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June 2, 2025 - The Charlie Kirk Show
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Islam: Incompatible With the West, Incompatible With Civilization?
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Charlie Kirk here, live from the Bitcoin.com studio.
Terrible attack in Boulder, Colorado.
We talk about why Mohammedism is continually incompatible with Western society and Western civilization.
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Joining us now is a great friend and one of the clearest thinkers in the conservative movement and author of a very important book, Trump's Triumph.
Of course, I'm talking about the patriot himself, Speaker Newt Gingrich.
Mr. Speaker, welcome to the program.
Congratulations on your new book.
And it is timely as we are seeing President Trump's triumph unfold in real time.
Mr. Speaker, tell us about your book.
Well, first of all, thank you, Charlie.
You do such a great job.
I'm delighted to be here to talk about Trump's triumph, America's greatest comeback.
I started writing it in October because I was sure he was going to win.
And as a historian, I wanted to put a framework for the American people on how he had made this huge comeback and how America had made a huge comeback.
And it's that combination that makes this an unusual moment.
I think there's a very real chance.
That Trump is going to become one of the most important change agents ever to occupy the presidency, certainly in the same league as Jefferson, Jackson, Lincoln, and Franklin Delano Roosevelt.
And if he succeeds, if he wins in 26 and 28, when his policies continue to move in the right direction, he will, in fact, I think, become probably the biggest change agent since Lincoln.
It's a remarkable experience and it grows out of the American people.
The American people want this.
They rejected Biden.
They turned around and rejected Harris.
You know, no candidate in history has beaten an incumbent president and an incumbent vice president in the same year, except Donald Trump.
So it tells you something very profound was going on.
So, Mr. Speaker, I want to dive into that.
I agree that President Trump historically will be viewed the same as the greats in American history, but I want to talk about the movement that he started.
Have those other presidents that we mentioned, Washington, he's kind of in a league of his own, but Lincoln, FDR, did they have movements that lived longer than their own presidency?
And did they have movements that had the same sort of peaks and troughs, the ups and the downs, the crescendos and the decrescendos that the MAGA movement has had?
Can you talk about the durability, the fortitude and the resiliency of this movement, Mr. Speaker?
Yeah, look, I think this movement goes all the way back to Goldwater.
In 1964, and I think you can see the original frame of it if you go to YouTube and pull up Ronald Reagan's amazing October 1964 speech, A Time for Choosing.
It relates today.
I mean, Reagan went right to the core of the American people, the American Constitution, and whether or not a big government socialism could work.
Those issues are as alive today as they were in October of 64. Then you had the Reagan Democrats.
We joined in.
Then we had the contract with America and won control of the House for the first time in 40 years, got re-elected for the first time in 68 years, not since 1928, had Republicans won twice in a row.
And we shifted the whole balance of power in Washington.
Then people were frustrated.
The Tea Party movement sprang up in 2010.
And you have to see the Obama-Biden cycle as a sequence.
Biden's just Obama's third term.
And all the great policy mistakes start with Obama.
And that further alienated people.
And Obamaism was repudiated in 2016.
The left counterattacked in ways that were unimaginable.
I mean, you know, Calista and I were there.
We first talked with Trump in February of 2015 in Des Moines about running.
And I would never have dreamed, all the experiences I've had, I would never have dreamed the savagery.
The viciousness, the dishonesty of the FBI, the Central Intelligence Agency, the New York Times and the Washington Post.
The counterattack on Trump in his first term told you how real he was because they were terrified.
Then the election was rigged in 2020, which turned out to have been one of the greatest mistakes.
The left ever made because it gave Trump four years in the wilderness to think through what he's doing and what he wants to do.
It made him much more bold, much more determined, I think, than he would have been if he'd gotten reelected.
And the other thing I would say is that they really underestimated his capacity.
So you both had the American people.
Who were increasingly fed up with the left.
And you had this extraordinary charismatic leader who I think is captured best by giving out french fries at McDonald's and then getting on a garbage truck and putting on a garbage collector's vest and walking into a 50,000 people arena and saying, they tell me this makes me look thinner.
Maybe I should wear it for the rest of the campaign.
I mean, the ability to connect with humans.
