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So uh we've got Mikey McCoy, Charlie's chief of staff, absolute roundabout, good man, and uh and and apparently a rising star, Mikey McCoy.
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Yeah, I'll take it.
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The real McCoy was the title I think we settled on.
I think I'm Admiral Andrew.
I Admiral Andrew, real McCoy, Blake GPT.
Yeah, yeah.
Whatever.
And Dr. Spock or whatever, just like spots.
I know it's a bottom.
You know, Captain Kirk would get all worked off, and then I'd be like, that's most illogical, John.
Literally do one of these things.
Most logical.
Yeah.
Um I see uh Alexis says, I'm seeing Muslims all over Michigan.
They are now allowing prayer in the middle of the street midday.
Are they here legally?
I have no idea.
Some of them probably are.
A lot of them are these refugee status.
Uh Savannah Hernandez with Turning Point uh frontlines did a amazing piece on the Somalis in Minnesota.
And most of them get but government benefits because they're here on some sort of temporary protected status.
Tons.
But they just keep getting extended, extended.
A lot of these will be chain migration, Alexis.
You said, Hey, can I get a response on my email?
And so the answer is yes.
I see you.
And um scene.
Yeah, it's a huge problem.
I mean, I don't know.
We s we currently apparently do not have the political will or desire to deal with it.
And on some level, I understand the administration is trying to trying to tackle a huge illegal immigrant problem, but the chain migration, legal my uh legal immigration needs to be reformed just uh is urgently, in my opinion.
So yeah.
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So, first question.
Uh Anthony is first.
Anthony, can you hear me?
Yeah, can you hear me, Andrew?
Yes, absolutely.
Hey Anthony.
Welcome to the show.
How you doing?
Thanks, guys.
All right, so gotta ask this.
Andrew, I know you're a Dodger fan, so it's okay.
Um where does the office stand with pulling for the Cubs?
Where's Danny?
I know I know Anthony stands before.
I I will for Charlie, I will I will be ecstatic.
Where's the Cubs win?
I just while we wait for Danny.
I'm a twins fan.
For those who don't follow baseball, the twins are a smoldering creator of a franchise.
They're doomed forever.
They will never be good again.
What?
That you're a twins.
Yeah, what?
It's not even your state.
You're a twin.
Someone find it.
Anyway, they're gonna be terrible forever.
They'll never ever be good again.
So I'm kind of just going into this like curvy.
Get in here, Danny.
Get over here.
Get over here.
Talking to my mic, get talking to my mic.
Right here.
Just ready to just talk to my mic.
You can lean in.
Whatever, wherever you want to go.
So Danny is uh from the same part of the world, roughly as Charlie, but Charlie and Danny would talk sports a whole lot.
Oh, yeah, big time.
Danny is an Ohio State fan, which is Oh, that's the number one team in the country, national champs.
We're gonna run it back this year.
Except for the Ducks are gonna win.
Because now I'm a Ducks fan.
Which is saying something because I'm actually a uh UW Husky, which those are our we had an expression that rhymes with ducks that involved the the name of that school.
And I'm putting all this putting all this aside to root for Charlie for Charlie.
Last night we were watching the Rams 49ers game, and Elizabeth goes, Since when are you like a sports fan?
It's like you can blame Danny and Charlie.
I I I didn't care about sports.
Now I'm a ducks fan and a cuz fan because of this guy.
So tell tell the audience how many games did it where were visible inside the tur uh the Charlie Kirk show office of this almost every day game.
Yeah.
We were in the office and the Cubs were playing, the game was on.
Yeah, and there's a there's a time difference too.
So you would if they were playing East Coast or Central Time.
Central time, two hour difference.
You would catch it.
It'd work out.
I mean, one of my last memories of Charlie in the office, actually, was just watching the Cubs play.
Oh, really?
Yeah, because we all went to we went we went to the Wrigley, we went to Wrigley Field together just a few weeks before Charlie passed.
And um I mean it was a really special moment.
We walked the field, hung out with the players, like a couple of those images went viral.
Yep.
Because I guess it was like controversial that they took a picture with Charlie.
But one of the players was it Michael Bush, who took a picture of Charlie, hit uh big home run last night.
And by the way, I'm not even a Cubs fan, Anthony, but I am this year.
Okay.
And if they won the it's it's it's okay.
I know you're a Dodger fan.
I am everything.
Listen, I want them to get to the NLCS together, and I want to go seven, and I want I want Matt Shaw to get the game winning the home run.
Well, he hit it off Otani, though.
What if that happens?
I'm so okay with that.
Otani's had enough.
It'll be Cubs and Phillies in the NLCS.
Phillies taking it, and there's a reason.
The Phillies taking it?
Yes.
