Pennsylvania, Pennsylvania.
	And none of us wanted to say it.
	No, Charlie was saying, don't say it.
	Yeah, that's right.
	That's right.
	He didn't believe it.
	He was like, something bad is going to happen.
	Don't say anything.
	Something bad.
	Something to pull it back.
	And we had the Tasty Cakes, which I actually, believe it or not.
	Look at what we have here.
	You guys are killing it.
	Cliff, I got the Tasty Cakes back.
	You're killing me.
	We got the Tasty Cakes back.
	I know we are killing you.
	I don't find them that delicious.
	But I love that they mean something to you.
	They're the pumpkin Tasty Cakes.
	It is the greatest cake out of Tasty, out of Philadelphia.
	Yeah.
	Bobby Kennedy absolutely hates these things.
	I don't know if there's any.
	What's the ingredient list?
	Oh, yeah.
	I don't think there's any actual.
	I don't think there's any actual pumpkin anywhere near these things.
	When you can't pronounce most of the ingredients.
	Xylitol?
	How many?
	Cellulose, sugar, sugar, sodium, sodium.
	How many syllables does that have?
	The expiration date is more than a year away.
	All you need to know is Tasty Baking Company, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.
	But these are the ones we brought out.
	Right.
	Because I knew Pennsylvania would be the one.
	And so I pull out the Tasty Cakes, which I had brought all the way after infiltrating Kamala Harris's.
	Remember the fake concert?
	I want to play it again.
	Can we play the clip?
	Just play the clip.
	Just play the clip.
	What is it?
	What is it?
	I love 240.
	Fox News decides Donald Trump.
	Trump is president of the United States we've got our republic back folks let's go there it is everybody should remember this moment.
	Look, I'm going to echo Charlie from earlier.
	Remember where you were when this happened.
	Remember where you were when you realized that the Uniparty and all these, you know, just the establishment, you said it's time to actually participate.
	And look what you guys have done.
	And if anyone deserves to get tears in his eyes, it's Charlie.
	I think we all agree.
	I think Erica was talking to some onions in the break room.
	No one has worked harder than Charlie for this.
	We got to hear some words here from each other.
	Charlie you put all this together my man let's hear it I I am just humbled by guys it's all got it's all good God alone got alone decision desk has it Pennsylvania it's beginning how has it been a year I can't believe how is it been not quite a year we've got two two three weeks still it's been a year but it's been a year.
	But I mean and well here we are again it's October right so it's election season we're you know the debate's coming up in a couple of minutes New York City yeah I we I do want to I do want to transition New Jersey Virginia when we started the Charlie Kirk show we knew that we needed to have a back end team that could really run our online store and that's why we turned to Shopify.
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	So I was actually, I got to be on Fox News this morning talking about just we were the reason November 5th came up, is because we have the stop with Eric Trump and Lara Trump and Benny and Coach Tupperville, which is actually was my original pitch to the vice president's office to say, hey, we should come on the day.
	Come on the one year, come on the one year anniversary.
	And they really tried, they just couldn't make it work with the schedule.
	So we're we're doing all this.
	I can't even imagine that kind of much of a the logistics and all the security.
	I mean, it it's anyways.
	The reason I wanted to play this Fox News clip, um, well, maybe it's worth it.
	Let's it's a little bit longer.
	Is that okay?
	We do because I I'm just giving kudos and a hat tip to JD Vance.
	And he did come on the the Charlie Kirk show uh to to make this announcement.
	So what why don't we do it?
	It's for Charlie.
	For Charlie.
	Uh 243, please.
	The staff of TP USA on yesterday.
	Um and I was just astounded by the numbers of people who have reached out.
	I understand there's I think 350,000 and growing uh young people who have said we'd like to be a part of this.
	Um the Charlie Kirk show continues as do the events, and Vice President Vance was on your show yesterday talking about how he's going to do an event and he's gonna take some questions.
	Watch here.
	I'm gonna do exactly what Charlie did, just do QA with the audience.
	I actually want to I want to hear from these kids.
	I want to answer questions from them.
	He would answer tough questions from the left and from the right.
	And so I want to do that too.
	Part of keeping Charlie's memory alive is keeping the mission alive.
	And nobody can replace Charlie, but if we all sort of take little pieces, we can do as much as we can to ensure that Charlie's mission continues to survive long after he's gone.
	I feel like that's gonna be must watch um TV streaming, whatever we're calling it now.
	Yeah, no, absolutely.
	And uh I just wanna give a huge shout out and hat tip uh to uh the vice president.
	You know, people I don't know how people imagine this working, but he had he and Usha have been so um just generous, and they have been the ones offering to help.
	They have been the ones saying, hey, we want to make sure that Charlie's legacy lives on.
	How can we help?
	What can we do?
	And I just love that uh the vice president wants to honor Charlie by emulating Charlie at these events.
	You know, yes, he'll give a few minutes of remarks, but he wants to he wants to interact with the students.
	And people need to understand that part of what made Charlie so amazing is that, yeah, he spoke, but he he listened.
	And and this is gonna give the vice president an opportunity to do just that.
	Listening is a superpower, in my opinion.
	All right.
	Andrew, thank you and safe trip home.
	Thank you so much.
	Yeah, I just I love that the vice president wants to honor Charlie by doing what Charlie did, which is he's gonna give a few minutes of remarks, but then he's gonna spend the most of his time taking questions and interacting with Charlie.
	Steely always said that.
	He always told me the very very first time that I went never did one of the campus stops by myself, even without Charlie.
	Uh what he said was this was his his advice.
	So Charlie's advice was, and I've used it for almost every single event that I could since then.
	He says, if they give you an hour, do five, 10 minutes of remarks, and the rest questions.
	Well, Charlie would plan five to ten minutes and usually go a little bit longer.
	Yeah, a little bit longer.
	And then yeah, and he was always because I was like, Well, why do you do that?
	And he goes, Well, because the questions go viral, Jack.
	It's a true.
	It's so true.
	People are people are dying for that interaction.
	You know what I mean?
	It's funny because uh one of the guys, uh, Nick Freydays, I don't know if you guys know Nick out of Virginia, it's a delegate out there.
	Right.
	He it's so funny because like with him, uh, his social media is kind of taking off.
	And it's funny because I asked him once and he says, listen, he says the floor speeches people love.
	He says, but the the speeches aren't what really take off.
	It's that interaction.
	And obviously, Charlie with the prove me wrongs, you know, understood that it's capturing not just stupid questions, but you know, people actually asking intellectual questions and getting a raw real-time response uh from Charlie.
	And that's why these turning point events, you know, I think JD's correct and and right to say, hey, let me actually take questions rather than give some pontificating speech.
	That's not a shot at him, that's all politicians.
	Um, but I think that the real thing people are looking for, we saw this in 2024.
	The whole election came down to authenticity, Right, people want something real.
	Trump going on Theo Vaughn, Trump going on, you know, Rogan.
	The real long conversations where you actually get responses that people have to think about, and they can judge your temperament and what you're actually, you know, where you're coming from that position on.
	I think that's why these proved me wrongs are great.
	I love that so many of these features you're taking that angle.
	And it's it's that real time, you know, sort of like gotta think on your feet aspect.
	That's that's tricky.
	I know I know when let's do about five more minutes, and then I know because I know the debate is gonna be starting.
	I do want to throw to that and get it set up.
	But so we've got this debate, we're going into it.
	So Mamdani is currently leading in the polls, but Cuomo is right behind him.
	So the latest poll that I've seen out of Quinnipiac, it's Mamdani 46, Cuomo 33, Curtis Sliva and Sliwa.
	Sliwa.
