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Okay, everybody, we have a real special guest for you today.
It's a product I've known about for a while that is no joke, changing the world, and can really help you.
It is Brian Gans from Burna.
It is all about living safe, and this product is remarkable.
I mean, we just went through it.
It's something else.
Tell us your story, Brian.
Well, did you have fun shooting it, Charlie?
I did, and it's not a gun, correct?
It is not a gun.
It looks like a gun.
You know, we used to have these signs all over the office, don't call it a gun, but we've given up on that.
We just call it a non-lethal gun.
Got it.
Okay, so it's not a firearm.
It's not a firearm.
So I'm going to just show it to the audience here.
So this looks like a gun, seems like a gun, but what is this?
Okay, so this is a CO2-fired launcher, and launcher is a term that non-lethal guns use, and it uses CO2 to fire rounds, either like a hard polymer round, And so it's not lethal.
So let's just say you're living at home alone, right?
You're always worried about personal safety.
You have a real firearm.
In the back of your mind, you're like, boy, I don't know if I actually ever want to be responsible for killing somebody.
God forbid.
I mean, that gun is there if someone comes after in that kind of force.
So talk about the genesis of this remarkable process.
So Charlie, I've been a gun owner my entire life.
But I often wondered how quick I'd be to pull the trigger.
And I had an experience a little over a decade ago where I was involved in a road rage incident.
You know, I was admittedly driving kind of like a jerk, but somebody really took offense and they got right on my bumper.
I sped up, they sped up, I slowed down, they slowed down, and I really got scared.
I pulled over to the side of the road thinking they'd go around me.
But they didn't.
The guy pulls in right behind me, gets out of his car.
Now, I have my Glock 19, my 9mm, in my glove box, and I'm thinking, do I get out with my gun?
I could see in the side view mirror that he was running up.
He had nothing in his hand.
So I said, you know what?
I'm going to get out without my gun.
Nothing good can happen from getting out without my gun.
But honestly, it was a mistake.
This guy was bigger, younger, stronger, angrier.
He bum-rushed me, threw me to the ground.
Fortunately, what he really hurt was my pride, but it taught me that unless I was willing to take a life, the gun wasn't my only option.
And I really wanted to create something where I could have stopped him.
I could have held him at bay.
I could have called the police because the gun wasn't enough.
And so then you got into this space, which is remarkable, which it will prevent the person from doing the thing that they might want to do or steal the thing they might want to steal.
But it will not kill them.
It is non-lethal.
It is non-lethal.
We've sold over 500,000 launchers at this point.
We've had over 4,000 documented cases of being used.
More than 1,200 law enforcement cases of being used.
And in all of those instances, not a single life was lost or taken.
And honestly...
Nobody was even hospitalized.
So you get hit with this.
It really hurts.
So walk through that.
It's not a bullet.
It's not a paintball.
I just shot it out in the parking lot.
It moves fast.
But it doesn't penetrate your skin.
No, there's a lot of energy.
And if you, you know, I load my Burna so that the first two rounds out of it are hard polymer rounds.
This is a military-grade polymer.
And, you know, the technical term is it hurts like hell.
I've been shot with this, and you can see videos of me online jumping up and down, screaming a few choice curse words, because it really hurts.
But if somebody, you know, kept coming...
And you fire the chemical irritant round.
When it hits them, it explodes.
And all of a sudden, you're covered in tear gas and pepper, and your skin is on fire.
You're in respiratory distress.
You drop whatever you're holding.
You grab your eyes because they're very, very painful.
We call it temporary blindness.
But I don't care how tough you are.
If you can't see, if you're in respiratory distress, you're not going forward with the attack.
So, this thing has been taking the country by storm.
You've sold over half a million.
We have.
Is that right?
People can check it out at Burna.com.
We're going to be working a lot together.
I think our whole audience should have these, especially young people on college campuses.
But what if you have someone that says, this sounds all great, Brian, but I live in an anti-gun state, and I'm not allowed to own this thing.
Are they?
Well, they are.
I live in an anti-gun state.
I live in Massachusetts.
You live in the anti-gun state.
