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March 1, 2025 - The Charlie Kirk Show
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THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 75 — AI Singularity? National Security Gay-gency? Luigi the Loverboy

Charlie, Jack, Tyler, and Blake go through the big picture questions of a crazy week, including:   -Why are women sending love letters and photos to CEO killer Luigi Mangione? -Should transgender people be allowed to work for intelligence agencies?  -Will the AI Singularity kill us all?   Watch ad-free on members.charliekirk.com!  Get merch at charliekirkstore.com! Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Okay, everybody.
It is Thought Crime Thursday.
We have Tyler.
We have Blake.
We have Jack.
And we have lots of topics to discuss.
We are going to go through Luigi, which I seek to understand the phenomena.
And we also have NSG and AI Singularity.
That should keep us busy.
It's a good week.
That's a good trio.
Those three?
Oh, for sure.
I don't think we should push the boundaries beyond that.
So, NSGay, what's going on here?
Alrighty, so this is the latest big release from Chris Ruffo over at the Manhattan Institute.
There's some sort of whistleblower within the NSA, one of our big intelligence agencies.
They're the ones who handle signals intelligence, so they monitor the internet, they intercept phone calls.
They were supposed to do it abroad, but after 9-11, in the name of national security, they had to have...
Authority in the U.S. too.
But anyway, so they have an Intel agency kind of internal chat room that they get to use.
And it's supposed to only be for work reasons.
But of course, in the age of DEI, you can't have a thriving workplace unless you have your LGBT affinity room chat discussion area for employees.
And so someone just started leaking what they were saying in their affinity chat room.
And Rufo's been releasing it, so let's look at some of these.
It's really just far-ranging.
You have people talking the specifics about sex change surgeries they've ever undergone.
They talk about polyamory and what the definitions of it are.
They celebrate when people they don't like die, like Pat Robertson.
They spike the football about it.
And they talk about being hermaphrodites and how it's a good thing to be...
And they also talk about zapping their buttholes with lasers.
That's one of the lines they do.
You're ruining...
We're supposed to read them.
Okay, that's fair.
That's fair.
Now, so help me understand.
This is on government devices, government computers during work times.
This is taxpayer-funded.
And so these are trannies.
That are, like, discussing their private sex changes on these chats?
How did we learn about this?
The craziest part about the whole thing, Charlie, is that it's, like, they're enabled to, like, be pushed to the front of the line to talk about this.
They've created an environment where it's, like, this is where it's cultivated.
Yeah, it's, like, I think he has a quote in the article where they basically said that...
You know, being an affirming, like a DEI environment is not just mission critical, but like mission mandatory or something.
They have a very bizarre quote along those lines.
There's one, let me see if I can find this one.
Oh wow, this is a great one.
An intersex birth would be a great opportunity to raise a kid as non-binary and let them choose later.
Or not choose at all.
And none of these things mean that their gender wasn't a socially constructed identity.
Intersex is where, of course, they have male and female features.
So, I guess, can we all agree that people that are trans should not serve in the intel services?
So, that's where this gets crazy.
Or where it gets frightening, I should say.
Because this is the NSA. So these are people who are good with computers.
They're kind of like hacker types, basically, is who we're hiring here.
And the comorbidity between people who are into that, like being a top hacker, more or less, and being transgender, is disturbingly high.
So I'm inclined to agree with you, but...
It totally makes sense.
So the hacker trans world has a lot of overlap?
Yes, tons.
Especially at the top.
So you're exempt from this because you're chronically online and definitely not trans.
But the chronically online tend to be more autistic, more fringy, more willing to be captured by social contagions.
I think they have less antibodies against bad ideas.
Is that fair to say?
I think it's that, but I think it's not just bad ideas.
It's, I think...
It's not really studied because it's one of those things where it was all supernatural and they were born that way so we can't study it honestly.
What I think is it's probably if they're on the spectrum, as they say, they're probably...
That whole phenomenon where they describe dysphoria as being uncomfortable in your own body, a ton of people on the spectrum are like that.
They have a sensory overload.
Their clothes make them uncomfortable.
They can't wear jewelry.
All of that makes them uncomfortable.
And so you can take that and say, oh wow, that's body dysphoria.
You're not comfortable in your body.
And then I think they're probably also much more prone to the abstraction of their identity.
So think about what you can do in modern video games.
You can design your own character.
I think they're much more likely to basically imagine, I can do that to myself.
I'm really the character I made in this video game on the internet.