	In Polish, you'd say Sliva.
	But uh, we could say Sliwa.
	Um at 15.
	So it's really this three-way race.
	Well, if you add up Sliwa and Cuomo, that puts you at what?
	Uh you'd be over 48.
	Yeah, you'd be over.
	So there's this question, it's time.
	You'd be just 4846.
	Yeah, it'd be just over 4846.
	So you'd be just over.
	And you know, we're seeing uh, and by the way, we're seeing a very similar, I gotta throw it out.
	The New Jersey governor's race, where you know, we've been doing a ton of work.
	By the way, new uh turning point action is holding an event this weekend with um with Chitterelli, Jack Giroly up in northern New Jersey and in up in Bergen County, and he's right, he's right behind her in the polls.
	If you look at the head to head, but the enthusiasm gap is huge.
	There is a 13-point enthusiasm gap, Chitterelli up 55, Cheryl 42.
	That's just enthusiasm.
	That's out of the same Quinnipiac poll.
	And uh, I think we actually have some video of Charlie talking about Mamdani, Zora Mamdani, Charlie's favorite candidate of all time.
	Let's play a clip 236.
	Now, understand that in the modern world, authenticity is considered to be the most important thing ever.
	And but should it be now?
	Authenticity, if you're pointing towards something good and virtuous, is beautiful.
	You're authentically trying to be the best version of yourself, to be honest.
	If you're pointing towards a moral and transcendent ideal, but Zoran Momdani is not authentically trying to point New York or aim towards a better city, he's trying to bring New York into the gutter, and authenticity without virtue is just narcissism in disguise.
	Let me say that again.
	Authenticity without virtue is just narcissism in disguise.
	It's so I mean I remember that.
	I remember we we actually workshopped that whole thing.
	That line is so good.
	Yeah, we uh uh I remember gosh, it's a really good line.
	And it's and it's true, it's a hundred percent true.
	And and in fact, that he's he's not just talking about politics there, he's talking about life, he's talking about everything.
	And there were so many times where Charlie would do that, and he would you know, you'd you'd start with one issue or some political issue or political candidate, and he would he would unpack it all the way down to its bones.
	Well, Erica did this in her speech too.
	She she made a really important distinction between essentially what the founders would call licentiousness, which is freedom without rules, freedom without boundaries versus liberty, and liberty is about self-governance, or liber liberty, like uh individual freedom is about it's not it's not about the the lack of rules, it's saying, listen, I'm only gonna have one glass of wine or I'm not gonna have any at all, it's as opposed to five or six.
	I'm only gonna have one tasty cake as opposed to five or six.
	Maybe I'll have maybe have a bite just to make Jack happy and then put it, throw it in the trash.
	No, but whatever, whatever the um, but but there is these nuances to being a fully formed human being that can be a productive citizen of a constitutional republic.
	Because if you allow your vices to control you, then you become a slave to your vices, exactly.
	And Charlie understood that, and that's different from the like the libertine licentious do whatever you want.
	You you find out what the gods of this age are by when you realize what you're not allowed to uh criticize, right?
	Right.
	So if you're not allowed to criticize MLK, he found that one out.
	That's one of the gods of this age.
	You're not allowed to criticize the Civil Rights Act, even if you like the intention of some of the civil rights act, you're not allowed to criticize.
	But You because it's a god of this age.
	And you've committed blasphemy.
	Right.
	And you're not allowed to, you're well, you are allowed, but when you when you see these incisive commentary about, you know, licentiousness versus freedom or authenticity versus narcissism.
	That those are the the gods of this age.
	How many times have you heard somebody on the news say, well, everybody wants authenticity?
	And you know, that's really the key.
	And Trump is so authentic.
	Well, Trump is authentically who he is, but it's also because his value system is in alignment with so many American voters.
	Trump is, you know, exceptionally American in many ways, right?
	And that's why him being authentically American works.
	Wait, that's so perfect that you mentioned this.
	Authentically American.
	That's true.
	Oh, well, speaking of authentic Americans, let's play clip 237.
	Good.
	So the the third holy grail of taboos in American politics, you have socialism, you have Islam, and then you have Palestine.
	And you are really going for the trifecta.
	Let's go, baby.
	Let's go.
	Tell me why is Palestine a part of your politics?
	When you grow up as someone especially in the third world, you have a very different understanding of the Palestinian struggle.
	And it's just it's just everything about that.
	It's just going into his mouth.
	It's just as he's talking about.
	You know, he just like the fingers.
	You know, he just used the restroom.
	You can almost guarantee that he just he was like, hey, before I so ranked.
	It's really disgusting.
	And by the way, when you grow up as somebody in the third world, you have a much different.
	Oh, come on.
	You live behind a gated community in the wealthy elite, like everybody's a millionaire.
	I think that he lived in the same neighborhood as the only Ugandan billionaire, just like every other communist.
	Let me ask let me ask you guys the question that I'm not supposed to ask.
	Do we want to win?
	Do we want him to win?
	No, we don't.
	Is him winning?
	And I'll and I'll say him winning, you're right, give the poster child for an actual socialist in the financial capital of the world.
	I'm not I'm not arguing the answer is yes, but I think that that it's very interesting for me to think through.
	They have no leader right now on the left, they have no solutions, they have no policy that they're that they're driving.
	I mean, where's the when's the last time we've seen a democrat leader put out some sort of plan in terms of a government budget or something?
	I mean, at this point, it's just we hate Trump.
	Does him getting elected as an outed socialist create a poster child that we can have a better dichotomy between free market capitalism and socialism?
	I think that's a great question.
	Look, I I hear you, but this is the George Will take.
	Defeating communism is always the right answer.
	There's never an answer where defeating communism isn't the right answer.
	Now, I do think Mondami is going to win the race.
	I do.
	And I think that Slee Wah is uh I mean he's running spoiler.
	He's running a vanity campaign, and he, you know, easily could have taken a position in uh well, you know, you know, something else.
	He's claiming that he's been offered 10 million dollars to drop out of the race.
	No, no, no.
	I just mean I just mean there are other ways you can serve.
	And no, I'm not saying I'm not suggesting you say you should take the money.
	There's a bribe, man.
	I'm just saying he he's claiming that he's been bribed, which is not by Jack.
	No, listen, he now he represents it.
	He reminds me of so many of these candidates that I deal with.
	You guys deal with these people, the Constitution Party, the Libertarian Party, the spoilers, right?
	And and look, it's a tough, tough conversation to have with folks because you know, they kind of have this hope and this dream and it's party loyalty, and he is the Republican, right?
	Don't get it.
	No, but what I'm saying is look at Bobby Kennedy, right?
	Look at Bobby Kennedy.
	Bobby Kennedy runs, he runs as an independent, he gets on all the swing states, he's up there, but then what does he do?
	He looks at the race, he looks at the polls, and he says, You know what?
	I might not be able to become president, but I could become a kingmaker, and then after I become kingmaker, I can still get what I want out of all of this, which is to help the children, and now he's doing that every single day.
	So you look at what Bobby Kennedy did for the country because he put the country before himself.
	That's what I'm trying to say.
	Right.
	And look to Sleewa, get some concessions, dude.
	You're not gonna win.
	So do what Bobby Kennedy did.
	Bobby Kennedy, you're right, Jack.
	Bobby Kennedy was a genius.
	He realized that he had a little bit of leverage that he could use to take this Maha thing to the next level.
	And the guy has just completely reoriented our entire health system in a positive way, right?
	And I just look at this sleewag, and I'm like, look, I I'm a Republican.
	I get it, but why don't you get some concessions?
	He could be the kingmaker right now to tell all his supporters.
