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Mass Amnesty v. Mass Deportations
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Hey everybody, Charlie Kirk here live from the Bitcoin.com studio.
No amnesty.
There is a push afoot in Washington, D.C. for mass amnesty, and we are drawing a red line and we are saying no amnesty in this country.
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What a weekend.
President Donald Trump signed the big beautiful bill on Independence Day on July 4th, signaling a massive legislative accomplishment.
Tax cut, no tax on tips, no tax on overtime, no tax on Social Security, huge investment in border security.
$175 billion for ICE.
We're going to talk more about the profundity and the importance of this bill, but it is of great urgent necessity that we cover what is coming next.
And yes, we are going to talk about Epstein.
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But you would think that, hey, we get $175 billion for ICE.
We're going to get mass deportations.
We're going to be able to have now the largest deportation effort ever.
Yes, in theory.
But in practice, there's something else afoot.
Literally, the day before President Donald Trump was signing the Big Beautiful Bill, I got a couple phone calls from people that you would call members of the ruling class.
A lot of money and a lot of connections.
They said, Charlie, isn't this amazing?
We passed the Big Beautiful Bill.
I said, oh, yes, sir.
And they said, now we need mass amnesty.
What?
I said, we haven't even signed the bill yet.
They said, yeah, you know, these deportations, we're going to lose the midterms because of the deportations.
The people on the right, they'll understand.
And we need to come to the middle and we need to legalize the 25 million people here in this country.
I was speechless.
Because here I am actually thinking, a little naive, we're going to sign this big, beautiful bill.
And we're actually going to get mass deportations on and erupted from an asymmetrical attack.
So we have somewhere between 20 to 50 million illegal aliens in this country.
We don't actually know the numbers.
These are all guesstimates.
These are all just approximations.
And there is a movement afoot as I am doing this broadcast.
And this is bigger than anything with Epstein.
This is bigger than anything with tax cuts.
It is happening right now in Washington, D.C. And I can say this from firsthand experience, that people are pushing President Trump for amnesty.
They are pushing him for mass legalization of illegals.
Now, President Donald Trump, of course, would never push for amnesty, but President Donald Trump said something at a rally on July 3rd, and my phone lit up like you wouldn't imagine.
President Donald Trump was talking about potentially doing a bipartisan compromise deal for illegals that have stolen social security numbers, that are illegally domiciling themselves here in the country, that are all felons.
Every single one of them are felons.
They're just not yet indicted felons, but if they're here illegally, you're a felon.
It's against federal law.
We've gone through all the different federal laws that you break by being here.
And this is President Donald Trump speaking at the Iowa rally saying that we might need to do some form.
He didn't use the word amnesty, but some form of soft amnesty.
And I could tell you now through other reporting that I've been able to do and phone calls, there is a major push right now to do a bipartisan amnesty deal, a major push.
People are trying to push the president.
Hey, you got the money for ICE.
Now we need to go move to the middle on immigration.
Play cut 258.
People have worked for a farm on a farm for 14, 15 years, and they get thrown out pretty viciously.
And we can't do it.
We've got to work with the farmers and people that have hotels and leisure properties too.
We're going to work with them and we're going to work very strong and smart.
And we're going to put you in charge.
We're going to make you responsible.
And I think that that's going to make a lot of people happy.
Now, serious radical right people who I also happen to like a lot, they may not be quite as happy, but they'll understand, won't they?
Do you think They'll understand that you're the one that brought this whole situation up.
Brooke Rollins brought it up, and she said, So we have a little problem.
The farmers are losing a lot of people, and we figured it out, and we have some great stuff being written.
Let the farmers be responsible.
Let the farmers be responsible.
Look, I trust President Trump's instincts 100% here, but there is a group of people that are pushing President Trump very hard to stop the deportation effort and to try to have some sort of a come to the table moment of a bipartisan compromise.
That we need to try to figure out how to make these people have a pathway to citizenship.
Now, this is not by any means a knock on President Trump.
It is a knock on people that are trying to pressure President Trump and pressure him hard.
We don't know any of the details, but President Trump did say that the radical right people that he has a soft spot for wouldn't like this.
Hello.
Hi.
I'm one of those radical right people.
And I want to know what I'm not going to like.