Here hear my reason.
Hold on.
I know you're the shortstop on the Cubs and the Phillies and the DH on the Phillies personally.
So if Danny, you should know who the Cubs shortstop is.
Oh, uh Dan's B. Swanson.
He knows that then the Philly shortstop is uh Trey Turner, and then the DH is Kyle Schwarber.
Happen that I know all three of them.
So are you a sports guy?
Like are you is this your personality?
So I um I worked in the NHL in the NBA, and I currently work in college athletics as a consultant, uh handling marketing and communications, but I traveled to three college world series, and I had all those athletes in Omaha.
Uh so that's how I know them personally.
Well and then I had uh Trey Turner's best friend growing up on one of my college summer baseball teams.
Well, listen, Trey Turner uh used to be a Dodger, but then I think he got recruited by Bryce Harper to the Phillies.
So, anyways, Phillies have a great team.
I'm just glad Jack Pesobik's not here because he would be like all hooping and hollering about the Phillies and no thank you.
Anyways, uh God bless you, Anthony.
I think it's safe to say the office is pulling for the cubbies, even me.
Um so all for Charlie.
This year it's all about Charlie.
Yeah, throw throw cut uh three 367 up there.
This was cool.
That the Cubs actually did this for maybe we don't have it if we here.
I'm gonna I'm gonna send it to you.
Yeah, there you go.
367.
This is a picture, and it's uh 1776, Kirk Kirk.
It was uh they made jersey Charlie and Erica and it uh together it was 1776.
So I'm gonna photo that's online.
Didn't he run the scoreboard or something?
Yes, he did.
Yeah, that's right.
That's interesting.
I I haven't seen that picture, but I remember when they were like, hey, do you want to go up with them?
And Charlie was like, No, I'm taking Erica.
I was like, totally cool.
So yeah, that was great.
Uh thanks, Anthony.
Uh next question.
Elizabeth, I'm Elizabeth, next.
Can you hear hear us, Elizabeth?
Hi, I can hear you.
How are you today?
Um I'm well, thank you.
We've been praying for all of you guys.
You've been doing such a great thing.
Thank you.
Thank you.
I was a long-time listener.
And before what happened to Charlie happened to Charlie, except for Mikey, I knew all of you were, and I knew how much Charlie loved and respected all of you.
And you were going to do such an amazing job continuing his legacy.
I'll go to that.
Thank you.
Thank you so much.
Um, which led me to the Charlie problem, which is we're all trying to get back to Christ and Bible study.
And I went on to Christian Book.com to get a Bible with a larger font size, because I'm a little bit older.
And it led me down a rabbit hole.
And so there were all these sections for like apologetics, Calvinists.
There was like all this.
What's between apologetics and Calvinist?
And how do you decide which way to go?
And don't worry, I found an actual Bible study I'm going to be going to with a great church who by the way he did a Charlie Kirk memorial he had a bunch of threats we had so many police there and he stood his ground you guys would love him amazing I I really do love that love that story um I will say so you're comparing apologetics which is the defense of the Christian faith um and Calvinism which is a particular stream of Protestantism of uh you know which
is sort of known by the tulip, if you will, the five points of Calvinism, which is total depravity, unconditional election, limited atonement, irresistible grace, perseverance of the saints.
Those are the five points of Calvinism.
Even a lot of Calvinists are not five-point Calvinists, they're like three-point Calvinists, or they'll say four-point Calvinists.
So, Elizabeth, you'll hear people use this expression, Reformed theology, and usually it's a reference to Calvinism on some level.
Again, you got to be more specific with your questions when people are saying, oh, I'm sort of Reformed, or I'm Calvinist, because there's five points, and then there's three points, and there's four.
So, I know that's all very complicated, but a lot of young people, it's worth saying, are going back to either Catholic church, or they're going back to Reformed churches.
And so, those are probably the two biggest rising groups of the faith right now, especially with kids.
So, don't get bogged down on which particular stream of of Christianity I would say if they read the Bible they believe the Bible uh if they love Jesus if they follow Jesus um that's a pretty good starting point.
Now we've got open hand or closed hand and open hand of faith.
All right what do we have in the closed hand that is that Jesus is God he died on the cross for your sins and you need to repent and ask him to save you.
That's pretty much the closed hand.
If you want to go Calvinist, Arminianist, if you want to go Catholic or Christian, if you want to go pre-millennial, post-trib, pre-trib, if you want to go any of those infant baptism, adult baptism, I get less worried about that.
The thing is follow Jesus, give your life to him, repent and be saved, and let him, his perfect death on the cross, his perfect life and his death on the cross for your sins will cover you.
And yeah, it sounds like you found a great Bible study.
