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The ‘Both Sides’ Lie and Banning Sharia Law

Andrew Kolvet and Jack Posobiec continue to slam the lie that political violence is a "both sides" issue, and Sen. Coach Tommy Tuberville joins to preview his TPUSA campus stop coming up at Auburn on Nov. 5 before getting into Coach’s new legislation aimed at banning Sharia Law in the United States. Watch every episode ad-free on members.charliekirk.com!    Get new merch at charliekirkstore.com!Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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And I'm joined in studio here in DC.
No, we did not change the set.
We're just on location in Washington, D.C. And uh I'm joined by Jack Pasobi.
What's up, man?
Uh, you know, we're uh we're holding it down here in the Imperial Capitol while Blake is on assignment in Italy.
I'm just gonna out him right here.
I was gonna say we don't usually tell people specifically where they are.
Well, in this instance, it's just too cool, I have to say it.
It is pretty cool.
He has a family member that's taking the vows uh to become a nun.
Female, which is super based, uh, which is super based.
It's actually Blake, isn't it?
Blake's joining nunnery.
Blake's joining a nunnery.
There's there's too many too.
Finally found a place for Blake.
Too many tripwires in that minefield.
You just uh you just laid for me.
So, anyways, we are uh honored to be with you guys.
We I I just have to say, we've gotten such a tremendous outpouring of just feedback from our show yesterday that we did from the White House.
Uh, truly, truly uh grateful for all the the nice notes and the kind uh things you guys have said.
We had a tremendous show.
We had James Blair, who's one of the most powerful people actually in the administration.
People don't realize that, but he's head of like political and policy, uh deputy chief of staff at the White House that we had.
Of course, JD Vance.
We announced that JD, if you guys want to throw this uh graphic up, JD is going to be speaking on campus with Erica Kirk on October 29th at Ole Miss, there in Oxford, Mississippi.
Gonna be an amazing, amazing event.
Uh and he's said he's just gonna take questions.
Has a sitting vice president or president ever done something like this before?
No.
Uh as far as I'm as far as I'm aware.
Can't think of anything.
But the the courage that it takes, as you know, essentially the second most powerful man in the world to sit in front of students at a college.
There's gonna be like 10,000 people there taking questions for probably like an hour, let's just say.
But he's willing to just do that and take questions.
They're gonna be unscripted.
It's gonna be.
I mean, who does that?
Right.
Even the town halls that they do, you know, on CNN, we can get into AOC and Bernie did theirs last night.
Yeah, but that was all planned.
It was all planned, and they know which questions are coming.
This is gonna be completely raw, and he's willing to take hard questions from both the left and the right.
So take that much time out of his schedule, and with the logistics, with the security, with the pre-planning that has to go in.
I mean, that it's just a testament to how much Charlie meant to JD and how big of an impact that Charlie's legacy had, not on only JD as a person, but really on JD's polit uh uh politics.
And JD really has told the story that uh that Charlie was the one that really backed him, encouraged him when he was first running for Senate, and then eventually uh where he is now in the vice presidency.
Yeah, JD would tell you this as well.
He would not be where he is today as the sitting vice president of the United States because he probably wouldn't have been senator, and then he probably wouldn't have had so much backing and support from a lot of people that Charlie helped uh bring about when he was being considered for vice president.
Charlie really spearheaded that.
And then, of course, all the efforts that turning point action, the Charlie that you did, Jack, to get JD in office, get to get uh President Trump in office.
So I actually, we've both been doing the media rounds, uh, Jack.
Because we're in DC, we're in the Imperial Capitol, might as well make use of it.
I actually went on the with Dana Perino and Bill Hemer this morning to talk about the interview that I had with J.D. Vance yesterday and to just thank him for what a tremendous human being he is and and for willing to emulate Charlie's, you know, his style, his mission on campus to actually take the questions.
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Uh, I just want to give a huge shout out and hat tip uh to uh the vice president.
You know, people I don't know how people imagine this working, but he had he and Usha have been so um just generous, and they have been the ones offering to help.
They have been the ones saying, hey, we want to make sure that Charlie's legacy lives on.
How can we help?
What can we do?
And I just love that uh the vice president wants to honor Charlie by emulating Charlie at these events.
You know, yes, he'll give a few minutes of remarks, but he wants to he wants to interact with the students.
And people need to understand that part of what made Charlie so amazing is that, yeah, he spoke, but he he listened.
