Trump's 2nd term is now three months old. How does his second "first 100 days" compare to his first pass? Mark Halperin explains how, whether you agree or disagree with his policies, this is the most monumental and ambitious presidential regime in memory. Then, TikTok's Older Millennial talks about the pathetic end of the "Un-F*** America" tour that tried to harass Charlie's campus tour...until it imploded in on itself. Become a member at members.charliekirk.com! Get new merch at charliekirkstore.com!Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Hey everybody, Charlie Kirk here, live from the Bitcoin.com studio.
What is happening with the first 100 days Mark Halpern unpacks, and then a very fun story about how the left, who tried to oppose Turning Point USA, is in complete implosion because of their woke worldview.
Email us, as always, freedom at charliekirk.com, freedom at charliekirk.com, and get involved with Turning Point USA at tpusa.com, that is tpusa.com.
Buckle up, everybody.
Here we go.
Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.
Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus.
I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.
Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.
I want to thank Charlie.
He's an incredible guy.
His spirit, his love of this country.
He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.
We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
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Joining us now is one of my favorite guests because he tells it like it is.
That is Mark Halperin, editor-in-chief of Two Way, which I loved joining, by the way.
Got great response.
And host of the new program on YouTube and podcast networks called NextUp.
on Megan Kelly's network.
It's Mark Halperin.
Mark, welcome to the program.
Mark, you're beating me in the podcast charts, so I'm looking at it right there.
It's a great surge, and so I hope you stay there because it's well-earned and deserved because you've had the best scoops of the last year.
And I also got to tell you, I got more response being on Two Way than even being on some cable TV shows.
So you have a great viewership.
Well, first of all, three things quick.
Appreciate always being on.
Second one jokey, one serious.
I heard from a lot of your friends who watched our conversation, and thank you for coming on Two Way, who thought that I got you a little deer in the headlights, and they were like...
Charlie's usually unflappable.
Nothing stumps him.
So I heard from a lot of your friends, too.
And again, really enjoyed having you on.
Hope you'll come back.
Serious thing is the passage of your friend, mentor, David Horowitz, who I had the pleasure of meeting and honor of meeting a couple times.
But I just want to tell you how sorry I am because I read what you wrote, very touched by it.
And he touched so many people's lives.
And it really, you and I don't consider ourselves historic figures because it's not the way we think about ourselves.
But we've both had the pleasure of knowing and honor of knowing historic figures.
I'm really grateful for history that you got to meet such an extraordinary person.
Thank you.
And we're going to be honoring him throughout the show today.
And I'll just say one quick thing.
So many guys that run these organizations are territorial.
Don't come here.
I'll steal my donors or whatever.
He actively wanted me to come to his events.
And it helped grow Turning Point USA.
He is on the short list of people that believed in me when he had nothing to gain except trying to just...
Say, hey, who's this guy?
Maybe he can end up doing something meaningful.
And so, a phenomenal, decent, and good man.
So, Mark, I want to dive...
Yeah, please.
I was just real quick.
An incredible mind.
I mean, really one of the smartest creative thinkers I ever met.
And again, just really so happy for you that you got to spend time with someone who, historically, you're a great thinker and really inspirational to so many.
Absolutely.
And prolific writer.
I mean, he would call me for a book endorsement like every nine months.
I'm like, David, come on, man.
It's unbelievable.
So, Mark, we're 100 days in, and the front page of the New York Times.
I got to imagine, actually, that President Trump actually probably liked the front page of the New York Times.
I don't know if you saw it or not, but they said there's never been 100 days like this and had every possible category.
Depending on who you ask, it's either the most tragic and the most terrible 100 days or the most exhilarating or uplifting.
How are you thinking of uncovering these 100 days?
Well...
It's not just knuckleheads who say it's horrible or the best ever.
It's really smart people.
And one of the privileges I have is I get to talk to really smart people who have both views that this is incredible and this is disastrous.
I, you know, Susie Wiles, his chief of staff, who you know, did an interview with the New York Post around 100 days.
And she said on the border, she gives the president an A or A plus.
I can't remember which she said, but she suggested for a lot of other things incomplete.
And I think that's really the only right grade to give him.
100 days is an artificial construct.
Every president and every presidential advisor I've ever covered has sort of complained about it and said, you know, Roosevelt was governing during historic times and you could do a lot in that period.
I think on the big projects, China, Ukraine, inflation, the economy overall, reconciliation, the big budget bill, and of course on tariffs, it's just too soon to say.
But even his critics, I think, have read a lot of the coverage, including the New York Times, say most of what he's done, he promised to do as a candidate.