If they're defending Charlie vocally and vociferously, despite the Wokies, it sounds like you found a good one.
You want to add anything to that?
Thank you guys so much.
Yeah.
The other thing, too, that's really big is Calvinism and Arminianism.
So I don't know if maybe that's also what you're referring to there, but that's often kind of the debate between the two with free will.
Destination versus self-determination or whatever.
Humans having their ability to reject.
God bottom line is your salvation already being predestined yeah there's I believe that people can reject him they shouldn't but they have the ability to well were they predestined to reject him that's the question anyways it's a it's a never ending cycle if you want to be here all day yeah so but but the point is if your heart is leading you to a very close um relationship with Jesus Christ and you're trying to get to church you want to learn more about him and read your scripture I I would tell you this the the mark of a new Christian in my experience is that they just can't get enough of the scripture.
Yeah they just want to devour it and it's different for everybody I will say but I've just seen that that has been one repeat theme.
They just can't get their head out of the scriptures and um so read the Bible let it fill you let it fill your heart and again revival comes through repentance yeah when when the mass of people in a country or in a community just feel called to repent and give their lives to the Lord what is repentance metanoia right is the is the Greek and that means turning around means saying sorry and turning in the other direction.
So you I always think of it as you're marching straight to hell Jesus stops you on the way metanoia you turn around you say sorry and you march the other direction you go towards heaven and uh God wants what's best for you.
God bless you by the way and I I just love that it you know um have you already noticed just God speaking to you and and is your life changing I actually kind of felt and I don't want to be like supernatural but I tell you I felt like Charlie sent me there because it was a memorial for Charlie and he was always talking I used to love your faith in freedom nights that were my favorite my favorite thing that he would do and the pastor summits were so great like find a brave pastor.
I used to have a brave pastor and my old church, I don't want to go into it, but they went into allowing gay marriage, and then they fired my pastor because she wouldn't do gay marriage.
So I wasn't at a church for ten years.
And now the church that was baptized by the first one.
It's so bad.
Uh unfortunately.
I was baptized by my grandfather in my old church.
Wow.
So I've been meandering around trying to find a good church.
And also, I wasn't the best at Bible study.
It was always kind of beginning somebody who knows it, right?
It's a lot.
It's a lot.
Yeah.
This church is it was founded in 1750.
He's a very brave pastor.
He spoke about the trans insanity.
He got death threats when he won through the memorial for Charlie.
He stood firm on that.
There were a lot of police there.
He's a brave man.
He's a great pastor.
What's he doing?
And I just sort of felt like uh Pastor Hasselback.
Great.
Thank you.
What part of the country?
He's uh we're in Rockland County, New York.
God bless him.
He passed the test.
All right.
Go ahead, Blake.
Yes, so I feel like I could go there and I'm not gonna like be horrified what happens ten years later.
You know what I'm saying?
Like it was very hard to lose my first church.
Very hard.
I was thinking how tough that is.
Like my grandparents uh who've passed since you know, they're they they were ELCA Lutherans, that church embraced gay marriage, everything else, so they had to leave, but they were leaving a church, they had personally helped build the building it is, and there's so many little tragedies like that that have happened across American Christianity.
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Andrew Colvet here, executive producer of this fine show, where we remember Charlie, and we heap contempt and shame on those who choose to lie about him.
Can I get that shame?
I think we got a little sound effect for this.
Shame.
Shame.
Yeah, no, so yeah, so this is we'll see.
We'll probably be doing this on other things, and not necessarily always Charlie stuff, but we had to lead off with this.
We were debating who we would hit this week, and then I saw this in my email this morning, and I was like, We gotta hit it.
This is the target.
So Thomas Chatterton Williams is this very aggravatingly centrist writer.
Uh he like I think he lives in a castle in Europe or something.
Uh and yeah, and memorably last literally just last week, he wrote in response to the Charlie Memorial, this tweet that was essentially uh I you know I've lived in multiple different countries, but I've never felt as alienated as I did by this, because I had uh no understanding.
Oh, is this the same thing?
Same guy, same guy.
Oh, yeah.
Now this week in the Atlantic, yesterday, he has this article titled The Other Martyr.
MAGA has found its George Floyd.
And so he's twe he's tweeting about this and quoting all of this.
And yeah, so that's the article.
I think we have a photo of him too if you want to show it.
Yeah, we've got a bunch of images of this guy.
He's like for many uh so I'll just read a quote from this.
For many on the left, Floyd's asphyxiation turned a flawed and desperate man into a Christ figure, someone who bore the weight of the world's failings, and in so doing it cleared a path to fix them.
In the feverish weeks since Charlie Kirk's assassination, the Mega Rite is undergoing its own religious ferment, animated by a new martyr.