	And gosh, if you guys would have guessed a year ago that we'd be saying, hey, he should be endorsing Cuomo of all people.
	I would have probably thought you were nuts.
	But the political.
	Well, Andrew's best friends with his brother now.
	So it's funny.
	I did I did I did go on Cuomo's uh Cuomo's uh I guess it was a town hall last night at the Kennedy Center.
	They they offered, I was like, I'm here, I guess I'll do it.
	And it was it was a fine experience.
	But yeah, Chris Chris uh is probably gonna go into debate prep mode tonight, right?
	I mean, or is he not allowed to because he's a journalist?
	I don't know the rules anymore.
	I don't think anybody does.
	But here's I'm sure he'll be watching.
	Yeah, for sure.
	Here here here's here's when we do it.
	We do have to wrap up because I think they they're gonna be starting to know.
	Okay, so we have to switch the stream over.
	All right, well, fine.
	I mean, listen, here's what I will say that you're absolutely right, he should get some concessions.
	I I just want to make one final point in what you were saying, Cliff, about should we be hoping that a communist wins?
	And the answer, in my opinion, is absolutely not.
	You have no idea what kind of carnage this man would do to everyday Americans, even if they think they're voting for in their own best interest, you have no idea what kind of corruption he'll put in place.
	You have no idea what kind of apparatus will be put in place that you will not be able to extricate from a city that's in America.
	Every single inch of terrain that is America is America, and we have to insist that it is American.
	And so he's gonna stop working with ice.
	He's gonna stop working with ice, he's going to alienate the NYPD.
	People are gonna die.
	So I here's people don't realize the the facts when it just comes with NYPD.
	They are going to absolutely tuck tail and run out of that city as fast as they can.
	They're gonna get job offers from Florida, they're gonna get job offers from New Jersey and Connecticut, they're gonna go to these other municipalities.
	It's all this in Seattle important.
	Yeah, and they they will be they will have their hands tied, they're already getting their hands tied from some can't uh bad consent decree that just came across the wire this week.
	But they are they are gonna be sitting ducks and they're gonna want to get the heck out because cops, yes, they fear bullets.
	Do you know what they fear even more?
	Prosecutions.
	Prosecutions, yeah.
	They've they fear getting prosecuted for doing their job becoming better channels.
	Darn well believe that mom Donnie is going to be leading the charge to create villains out of cops that get put in terrible situations because there's terrible people running loose in the streets of New York.
	Andrew, you gotta run to the airport.
	Cliff, you and I are gonna hang out.
	We're gonna get Tyler up.
	I think we're gonna get try to see if we can find Mikey as well.
	But yeah, we got to get the great Mikey McCoy.
	And by the way, Mikey's gonna be on our show tomorrow for the AMA out of Phoenix in the daytime show.
	Yeah, all right.
	So you're flying back to Phoenix.
	I'm staying in DC.
	It's going crazy, and New York City is going red.
	Communist red.
	Debate starts now.
	Okay, so we just saw the New York mayoral debate.
	Uh it was a two-hour debate.
	I want to thank you for everyone who had to watch uh all of that communism, all that socialism.
	And honestly, I just gotta say right off the bat well-run debate.
	I thought it was a well run debate.
	I thought it was uh good job by the moderators.
	All right, I'm I'm being told now that we have everyone here.
	That is good.
	So Andrew, of course, had to leave earlier.
	Uh he was making his way to uh a flight.
	We've got the great Cliff Maloney, Mikey McCoy.
	He's there, and he's the only one of us actually in Phoenix right now, for once.
	And Tyler Boyer, who is uh who is on assignment.
	So I I kind of threw my my piece out, Cliff.
	You were earlier.
	Uh let's go, let's go, Tyler.
	You know, what what were some of your takeaways from the debate?
	Yeah, I agree with you, Jack.
	It was a really well-run debate.
	Um, I was expecting absolute chaos because you have a communist, uh, a guy who uh has a lot of piercings, and another guy who really can't usually stop talking all on the stage at the same time.
	And my expectation was just an absolute circus of a debate, and it actually was like an enjoyably long debate.
	I think actually most debates should be about that length and cover as many many substantive topics like they did.
	I mean, it's a lot of stuff that most Americans really can't Um totally comprehend because it's New York City specific, you know, inner city, you know, garbage stuff that um really shouldn't exist, but you have to talk about, I guess, if you're from New York City.
	So uh yeah, anyways, I thought it was uh a really great, well-run debate.
	Mikey.
	What do you think, man?
	Yeah, I I thought this was the most New York debate ever, because you have these two New Yorkers on stage arguing on who loves the Jews more, and then you have Mom Donnie saying the craziest stuff on stage.
	And you have you got mom Donnie saying, we need rent control buildings and we need to fix everything.
	And then you got Sleewa going up there, and every other sentence, he's going, you know, in my day when we had the guardian angels, we would patrol the streets and keep it clean.
	And then Cuomo doesn't really know what's going on, somehow ties it all back to to you know protecting the Jewish community, which is great.
	You know, that's a big community in New York.
	But I I did think it was very near New York.
	And then on top of that, you have the two DEI sign language hires who have the green sheep behind them.
	And I I think that they automatically thought that that maybe a set would pop up if they put a green sheep behind them.
	But I I I thought it was good.
	I thought the moderator did well.
	I thought maybe the moderator could have started by holding up a Chipotle bowl and saying, Mr. Mom Donnie, how do you eat this with your hands or a fork?
	I I thought that we really missed out on that one, but other than that, I thought it was a pretty good debate.
	Oh my gosh.
	Um, the media matters article at this point.
	Mikey came in on Thought Crime today.
	He Mikey had we had a clip last week of uh he's like, I really like Thought Crime, and he's been thinking about it all week, and he just came in with the most content.
	I mean, I think we can close up shop.
	That's that's great.
	He covered everything.
	Yeah, it's pretty good.
	I was like trying to be all serious.
	I'm like, oh yeah, it was good to be.
	Tyler's like, oh, substitute issues, no easy.
	All right, all right.
	Let me gotta be clip.
	We gotta do that.
	Jump in real quick and say that you know what was fascinating to me is this idea that it's the true democrat party, which means both Cuomo and uh Mom Donnie.
	You could tell every answer was not, oh, I want to present something because I have a plan or I have some sort of vision.
	It was who am I not allowed to offend?
	Every single answer, you could see him kind of pausing.
	I don't want to offend this group, so I have to answer this correctly.
	I don't want to offend that group.
	You know, at least Curtis went in as the Republican with some actual solutions, but I just feel like that represents the Democratic Party today.
	Is they're just worried about offending people, it's all about this these classes and virtue signaling.
	And to me, it was a good debate, and that the the structure I think went well, but there was no real policy positions that got anybody excited.
	I didn't think they really went deep on any of that.
	Um Donnie said, Hey, we want everything to be free.
	Uh they didn't really push back on him.
	I will say this though, I thought they went after Cuomo pretty tough on a lot of the follow-ups.
	I mean, they really inserted themselves as if they were kind of fact-checking in the moment, but they only seem to do that for him.
	Yeah, they went really easy on Mom Donnie on a lot of the follow-ups, which was you know, kind of expected because it's just the the communist propaganda that you see coming out of the the elections department in New York City.
	But I mean, I uh everything mom Donnie said was just totally rehearsed, totally fake, nothing he actually believes.
	Uh, you know, I you know, Cuomo did a nice job saying that a lot of times of just pointing out, hey, you actually said this, and now you're here, and then he didn't really give any real explanations as to why he changed his tune in very short format after becoming the democratic nominee.