Remember, 87% of the country goes to McDonald's at least once a year.
And 40 million Americans, including Jeff Bezos, have actually worked And from a historical lens, I want to stay on this theme.
The story very well was supposed to be that...
The story that they wanted to write was that it was overwhelming, and this guy from New York kind of put up his hands, and he surrendered, and he went back to Mar-a-Lago to golf, and he was a one-term surprise, one-off president, and we kind of rid ourselves of that.
We got it out of our system.
But that's not the story that we end up with.
There's something special about his fortitude.
Talk about how unusual this is.
Not just America's greatest comeback story, but just how unique what we have lived through is.
Well, let me point out, by the way, we're speaking during a week when the Trump endorsed candidate just won the presidency of Poland in a very narrow way.
So there's something very big going on planet-wide.
Trump does make a big difference, and I think you have to start with, let me just ask yourself, as you point out, this is a billionaire.
Who I think owns like 18 or 19 golf courses.
He could go home, spend the rest of his life being happy.
He gets assaulted viciously for four years.
Loses what I think is absolutely a rigged election.
is at his low point after January 6th with everybody pounding on him, including a number of Republicans.
And he ends up, you know, And I really think he believes that, that this is an act of citizenship and of patriotism.
And then, having already been investigated, impeached twice, had four different efforts to put him in jail.
Then he has two assassination attempts.
And I remember when Cliss and I made movies about John Paul II and about Ronald Reagan.
They were both shot by an attempted assassin.
And when they first got together, they compared notes on why did God spare them?
And they concluded God spared them to defeat the Soviet Empire, which they did in the following eight or nine years.
Well, I think Trump, and I know this in part from Speaker Mike Johnson, who was with President Trump in Mar-a-Lago the day he was told about the second potential assassin who had been caught literally on the golf course.
trying to get ready to shoot the president while he was golfing.
And as Johnson told me, that really broke through.
And I think that's why you see in the inaugural address and in later speeches that I think Trump really does think he was spared.
Because as you'll remember, Butler, if he had turned one second later, he'd have been dead.
I said at the time, this was a providential event.
I totally agree.
I completely agree.
So I think Trump, like Reagan and Pope John Paul II, really does think he's on a mission.
And his mission is to make America great again.
And you watch him every single day.
He's working his heart out to do that.
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Mr. Speaker, yesterday we saw a terrible terrorist attack in Boulder, Colorado, of an illegal Muslim who overstayed his visa granted by the Biden administration.
Your reaction, Mr. Speaker?
Well, it's like everything we're seeing on campuses.
We are going to have to make a decision, which the Europeans have not been able to make, that we are not going to accept people who come here to engage in terrorism or come here to impose radically changes on us that we don't want.
And I think we're going to have to go through a process.
And this is why they're changing the whole student visa application process.
Because if you end up being the kind of person who has been on the Internet explaining how
And we have an obligation to protect our citizens from the kind of nutcake professors at some of these big universities who are preaching hatred of America or preaching the destruction of Israel, an act of genocide.
And I think, you know, we've had a series of wake-up calls.
The bombings of the American embassies in the late 90s, the attack at 9-11.
Again and again we've had these wake-up calls.
And what happened in Boulder, Colorado is just one more wake-up call.
And I am for, in this case, locking that guy up for the rest of his life because he tried to kill a whole group of people in a very horrible way using a flamethrower.
But I'm also for saying, if those are really your views, you have no place in the United States.
And I think for American citizens, we're going to have to adopt very tough rules because you can't tolerate this kind of hatred and this willingness to kill your fellow citizens.
So, Mr. Speaker, to kind of provocatively point in that direction, and again, I encourage everyone to check out Trump's triumph, Mr. Speaker's new book.
Is it time for us to reconsider what countries we're actually allowing people from?
Is there an Islamic fundamentalism problem?
And I don't just mean radical Islamic terror, but is there a problem that Western civilization has to reckon with that?
Are we going to continue to import tens of thousands and hundreds of thousands of Mohammedans that believe in this ideology that is basically a sleeper cell under the surface of Western civilization, Mr. Speaker?
Well, I certainly think we have to look at.
And it goes deeper.