Jack.
Well, before, you know, as a guy who was in the intel community before this, you know, I was there when the, you know, this was kind of like starting to seep in.
But let's go through the story itself a little bit more because this, it's crazy that this is actually, this wasn't like some disclosure, by the way.
This is, you know, Tulsi Gabbard just got in his DNI. Bratcliffe is over at CIA. But this is actually a source that leaked all of this to Chris Rufo, if I have that correctly.
I think so.
I think that is right.
And so, I guess the question is, for some people in the audience, Jack, do you have any...
I mean, you served in the Intel services, and you're not trans and not gay.
So, Jack, help me understand how tranny...
I made it.
How tranny is our Intel services?
More interestingly, what percentage of people in the NSA are trans, since it's very hacker-focused, very computer?
Yeah, so...
I mean, it's non-sarcastically.
I mean, is it the tranniest of all?
No, it's actually correct.
And so this also coincides with how A lot of, and Blake, I know you and I have chatted about this in the past, about how, like, the LGBT community took over sort of the geek world.
So when I was in, NSA was known for, like, this was your geek.
The guy at the NSA is, like, poor social skills, low soft skills.
These are your people who would do actual LARPing, as in they would, like, do live, hold live action role plays at the Fort Meade.
In the cafeteria there, you know, or like on, you know, work events.
You know, they're going to the D.C. area Renaissance Fair and they're holding live action role play, like big Lord of the Rings kind of stuff.
And again, like I'm dating myself because my experience was, it's been almost a decade since I've been out, you know, give or take.
But that's kind of was the bleeding edge of it when I was there.
So it was totally taken over by the Geek Squad.
And that very same space has a lot of overlap as well with the LGBT community.
This comes in through Tumblr.
It comes in through TikTok now these days.
You have this huge, and a lot of it, Charlie, exactly as you're laying out, by the way, comes from being super online.
And so when I was getting out, I remember across the Intel community, it was this huge push for, they would call it allyship.
You have to be an ally.
You have to put up the flag, especially if it's Pride Month.
You have to put up your little ally sticker.
And I would say, well, I'm like a traditional Catholic.
We have issues with that religiously.
It comes into conflict with our belief system, so I'm just not going to do that, but I'm not going to sit there and try to convert people to Catholicism either.
I'm just going to actually do my job.
And more and more, you saw the stand-up of these So let's go a step further.
I think that there is a An interesting connection with how many trans people become helicopter pilots.
Have you noticed this?
This is a very real thing.
And I think that...
I've done some thinking about it.
I think it's because there's some sort of exoskeleton that is around you when you're a helicopter pilot.
So do they become helicopter pilots or do helicopter pilots become trans?
No, but there is something philosophical and ideological where...
Let's say you're a man who thinks you're a woman and you then can assume complete control of something that is not yourself.
It attaches to your being.
Is that making any sense to you?
It is a little bit.
It is a real pattern.
Am I making this up?
Pilots do it.
Obviously some ultra-masculine athletes do it.
You get these kind of adventurer types.
I'm going to go fly a helicopter.
I'm going to fly small planes.
Sometimes you have very hard-driving businessmen come out and say, like, actually, I knew I was a woman on the inside the whole time.
Couldn't you tell when I was doing my hard-charging business career and all these other masculine interests?
Another thing that's interesting that overlaps with the NSA hacker thing, it's not widely known, but so many major online spaces, you get sort of these transgender shock troops move to take them over.
So, for example, Reddit, the most soy...
Web site in the world.
Moderators on Reddit.
There's a ton of transgender.
There's like a cabal of transgender people who are the moderators of a ton of major subreddits.
And so they engineer things.
For example, after Elon Musk did the, you know, my heart goes out to you thing, they organized this extremely systematic get Twitter banned, get Twitter links, X links I should say, X links banned from Reddit on all these things.
Totally coordinated.
Totally fake.
The trannies were the ones that helped organize Delete Uber.
Do you remember Delete Uber early on in the Trump administration?
Do you guys remember this?
It was huge.
Because of all of the immigration protests, it was all driven by 10 trans activists on Reddit.
And they were really good at it.
Like, really good at it.
Another big one, Wikipedia.
Wikipedia is much worse now than it was 15 years ago, and a lot of it is there are super users on Wikipedia who their entire life is just obsessively trying to police whatever articles they've taken over.
Very disproportionately transgender on that one.