Because of all the different stuff that's in front of us, if you want to break our coalition, go and push amnesty.
That right there would be a complete collapse of everything that we have worked for, everything.
So we don't know any details, but it looks as if President Trump might be in preliminary discussions.
And I could tell you that there are many different discussions that I've had with people, and they are pushing it hard to create some kind of amnesty proposal aimed specifically at farm laborers in the United States.
But it's more than that.
It could be hotels.
It could be leisure properties.
We've heard the arguments about this for years.
Well, the crops are going to rot in the fields.
There'll be starvation.
But here's the main thing that you need to know.
We've tried this before.
This is not some sort of new thing.
And by the way, just so we are clear, I went to an event this last weekend in San Diego.
J.D. Vance was there.
And another person came up and said, Charlie, do you know what we need?
We need to have some sort of pathway citizenship for 25 people.
I said, are you guys on all some sort of group chat or something?
Are you guys all just coordinating?
We have not even 48 hours of the largest investment in border security, deportation, and ICE.
And why are you pitching me on mass amnesty?
Like, what is that all about?
There's a lot of reasons for this.
And one of which is the corporate class is deathly afraid that they might actually have to hire Americans and pay a higher wage.
Somehow other countries are able to grow food without imported serf labor.
How are they able to do that?
I don't know.
Apparently, we have built so many parts of our economy to be reliant on foreign criminal invaders that have come into this country.
And some people, oh, we have to allow farmers to transition.
No, you deport them back to their country of origin.
All of them.
We did not run on mass amnesty.
We ran on mass deportations.
We did not run on, well, you know, you can transition.
Because you know who told us to transition?
We tried the transition argument.
And we are told, hey, if we do this, Hispanics will vote Republican for a generation.
Hispanics will vote right-wing for a generation.
And Ronald Reagan tried this in 1986.
And what is so, what is so frustrating, it's just unspeakably frustrating.
We are winning Hispanics in a way we've never won them before because we are so firm on immigration.
It was running against amnesty that got us Hispanic support.
And I don't want to hear about people say, well, this is how we beat the Democrats.
We just beat the Democrats.
We know how to beat them.
Don't tell me the Karl Roves of the world.
Well, now here's how I beat the Democrats.
Everything you have suggested the last 20 years has been wrong on trade, on immigration, on the deep state, on the administrative state.
Everything you have suggested on the Iraq war, on foreign policy, it's all been wrong of the Karl Roves of the world.
But now, in the year of our Lord 2025, I have to now be lectured that we are going to win back Hispanics, even though we're already winning back Hispanics by compromising the core base as the core campaign promise of our coalition.
I have full faith in President Trump that this will be largely rejected, but the push is on.
And President Trump does this a lot.
It's kind of a rhetorical practice.
He'll throw it out at a rally.
Do you like it?
Do you not like it?
We're going to talk about it, like a trial balloon.
He crowdsources his polling.
But I could tell you, I know some of the people that are pushing some of this stuff.
And we're going to talk more about it because it's been tried before.
And this is a red line.
Amnesty is a red line.
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And I just want to say our reporting has always bared out.
I remember back in February, we sent out a tweet that there is a push for airstrikes against Iran.
Now, I think President Trump handled the Iranian situation beautifully.
But when we get heads up here on this show, we're not a false alarm show.
I'm telling you that there is an aggressive movement afoot for a big amnesty compromise deal.
So here's what we're told.
We're told that we need the workers.
There's a lot wrong with that argument, but even if I would sympathize that, then they don't have to be illegal farm workers.
They could potentially be seasonal workers that could come legally.
We have a whole visa program for that, but even that, I'm very skeptical of.
But fine, there's a whole carve-out in the immigration code for that.
Number two is: well, it's just hard to get rid of them.
I'm sorry.
We do hard things in this country.
We go to the moon.
We build dams that are the spectacle of the world.
We win world wars.
We're the wealthiest country, the most generous country, the most productive country.
We do tough stuff.
What did I sign off with last week?
I said one of the hardest, most challenging things in front of our country, which will be the most enormous public policy project in front of us, will be the mass deportation of 15 to 20 million people.
No one said it's easy, but we do hard stuff in this country, and it's about the reclamation of a republic.
And then number three, where I just, this is the one that I get the most animated about.