Just as the left used Floyd's death to justify and hasten all manner of political ends.
The right is invoking Kirk's name to advance illiberal aims and silence opponents.
All right.
I've got let's see, four minutes here.
I'm just gonna blow this guy up.
Shame him.
Yeah, shame.
First of all, let's say shame.
So but let's just be real here.
So first of all, if we're just going to compare these two.
I think you can judge.
Yeah, I think you can to some extent judge factions by who they decide to make into heroes.
So let's compare the life stories here between Charlie Kirk and George.
Yes, did you say that?
So let's just coffee house.
George Floyd.
George Floyd was essentially a career criminal.
He participated in a robbery where he held a gun to a woman's stomach.
Yep.
He was having an encounter.
He was repeatedly involved in drugs.
He has an encounter with a police officer that ends his life because he's trying to pass a fake twenty dollar bill at a gas station.
Can I just pause right there?
Two of the people that George Floyd was with that day did not freak out, and they are alive today.
Just for the record.
He is attempting to commit uh counterfeiting.
A police officer comes in.
It's unclear, but it seems very likely he basically swallowed a large amount of drugs he was afraid he would be caught with.
He freaks out in the back of a car, which causes him to be restrained.
He dies of this basically from a drug overdose.
And that is the sum of George Floyd's life, essentially.
Well, also follows it.
Yeah, so I I guess if you want to find similarities between them, you could say, you know, George Floyd, like, you know, committed armed robbery against an innocent person, and Charlie never committed armed robbery against an innocent person.
So they're kind of they're unified by this the scheme of robbery that one committed it and the other did not.
And you know, he I think he had a a you know, I don't believe he was married to the mother.
He had a child, I believe.
Uh yes.
Um Charlie, that's what I'm talking about.
Charlie did marry a woman and then had children with her who and he remained loyal to her and was a loving husband and was a frankly lived a model life for others to imitate.
If you were to imitate Charlie's life, you will be happy and successful and have a great family.
If you were to imitate George Floyd's life, you will probably die at a young age.
Just so you're aware, uh, he was forty-six and a father of five children.
So like let's go beyond that.
Okay, let's let's also compare it.
The Floyd and the uh Charlie Kirk moments.
After Charlie, we had zero riots, we had zero giant mobs like trying to torch big cities, we had uh zero people like trying to do a revelation, we had zero statues.
Never mind, so with zero statues toppled.
Whereas with Floyd, we have riots in DC.
We have riots in Minneapolis, we have riots in we have follow-on riots in Kenosha and everywhere else that are basically inspired by this with you know some new case to justify it.
We have an entire summer of Floyd with one riot after another.
We have literally thousands of businesses burned, looted.
We have them trying to put up this, you know, we support BLM.
Please don't burn us, burned down anyway.
We had a police station broken into by Antifa in Minneapolis and burned to the ground while the authorities of Minneapolis ran and hid.
We didn't have any of that for Charlie.
We had a big rally in a stadium to memorialize him.
I don't rally someone.
Wait, a big memorial trip in a stadium that was like a revival in which all the people who were there as security said, Wow, nothing bad happened, nobody was arrested, no problems.
It was the cleanest event they'd ever run.
Totally, in which Erica, his widow, forgave the murderer.
The the the most incredible act of Christian charity and forgiveness you will ever see in a public setting.
So yeah, actually, I'll I'll give you this.
Uh we are if you want to call this our George Floyd, I'll take that because I'll take that comparison every day.
Let's make that comparison.
Let's go.
Go off Blake.
Go off Blake.
And to this to this writer, what's his name again?
What's his name again?
Uh Thomas Chatterton Williams.
What a really estimately annoying for a person like that.
Chatterton Williamson Williams to have.
I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
That's how I feel.
All right.
Shame.
All right.
Alright, let's yeah, let's take another caller.
Let's take Greg.
Greg, can you hear us?
Guys, what's going on?
Uh we just we're letting Blake, you know, we all grieve in our own ways.
I think you know, uh Blake go off.
So that's how we're doing.
We're all in that mode right now.
Greg, what's your question?
Uh, just real quick.
Uh, just wanted to um thank you guys for everything you guys do.
I mean, Charlie was one of one and you know, Grand Canyon voy to fill, but you guys are doing incredible job.
Um, I just want to say that.
But real quick on immigration.
So um just wanted to get your take on it.
I'm Polish.
I'm from Poland originally, came here in 95.
Um, you know, got my green card, went through the whole ordeal process.
Now I'm a US citizen.
So it's you know, it's really infuriating what's going on with this whole immigration.
And and I don't know, I like what is the percentage of people like myself.
I'm hoping it's bigger than just very small, but that are infuriated by all the all this illegal stuff, and you know, just the democrats just being you know, throwing all these privileges and rights at them, and and here I am like just go through the process, like and and it's kind of infuriating to see all that happen.
