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A Sad Day for the Left: America Isn't Failing
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Okay, everybody.
Welcome.
We are here live in beautiful San Diego.
We have a live audience here, and we also have producer Andrew as well here on this beautiful Friday.
And it is a great day to be alive.
Lots of news to cover.
So let's dive into it.
There was a lot of news over the weekend, including a jobs report.
What was the jobs report this morning, Andrew?
Well, the jobs report beat expectations.
I think Stephen Moore put it really well, where this was over 400,000 actual new jobs that...
People being employed over 400,000.
Jobs report will say 177,000.
That beat Wall Street expectations, which had it around 130,000.
But nonfarm payroll went through the roof.
We're seeing a lot of manufacturing get reshored.
So the changes that President Trump is making in the economy, namely through tariffs, tax
The stock market's up 2,800
points and counting.
You have a lot of these changes that are being implemented in the economy already taking effect.
Do we have the clip of Steve Moore talking about this?
Let's go here.
I think I have it.
486.
Let's play cut 486.
436,000 increase in the number of people who are employed.
So this is an amazing report.
The number of people, the labor force participation rate.
Rose.
So this is a really strong number.
I wanted to mention one other quick thing.
You know, about two weeks ago, every headline, Wall Street Journal, New York Times, Washington Post, was, oh, the stock market is crashing.
And since then, the market has been up, what, like 2,800 points.
Yeah, well, you don't see that headline.
And by the way, I don't see headlines about that.
That was the point that Scott Besson made.
Well, it's important to note, too, that the stock market is not the economy.
The stock market can react to jitters and news.
The economy is growing incredibly strong and is only going to grow stronger with the tax cut that we see coming and deregulation.
Let's go to CNBC.
Let's play cut 483.
The job, job, jobs report for April hitting the wires.
Non-farm payrolls.
A greater 177,000.
We're expecting, as Joe pointed out, 133,000.
177,000 would be the second best of the year outside of what's in the rearview mirror.
Now you have to wonder, are the Democrats happy about this?
I mean, they're the ones saying that the recession is coming.
Are they thrilled that the American economy is doing better and is actually only going to further improve?
You see, the prediction was that by now we would have major job losses.
We have the tariffs.
They said by the summer we're going to see major drop-offs.
But this jobs report has exceeded expectations.
Well, this just reminds me of just about every other chapter of President Trump's political career where the elites and the experts tell us he's doing it wrong, only to be...
find out in the end that he's doing it right, that his instincts have been right all along.
Now, he's not right about everything.
Listen, we're free to disagree with President Trump.
But time and time again, whether it's foreign policy, energy policy, tariffs, President Trump has an instinct for the
I've always been a fan of tariffs.
We have internal disagreements on our team about tariffs.
I get it that it causes jitters in the short term, but we're already seeing, especially with auto manufacturing, where they're starting to replace...
You know, producers and their supply chains, they're reshoring those supply chains.
They're already working on it.
Ford has come out, said they're building two new plants, Hyundai, Toyota.
All of them are making moves to reshore supply chains, which is going to increase American costs.
And also remember, they told us that if the border was closed, it would crater America without cheap illegal labor.
This is a very important point.
The border is completely secure, 99% border crossings.
It's incredible.
We have deportations happening.
So it turns out actually when you close the border, more Americans get hired.
That actually on the books, like what a concept.
And there's a direct correlation with you close the southern border and American jobs actually increase.
There's actually a clip from Bernie Sanders in 2015 talking about how he is not for open borders.
Why?
Because that depresses American wages.
This is a very, very clear line.
And you've made this point on the show a bunch of times, and it's a point that it's worth reiterating, is that we are looking down the barrel of an AI revolution, of a robotic revolution.
So if you're going to keep...
You know, flooding your country with cheap third world labor.
It's unnecessary.
You're also going to be causing a problem down the road where those jobs no longer exist.
And that time frame is way closer than most people realize.
Here's Scott Bessent, cut 145, talking about how the doomsdayers said it was going to be the worst stock market ever.
Again, the stock market is not the economy.
The stock market can react to economic news.
