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Hey everybody, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show from the Bitcoin Mobile Studio.
I'm Andrew Colvett, your host for the day.
As Charlie's on assignment at San Francisco State, we have an action-packed show for you.
First, we tell you all about what happened last night at the University of Washington.
Antifa, in Black Block, took over that school.
We have Ari Hoffman from Seattle, who gives us the play-by-play of a really disturbing event that took place there, protesting...
Boeing and a bunch of Hamas supporters.
And then we bring in Alex Marlow to break down the Oval Office meeting between Mark Carney, Prime Minister of Canada, and President Trump.
The art of the deal is on full display, let me assure you, in that Oval Office meeting.
And Alex Marlow is one of the...
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All right, welcome to The Charlie Kirk Show.
This is your guest host for the day.
Producer Andrew Colvett, honored to be with you from sea to shining sea across the Fruited Plain.
Charlie's on assignment today.
He's going to be at San Francisco State doing a big campus event up there.
And it ties in kind of to our first guest, which is Ari Hoffman.
He's the West Coast editor.
We're going to get started right off the bat here with guests.
West Coast editor of the Post Millennial.
He's also a Seattle radio host, Talk Radio 570 KVI.
Ari, welcome to the show.
I wanted to get started with you really quick here.
I woke up this morning, and my alma mater, I went to UW, University of Washington Huskies, was all over the news.
Antifa taking over buildings.
And why this relates to Charlie being at San Francisco State University, you might remember, Ari, and he's going to be there with Riley Gaines, is that Riley Gaines did a turning point.
USA event there.
A few years back, got locked in a...
She was basically taken hostage in a room.
These trans agitators, I'm sure many of them, friends with the Antifa crowd, trapped her in a room there for hours.
The police were feckless.
They didn't do anything.
Now, explain to our audience, it's just getting caught up on the news today, what happened in Seattle overnight, specifically at the University of Washington, an engineering building, I believe.
Yeah, you wouldn't even recognize the place after what happened last night, Andrew.
So this is a brand new building they just built with grant money from the feds, from Seattle, from the state, and from Boeing.
Boeing has this massive engineering program out at the University of Washington.
So the Hamasniks and Antifa activists decided they were going to take it over to protest Boeing supplying Israel with weaponry to fight its war against Hamas.
So they took over the building.
About 20 of them were inside.
About 60 of them were outside.
The majority of them, unlike previous protests, they were mostly Antifa activists as opposed to the Hamas activists that have been at the University of Washington campus since October 7th and have been around for multiple protests.
Now, this is also the first time we saw police really come in and break things up.
Let's not forget there was a Gaza encampment there at the Quad for four weeks last year, and the administration caved to all of their demands.
So these activists...
We're dragging out material.
They were dragging out furniture, lighting it on fire along with dumpsters.
This is a brand new building and they're destroying it.
The group that ran this is a student group called Super U-Dub, which is affiliated with groups that are anti-Israel.
They were suspended from campus last year as an official student group because they caused over $50,000 in damage.
To the Husky Student Union building, which is where a lot of the kids hang out, where the food court is.
I don't need to tell you that.
You went there.
But they caused over $50,000 in damage to that building, so they were suspended, yet they're still allowed to table on campus.
And to make things worse, we know that the campus is not prepared for lots of other actions.
They're still allowed to table on campus even though they've been suspended?
How's that work?
So it's just, I mean, lack of leadership from...
University of Washington says, well, it's a free speech issue because it's an open campus and they can be wherever they want.
So a few weeks ago, there's a video that actually went viral of them tabling on campus, and they're selling T-shirts that have Hamas terrorists on them, that have images from October 7th on them, and they're giving out the same material we saw at Columbia University.
From those activists there, that was printed from the Hamas Media Group.
Also, here's something else.
Tonight, there's a Turning Point event on campus featuring Riley Gaines and featuring Olivia Krolchuk.
A few months back, Olivia Krolchuk came to campus to speak, and she wasn't able to do so because these activists shut down the speech.
So the question is, what's going to happen tonight?
Yeah, I mean, Riley's doing the West Coast tour, and that's why this all ties in.
So she's going to be with Charlie at San Francisco State.
During the day for a tabling event and then going straight up to University of Washington to do a second event.
And now University of Washington is set ablaze.
Now, I do want to give some credit here to the police.
I mean, it sounds like it was a bit of a delayed response time here.