Well, let's say they live in Hawaii, which is notoriously anti-gun.
Is this legal in Hawaii?
It is, and we actually have done an amazing business in Hawaii, and we had an interesting situation.
There was a singer, a folk singer in Hawaii, who came in.
We set up a store in Hawaii, Burna Live Safe, Live Safe Hawaii, and this woman bought a Burna.
This was probably two years ago now.
And a few months later, somebody broke into her house.
And her husband took the Burna.
He hit the assailant, incapacitated the assailant, and held him at bay until the police came and arrested him.
I love it.
And the next day, when it made the news, we sold over $100,000 of Burnas at the Burna Live Safe store.
And talk about some more of the testimonials.
Yeah, it's, you know, we've stopped car invasions, carjackings, home invasions, muggings.
Again, there have been over 4,000 documented cases.
And if you go onto our website, which is BurnaBYRNA.com, there's a whole section of videos that people have made talking about, you know, the Burna saving their lives.
You know, when I started this, Charlie, I really wanted to have kind of a double bottom line.
A company that would do well by doing good, which is exactly what we've done.
Now, the interesting thing is our support has really come from the conservative side of the aisle.
When we first developed this, we really thought it would be the progressives.
This is a non-lethal gun.
It's not going to injure anybody, not going to take a life.
But they seem to be uninterested.
Where we found most of the demand is among gun owners.
You know, we signed a partnership with the USCCA, United States Concealed Carry Association.
And they asked me, what percentage of your customers are gun owners?
And I kind of jokingly said, you know, two-thirds are gun owners and one-third wish they were.
But it was a joke because...
The one-third that are not gun owners are people that have small kids at home and they don't want to have a firearm in the house.
Or their wife has said to them, if you bring a gun home, I'm leaving you.
But they want a way to protect themselves.
So I look at America, we're really split into two groups.
We're split into those people that if they're attacked, they're going to, here's my wallet, here's my keys, here's my wife.
Here's my kid.
Here's my kid.
And those people that are going to stand up for themselves.
It's just unbelievable to me.
So we have the product right here.
Show the audience.
We're a video medium as well as podcasting, so narrate it, please, as you're doing it.
So this is the Burna LE launcher.
It is a CO2-fired launcher.
The CO2 goes in the front of the launcher.
On the magazine, and there's a normal magazine release, there's a little CO2...
Hex key.
And I can put it in here.
And I can unscrew the CO2.
And then once I unscrew the CO2 cap, I can put a CO2 in there.
Screw it back in.
It now has propulsion.
I can load my magazine.
There's an ambidextrous safety.
And it is ready to fire.
And the thing that's interesting about this...
Don't fire at me.
Don't even point it at you.
I treat it like it's a loaded gun at all times.
And you should.
We give gun safety training to all of the people.
I don't know if you saw that earlier, but I was very careful about that.
Treat every gun like it's loaded.
And look, although it's a non-lethal weapon, it is a weapon.
And it will hurt.
It will ruin your day.
The thing that's interesting is...
We live in the society, Charlie, where there's this, you know, half the country is being infected by this woke mind virus where they are not fighting back.
My son is an assistant manager at Dick's up in Massachusetts.
And he's telling me that there are people that come in and they're shoplifting.
And I said, you know, Jason, what do you do?
And he said, we don't do anything.
I mean, I think they practically like hold the door for them and wish them a good day.
On the other hand, we just signed a partnership with Sportsman's Warehouse where they're going to have their sales associates wear a burner.
Now, you try to steal something from Sportsman's Warehouse, it is going to be a very bad day for you.
That's right.
Because getting hit with this is really extremely painful.
Unpleasant. Very unpleasant.
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Who's your typical customer?
Our typical customer, again, is two-thirds are male, two-thirds are gun owners.
They tend to skew a little bit older.
I would say probably our primary audience is in the 35 to 55 age group.
But we're starting to see this expand specifically more and more to women.
I think that, you know, as people are feeling afraid, and as this becomes more normalized, we're seeing a lot more people gravitate to the burner.
So this is what you load them with?
What are these?
These are kinetic projectiles.
