Islam Against America: My Speech at the Pastors Summit
Islam is rising across the lands of the formerly Christian West. Is Islam really just another faith among many? Is it equally compatible with Western civilization? Charlie argues the answers are "No" and "No." Islam is a unique threat to the West and will overrun it if not taken seriously. It's a warning that all Christians raised in the fog of decades of pro-diversity propaganda. Watch every episode ad-free on members.charliekirk.com! Get new merch at charliekirkstore.com!Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.
Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus.
I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.
Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.
I want to thank Charlie.
He's an incredible guy.
His spirit, his love of this country.
He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.
We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
That's why we are here.
Thank you, everybody.
Please take a seat.
Thank you.
What a wonderful turnout this is.
This is amazing.
Thank you.
I've been all over the country the last couple of days and it is special to be able to end the week here with the most important thing, which is to strengthen the church, to make sure the church is able and equipped for this moment.
And I just want to first praise the TPUSA faith staff that have been working so hard on this event.
If you see them, thank them.
They've worked so hard on all the little meticulous details.
I also want to thank so many of the supporters that made this possible.
I don't know if I'm, I don't know if I'm allowed to say your name on stage, so I'll just say thank you for those who donated to make this possible.
So very generous and very remarkable.
So I want to share a couple, I want to share two things.
One is a really fun kind of cultural victory and then one of a threat that I'm afraid the church is not talking about enough and then we'll do some question and answer.
So as you know, I go to college campuses so you guys don't have to.
I've been doing it for the last 13 years.
Go and set up a card table, come to the front of the line, ask a question and we kind of have a nice back and forth.
And they've gone somewhat viral, as you know.
We are unapologetically Christian.
We believe Christ is Lord, Christ is King.
We believe in the inerrancy of Scripture.
We stand against the abortion industry, against the transgender nonsense, against the open border nonsense.
And we do so on a college climate where that does not always win you friends in favor.
But I think that's been kind of one of the kind of magic elements of what we've been able to see this be so successful.
And so over the last couple of years, we've been putting these videos up on social media and billions and billions of people have watched these videos.
And I bet some of you might have seen the videos once or twice or your kids or your grandkids.
And it's it's really amazing because you never know the impact that you're making, right?
And praise the Lord, President Trump won back in November.
God granted grace on this nation and bought us some time.
And one of the reasons why President Trump was able to win is younger voters moved almost ten points to the right.
In fact, young men are the most conservative generation that we've seen in fifty years.
And Gen Z is the most Christian generation that we have seen in the last fifty years.
That's more important than conservative.
In fact, church attendance is finally going a little up.
The top music on Apple Music is predominantly Christian music.
Young people are going back to the faith.
They are looking up.
They're not just looking up their screen.
This is positive, wonderful developments that we are seeing.
But you have to always kind of think, like, okay, so we know that these cultural movements are happening, but does the other side see us?
Are we kind of making a dent or making an impact?
And so I try to avoid all the degenerative content degenerate content out there.
But apparently last week someone sent me a clip.
There's, hey Charlie, you're going to be profiled on South Park.
And so you're not familiar about South Park.
It's not exactly biblical.
However, God works in mysterious ways.
I'm about to show you something, how only God can make South Park biblical, right?
So we do these campus events, we do these debates, we do this back and forth, and billions of views later, all of a sudden, kind of the thing where we go to college campuses and we have that back and forth, and we're bringing people closer to Jesus and we're bringing them away away from leftism and away from Marxism and towards conservative values has obviously made a difference.
And so last night they aired this entire episode with the obvious intent to try to make fun of us and to mock us.
And honestly, I take it in good kind of step.
It's a sign that what we're doing is working and that it has impact and real cultural weight, right?
Not just that we're just talking to the converted, but we are going out and being salt and light in a broken culture.
And so that's the way I view it.
Not in any of my wildest imaginations could I have imagined that we would get South Park to be able to quote a Bible verse word for word in defense of the unborn.
I'm telling you, this is Genesis 50:20, everybody, right?
What the enemy meant for evil, God will use for good.
And so just enjoy, I think it's like a 14 second clip.
By the way, for those of you that watch a lot of our videos, you'll notice the little detail of the water bottle sip in between.
You notice that's kind of a thing that gotta stay hydrated on these campuses.
And I gotta tell the South Park creators, they crushed the hair.
I gotta tell you, they got it right.
So enjoy this little snippet here.
We'll watch this together.
Oh my God, what makes you think you have the right to say what I do with my body?
Let me ask you something.
If a pregnant woman is killed and the baby dies too, why is the killer charged with the double habitat?
Well, but because people have different beliefs.
It's not about belief, it's about truth.
Science confirms life begins at CEP.
And there's another one where he, this character who apparently was playing me or whatever, um, quotes Jeremiah 15.
I knew you before you were in the womb.
And so goes to show just the power and the penetration and the virality of what we've been able to do.
And I want that to just be a sign, everybody, that sometimes you can be doing this very difficult work when you can be outnumbered, where you can be in the ideological or worldview minority, and you can make a phenomenal difference.
And really the lesson I take from that is, you know, they were trying to make fun of us.
And again, in some essence though, what we listen carefully, which is that it doesn't matter about your feelings, it matters about truth.
And all of you as pastors, you are in the truth business.
You're not in their truth business, you are in the truth business.