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	So coming in, um, Mandami was the front runner.
	And, you know, Sliwa, a lot of people are looking at him as kind of like a spoiler.
	They're saying, okay, you know, you'd put, and I think the latest Quinnipiac poll said Slee was at uh 15, Cuomo's at 33, and then Mandami's at 46.
	So if you put the two of them together, they'd be at 48.
	And they'd uh that Cuomo would be the lead, but instead, and and obviously not all that 15 would go over, but instead, uh, you know, it's it's it's just this split ticket.
	And so Mandani was the one who needed to have a pitch perfect night.
	And I gotta say, I I don't know that either of those guys laid a finger on him.
	I'm just gonna say it.
	Do you do you guys think there was any moment where they, you know, where they got in and really got some shots in, scored some points.
	I I didn't really see anything.
	I'll throw it to you guys though.
	I'll jump in and say that I think when it comes to authenticity, mom Donnie destroyed it.
	Uh he he just he comes across as a likable guy.
	He's young, he looks fresh.
	Uh obviously the things that he stands for, we all vehemently disagree with.
	Um, but I think that's the the almost reminded me, I hate to say it like this, but it was almost like Trump versus the other candidates.
	Now, look, a lot of the other candidates in the debates, especially 2016, you know, I like a lot of them.
	They're good on policy, but you know, Shane Gillis in his stand-up bit about the debates, he's like, this wasn't fair.
	You know, they brought Trump in, who's a professional at this, a TV guy, and he's up against all these other people that are professional politicians.
	And that's what tonight felt like.
	I felt like Cuomo and Sliwa, you know, they didn't do bad, but they really struggled, even just looking at the camera.
	You know, we know this because we do this game, but like every single answer, Mom Dami is eyes to the camera, talking confidently, calmly, smiling at the end, answering questions directly.
	I mean, I've never said this many positive things about a socialist in my entire life, but the other two just seem to be the old school of just thinking that they're gonna answer the political way.
	I think Mom Dami connected.
	Yeah, I I think it's important to point out how likable he is also to the younger generation, both millennials and Gen Z. And I I keep talking about this, but there's a crossroads that's coming uh where where young people need to pick as a solution to their problems to go to the right or to turn to the left.
	But either way, there's gonna need to be radical change.
	And so momdani is this young, fresh cut, good looking, looks at the camera, clean cut, and he he he's offering a solution, though radical, it's a socialist solution.
	And and when you think about it, Gen Z and Millennials, these are the ones that are are the users of BNPL programs.
	They're the generations most in debt.
	And so they're they're being offered a solution that's out of the norm.
	And for a lot of them, the the ones living in New York, they they've had Cuomo and they've they've had kind of the status quo for so long.
	And I think they're hopeful to see change.
	And the only change that they they're actually offered is Mom Donny.
	And so I think he's really appealing to a lot of them.
	Um and I think you're spot on, Cliff.
	I think he was super appealing on this entire debate.
	Do we have, guys?
	I want to go in and play some of these uh plays in the clips.
	I want to ask, though, as well, do we have that clip about the mosques by any chance?
	I don't know if we have that.
	Let's play real here, though.
	Um, this this kind of speaks to what Mike He was just saying, though.
	Play clip 314.
	Andrew Cuomo is a politician of the past, and all they can speak about are the tweets of the past in 2020.
	Those are tweets, which I have apologized for to New Yorkers and police officers directly, and they are not what I am actually running on capable of actually speaking about the platform that we have here, which is one that will keep New Yorkers safe.
	And there, I mean, you you just hear it.
	It's it's he is this he's the politician of the past.
	He's the one that is, you know, from from you know time immemorial.
	He's obviously tied to you know his his family being in New York for a long time.
	And so it's it's tough to be a Cuomo and say you're running as as a change candidate.
	I mean, I just don't really know how you do that politically.
	Yeah, and I you know, just kind of piggybacking on that.
	It's you know, Cuomo's just such an such an unlikable guy that it's just such an unfortunate situation where you have uh yeah, that's juxtaposition of likable bad policies and unlikable, really just slightly less bad policies, and then unlikable good policies.
	You know, that's just that's the that's unfortunately the construct of every good campaign that runs, you have to be likable.
	You have to become across as someone that people connect with.
	And mom Donnie is you know, a you know outsider looking Obama-esque young uh uh messenger who he clearly sat down and was told and coached that he could not come across tonight as you know angry or defensive or uh you know opportunistic.
	He he was really smart in how he answered questions, which was moderation and quiet and calm and likable.
	And so that's just the that's that's the winning formula for him right now because it's his race to lose at this point, unfortunately.
	And all he had to do was make you know take more away from you know a bad, unlikable Democrat candidate.
	And I think he was successful, unfortunately, at that tonight.
	And that's part of the reason why so many people have hesitancy to tell Curtis Lewat to get out of the race, because you've got a guy that is not good at all.
	And I'll point to one specific example as they were like arguing over why mom Donnie hasn't endorsed Kathy Hokel.
	Well, that's not exactly the the person that instills a lot of confidence with all the Republicans that you have to try to win over in the city, is you know, making the point in the debate that you know the governor deserves you know an endorsement from you know the the Cuomo clan.
	So again, and and that that governor may end up in and Curtis Lewa was right, is that there's a really good chance that you're gonna have a Republican governor in the state of New York, and that may be the only way to hold mom Donnie in check, but you know, Cuomo didn't get the message, and he showed up tonight and he was like carrying the water for the the democratic establishment, which that may be the only thing that you can do at this point.
	I don't know, but it doesn't instill a ton of confidence in the person that's trying to pull together a unit to take out the communist.
	Well, and let's talk about Cuomo's biggest drop ball, and that to me was when they asked him, hey, is there anything that you've learned or or somehow that you've improved and experienced or something of a deep level, and he literally said social media.
	He said, I wasn't on TikTok before, but now I'm gonna focus on and then they went back to him.
	They said, Sir, we're talking about you learning about something that that you feel like you've gained some experience.
	It was so his answer was so bad, they tried to give the old man a second chance.
	Like it's not just TikTok, buddy.
	There's a couple other things.
	Yeah, I mean, just echoing how unappealing both of these candidates, other than Zoran Mom Dani are to the younger generation.
	I I you it's Sliwa.
	I I look personally speaking, I think he is so unlikable and unappealing to the younger eye.
	I think he's just that this this he keeps quoting the guardian angels over and over again.
	And to us, we don't even know what that is.
	And I know I was texting my friends who live in New York, they don't even know what that is.
	That's from like a different generation, I feel like.
	And then on top of that, you have him saying, you know, for transportation, what he's not gonna take a yellow cab because you know, the Gavitis and the Gambonies shot me when I was in the back of a cab.
	And it just seems too like theatrical at times with him.
	And And for Cuomo, he's he's saying that he's one of the biggest takeaways or one of the newest things he's done is get on TikTok on social media.
	It's just he doesn't understand the younger generation.
	I don't think either of them do.
	I I think Zorron Mom Donny to the independent voter is just, you know, uh if I'm gonna vote, I might as well vote for mom Donnie since he's the only one.
	But they didn't spend enough time talking about his policies that are so beyond radical, things that could actually sway voters away from him, which is you know, the dre decriminalization of prostitution or or bringing only fans culture, which is just so toxic.
	He he wants this on the streets, like you want to turn New York into a third world country.
	And I they didn't talk about this enough.
	They didn't bring it up enough, they didn't hammer it hit him on uh on it enough.
	It's I don't know.
	I I don't think that they did uh enough that they should have done to push back on him and his policies.
	I mean, this he he's literally the most radical candidate in the country right now when it comes to some of his policies.
