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I want to welcome a great man, Senator Rick Scott, to the program from the great state of Florida.
Senator, great to see you.
Senator, I want to get your response to Zoran Mom Dani.
I'm going to play Cut 270.
He is vowing to be Donald Trump's worst nightmare as President Trump weighs in working with rival in New York City Mayor's Race.
Let's play Cut 270 first.
My administration would be Donald Trump's worst nightmare.
And you don't need to take me at my word or take Andrew Cuomo at at his, you need only look at the actions of the Trump administration since I won the Democratic primary.
How else can you describe a president who has proposed denaturalizing the Democratic nominee of New York City?
How else can you describe a president who has sought to entertain suggestions of deporting me, of arresting me, of taking control of the city over the will of New Yorkers?
Those are the actions of a president who is afraid of the fact that I will actually deliver in a manner where he is simply betrayed.
Joining us is Senator Rick Scott.
Senator, your response to mister Mamdani.
Mandani's obsession with Donald Trump?
Well, what President Trump is doing is he's deciding he cares about this country.
So look at Mandani.
I mean, here's a kid that has funny money and he's running like he cares about people.
I heard the, did you hear the rumor that the first action he's going to take if he wins is to change the name of New York to New Havana?
Because that's exactly what's going to happen.
He says he wants to run grocery stores.
He should go look at the grocery stores in Havana.
They're empty of groceries.
They're empty of grocery.
He probably wants to bring in the healthcare system from Havana.
It means you don't get healthcare.
No, except if you're the elite, if you're part of the el cash regime, it's just like all these places have socialism.
The elite get it.
They get everything.
And by the way, how do they keep their power?
They put people in prison.
Go ahead and ask Jose Danielle Ferrar.
And about 1,400 peaceful protesters.
Three years ago, they peacefully protested and they were all in prison, maybe for the rest of your life, as young as 14 years old.
So if Manbarami wins.
It's new Havana, no groceries, no health care.
You say the wrong thing, they're going to go after you.
And so the sinister nature of.
this is so many New Yorkers seem to want to support this.
And in some ways, Florida is to blame because the patriotic New Yorkers are moving to Florida.
Therefore, you're left with a remnant of communist, Marxist, Islamist, Muhammadan voters in the city of New York.
We must fight for our blue cities.
It's very tempting to say, oh, forget our blue cities.
This kind of ties in with the federalization of Washington, D.C., which I want to get your comment on in a second.
But can you just reiterate why we should not surrender and retreat away from our biggest blue cities?
We have to.
We have to go into every neighborhood and talk to every citizen and every voter and explain why we are better for them.
We are better for you.
I grew up in public housing.
I know what it's like to live in public housing.
It's better under capitalism than it is under socialism.
Give me the chance.
The dream of this country, the idea of America is that you can start from anywhere and live the dream.
You don't share the wealth by people taking away wealth.
You share the wealth by giving people opportunity.
But we have to go in and talk to people.
I went to Harvard about two or three months ago and talked to the students.
They agree when you sit down with them and say, say, do you believe that you do want people to get free everything?
No, you're going to have to pay for it.
How's that good for this country?
So I think we can go win, we've been able to do it in Florida.
Think what happened in Florida in 2010 when I won the governor's race, there were 569,000 more D's than R's, and now there's 1.3 million more R's than D's.
What happened is we elected people that ran and said, we're going to take care of you, your job, your children's education, public safety.
So if we, if Republicans go talk about those things and actually do those things, we will win blue cities.
We've been able to do it around Florida.
We'll be able to do it all across the country.
And it's benefited for the citizens.
And if nothing else, you're not a nation.
if you just surrender your biggest cities.
You're nothing more than just dominating the outskirts.
And by the way, but hold on, you care about citizens.
No, we care about exactly, but can you also talk about the success of Miami?
Fifteen years ago, Miami was kind of written off as a permanently blue city.
It was wildly corrupt.
Look, Miami has a lot of problems, but it's in a far better place, a far safer direction, a far more prosperous direction, a far more livable direction because you in Florida, Senator, you guys went all in and you guys reached out to the Venezuelan community, the Cuban community, but also you had a pro-freedom agenda.
Twenty years ago, Miami Dade was the blue stronghold of the American Southeast.
And now it is a Republican county.