Well, Charlie, amnesty means that we are going to win Hispanics for the future.
This will destroy the Democrat Party.
This will ruin them forever.
Well, I want to give you a little bit of a history lesson.
Front page of the New York Times from 1986, November 7th, 1986, Robert Peer, special of the New York Times, writes, President Reagan signs landmark bill on immigration.
It's called the Simpson-Mazzoli Act.
And I'm going to post this entire article on charliekirk.com if we're legally allowed to.
This is one of the most chilling articles that you can read.
Not only is it so applicable today, but all the people are the same people.
It's unbelievable.
Chuck Schumer was the one that pushed for mass amnesty back in 1986.
They're still all there.
Let me read this to you.
President Reagan today signed a landmark immigration bill that prohibits employers from hiring illegal aliens.
Ooh, that sounds good.
And offering legal status to many illegal aliens already in the United States.
So everyone thought this was great.
In fact, they thought Reagan said this, by the way, I think Reagan was a good president in a lot of ways.
Reagan was also super overrated in a lot of ways.
We got to stop the over-veneration of Ronald Reagan and just be honest, that Ronald Reagan gave us mass amnesty, which is one of the greatest immigration mistakes next to Ted Kennedy's nation of immigrants nonsense.
Just got to be honest.
You got to call the shots as it is.
We don't venerate people in history unnecessarily.
And Reagan did a lot of good stuff.
He's a mixture of good and bad.
He's not all good or all bad.
So Reagan says this.
Reagan said that this was the most comprehensive immigration reform of our laws since 1952.
Quote, this is Ronald Reagan.
Future generations of Americans will be thankful for our efforts to humanely regain control of our borders and thereby preserve the value of one of the most sacred possessions of our people, American citizenship.
I'm sorry.
Did we get control of our borders thanks to Ronald Reagan?
No, in fact, it got worse.
It was more illegal immigration.
There were more people that came into the country.
But what Ronald Reagan did is Ronald Reagan gave amnesty to millions of people that broke into the country before him because he thought that we would win them over for a generation, that we would win over the Hispanics and they would all be Republican.
Mr. Reagan continued, oh, Barney Frank is in here too.
It's like all the same people.
This is one of my favorite parts.
Chuck Schumer says, quote, the bill is a gamble.
This is from 1986, a riverboat gamble.
There's no guarantee that employer sanctions will work or that amnesty will work.
We are headed into uncharted waters.
Mr. Schumer said the current situation was unacceptable.
The government caught 1.8 million illegal aliens in the fiscal year ended in September 30th, an increase about 30% a year.
So about 2 million people were coming across the border a year.
And by the way, back in 1986, you weren't allowed to talk about mass deportations.
You weren't able to talk about the wall.
So what did Ronald Reagan do?
Ronald Reagan said, we're going to give them all amnesty.
And we're going to have a lot of teeth of the bill.
Guess what?
All the teeth of the bill got struck down by the court as being racist.
So all of the good stuff of the bill got struck down and all of the other measures weren't even enforced.
But you know what, of course, was upheld was amnesty.
New York Times writes, there's no way to know how many illegal aliens in the United States are.
This is seven years before I was born.
To give you an idea, seven years before I was born, we had this exact same debate and we did it and we tried it and it was a catastrophe.
Not only did it create more illegal immigrants, the border remained open and no, the Hispanics all of a sudden were not Reaganites.
They became the base of the Democrat Party.
They became the base of the modern left.
Do you know why?
And here's what no one wants to talk about.
When you give them amnesty, a lot of them are then eligible for government benefits and they can then seamlessly go on food stamps, on welfare, chain migration, and they don't all of a sudden start wearing MAGA hats.
I don't know how you win over Hispanics.
Do what Donald Trump did because we won over Hispanics.
It's not amnesty.
It's mass deportations.
People are saying, Charlie, you know, what about Epstein?
Charlie, what about Iran and Netanyahu visiting?
I said, look, all that is worthy of maybe a segment.
That pales in comparison.
Listen to me.
That pales in comparison to the civilizational import of whether or not we have deportations or amnesty.
All of that is smallball.
The Epstein thing we can talk about.
We need to deconstruct the administrative state.
We need to unseal documents.
I agree with all that stuff.
Got it.
I'm on board for all of it.
I have as many questions as you have about all this.