I don't know.
How long were the protesters, how long were the vigilantes allowed to sort of set up shop there in the engineering building before police got there?
The police seem to be pretty forceful in this instance to clear the building.
Well, I think University of Washington is worried about losing their federal funding.
They're on the list of schools that's being investigated by the Trump administration.
So what happened was this started around 6 p.m. last night, 5, 6 p.m. last night.
The police breached the building.
They gave the first order to disperse around 1030, and they breached the building around 11. Everybody was in custody and arrested by about 115, 130.
It's a very big building.
So yeah, lots of credit to the police, but it seems like everybody was taken by surprise.
There was no chatter.
There was no posting about this event.
The way they usually do on social media.
So when the police gave the dispersal order at around 1030, they had already assembled on site.
So University of Washington called in the University of Washington police, the Seattle police and the Washington State Patrol, as well as private security to assist with this.
Excellent.
Well, I'm...
A bit encouraged that the police are showing the force that I think is really necessary.
And it is fascinating to watch their tactics change, evolve over time.
As you said, they didn't post on social media.
I heard nothing about this last night.
I woke up and saw all the imagery everywhere.
Just to give the audience a little taste of how this...
How these groups operate.
They're shouting death to police.
Every police death is a victory for the resistance.
Play cut 217.
We charge you with genocide.
Please clear the street.
Shut the fuck up!
Death to the police!
Death to the police!
You can be subject to arrest.
Again, you can peacefully protest.
Do not interfere with these officers.
Abolish the police.
They're real chump.
Every cop dead is a victory for the resistance.
Every IOF soldier killed is a victory against colonialism.
Yikes.
Ari, the best you can.
I mean, this is pure insanity.
The best you can.
What motivates these people?
And why is Seattle and the West Coast, including San Francisco, Oregon, Portland, why is it such a hotbed for these lunatics?
Well, because they've gone away with it for so long.
Let's not forget, this didn't start after October 7th.
This is the kind of stuff that's been going on since the George Floyd riots that rocked Seattle in 2020, since the deadly autonomous zone where you had six people shot, two people who were killed.
Seattle did absolutely nothing about it.
For a month, they let that occupation of six blocks of Seattle exist.
Now, last night was a little interesting because we haven't seen much of Antifa this year.
We've seen them around.
I'm not going to say they were gone, but it's been more.
The Hamas supporters.
This was the first time we've seen a really big action by Antifa in a really long time.
There's always been some of their activists supplementing these guys.
And also, here's something else.
They had a manifesto last night where they called it a student intifada, which means armed uprising.
And they said that following the uprising of student action for Palestine after the heroic victory of Al-Aqsa flood on October 7th, that means they are praising the terrorist attacks of October 7th.
We're happy that Palestine was brought to the forefront of all justice-loving people in the world.
And meanwhile, you're talking about Antifa and Hamas terrorists and terrorist supporters that are destroying campuses, that are targeting Jews, that are targeting Christians, that are targeting Americans on college campuses.
Hamas, the new thing.
I mean, it was George Floyd, it's race, and now it's Hamas.
It's the new thing, always the new thing.
They just adopt whatever that new next thing is, and then they go and cause property damage and vandalize public buildings, especially a brand new engineering building, by the way.
And they're calling for the university to cut ties with Boeing, to cease all donations from Boeing.
It's a really, really dramatic sight out of Seattle last night.
It seemed like it came out of nowhere, too.
And I think that was the shocking part here, Ari.
Thank you so much for jumping on, Ari.
I know you guys had a late night last night covering this story.
Tell everybody how they can follow you and follow along with this story.
I know you're going to be covering it today.
Absolutely.
You can see the writings on the story over at the Post Millennial.
You can follow me at TheHaFather on Twitter, Ari Hoffman Official on Facebook and Instagram.
Appreciate it.
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President Trump is meeting with Prime Minister Carney from Canada in the Oval.
I want to go ahead and throw to that.
It's already been a rather eventful meeting, so let's go ahead and throw to that Oval Office meeting.
25% on aluminum, 25% on steel, and maybe more importantly, massive numbers of companies are moving into the United States.
Honda.
We have tremendous car companies that are moving in at levels we've never seen before.
The biggest investment ever made in the United States is being made right now.
Trillions of dollars.
I would say we could be at nine.
Nine trillion dollars.
You could go back to other presidents.
They haven't had $1 trillion for their entire term.