That's a fun term.
That'll keep the ATF away from you.
So this basically is like a little hard marble and essentially works with what the police refer to as pain compliance.
It hurts.
And again, I think that for most people, that is all you need.
Now, this gun is legal in all 50 states.
There is no waiting period.
There's no background check.
There's no permits required.
Is there age restrictions?
There's an age restriction on our part.
So we won't sell it to anybody under 18. I think that's responsible.
Well, look, this is not a toy.
We also have certain products that we won't sell to civilians.
So we have a rifle that is fully automatic.
It will shoot.
But it is a burner.
But it is a burner.
Okay. And we don't want somebody lighting up the mall, you know, with 15 rounds a second.
Correct. And you don't really need that.
Most of our customers are buying pistols.
The range on the pistol is 60 feet.
But honestly, Charlie, beyond 60 feet, it's not self-defense.
You're a predator.
So, you know, this is something where you could protect yourself, you know, up to 60 feet versus pepper spray, which is kind of a close-quarter combat weapon.
Yeah, and so can I just have the weapon?
So the other positive is that if someone sees this, they might think it's an actual firearm, correct?
Correct. And we make it, obviously, in less lethal orange.
And the police will buy it only in less lethal orange.
But we also make it in black and tan.
We run special promotions with pink and green.
They just loaded it up.
So yeah, keep going now.
That's great.
But you know what?
It's interesting.
As I started to tell you, I was a single dad of three daughters.
They all thought I was a Neanderthal for owning guns.
Belonging to the NRA.
Never wanted anything to do with guns.
But my youngest daughter, who's a doctor now, was in medical school at the time we developed this.
And she would get out of the hospital late at night, bad parts of Boston, really scared to death.
So I gave her a burna.
I put a crimson trace laser on the front of it.
And I said, when you're walking back to your car, have your purse in front of you.
Have your hand on the burna.
If somebody is following you, turn around.
Put on the laser.
Put the red dot on their chest.
If they mean you no harm, they're going to turn on their heels.
They're going to apologize.
And frankly, you should apologize because they probably just crapped their pants when they saw the red dot on their chest.
This gave her...
A sense of...
Confidence? Confidence.
The ability to not be afraid.
And as we all know, being afraid is the worst thing in life.
And frankly, it was something that she could use.
I have a house on Cape Cod.
We practice in the backyard.
This is legal in Cape Cod.
Oh, yeah.
Because I don't think AR-15s are...
Abundant in Cape Cod.
No. Look, in Massachusetts lately, there's been just craziness by the state.
You can't buy a rifle.
But that goes to show for our Blue State friends, if you're in New York, if you are in New York City, it's its own problem, right?
But if you are in New York State, if you're in California, if you're in Washington, this is something you should get.
Illinois. California is our biggest sales state.
And Illinois?
I believe it.
is LA and our second biggest city is Chicago.
So where it is difficult to get a gun-We have a huge listenership in both those markets.
Where it's difficult to get a gun, you can get a Berna and you can protect yourself.
It's B-Y-R-N-A, correct?
Yes. It's Brian Reorganized.
So B-Y-R-N-A.
What else about the product do you want our audience to be aware of?
In the beginning, we had a lot of people accuse us of being the vegan gun company.
That is the farthest thing from the truth.
I am a gun owner.
I have multiple guns.
All of the C-suite at Berna are gun owners.
We just want people to have something further down on the continuum of force, Charlie.
So, you know, as a law enforcement officer, you know, you have everything from voice command, you know, down on the ground, hands behind your head, to baton, to pepper spray, all the way up to your sidearm.
But for most civilians, they have, you know, their gun.
This gives them an option other than their gun.
And today, I carry my Berna in the side pocket of my car, and I carry my firearm in the glove box.
So that if I'm confronted with somebody with a firearm, I'll respond with a firearm.
But I am not going to shoot an unarmed person.
And particularly in Massachusetts, I'm not going to shoot an unarmed person.
And I think people need to recognize that even if they're gun owners, or especially if they're gun owners, This gives them an option to start with a lower level of force.
And honestly, I'm an attorney by training.