But I am a step ahead and trying to say, listen, this amnesty push could ruin everything.
Now, I want to listen to you.
I want you to listen to this.
This is Ronald Reagan, who a lot of people think is wonderful.
I think he's fine.
I think he's generally a good president.
There's a lot of things he did well.
More than anything else, he loved America and was a believer in America and had good intentions.
And I think he was a patriot.
And he did help dismantle the Soviet Union.
And I think he deserves a lot of credit for it.
But Reagan exploded the deficit.
He expanded the United States military unnecessarily.
He never assailed the deep state.
And he did mass amnesty.
He's also responsible for no fault divorce in California, all sorts of stuff.
But mass amnesty was the greatest legislative accomplishment of his term.
It was the one that he, honestly, he regretted the most in his later years.
And look, you had a grade on a curve.
The Cold War was big, and so I want to be very clear and fair about that.
This is Ronald Reagan bragging about this piece of legislation.
This is Ronald Reagan telling us that people come from all over the world to become Americans.
He's pitching mass amnesty to you.
This is Ronald Reagan saying that anybody can be an American.
And it's so neoliberal idealistic.
And at the end of his little diatribe here is one of the more nauseating one-liners from neoliberals, where he says, we get our strength from people around the world.
Hold on, hold on.
Time out here.
We get our strength from our culture.
If a nation got their strength from people who just visited and moved there, then France would be amazing right now.
London would be incredible.
Germany would be the greatest country in the world.
Europe would be a great example of mass migration.
It is just pure, shallow, neoliberal garbage.
It's just Reagan not thinking very deeply, reading his words on a piece of paper.
This was the Republican Party before Trump.
But I want you to think about what he's saying here as he's signing mass amnesty.
He's saying that people that come to the country, that's where we derive our strength from.
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You can go to live in France, but you cannot become a Frenchman.
You can go to live in Germany or Turkey or Japan, but you cannot become a German, a Turk, or Japanese.
But anyone from any corner of the earth can come to live in America and become an American.
For it's the great life force of each generation of new Americans that guarantees that America's triumph shall continue unsurpassed into the next century and beyond.
Other countries may seek to compete with us, but in one vital area, as a beacon of freedom and opportunity that draws the people of the world, no country on earth comes close.
Because unique among nations, we draw our people our strength from every country and every corner of the world.
If we ever close the door to new Americans, our leadership in the world would soon be lost.
If we ever close the door on new Americans, our leadership would be lost.
That's how you got Zohran Mamdani.
That's how you got Elon Omar.
That's how you got Rashida Tlaib, that ridiculous pablum that Reagan was pushing.
Oh, if we ever close the door on Kenyan refugees, ever close the door on people from Uganda, that's how you have allowed the nation to be infiltrated by Islamists, third worlders, Haitians that do not assimilate.
Be wary, everybody.
Be on guard.
Because on the heels of this phenomenal legislative accomplishment by President Trump on the border, you knew D.C. wasn't going to allow it because they kind of, they sucked it up to vote for all that border security and that deportation money.
And they were whispering, we're getting amnesty next.
We got to nip this in the bud.
Not going to happen.
Red line.
And I trust President Trump to come to that conclusion declaratively.
What he said at the rally, I'll defend it.
It's just rhetorical trial ballooning poll testing.
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We're going to cover the Epstein files thing.
But in some ways, I just want to take a step back.
I want to make sure you guys understand on the Epstein thing, it's important.
It's all about the administrative state, but you have to rank things in terms of importance.
But as we were planning this program, I said, look, the most important thing is I'm hearing all the chatter.
I'm on these group texts, and then I'm getting pitched.
And whenever someone pitches me on Mass Amnesty, I say, guys, do you watch the Charlie Kirk show?
The big three objections, and I just want to go through them again, is that it's hard to get rid of them.
We totally agree.
We know it's hard, but we do hard stuff in America.
By the way, we have self-deportations, we have ICE, we have all that.
And then we have number two, they say, well, so after it's hard is number one.
Number two is that, well, it's going to be economically disruptive.
Okay, I can understand that to a certain extent, but there are legal carve-outs for seasonal workers.
There's H-2B visas.
Now, I'm very skeptical about that.
I have a lot of concerns about it, but that's a thing.
It exists.