	I wanna I want to give a point of that because this the this is a clip that'll actually illustrate what you're saying.
	Play clip 305.
	He literally has never had a job on his resume.
	It says he interned for his mother.
	Uh this is not a job for a first timer.
	Any day you could have a hurricane, you god forbid a 9-11, a health pandemic.
	If you don't know what you're doing, people could be.
	And if we have a health pandemic, then why would New Yorkers turn back to the governor who sent seniors to their death in nursing homes?
	That's the kind of experience that's on offer here today.
	What I don't have an experience, I make up for an integrity.
	And what you don't have an integrity, you could never make up for an experience.
	I mean literally just torched one.
	Literally dropped buried him.
	Yeah, I again, I mean, he basically just gave points over to the younger generation.
	For Gen Z, they're c graduating college with a labor market that's already shrinking with with degrees and jobs that don't even exist.
	And so they see this candidate who's getting made fun of on a national stage for not having a job when most Gen Z can't even find jobs right now.
	So you just basically won him more points with the younger generation, and then on top of that, they just saw Zoran Mom Donnie absolutely destroy Cuomo.
	I I that he's winning more points.
	Congratulations, Cuomo.
	Well, and I think Cuomo's gonna ask you because how how does that like you think that's gonna work with younger voters?
	You think that's gonna work with his base?
	He's appealing.
	You're uh you're burnishing his credentials to his core base by saying, Oh, you you've never had a real job.
	And it's like, well, neither have so many of them.
	That's kind of the whole point, right?
	And then you turn around and it's like, dude, you're a Cuomo.
	Like you want to talk about somebody's dad and mom being famous and help you getting a job.
	Like your whole career is based on nepotism.
	So I mean, it it is what it is.
	Like, I just wouldn't open myself up.
	And then he opens his up with COVID, which is like gonna which is gonna blast him with anyone who might still be undecided or independent.
	I mean, it like I I thought this guy was supposed to be a good politician.
	I'm like not really sure what happened here.
	Well, and I think look, you have to pick a lane, right?
	You have to pick a lane.
	I think Cuomo's problem is he's just all over the map.
	I mean, and when you're running as a change candidate, the problem is the past that you want to change.
	You used to be governor, so you're running this whole campaign trying to call out that we need to fix things because obviously New York uh is in the you know the gutter at the moment, and you have to then call out things from the past.
	And to bring up COVID to me, like that was just uh uh I mean, everybody knows how bad he was on COVID, even people on the left.
	I mean, when I was in New York City, you guys remember you had to have the COVID uh pass just to literally eat, right?
	Luckily, I won't admit this on air because it might be a felony, but luckily I had a card on me and uh was able to get into some restaurants, but like that was horrific.
	And so many people, I don't care what side of the aisle you're on, they don't forget that stuff.
	And so you can't run as a change candidate if you were part of the things that you're now trying to change.
	It doesn't add up.
	Yeah, I I just imagine if Cuomo hit back with a long list of wait, aren't you the candidate for N cash bail, repeal walking while trans ban, decriminalize sex work, legalize marijuana, permit safe injection sites, state-run grocery store stores, restrict solidary confinement, enact elder parole, re I he could have hit him back, but he I I I don't even think he prepped for this debate.
	I don't I like I don't.
	No, it's his prep was like I'm gonna hang out and I'm gonna I'm gonna beat him up because he never had a real job and I'm I'm gonna show how good I am because I'm Andrew Cuomo and I'm gonna do this is gonna be great and and and and I'm gonna come in there and talk about all the things that I did when I was I was the governor and and Trump and and COVID and and I'm sorry it's like it was where's it was very Biden esque where's trying to connect with voters.
	It was very Biden-esque like his whole thing it wasn't obviously as bad and and you know empty as Biden was but it was the same type of attitude which was like but we're gonna run it back like when I did with Obama and we're gonna come back and we're gonna do this all over again and and again that just never works like people just don't believe it.
	They don't believe that Cuomo was good to begin with.
	He's right now just like, I'm a little scared of Mom Donnie, and so I'm going to throw my vote his way.
	But he did nothing to actually show he's a qualified leader for any party and certainly not for the largest city in America.
	I would also point out one thing, too, is that his intent to go after Mom Donnie seemed like it was just like axe grinding type stuff throughout the whole thing.
	He was just upset that Democrats within the city had kind of cast him aside.
	And again, we've seen this over and over again throughout American history.
	Whenever you try that, even when you're extraordinarily popular, people sense that and they sense the kind of self-righteousness when you're in that.
	And that's all that came through tonight was I'm great, just like Joe Biden would do when he would talk and everyone would be like, oh, no, Joe, stop talking.
	And it just comes across extraordinarily disingenuous.
	I think one of the biggest missteps from both, not Mondami, but the other two was they really didn't paint him into the radical corner and to expose him for a lot of things.
	Mikey, you just read off a lot of the list.
	But the funniest part was the moment that showed me just how radical Mom Donnie is was not the others calling him out.
	It was him saying FDR was his favorite.
	favorite president.
	That to me was like it's such a calculated response but the fact that he didn't say Obama I was thinking to myself like you know I didn't know he had past statements against Obama I mean this guy is about as far to the left as you can get but that to me was a pretty big moment that he would say FDR over Obama um I don't really know what that says or who he's playing to but that to me was pretty wild.
	I want to play this clip here because this is something that Charlie talked about a lot.
	And here it is coming up live in the New York City mayoral debate.
	It's clip 332.
	...in the Democratic primary for him to set foot in a mosque.
	He had more than 10 years, and he couldn't name a single mosque at the last debate we had that he visited.
	And what Muslims want in this city is what every community wants and deserves.
	They want equality, and they want respect.
	And it took me to get you to even see those Muslims as part of this city.
	And that, frankly, is something that is shameful and is why so many New Yorkers have lost faith in this politics.
	Yeah, except that is totally false.
	I've worked with the Muslim community for many, many years.
	Name a single mosque you went to when you were the governor.
	Can you name a single mosque you went to in 10 years?
	Before you were ever here.
	Before I was here.
	So we are, what, 24 years since 9-11.
	Two and a half decades, give or take.
	And at the New York City mayoral debate, a serious question is being held.
	An accusation.
	You didn't go to a mosque.
	How dare you not go to a mosque?
	Charlie always warned about the Islamization of America.
	I think that, and we were talking in the preview a little bit with Andrew, that, you know, I think going to London and seeing how far it had come.
	then coming back and realizing that that Was coming to New York.
	I think that had a huge impression on him.
	And there you go.
	That's exactly what Charlie predicted that that becomes a question and a huge moment inside the debate in New York City itself.
	Mikey, you you were on that trip with him to to Oxford and Cambridge.
	Then when he came back and and made those comments.
	Is that is that something that you think you really kind of drove where he was coming from?
	Yeah, big time.
	But not just in London, which is now basically a third world sharia hellhole.
	And when you're in your yeah, exactly, London stun.
	When you're in your hotel room in London, you're you're going through the TV channels and you realize that they have Qatar TV and they have Omar TV, and they have and it goes down the La Syria TV, and they have every single Middle Eastern countries TV networks.
	And you realize this is no longer London.
	This is no longer the United Kingdom.
	And recently it's debated right now if Qatar actually owns more land in London than the royal family does.
	And I'm 99% sure that's true.
	And they're just buying up land nonstop.
	And it's not just in London, it's in Oxford, it was in Cambridge, both in the student body that we saw, but also in the towns.
	You'd see these beautiful towns that are picturesque from medieval England that have just been destroyed and desecrated by a big mosque that's blaring music in the middle of the day, like Dearborn, Michigan.