What can we learn from the Miami takeover or switch, I should say, and apply it to other blue cities?
Go up.
In 2010, when I ran, okay, Republicans have basically given up on Miami.
And I didn't.
I spent week after week after week talking to everybody in Miami about what I want to accomplish, how I want to get them a job, improve their kids' education, make sure they were safe.
And we went from losing Miami big to in the 2024 cycle, we are able to win by ten points and we have our new sheriff is Republican, the supervisor election Republican.
I mean, all of our constitutional officers at the county level are all Republicans now because we went all in for what we believe in.
So this is all doable all across the country.
Have the right message, the right candidates and show up and talk to people.
They agree with us.
All across this country, people agree with us.
They don't want socialism.
They don't.
They take Miami.
People left these places to get away from socialism.
They want an opportunity.
Give me my chance.
Give me my chance.
to live the dream.
That's what they want.
And it's again the transformation of Miami Dade County.
I remember as it was happening, James Carville was freaking out as he should because it changed the entire dynamics of the state of Florida.
And so we now look at New York, we look at DC.
I do want to get your comments on the Senator, President Donald Trump has now invoked the Home Rule designation.
He is federalizing Washington, DC.
And quote, we will bring the military if needed.
What is, I mean, you spend a lot of time in Washington, DC.
Is DC safe, number one?
And then number two, do you support this move by President Trump?
Well, first of all, DC is not safe.
People don't just walk the streets in DC and feel safe anywhere around DC.
I mean, I have to be careful in what I do, but I have people in my office that are very careful about where they go.
So this is great what Donald Trump is doing.
I'm on a bill with Mike Lee that we would that Congress would take this back.
So the president is doing what Congress should be doing.
We should be taking this back.
So I'm very thankful.
Guess what?
This is going to be a place where I can tell my grandkids, hey, you want to come here and enjoy the city now.
Before I would have to say, oh, you can come here, but you have to be very careful, careful.
You can't be out after dark.
You can't go, you've got to be careful going to a restaurant or anything after dark.
So this, he's going to change dramatically, DC.
It's going to be great.
It is a symbol of national decline and a mockery that our nation's capital is more dangerous than Bogota, Mexico City, Islamabad.
Washington, DC is more dangerous than Mexico City, Bogota, Islamabad, Lima.
I mean, it is a disaster.
And I think we should give Washington, D.C. to Maryland for a very important reason.
It takes off the 51st state conversation except for the national monuments.
I want to dive more into this, but for no other reason.
than if you do not have control over your nation's capital, you are not a nation.
And you have almost every day, you have young innocent people that are mugged, car jackings, crime.
It is an outrageous testament to the failure of our ruling class as they are willing to spend hundreds of billions of dollars abroad on foreign wars while our own nation's capital is unlivable.
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Senator, I do want to get your thoughts.
We had Senator Mark Wayne Mullen on last week.
I know that there are going to be some changes potentially to Senate rules because Chuck Schumer completely messed this up.
We still have over 150 of President Trump's nominees that are in paralysis, that are frozen.
Senator, what is going to be the plan come September to unfreeze and to move President Trump's necessary nominees, because here's the way that I view it and the audience views it.
It is a disgrace and a subversion to the Democratic process when you win an election, but you can't staff your government for almost an entire year.
That is theft of an administration.
Republicans didn't do it to Democrats.
Democrats are doing it to us.
But what are we doing to fight fire with fire and play smash mouth politics?
Senator Rick Scott.
Well, number one, we've got to understand that this is all Democrats' fault.
They've decided to make sure Trump does not get his team in place.
This has never happened before.
They're only happening.
It's only being done to Donald Trump.
And so we have two choices.
One, we can stay there every day and we should stay there as many days as it takes to get this done.
Number two is we gotta change the rules.
Some of these nominees probably don't need to have Senate confirmation.
That's number one.
Number two is we're gonna have to shorten the time.
What they're doing is not really using it to vet these, you know, the nominees.
They're using it just to slow things down.
So we gotta say, okay, so what we're gonna do is we're gonna, we'll stub the vote, but we're gonna do these votes every ten minutes.
We're just gonna, we're gonna roll through these every ten minutes.
So we'll get them all done because it's just being used as an obstruction not to actually do their job to vet the candidates.