So you don't have to march across the border and illegally domicile yourself.
Now, the H-2 visa, they're supposed to go home.
again, I don't trust it.
So maybe ICE can be involved in that and manage it.
So that's a whole other component.
But that still exists.
That's a thing on the books.
And then the third of which, which is the one that I just, it's just someone that does not have any political pulse on where the current MAGA movement is.
Because if we were to do mass amnesty or anything adjacent to mass amnesty, and look, they're not going to call it amnesty because we have sufficiently been able to define the terms when it comes to amnesty.
Reading this unbelievable, I'm going to read more of this story, this New York Times story, is this.
You will see a 10 to 15, maybe 20% disappearance of the MAGA voter.
If you were to do any form adjacent to amnesty, you would see an evaporation, a disappearance.
Andrew says more than that, in my opinion.
If you even flirt with this idea, it is by far the number one idea.
And let's be honest, guys.
Again, Blake is going to hate this.
So Blake's in South Dakota right now and great American country, but I don't care.
I'm going to say it anyway.
He's going to hate this.
We have all within a couple of weeks, we have a potential schism over foreign policy.
We have the Epstein thing, and then we have the amnesty push.
If you were trying to divide the movement, and if you were trying to basically demoralize, especially the under 35 base that we have helped build, and I sent this to a White House staffer, I said, guys, I said, if you are trying to make my job the hardest possible job, have like the murkiest statement on Epstein imaginable, which is kind of what it was.
And then you have the whole foreign policy thing, which again, President Trump navigated well, but still, there's some tough feelings.
We got to heal those.
We got to remedy that.
I'm much more on President Trump's side than that.
But I know the audience that I represent.
And then you just have a gut punch potentially of amnesty on top of that.
This, oh, we need amnesty because the American people want it.
No, actually, people want mass deportations.
Plug cut 250.
Deporting all immigrants who are here illegally, 55% of the New York Times.
Marquette, 64%.
CBS News, 57%.
ABC News with a slightly different question, 56%.
So what you're seeing essentially here is very clear indication that a majority of Americans, in fact, when they're asked this blunt question, which I believe gets at the underlying feelings, do in fact want to deport all immigrants who are here illegally.
There's no arguing with these different numbers because they're all essentially the same across four different pollsters.
55, 64, 57, 56.
You can't get a majority agreement on anything.
And that is all illegal aliens.
America has been overrun.
We have been the charity case of the third world.
Biden showed open borders in its full horror.
And we are sick of being overrun.
So we have a mandate to solve this.
Voters voted for this.
So why are we even whispering about potentially some sort of bipartisan compromise, especially when 1986 is flagrantly in our face and we're winning Hispanics in major numbers?
This is the red line.
And I think President Trump is going to come to that conclusion.
But we must stay the course.
We must not get weak in the knees.
Stay focused.
This is what the American people voted for.
It's the biggest thing happening in the country.
Joining us now is the next governor of the great state of Florida, Congressman Byron Donalds.
Congressman welcomes the program really quick out of the gate.
We were talking about how there is this push for amnesty, and I have first-hand experience from this.
Can you also confirm that you've heard these rumors as well?
I've heard talk about it on the Hill, but to be honest with you, I don't think the votes are there.
I know that's not something I could support.
And let's be very clear why.
We've had an illegal immigration issue in the United States for really 40 years.
What Joe Biden did the last four was the most unconscionable of all of it.
So what we need to do, Charlie, is following what President Trump's already done, which is secure the southern border.
That's step one.
Step two is finishing border wall construction and the other elements of complete border wall construction and border security at the southern border and also at the northern border.
That's what the one big beautiful bill did.
The third piece is going to be the deportation efforts along with consistent border security.
And that's where this thing is really going to either come together or fall apart.
And so I think you got to accomplish the first three, the third of which is going to take several years really for the American people to know that America's government is serious about securing the nation and not just playing games with border security.
That's how we got into this mess in the first place.
So I don't think it has the votes in the House.
Number two, that's not something I could support.
We got to obviously secure the border, send a lot of people home.
But when it comes to mass amnesty, I'm not there.
And I think there are a lot of members that aren't there either.
Yeah, it is a red line.
No mass amnesty.
And you and I both are hearing the same kind of chatter and the same sort of nonsense that is being pushed.