For one thing, those who would impose Sharia law, which is a religiously based legal system, I think have no place in the United States.
This is a straight up fight.
What kind of country are we going to be?
And I do not want Americans to be a place where all too many European countries have allowed so many people in who are alien.
They have no interest.
You know, if somebody wants to come to America, I'm for that.
Chris and I made a terrific film called Journey to America about people who come here legally from all sorts of backgrounds, including, for example, Henry Kissinger.
But I am against our blindly allowing people to show up here who explicitly want to replace the United States, want to impose on us.
Radical values that fundamentally violate our belief system.
And I think that we have to recognize you cannot have political correctness if it means the death of Americans.
In closing, Mr. Speaker, what would you say is the biggest challenge currently, one minute remaining, to President Trump finishing this triumph and having a successful second term?
The biggest challenge is to convince the American people that this is the best path forward and that they have to turn out and vote in 26 and then turn out.
In the end, and it's a great thing about America, as Abraham Lincoln said, with popular sentiment, nothing can fail.
Without popular sentiment, nothing can succeed.
We have to both do the right thing and convince the American people that it's the right thing.
Mr. Speaker, thank you so much.
Everyone check out the book Trump's Triumph.
Really appreciate your time as always.
Thank you so much, Mr. Speaker.
Great to be with you.
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Okay, let's talk about what we know.
Yesterday, there was, it could have been even worse.
And this is a pattern, and this is a theme.
And we don't talk about every single one of these stories in great detail, but when you start to see a pattern emerge, you have to isolate it, which is the...
And this illegal alien Egyptian lunatic, Islamist, Mohammedan, shows up with molotov cocktails and attempts to try to kill all of the pro-Israel Jewish protesters that are out there, and with a makeshift flamethrower.
Now, praise the Lord that this guy didn't just come with a gun.
He tried to be really just grotesque in how he was going forward.
I don't think anyone died, thankfully, but that situation is still unfolding.
Let's go to cut 230.
This is the FBI has confirmed the attacker yelled, free Palestine.
Play cut 230.
I'm able to confirm there are six victims, ages 67 to 88. All of them...
This attack happened at a regularly scheduled weekly peaceful event.
Witnesses are reporting that the subject used a makeshift flamethrower and threw an incendiary device into the crowd.
The suspect was heard to yell, free Palestine, during the attack.
As a result of these preliminary facts, it is clear that this is a targeted act of violence and the FBI is investigating this.
As an act of terrorism.
So I have many thoughts on this.
The first of which, he yelled, free Palestine.
The same thing that that very evil individual yelled in Washington, D.C. when he killed that couple, of which were Christian, outside of the Jewish Museum in downtown Washington, D.C. We also saw the attempted firebombing of Josh Shapiro's home.
This is a pattern.
And it's only continuing.
What is driving this?
Well, first of all, and this just needs to be said, the misunderstanding of what is actually happening between Israel and Hamas drives people to do insane stuff.
For example, front page of the New York Times says, over 20 killed at Gaza aid site.
Crowds in need of food come under fire.
This has been completely debunked.
This is a complete misunderstanding and total exaggeration.
The Israel PR department, the government of Israel PR department is the worst I've ever seen in the history of civilization.
They're not even countering it.
Instead, I had to go to Bill Ackman's X feed and Twitter feed where he himself was actually debunking it.
So it's just not true.
It's fake news.
There's a lot of detail to this that was just been completely debunked.
But of course, the New York Times runs with it.
So then you have a country of Mohammedans brought to you by the Bush family.
And brought to you by Obama and Biden and weak Republicans, where we have decided to import millions—well, I don't know how many.
The number would be interesting.
At least a million, but hundreds of thousands of Islamists into our country, and they have killed children, and then it ends up being millions.
So this guy in particular was an illegal alien.
He should not have been here.
So I want you to understand, when judges are getting in the way of mass deportations, they are protecting this guy from going back to Egypt.
What was his name again?
I don't quite know.
So, this guy is, and by the way, the media said this was a white male that did this attack.
Wrong.
He was an Egyptian, Islamic, national.
An illegal alien who came with a makeshift flamethrower.
Oh, was his name really Muhammad?
What are the chances?
That's really something.