No, it's it's profoundly insulting, is what it is, Greg, because it it's worse than just that you went through the process and other people are getting in without doing the process.
We make it like easier and better for the individuals who are violating the process.
Where if you just show up at our border illegally, you can do some cheat code to get temporary protected status, or you're an asylum seeker, and then you're eligible for way more stuff often than a person who actually comes here legally is in terms of programs.
You get a fast track to all sorts of stuff.
Whereas if you're trying to come here legally as like a high skilled person, there's so many hoops you have to jump through.
It's so difficult for everyone to hire you or do all of this.
And it is profoundly insulting, and I think it's something that is really underrated because the claim is always that anyone who came here as an immigrant is going to be angry if we restrict immigration in any way.
But I think your testament to the fact that no, a person who follows the law, a person who actually admires what made America great and came here for that, is going to be very angry at you know, a faction that just treats America as a giant pile of like money to be looted by the rest of the world.
So I I just want to say that I completely agree with you.
And I would also uh like to say as well that for young people, immigration is a total like they're they are the ones getting screwed over the most because what happens is we bring in all these H1Bs, which are technically legal, but it's it's a scam system.
But we also bring in all these illegals that'll work the hotel jobs and the restaurant jobs and the cooks and all this stuff.
And those are the jobs generations prior that were largely taken by high school kids that would be the entryway into a career.
Maybe they would start their own restaurant someday, maybe they would start their own hotel someday, but they never got started.
They get they end up getting sucked down some pathway on the internet or some Discord channel or some Reddit thread.
And this is you know, this is this is what's happening to a whole generation.
So we believe that you need to stop this.
Americans need to get the jobs, immigrants need to go home, and we need to dramatically uh reform and curtail our legal immigration system so that only people like you are getting through.
I saw this meme by the way, because Raheem Kassam is a friend of the show.
It the National Pulse as well.
Great, great website.
You need to check it out.
The nationalpulse.com.
And it's the meme was like, can can Rahim Kassam just be the final arbiter on who gets in and who doesn't?
I was like, that would be great.
Because Raheem is it is a good quality addition to the United States of America.
He's a patriot.
He came to the memorial, did a whole video about it, was beautiful.
But the point is there are good immigrants, but we are so fed up in this country with getting the the system gamed and having our people screwed over in the process.
It's a breakdown of the social compact because as a nation we owe it to our own people to make sure they're taken taken care of first.
And until somebody in Washington or some think tank can prove to me that our people are taken care of, then I'll I'm with Charlie Kirk on this.
I'll take an immigration moratorium as far as I'm concerned.
But I still like that people like you got in.
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You know, so this is funny.
There's a a whole move.
I mean, I'm telling you, things are coming out of the woodwork.
I don't know that Blake is on board with this, but there's a whole move of people that really want us to have a halftime show.
Counter programming.
I'm not kidding.
There's people putting up real opportunities.
So I would love to hear I email us, freedom at Charlie Kirk.com.
Do you think Turning Point should be involved in some sort of concert, maybe with Creed?
Yeah.
Maybe I people keep saying forest reading this.
I don't know.
Zach Burns.
Do we know if Creed would be into this?
I'm pretty sure the lead singer would be.
I don't know.
I'm hearing that the band might not be available, but the lead singer might be some somehow there's like a I'm not exactly sure.
Or we could do Taylor Swift.
Uh Michael Caboo.
Only if Nickelback can be there too.
Sorry, Michael Caboose.
Anyways.
Um next question here.
We have Jill.
Jill, are you there?
Hey, great.
Hey, um, we are in Missouri, and we have a bunch of adults that want to get involved like the kids.
Is there anything you can do to help us get started?
So I thought about this.
I've been thinking about this a lot, and I actually think that we probably need to do something on the action side.
So we already have an adult group, and it's called Turning Point Action.
And that is a I you're talking about, you know, you're you're upset.
Daisy gives me a little like preview, by the way.
So here uh that's so something they're passing, you know, you have politicians that are passing liberal laws, liberal agenda items.
And that would be a very political thing.
And so we already have an adult, or at least something that adults can get involved in.
We have a lot of young people also involved in that.
But turning point action is our is the 501c4.
So whereas Turning Point USA is the C3.
We don't do RNC stuff, we don't do candidate stuff, it's just conservative ideas, American pro-American ideas on college uh campuses, high school campuses.
The C4 endorses candidates.
The C4 goes and knocks doors.
The C4 has an app, and you can get out there and send letters, you can send postcards, you can do all those types of things uh through through the app.
So what we probably need to do is we just need to have like state chapters or something, or like chapters for turning point action where people can get involved in the grassroots.