So let's now talk about how important the Big Beautiful Bill is and how it funded ICE and funded the mass deportation effort.
That is what we should be emphasizing, how we're going to get deportations because of the Big Beautiful Bill.
Brag on it to our audience that might not quite understand the accomplishment, the civilizational win that is included in the Big Beautiful Bill.
Well, I'll go back to border security before I get to the tax pieces.
We're talking about $150 billion to do the very thing that conservatives, Republicans, and quite frankly, most Americans have been wanting to see since Reagan's amnesty in 1986.
So since 1986, there was a promise from the Democrats to fund border wall construction.
They reneged on that deal.
Donald Trump had to fight tooth and nail just to be able to build a couple hundred miles of it.
We are not going to finish border wall construction.
That's in this bill.
Second thing that's in this bill is the logistical forces, bed space, vehicles for Tom Holman and Christy Noam to do the job of sending criminal illegals out of this country in a timely manner and then beginning to work through the more than 10 million that Joe Biden let in.
People need to know what Joe Biden did was a combination of things.
He did asylums.
He did parole.
He expanded children coming across the border without adults.
They were actually separating kids from their parents at the southern border because they figured it was easier back with Title 42 to bring unaccompanied minors into the country before Title 42 was rescinded, and then they had to come back in.
They had to come in with an adult.
So, the big, beautiful bill lets all of us to accomplish that.
When it comes to defense, it gives us money to modernize the defense department in terms of the warfighting effort.
Wars and how they have been fought historically have changed significantly over the last decade.
What Israel just did in Iran is indicative of that, where it wasn't just your airplanes.
It was also drone technology being used on the ground to take out small sites on the ground.
So we have to modernize DOD.
That's in the bill.
There is provisions in there about being able to become energy dominant, drill, baby, drill, like the president likes to talk about.
That's going to mean a lot for the future of our energy security.
And then when it comes to tax policy, this is the largest middle-class tax cut in American history.
What we did at the top rates is we kept those consistent.
So your top earners just have consistent policy back from 2017.
That's great stuff in tax policy.
But with the new stuff, no tax on tips, no tax on overtime, no tax, I believe it's on the first, there's an additional $6,000 tax credit for Social Security benefits.
That helps seniors on the bottom end of the income ladder, working families, middle-class families.
We kept small business taxes consistent.
The Schedule 199A, that was scheduled to go up.
So we kept that consistent over the next decade.
Actually, I think that part's permanent.
We brought in 100% expensing for the next couple of years.
So if a business goes out and acquires a piece of equipment, they could expense that 100% on their taxes and have to follow some accountant-derived depreciation schedule to help the tax people in Washington, D.C. So we did monumental tax policy, which is going to stabilize not just our economy, but allow it to grow into the future with energy policy and then the policies that Donald Trump campaigned on that the American people wanted, which is security of the border and deportations for illegals.
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So explain the depreciation.
For some people in our audience that don't run businesses, they don't quite understand it.
What will this mean for economic growth?
For people that are now talking about buying new machinery, buying new forklifts, what does this mean for a company, business improvements?
And what is this proven to do on the industrial side of our economy?
Well, under the president's first tax policy, there was a provision for 100% what we call expensing in the first year, meaning if you buy a piece of equipment under the old tax system, you would depreciate or shave off a portion of that value over a period of years.
So if you bought a press, a hydraulic press, let's say, you could actually, you would have to depreciate or take a portion of that value over the next five or seven years on your taxes.
And you could probably take the first 30% in year one, another 20% in year two, and that number would shrink every single year until you got to year seven.
So as a business, you'd put that money out in year one, but you wouldn't be able to deduct it off your taxes until over a seven year period, which means you delay actually seeing the benefits from a tax perspective on writing down the amount of income.
What we did is say, if you bought the piece of equipment in year one, you get to deduct it in year one off your tax liability.
What that's going to help businesses do is it's going to incentivize them making capital expenditures in our economy immediately, as opposed to having to find a way to scale out the cost over several years.
With the president's position on trade policy, trying to bring manufacturing back to the United States, what that means is if somebody decides that they're going to get out of China and build a plant in America, they would be able to expense the cost of building that plant in the first year.