But we're seeing the stock market catch up remarkably.
I think it was at 41,000.
The Dow was at 41,000 this morning.
Yeah.
Again, invest for the long term, everybody.
Play cut 145.
There was a story 10 days ago that said this is the worst April for the stock market since the Great Depression.
10 days later, the NASDAQ is now up in the month of April, and I haven't seen a story that says, oh, stock market has biggest bounce back ever.
Well, it certainly has gone back and forth.
I think a lot of this is media-driven.
Of course, and this is the most important clip of them all, which is, this is Joel Scheilman, who's a CEO of a company called eShares.
Even these CEOs believe the propaganda.
They think, like, well, the economy must be bad because everyone says the economy is bad.
So he is on the front lines of hiring and investing, and he's even surprised at how good the numbers are.
Let's play Cut 489.
What's interesting, the numbers, by the way, were very, I was a little surprised to see how strong they were, but this is very encouraging because we're already seeing many of the companies dependent upon foreign suppliers.
Already reassuring some of their jobs.
In fact, I talked just recently to a couple of entrepreneurs who are getting off their China dependency.
They are going to other Southeast Asia companies for their supplies, and they're starting to look at domestic manufacturers.
So they're putting orders in already for the third and fourth quarter for this.
And you combine all this together, President Trump, this economy will only get better.
And it's very important, everybody, because...
The media's almost been calling and cheering for an economic collapse.
I mean, can you think of anything more sinister and more wicked than a group of people that want Americans to suffer?
They actually, if they got their way, the market would go down to, you know, 25,000 and people would be out of work.
They'd say, see, I told you Trump is this terrible and awful person.
Well, it's an existential dilemma for them, though, Charlie, because if Trump succeeds, that means their entire worldview is cast into doubt.
These are bad people.
I hate to say it that way.
They're not patriots.
If you are cheering for the downfall of America and you're cheering for – if you want bad economic news, then you care much more about political power than any sort of patriotic allegiance to the United States.
You wanted to play a piece of tape here?
Yeah, I want to play Charles Payne, 484.
One more piece of econ here, and this is talking about manufacturing directly, 484.
As I look at this initially, the one thing that really jumps out to me that I love, transportation and warehousing.
Up 29,000.
Some of this manufacturing, some of these deals that the White House has announced, maybe we're starting to see that already play out.
Yeah, I mean, so the White House has said that it's over $5 trillion in foreign investment in manufacturing.
And by the way, speaking to our earlier point about technology and robotics and AI, these are investments in warehousing, data warehousing, energy capacity.
These are high-tech investments in the future from Apple, NVIDIA and others, SoftBank.
This is not like, you know, those images in your head of the...
The steel welders, although we love the steel mills, don't get me wrong, this is the jobs of the future.
Advanced manufacturing.
Exactly.
This is a very breaking news day.
Late last night, we're going to cover this next, President Trump signed an executive order defunding NPR and PBS.
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Do we like that?
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They love it, and I didn't have to ask them to clap, like Jeb Bush.
They loved it.
And we're also going to go deeper into some of the other really good news of the day, including what I thought was a phenomenal segment that Jesse Waters did with Doge.
I don't know if you guys caught it or not.
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Late last night, President Donald Trump signed a, I would say, a pretty ambitious executive order, one that I truly appreciate, which is he defunded NPR.
I've got to do that in your NPR voice.
It's amazing how you don't even have to call.
There's no applause sign here.
I'm going to do that in my NPR voice.
It's very exciting.
You see, I always say that NPR is left-wing radicalism.
Said very smoothly.
It's like laundered in.
I know.
They launder in the radicalism.
Welcome, everybody, to the NPR broadcast.
Wouldn't it be nice if capitalism was no more?
Did you know you're a racist?
Yeah.
Buy a tote bag.
Did you hear that white people are awful?
Exactly.
Let's go cut 507.
President Trump defunding NPR and PBS.
President Trump is looking to slash funding for NPR and PBS, alleging bias in their news reporting.
The president signing an executive order on Thursday directing several agencies to stop federal funding for the public broadcasters.