Look at Biden.
He had bad numbers.
People are leaving.
They weren't coming in.
They were leaving with Biden.
And he didn't know the difference.
The only thing he knew is people coming in.
You know who they were?
Illegal immigrants.
Okay?
From prisons, from mental institutions, from all sorts of places that weren't good.
From gangs, from Venezuela.
They were coming in and there were criminals and murderers, 11,888 people that murdered, and at least half of them murdered, more than one person.
This is what Biden led into our country.
I'm bringing in big companies.
We have Apple is investing $500 billion.
We have Jensen, as you know, is going to be 500, biggest chip maker, or chip thinker, I call him.
He's really a thinker more than a maker.
But we also have the maker, Mr. Wei.
I get to know them all in the last...
It was a cram course.
But they're all moving into America because of the tariffs.
And I don't think people have appreciated it.
Some people do.
Some of the smart people do.
So we have more money coming in.
It's really an amazing thing.
We have...
More money being invested in the United States now than at any time ever before in our history, and it's not even close.
And I think the real number could be 9 or 10 trillion.
We don't know everybody that's doing it.
We have many.
I just heard about a plant that's being built right now, a very, very top-of-the-line company, and they didn't come to the White House.
They're just doing it because they're making it, because if they build here, there are no tariffs.
And this is the big market.
This is the market.
That sets us apart from it.
This is the market.
Where everyone wants to be.
Now, if I didn't come here and do this, all of a sudden we wouldn't be the market where everyone wants to be.
So we're able to do it in time.
But we're going to have a great announcement.
And I'm not necessarily saying it's on trade.
Going to the beginning, we're going to have a great announcement over the next few days.
An announcement that will be so incredible, so positive.
And I'm not saying, I don't want you to think it's necessarily on trade.
Just to finish, we also have Because everyone says, when, when, when are you going to sign deals?
We don't have to sign deals.
We could sign 25 deals right now, Howard, if we wanted.
We don't have to sign deals.
They have to sign deals with us.
They want a piece of our market.
We don't want a piece of their market.
We don't care about their market.
They want a piece of our market.
So we can just sit down, and I'll do this at some point over the next two weeks, and I'll sit with Howard and Scott and with our great vice president who has done...
A really good job.
We have some good news to report on a lot of fronts.
But J.D. will be there, and Marco, and we're going to sit down, and we're going to put very fair numbers down, and we're going to say, here's what this country, what we want, and congratulations, we have a deal.
And they'll either say, great, and they'll start shopping, or they'll say, not good, we're not going to do it.
And I say, that's okay, you don't have to shop.
Now, we may think...
Well, they have a right, you know, that maybe we were a little bit wrong, so we'll adjust it.
And then you people will say, oh, it's so chaotic.
No, we're flexible.
But we'll sit down and we'll, at some point, in some cases, we'll sign some deals.
It's much less important than what I'm talking about.
For the most part, we're just going to put down a number and say, this is what you're going to pay to shop.
And it's going to be a very fair number.
It'll be a low number.
We're not looking to hurt countries.
We want to help countries.
We want to be friendly with countries.
But you keep writing about deals, deals.
When are we going to sign?
It's very simple.
We're going to say, in some cases, we want you to open up your country.
In some cases, we want you to drop your tariffs.
I mean, India, as an example, is one of the highest tariffs in the world.
We're not going to put up with that.
And they've agreed already to drop it.
They'll drop it to nothing.
They've already agreed.
They would have never done that for anybody else but me.
So we're going to put down some numbers, and we're going to say, Our country is open for business, and they're going to come in, and they're going to pay for the privilege of being able to shop in the United States of America.
It's very simple.
It's very simple.
So I wish they'd keep, you know, stop asking, how many deals are you signing this week?
Because one day we'll come and we'll give you 100 deals.
And they don't have to sign.
All they have to do is say, oh, we'll start sending our ships right now to pick up whatever we want or to bring whatever we want.
It's very, very simple.
And I think my people haven't made it clear.
We will sign some deals.
But much bigger than that is we're going to put down the price.
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President Trump is continuing on with his Oval Office meeting with Mark Carney, Prime Minister of Canada.
We are joined by the great Alex Marlowe, editor-in-chief of Breitbart News.
Alex, thank you so much for taking the time today.
So much news just erupting this morning.