I hate admitting that.
But you know what?
If somebody breaks into your house and you start with less lethal force and you are forced to transition to lethal force, there's too many of them or they're hopped up on drugs.
You just can't stop them.
I would love that case.
That's a case where you say, ladies and gentlemen of the jury, my client started with less lethal force.
He researched less lethal force.
He trained with less lethal force.
But there were just too many of them, and he had to transition to lethal force.
There's not a jury in America that would convict you.
But you shoot some unarmed person coming in your house, even in a red state, you're going to be in court defending yourself.
That's right.
So it's Berna.com.
And again, I just want to say, this thing hurts.
This is not patty cake, right?
And so for those of you worried, oh, I don't know if it will deter, if someone is trying to break into your home and you get three or four shots on them in this thing, there's almost no likelihood they're going to be continuing, right?
No, you know, we do a lot of human effects testing, and we pay people to get hit.
Yeah, talk about this.
Yeah, so look, I mean, we have, the two big questions we get is, one, does it work?
Yes, I just used it.
It works.
And it's fast.
And I always say to people, you need to shoot it, or better yet, if you want to, I could shoot you with it.
No, thank you.
But does it work is the most important question, and I think we've gotten over that hurdle.
Interestingly, the next biggest question is, what if I pull it out and the police mistake it for a gun?
Well, that's social Darwinism.
If the police are there, don't pull it out.
If you pull out your Glock, they're going to shoot you.
This is for when the police are not there.
It is a very effective deterrent.
Charlie, as I said, I think ideal for your listeners.
I think this is something that your listeners would appreciate.
I agree.
It's Burna.com, B-Y-R-N-A.com.
I love it.
We're excited to work together.
And also, Made in America, it's getting in that direction, right?
Yeah. Look, when we first started, our factory was in South Africa.
We've moved it to the U.S. We've made a...
We love that.
We've made a statement that by the end of 2025, this gun will be...
Produced entirely in America.
Our factory is in Fort Wayne, Indiana.
We just moved all of our ammo production from South Africa to the United States.
And we are committed to being made in America.
And it's not just patriotic.
Frankly, it's good business.
With what's going on in the world, with the supply chain disruption, with people stopping shipments.
Being made in America ensures reliability of supply.
It's a great product, everybody.
We're going to be working together very closely.
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Don't worry, it's not pointed at him.
I know it looks like that on camera.
It's not.
But I'll put it up.
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It is non-lethal.
And by the way, you should buy one for every one of your daughters, your granddaughters.
Just having one around the house can give you an extra peace of mind.
And they're affordable.
Correct? Yeah.
Our base launcher is $379.
That's totally affordable.
This is the law enforcement version, but we also sell to consumers, and that's $479.
But, you know, what is the price that you're willing to pay to protect yourself and your family?
Yeah, it's no question.
Thank you so much.
Charlie, thank you very much.
Absolutely. Great to spend time with you.
Stay safe, everybody, or as I should say, live safe.
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Andrew, welcome back to America.
Oh, thank you.
I love America.
Land of the free, home of the brave.
I always get to come here, get three months of freedom before I go back to the socialist state of Australia.
Thank you, guys.
Thank you.
So for pastors that are here that they sometimes will hear from their congregation, don't talk about politics, don't talk about politics.
Are you able to speak freely the gospel in Australia?
Because of politics.
Yes and no.
I'm only able to do it at the moment because I'm brown.
So every time the anti-terrorism police, we literally had the anti-terrorism police come to our church at least three times for a sermon.
For a sermon.
So the reality of oppression to the gospel...
Is real.
Is real.
And we're seeing that in Australia.
Like, we're still doing the math at the church of what will happen to us across the next few years as this anti-freedom of speech spirit is rising.
So the truth is, if you continue to be quiet, you will eventually be forced to be quiet.
In Australia, can you give a sermon that says homosexuality is a sin?
Me, at the moment, yes.
But we do have these ambiguous laws in place where you can and you can't.
So at the moment, we have the anti-gay conversion therapy laws.
So I'm allowed to speak about it from the pulpit but the moment I get out of the pulpit to the lobby if I pray for a gay person I can go to jail potentially for three to five years and our church
can get fined $100,000.