And when you are appealing to a higher standard above your own feelings, your own directive, that's when you as pastors know you are doing your job and you are doing it well.
And so I just want to say thank you to the creators of South Park for witnessing to an entire generation and making the culture understand the arguments of pro life and scripture and all that fun stuff.
And so I want to now transition.
I want to praise a lot of you in this audience that are, first of all, here for the first time, are here at a TPUSA faith event.
We started this project a couple of years ago.
Lucas Miles is doing a phenomenal job running it.
Rob McCoy has been such a great mentor of mine.
And I have so many friends in the audience that I can shout out and generally.
And Jack Hibbs has just been incredible, and Frank Turek, and so many people.
And we started this project with a mission statement that still remains true to this day.
But we're actually one of the few Christian ministries that can say we've actually made progress since we started in the last couple of years, which is we wanted to kick wokeism out of the American church.
Now, we're not there yet.
Now, what is wokeism?
At its core, of course, it is it represents itself as diversity, equity, inclusion, critical race theory, oppression Olympics, caring about the race of your congregants.
All that stuff has no place.
But at its core, where it goes, it's a demonic unclean spirit that will go after the inerrancy of Scripture, the lordship of Jesus Christ, the truth of the resurrection, and Christianity at its core.
It is a deconstructionist virus that has found itself in too many seminariums, too many youth pastor areas, and then too many parts of our churches.
We must stand as guardians, watchmen, or watch women, but watchmen on the wall against this infiltration of the American church to try to destabilize our youth first and our elders second, to try to question what God has told us through Scripture.
And wokeism does that better than anything else.
Wokeism is an analytical tool that makes you question the truth of the Scriptures.
And I'll be honest, we're making progress in this way.
There's many pastors that are here today that you would not have been ever caught at a TPUSA event four years ago.
I'm going to say, I'm glad you're here.
This is where you should be.
And thank you for being here.
And it's not a matter of like, hey, by the way, I find when we do these events at times, there's a little bit of like a kind of a little bit of a contest.
Oh, I opened my church in June of 2020.
Well, I opened it in August.
And, you know, it's kind of like, okay, we're glad you're here.
That chapter happened.
And let's just all agree, we're never locking down the church again.
It's never going to happen.
Okay?
And so I believe that God used the evil of the lockdowns and the terrible aspects of the virus as a way to wake up so many of you of the cultural influences that made themselves into the church.
Now some people say, Charlie, I don't like how TPUSA faith is trying to get politics into the church.
Our contention actually is we want to kick Marxist politics out of the church and it's not political, it's biblical.
You see what we are doing is a defensive strategy against an offensive infiltration that has been occurring over the last fifty years.
And do you see the kind of shaming?
They're like, oh, Charlie, you're doing this Christian nationalist thing.
Oh, time out.
What we're actually doing is for us shedding ourselves of a framework, of a dialectical tool that leads you in the direction of a pastor on Sunday saying, well, maybe the Bible is just a series of stories and you don't need the Old Testament.
You see, deconstructionism leads you to that moment.
And eventually that pastor will say, all faiths lead you to heaven.
There's many ways to eternity.
Because once you start questioning the inerrancy of too many seminaries begin down that road because everything is processed through a worldview.
This is what I tell our kids every single day on college campuses.
You might think you do not bring a worldview worldview to the table, but everybody brings a processing matrix of how you input information and what you process it through.
We believe scripture and God's word is how we process the information that we are consuming.
We then hold it to God's perfect and pleasing will.
All of it.
Now, somebody else, if all of a sudden you have a deconstructionist analytical tool, they're going to be like, well, maybe I should, I'm going to hold it.
And that is a demonic tool to try to undermine the basis of the American Church.
But I think we're making progress.
I really do.
And we're seeing more and more churches start to distance themselves from that kind of deviation and that detour.
So many pastors that marched in BLM parades and locked down and did mass mandates, some of them have repented and some of them have quietly repented.
And honestly, we should be open arms to say, welcome back.
You made an error.
We want you back in alignment with God's word.
There's no shame in that.
We make mistakes.
There's no like, hey, I'm a better pastor than you because I didn't do that or I'm a better church than you.
We all fall short of the glory of God and we all have missteps.
And those that seek reconciliation and repentance and come back to God's perfect and pleasing will, we should accept them back no different than the prodigal son.
And so I feel as if we're making progress on that.
And I think we've had a lot of speakers talk about that these last day and a half.
However, I'm afraid that we as the American church and this room can change that.
Because I think there's another politically incorrect thing around the hill.
You see, that's what I try to do.
I try to find the thing you're not yet allowed to talk about.
And then once you guys are allowed to talk about, I'm like, okay, you guys handle that.
I'm going to go find the next threat to the church and the next threat to Christendom.
That's where I feel my role because I can, I say stuff that you're thinking that you can't say.
I say it loudly and that's kind of my whole, you know, one of my sticks.
And it is in front of us.
And it is, it, we have wokeism on one side.
But on the other side, there is a, there is a bimodal axis that is working in concert to suffocate Christendom.
Now, Western civilization is Christendom.
This is our project.
We as Christians founded the West.
Now, we love so many of the other.
people that may be of different faiths, but this is a uniquely Christian project.
55 out of 56 of the signers of the Declaration of Independence were Bible-believing, church-attending Christians.
Almost every single of the original states at the founding father era required a declaration of faith in order to serve in government.