Most of what he's trying to do are not some projects that he's invented, but that he ran on.
And they may not work out.
Tariffs is one that makes a lot of people you and I both know a little uncomfortable and nervous.
But he's doing what he said he would do.
And that's, I think, again, what presidents should do.
They shouldn't get elected and then invent some whole new agenda.
As we examine the last 100 days, what can we gather that is predictive for the next 100?
The Trump White House seems no signs of slowing down.
Momentum is only increasing.
And are there any places where you think, based on your reporting, where there might be a little recalibration, where they might have went a little too hot and they might dial it back a little
I'm talking to people around the White House and in the White House.
I divide everything into two buckets.
There's the tariffs and there's everything else.
And everything else is a big bucket, right?
It's got Ukraine and China and non-tariff China and everything else.
But the tariffs is such a big deal because I talk to serious people every day, and I know you do too, who think this is the greatest own goal in the history of politics or sports, that he is destroying the world economy, not because of some virus in a wet market or a lab in China.
But through an act of purposeful presidential conduct.
So that's the place where you've already seen recalibration, right?
Some of the tariffs that were put on have come off.
Some of the strategy has changed.
Some of the stated goals have changed.
But I think it's not an exaggeration to say in the next 100 days, the second 100 days, how he handles the world when he's unleashed through the tariffs is going to be determinative, not just about the tariff policy or his economic record,
but I think of his entire presidency.
Then there's everything else.
Some recalibration regarding Putin, but I think that's more tactical than strategic.
I think most of what we're seeing in the other bucket is not shown a lot of change the course or regret on the margins on immigration, on the margins on some of the economic policies.
But for the most part, I think you're going to see more of the same, except in that first bucket, where, again, he has bet everything on a theory of how to make this work.
And I think the challenges, particularly as they relate to China, Are extraordinary.
I read the other day, I don't know if it's true, but it's too good not to repeat.
One in every three things that's made in the world now is made in China.
One in every three.
And I'm sure it's close to true.
So how he confronts China, not just economically, but militarily, strategically, diplomatically, this is as big a play as I've seen any president I've covered done.
People talk about George Bush trying to change the social security system or Barack Obama passing health care.
Those are big, big changes.
Big changes.
One case successful, one unsuccessful in terms of passing a bill.
But this is reshaping the world economy with a few strokes of a few pens.
So one thing that you mentioned, which is the Russia-Ukraine situation, which I'm incredibly interested in, and I hear things I can't say publicly.
You could respect that.
But I'll just ask this question, which is, has this taken them by surprise that this is harder to settle than they might have imagined?
And what does the world look like, in your opinion, if Putin says, yeah, actually, I think I'm winning the war.
Thanks.
I'm just going to keep on marching.
Well, great questions, and I'm super interested in it, too.
It's an interesting story, but it's also important.
And just as with the terrorists, very easy to say the fate of the world hangs in the balance.
Look, I think that President Trump doesn't have much confidence in either Putin or Zelensky that they really want to deal.
And his public comments reflect that.
Some days he thinks, yeah, we'll get a deal.
And other days he's very bearish on a deal.
You know, my joke for a while has been, and it's a grim joke, that Zelensky will make a deal except under two circumstances.
When the war is going well for him, because he doesn't want to make a deal when he's on the march, or when the war is going poorly for him, because he's on his back foot and he knows the terms wouldn't be good.
And of course, those are the only two possibilities.
So Zelensky is a barrier to peace as well.
He's not a dictator.
He didn't start the war.
The way Putin did.
But he is a barrier to a deal because there's no forcing mechanism.
He's always looking for something better.
I think what the deal could be and what each side will have to give up has been clear to everyone I know in the region for a long time, right?
Putin gets to keep some land.
Zelensky gets to keep most of his country.
He gets some economic security, some military security, but not membership in NATO, for instance.
It's pretty clear what it is.
But Putin in the last few days and his government have made noises that suggest he doesn't want a deal.
And the old negotiating phrase, nothing's decided until everything's decided.
Many things will stay undecided, and therefore there'll be no deal.
I don't know what's going to happen.
And your question, you hear lots of people in the establishment in both parties say, well, if Putin wants away, we go back to arming Ukraine and try to help them win the war.
I just don't think there's an appetite for that.
Well, that's where you're right.
That's exactly right, Mark.
And that's where I think a lot of the coverage is missing it, which is like, wait a second.
And I think Putin is smart enough to say, wait a second, there's not an appetite to keep arming my adversary.
So what exactly is it?
I'll wait it out.
Yeah, I'm going to wait it out.
It's the Russian way anyway.