President Trump is still meeting with Prime Minister Carney in the Oval, talking about doubling down that he wants to make Canada a 51st state, but they're there ostensibly to talk about a trade deal.
He says the Houthis have admitted defeat, that there's some sort of detente that's been reached there.
We're not going to be striking the Houthis.
He's also announced there is a...
Massive news that's going to be announced on Thursday or Friday, it looks like.
He said it's as big as it gets.
Your initial reaction, I know it's ongoing, what do you make of this meeting between Canada's new Prime Minister and President Trump in the Oval?
Andrew, thanks for having me.
I appreciate you and the whole Charlie Kirk team.
I would start with Carney.
I think what's most interesting here is that Trump is, of course, a...
Negotiator par excellence.
It's one of his key identifying characteristics.
And one thing that's interesting about having a liberal and a guy who knows the money world very well, which is what Carney's background is.
And I think Carney comes off as a total idiot, but he did have a lot of success in high finance.
So I'm sure he's at least fluent on economic stuff.
The fact that he is a political opponent ideologically to Trump I think actually makes things easier to negotiate because the name of the game for Trump is to try to get more support for the United States from Canada when it comes to in particular energy production where they slow walk a lot of energy production and get more favorable trade deals to make sure that they're securing their border and making sure that that is another avenue for illegal immigration into our country.
And perhaps most relevant here is that China has co-opted Canada in many ways, and Carney's allowed for that to happen.
They tried to intervene in that election on Carney's behalf.
There were Canadians who were essentially, I believe, killed in China over petty drug issues during the run-up to the election, and Carney was silent on this stuff.
Trump's going to hate all that.
None of that is going to be said directly to him in his first meeting.
Trump's going to be very classy.
But Trump is in a position where he can really negotiate hard with Carney.
If he was with Pierre Poiliev, who was just starting off and was the first conservative government in 10 years in Canada, that would have been a much harder negotiating position for Trump, who really would like Poiliev to succeed.
This is a win-win for Trump with Carney.
Either he's going to dominate Trump and get to be the alpha, or even better, they'll work together.
Trump will slay another liberal dragon and convince the world that he is the premium negotiator of our time.
That's, I think, a really smart insight, Alex, that having an ideological foe across the table.
Trump is almost better in that setting.
Yeah, absolutely.
And it means the dividing lines are very clear.
We know where we agree.
We know where we disagree.
And it allows for a more honest back and forth in some ways.
It's just easier, for lack of a better expression.
Yeah, I think you're 100% right.
I'm sitting there.
Candidly, I do not want Canada as a 51st state.
We don't need another California-esque voting bloc in America.
But Trump's sitting there going like, I think it would be great for Canada.
It would be a big tax cut right in front of the prime minister.
And then the prime minister says...
It's not for sale.
And Trump still sits there and goes, never say never.
I'm a real estate guy.
Never say never.
A pretty striking moment there.
Alex, do you just chalk this up to just Trump's constant pushing forward in a negotiation where he doesn't concede ground until the final moment?
As a news person first, I'll try to give you my analysis after, but as a news person first, I just think it's so sensational.
I love it.
Whenever Trump does this stuff, Trump, first of all, he trolls everyone, even the most powerful people in the world.
We all need that.
I just think that it's good for the human spirit to have to defend yourself, and you should not.
Life is not easy.
It isn't for anyone.
And Donald Trump can tell you that.
Most powerful guy in the last hundred years in the world.
And still, they make his life difficult for him every second.
So it is, I like that.
He makes us reassess the way things are, even things that we take as fundamental, is that Canada is just going to be Canada forever and there's nothing we can do about it.
Well, he sits around and thinks, well, why is that?
Maybe not.
Maybe they need to be the 51st state.
I think if you did it, Andrew, you'd have to break it up three ways.
You'd have to leave part of the liberals up there, the real left flank.
And then you'd maybe get two more states.
It'd be like 51st and 52nd state.
Do I honestly think Trump's going to do that?
No, I don't.
But him continuing to...
It's an intimidation tactic.
It's a trolling tactic.
It gets you off your game.
He knows exactly what he's doing, and I'm absolutely here for it.
I think that's smart.
I mean, listen, as somebody who doesn't want Canada, I can concede that Alberta would be a great addition.
I would take Alberta and Oil Sands.
But you see this pattern, and this can come up in any context of whatever story we talk about today.
Trump likes to get the announcement going first.
He likes to play the whole...
He doesn't play the whole chess game at once.