That's what the Democrats are doing.
So I'm very hopeful we'll get this fixed.
Trump's got to get his team in place.
Yeah, we need to get our nominees.
Period.
End of story.
We need to get our people in place.
It is an outrage that we have not been able to do it.
Senator, one final question here as we proceed.
What are the other big fights, spending fights?
resolution packages, things that we need to know of on the Senate calendar for the remainder of this calendar year?
Because unfortunately, as you know, the Senate is full of a bunch of gutless wonders that as soon as an election year kicks in, very little.
will happen.
So we have a little bit of time left on the clock.
What are the big things that we need to know about the U.S. Senate and fights looming into the fall?
Well, the big fights are going to be these.
Number one is that we're going to have a budget done by the end of September.
It sure doesn't look like it when we haven't passed our budget bills.
So government will be shut down if we don't then do a continuing resolution.
Historically, under Mitch McConnell, what the Republicans and Democrats together would do is they would say, oh, we'll talk about it for the next couple months.
We'll do it right before Christmas.
And then you use the Christ, right before Christmas, they come up with a bill that four people had decided, right?
Two Republicans, two Democrats, and be a blowout spending bill.
So the commitment is we're not going to do that this time, but that's historically what they're doing.
So one, is the government going to get shut down September 30th?
100% Democrats' fault if it happens because they won't allow us to pass appropriation bills.
That's the first thing that'll happen.
Number two, if we do, when are we actually going to pass the budget?
So my goal is, one, my first goal would be, let's get the budget done and let's balance the budget.
Okay, if that's not going to happen, then let's do, let's don't be doing this every two weeks.
Let's just give us a continued resolution for the next year because we know the Democrats are never going to work with us.
Let's don't have some big blowout spending bill at Christmas.
Senator, look, I'll just say on the spending component of this, we need to cut spending.
This is going to be the big fight.
And the grassroots has been very patient.
And I know the president agrees with this and the president's on board.
We had to do the one big, big, beautiful bill thing.
We had to do debt ceiling.
We have heard on this program, it's a running joke.
Five years of excuses as to why we can't have a throwdown spending fight.
We need to have an all-out spending.
spending fight because the budget fight can apply to every single dollar on the U.S. budget where the big, beautiful bill, that was a reconciliationation.
Is that correct, Senator?
The budget process is where we can get down to every line item, Senator.
Yeah.
The reconciliation bill was only mandatory spending.
The budget bill is the discretionary spending.
We've got to do both.
So it looks like we might have another opportunity of the reconciliation, but we could take the things back under the budget process and say, we're going to look at these things every year, just like you do.
You don't say, oh, I'm for sure always going to spend that money.
You look at every line item.
So the budget process should give us the opportunity to look at every line in the budget.
That's what Ron Johnson and others and I are trying to do, let's go through every line and figure out the waste and get rid of it.
Balance the budget.
We have to balance the budget today.
And to President Trump's credit, we're bringing in new revenue through tariffs.
And we are.
That's legit.
We have to cut spending.
We have to get everyone in a room.
We have to smoke it out here in the way that we have to just, we have to smoke out the truth in the room.
I am personally very, very annoyed that we keep on hearing excuses about this massive deficits.
Senator, you're on the right side of history here.
We need to harshly go after the budget this fall.
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Joining us now is Editor-in-Chief of Breitbart News to go over a variety of topics, but the breaking news today is the federalization of Washington, D.C. This really seemed to have been triggered by the young man working for Doge being mugged, but President Trump has been alluding to this for a couple months.
He's been talking about how D.C. has become a slum, how D.C. is a third world city.
Alex Marlow, your take on President Donald Trump federalizing our nation's capital.
I love it.
I lived there for a while, Charlie, and we have a mechanism to help save the city, which has been overrun by Democrats and thus crime, vandalism.
It is an embarrassment, it's a national disgrace.
The city has a lot of potential.
It is where people convene like it or not, just by nature, the fact that it's our nation's capital.
It is the city that is broadcast to the world as the most representative of the United States, like it or not.
A lot of days not, but that's just the reality.
And it's one of those places where if we do this right, we could have a safe, beautiful capital that the world admires.
And Donald Trump has a keen eye for this stuff.
He has a mechanism to change it.
So why wouldn't he?