And so that is the issue.
There really right now is no strong incentive for Russia to make a deal.
Other than President Trump and his team saying, look, do you guys want to enter the second world or do you want to be part of a little bit of an ever-growing, softening Western relationship where I don't know Russian politics that well.
Is that interesting to Putin?
Is that interesting to try to say, hey, you don't have to be isolated and embargoed all the time?
A little bit, but not enough to make him give up Crimea or give to a deal on unfavorable terms.
Yeah, and so, again, I'm far from a geopolitical expert on this stuff.
I'm trying to understand also the domestic politics are actually what's driving the potential consequence of this.
And the consensus of some of the senators I talked to said, oh, you know, we'll just arm another $100 billion.
I don't think you quite understand.
You're not reading the room, right?
The temperature here does not want that.
But please, Mark, plug your new podcast so our audience can know that so that you can keep beating us in the charts.
Just search NextUpHalpern.
You can listen to it on all the podcast platforms.
It's also on YouTube.
It's part of the Macon County Network.
I had Ted Cruz on my first episode that dropped yesterday.
Tomorrow, Charlie's close personal friend, Gavin Newsom, will be my guest.
Oh, wow.
That's going to be...
I will listen to that.
That'll be very good.
You see, you get all the good guests.
I have to really fight and scrap, you know.
Yeah, I got to get you on.
But, you know, I can be able to get a better guest because I'm higher than you on the charts.
Well, there you go.
That is true.
Mark, great work.
Thanks so much.
Thanks for the time.
Appreciate it.
Thanks, Charlie.
Good to see you.
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Okay, this is going to be a really fun story to cover, but it's going to require a little bit of explanation and a little bit of wind-up.
Because not everybody in this audience is on TikTok.
So first, I want to welcome our guest.
He goes by the term The Older Millennial.
He has a wonderful TikTok that I've enjoyed.
It's great to have him on the program.
At The New Older Millennial, is that right?
At The New Older Millennial.
It must be a new account after he got banned or something.
Is that right?
I'm guessing.
Yes, that's correct.
The New Older Millennial, account number 65. Okay, well, you and I should chat.
About that offline.
So we're going to now set the table here.
So at Turning Point USA, we have these incredibly successful campus tours.
Our audience is well aware of that.
We're drawing thousands of people to them.
The video interactions literally are seen billions and billions of times on social media.
So enter...
The left, they see the impact that we're having, and a group of, let's just say trolls, to put it nicely, a circus act that mostly exists on TikTok, but a little bit on Instagram, they get very jealous that we're having this success at Turning Point USA.
So they decide to launch their own counter to literally follow me around the country and stalk me as a way to try to troll and disrupt the event.
They call themselves the Un-F-America Tour.
It is run by two young trolls by the name of Dean and Parker.
If you don't know who they are, you are living a much greater life than I am because they're rather unenjoyable people.
And so I debated them both on Jubilee.
Anyway, so...
They show up to Texas A&M.
They get really upset because I didn't immediately call them up on stage even though I invited them.
I debated some of their other internet trolls.
Completely went viral.
Made them look terrible and bad.
But here's the fun story.
Why is this worthy of our time?
Well, because their entire operation is now collapsed.
Look how big of a crowd they drew in contrast to ours.
And it's collapsed because of wokeism and DEI.
And this is what's so important, everybody.
So they put together kind of this pseudo-super PAC that is now basically dissolved.
They're all infighting.
Why?
Well, because their organizer was racist using microaggressions.
Mr. Older Millennial, fill in the gaps here and talk as if people in the audience have no idea of the baseline facts here, and let's walk through this.
So you had it right, right off the bat, is that they basically just decided they were going to follow you around.
And basically try to ape off your success.
And the entire event was just poorly planned from the beginning because, one, they didn't reserve anything.
They didn't set it up.
And they brought 52 creators for a four-hour talk just wasting money like that.
But they showed up, and obviously they got very upset that they didn't get to move to the front of the line.
They were reminded very quickly of their...
Lack of importance to most people in the world.
And they went and set up on the far side of campus where, funnily enough, the sprinklers went off and they had to pay to get them shut off, which is beyond hilarious.
And they had their little event.
And what happened is, before the event happened, there had been some accusations of microaggressions against the creators of color.
And so whether it was the minority creators said that they were microaggressed because they weren't given extra security, which is what they felt they needed when they went to Texas, and they weren't given enough say, there was no minorities as headliners, and that's what they accused.
They accused her deeply of racism.
The bigger creators, Dean and Parker, they just ignored that it was happening so they could have their event, and it's currently...