	And and I I think the trajectory is really scary here in America's biggest city, that the debate is about visiting a mosque.
	Charlie warned about this all the time, but what's gonna be next?
	Did you as governor not approve Sharia law 10 years from now?
	I I'm really worried with the trajectory that this is headed.
	Charlie was a big advocate about warning of the Islamisation of America.
	It's coming, it's a threat.
	They they outbreed, they they will take over everything they touch, and then the sword comes.
	So I I think this is a big threat and a big warning sign to America that in America's biggest city, this is a debate topic.
	What?
	So let's let me ask one of the other old heads around here.
	Uh Cliff, can you believe that we're sitting here again, two and a half decades after watching those towers come down, finding out who did that, and then this becomes a centerpiece of the debate.
	New York, same city.
	Yeah, and like I said, I mean, this debate really didn't go deep on a lot of issues.
	So for them to spend so much time on this issue, you know, to me just shows that the party has kind of lost its way.
	Um, no, I would have never guessed that, you know, two decades later that this becomes a topic that we discuss.
	But I agree with you guys.
	I mean, I I went to London, and I think the trips, when you see it, it's very different.
	Um, I think Elon Musk was the first person to really post about it.
	I'm like, well, you know, but when you go there and you kind of see how they turn into third world countries with this endless immigration, and then we're looking at New York City, the finance capital of the world, and that's the topic of discussion.
	I mean, that should be a moment of self-reflection for all of us, right?
	We're not talking about lowering taxes, we're not talking about creating jobs.
	We're doing a litmus test on if a person running for political office has been in a mosque.
	I think that's a wild, wild interaction.
	Yeah.
	And I would just point out too, it's really scary what's going to be happening here to New York because we've talked a lot about the the communization, whatever you want to call it, uh, you know, adding more communism and socialism to the city.
	I mean, this guy is literally a member of DSA, the Democratic Socialists of America.
	These guys celebrate the Russian revolution as a holiday.
	That that's who these people are.
	They celebrate the Russian revolution.
	And we're going to see this this complete change in New York of in-groups and out groups with with as far as culture goes.
	But as people are coming in, I mean, we're going to have an eradication of culture within New York City as we know it, with people leaving the city.
	Uh, we already had uh literally hundreds of thousands of people leave the city permanently from New York during COVID.
	And now you're going to have because of the uh election of this mayor, uh, tons of people leave, but it's not just the communism that you're going to see uh take place and take footing.
	You're going to see an a dramatic increase of Islam in the city.
	Um certainly, I mean, it's and this isn't you know, looking at this from just a pure racial standpoint or ethnic standpoint.
	It's just this just the facts of that you when you have somebody that represents the city, New York City, um, they're likely to attract more of that culture to the city.
	And if you have a ton of people leaving because they feel like communism's taking over the city, who is going to move into the city?
	And that's why the Islamization of London and other European cities is so in line with New York City, where you're going to see this.
	You're going to have this really happen in a big way to the same way that we've seen it happen uh with different subgroups, like in Toronto, like we just talked about London within Berlin.
	Uh, yeah, cities that we've seen all over uh Europe, including Italy, where there's you have this infighting that's happening.
	It's going to create such tension because culture is unstable and that people are leaving in such big numbers that it's going to be really, really bad.
	And what that means in the very simple terms for most that we're not really talking about very directly is crime is going to go up.
	Uh, there's going to be instability uh amongst our caregivers within uh the medical community, police are going to struggle to fill jobs.
	Uh, because when you have people leave this the city, that's not just you know businessmen who don't like communism.
	It's also, you know, good Republican police officers and conservative police officers, whether they're conservative Democrats or they're actual conservatives, they're gonna be leaving the city and getting better jobs elsewhere within communities that they feel more comfortable serving.
	So this is a real problem for New York City.
	There, there's a number of chain reactions that are going to take place that come from the decision uh of the Democrat Party to basically hand over all of their the cultural elements to communists and Islamists.
	And that is what's going to start to make up the context of the future of the Democrat Party.
	And that, I mean, the winner here is the Republican Party.
	If we can pull ourselves together and actually represent core values to American citizens in a very clear and concise and open way.
	Uh, but momdani is now going to be the face, whether they like it or not.
	He will be the face of the Democrat Party in America.
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	I want to throw it here, by the way, to a very good friend of ours, play clip 335.
	And people say, I like authentic momdani because he's authentic.
	But authentic to what?
	And what is he aiming towards?
	He's aiming towards a devolution.
	It's bad either way.
	By the way, if he eats with his rights with his hands, whether he means it or not, he's either authentically gross or he's being a fake, disgusting person.
	And in some of the comments of a TikTok video I made, people said, but Charlie, who are you to judge other cultures?
	No, no, no, no.
	That's the point.
	We in Western culture believe that our way of life is the best.
	We're better than Muhammadism.
	We don't do female genital mutilation.
	Well, I guess the trans people do, but we don't do female gen general mutilation.
	We in the West don't have child marriages.
	We don't believe in honor killings.
	We don't believe in polygamy.
	We believe in American exceptionalism.
	We believe our culture is better.
	You see, in the modern world, happiness is the goal, feelings are the guide.
	Judgment is the ultimate sin, and God is the ultimate guest.
	And let me say that again.
	Judgment is the ultimate sin.
	You're not allowed to judge others.
	Guess what?
	I'm gonna judge you if you eat rice with your hands.
	That's bad.
	That's wrong.
	Assimilation is a necessity, not a suggestion.
	So good.
	Man.
	The part where he where he corrected himself on the fly.
	He's like, we don't do female general mutilation.
	Well, except with the trans.
	It's like, oh no.
	Well, listen, Charlie is Charlie's line on authenticity.
	Um, I really think you know, Trump showed us that people do care about authenticity.
	I think that's a big reason why Trump won in 24.
	But it's also a problem when the other side, the evil side, is beating us at the authenticity game.
	I think tonight's debate showed that.
	I think the most authentic person on that stage, based on no politics, no policies, but just watching them, hearing them was Mom Donnie.
	It was the same thing with Obama.
	People thought he was authentic.
	We can disagree with their politics all day.
	So sometimes it helps us.
	And I think Charlie's right though.
	You know, what is the authenticity pushing towards?
	Is it pushing towards radicalism where we want to have government as our god?
	Or is it pushing towards free enterprise, free markets, the things America was founded on?
	But that's the that's the thing with authenticity.
	It does go both ways.
	Yeah, I mean, it's just it's Nietzsche's reevaluation of values.
	And it's just I I Charlie is the best.
	I love I could listen to him every day, all day, and I do listen to him every day all day.
	But it's just the whole, you know, that's offensive to other cultures.
	You you can't.
	No, he's spot on.
	We don't do that here.
	You can go back to where you came from to go do that.
	But in America, we do not eat with our hands, we do not poop on the streets.
	Like there, there is a crow, there's a line that you cross that we just we have to lay the line.
	Truth is truth, and we need to have our standards, and you do not cross those standards.
	And I was talking to a big donor this last week, and he said, Look, listen, I I when I give, I disagree with a lot of the people I give to.
	I weren't, but nobody you're ever going to be aligned with, you're gonna agree with 100%.
	As long as I agree with you 60% of the time, that's great.
	As long as the 40% isn't make communism great again, you can count on my support.
	And that's kind of the mentality that we need.
	Look, let's be real.
	Sleewa needs to kind of drop out of the race and endorse Cuomo.
	But I don't blame him.
	Like, why would you want to drop out of the race and endorse this candidate that it's kind of a joke?