Because right now, you know, we launched it in earnest ahead of the 2024 election, and that was a get out the vote uh campaign.
Really, that was the there was it does more.
There's like again, we have a scorecard, we rate candidates, we rate elected members of of Congress and the Senate, things like that.
But it sounds like we need we need to maybe ramp that up a little bit because we could create a standing army with chapters in these different states.
Uh and maybe there's local chapters.
I don't know where in Missouri you are, but we could do something like that.
But kind of we already have what you're talking about.
And you know, obviously we have our national events.
Amfest is an all-ages event.
So we we'll have, let's say, five, six, seven, eight thousand students.
I have no idea what it's gonna be this year.
Uh, I think we had like seven thousand last year, but but beyond the 7,000 young people, you had we had 21,000 people in Phoenix.
This year's gonna be much bigger, just simply because there's just so much more attention.
But they're you know, we're we're you can go to those two.
And there's a whole bunch of TP action programming that's also a part of Amphest.
We do breakout sessions, Tyler does a great job.
The whole action team does a great job there.
So that would be my answer.
Is that satisfactory to you, Jill?
Or uh are you that's very helpful.
What We're looking for really is the structure to build a club underneath at the state level.
We were part of the Republican club called the Papadrum Club.
It was not very satisfactory.
Last year, our club raised $25,000.
All of that's going to sponsor kids to Amfest and to other TPUSA events.
We have so far 12 people coming this year.
Great.
And we sent we sent seven girls to Dallas and one kid to Tampa.
Fantastic.
Fantastic.
So we are yeah, and actually Riley Gaines was our speaker at our event.
So we are we are totally all in.
We just need some structure to help us work.
I was gonna say, so I'm gonna pitch this idea to Tyler.
Obviously, we're drinking, we're all drinking through a fire hose right now.
You you can't imagine.
It's like every day people are contacting us about something else.
But this is this is actually something at a grassroots level that is that feels core to the mission and something we could say yes to.
So uh we have coalition teams, and maybe that's the way to do this.
But yeah, I think I think there's just so much need and desire out there.
Thank you, Jill, for the idea.
I will give an update if there's an update to be had because I I agree with you.
Um so thank you for your call.
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So next caller is Kelsey.
Kelsey, it sounds like you have a T Swift question.
Yes, I do have a Taylor Swift question, but I'm not a Swifty.
Okay, um so her new album just dropped, right?
And on her track wish list, she essentially states that people want to get rich and have things or experiences, but she just wants her man.
Um and she has a line in it that says, I just want you, have a couple kids, got the whole block looking like you.
Charlie talked about getting married and having kids, and even shared that he wanted that for Taylor when her engagement news came out.
And I like to think that Charlie, given his general dislike or maybe neutrality towards her, um, would really love that line and would just like your guys' thoughts on that.
I so I'll chime in first.
You guys feel free to fill in the blanks here.
But Charlie, one of the last sort of, if you will, controversies that Charlie was in was when he just said, Taylor, I hope this makes you more conservative, and I hope you get married, you have lots of babies.
And then he said, he said, But if you don't take his last name, you don't really mean it.
Yeah, and so which I still believe.
I still believe too.
And he was he was actually it's funny because he took all this heat for it, but he was like, and I remember Laura Ingram asked him about it.
Our Taylor Swift experts get her in the chair.
Yes, and by the way, you're gonna have to give a a baby update, Daisy as well.
But Charlie actually, actually, actually, in private group chat form, where it's you know, like people don't believe he was actually really happy about it.
He was like, This is good.
He wanted young people to look at her and see the example of Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey, disagreements aside, and said, I hope that they will follow in her footsteps, but just earlier.
Don't wait till you're like 34 or 35.
How old is she now?
34.
36, I think.
But I will say hi.
Hi, everyone.
How's the baby?
Great.
Sorry, are you naming your baby Taylor Swift?
No, no.
Blake actually thinks I should name my baby first name turning, middle name point, but I don't think it's a good one.
Last name baby.
This couldn't be enough.
How about Charlie Point?
Baby.
But okay, I will say, because we've had this conversation with Charlie before where he's like, I just wish that I'm glad she said I know I wish she would have done it sooner.
And Emma and I have told him every time, she all of her last albums, if you listen to them, she was in a relationship for like six years, and every song she's like, I want to get married, I want to have children.
This person kind of her last album was like, he blindsided me.
He did not want these things that he said he wanted.
So then I think that happens to a lot of women where then they end up 32, 33, 34.
Yes, haven't found someone.
Men do not waste women's time.
My admonition to you men in the audience, get in and get out if you know you don't want to keep going.
Do not linger on, do not waste her time.