All coming crashing down around them.
And add to that the fact they managed to spend their entire $115,000 on a single event.
So the entire thing is falling apart for them.
And I hope everyone understands.
So this was supposed to be the big DNC's counter to Turning Point USA.
Turning Point is succeeding.
We are drawing huge crowds.
We're moving young people substantially.
We are the premier outreach organization that is doing this.
It's not a Charlie Kirk thing.
It's top to bottom.
Our team deserves the credit.
It is a mass movement.
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What is collapsing them?
Because I get asked the question all the time, well, Charlie, what is DEI in practice?
Everybody, their organization is now collapsing because some organizer by the name of Z, a Bernie Sanders former staffer, microaggressed the black women.
By saying what?
She said, well, this was really disorganized and you people have to do better.
I kid you not, they are now in a civil war that is in front of millions of people.
Because they can't run a simple operation.
They are a victim of their own ideology.
And is this not a great example of how wokeism can never build anything?
About how when you live under DEI, you immediately collapse.
And these people's feed, literally on TikTok, which is being seen by millions of people, is legit.
Only on F America infighting.
A complete implosion for one week.
I thought that, to my credit, I said to the team, I said, guys, this is not going to last because wokeism cannot run anything.
You cannot run a church.
You cannot run a company.
This principle, you cannot run anything.
And my team is in the chat saying that we called it.
And their influencer page has been taken down.
Is this not a great example of a bunch of left-wing young influencers trying to win young people, talking about how great woke is, and then woke destroys their own operation?
Well, that's the beauty of it, is that you have...
I mean, I made a TikTok about it where I said that if you get together so many people that are focused on being victims, that that is the basis of their content, and you get them all together, they're going to have a victim Olympics.
They're going to see who can be the biggest victim.
And turns out, they're really good at it.
They are experts in it.
So now...
I want to play this piece of tape here.
So if you don't know Parker, again, congratulations.
You're about to meet him.
This guy interrupts you every three seconds.
He has such a sense of entitlement.
However, I have finally found a way to get Parker to not interrupt you.
Have a crazy black woman talk about microaggressions for a minute straight, and that shuts up Parker.
Look at this beta guy who's the leader of the insurgency.
Sit down and shut up because a black woman is talking.
Mind you, he interrupts you all the time as if he's, you know, on lithium or something.
Playcut 372.
Z came in alive full of a bunch of black women, and the first thing she did when she came on there was to say, I know you guys aren't educated on, like, clearly they're speaking about politics.
They know what they're talking about.
So what makes you feel like they don't, like, for you to say they aren't educated, one, that was the phrase microaggression.
Two, She was very hard on seeing you people.
And whenever somebody says you people, it's just, you just know where it's coming from.
Like, you just know as if, like, they were being aggressive.
And then she started bringing up BIPOC people that were part of the tour.
And then she said behind the scenes.
Like, they're not the face of the tour.
They're just working behind the scenes like some workmen.
What did we just listen to?
I mean, this is the Democrat Party.
This is Parker being silent, getting dressed down in front of thousands of people saying, these are microaggressions and we win the oppression Olympics.
And the worst part is, it's wild because I'm used to seeing them take what we say out of context.
I'm used to seeing them take what you say out of context.
And it's fun to watch them do it to each other because what she just said, Z said.
Z didn't say.
Like, I will never defend that woman.
I hope her entire pact fails.
I hope their entire movement fails.
But she didn't say that.
What she did was she came on and told them, hey, many of you may not be experienced in organizing.
And that's all she said.
And this is honestly the first time I've ever seen the you people thing actually enforced in, like, real life of somebody hearing you people and being...
I guess microaggressed.
I don't know how many microaggressions it takes to equal an actual aggression.
But it is fun to watch.
They're taking their own people out of context and doing it in a public forum, which is beyond insanity for their movement.
And now, Dean and Parker, they have to issue these apologies.
Talk about the apology tour.
Talk about how now they have to grovel to their audiences saying...
Well, I just want to say I'm sorry because I knew that she was racist.
She wasn't racist, for the record.
There's nothing she did that was racist.
Like, she literally was just like, okay, you guys aren't that, you know, experienced in organizing.
And these left-wing content influencers are now creating this mob.
This is the woke mob that we stopped in November.
Everybody, Donald Trump stopped this, this, like, herd of narcissists from taking over the United States government.
I want to play this right now.
Also, they're questioning where is the money going?
Playcut 381.
So you're telling me that the $100,000 that was actually raised by our communities is all gone and you used it on the event at Texas A&M.
Over $100,000.
She was like, "Yep."
At that point, I was completely done.