This is the outside of the box thinking that I love about Donald Trump because why would he tolerate something that's second tier in America?
He's a cheerleader for this country.
And if you look at the way DC has gone in recent years, it's gotten more crime addled, more dirty, and somehow more expensiveive at the same time.
It's totally unpleasant to go there.
I used to live there and I used to love living there.
It's been the center of the world for so long.
Really since Barack Obama has kind of been the center of the world.
Let's go clean it up and let's get some points doing it.
Well, and look, exactly.
So they're already calling you a fascist, blah, blah, blah, whatever.
care.
This is about By the way, if you go to Singapore, you go to Tokyo, you go to Seoul, South Korea, you go to any of the great Asian capitals, they wouldn't put up with what we have here at all, period, whatsoever.
And why have we put up with such crime, endangerment, slum activity?
And it's a combination of not just the homelessness and the drug use and the maniacs, because I was just in DC recently and it was just a bunch.
It was terrible, but also it is a very violent city.
Very why have we put up with it for so long?
Okay, so it's a one-party town.
So the Democrats run the city.
So if they choose to start actually prosecuting crimes, they start trying to hold people to account and to not release all the criminals onto the streets, then what that's going to lead to is a short-term uptick in crime statistics, which is bad.
That's an admission of failure.
So they're never going to do that.
So politically, they have to allow for all the crime to continue because to address it would necessitate admitting that it was bad to begin with.
They're never going to do that because the left is so political.
They would rather see crime than have a short term, you know, hit in the polls over this issue.
The other thing is the left, they love chaos.
They're agents of chaos.
They don't want to see a law and order society.
They don't want to see our nation preserved and conserved in terms of the values you and I champion on a daily basis, Charlie.
So they're not going to be the ones to take the initiative.
The only chance you've got is conservatives or Republicans doing it from the perch of the presidency, to be honest with you and any prior Republican president that we've had in my lifetime.
would never have been able to fight through any of the name calling and the outrage and the hand wringing that we're about to witness, but it doesn't matter.
Trump's got to solder through and he's got to get this done.
Talk about the politics of it.
How will this be received politically?
Where the, you know, the media will call him a fascist home rule and all that.
And also no one's talking about the tourism angle.
Hundreds of thousands of young kids visit Washington, DC every year on school trips, high school trips, middle school trips.
We want them to see something they're proud of and it does something to the psyche.
I could say this as someone who's been to DC, you see Alex multiple, I mean, numerous hundreds of times when you get off out of.
Reagan and you drive through or Dulles where you fly in and you just see slums and you see tents and you it just it brings down your soul.
It really does.
I lived in the Yeah, I lived in the Foggy Bottom area for about four years or so.
And my typical day, I would involve me rolling out of my apartment, running down to the Lincoln Memorial, running along the Potomac River, running through iconic Georgetown with the cobblestone streets on Prospect Avenue, which was, you know, from the scenes from The Exorcist.
I always love used to doing that in the fall.
It was such a blast, Charlie.
By the time I left, it was Black Lives Matter time.
All the stores were boarded up.
Everyone was bummed out because of the stupid coronavirus masks.
There are riots all the time.
There are people marching down the street, making all sorts of noise without reason.
There's no reason it has to be that way.
It wasn't that long ago that DC was at least tolerable and we can make it beautiful again.
We can make DC great again.
I mean, it's a cliché for a reason.
We can absolutely do that.
Trump's got the power to do it.
And I'll tell you, if he succeeds, he'll get a lot of credit because even people on the left, I think, will admit to some degree that this could be done and the people in charge now will not address it.
We have long said here on this program the future of MAGA and the future of this movement will go through the reclamation of our major cities.
That doesn't mean we have to make New York MAGA or LA MAGA, but you must be able to have dominion and control and authority over America's greatest cities.
If we want to just be an outskirt movement, look, if we want to just control the Midland, Texas, the Oklahoma cities, there's nothing wrong with that, but it's incomplete.
It is incomplete because then basically you are the master of the hinterlands, which again is not an insult, beautiful parts of the country, but we need to go into the fire.
Is it time then, Alex, if we have a successful model in Washington, D.C., to replicate this in other cities?
It's a little bit harder, obviously, because you have home rule designation in D.C., but is it time for us to start to roll in the tanks to Chicago?