No, no, time out.
Defunding is also one way to put it, but here's my challenge to NPR.
Go raise your own money like Turning Point USA has to raise money.
You see?
You gotta go.
You gotta go meet your own donors.
You gotta go talk to people.
Just don't go to the U.S. taxpayer and have us subsidize your radicalism.
And so, think about that.
That's half a billion dollars.
I mean, I think NPR and PBS are completely redundant anyways.
You already have New York Times.
Right?
I mean, what do we need NPR and PBS for?
The problem with PBS...
PBS used to have some good stuff.
...is that PBS is able to get into child environments because it's PBS with incredibly sexually explicit content that is now laced in this trans insanity and this radicalism and critical theory.
But look, NPR, NPR especially, has become...
It's too bad because I actually remember a different NPR growing up.
I mean, they were still liberal, but...
It was at least, like, entertaining.
I mean, you guys remember Garrison Keillor?
It was like Little House on the Prairie.
Was that what it was called?
It was Little House on the Prairie, right?
No, it was what?
Prairie Home Companion.
That was close.
He was from Mankato, Minnesota, if I remember correctly, right?
And that was somewhat listenable.
And then Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me was a pretty good show, if you guys remember, on NPR.
And then they had the car show every Saturday morning, which...
Right?
You know what I'm talking about?
And now you listen to NPR, and they might still have these shows, but this is what's important.
NPR was really smart.
They took the taxpayer money, and they diversified into podcasting, and NPR podcasts are very popular because they have $500 million to produce it, and they are unspeakably radical.
That sounds like they should be making money then, Charlie.
Well, that's right, but here's the thing.
So the third biggest podcast out there is NPR.
We right now are on the charts.
We're number nine, which is great, in Apple News.
And just so we're clear, I go through NPR's list, like the list of their episodes.
Continued crackdown on immigration.
Trump defies the law.
I mean, it's so outrageous.
And so if you want to go do that, NPR, you've got to sell a lot more tote bags if you want to finance yourself.
And that's fine.
This is my position with Harvard.
No one's saying you can't exist.
Go raise your own money.
Go to donors like we do on the conservative side and go convince people to voluntarily give you money.
You know what would happen if...
PBS and NPR had to start making money and justifying their own existence.
You'd get classics like Ken Burns' baseball.
Come on, that was actually fantastic.
Do we have any baseball fans out here in the audience?
Come on now.
Give me some.
All right, thank you.
So Ken Burns and baseball, they replay this stuff still because it's still their most popular content as opposed to their more radical stuff.
Yeah, and the New York Times is not publicly financed.
And they do fine.
They have a subscription-based model.
And I do not—here's the theory.
They know this.
NPR is so redundant.
What niche are they really feeling other than they're just more left-wing noise?
And I will say this.
If the Republicans in Congress fail to defund NPR and PBS, because Trump can only do so much by an executive order, that will be one of the easiest— The Democrats would never put up with it.
But that is an equivalent.
And another funny thing is they often say it almost gets no money, so this is pointless.
Okay, so what's the holdup?
If they say, like, well, we don't get that much money.
I'm sorry, $500 million is a lot of money when you're running a media operation every single year.
Every single year?
Every year, you get $500 million.
Not to mention, during all the Floydapalooza stuff post-2020, their articles about the looting and the rioting was so outrageous, was so out of the norm.
And so, I gotta be honest, I love this.
It might not be a ton of money in the grand scheme of things, but beyond that, the rebalancing of the American narrative war that this would do is remarkable.
Think about how conservative this country could become if we weren't subsidizing the Democrat Party with our own taxpayer funding to have them have a bigger microphone than they actually should have.
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Okay, let's close the thought on NPR here.
Yeah, absolutely.
And let me just, I made a point in the break that I think is important.
When you do not have to raise your own money, you don't have to earn it.
And therefore, you don't have to actually have the best possible product, which allows you to become super radical.
And so if NPR actually had to go to donors, donors would ask the question, well, what do you do?
Why do you exist?
What is your impact?