And and this is gonna give the vice president an opportunity to do just that.
So your your reaction, Jack.
No, it's it's it's huge.
I mean, to have the vice president, sitting vice president of the United States, a guy who has been spearheading and and look, I was in the room the other day when uh Marco Rubio and JD Vance came in coming up, getting off of the call with like the Hamas negotiations and Qatar, and we know that J.D. Vance has been involved with working with Whitkoff and the Ukraine-Russia war, and so we're in the middle of a government shot.
There's so many things that are going on in DC that he has on his portfolio, and he's gonna take all of this time to honor Charlie.
And by the way, to continue the tour that the left tried to stop.
Yeah, absolutely.
What that's exactly right.
And JD said in that interview, you know, with me, he said, listen, we're gonna we're gonna each take a piece of this.
And that's nobody can replace Charlie.
There's nobody's gonna hold a candle to Charlie.
As the Bible said, we are unfit to tie the sandals of Charlie.
But here we are, and we're we're we're attempting to do our best.
We miss him, but we're gonna we're gonna keep uh we're gonna hold the torch as best we can, and JD's gonna be a big part of that, and just so grateful to him.
So also, Jack, I played a clip of mine.
I'm gonna play a clip of yours, and that is about this this theme of this rise of left-wing violence.
I did a town hall with News Nation last night.
You did.
I did it.
You're going viral right now.
Mr. Viral.
Oh, you're definitely you're definitely going viral right now.
In a bad way.
Hopefully not.
We're viral on the left.
Yeah, we'll we'll say it wasn't.
Well, here's here, but but you actually kind of commented on something similar.
Uh, again, another Fox News hit.
But by the way, give it up for Real America's Voice and Salem Radio Network that carries this show live every day.
And for Real America's Voice that you did such great work to set up the shot, uh, the shoot yesterday, the interviews, they did all of that, Parker at the White House.
At the White House.
We're so grateful.
And the day before at the Treasury Department.
So thank you.
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So here's here's Jack Pasobic.
Uh, yesterday evening, last evening, uh, 262.
Mark Bray was denounced by the president of Dartmouth University because of his embrace of violence all the way back in 2017.
He said if you label someone a white supremacist, if you label someone a fascist, then he endorses violence against them.
I would just say this to Rutgers.
I spoke with Turning Point Headquarters earlier tonight.
We stand by our chapter, we will defend our chapter.
And if the university wants to make an issue of it, they can find out how good our lawyers are.
All right.
So this is a really big story that's been bubbling up and it's kind of hitting a crescendo right now because I'm being asked about it, you're being asked about it.
It's big.
Mark Bray at Rusk Rutgers University.
Tell us about Mark Bray.
So Mark Bray is Dr. Antifa.
This is a guy who, by the way, was run out of Dartmouth uh years ago, back in 2017, because of his support for violence.
And he claims that Antifa violence is ethically and morally justified when it is done against people who he decides are white supremacists and fascists.
And he wrote a whole book on this in 2017.
He wrote op-eds about this.
He came out, the president of Dartmouth denounced him.
Then of course, Rutgers went and gave him this.
And by the way, it's a part-time teaching position.
I just want to be very clear about that.
So he came up and has been spreading this hate and domestic terrorism all throughout his tenure at Rutgers.
Well, in the wake of Charlie Kirk's assassination, the turning point chapter on campus was saying, look, this guy has been here for all this time.
He's spreading violence.
Our leader was just taken out.
We don't feel safe with him on campus.
He's creating a harassing and violent toxic environment for us.
And we would like to see see something done about him.
They launch a petition.
Then he flies to Spain on the taxpayer dime.
I gotta chime in on this part.
Like the flying to Spain part.
So this is a guy who advocates for preemptive violence to kill to take down fascists, to kill fascists.
What is a fascist?
A fascist to him is a conservative.
So he advocates for a violent world for us to exist amidst violence, political violence.
The second the temperature gets turned up on him just a little, not that we condone any form of violence, but this guy gets a little bit of heat on him and he flies straight to Spain.
Absolute coward.
He cannot exist in the world for that which he advocates for.
And then you know, and taking a vacation.
These kids are meanwhile getting doxxed on campus.
The university is launching an investigation on the kids, not him, not him, not on the violence that he advocates for, but on him.
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So yes, I went to this town hall last night.
Fetterman is actually the one that's going most viral, John Fetterman, because he said, I'm not going to call conservatives fascists, right?