Ah, his name was Muhammad Salaman.
Yeah, they are Muhammadans.
See?
What are the chances?
Despite the nature of the charges brought against suspect, Mohammed Sabri Solomon, there's still going to be a whole fight about extradition, about getting them out of our country.
So when judges are getting in the way of us doing mass deportations, every day there are terrorists in this country that are just waiting to erupt.
Another point on this that I think is important is that If you are a Jewish American, or a Christian for that matter, you should walk around armed.
If you are a Jewish person in this country, you should never leave your house without a firearm.
I hate to talk this way.
I don't want to try to scare you.
I don't want you walking around with certain paranoia.
But I'll tell you a story.
Last week I was in the Fox News green room and they have the most wonderful makeup artists and Fox has been great to us and it's been a mutually wonderful relationship for...
In fact, yeah, it's 13 years ago.
It was my first Fox News hit while I was a senior in high school.
And this woman who is a makeup artist, I'm not going to say her name, she said she was in New York visiting a family friend.
And apparently there was some terrible situation that was unfolding in the subway, of which is normal.
And this black woman didn't want the Asian woman to sit next to her.
Basically, get away from me, Asian woman.
So the Asian woman was without a seat.
So this makeup artist, who was wearing a Jewish Star of David, offered the Asian woman to sit next to her.
The young Asian lady, late 20s, walks up to the Jewish woman with the Star of David, sees it and says, oh, you're a Zionist pig.
I would rather sit on the floor than sit next to you.
Now, that's a one-off story.
You couple that, though, with some of the other just brain rot that I'm seeing, the kind of just, the, we're going to blame Jews for everything.
Type of narrative that's building in the West.
And I think to myself, there's something that is degrading in front of our eyes.
Let me be very clear.
You are not smart, wise, or sophisticated if you blame the Jews for everything.
Instead, you're probably just, you don't have your life together and you're looking for someone to blame.
Pretty simple.
It is a brain rot.
It is a cancer.
It is a tumor.
Instead, maybe you should just get your life together and get married and have children and stop looking at X all day long.
In fact, you know what?
It is so similar to what leftists do, which again, we're seeing this as left-wing terrorism.
How you fight it is multiple ways.
You don't fight it by censoring speech you don't like.
You don't fight it like what David Friedman said, where he wants to put people in prison.
You don't do that.
You fight it in the public square.
But just to speak as real talk as possible, if you're a Jewish person, you should have a firearm on you at all times.
And then that comes to also the tough love.
And this is where they're going to forget everything I've said up to this point.
This is where they're going to call me an anti-Semite.
You ready?
Even though that Charlie honors the Shabbat, he's writing a book on the Shabbat, he's learning biblical Hebrew, this is where they're going to call me an anti-Semite.
But it's true.
To the Jews of America, how are you still voting Democrat and why are you still giving money to the institutions and the charities and the political parties that hate you and want you dead?
My tolerance with the American Jews that are giving money and playing footsie with the American left is nothing.
In fact, my patience has completely run out.
If you want to just be independent, go be like some of these other new thinkers that are just kind of in the middle, and I don't like either party.
But if you are an American Jew and you are continually giving your own philanthropic dollars to nonprofits that hate you, let me be even more blunt.
If you as a Jewish American, if you as a Zionist, whatever you want to say, are not to the right of Pat Buchanan on immigration, then what exactly are we doing here?
If you are not calling for a complete moratorium on immigration, you've got to wonder, why is that?
So you want the borders to stay wide open so more young Jews could be hunted down in the streets?
And look, the terrorism gets all the headlines, but it's the soft bigotry that we are seeing on a daily basis.
And I have to ask the Jews of America, do you have a death wish?
I mean, I'm saying that as bluntly as possible.
You should say no more Muslims coming into America.
Why is it that the ADL...
They're going to blame the right for this.
It's somehow Charlie Kirk's fault that this Egyptian Mohammedan is throwing Molotov cocktails.
The ADL is helping protect you and your community from anti-Semitism and extremism on the streets, online and on campus.
Thank you for fighting hate for good.
You want to fight hate for good?
Stop bringing them into your country.
By the way, the Mohammedans, there's over 60 Muslim-majority countries they can go to.