Instead, they just go to Congress, specifically Democrat members of Congress, and they say, I'm just going to do air cover for you and for your agenda.
You have a headline.
They feel entitled, too.
Of course.
This is great.
So throw 513 on the screen, please.
So this is an article from NPR, and here's the headline.
Trump says he's ending federal funding for NPR and PBS.
They say he can't.
This is...
NPR reporting on itself in the third person.
In the third person.
It's like...
They say they...
They is you.
Why don't you just say, we think this is bad.
This is them trying to be like, no, we're objective journalists.
So I'm going to say the third person, they.
This is the height of absurdity.
But it gets even more absurd.
Because...
Catherine Mars, the head of NPR, and this is a clip from her.
She's awful.
She's a radical who is trying to kind of whitewash some of her past, but you can't.
You can't hide the eclipse.
The Internet is forever.
515.
The number one challenge here that we see is, of course, the First Amendment in the United States is a fairly robust protection of rights.
And that is a protection of rights both for platforms, which I actually think is very important that platforms have those rights to be able to regulate what kind of content they want on their sites.
But it also means that it is a little bit tricky to really address some of the real challenges of where does bad information come from and sort of the influence peddlers who have made a real market economy around it.
So this is the head of NPR saying that the First Amendment is a real problem for publishers.
So she's anti-American, she's anti-free speech, and this is subsidized by taxpayers.
And here's the last point I'm going to make, Charlie.
The Democrats say this is an earmark of dictatorship, that you're trying to play winners and losers in the media space.
No, the earmark of a dictatorship and of an authoritarian regime is that you have state-sponsored...
Media.
That says what you want it to say.
And that's what they have.
Let's just be clear.
Why is it that Canada has struggled to have an equivalent right-wing movement?
Because they have CBC, the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation, which is all publicly financed, and it is so, so left-wing.
And also the BBC, the British Broadcasting Corporation.
Same sort of thing.
So when you have these instruments, these organs that are funded by taxpayers...
Now, thankfully in America, we are still a semblance of a free society.
And the First Amendment is our birthright.
The reason we're able to push back on this nonsense is we're able to speak freely without threat of imprisonment.
But in these other countries, they are the predominant...
They are the predominant news organization.
It's very similar to Pravda in the Soviet Union.
Pravda literally meant truth in Russian, where you weren't able to question it.
And NPR thankfully has been flailing, but don't underestimate their influence.
What they've been able to do on podcasting is legitimate because they poured so much money into it, and there's no reason why taxpayers should subsidize it.
Do you have that other clip of the...
I don't know if you guys saw this, but Germany, just today, the news, is that they have now...
The intelligence community in Germany has now labeled AfD, Alternative for Deutschland, Germany, as a radical entity.
So this allows them now to harass AfD, to censor them, to basically surveil them, and essentially criminalize their activities.
Correct.
And so AfD is now the most popular party in Germany.
It's essentially the closest equivalent that we have to MAGA, if you will.
It's a nationalist party.
In Germany, they have all the vestiges of World War II hanging over them.
They've lost their confidence in that.
So they instantly say, oh, we've got a Nazi, a fascist party.
That's not what this is.
This is like strong borders, anti-open borders party.
It's very MAGA in spirit and in tone.
And now it's probably criminalized.
By the way, why are we still subsidizing Germany if they're locking up and potentially criminalizing opposition political parties?
They say that America is a threat to democracy.
Europe is no longer the democratic beacon on the hill that they say they are, and they haven't been for quite some time.
Let's play Cut 494.
A little bit of breaking news coming in to us from Germany.
The Reuters News Agency is reporting that the country's domestic intelligence agency has classified the Alternative for Germany party as an extremist entity that threatens democracy, a move that enables it to better monitor the party,
which came second, of course, in February's federal election.
And I want to just, this is what would have happened if Kamala Harris would have become president, everybody.
If Kamala Harris was in the White House right now, Turning Point USA would be recognized as an official extremist organization.
They were already spying on groups like ours.
They were already trying to infiltrate us.
And it's amazing how on July 13th, not only did Donald Trump dodge a bullet, but America dodged a bullet too, preventing Kamala Harris from becoming president of the United States.