So Fetterman is striking this civil tone.
It was supposed to be this very civil uh debate.
Uh Chris Cuomo had reached out, asked me to be a part of it.
I said, sure, I'm gonna be in town.
Let's do it.
I I'm happy to do a sim civil debate, a conversation.
So I go there, I'm backstage, and you've got, you know, Jim Jordan, you got Ro Connor, Stephen A. Smith, Bill O'Reilly, Chris Cuomo.
They're all having these very nice.
This is over there, Everett Kennedy.
They're all having these very nice conversations.
It's all very civil, it's very chill.
And then all of a sudden, my segment comes up and they put me with this Midas touch kid, Midas Mockler.
Midas toucher.
Put the he puts the mock and mockler, and we talked backstage.
He was very nice.
And, you know, I was like, okay, we'll talk about new media.
We'll talk about the importance of that, and then what's turning point doing?
I thought it was gonna be just like this.
This kid comes in and he's like, you need to disavow these young Republicans from New York.
I mean, it came at me real real hot, real hot.
I had no idea that I was walking into that situation.
Wait, can I just say, by the way, on the Fetterman piece?
So Fetterman comes out, he says, I'm not going to call conservatives fascists.
Right?
That was the big thing last night.
What do we see in Axios this morning?
The Democrats are now moving to oust Fetterman.
They're gonna primary him in Pennsylvania.
Oh my goodness.
So so you are no longer allowed to live civilly with your political opponents.
Yeah, have to claim.
And by the way, he is a 93% Democrat voting record.
So, like, like he votes with the Democrats all the time on every single issue.
It's not good enough.
But it's not good enough because he won't call Republic and this shows you.
I'm I'm sorry, but like we we're on Charlie's show, right?
This shows you the mindset and the ecosystem that leads to a heinous act like this because they demand this theological fealty to you must say the words.
You must say the words.
And if you don't say that, then they're gonna throw you out of office.
Well, let's look since we're on Fetterman, let's play that clip 270.
I knew I know and I love people that voted for President Trump.
Uh, but they are not fascists, they're not Nazis, they're not trying to destroy her the constitution, those things.
We really gotta turn the temperature down.
And for that, he's getting basically primaried by his own party.
Right, and politically speaking, so I mean, obviously, we're both from Pennsylvania.
So Trump wins Pennsylvania, but then Fetterman also won Pennsylvania.
So he's in this same boat with like Whitmer, Josh Shapiro, a number of people who are demic Bill Evers in Wisconsin, who are representing states as Democrats in places where Trump won.
You'd see this also with John Osloff in Georgia, of course, in Arizona as well, which Charlie, of course, is very close to.
Yep.
And this is a perfect example of this clip I'm about to play from Jimmy Kimmel of the current state of the Democrat Party.
This guy is still lying.
He almost lost his job.
As a matter of fact, he probably will, let's be honest, because his ratings are falling off a cliff.
And because he's not funny.
His ratings are falling off a cliff.
He's gonna his show will die the way it's supposed to die, which is because it's too expensive and it's unsuccessful.
So that's fine.
But meanwhile, despite getting a pretty stern slap on the wrist, we'll call it a slap on the wrist.
That's about what it was.
He's still out there saying Antifa is not real and that Trump supporters are domestic terrorists.
And if you want to know why conservatives are getting so upset about the rise of left-wing violence, it's because of this rhetoric that is it put this sheer sheen of respectability because it shows up on the nightly news or it shows up on late-night talk shows.
275.
Antifa is just short for anti-fascist.
It's not a club you can join.
There are no membership dues, but they have matching signs.
Okay, well, I guess we better round up these domestic terrorists too.
Listen.
I'm gonna tell you this.
Spread it around.
There's no chaos in Portland.
None.
There is no chaos in Chicago.
There was no chaos in Los Angeles.
They're pretending there's chaos as a pretense for a military takeover.
I find this highly offensive on so many levels.
And to the point that maybe I might just throw to you, Jack, but I will say this.
There is chaos in Portland and Chicago.
Go try living in the sh south side.
Go try working at a federal ice facility.
Go try uh being a journalist and covering the events without getting a black eye or getting a uh, you know, a liquid cement uh milkshake thrown at your head.
So yeah, I don't I by the way, and the whole point of Antifa, Jack, and you know this better than anybody, is that it is intentionally decentralized.
It is intentionally this amorphous, flexible, loose network of left-wing militants.