So the only thing protected at the moment is the pulpit.
For how long?
And if they went after the prayer, what makes you think they're not going to go after the preaching?
And everyone understand, when people say don't get involved in politics, that's a political decision there in Australia.
The failure to get involved in politics is politics will eventually get involved with you and come to your church.
Well, not being political about being not political is political.
It's like political deception.
Not being political is political, no matter how not political you are.
And this is a very controversial...
Statement Charlie, but I always say in Australia, most of Australians, most of churches in Australia are communist accidentally.
And the reason I say that, the goal of communism was to get Christianity out of the public square and was to get the church out of politics.
Karl Marx literally said, my goal is to kick God out and destroy capitalism.
When pastors participate, The only philosophical worldview that doesn't want church in politics is communism.
And so that's a heavy truth for some pastors to hear because they say, but I only do the gospel.
I don't touch politics.
How would you respond to an American pastor that would say that?
I'm not really sure where it's in the Bible.
Like Joseph was a politician.
Joshua was a politician.
Elijah spoke to politicians.
Elisha spoke to politicians.
Daniel, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego were politicians.
Solomon, David were politicians.
I'm not really sure, to be honest, what Bible are they reading.
Because it's definitely not the same Bible we are reading, right?
I'm not really sure because I have studied so much.
I'm trying to figure out who brought this lie into the church.
And the only person I see is actually Karl Marx.
Who was a Luciferian, for the record.
That's a whole separate topic.
But it's a dominant point of view, and that's why Jensen Franklin and this church deserve such credit for hosting an event like this, because the majority of American churches stayed silent during this last election.
They refused to speak out.
Or even celebrate the reversal of Roe versus Wade.
And we need to look at our friends in the Anglosphere in Australia as a cautionary tale, everybody.
Now, you are far more secular in Australia than we are in America, right?
We are only 10 points away from you guys.
Like, I was telling you that we're praying over planting a church in America.
And we're doing the statistical reality.
And the scary reality of America, I don't think you got that far ahead.
Like, I was just comparing apples to apples statistically, Florida to Sydney, and the points of difference in religion is only 10% off from no religion, secularism, atheism, Islam.
So, just four more years of Comrade Kamala and open borders have the power to change this country fundamentally forever.
In Australia, in the last two years, we had two million immigrants.
2 million.
3,000 of them are from Gaza.
I saw your tweet this morning about the whole Gaza.
What the heck is going on?
So the truth is, one more term of the godless Democrats will change this nation fundamentally.
And you guys escaped socialism by a very thin margin last election.
Well, I think it was by about...
A half of an inch, if you ask me.
As George Washington said, the providence of God.
You could see last election, the providence of God was all over this country.
I'm a big believer that America is a very exceptional country.
And that's coming from someone who lived in the Middle East where we could never speak the truth.
And that is also coming from someone who's living in socialist Australia at the moment where we don't have freedom of speech codified.
And we saw during COVID in a moment and a second, Christianity became illegal for two years.
And there's so many takeaways here, everybody.
This is a warning sign.
The other thing I want to emphasize, Andrew, and you are very open to speak about this, is the rise of Islam in the West.
Islam is taking over all of Europe.
And to be honest, and this is one thing I hope the American church is ready, you are going to lose more and more of young men, especially black young men, to Islam, if you don't understand how...
You can call it a religion, whatever you want, is so predatory towards communities because it is the inverse of hyper-feminine...
Yes, but it's also even worse than that.
It's the exact opposite of hyper-feminized Western culture because it comes across as a hyper-masculine, patriarchal approach.
This is very important because the writing is on the wall.
Apart from Donald Trump, Charlie Kirk, Elon being the most Google people, you have Andrew Tate, who happened to become a Muslim, and unlike most people, I'm a bit...
Can I ask, how many of you guys know who that is?
Okay, about half.
Thank God.
I wish every hand would go up.
The fact that not every hand went up is...
The amount of pastors, I'm like, do you know Andrew Tate?
They're like, I don't know Andrew Tate.