It's not a poker game where you've got three or four moves.
He plays it like a chess game.
He plays it as if there are 50 moves.
And he'll throw something out there, and he'll just see how you react to that.
And then he can adjust his strategy accordingly.
So for all these people who mock Trump as not playing chess, he literally plays chess.
Everyone else plays, you know, war, where you've got one move.
It's the...
No, Trump plays a 50-move game.
Yeah, it's diplomatic brinksmanship, and I think it's wildly entertaining.
I do think that's probably why Mark Carney is the Prime Minister of Canada right now, instead of Pierre Poilier, or however you say his French name, who lost his own election.
I just got it.
I think it's Poilier.
It took me about three months.
Poilier.
Yeah, I think so.
The other breaking news this morning that I want to hit with you, Alex, is Tom Tellis is officially saying to reporters now that, and he's informed the...
He is going to not support Ed Martin as U.S. Attorney in the District of Columbia.
Let's go ahead and play 224.
He is, I don't believe he's being advanced to the markup.
And I met with Mr. Martin.
He seems like a good man.
Most of my concerns related to January 6th, and he built a compelling case on some of the 1512 prosecutions that were probably key to the moment bad decisions, but where we probably...
I have a difference.
I think anybody that breached the perimeter should have been in prison for some period of time.
Whether it's 30 days or three years is debatable.
But I have no tolerance for anybody who entered the building on January the 6th.
And that's probably where most of the friction was.
So the difference wasn't that they should be charged, in my estimation.
It's by how much.
And I've indicated to the White House I wouldn't support his nomination.
So, Alex, Tom Tillis is a no.
There's not very much margin for error here in the Senate.
Tell us, a reminder for our audience, if Ed Martin is not confirmed by Senate Republicans before May 20th, then Trump-hating Judge Boasberg gets to choose the replacement.
Yeah, that's the story.
This is not a great situation here because it's a very powerful job that Ed Martin's got.
Ed Martin's a great guy.
Ed Martin was, when I was on Sirius XM, he was one of my regular fill-in radio hosts.
He is completely pure of heart, pure MAGA, and a seasoned veteran of the conservative movement, which is, for me, the best.
People who have been consistently, consistently down for the cause for decades.
Those are the exact type of people you want to elevate to these top jobs.
And the U.S. Attorney for D.C. It's not only a local district attorney.
It's someone who gets to prosecute D.C. crimes, clean up crime at a federal level, and thus really kind of touching on crime all over the world.
And he can really focus in on government corruption.
He's the perfect guy to do this.
And so this is really destructive from Senator Tillis if he is not bluffing here.
And he said flat out he's a no.
And I've been telling this to media a lot.
He says that probably...
He's got others with him.
This is the threat that's being made.
So a lot of people are suggesting maybe we should bring this to the floor, make Tillis put his money where his mouth is, see who else is out there who would vote no to stop this.
But the obsession with January the 6th, there were so many people who were enthusiastic about supporting Trump on that day.
I'm not a big January the 6th guy, Andrew.
I wasn't there.
I didn't think the stuff that went down was great.
But it's the, when can we move on from this?
This should not be a deal-breaker in this modern times after the overreaction.
To give the left a scalp here would just be truly idiotic.
And if anyone feels like they can reach Senator Tillis at this point, you've got to make the move fast.
But I am concerned that this is some sort of a bigger leadership coup that's going on from elements of Senate leadership.
I'm just trying to read between the lines.
I don't know who specifically.
McConnell comes to mind, obviously.
But there's something going on here beyond Tillis.
Yeah, let's go ahead and throw up.
We have a number for the audience to call his office.
I think we need to absolutely melt his phone lines down.
This is Senator Tom Tillis' office number.
Please call him.
Tell him, be respectful, be polite.
But call Senator Tom Tillis.
Let him know that we want Ed Martin in as U.S. Attorney for the District of Columbia.
We can't give this to a Democrat.
It's a completely unnecessary.
Loss.
We'll be ceding ground.
We need to be attacking and taking ground.
So go ahead and please call that number.
And the number is 919-856.
That's 919-856-4630.
And Alex, I love that you have a personal relationship with Ed Martin.
I think that's fantastic.
The bottom line is, whatever your thoughts are on Ed Martin, whether you think he's too radical on J6, I'm a little bit more passionate about J6.
I think a lot of people got caught up in a frenzied moment.
Okay, sure.