Is it time for us to sign the insurrection act in Los Angeles?
What are we putting up with and why talk about how this might be the entry point to a broad reclamation project of the third worldification to liberate New York, Chicago, Atlanta, Philadelphia, LA.
So yeah, oh yeah, I'll talk philosophically and then I know some lawyers are going to have to back me up on the legal side because I don't know how much of this could actually get done.
But from my perspective, it doesn't make sense that we have the just the strongest, most advanced, most technologically savvy fighting forces in the world and yet we allow for our cities to be war zones.
It doesn't make sense to me.
And I'm not saying that we want to have, you know, a massive military presence in our city because that'll defeat the purpose of what I'm talking about anyway, which is that I would like for our cities to be a place where culture is thriving, not where people are fearing for their lives when they walk down the block to get a sandwich.
But the point is, is that if we have resources that are able to clean up some of these problems, maybe it's the fentanyl issue because it's connected to the illegal immigration.
Maybe it's what they're doing with ice in Los Angeles.
Maybe that's the place to start.
But I would look for opportunities around the edges first and then maybe broader from there to try to set the standard that in this country, we have great thriving cities.
I'll tell you, I live a suburban life where I walk to school with my children and I don't live near a major metropolitan center, but I'll tell you on weekends, Charlie, when you want to eat and shop, you go down to the city and you're fearful there.
They got better restaurants, but you're worried about whether or not something is going to happen to you when you're in your car, if it's going to break into your car.
That shouldn't be the case in this country, we should have a higher standard than that.
And for Republicans, we can't just opt out.
We have to be part of the solution.
And part of that is the concern of the major cities.
Can you speak to those, some people would say, Alex, in our audience, forget it.
Let New York be New York, let LA be LA, not our problem.
Why is it our problem?
Why is if we articulate if we are articulating the domestic MAGA doctrine, this nationalist populist project that you and I have been under, you know, working on ten years, why do the cities matter?
And why should, how do you respond to a skeptic?
They're blue, they're democrats, let it burn.
How do you respond?
Yes, so first of all, I think the premise of the city, even though I don't like some of the walkable cities, some of the green stuff and some of the hideous architecture in a lot of our modern cities.
So there's a lot of negative stuff I can say.
But overall, when a lot of us think nostalgically at our favorite era of America, we weren't just, it wasn't just because we had a great government, it was because we had great culture and a lot of that culture.
takes place in the cities and that's exported around the world.
And I think that's generally a good thing in a vacuum.
And so to abandon the cities is to abandon the opportunity for us to be the cultural leaders on the earth.
So I think that that's that's a major premise.
But another thing is more of a practical human populist level, which is that a lot of jobs you need to be either in a city or be in proximity to a city.
Not every job, but a lot of them do.
And so to act as though we don't care is to abandon parts of our coalition, abandon a lot of MAGA voters.
If you look out in California, you know, we got a lot of horrible cities, but we have the highest volume of MAGA voters of any state.
It's not enough to win elections yet, maybe one day, But there's so many of us here who have the same values as you who are living a peaceful suburban or rural life.
So I don't think you should abandon your fellow man because a thriving American city provides economic opportunity, provides cultural opportunity.
And I just like the idea that we want to be excellent.
We want to raise the bar.
That should be the standard for America.
We should try to be excellent in every possible way.
Yeah.
And that's part of the entire federalization of Washington, DC, because if it's also the nation's capital and it's got it's gotten so much worse throughout the years.
And then the good people like you leave the good people.
like Benny Johnson leave and what are you left with?
You're left with criminals and wokies.
And criminals and wokies, they don't make a good city.
They do not.
It is a symbol of national decline.
We need to go back to the 1990s, where we had tough on crime type policy.
The Democrats like Karen Bass and Brandon Johnson, they're going to respond just by weaponized name calling.
obvious subversion of this.
But I hope it is a contrast for anybody listening.
It should be unacceptable if you cannot walk your great cities at night.
Unacceptable.
You can walk the streets of Tokyo at night.
You can walk the streets of Seoul, South Korea.
You can walk the streets of Singapore.
You can walk the streets of Kuala Lumpur.
But why can you not walk the streets of Washington, D.C.?
Because our leaders chose it.