I'm like, then all the men in your church are about to leave your church.
That's why young men don't want to go to your church.
It is so feminized.
It's crazy.
It's crazy.
The age of nice gospel is finished.
People like Andrew Tate are the product of hyper-feminized men who lived in the era of prosperous and wealthy America who in the midst of building, particularly pastors, they know how to build but they don't know how to fight.
And men by nature are very aggressive.
It's kind of cool.
You protect women with it.
So the problem we have at the moment is that you will see the rise of Islam personified in people like Andrew Tate simply because men go to church and they're over the lovey-dovey gospel.
They're really over it.
They're over this hyper-feminist, feminized, weak, woke, womanized gospel.
It's the number one piece of feedback I hear of why young men are joining the Catholic Church or becoming Muslim.
They say it's way too feminine.
And I agree.
I think the American church has become way too feminine.
I planted a church because the church I went to, the biggest church in Australia, I'm not going to say any names, was so feminized that men were leaving.
By the multitudes every year.
And guess where they're going?
They're going to the mosque.
They're going to the mosque, but they're telling them, you can actually act like a man, be a man, and we're not going to say toxic masculinity.
We're going to teach you how to fight, not just how to love.
We're going to teach you how to speak the truth, not just be empathetic.
We're going to teach you how to speak and not make silent a virtue because we talk a lot about work Jesus.
What about silent Jesus?
We have a lot of churches that have created the silent gospel and men are over this feminist, feminazi gospel.
But this is a very important point, because Islam will be spread by two ways.
through the importation of Muslims into your country or the spread of lower-income, predominantly minority men.
White men don't tend to gravitate towards Islam as much, but in the black community, we saw the flirtation with radical Islam in the 1960s and early 70s with Kareem Abdul-Jabbar and Cassius Clay, who became Muhammad Ali, and then it
was Lew Alcindor who then became Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, and then, of course, Malcolm X. That has plateaued, but I think we're going to see a resurgence.
Would you agree with that?
In Europe, we see this happening right now.
That lower-income minority men are joining mosques way more predominantly.
Churches are nothing more than museums and husks of their former selves.
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Communists and Muslims, they love each other a lot.
Muhammad and Karl Marx, they're kind of besties when you look at their worldview.
So both socialist comrades like Kamala and Islam, they both happen to be obsessed with power.
And that what unites communists and Muslims, I call it the green and red alliance, the watermelon alliance, watermelon alliance, quiz for Palestine, is that both of them are anti-freedom and pro-tyranny.
So the left love Islam and they will import Islam and we see that in Australia.
The left-wing party in Australia and in London, you just saw a few days ago, one of the major people in the Department of Education in London, he's literally an imam and a mufti.
So he's literally an Islamic scholar and an imam who preaches.
So you will see Islam...
Make its way into the left-wing politics and that's one of the reasons the borders were open the last four years.
It was intentional about changing the character of this nation fundamentally.
The way to destroy America will be Islam and this is very obvious in UK because guess what?
Let's look at it.
Half of Americans are left, half of Americans are right, give or take.
The only way for...
I think everyone knows that Before
he was about to crash into the World Trade Center, he literally said, victory to Allah, death to America, Allahu Akbar.
9-11 was religiously motivated, right?
So how come America have forgotten that very, very big event and importing the same people?
I'll give you the answer.
The answer is because we as Christians have had empathy weaponized by the left and have our own Christ-like inclinations then used against us in a suicidal way because we're being taken advantage of.
That's exactly what is happening.
And the church is to blame for this.
It says to be...
Wise as a serpent and gentle as a dove.
And nowhere in the scriptures does it say to go import a bunch of people that hate you and want you dead and take you as slaves and to bring them into your country.
In fact, I would have to just say the church has been a large failure here.
I think we're seeing this.
By the way, the October 7th protest against all the Jews on campuses that you guys saw, we made that happen through our loose immigration policies.
Now, we're not as far gone as Europe.
Europe is completely lost.
I mean, the United Kingdom will be a Muslim-majority country in the next 20 years.
1000%. London already is.
While Christians are aborting their babies, killing their babies, making their kids gay and homosexual, and then...