	Was a joke as governor and is going to be a joke as mayor.
	And it's it's again that Nietzsche's reevaluation values.
	This is why Mom Dani is so appealing to those people that are saying that's offensive to other cultures.
	That's racist.
	That these are the people that are going to vote for Mam Dani because he is changing the standards in a bad way.
	We are not gonna move forward as a society, we're gonna move back as a side as backwards as a society because he's changing the norms.
	He's changing what we stand for in America, like eating with a fork.
	I mean, there's so much with that, it's just demographics is destiny, right?
	And I remember um JD Vance had this clip.
	I don't have time to pull it up right now, but he was talking about how you know there's so much of the demographic that voted for Mandani.
	It's your it's your like young urban creatives, your Gen Z, but then also so many recent migrants from uh from South Asia.
	And whereas like Cuomo in the primary that they held, he got a lot of blacks, he got a lot of Hispanics, and so it's sort of like that was the actual working class vote that went for Cuomo, and then instead it was these, you know, the the artsy urban creative types.
	Uh Scott Greer has this great line, he calls them the yuckies, why you see, like as opposed to the yuppies, the young urban professionals, and that the yuppies weren't really going for momdani at all.
	It's it's these these yucky types, these artists, and again, just these, you know, the migrants.
	And so for some reason, after 9-11, we decided to just open up our borders, and we were going to get into a war with the Middle East, but then also invite the Middle East to come into our country, and then Barack Obama put that on absolute steroids and started just like mass importing uh whole populations like the Somalians and others directly to the Midwest.
	And you know, now we've got like thousands of Haitians in uh, you know, Springfield, Ohio, and all the rest of it.
	And you look at a city like New York, how could it happen?
	How could it happen?
	Well, there you go.
	And people want to take about, you know, talk about you know the the demographic replacement, and it's like it's not a theory, it's just a description of something that's happening, and we can all see it and you know, write me up again about it.
	Write me up again.
	It's just the truth.
	It it reminds me of of Dr. James Orr's tweet, which was such a good tweet that when he was in town, I printed it out.
	I was like, Dr. Orr, would you please sign this for me?
	Import the Arab world.
	Yeah, of course.
	I call why wouldn't you?
	Look, I I'll get you a copy next time I see him, Jack, because I know you're secretly jealous.
	But import the Arab world.
	Or kind of them.
	Like we had dinner and I didn't realize that he was signing tweets.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Well, you could have asked, you know.
	Yeah, I should have.
	You should have.
	Now the only solution is for you to travel to Cambridge and get it signed.
	But look, his tweet was import the Arab world, become the Arab world.
	And this is happening actively in America right now.
	Dr. Orr, the UK is probably 10, 15 years ahead, maybe less, probably less than than we are in the trajectory that we are headed.
	But it's definitely happening.
	And when Charlie and I were in Maine that this this couple months ago, we spent a day in Portland and we were talking to police officers, and the police officer said, There are so many Muslims coming here and Somalians that we will get police calls where we check in on a house and it's a one-bedroom, one bathroom house or or apartment.
	And when we come in, there's 18 Somalians and they're beating up one woman, or or there's trash everywhere, and there's feces on the ground.
	This is happening right now in America.
	And the mayor of South Portland at the exact same time that this was happening, the police officer said she was a Muslim that this is happening while you are getting elected Muslim officials to office, there are Muslims in Arabs and the the Somalians coming in and living in uh 18 of them living in a one-bedroom house, uh beating up women, they don't have the same values that we have as Americans.
	And that's why Mam Dani is uh he's kind of appealing to some of these immigrants because they see their third world mentality in him, and they're hoping, well, maybe he can make this a little bit more like our home that we came from.
	And then when we were third world mentality, speaking of third world mentality, it wanted to play clip 336.
	It's genocide.
	And I find the comments that Hassan made on 9-11 to be objectionable and reprehensible.
	And I also think that part of the reason why Democrats are in the situation that we are in of being a permanent minority in this country.
	So that's that's Hassan Piker on his live stream tonight, watching himself get disavowed by his his his little boy momdani.
	So he's d he's disavowing him on in the debate itself, and that's that's him watching, and he needs that little that little pat on the back from that.
	I I don't even know what his little sidekick is.
	It's like he's like a mini Hassan.
	Jack, let me ask the question I asked earlier uh before the debate, but I want to ask it now to Tyler and Mikey.
	Do we think in any world it is a good thing for mom Donnie to win?
	And you guys know what I'm talking about to have an actual poster child that is elected and to see the results of socialism.
	Earlier on the show, we said no.
	We all agreed on that.
	But it's an honest discussion, right?
	It's an honest question.
	Does him winning and creating a actual, hey, look, this is what socialism is.
	Is that a net negative, net benefit?
	What do you guys think?
	Yeah, I I I mean it could rally the troops, I guess.
	But I I I don't know.
	I'm really worried about that.
	If he wins, which he most likely will, I think that Republicans, this is gonna be a wake up call for them when they see the trajectory that New York is headed in, what actually happens.
	But I would like to see how much he actually pulls through on some of his promises.
	Do we actually think that state run grocery stores will happen under Mom Donnie?
	Or is he just saying this to kind of get elected?
	I I think it's a lot of talk versus what he will actually do.
	Um, but I do think that it, yeah, if New York becomes the hellhole of America and a third world pocket of our country, then yeah, I definitely would be a wake-up call to Republicans.
	But why do we need that?
	Why can't we just have action now?
	Why doesn't the donor class wake up and fight this immediately now?
	Why don't the Republicans fight this right now instead of waiting for this to fester into a pocket of a third world country in our biggest city in America to wait for action to take place?
	I it's just a little confusing to me for a well.
	So so I do agree with with you.
	Like obviously defeating communism is good, letting America's greatest city fall to communism is bad.
	But Tyler, look, you've been putting together the turning point action 26 plan.
	Uh midterms obviously are right around the corner.
	Um I'd be remiss if I didn't mention Virginia and New Jersey, uh something what 19 days away, 18 days away, huge, huge um elections going on.
	It's hard in New Jersey action event in uh in North Jersey this Sunday.
	But Tyler, let's, you know, talking about the midterms, if Mamdanny is the mayor, do you think that would have an effect on the midterms and the way it plays out?
	Yeah, for sure is.
	I mean, and and the probably the best analogy is uh when your favorite restaurant closes down, nobody really is really happy about that for whatever reason.
	There's a lot of different reasons people close down restaurants.
	Uh sometimes it just runs their core, sometimes the the people who own it retire, sometimes you know uh COVID and 2020 happens and BLM It's hard to run to death and never go back that restaurant is permanently damaged or closed.
	But what the natural the natural impact that happens is that people go other other places.
	They go elsewhere, they they stand up, they eat elsewhere, they open up new restaurants and new places.
	And that's what we're gonna see happen coming out of New York, whether we like it or not.
	I don't think anyone celebrates or enjoys the fact that their favorite restaurants now closed, but they are going to have to go other places.
	The question is is our Americans going to defend those other restaurants so the old one or the new one doesn't close like the old one did.
	And and that's the real problem that we have in in America right now is that we have a lot of people who have taken themselves their their community for granted.
	They haven't got involved and are active enough.
	They haven't defended the local public policy that has uh enabled uh Cretans to come in and really dismantle the culture of America.
	And and you have to keep again keep supporting and and loving uh your local legislators, your local city council members, your local school board members, recruiting them, running yourself uh for those positions in order to protect your community.
	And unfortunately, the story of of New York City is that that has all been handed away.
	And that is why you are where you were at in New York City now.
	And that also means that people are gonna go elsewhere and New Jersey and Connecticut are gonna see huge spikes in conservatism.