Yeah, I love your point that it's a symbol of national decline.
Are we a society with high standards and who believe in excellence or are we not?
And it is obviously a symbol that things are going the wrong direction.
One of my favorite refrains is, how's it going?
or how we doing when we experiment with things are we feeling better about things after we've done them for a few years and if the answer is no then why not run in the other direction it's you have to be a highly motivated person to try to solve these problems.
They're hard problems and a lot of the people there don't want them solved, unfortunately, but that's no reason to stop.
We got to keep trying.
We got to make our cities excellent again.
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Alex Marlow, editor-in-chief of Breitbart.com.
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Let's play this.
This is George Will on Bill Maher talking about blue cities and how he hopes that Mom Dani wins in New York.
You see, this is an old, archaic, relic way of thinking about politics.
Oh, once we hit rock bottom, people will realize it.
There's some truth to that on the national scale, like Biden gave us Trump.
There's actually the opposite data to show that in cities.
They just get bluer and more dysfunctional because the decent people leave.
Play cut 313.
And on the other side, you have the guy running in New York, Mandami, right?
Okay, who's like a straight up communist.
I mean, he is.
He talks about, you know, the things that communists say I want him to win.
You want him to win?
I think every 20 years or so...
We did.
This is a failed way of thinking.
If that's the case, people would have learned their lesson in Chicago.
Nope.
The suburbs of Chicago became bluer.
They would have learned their lessons in Philadelphia.
They would have learned their lessons in LA.
They would have learned their lessons in San Francisco or Portland or Seattle or LA.
None of that is true.
Some people like George Will, he just loves losing.
It's a cope.
It's always tempting, but then you get good people who flee.
Alex Marlow.
My first take is, what's George Will doing?
Why is he out there?
It's the I had enough of George Will when I came into this business 17 years ago.
It's just a Margot's all these great guests.
why George Will?
I guess, I don't know, maybe got what he wanted for because everyone's playing this clip.
I will say one thing about George Will though before we go.
Yeah.
He hasn't aged today.
I gotta tell you, like, it's actually pretty remarkable.
Keep it up.
He looks like he's late 70s now.
He looked like he was in his late 70s 40 years ago also.
So he does have that strange look.
No, I, I, it's, it's the, he doesn't know what he's talking about.
And I don't know why.
I don't think.
I don't think anyone's listening to him, but it's an interesting thought exercise with Mahamdani in particular because the nature of the rest of the field is that it feels like Andrew Cuomo is just such a uniquely horrible candidate.
And this is what disturbs me about this whole race is that Curtis Lewis seems like a nice guy, he runs every time, doesn't win.
And then Eric Adams seemed like he actually was amenable to coming around to a lot of what Trump is doing.
And he's polling at literally nothing.
He's getting almost nothing in the polls, which is very disturbing to me.
So Charlie, do you have this mapped out in your head?
Because this is one that gets confusing to me by the day.
We all know Mahamdani is a he's a char fake.
He's not who he says he is.
He's a avowed communist.
I mean, these are seized the means of production.
This is true communism.
He's got those strange toilet bowl white teeth, which you never get that in a communist society.
You can only get that in a capitalist society.
So he's a very strange person overall.
But Cuomo, you see what he's going to do?
He wants to now kick the rich people out of the rent controlled houses.
But the problem is everyone's broken in New York anyway because it's too expensive.
That's not a good idea.
He's got all these terrible ideas.
So who's going to run the place?
Well, a bunch of bureaucrats will end up running the city.
And look, the point is this.
There was a guy named Coleman Hughes.
Is that right, Blake?
Yeah.
Coleman Hughes from Detroit, his stated political idea, his mission was to drive the good people out of Detroit so that he hung on to power.
This is what George Will doesn't understand, is that there are some people that will govern.
They will govern in a way.
Coleman Young, not Coleman Hughes.
Thank you, Blake.
Coleman Young.
I was close.
Coleman Hughes is a writer.
Coleman, that's why I got it confused.
Coleman Young was the mayor of Detroit and his stated goal, well, not stated, But his whole idea that would get revealed later was that kick every basically make it so unpleasant but i hold on to power i will rule over the ashes i will be the mayor over a destroyed city i will be a mayor over Dresden after the bombing.
It will be a terrible place to live, but I'm in charge.