But grandmas do not need to be going to prison.
They don't need to be using the Enron statute to lock up people that were basically peaceful, took a selfie and walked out.
So, yeah, 30 seconds, Alex.
Yeah, of course.
I mean, and the fact that I wasn't like a huge J6 booster should speak more.
I think that even lends more credibility here.
Everyone was overcharged and he wasn't violent.
And Martin's not a violent person.
And if you were going to have a threshold, it would have to be violence.
And that was what J.D. Vance established.
Trump wiped that out.
And he said that we don't even care.
We're letting everyone out.
And which I think was wise in a lot of ways.
Martin is not a threat for violence.
He's an outsider who's ready to shake stuff up.
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All right, Alex, let's go through some of these moments.
I just have to play this because it's so brilliant.
233, this is on Canada becoming the 51st state.
233.
President, you have said that Canada should become the 51st state.
I believe it would be a massive tax cut for the Canadian citizens.
You get free military, you get tremendous medical cares and other things.
There would be a lot of advantages.
It won't stop, Alex.
And then I'll play one more clip just in the interest of time.
236 says India has already dropped, agreed to drop all of their tariffs.
We're going to say, in some cases, we want you to open up your country.
In some cases, we want you to drop your tariffs.
I mean, India, as an example, is one of the highest tariffs in the world.
We're not going to put up with that.
And they've agreed already to drop it.
They'll drop it to nothing.
They've already agreed.
They would have never done that for anybody else but me.
Alex Marlow, your reaction.
Yeah, let me...
First of all, let's take the 51st state.
Let's take it literally for a second.
So if the benefit for Canada would be they'd get American military might...
And they would get the cohesion with our country, which we have a lot of shared values.
And it feels like something that could be benefit for them in terms of national security, especially as they've been infiltrated from China.
And we have much more robust law enforcement that can help them crack down on some of the crime that they have, that they're starting to deal with illegal immigration, etc.
With us, it also helps out with national security because Canada is sort of an unknown because they're weaker about dealing with that stuff.
China is encroaching that country with bothers us.
We can finally get the fentanyl under...
And just generally, expanding and dominating the continent sounds very appealing, but the main thing there is energy.
It is energy.
Trump cares mostly about energy.
He understands in the AI arms race we're in, Andrew, we need more energy than ever.
We're not getting this connection.
If we're going to beat China at AI, then we need to be able to get every single ounce of energy out of the ground.
And Canada moves very slowly on this.
Joe Biden moves slowly on this.
And if we can control it ourselves, I think Trump sees it as a benefit.
Now, again, I don't think it's going to happen, but I think it's worth...
Taking it seriously.
And if you look at India and our ties to India that are going to, I think, expand quite a bit during Trump's administration.
Again, think of China.
Think of China.
If we are working closely with India, we become far less dependent on China for some of those cheaper goods that we are dependent on, that we need.
And building up their manufacturing base, it's a realistic way to get these major companies pulled away from China.
If we can't get them to do all their business in manufacturing, for example, here.
Closer ties with India is beneficial to us and to India and hurts China.
That's how Trump is playing his chess game.
Yeah, I agree with you, Alex.
I think to get the oil sands in Canada, I'm not taking it literal, but I appreciate your point.
That being said, Canada is already part of Five Eyes.
We're very integrated in a lot of ways.
This should be an obvious way to...
Bring our countries closer together, cooperate closer together.
Trump is playing his leverage hand.
But again, Canada can be a massive ally for us as well as India.
You start linking some of these countries together and boxing China out, there's going to be a lot more leverage on China if we can hammer out some of these trade deals.
Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, Thailand.
Australia is going to stay close to us.
30 seconds, Alex.
Where do you see this ending?
Trade deals imminent?
Or is he going to slow walk this?
Yeah, I think this is why he's playing chess.
I don't think he's got all the deals completely mapped out in his head, but he knows, I think, where it's most important to make a deal.
He knows where he's got the most leverage.
And again, whenever you're hearing him speak, we're hearing about China.
That's his main concern.
He was hip to this before any other major conservative.
And so all he's trying to do, all the moves he's going to make, if he feels like he's protecting us from being dependent on China, then he's going to cut deals.
And if he doesn't feel like he takes a step in that direction, he won't.
All right, Alex Marlow, the great Alex Marlow, editor-in-chief of Breitbart News.
Check him out.
Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
Talk to you soon.
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