Almost every single one of the original colonies had their own theological or denominational allegiance, whether it be Presbyterian or Quaker or Congregationalist, or Maryland would be Catholic.
The founding fathers were explicitly Christian.
And so in Christendom, we found, we almost are afraid to talk about it, this amazing, prosperous civilization that has given us the wealth beyond our wildest imagination, that gives us charity and gives us generosity and gives us protection of individual rights and gives us all these things that sometimes we take for granted is under attack from yes wokeism, but also Islamism.
And now we're going to get to the point where a lot of pastors are afraid.
Now let me tell you, I'm uniquely positioned because I get death threats from two different types of jihadis, purple haired jihadis and actual jihadis.
And if this conversation makes you a little uncomfortable, I'm here to push you and prod you.
you because you as a pastor need to make sure that your flock is prepared for the infiltration and the invasion of Christendom, Western civilization, from not just the Marxist angle, but from the outright Islamist angle that is happening via mass immigration, infiltration, and non-assimilation practices under Akla and under Islam.
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Now let me just first say, I think there's two categories here.
The first category is Christian pastors that are completely unaware of this.
They're kind of just doing their job and they're like, oh, it doesn't affect me.
I really don't impact me and we're not going to really talk about this.
I think that's a mistake.
The second of which are pastors that know the threat but are afraid to talk about it.
This reminds me of 2020 in some ways.
This reminds me when pastors, we were in rooms like this, we're like, am I really around to talk about the lockdowns?
Am I really allowed to talk about wokeism?
I don't know.
Maybe we should have a diversity committee at our church.
And we laugh about it now.
However, I'm telling you, in the year of our Lord 2025, the equivalent is that right now there is a red, we talked about Marxism, green Islamism alliance.
to destroy Christendom and to deprive the American church of our rightful role of being the primary cultural influence of this civilization.
So what are we supposed to do do?
Well, let me just kind of further terrify you.
I could play hundreds of videos like this.
This is in New York City.
Can we play this video of this?
This is in New York City, right?
*Russian music*
Great.
And thousands of people show up.
You guys have seen the videos.
You've seen the stuff on college campus.
How did this first happen?
Well, first of all, we invited this menace into our country.
And this is important.
This did not happen because we had a southern open border.
This did not happen because it was illegal.
This was Christian generosity that was taken advantage of.
As it says in Deuteronomy 28, one of the last things Moses said in his farewell address to the people of Israel is, be careful who you allow, and I'm paraphrasing, in the nation of Israel, because the foreigner can soon become your master.
Now, a lot of you say, but Charlie, immigration is our strength.
Immigration is wonderful.
Immigration can be wonderful.
It is not by default a wonderful thing.
No different than nuclear power can be used to power a city or to have Hiroshima or Nagasaki.
But we need to talk very seriously as an American church and we need to be speaking out unafraid about the theological and the spiritual implications of what's happening here.
And I'll be very honest, I have been underwhelmed by the American church taking the role.
We're good on the wokeism thing now.
Now, that's the call to courage I want to have for you.
Because we are about to enter a moment where the two previous Christian centers of the West are about to both have Muslim mayors.
Don't tell me this is not a big issue.
You're about to have Sadiq Khan in London and Zoran Mamdanin in New York City, largely made possible by our mass open immigration policies.
But here's where a step further we need to understand.
If any of you have had the opportunity to go to Europe recently, it is an unrecognizable continent and understand how this all works in harmony together.
Step one, secularize the society.
That's the wokeism, deconstructionism, oh, Christ is not Lord.
He was just kind of like a motivational speaker.
He was like Tony Robbins in the Mediterranean, right?
These are good ideas.
So all of a sudden people become more secular.
So then they become weak.
They don't have children.
They don't get married.
They become fragile.
They become infertile.
And so therefore Europe kind of becomes a former shell of itself.
And they say, well, if we want to have economic growth, we can bring in a bunch of Muslim refugees.
And as I will articulate through several pieces of teaching in the Quran and in core Islamic theology, and my friend Andrew Sedra has talked about this at length, that it is not an accident this is an architecture this is not a one-off this is a strategy to create a world global caliphate and you might say well this is kind of like conspiracy theory you
know what's the difference between conspiracy theory and truth wait three years just wait a couple years now We know that Europe has largely fallen.
So they secularize and then they invite and you see this combination.
What do we tell the women of the West to do?
Go have as much sex as possible, get on the birth control pill, and have abortions.
So we don't have kids, but we're going to go import a bunch of people that are going to have kids.
Number one birth name in the top cities in Europe, Mohammed.
Not Mitchell, not Mark, not Montesquieu, Mohammed.
And it is a strategy to take over through the silent means of mass reproduction.
And the church is like, well, we're told that we have to open our arms to...
to the immigrant and all that.
Let me be very, I could do a whole speech on the inerrancy, on immigration teaching in the church.
Nowhere in the Gospels does it say you should commit suicide via mass immigration.
Period.
That is not a teaching in the Bible.
Nor does it say you should invite your future masters who don't believe what you believe and actually don't want you to keep on having to be able to do it.
So in America, we are dancing with this issue.
The mayor of Minneapolis will be a Muslim soon.
But you might say, come on, we as Christians, we can coexist.
It's interesting.
I love Frank Turick.
He's phenomenal.
And he says, Charlie, you know that there's over 1.% of all Christian missionaries end up going to Muslim countries.
Why is that?