Because we look at what's happening in Canada.
These other countries are not becoming freer societies because America is course-correcting.
They're doubling down on becoming unfree, totalitarian countries.
And it's chilling.
In Germany, if you say something that's considered racist online, they will raid your home, they will take your devices, and you will face prison time.
What is considered to be racist?
If you question mass migration.
If you say that immigrants are making Germany not as nice of a place, they could raid your home.
If you question, yeah, Muslim immigrants.
No, that's right.
If you say that Muslim immigration might be, which of course it is, everybody.
We know that it's a problem in Germany.
If you say that, they will come and knock.
Can we get that piece of tape, actually?
Yeah.
I think it's really important.
60 minutes.
But every day I wake up and I just say, thank you, God, that Donald Trump is president.
Because I look at these other Western countries and they are becoming more and more radical.
They're becoming more and more extreme.
And the United Kingdom, where I'm actually going to go debate at Oxford soon, they're putting people in prison and in jail for making documentaries, for challenging the status quo.
And I hope Americans, especially American conservatives, can understand that the trajectory is away from speech and away from quote-unquote liberal democracy.
And think about how insane that clip is you just watched.
Well, we're going to punish the most popular political party because it's a threat to democracy.
Oh, really?
What the people want is a threat to democracy.
Every time you hear the word democracy, you must replace it with oligarchy.
Now let me restate that statement.
We must now lock up and penalize the top political party because it's a threat to our oligarchy.
Now it starts to make sense.
When they say democracy, they really mean oligarchy.
Well, and they view the election of Donald Trump as a cautionary tale because America was unsuccessful in...
Clamping down on the speech.
We are the one that got away.
Every other Western government right now has become less free from France, from Germany, UK, from Brazil.
Brazil is an unfree country.
You're following what's happening in Brazil?
They're basically killing Bolsonaro right now in medically controlled hospitals.
I encourage you guys to...
Listen to our program, because we cover this stuff, because the mainstream media here in America doesn't really cover what's happening in these other countries, and it is an exceptional moment that we live in the United States of America.
Do we have the clip here?
Is it loaded up?
One second, yeah.
Yep, 518.
Okay, so I want to just preface this.
This is just one of hundreds of clips we could play.
This is 60 Minutes that went to Germany.
This is the Stasi, the secret police, in Germany, doing midnight raids on young people.
Taking their devices and then putting them potentially in jail because they said stuff on the internet.
Wrong thing.
That was wrong.
This is where Western democracies are going.
What is it?
518, play it.
518, play it.
It's 6.01 on a Tuesday morning.
And we were with state police as they raided this apartment in northwest Germany.
Inside, six armed officers searched the suspect's home.
Then seized his laptop and cell phone.
Prosecutors say those electronics may have been used to commit a crime.
The crime?
Posting a racist cartoon online.
At the exact same time across Germany, more than 50 similar raids played out.
Part of what prosecutors say is a coordinated effort to curb online hate speech in Germany.
Guys, this is Germany.
This is not Ghana.
This is a country we subsidize with our taxpayer dollars, by the way.
And military.
Our military.
And they did 56 a.m. raids against people that posted racist cartoons for breaking the law.
This is what Kamala Harris wanted to bring to the United States of America.
And by the way, who knows if it's really racist?
No, but by the way, their definition of what is racist is...
And by the way...
Being racist is not a crime.
Let's just keep on repeating that, okay?
You're allowed to be unseemly.
You're allowed to push boundaries.
You're allowed to say things that might be improper.
That is what free speech is all about.
But free speech is not a German value, and free speech is not a European value.
And so, just to reiterate that, you have to wonder, you might as well put the Berlin Wall back up at this point.
It's like, the Berlin Wall fell, and who actually won?
Did liberty win or did communism win?
Because that's not what the promise of the fall of the Berlin Wall was.
But what we are getting at, which is very important, the fundamental point is that we in America are actually trending in the right direction.
These other countries are going in the wrong direction, and we have this island now, this island of liberty surrounded by totalitarianism.