That goes both ways, by the way.
But that I have seen that particular that particular dynamic play out so many times.
I mean, even I remember we talked about this, Yumi and Charlie when her last album came out, and it that was right after the breakup, and she said, I'm I'm mad essentially that you let me give you all that youth for free, like just feeding me all these lies to keep giving that to you.
So now I'm I'm really happy for her.
Charlie was happy for her.
That's also on the woman, though, because I'm telling you, if a man wants to marry you, what do you what do you think the appropriate Question for the audience.
I'd love freedom at Charlie Kirk.com.
Tell me what you think.
If you are a woman or a man who wants to get married to your boyfriend or girlfriend.
At what point do you say, if you're not going to commit to me, I'm done.
I'm moving on.
I love you and I want this to work, but if you're not going to commit to me, I gotta I gotta cut this off.
At what point do you because it wasn't she with him for like four years?
Yeah.
So that's way too long.
That's way too long.
A long time.
Um, I went on my first date with my husband when I was 19.
Yeah.
And essentially on our first day, I was like, either we are going to be exclusive and be in a relationship, or I'm not interested in dating you or really being your friend.
And then he was like, Oh my gosh.
Okay, we're we're gonna be together now.
And so I it works when girls do that.
I'm just saying.
And the other thing too, he instantly called those four other girls and told them it's no.
Okay, if you're listening.
The other thing too is, you know, a lot of young Christian people save themselves for marriage.
And so when you're dating and when you're engaged, common weapon that worked historically, you know.
In Elizabeth and I, our case, you know.
We wanna we wanted to get it done.
We wanted to get quick.
That does tend to incentivize getting married.
So yeah, it's a it's your point.
It's a it's a uh it's a very uh advanced form of societal tech.
Yeah.
Monogamy.
And last conversation we had with Charlie.
Why is monogamy good?
And why is traditional European Christian monogamy great?
This is crazy.
It's like it's actually insane when you look at how much better it is than alternatives.
And you look at societies that don't have it, and like the men and women hate each other.
You look at our society where men and women have way more conflict than they did in the past.
The Christian view of marriage is actually so great for curbing the worst impulses of both men and women and making them work together as partners.
You don't have men stringing along women.
You don't have them victimizing women or preying on them.
Women, you don't have them like constantly trying to upgrade to a higher status guy, doing polygamy.
All of that.
No, you're you're right.
And here is 156.
This was Charlie talking about T Swift getting married.
This is something that I hope will make Taylor Swift more conservative.
Engage in reality more and get so outside of the abstract clouds.
Reject feminism.
Submit to your husband, Taylor.
You're not in charge.
And most importantly, I can't wait to go to a Taylor Kelsey concert.
I can't say it without laughing.
You gotta change your name.
If not, you don't really mean it.
Congratulations, Taylor.
He meant that.
All right, Daisy.
Okay, I just want to say back to our caller, Kelsey, your question.
Um Emma Kate was texting me about the album last night, and she was like, I wish that Charlie, we could tell him about this song because I have the lyrics put up here, but she's like, Everyone wants to go on spring break.
They want dogs that they can call their kids.
They want a yacht, they want an Oscar.
And she literally says, I just want you, a bunch of kids dreaming about the driveway with a basketball hoop, settle down.
Wow, got a wish list.
I just want you.
And Charlie We were proven.
Charlie's prophetic.
I'm gonna read the lyrics to the woods song now.
No, I'm okay.
I haven't I don't even think I've listened to the show.
I do want to just ask the caller, how do you feel that your first name is gonna be Taylor Swift's last name?
I've thought about that and I'm a little uncomfortable, but our name is spelled differently.
So there you go.
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Alright, so we uh we've had just a really this hour just flies by every every time.
Do we are we done with shames?
Do it like just one shame this hour, right?
I don't know, Blake.
Do you want to do another one?
It would be two minutes to shame.
Do you have one you want to hit?
No.
You don't Tahanisi Coates, Nicole Hannes Jones, Don Lamont, the JB Pritz.
People don't like it when we talk about Don Lamont, by the way.
I saw your emails.
I saw you.
Don Lamon.
Oh man, who which one do we want to go after here?
There's so many.
Um there are way too many.
Look at this.
Yes on a Creed concert at halftime.
One million times yes, have Creed, any rock 90s Christian band that hasn't sold out, and yes, do it.
The whole USA would support you.
You have the opportunity to ratio the stupid halftime show and reveal the heart of the nation.
Do it.
That's from Aaron.
I love that.
Should we do an Elon Omar shaming?
Oh, we could do that one.
Yeah, let's do that one.
Let's do 138.
Shame.
All right, 130 is shame.
Shame.
And so the idea that this is a white nation that needs to be preserved.