Because they're going to have their head chopped off, that's why.
Not exactly tolerant and open.
And that goes at the kicker where I have now I get a lot of good feedback on this one, but I love it.
I'm I honestly, I'm not meant for just the easy stuff.
I want the tough fights that other people aren't saying.
Islam is not compatible with Western civilization, period.
People say, but Charlie, it is radical Islam.
Now I say this as we all have individual Muslim friends that we like and that we pray for.
In Scottsdale, you know, one of the people that has helped me, you know, a primary care doctor previously, he's a devout Muslim.
He individually is a good person, even by Christian standpoint.
I'm not talking about individual.
We're talking about the macro ideology where many of them gather together and what that metastasizes into.
So I want you to try to filter out any individual interactions because that is a distraction from what is happening civilizationally.
And so we see in the country not just the birth rate, but also three words that I want you guys to know about.
Well, the third one is by far the most controversial that credits my security team.
We're going to have a whole other security threat profile, but they can't kill us all, and I'll meet you in heaven first if they try.
So, which is, by the way, let me be very clear.
The fact that we even have to be afraid of our personal security, of criticizing a worldview of people we invite into our country, shows that we shouldn't invite those people into our country anymore.
Like, oh, I need personal security because I criticize your religion.
What happens when you criticize Christianity?
Let me come to my Bible study.
Can I make you a casserole?
Criticize Islam.
You got a machete at 6 a.m. or something.
Not everyone, but you and I all know that there is an intolerance.
Three major things in three words.
Number one, how is it incompatible?
Number one, we as Christians believe in freedom of speech.
We believe that it is our birthright.
Islamists do not believe in freedom of speech, period.
You cannot question Muhammad.
You cannot make fun of him.
You cannot question the state.
Number two, they do not believe in freedom of expression or freedom of religion.
And the most important, we as Christians, we want some daylight between the state and religious institutions.
We want a little bit of daylight.
I think we've had too much daylight, honestly, but we want some.
Islamists, they believe in the intentional integration of mosque and church.
There is no separation.
You see, there is not this idea that the state is where you go and vote and you kind of get your police force and then you go to the church and they're separate.
That's a uniquely Protestant idea, by the way, just so we are clear.
It is a Protestant idea that we separate those.
In Islam, they're one and the same.
In Islam, the state is given authority by Allah to spread their messaging and their whatever view that they have of stuff.
So those are three ways it's not compatible.
Three words I want to share with you, and they'll get more important as I go on.
The first of which is taqiyah.
And Andrew Sedrant will know what this means.
Basically means in Islam, in the verses, you are allowed to lie.
You are allowed to deceive in front of God as long as it advances the aims and goals of Islam.
You are allowed to masquerade a different version of yourself.
And Andrew, am I making this up?
Andrew grew up in Egypt, and he also has the jihadis after him.
And he knows this stuff much better than I do.
The Qiyah is a foreign concept to those of us as Christians.
Because what is the ultimate value claim of Christianity?
It is truth.
Because our Lord and Savior is truth, and truth became flesh.
At the top of all of it, it is truth.
In Islam, it is not truth.
Truth is not the ultimate Islamic value.
It's not.
It's power.
It's domination.
Subjugation.
Conquer.
Conquest.
And I'll get to that in a second.
The second of which is Uma, UMMAH, which is a global caliphate.
You see, we are called to make disciples of all nations by winning them over, by converting them with songs, praise, teaching, scripture, prayer.
Islam is taking over by force.
There's a reason why it is a religion of the sword to create a global caliphate.
And now the third, which will get me in the most trouble, and that's fine.
But it needs to be said, because everyone's afraid of this.
Islamists will say that Muhammad is the greatest man ever to live.
We should invite that comparison and say it daily and openly and say, okay, you want to talk about the greatest man ever to live.
Let's just start with what we know about Muhammad.
Muhammad was a depraved, genocidal warlord who killed everybody in sight, including women and children, massacred them.
It's interesting.
Maybe they're taking after the person they believe is the greatest man ever to live.
And now the third word that will get me in a lot of trouble, but you need to know about it because this is what's infecting the West.
It's a disgusting ideology, which is Aisha.
Anyone know what that is?
What is Aisha?
Aisha was the wife of Prophet Muhammad.
He married her at age six.
How many did not know that?
Raise your hand.
Look around.
This is keep your hands up.
I'm not here to shame you.
This is a room of Christian leaders and pastors, and you don't know that the number one religion that's growing in the West, the greatest man ever to live, married a girl at age six.
Meanwhile, on the other side, we believe the greatest man ever to live, Christ our Lord said, It's better for you to have a millstone hung around your neck than to lay a hand on any of these children.
Interesting comparison here, right?
Oh, it gets more interesting.
Let me read from, quote, the prophet married me when I was six years old and then consummated the marriage with me when I was nine years old.
Mind you, they're not saying that like he had good ideas or he should reference the greatest man ever to live, the ideal that was given all this divine revelation.
Continues, Aisha, Allah be pleased with her, right?
Allah's apostle married me when I was six years old and I was admitted to his house at the age of nine.
These hadiths are considered.
authentic in Sunni Islam and appeared in both Bacari and Muslim, the two most authoritative collections.
So this is a, you're looking at this from a worldview standpoint, like, wait a second.
So on our side, we have, one side you have a conqueror, genocidal maniac, engaging in the flesh, nothing new like every other conqueror from Alexander the Great to Genghis Khan.