Getting the rest of the young people who happen to escape abortion.
They trans themselves and butcher their body parts.
Islam is spreading like a virus.
This is the reality.
The area I live in, Christianity went down in the last few years by 3% and Islam went up by 6%.
So right now the difference in population is 9% and it's growing exponentially.
Have you been to London's town recently?
Has anyone seen what we're talking about in Europe?
If you go to Europe, it is unrecognizable, everybody.
And these used to be vibrant Christian epicenters on the planet that are conquered.
And can you talk a little bit?
Because you grew up in the middle.
You grew up in Egypt, right?
As a Coptic Christian.
It's very, very crazy.
So I happened to live the first 16 years of my life.
In the Islamic state of Egypt.
Again, Egypt is like moderate Muslim.
So whatever I'm about to tell you, it's just moderate Islam.
And then at the moment, I'm living the second half of my life somehow in the socialist, godless, secular state of Australia.
So I have that weird mix of half socialism, half Islam, which is very weird.
But we grew up, Egypt used to be...
90% Christian, from 300 to 600 AD.
If you did your math, we had one of the greatest theologians ever, from Augustine, he came to Egypt a lot of times, and we had Father Athanasius, who was the writer of the Nicene Creed.
So Egypt went in the last 1400 years from 90% Christian, now we're up to 10% Christian.
So the writing is on the wall to the point where the minority Christians like my family, for preaching the gospel, we had to escape for our life as refugees because...
Muslims, Muslim Brotherhood, which is the Hamas, ISIS of Egypt, and the government wanted to kill us and put my dad in jail.
So I'm here from the future to warn America, Islam is not a friend of America, and the future is not going to look very bright if pastors don't courageously and clearly speak the truth of the Bible.
And the sad reality, Charlie, is how most Christians do not support Israel anymore.
It used to be a very common sense that Protestants, particularly, would support Israel.
The last 10 years, I read a stat yesterday, 50% of conservatives do not support Israel.
And I would blame the church for that because...
We don't speak about abortion.
We don't speak about the gay agenda.
We don't speak about immigration.
And the next thing on the line at the moment, somehow, supporting Israel, Jesus was not a Palestinian, somehow that's kind of controversial at the moment, which is crazy.
And let me ask you a more broad philosophical question.
Can the West and Islam coexist?
No, because we serve two different gods.
We serve Yahweh, the one true God of the Bible.
They serve Allah.
Who's a violent, demonic God.
And every time I speak this, you have to understand, I'm putting my life in danger.
We can't have guns in Australia.
And when you call the police, they come one hour after.
So my life is already at danger for simply saying this.
I get death threats.
We have to move our home to a more private place for me daring to speak against the violent, demonic God.
God of Allah.
In Islam, killing is circumstantial.
You can kill the infidel.
What is the infidel?
The infidel happens to be any person that's not a Muslim.
So the Jews, infidel.
Gays, infidel.
Christians, infidel.
Communists, infidel.
Every single person falls in that category of infidel.
and what you saw on October 7th and what you saw on 9-11, that is the norm of Islam if they actually apply it.
They will tell you, but there are moderate Muslims.
Moderate Muslims.
What do you mean by moderate Muslims?
All Muslims support Hamas.
So even if they happen, they don't kill you.
They will silently support killing you.
And October 7th was a litmus test to Islam.
And what's going to happen when that happens?
See, the same people that were screaming,
Death to Israel.
On October 7th, I saw the same people scream death to America when 9-11 happened, when I happened to be in Egypt.
So we need to stop this lie that Islam that took over Egypt, took over Israel, and Israel took the nation back, that took over Syria, that took over Syria, that took over Algeria, that took over Lebanon, that took over Jordan, that took over Saudi Arabia, that took over Iran, that took over Afghanistan,
that took over India.
Somehow... I don't know what's statistically...
And now all of Europe.
This is horrific.
And Indonesia and most of Africa.
And Malaysia.
It is a religion of conquest.
Everyone needs to understand.
They are expansionists.
And if we as Christians don't be salt and light and expand our ranks, and if we are not defensive of what we are carrying, it's common.