Um is a fascinatingly um disgusting view because this country is one for the many.
It's one for the many.
It's one for everyone on planet earth, including Ilhan Omar and her dad, who like worked for like a dictatorship in Somalia that got overthrown, so that they can come here and she can marry her brother, which I'm just gonna say because it's 100% true.
Yeah.
And if she thinks it's not true, like, you know, it's please sue me, Ilhan Omar, because I'm pretty sure it's true.
And this should be investigated to basically commit immigration fraud, steal a bunch of money.
Like what a disaster.
Like it's so bad what's happening in America where you can have a lawmaker come in and say, I look out for the interests of Somalia first.
And there's not really anything we can do about this because she now is in the government.
She is controlling the lever.
That would do what we should do, which is deport her back to Somalia.
Is there a way to denaturalize?
You can if you did crimes or fraud while getting your immigration, like while getting your citizenship.
But that's that feels oddly specific and relevant to this particular conversation.
Shame.
Shame.
Shame on Ilhan.
Shame.
Our next caller here.
Uh we have Mary.
Mary, are you there?
We are ready for your question.
I am.
Hi guys.
Sorry about the background noise.
We are traveling at the moment.
You're fine.
But I wouldn't say you guys, I am so impressed with how you guys are carrying on the show.
Um it it's still surreal, you know, to us that you know Charlie's gone, but it feels like he's still here.
Um, Erica has been such a source of just power.
It's been amazing to watch.
Um, but my question, I'm actually curious if you have some advice on you know, with the current turmoil and division that's going on.
Um, what practical role do you think the local church could offer to young people that the digital world can't?
Um that would inspire them to choose faith over fear and actually come back in person to church.
Mikey.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Um You're young.
You know church.
Yeah, I mean, I've seen them in the church before.
It's true.
Yeah, I yeah.
I kind of dabble in all of it on the on the weekdays.
Sometimes maybe I'll go to a mass or something on the weekends, go to another church.
As much Jesus as I can get, but uh right now for young people, the biggest thing is like Forrest Frank, hearing from Christian artists, going back to church, but then also I I'm seeing from messages I'm getting are young people coming to our turning point events.
Um so a lot of them are like wanting to come to America Fest, wanting to plug in.
By the way, we do a Sunday service and worship service at America Fest.
Yeah, we do.
So every Sunday.
So it and I think there is like this thing, Mary.
I we I I've been talking about it a little bit more and more and more, but this, you know, this idea of new wine and new wineskins, right?
You can't put new wine in old wineskins because it will burst, right?
That's the parable uh that Jesus gives us.
And I think God is doing something new with the new generation, so don't force what he's doing into an old paradigm, into like the image that you have in your head of what it's supposed to look like.
Because there is this the old way was kind of bifurcating the gospel message and a political message or a cultural message or whatever.
I think that God is saying our whole lives have to be integrated.
Our patriotism, our faith, you know, they're gonna call this like Christian nationals or something.
I'm not saying you need to vote for this candidate or that candidate.
Um it might mean that.
It oftentimes probably does mean that, but but we don't have to make it about that.
What we just what we just have to say is don't bifurcate your life.
Integrate your faith, just like Charlie did.
And I think when it just comes off naturally and and you're just honest about what's informing your political views or your cultural views, there's people respect that, and I think it's a lot more natural.
So just I would just say be open-minded.
And to Mikey's point, I think it's a great idea.
Send them to send them to Amphest.
Send them to Amphest.
Yeah, send them to or to get it plugged in at local chapter meetings, and just have community.
That's the key.
We're gonna get to one last question here.
Tracy, who's in Portland.
Tracy, what's what's your question?
60 seconds.
Uh hi there.
I have 60 seconds to talk.
Is that what you're saying?
Yeah, it's a quick one, sorry.
Oh boy.
Um, well, I'll fire off the questions.
Yeah, I'm a fourth generation Oregonian.
I have uh two generations that follow me, so I'm old enough to be your mom's.
And three questions this morning.
How do I support sorter uh Nick Sorter, who was arrested and released this morning uh in Portland, down at the riots.
And then same with another gal uh that was hit in the face.
Anyway, how can I support Katie?
You know, I live uh I have a hundred acres, twenty minutes from Portland.
Yeah.
Can give them a place of respite.
Oh, that's so quiet.
Yeah, so yeah, I'll just say this really quick, just because we're running out of time.
So Harmete Dillon has is on the case, and she is going to be uh looking into the Portland PD because you shouldn't be arresting journalists, you should be arresting Antifa.
You should be arresting rioters.
So raise your voice as loud as you can.
Tell the world on social media, have Nick Sorders back and Katie Davis course back, who's also been involved with Turning Point USA in the past.