Okay, but Christ our Lord said, blessed are the peacemakers.
He turned the other cheek.
He accepted the punishment and defeated the grave and was raised on the third day, defended children, said it'd be better for you to have eternal punishment if you dare put a hand out.
It's not even close.
And look at the fruit of both of these worldviews.
What is the fruit of this worldview?
Conquest, October 7, massacre, subjugation, tyranny, totalitarianism.
The fruit of this is the greatest nation ever to exist in the history of the world, Christendom.
So I will close with this, then we'll do some questions.
Pastors, Christian leaders, I have a good track record with this.
When I speak boldly about something that's not yet in the news, it's because I might see something as a pattern recognition.
We talked about wokeism before it was cool back in 2017, 2018, 2019.
Remember when I was talking about college campuses, I said it was a scam?
And I think we all kind of agree, like, oh, yeah, I guess I might have been right about that.
We have an opportunity, though.
We have an opportunity to say no more.
We have an opportunity, honestly, to bring some of these Muslims to Jesus, which is what our wish should be.
We should try to evangelize the Muslim population in this country and to bring them to Christ.
But most importantly, we as the church should never sit idly by and roll over and allow our birthright brought to you by the courage of Christians of generations past to be desecrated by mass immigration of a worldview that wishes to slit the throat of many of us in this room.
Thank you guys and let's do some questions.
Thank you.
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Yes, we'll do a couple and then I don't want to keep you guys too late.
Anyone?
Yep.
I'm just wondering, what do you think makes you tick that you want to be out in front of everyone else with these hard issues?
I don't know.
I don't get people that don't.
This is why I'm drawn to President Trump despite all of his vices and all of his shortcomings.
I don't think very highly of cowards.
Thank you.
And it's just the way I'm wired.
I actually feel called to the conflict of good conflict and to the tension.
And again, I'm not walking around trying to find issues where they don't exist, right, guys?
I would much rather live and kind of be a college football coach or a baseball manager, the Chicago Cubs or something, right?
But my friend Andrew Cedra and I, we were talking about this at the pastor's conference in Georgia before Mom Donnie, I even knew who he was.
And we were talking about this.
And again, I was further motivated to speak out on this when I went to Europe.
when I went to London.
And has anyone known what I'm talking about?
Have you gone to Europe?
It's so sad.
It's so dark.
And I would go to Piccadilly Square and every single shop is in Arabic and the women are in the full garb.
And then what's even worse, and this is what really drove me nuts, the unoffendability of that population where the native Christian Brits, like Charlie, you can't say this here.
You see, we Americans, we don't really play by that whole ballgame.
And I got a ticket out of Heathrow in like 36 hours.
So, yes, I'm going to say, I said all the things, but they have made a deal with a treacherous ideology.
And again, I want to be very clear.
I'm not indicting the moral character of every single Muslim.
That's not what I said here at all.
And you guys will agree.
We are talking about a worldview, a parasitic worldview that is ascending, growing, and multiplying.
And is it going to be the secular world that's going to stop it?
No.
Is it going to be the secular world?
No.
It has to be the church.
The church needs to speak out boldly.
and repeatedly on this.
Yes.
Yes, sir.
Charlie, I follow you on Marty Ellett from El Centro California follow on Instagram as well as our Christian radio station we just got you on for an hour a week that's really cool thank you I'm a freshman city councilman my wife is a freshman a high school board member we just got elected just this last year so we got a big problem in California but we have you know elections are coming just a year away so we have three really good
good conservative.
We've got Cheyenne.
We have Chad Bianco.
We've got Steve Hilton.
I feel like that we need a Christian forum before, long before the primaries, to get behind one guy.
Instead of fighting each other, spending all their money, and go with one guy.
Could you, I mean, do you agree with that?
Could you help us?
Could you make that happen?
Honestly, I know that you're concerned about California.
If anybody has never seen Charlie with with Governor Newsom you need to watch that that's very sweet that's incredible thank you and I'm only laughing because I just came from Tuesday I came from Maine and New York And they both basically had the same question.
Hey, Charlie, can you do an event and save New York?
and you saved Maine.
I'm happy to, I personally have a great friendship with Steve Hilton.
I endorsed him right when he came out of the race.
I don't want to get into a fight with anyone here.
That's not why I'm here, guys.
Literally, this is like low on my priority list, trying to stop the suffocation of the West via the East, right?
So look, I think some people in this room could definitely step up and do a forum like this, happy to help.
And then whoever the nominee is, I will help with every possible piece of resources, energy I can to get them elected as governor of California.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Yes.
I want to thank you so much for bringing to the attention you saw from the hands that we as pastors have no idea about the seriousness of the Islam problem.
But just as much as we are ignorant, we also have nowhere to no idea where to turn to find out what we need to know to be able to broadly proclaim the truth and stand up to questions without looking to be foolish.
What do you recommend that we read or a website that we can go to so that we can become better informed to stand up?
So two things.
Andrew, stand up.
Andrew, you have a sedra.
Just as a resource, you should all just, Andrew, you're going to have a busy night.
Give it up for Andrew's sedra.
Just go ask him questions.
And Andrew, here's the power of Andrew.
He's made me more courageous on the topic.
And that's how truth tellers are able to kind of self-reinforce.
Andrew nearly had his head cut off in Egypt and now in Australia on the same sort of thing.