It's common.
And the sad reality, this is exactly what happened to Egypt in 600.
When Islam took over, the Orthodox Coptic Church was very weak.
Their men were silent, weak and womanized.
That when Islam took over by the force, men were too weak to fight.
We got butchered and conquered and now I'm here.
This is a question.
If America is lost, where are people going to go?
This is a very, very important question.
So pastors, we need to stop playing politics with the Bible.
And I want to add to this, Charlie, I've got this in the main session.
We need to unite Catholics, Protestants, I don't know whatever denomination you're into, Methodists, to understand that the danger we face at the moment is neo-communism and Islam.
And we will either...
Defeat them once and for all, or they will eliminate Christianity.
The war is between Christianity and leftism mixed with Islam.
But I hope everyone understands the transition here, is that it goes from a Christian society to a secular one, then Islamic.
Because here's why.
The sequence is so simple, and it takes about 40 years to play out.
The Christian society starts to fall in love with material goods and no longer has children.
They want to continue to have a rich and abundant society.
So they need more people to go take the low wage jobs and to go, I don't know, diversity is our
strength their nation or whatever.
Which it doesn't mean anything.
It's a bunch of nonsense.
So then they start to import the third world.
When you import the third world, you get the third world.
Yep. And so what Europe did is they imported 25 million people from the Middle East.
Yep. From Syria and Iraq
And now, the most common baby name in London is what?
Most common baby name in Dublin is what?
The most common baby name in Copenhagen is?
If you don't know this, guys, and you're not preaching this to your congregation, you gotta lean in on this, guys.
It is a religion of conquest, and it is not a conspiracy theory.
It is a stated doctrine of the Hadith.
Literally. To take over new lands.
By the way, it's not the first time they've tried it.
The Ottoman Empire took over everything from Istanbul to Spain.
However, it is the first time that we've invited them.
It's the first time that we actually say, you know what, come on here and rape our women and populate our neighborhoods.
So while Christian pastors are letting their people abort their babies, the average Muslim in the West will have three to four babies.
While Christian pastors are not confronting the gay agenda and homosexuality, so instead of your people...
Getting married and having children, the Muslims are multiplying like rabbits.
While Christian pastors are not addressing the trans agenda, and the young people are cutting and butchering their body parts, the Muslims are multiplying.
And hey, Islam will be God's judgment if the church doesn't step up.
There does come a moment where Christians have to understand God will raise evil, demonic, totalitarian powers to punish Christendom for killing babies.
For allowing sexual perversion to become normal and for letting kids butcher their body parts and pastors saying it's political.
How are little kids butchering their body parts is political?
I'm not really sure.
That's wicked.
It is wicked.
And so, last question here, Andrew.
You've come from the Muslim world.
You're very uniquely qualified because you were raised in Islamic totalitarianism.
Moderate. What?
Moderate. So my example...
No, of course, but culturally you know the dynamics.
Institutional, yeah.
And you know the language, which is very important.
Which is very annoying for them, because I know what they're saying.
He speaks Arabic, he understands it.
But you're also living under secular totalitarianism.
What is one thing, one thing you pray that you want the church to do?
We have to be involved in the culture war.
The culture war is not cultural, it is biblical.
I don't care.
People always tell me, you're controversial, you're controversial.
I don't give a crap.
The question isn't, are you controversial?
The question is, are you biblical?
Cool.
We have to speak the truth to power, Christ the culture, and stop using the whole thing.
I don't want to offend people.
I am happy to offend people to protect my country.
I'm happy to offend people to see people get saved.
The gospel is not about not offending people.
Hey! I am from the future.
I warned Australia and the pastor think I'm a Donald Trump right-wing conspiracy theorist.
And hey, the Lord is bringing me here to give you a warning.
Turn back to God.
Turn back to the Bible.
Speak truth to power.
Stop playing politics.
God has given you President Trump, who is Cyrus the Great, who is Constantine the Great.
God is so gracious to give you a moment of revival and reformation top down.
If you study history, this is the grace of God to change this nation, and you would know this, Charlie, top down.