Right.
And and and they certainly do have tactical flow.
We know there's financiers, we know there's the rest of it.
But what Jimmy Kimmel is doing, uh remember, this is playing towards that slim base that he still has left, and he has to keep repeating like recursive thoughts over and over again.
We are not violent, they are violent, we are not violent as as I and I hate to say it, but as the left wing violence continues throughout this country.
We just had bloody September.
Who knows what'll be next?
We've got three names, Tyler Robinson, uh Ryan Ralph, Ryan Ryan Routh, and uh Luigi Maggioni.
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I'm told that we have the great coach Tommy Tubberville on the line.
Coach, welcome to the show.
Hey, Andrew, how are you doing?
How's it going?
I'm doing all right, coach.
Thank you so much.
And uh I want to start this.
Um by the way, I'm also joined by Jack Pasobic.
Um, coach, this is uh your first time joining the show since everything happened.
So I want to start there.
There's a lot we need to get to, but let's start there.
Charlie loved you, coach.
He believed in you.
He knew you were one of the fighters uh in Washington.
Now you're you're working on a gubernatorial campaign in the great state of Alabama.
But maybe just start there, reflect on uh what this month has meant to you and and kind of where you're at.
Yeah, I met Charlie six, seven years ago.
He helped me in my campaign for the Senate seat.
And we got to be good friends.
I saw him at the White House a couple of times uh during the campaign.
And uh just over the last year since President Trump got elected, he and I were uh were put on the Air Force uh basically the Academy Board and to try to work with Air Force Academy to try to help our young leaders of the future.
And Charlie and I had several conversations, and we were really outspoken on a lot of things that need to be changed.
And again, Charlie was uh he was one of the kind and uh you you always enjoyed talking to him because you'd always learned something.
I I learned something a long time ago.
You speak a third of the time, you listen two-thirds of the time.
And if uh I could have listened all day to Charlie, but it's a it's a shame of what's happened, uh, seemed like just yesterday.
Uh, but his memory will go on and his teachings because he did so much for young kids.
I spent my life on college campuses, and Lord have mercy how much we needed somebody like Charlie.
And now, Erica and and you guys and everybody on board going in that direction, we have to continue that uh ministry on college campuses.
That's where it starts.
That's where we're gonna change our country.
And Charlie was on the right track.
Well, and coach, I just have to say thank you uh on behalf of everybody at Turning Point USA for joining us on November 5th, an upcoming event.
Campus stops gonna be huge with alongside Eric Trump, Laura Trump, and Benny Johnson on November 5th.
I think we've got that graphic, guys, if you can throw it up.
You are going to be uh helping us kick that event off in November 5th at Auburn University, a place you know just a little bit about.
Coach, maybe tell us uh why you felt uh like you needed to be a part of this.
Well, first of all, we'd working on this with Charlie before uh uh he lost his life.
And uh he wanted to come to Auburn.
We were working out the details, and obviously now things have changed, but it hadn't changed in the fact that uh we're still gonna bring his thoughts and memory to uh Auburn.
Uh my understanding is uh it's gonna be a hard ticket to get.
Uh, we've got a lot of great Americans on that campus that uh that really love Charlie and want to continue on.
And again, I'm you you hate to say this, but uh things have really even uh multiplied even after what happened to Charlie.
Uh but again uh his memory is coming to Auburn.
Uh again, we've got a great group of Benny and Laura and Eric.
Uh, I look forward to seeing them.
I'll actually leave DC, come back, fly back just for that.
I live only three or four blocks from the campus, so I'm looking forward to uh turning point coming to Auburn and uh sharing a lot of thoughts about uh about the future of Turning Point.
And of course, Eric and Laura coming there.
They'll they'll bring a lot of other insight.
Benny also, but I'm just looking forward to being around college kids again and having a chance and opportunity to to kick something off that I think is gonna be pretty special in the in the Auburn area in the Auburn Arena, around uh, you know, 10,000 people or so that will grab a halt and keep this thing going.
Well, God bless you for it.
And you know, Erica Kirk is been a stalwart.
She has been very firm.
We are going to 10x turning point.
We are going to grow the movement that Charlie started and that his death has ushered in this groundswell of enthusiasm and patriotism.
Uh we're committed to it.
It's a sacred duty, and it's folks like you throwing in and pitching in and uh making sure that your influence is heard, that the kids get to hear from you directly.