So that's number one.
Thank you, Andrew.
The second, I would point you to a guy who I really enjoyed.
It's the Apostate Prophet on YouTube.
His name is Rivdan Ayadamir.
I butchered the pronunciation.
But he is a former Muslim from Turkey.
He studied all the texts.
He left Islam to great personal risk and reputational risk and family risk.
He converted to Christianity and accepted Jesus Christ as his Lord and Savior.
And he knows this stuff better than anybody else.
In fact...
Those were his words, not mine.
And he said we should go through every Muslim immigrant and assess if they've actually assimilated.
And let me say a word on that.
Assimilation, let me say it different, immigration without assimilation is an invasion.
Yes.
You can write that down and put it on a bumper sticker.
And so they are, do you notice how the left is very good at changing words to mean something they aren't?
Healthcare.
Abortion is healthcare.
Think of how many words we can think.
Immigration is the same.
You see, we are playing on a faulty terrain, and they're applying scripture they don't even believe in to that terrain.
So let me give you an example.
So we look at scripture, and it says, you know, welcome the foreigner, you know, all the different scripture of immigration.
All of it is predicated, though, on assimilation into the nation, all of it.
Nowhere in the Bible does it say you should allow your land to be invaded.
In fact, it says the opposite, actually, to defend your land against invasion and to fortify against it.
So they say it's immigration, and the test is very simple.
The test is, have you assimilated to the United States of America?
Do you have a loyalty to another nation?
Are you part of our project?
And if the answer is no, then you've not assimilated.
And then you are a foreigner in the land.
You see, that's the key.
In the Bible, it says, welcome the foreigner so that they can become one of you, not that they remain a foreigner while they're in your land.
And if they remain a foreigner once you've invited them in, it invites a whole different set of theological triggers.
Thank you very much.
Yes, next question.
Hey Charlie, I'm from the conservative stronghold of Seattle.
Don't ask me to save Washington.
I can't.
I'm not going to.
Don't worry.
Thank you.
What's the thing that's going to spark revival among Gen Z in these deeply lost, deeply liberal cities like Seattle?
So I think we're already seeing pockets of this, but let me tell you what it's not going to be.
It will not be a watered down gospel or a sanitized presentation of truth.
is the opposite.
And if I may humbly just talk about what happens when I go to the most liberal pockets in America, when I go to University of Washington, for example, or when I go to UC Berkeley, the liberal places.
They don't want to just go to church and hear a TED talk with good music.
They don't want to just go to church and be like, well, the parking was organized and the coffee was above average.
They want to be challenged and provoked and they want to be led towards eternal truth.
And we talk about Jesus as a Savior, but how often are we afraid to tell the people we're trying to get saved what they need to be saved for?
from and that is the word and my friend Barry we talked about this forever you your need of a savior increases the more you talk about sin and you sin can only exist because sin means off the target if you talk about the target So you talk about the target, realize you're falling short.
A younger generation knows they're already unhappy.
They're depressed.
They're anxious.
They're alcohol addicted.
They're drug addicted.
They're lost.
So they know all of that.
You put, you make sense of it being like, you know why you're all those things?
Because here's the target and you're over here and Jesus is the only way back to that.
And they're like, wow, I never thought.
And we laugh, but the other, you know what the gospel the other way is?
They say, even though you're over here, this is the, this is the modern gospel.
We're just going to let you stay there because it's a little bit too judgy.
And we're not going to talk about the ideal, we're not going to talk about the target, we're not going to talk about how homosexuality is a sin or transgenderism is bad or that gambling addiction is wrong or adultery is wrong because we don't want to offend you because under the modern world, offending somebody is the greatest sin.
Judgment is unacceptable.
God is just the guess.
And morality is completely subjective because we don't want to engage in judgment.
But the modern gospel is so bad at this.
And by the way, this is why all those of you that have a strong gospel, you're growing in all this.
Now in Seattle, make sure you have good security, obviously.
But all kidding aside, I think the move of God will go into our cities.
It's already happening.
As I say, top music, Gen Z's moving in massive numbers.
But it will not happen if your message is indistinguishable from something that they can just pull up on some sort of self help seminar.
It must be a hot gospel and a rescue mission for a lost generation.
Thank you.
We'll do a couple more.
Hey, Chuck.
Okay.
So Howl Shaw from Clark County, Nevada.
I know it well.
So I'm here to report that some amazing things have happened.
God is moving.
The ineffective leadership of the Clark County Republican Party has been completely replaced by mega American First people.
So thank God for that.
With that, I'm kind of the unofficial chaplain, and wherever I go and I do my invocations I proudly proclaim Jesus as Lord this last time I had a couple people come up to me and say hey howl you need to kind of tone it down you know there's Jews in here there's Muslims in here we're all conservatives how do you react to that no don't do that so again what is the objection that people are offended
I guess Outrageous.
So what?
Christ is king.
Thanks so much.
Move on.
And by the way, don't do it as a way to offend.
Don't do it as a way to taunt, but a simply stated truth claim must never be apologized for period ever on end of story and you can do it artfully and tastefully you could do it in a presentation where you say you know we're so blessed by christ our lord to be here today just that alone people will hear that and once you speak the truth it kind of hangs in the air you think about it and you dwell on it no matter the circum let me tell you
right now politics is peanuts compared to the truth of jesus christ amen and period never compromise on that ever thank you so much if you want to make sense of the change and the chaos happening around us, you're going to need God's help.