Canada is just as bad.
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Okay, let's go through the Doge clips here.
Well, let's set the stage here.
So Jesse Waters got an exclusive invite to go sit in on a Doge meeting.
Now, they don't do these meetings at normal business hours because they never stop working.
This team is a bunch of geniuses that all they do all night and all day is work on fixing.
Really rudimentary problems like, oh, do the databases talk to each other?
Is there a tech issue that's allowing waste, fraud, and abuse?
This was at 10 p.m.
They did a roundtable.
All these super geniuses that have built their own businesses or dropped out of Harvard or whatever, and he's brought them together to solve some of the most confounding problems in our federal government.
And I just want to reiterate, you know how thankful we should be that we have the smartest young people on the planet that want to go into our government and make it more efficient?
Do you know how they've been treated by the media?
Yeah, it should be applauded, right?
How they've been treated.
Their public information's been made.
Their private information's been made public.
They've been doxxed.
So many death threats.
They've been hunted and followed in the streets.
The media relentlessly is going after the personal information of these young people.
I mean, these are wicked and wicked operators in the media.
So how about this one?
Let's play cut 496.
When I say they're super geniuses, I mean, I've met these young kids.
Remarkable.
Playcut 496.
Just a few hours after we got into their headquarters, we found that their chief accountant had actually deleted over a terabyte of accounting records from several years.
So you'd have to ask the question, well, why would somebody do that?
The Doge team, unfortunately, was able to recover that data with the help of a few great employees at the Institute of Peace.
And I think the most troubling thing was they received $55 million a year from Congress, and any money that went unspent, instead of returning that to Congress, they would sweep it into a private bank account, which had no congressional oversight.
And that's what they would use to fund things like events at their headquarters and the private jets.
Sounds illegal, doesn't it?
Private jets?
Yeah, it sounds illegal.
Other things that came out of this discussion, just mind you, is our founders established essentially four agencies of the federal government.
Today we have 400.
400.
So you were hearing him talk about the Institute of Peace, which is another...
Sort of smaller agency.
And it's just the amount of bloat is tremendous.
I want to get to this one.
This is 480.
Elon Musk reveals Department of Education.
We're using taxpayer dollars to rent out stadiums.
Play cut 480.
Department of Education.
And there was no receipts required.
So people would just draw down on it.
And when people looked into it, this wasn't dust.
This was before us.
They found that money was being used to rent out Caesar's Palace for parties, rent out stadiums, etc.
And so the one change that Doge made with Department of Education is we had the simple requirement that if you draw down money, you must first upload a receipt.
That was the only change that was made.
You must upload your receipt.
And upon doing so, nobody drew down any money anymore.
As soon as we asked for anything at all, suddenly the requests were like, oh, we don't need it anymore.
That's interesting.
No one's ever asked them questions.
I want to play this one.
This is one of the super geniuses who dropped out of Harvard.
Play cut 493.
I dropped out of Harvard and came here to serve my country.
And it's been unfortunate to see lost friendships.
Most of campus hates me now.
But I think fundamentally, I hope people realize through conversations like this that reform is genuinely needed.
And we're running out of time, but this is just a montage of Democrats going after trying to make the government more efficient.
Think about that.
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Unelected shadow government is conducting a hostile takeover of the federal government.
This smash and grab by Elon Musk is going to stop.
This is the most corrupt bargain we've ever seen in American history.
Honestly, I just want to reiterate it.
We are so lucky.
We are so blessed.
That not only Trump won, but he empowered Elon Musk.
And every day, every day when you guys are worrying about the country, you have the brightest minds imaginable that are literally working 24-7.
These guys do not sleep.
They do not sleep.
They sleep like two or three hours a night.
They have these sleep pods that Elon brought into the White House.
I don't know if you guys heard this.
They do 90 minutes of sleep at a time at three times a day.
That's it.
And these guys are all up.
And their only focus is to make sure that your taxpayer money is better spent.
And I just can't say how thankful we are.
No other country has this going on right now.
And it is a phenomenal development for the well-being of our republic.
Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
Email us, as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.
Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.
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