That um makes me very, very confident that we are going to take the baton from Charlie and run with it uh as best we can, but God's gonna bless it.
I truly believe it.
And so thank you for making the time, Senator.
Uh it it's a it's a huge blessing to us.
Now, something else you and Charlie shared, uh, and I've mentioned this on the show before is that at towards the end of his life, Charlie probably more than any other issue raised the alarm bells about the rise of Islam in the West.
Obviously, he had just visited London and the UK, saw it up close and personal, realized half the TV channels were uh in a different language, mostly mostly uh um uh Middle Eastern languages, I think that's safe to say.
Uh and it it really disturbed him.
And then he he we saw these different communities within the United States trying to uh put together Muslim-centric uh cultures and sort of uh you know, having mosques and having an HOA that was basically paying towards the mosque and epic city, I think is what they called it in Texas.
But there's other examples, uh, Dearborn, Michigan.
There's a rising tide of Islam in the West.
And Coach, you are introducing legislation to ban Sharia law in the United States.
Tell us about it.
Well, first of all, uh, this is a great country, greatest country ever on the face of the earth.
Uh we have freedoms, we have a constitution.
Uh and you have the right to come here and be a part of this country.
The the thing that you don't have the right to do is to attack our constitution, other religions, uh, speak out against America, speak out against Americans, uh, death to America.
That's wrong.
Sharia law is not going to fit here.
Uh, it it got no chance.
Charlie and I had talked talked about this recently, uh, before his death.
And uh he was starting on that campaign.
I'm gonna continue that campaign uh in his name because we have a great country, but we can't, if you don't assimilate with America and love our flag and love our people and put put your foot forward to help make this country greater instead of downgrade it, you have no place here.
So we need to ban Sharia law, and we need to make sure that anything that is done uh towards American people, if spoken out against, I don't care what it is.
If you if you speak out against this country, and right now it's mostly comes from uh radical Islamists, then you don't you don't deserve to be here.
So it's time to make a stand.
Charlie started it.
Uh, we're gonna continue on with it, and we're gonna stand up for what we believe in, and that's the greatest country on the face of the earth.
Well said, sir.
Well said.
Jack?
Well, coach, uh I want to say thank you so much for coming on.
And and I know Charlie shared so many of the values that you fight for, so many of the values that it it seems that as a country we we seem to have forgotten about many times.
And unfortunately, one of those values is the idea of being civil.
And and Andrew and I have been sitting here talking today and really for the past month about the violence that we've seen come from these elements on the far left.
And and coach, what is it that that drives them to be so directly violent?
And you have your your colleague, John Fetterman, he came out last night and he's on this panel with Andrew and says, Well, I don't think we should call Republicans fascists.
And we wake up this morning and Democrats are trying to primary him out of office in Pennsylvania.
Yeah, uh John's one of the few that speaks out uh for America on the on the Democratic side right now.
They are just moving in the direction of socialism and fascism and communism.
You name it, they're trying to do it because they want power.
They don't want anything better for our country.
They want they want people to join their cause to tear our country down and make something different than what it is, what it was and how it was built.
We've made it 250, almost 250 years.
We'll celebrate that next year.
And constitutional republics and any kind of democracy never really lasts past that point.
And so we have other people that won't change us to what they are.
Europe is gone, they've lost it.
Uh the immigration system in Europe has and most, I'd say 90% of the countries has overtaken them.
I don't know where they can regain it, but they want the big apple.
Okay.
They want the United States of America.
And we better wake up and smell the roses.
The thing that Charlie was speaking about and let people know that this is not uh a socialist country.
This is not a country that's tanked taken over by a Certain religion.
We have a set of rules.
We have a game plan.
It's called the American Constitution.
And we're not going to change that.
And we'll fight for it.
We have before.
And if we have to fight for it here, we'll fight for it here.
But we are going to let our kids and grandkids have what we've all had to grow up in the future of the greatest country ever.
Well said, sir.
We, you know, we I've commented on this that I did not feel I didn't even really internalize the fact that there was a government shutdown going on.
This is something that you are actively involved in, uh, being a part of the Senate.
Uh I got to DC and it's like, oh, I can feel the shutdown here.
This is like the one place where you can you can feel it.
I understand that eventually some of these paychecks for our servicemen, you know, might get held out, but luckily we found like a stopgap for that in the short term.
Tell us about the shutdown.
Are you optimistic it's going to end soon, or are the Democrats just gonna, you know, be uh not be moved, not be uh budged in this fight for health care for I don't know, illegals?