Major incentive for bringing manufacturing to the United States or for businesses currently in the United States to expand your manufacturing capabilities or any other capabilities they might be doing.
Great win for economic growth in the United States.
What a phenomenal explanation there.
Thank you, Byron.
Byron, can you also dive into this $1,000 investment account that every new baby is going to get, the Trump Baby Bonus Account, if you will?
And look, I don't like to racialize our politics.
I think that's dumb and it's terrible.
But a complaint that you get and that I get whenever I talk to black communities or the black voting bloc is they say, what have politicians ever done for me or for my kids?
Well, now we can say for every new baby, black, white, Hispanic, Asian, do you have a $1,000 investment account that can mature beautifully over 18 years?
What will that mean, not just for the politics, but also creating stakeholders that they have some form of, dare I say, equity in the system?
Yeah, what that will do essentially creates a wealth fund for every child in America is what it's going to do.
As long as parents or the guardian leaves those funds in the account.
When you have a deposit like that, when a child is born for the first 18 years of life, I mean, assuming that the money grows at a normal interest rate, what you would have is a growing nest egg for that baby when they're born, whether it's age 18 when they become adults and it becomes their property, or what they really should do is not touch it at all and leave it until the age of 65 or 70 or 72, whenever they decide.
I agree.
I was told, though, that it's lockboxed.
Is that not true?
Or can yeah, today it is.
And so I would say that, you know, the one thing about Congress is current Congress can't bind a future one.
So there's something always, something you have to stay vigilant on.
I could just imagine.
I just want to understand the moral perversion.
Could you imagine that we finally have a win for our kids?
We finally have something that is secure and safe and one-way Dropboxed.
and some degenerate Congress in the future will be like, hey, now parents can access it.
So we could further rob our kids of their future.
So I'm glad you put that caveat on it.
But the way it's written right now, parents can access it.
Is that right?
That is correct.
The way it is right now, it's lotboxed.
And I was stressed, this is why people have to stay vigilant because future Congresses, they can do what they want to do.
But that being said, what this would do is it provides people with an ability to begin to be in the game of building wealth and really building generational wealth.
And you would think like, oh, it's $1,000.
It's not a lot.
But when you look at time value of money, which is the eighth wonder of the world, that deposit will grow over time.
For all your listeners in finance, it's called the rule of 72.
The rule of 72 is that if your money earns 7.2% over a decade, it doubles over that decade.
The converse is also true.
If your money owns 10% over every 7.2 years, it doubles.
So your $1,000 theoretically can go to $2,000 to $4,000 to $8,000.
And that doesn't say about, and it doesn't say anything against the parents or that individual child deciding to open up other investment accounts and making other deposits as well.
Like my son is 21, just started his job last week.
The thing we talk to him about is start saving, start saving now.
Just put it away because trust me, by the time you start getting into your 60s, it'll be a major pot of money, a couple million dollars actually, when you sit back and look at all the stuff you did.
So final thought here.
I know that you and your wife, Erica Bowa, you guys are going to be at our Student Action Summit this weekend, are huge school choice advocates.
This bill doesn't get it all done, but it's still a massive school choice win accomplishment.
Just 30 seconds, brag on that for our audience.
Please, Byron Donald's.
For the first time ever, there are federal tax credits for school choice.
You will be able to, up to a certain threshold, deduct the costs of putting your child in a school that you want from your federal income taxes.
Major win for the school choice movement.
There was more we wish we could have got done, but this is a great first step.
And like I said, can't find a future Congress.
We could always add on to it going forward.
Byron, great job.
We're behind you 100% as you seek to be governor of the state of Florida.
We'll see you this weekend in Tampa.
God bless, my friend.
Thank you.
See you, my friend.
Take it easy.
Some people are very upset that I touched the third rail and I dared criticize thy holiness of Mr. Reagan.
I'm sorry he wasn't a perfect president, okay?
There's a lot he did wrong.
Amnesty was a catastrophic failure.
He was a good president.
He did more good than bad, but he was not perfect and he should not.
I actually think that a lot of the problems of the modern conservative neoliberal movement is the over-veneration of Ronald Reagan.
I don't think we should insult him.
He wasn't a bad president.
He was far better than H.W. Bush.
He was way better than Carter.
We came out of a malaise.
Interest rates went down.
I mean, of course.