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So when Trump sends a survey.ys, I always put, I'm concerned about Sharia law.
So I live 15 minutes from here I live.
This is how close it is.
In a small city, Lameda, a mosque came into the residential area and they're buying up all the land, 500 apartment buildings.
They have the money.
And I'm very concerned and we're really close.
And I believe that's how had look, and not only that, they have six, seven, eight kids per family, right?
So the population increases dramatically.
And they're well financed and they're well funded.
And I'll be very honest, I think we as the church are talking about so many other issues because they don't want us to realize.
And again, we've done really well on the wokeism thing.
I think we should say, honestly, we've made a lot of progress, and I want you to be encouraged about that.
Like, I'm here to tell you guys, I see it, and I measure it, and like, good job.
You guys have been crushing it on the wokeism thing.
I mean that.
Like, keep doing that.
This is the one, as you will see.
And I'll just give you a real example.
Anyone here from Texas?
Yes?
In Plano, in Plano, yes, I mean, it's great, but I want that Texas attitude, though, which I don't know where it is, because it doesn't exist right now, because there's something called the Epic City, the East Plano Islamic Community, where they have bought up thousands of acres, and they're building an Islamo-fascist, Islamist-only community.
where the mosque will be the center of the community.
This is their idea.
This is foreign to us as Christians.
We don't think like this.
We're like, here's the church.
Here's our family.
Stable order.
They have a conquering mindset.
And we think conquering only happens with tanks and drones and F-35s, but there's another form of conquering that is much more subtle, that is much more effective, and it's through infiltration, immigration, and maternity wards.
Thank you.
What do we do about it?
You speak, first of all, we should shut off all the immigration.
Trump has been great on that.
Number two, honestly, The more we speak about it, the more all of a sudden the answers will come to us.
And again, the attitude people say, oh, you're so intolerant or you're so bigoted.
Reject all of that garbage.
That's the same stuff they tried to tell you five years ago.
It's the same playbook they used with BLM guys.
It's the same playbook they used.
That's why I want to praise you on the wokism thing, because you guys are now veterans of the Culture War.
You've gone through it.
So don't fall forward again when they start calling you all these names when it comes to Islam because you guys have the battle scars when they try to call you a white supremacist when you didn't want to go take a knee for George Floyd remember same playbook will be used of thought-terminating clichés to shut you up Thank you very much.
Yes.
We'll do a couple more.
I just wanted to mention the first mosque, I think, in Santa Barbara County was built in Goleta just a couple years ago, and we're right next to the the UCSB campus where we had the privilege to meet you a while back.
Thank you for coming.
But to me, it seems like besides the neighborhoods, communities that are being targeted for a strong Muslim presence, they're staking out the campuses in America.
And I think it might be wise of us to create a counter-strategy where if they're going to come into our territory in that sense, to be very prepared to give counter-arguments or evangelistic outreach to the Muslim presence on so many of our universities.
And so I don't know if you have any.
Well, I mean, look, the universities are very lost, as you know.
That's a whole separate issue.
I completely agree with everything you just said.
And look, everyone wants to talk about foreign influence in America all of a sudden.
Okay, I'll up your ante.
How about the Council for American Islamic Relations?
Who does not know what care is?
Anybody?
Yeah, well, I'm not going to use that because I don't want to get sued.
And by the way, they are vigilant with lawsuits.
Study care.
That's all I can say.
And Senator Tom Cotton has done some great work on that.
I don't like him all the time.
I've got some big disagreements with Tom Cotton, but credit where credit is due.
Care is a big problem in this country.
Thank you.
We'll do two more.
One, one, two.
Yes.
Hi, Charlie.
I'm from Las Vegas, Nevada.
And we, a friend and I, we go out to mosques and we just evangelize peacefully out there.
And we are to praise the Lord.
With love.
And they've unfortunately believed Jesus is just a prophet.
So we quote John 9, 35-38, where Jesus himself says to the man that he is God.
And then you ask the Muslim, when has a prophet ever lied?
And they can't come back on that.
My question is, there are things though that they are against, abortion and LGBT.
Correct.
With those things, we align with them.
But they, and also with the other denominations and other faiths.
We in Las Vegas, in Nevada, we have question six coming on the ballots in 2026, where they want to extend our abortion to term, to birth, to nine months.
We are already at six months.
And it unfortunately., a lot of Christians, they just voted to amend the Constitution without ever knowing.
Yeah.
Gotta go quick.
Yes, yes.
So what my saying is, they have Jesus completely wrong, and there are fanatical elements in the Muslim faith.
But on other things, So this is a little bit of a false, a little swan song.
Good intention from you.
There's not been a single.
example of a Western country or a Western city that becomes more socially conservative as it all of a sudden becomes more Muslim.
I know that might sound weird because they do a deal with the Liberals to suffocate the Western influence.
And you see this in London.
London still has gay pride parades because it is a peace treaty that is administered between the Islamists and the obviously the LGBT mafia.
And let me tell you why that matters.
Because as the Islamists will, of course, not like and they'll find the gay stuff objectionable, what's more important is the takedown of Christendom.
So it's a strategic alliance.
It is a prudent partnership with the social liberals to then take us completely out of the game.
So I'd be very, very careful with that point, honestly.
If they want to vote a certain way in a ballot referendum, great, terrific, fine.