Yeah, well, here's here's what you gotta understand.
It's the craziest thing I've ever been around.
And I've been around a lot of crazy stuff in the last five years in the Biden administration, and now thank goodness President Trump got elected.
But this is the budget that we've had for the last four years, and every Democrat has voted for it.
Now all of a sudden, President Trump is not in office.
He's trying to make changes.
He's trying to get his head above water in terms of what the Biden administration did to our country exec and executive branch.
So he's trying.
He's doing everything he possibly can.
The problem is uh the Democrats don't like it.
And so now they want to change the narrative.
Okay, we want a trillion and a half more dollars in this budget.
Wait a minute.
We're spending two trillion more than American taxpayers send already.
We're two million, two trillion over uh uh over the budget.
And so we really need to cut it, not beyond.
They want to add a trillion and a half.
They want 50 billion for illegal aliens health health care insurance, and they want to take away the the 50 billion dollars that was in the one big, big beautiful field that will take care of rural hospitals.
We cannot do that.
It is needed all across this country.
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You're talking.
I mean, this is the central dynamic, the conflict that's happening right now in Washington.
This they want one point, did you say 1.3 trillion dollars of additional spending for health care for illegals, able-body men and women, et cetera.
Yeah, and take care of the health care that's going to rural hospitals, which is there's nothing more needed.
Our health care, Obamacare ruined our health care system in this country.
It was supposed to make it more affordable, uh, more doctors, more nurses, more hospitals.
It's done just the opposite.
It has destroyed our health care system.
So they've got a subsidy in there that was put in for COVID, which was fine.
We might have needed it, but we don't need it anymore.
It's made, it's made things more difficult for the American people.
And so premiums are gonna go up anyway because of inflation, but they're blaming the premiums that are going up on health care uh on our insurance policies on publicans voting against this.
That that that's not the case.
So here's what's gonna happen.
I don't know whether we'll open it up again, but we're gonna have to have the same conversation in December.
And so four or five weeks from now, and or at the end of November.
And so uh the Democrats have lost their mind.
If they don't want to pass it, that's fine.
President Trump is going through the bloated government in Washington, D.C., he is furloughing and firing people that don't have a don't have anything to do.
Now they got a job making 175,000.
Sometimes most of the time they work for home.
He is getting a correction that we have desperately needed in Washington, DC.
So, Coach, what is your message?
I mean, because we understand that there's this fight over the 1.3 trillion dollars in health care for working men and women, as they like to say, but it's actually way uh way more sinister than that because a lot of these are illegals.
But what's your message?
Because we know there's actually just a political calculus at play here.
Chuck Schumer's worried about his left flank.
He took a lot of uh uh in coming from his own party when he went with the CR last time.
He's worried about AOC primarying him.
She was on uh Town Hall with Bernie Sanders last night on CNN with Caitlin Collins.
We know that there's just there's just pure partisan uh politics at play here with Democrats, and they don't want to budge.
What's your message to them?
Well, they don't care about the American people, they're worried more about politics, power.
Schumer, as you said, he voted for the CR.
He really didn't want to back in the spring.
President Trump's first CR.
He voted for it, and he took a shellacking from the AOCs, the far left uh progressives of the Democratic Party.
And so he knows this time if he votes for it, he's dead meat.
Uh, he will not be back in the Senate after next year.
IOCO run against him and beat him.
So that's his problem.
Yep.
No, I I agree with you, uh, coach, and he's got a heck of a heck of a party to try and wrangle in.
I mean, we sometimes joke that the conservative movement is a bunch of rauco, independent-minded, hard to hard to control people.
But I actually think that the divide between sort of these moderate old school Democrats and the new left might be even more dramatic.
I mean, you know, to put a finer point on what we talked about earlier, Jack.
It's the left wing of the Democrat Party that if it's Democrat Socialists of America communist that is actually advocating for political violence.
Coach, we are so honored to have you.
Uh again, I know what a uh how much faith Charlie put in you, how much belief he had, and we we uh wish you all the best in your gubernatorial run in the great state of Alabama, and we will be seeing you in Auburn uh in just a few weeks.
Thank you.
Look forward to seeing you guys.
Talk to you soon.
Absolutely.
Thank you, Coach.
Thank you.
Talk to you soon.
I want to play a couple clips of Charlie talking about Islam, because he really was hammering this day in and day out.
Based based.