	Um, both moderate and conservative Democrats and conservatives.
	The question is again, is there are the Republicans going to take those people in, embrace them, and then convert them to be permanent members and fixtures of the party and say no more of this.
	We're going to uh have a new community here that it protects culture uh instead of uh allows all the again, like I said, these Cretans to come in and hijack uh your community.
	And that's to be seen.
	But I think people are gonna look back at this and say that was not a good thing that New York has gone the direction that it's gone, whether you're you're it benefits the Republican Party or not, this is going to be very disruptive and dismantling to our culture.
	It's gonna create friction uh that's not good and healthy for for America.
	It's gonna create more violence, it's gonna create more animosity uh between Americans, people who think America's something different than culturally what it what it actually is and has been.
	And that's a real problem for America.
	Well, and and and look, it it gives for the midterms, I'll say for 26, you know, as we see New York do this, it will give people something to push against.
	Look, uh, the very first thing that Mundami is going to do, if and when he gets elected mayor, and you know, we'll see.
	We'll see.
	New York might may go otherwise.
	But um, I think the very first thing he does day one is block any cooperation with ice.
	He will absolutely turn New York back into the sanctuary city that it was prior to Eric Adams, where people were just remember this.
	They were flooding the streets, they were going through hotels, they were getting like taxpayer-funded vouchers for sleeping in hotels um all over the place.
	And you're gonna see that happen again, again immediately.
	So there's gonna be this huge, and by the way, that's why they talked about we didn't mention this.
	They talked about Trump more than anything else during the entire debate.
	And why?
	Because they want, they know that uh that if Trump gets, you know, Trump's still president, that they have this election, they can turn it into a referendum on Trump and then make it be this, you know, thorn in the side of Donald Trump, the mayor of New York, the mayor of Donald Trump city refuses to agree with him, refuses to endorse him, refuses to go along with ICE, et cetera, et cetera.
	You know, and they're gonna deny the National Guard, they're gonna have standoffs.
	It's going to be uh I could see a scenario where a Mundami uh, you know, mayoral term, mayoral tenure turns a lot of New York into the new Portland.
	I can really see that.
	It's gonna be worse, Jack.
	It's gonna be worse than Portland.
	And you know why it's gonna be worse than Portland?
	Is because you you already have massive racial tensions and uh a scenario with within New York that is far more uh far more of a hotbed for crime and criminal activity.
	You have significantly uh more people, obviously, which always causes massive disruption.
	You have uh a historic New York police department uh and fire department that has relied on the backs of multi-generation, multi-generational talent that has made that kept that city safe.
	And guess what?
	All those people are going to probably finally make the decision to leave.
	And this is really again, I cannot bring this back enough.
	Is that a community is not a community built on just ideas and looks and and just values.
	It's it's a culture that is sewn together with heritage and again, multiple generations of people standing together to build something special.
	And New York has existed and worked for this many years because again, you've had a lot of people that have can you know dedicated themselves to public service, and I just don't see I I cannot we've heard it from people.
	I mean, we've seen it from people.
	They got an injection of that post-9-11.
	9-11 caused people to turn their hearts back to the city.
	The difference between you know that that happening nearly 25 years ago after next this next year, and to where we are today is people's hearts are turning away from the city.
	You have COVID, uh, where you have a candidate that's on stage who literally killed, had you know, had people oversaw people dying within the city, that they were forced to die within the city uh because they wouldn't properly take care of them.
	They wouldn't institute policies that were you know both freedom loving and then also uh you know, using just you know, cooler and letting letting cooler heads prevail.
	And you now have a candidate who's gonna be become New York or New York City's mayor, who uh is going to radicalize the city in such a way that there's not going to be very many people left that are going to keep that that culture together.
	And so we're gonna see just a complete departure and and representation of what New York City looks like.
	It's gonna change dramatically and drastically, and there's gonna be a lot of heartache and sadness uh in the in the tri-state area for people to say, well, that's what New York City used to be.
	Or I remember how New York City was, and now look at it today.
	And that's what the next 20 years is probably going to look like.
	Because Mom Dani's just the beginning of this.
	This is not this is not something that's going to get corrected very quickly because of the Democratic Socialists of America.
	Yeah, I I back to what Cliff said just on what what the reaction will be in the country.
	I feel like there should already be a massive reaction to this because following the 2024 presidential election, you would have thought that the left would move a little less radical on their policies.
	Since the huge 8020 issue of men in women's bathrooms and other radical stances that they've taken, lost them, the presidency and the Senate, et cetera.
	And you would think that they would take less radical stances, but they're not.
	And you see mom Donnie coming in with these crazy, crazy stances.
	But then on top of that, what's really scary about this that I think Republicans need to spend more time talking about is the fact that this is a municipal power that he's threatening BDS uh against Israel, and that he would arrest the leader of a foreign nation if he stepped foot in New York City.
	It since when is a municipal power acted in in this way?
	And if this is the way Mom Dani is going, and if this is the way the left is going in the Democratic Party, what what is gonna continue, not just in New York but across the country with with candidates running for office across the country and their stances?
	How are they gonna abuse their power and are they gonna continue to move further and further left?
	I just think that not enough Republicans are really warning about the trajectory of this.
	Mikey, let me make a plug I never get to make, just real quick, Jack.
	This is why local elections matter.
	Okay, I've been trying to say this.
	Me and Tyler can debate this forever.
	Obviously, we got to do the big national races, but local elections, this mayoral race, obviously it's not that local, it's a New York City mayor race.
	But this is why Republicans need to adopt the strategy of the left, which is building a bench, building a minor leagues, and understanding that we need America first Patriots across the country to run at the local level, school board, dog catcher.
	I don't care what it is, countywide, especially state level.
	But if you want to really enact change, these local races are the way to do it because it takes less money, it takes less of a grassroots, but you're not dealing with the big money that you deal with when you run the federal races.
	Been dying to say this on Charlie's show for probably two years, but local races matter, and I think tonight's debate shows you it has an outsize impact and it helps you to build the bench for the future.
	There you go.
	Cliff, where can people follow you and get access to Citizens Alliance?
	On X at Maloney, we're running the PA chase again this year.
	And of course, we've got the New Jersey chase, just under three weeks left to try to elect Jack Chitterelli.
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	Amen.
	Mikey working to follow you.
	Uh on X, it's Michael underscore McCoy with two eyes.
	And then on Instagram, Mikey.
	McCoy.
	Crushing it on the gram.
	I've been seeing that stuff.
	Insane traction there and great content.
	I love the um, I just love all the video polls you have, man.
	It's like like endless Charlie content, and I love it.
	It's so all the behind the scenes stuff, videos that no one's ever seen.
	It's so cool.
	Charlie Boyer.
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	We've got a lot of work to do this next year.
	We do, but we've got a lot of work this weekend too, because I don't know about you guys, but I am so excited for the no kings protest.
	I'm gonna be out there.
	I'm gonna be bringing my walker, maybe my wheelchair.
	Man, it's gonna be it's gonna be so good.
	I really hope rather that'd be a good like Alex Stein bit to just like dress up as like remember when um uh Johnny Knoxville used to dress in like old like dress like an old man, and then like you just walk go to the no kings protest.
	I should uh sent my brother's uh into doing that this weekend or something.
	I'm gonna be there.
	Of course, I am Jack Pasobi.
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	Thank you so much for tuning in with us.
	The Charlie Charlie always loved doing these debate watches and debate recaps, and so that's why we decided that uh we're gonna continue the tradition and make sure that we do it tonight.
	And so, as always, go out there and commit more fuck crime.

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