But there's this over-veneration with Reagan that means we need more heroes, okay?
That means that there are other things.
The conservative mind in the modern era that I was raised in is World War II is basically the most important event ever to exist, and Reagan was the greatest thing ever.
Fine, okay.
But honestly, I think Dwight D. Eisenhower was a better president than Ronald Reagan.
I think Eisenhower is a much better president in every objective possible way.
Eisenhower was probably top three of my favorite presidents.
Eisenhower did deportations.
He built the American highway system.
He was non-ideological when it came to trade and economic measures.
People forget Eisenhower.
We should have a big picture of Ike.
Ike warned about the military-industrial complex and an unelected scientific elite.
He coined the term in his farewell address.
I think Eisenhower was a fabulous president.
And for whatever reason, I think I know the reason.
It's fine.
It's understandable.
Reagan was a phenomenal communicator.
He was great on TV.
He was shot.
He was really a positive force when we were so negative in the 70s.
So I get that.
Trust me.
I really, I understand.
I didn't live through it, but I get that.
He revived American patriotism.
He was full of optimism.
The 70s was full of Vietnam War protests.
And after Carter and after Iran and after the hostage crisis and after high interest rates, and we just felt like a country that was in decline.
And Reagan, more than anything else, just was a cheerleader for the nation.
And he deserves a lot of credit for that.
And he looked good in comparison to his two counterparts prior and after, Carter and Bush.
But by no means should we look at what he did with amnesty and say, yeah, we should do that too.
In fact, that was a really bad decision he made.
So where do the American people stand on amnesty and mass deportations?
By the way, as we are doing this program, our kind of warning shot on amnesty, it's going viral all across the internet, which should.
By the way, I'm not making this up, obviously.
Byron Donalds validated what we said.
He said, yep, I've heard the same thing.
Let's go to cut 251.
Deport all undocumented immigrants.
You go back to 2015, I'm going to come to your side of the screen.
It was 42%.
Hello.
Go to 2016.
It was 36%.
Look at where we are now.
This was taken at the end of last year, 56%.
This is 20 points higher than it was just before Trump got into office the first time.
So feelings towards immigration in this country, feelings towards undocumented immigrants and deporting all of them have become considerably more hawkish.
And I think that gives Donald Trump much more leverage to go with the American people and sort of have these hawkish, some might say harsh, different rhetoric and also issue-based sort of going after immigrants who are here illegally.
And so I think the American people are going to give Donald Trump the benefit of the doubt to do what he wants to do, at least if you believe these blunt questions, including this one.
Biden opened the borders and changed public opinion on mass deportations in a supremely powerful way.
The Biden-Harris agenda was we're just going to flood the country.
It's going to be a charity case for the rest of the world.
We will be a dumping ground for the third world, and people are just going to suck it up.
We will change the polity forever.
Play cut 252.
CNN reports that Americans, number of Americans that want illegals and legals deported is the highest level since 9-11.
Play Cut 252.
Want immigration levels decreased.
This includes legal and illegal immigration.
Look at this.
Last year, 55%.
That is the highest level since the 9-11 aftermath.
You go back just to 2020.
And there's, again, legal and illegal.
people want less people coming into the country.
Exactly.
They want less people coming into the country.
Look at that.
That's a 14-point rise from 2023.
You go back to 2016 when Donald Trump again was running for president the first time, it was 38%.
That's a 17-point rise.
So the bottom line is more folks want people who are here illegally deported, and their overall feelings towards immigration have become considerably more hawkish since Donald Trump was first getting in office case.
We are not a nation of immigrants.
We're a nation of settlers that assimilate to what has been built.
People have come to this country and they've benefited it tremendously.
But it's because they assimilate to something above them.
This is the key, is that you must have a transcendent creed or ideal.
Diversity is not our strength.
And we are not made stronger by open borders.
Our culture is amazing.
Our people are powerful.
Our heritage is precious.
We are the greatest civilization ever to exist in the history of the world.
And we celebrated this last Independence Day weekend.
And President Trump deserves such phenomenal credit for the big beautiful bill.
And I believe President Donald Trump will continue to execute on mass deportations and stand up to the amnesty push and the people in his ear right now.
Thanks so much for listening.
Everybody, email us as alwaysfreedom at charliekirk.com.
Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.
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