But some smart Black women jumped in.
Erica jumped in and said, hey, Z, we need receipts.
Now, we have one minute remaining.
Just to be clear, that was the entire operating budget of Turning Point USA for the first year, $100,000.
Where did all this money go?
They have $100,000 for a campus stop for some makeshift operation with not even a microphone that works and sprinklers that are on them?
What's going on here?
Well, the wildest part is, you look at it, they flew in 52 creators from all over the country.
They rented each of them a car.
They didn't provide transportation.
They just rented them cars.
They put them up in hotel rooms for extended periods of time, even though they were only there to talk for four hours.
What I can hope is that this is emblematic of Democrat organizing.
Yes, it is.
Because, I mean, this is why Kamala Harris had $2 billion and somehow managed to outspend that.
Great point.
There is this kind of...
Oh, we're losing young people because of Charlie, and they're obsessed with me.
Is that fair to say?
It is a pathological obsession, of which, fine, get in line.
You are living rent-free in their heads, and it's very obvious.
They do not care about stopping Donald Trump, J.D. Vance, or Elon Musk.
Their life is about stopping Charlie Kirk.
Literally, it's on their website.
Taking the fight to Charlie Kirk.
Not taking the fight to Donald Trump.
Taking the fight to me.
Fine.
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I got to ask you, older millennial, you have a lot of success on TikTok.
The liberals are increasingly not as viral on TikTok or dominant as they used to be.
Can you comment on that?
Well, I honestly think, like, right now we're seeing the fact that TikTok does push liberals.
It's coming back to bite them right now because we're watching their...
What is equivalent to, you know, a divorce proceeding or a couple's counseling on TikTok between them.
But, yeah, I mean, the benefit of the conservative community is that everybody knows that what we're talking about is what we actually want to talk about.
When it comes to liberals, we have so much evidence of them being paid and being told what to say, but they know that when they talk to us, they know it's genuine because we couldn't get a dime out of the RNC if we tried.
So, you know, they know they're getting the genuine thing from us.
We're only allowed to grow so far before we get taken down.
And that's why I'm super excited about the possibility of somebody new owning TikTok.
Like Reid's proposal makes me very excited for the future.
Yeah, we need to get that sorted out for sure.
Why do you think young people are gravitating to the right so much and are becoming more and more conservative?
Well, there's that old adage that says, you know, if you're not a liberal in your 20s, you don't have a heart.
But if you're not a conservative in your 30s, you don't have a brain.
The thing is that now, reality is coming to these people a lot sooner.
So, reality is hitting people a lot younger, so they need to recognize the reality of the world.
And liberal ideology doesn't do that.
It acts like everything's going to be okay, and you can make everything good with flowery terms.
We're conservatives.
We recognize, oh, it's going to take work.
And I think a lot of people are coming to that decision sooner than they have in the past.
What do you see in your audience as to why young men especially are gravitating towards the conservative movement and how Democrats are going to try to adapt or going to try to catch up?
Well, the other side says we're evil.
I mean, young men are being told that they're evil, that being masculine is bad, that being assertive is bad, and that they're just bad people by dint of being a white young male.
And when you get enough hatred from the other side, you're going to walk away from it.
And there's really nothing that the left can do to recover it because they don't have...
Uh, examples of masculinity.
They don't have anything that a man can aspire to on their side.
They have examples of young, whiny people who...
Hold on.
They can aspire to this.
I gotta interrupt you.
This is the type of man that they can aspire to.
Playcut 384.
Uh-oh.
So, my first order of business is apologizing to the individuals that are watching this stream, that are a member of the BIPOC community, for not speaking out about this sooner.
But I think one really big mistake I've made, one really bad thing I've done...
Something I need to hold myself accountable for was not calling this out before we went boots on the ground in Texas.
My internal justification was that, well, I have fans across the country that have already bought their plane tickets to go to Texas, and they're going to be there, and I want to make sure that I'm there for them.
And in retrospect, I recognize that I did not handle the situation correctly, Final thoughts, one minute remaining.
That is their alpha male apologizing for racism that doesn't even exist.
That's what they're delivering to the American people.
No, and that's the sad part, is that is the example of what a liberal man looks like these days.
And the sad thing is that if that's what you're aspiring to be, you're not going to inspire anyone.
And that is well said.
Thank you so much, my friend.
Talk to you soon.
Hope to see you at one of our events upcoming.
Thank you.
Absolutely.
I'll be there.
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They have that.
We have Joe Rogan.
We have Dana White.
We have Theo Vaughn.
I mean, just a little bit different than the left-wing influencer.