Again, I want to state for the record, there was a guy running for office, Zudy Jasser, who I knew in Arizona.
He was the best candidate, Muslim.
He wants to reform Islam.
I endorsed him.
I'm not against individual Muslims, right?
But the macro ideology as itself, I don't need to keep repeating it, is what it is, right?
And that's the other part.
This is very important.
I'm glad you brought this up.
So, our degeneracy here in the West, drag queen story hour, transgender operations, men kissing on screen, it actually makes the Muslims more fanatical.
So this actually, it is a, our degeneracy is a deterrent from them assimilating.
So what happens is they come here to the West, they see all the degeneracy on TV, and they're like, oh my goodness, all my Wahhabiist friends were right.
I have to now go to more stricter Islamist views.
So our degeneracy is actually a radicalization tool for Muslims.
Does that make sense?
And in a way that is honestly very scary and very dark.
Thank you.
Yes.
Pastor and evangelist and your RC in Albuquerque, New Mexico.
I'll be there this Sunday, actually.
Yes, we'll be there for you.
So I'm going to preface my question with a statement.
Acts 6 and 7, Deacon produces likely the greatest missionary convert ever in Acts 9, Paul.
Later on, that Paul tells Timothy, do the work of an evangelist.
In Acts 11, men of Cyrene resulting from persecution go into another place cross culturally evangelized.
This is lay people.
And the greatest missionary work, missionary catalyst ever is produced out of that church, producing the evangelists of Barnabas and Saul and Paul, and we know what happened from there.
Here's my question.
Would you agree that the greatest catalyst for revival in America would be lay people evangelism?
So you mean not pastors, just one-on-one.
Well, obviously I want pastors to speak out and teach, but I would, I mean, Barry completely agrees with that.
That's Barry's life work.
You should meet Barry.
Yes, I think that's a great point.
Okay.
We got to wrap.
So we'll go one-to-one.
I'm sorry.
This is the second to last question.
Yeah, my name is Michael.
I got saved over there.
And what you're talking about, Islam, is absolutely, absolutely 100% true.
I was beaten because of my faith in Jesus Christ.
And in 1997, Muslim burned on our 1,500 Christian homes.
13 church buildings were destroyed.
And we came here.
I love this country very much.
This is the only country where we can have a freedom of speech, a freedom of religion.
And we must, on every cost, have to protect this nation, our Christian values.
And I am very well versed in Islam because right from the grade one all the way to university level, we were forced to read the Quran in Arabic.
And I know how difficult way I learned that, but I love Jesus Christ.
He is my Savior and I love this country and thank you very much.
What you're doing.
You are an example of someone who assimilated to the United States of America.
So God bless you for that, sir.
Thank you.
And not only that, I have two daughters because we love this country and I really told my older daughter that she should join the military.
Praise God.
She is now a medical doctor and captain in the U.S. Air Force.
Phenomenal.
Thank you.
Thank you, sir.
And I want to.
single out you and Andrew.
If anyone has questions, please fellowship.
The most powerful thing is former Muslims, former people from the Middle East.
They know that they know the text.
And you would agree, everything I said was correct, right, sir?
Absolutely.
Yes.
So again, this is not me going out on a limb.
This is deep study, verified, and it's just a matter of us speaking it.
Final question, yes, ma'am.
Thank you, Charlie.
I'm actually British.
I grew up over there, and it's killing me to see how Britain and Europe are just done.
And I really don't want to see this country being done.
So I just want to let everyone here know my husband has been reaching Muslims here and around the world for many years.
They, the diligent Muslim families send their children for training every single night.
So from very young ages all the way up, they are getting trained every night of the week.
Now you're on college campus.
What can we as pastors do in our churches to prepare our kids in the way that they prepare theirs?
Well, again, I think what we're trying to do at Turning Point USA, but look, part of it is of course having them understand Scripture, we know that.
But they have to have a robust appreciation and understanding of what is western civilization?
What is this thing?
Why is it different?
Where did it come from?
What is Christendom?
Why do we defend it?
Because this is the Islamists know it and they want it.
They don't just want it destroyed, they want it as theirs.
They want to take possession of it.
And the term, I encourage all of you to make a linguistic change.
Use Islamist or Muhammadan.
more than you use Muslim.
Muslim has a connotation that's kind of on, so that's fine.
Muhammadan or Islamist, right?
So look, we also need to equip our young people to know that there is going to be a civilizational basically head on collision soon.
And again, let me just close how I said, we have two simultaneous working in concert ideologies, Marxism and Islamism.
And here we are as Christendom and Western civilization, right?
And the good news is we win in the end.
Jesus Christ wins.
The call for us in this moment though is to not roll over and act like it's inevitable that we're just going to collapse.
In fact, I believe we should do the exact opposite.
So thank you.
Let me just close by saying everybody, my call to action is keep on speaking out.
If you want resources, we can give them.
If you want to bring former Muslims who are Christians to your church, that's a great way to start this conversation in your church.
And if anybody gives you pushback in your church, I would make an argument.
The Islamist is actually easier than the woke to address in your church.
Because you are a Christian church first and foremost.
And so it's a complete theological difference and worldview.
Guys, I'm just thrilled at how much better of a place we are as a nation than we were a year ago.
I want to thank you guys for praying for me, praying for Turning Point USA.
We're going to keep on fighting for this amazing civilization and glory be to God.