Go to Tunisia.
Go to Libya.
Go to Syria.
They got a new leader.
More than 24.1% of the world's population is Muslim, with an estimated total of approximately 1.9 billion.
Muslims are the majority in 49 countries.
And again, this is not about individual Muslims.
My primary care doctor and great friend, Dr. Zutty Jasser, is a Muslim.
It is about macro-Islam.
It is about what does it materialize when you bring in millions of them and they form their own communities, their own Sharia ways of life, and they have a tendency not to assimilate.
And so why do they have to come to America?
And again, I will say this.
Why is it that American Jews are so silent on this?
Why is it that I, as an American I guess it's just my job.
But there should be, and it won't be, there should be Jews marching in the streets with all the combined financial and political power that American Jews have, which is quite a lot because Jews are very successful because they honor the Torah.
You honor the Torah, you're going to be successful.
You value education.
If all the Jews got together, they could close immigration immediately.
Why haven't they, exactly?
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Music This is a big issue.
This is an issue of civilizational importance.
And I have something to say for all three groups.
All three Abrahamic monotheistic religions.
Let me first start with my own, Christianity.
For the pastors of America, you've got to speak out a lot more about the threat and the rise of Mohammedism in the West.
A lot more.
You're not talking about it enough.
You're afraid of being called names.
Knock it off.
Cut it out.
Look at what the Bible has to say about this.
Teach the story of Hagar.
Teach the story of exactly the origination of this religion.
And then how about somebody condemns the beheadings of Christians?
We work at this amazing organization, Voice of the Martyrs, and they catalog all of these.
We should have them on the show.
Of all the Muslims that go after them, 70 Christians were beheaded and silence.
So 70 Christians get beheaded in the Congo and silence.
And meanwhile, if you say something that could be perceived as racist to a black woman on a subway, It warrants like a national federal hate crime investigation in a church.
So 70 Christians get their heads cut off in the Congo by Islamic fundamentalists, and we're like, oh, you know, diversity is our strength.
So Christians, about time you talk about it more.
Muslims.
My message to Muslims is you need to try to go through a reformation similar to the Protestant Reformation.
My friend Zutty Jasser's been talking about that for a while.
It would be good for the world.
It'd be good for a world to liberalize Islam.
I don't know if I'm bullish on that, but it's worth a try.
And then number three, to the Jews.
If you, as a Jewish American, value the country, then you must speak out against this.
And here's where I'm going to get in a lot of trouble, but I don't care.
For too many American Jews, the religion is leftism, not Judaism.
For too many, not all.
But for too many.
And therefore, there is some cognitive dissonance going on.
There is some ever-unfolding contradiction.
Now, not Israeli Jews, not the Mizrahi or the Sephardic Jews that have moved to Israel.
No, they're fine.
American Jews, far too often, they are secular leftists that will identify as Jews.
And they are Jews.
I'm not saying they're not Jews.
I'm just saying they will say they are Jews.
And their religion is leftism.
And their catechism is the New York Times.
Their Vatican is Harvard.
And leftism is the glue that keeps so many secular American Jews together.
And I'm starting to see some migration.
I'm starting to see more and more Jews as we say, wake me up.
But somebody proved me wrong on this.
Somebody proved me wrong that the vast majority of American Jews value the Torah more than the New York Times.
Someone proved me wrong.
In fact, right now is a very holy day.
It's Shavuot.
I don't know what percentage.
Again, I'm not here to police people's inner religious.
And by the way, make no mistake, this terror attack was done right on the eve of a holy day.
It almost always tends to be that way.
Shammat Torah, Rosh Hashanah, Yom Kippur War, just think about that.
So those are my three messages to the three Abrahamic faiths.
Christian pastors start speaking out.
Muslims start reforming.
And Jews, most importantly, stop funding.
Stop donating.
Wake up.
And if you guys don't become radical right-wingers, I hate to say it, you're going to keep on getting hunted down in the streets.
And it's not because of right-wing extremism.
It's not because what ADL says.
It's because of Mohammedism and leftism that's come together to destroy the West and they will hunt you down.
Wake up or you'll be hunted.
Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
Email us, as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.
Thanks so much for listening and God bless.
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