Uh, let's go ahead and play 253, how Islam is a conquering religion.
253.
For anyone that has eyes to see and ears to hear and actually reads the Kadith and reads parts of the Quran, you know that conquest is an Islamic value.
To submit is literally what Islam means.
To make those submit.
It's very hard to get serious Muslims to admit to this that they actually do want conquest, that they do want to take over.
Jack, I mean, ultimately that is what we're seeing kind of play out in places like London and now New York, and we have the debate huge debate that's going to be taking place tonight between Andrew Cuomo, Sliwa, and uh Momdani.
Mondani.
And so tonight, um, in lieu of thought crime, or you know, we're still doing the Thought Crime show, but it's actually going to be as Charlie would have wanted, by the way, a debate watch and then a debate reaction show.
So I want everyone to tune in this evening.
I think the debate starts 7 p.m.
Eastern.
So you don't need to worry about going to some other channel.
We will be streaming the program tonight on Charlie Kirk on the on the Charlie Kirk platforms, platforms and all the platforms, and then we'll be coming on afterwards.
Andrew, actually, you're gonna be flight.
I gotta catch the flight, but I'll do the pre-showing on the phone.
And I'll watch part of the debate, and then you guys are gonna take it from there.
Yeah, and we'll get um we'll get and Blake's on assignments.
We'll get we'll get Tyler, myself, Cliff Maloney, and you know, I want to get Mikey.
Yeah, actually we had him.
We had him last week on Thought Crime, and he's great.
Mikey's gonna be on the show tomorrow for our AMA.
So uh please join members.charleykirk.com, become a member and help us uh in this time, but also get to take part in our AMAs.
That's the only way to get to talk to Mikey.
That's the only way to call in is at a member.
Yeah, exactly.
Well, there you go.
So uh and you get to talk to Mikey, which is you know, wouldn't want to talk to Mikey.
I mean it's a big deal.
So, yeah, listen, um you know, look at this.
You see, uh go go ahead and throw up image two seventy-eight.
This is from July 7th.
The conservative movement needs to focus more time, energy, and focus on how Islam is rapidly taking over the West.
That's a Charlie tweet, 278.
We could go to another one, 279.
Which year is that?
That's his year.
This year this year.
And September 3rd.
This is seven days uh before.
You hear a lot of pundits fear monger about the rise of Christian nationalism right in front of their eyes, Islam is taking over public places and gaining political power.
Islam is a fundamentally political ideology that aims to conquer us military or militarily or demographically.
This is absolutely right.
277, Islam is the sword the left is using to slip the throat of America.
So it's a really tragic one.
Can I just say that?
Yeah, that was September 9th.
Yeah.
I mean, here's here's August 7th.
Mass import Islam, destroy America.
It's that simple.
Charlie was was raising the alarm bell.
He was he was uh being as loud as he could about this issue.
And I will not forget it.
You know what it was is because he went to Oxford and Cambridge because he was over there in London and he saw it with his own eyes.
That was one not the last foreign trip, but one of the last big trips that he did outside of the country.
And he came back, and the very first thing he did was identify what the problem was, and he just boiled it down to it's down to its bones, down to its very DNA is only Charlie could do, and said, guys, they're ahead of us, but we're on the same path.
We're on the very same path with Islam.
And then he was over there seeing what was happening.
Uh obviously he saw how bad the infiltration on campus was, but he saw it around the cities as well.
And uh, we saw, of course, the huge rally for Tommy Robinson, which had already been uh pre-scheduled the same week that Charlie was killed, and that that was very much a repudiation of the mass migration of Islam and third worlders into London.
And then because Charlie uh was murdered three days prior, I think I have the dates right there, it just became this connection of Charlie and Christianity and Western civilization, sort of all mixed together in one.
Charlie Charlie's mantra at the end was save the West.
Save the West, save the West.
And I think he he had wanted to travel internationally in 2023, 2024, but he said, America first, we're gonna stay domestic, we're gonna stay focused here at home.
We win the election, and he finally allowed himself to schedule a few trips.
And so, of course, he went to London, but then he went to uh Korea, the South Korea, and Japan as well.
I'm so glad he got to do that.
I'm so grateful because he really liked it.
Yeah, he actually liked it.
He loved how clean it was, and he was reminded that we don't have to live this way.
We do not have to live with crime and filth.
I mean, it's optional.
And yeah, it's it's all about political will.
We learned this with the border and so many other things.
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