It's a real thing, and what is especially concerning when we talk about should this be allowed at the NSA, independent of what they're posting here, a very real trend, a trend that we have to be honest about is The thing that is very creepy with a lot of transgender people is it eventually entirely takes over their personality.
Totally.
They are incredibly hostile towards anyone who's impinging on this identity of theirs.
The term you'll run into is tranisseries.
They are shock troops for this ideology in terms of how obsessed they are.
And it gets more and more and more extreme.
So I think...
I would not be surprised if we're going to see more, like, transgender shooters in the future.
People really whipped up and radicalized by this.
We just, Blake, we literally just had a transgender serial killer cult, which involved, by the way, a number of hackers, where they just got arrested, I think, in, like, Western Maryland, out where Tim Pool, I guess he used to do his show out of there.
And of course, they don't cover it that way, the Zizians.
And this was a huge group that was conducting transgender-fueled slash vegan-fueled violence and murder across the country for years.
And yet, this is something that, like...
The true crime community is never going to talk about.
It's something the mainstream media is not going to talk about.
They'll say stuff like, oh, they were...
I think I caught the USA Today headline when it was out.
I took a picture of it.
It said, there was an odd twist.
There was an odd twist when they captured the members of the cult.
An odd twist that they were all vegan transgender radicals.
Just an odd twist, though, as a mainstream media.
But so if you actually study this...
It does go back to, you know, it's like Norman Bates, right?
It's something that Hitchcock would talk about where, you know, there clearly is a key issue fundamentally, which, of course, dysphoria is a mental issue.
It clearly is a mental issue, and it was in the DSM until very recently, that can generate these types of feelings.
And so that's one of the reasons why there was that...
There was that trans individual that was arrested at the Capitol who came in with Molotov cocktails and a loaded 9mm and was going to kill Scott Besant during his confirmation hearings, but originally wanted to target Pete Hegseth.
Why?
Because Pete Hegseth was pushing, and I think at this point has signed now, the trans ban in the military.
And so they view that, as Blake exactly what you're saying, this direct attack on their identity.
And so when you listen to their their chat rooms or you listen to their their writings and you see this in some of these trans killers in their suicide notes, they'll say we had to do this because the world was after us.
We had to respond.
Violence was the only answer because they really do view it as a direct physical attack on their identity.
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Well, here's what's crazy to think about.
And we were talking before the show a little bit about how the intelligence community recruits.
And most of it's, I mean, we've seen this like in big organizations.
At Turning Point, for example, there's certain personality types that fit into certain jobs.
And you have to wonder, I mean, not wonder, it's pretty obvious that the opening of the gay agenda within government and just the LGBTQ, you know, especially with the trans community, this is kind of, you have to assume it's pushed.
People who are mentally ill, trans, into these jobs, these very important jobs.
And how crazy is it?
I mean, you just brought up like the masters of Reddit and Wikipedia, who are the people who oversee everything.
I mean, these are basically the same types that are overseeing all the confidential information.
All the gatekeeping that happens within the intelligence communities.
And now they're basically, those are the only jobs they can fulfill.
More than a decade ago, Snowden said they had all these cases of, they called it like Lovant, where NSA employees were abusing their powers to basically spy on people they were interested in.
Oh yeah.
Now imagine how insanely abusive you could get if you're a politically radicalized person of that.
Opening the door to these personality types, though, is basically shoving them into these very important jobs, which that...
I mean, you've got to address that.
Sensitive, espionage-related positions to people who...
As their core identity are powerfully delusional.
And they have no other opportunity.
They have to go into these jobs because they can't be front-facing civilian jobs.
They can't be military-esque jobs within the intelligence agencies.
They have to go into these dark rooms behind the scenes where nobody sees them like the personality type that Charlie's describing.
So it's basically this entire channel and by gayifying the entire government more has made Basically open the door to the entire trans community taking over maybe the most important, most critical, most sensitive element of intelligence.
I don't know that.
I mean, I don't want to overly generalize, but I'd say that narcissistic personality and trans overlaps.
Yeah.
And would you say that's true?
Narcissism and trans.
Oh, for sure.
For sure.
Oh, yeah.
And in politics, there's a lot of...
It's all narcissism.
Oh, yeah.
And so, therefore, you see a lot of that represented.
But can we all agree on thought crime that people that are afflicted by the trans ideology have no place in the military or the intel services?
Would that stand up in an executive order?
The intel services won.
Intel services...
It would probably be tough given...
The military has stood up important.
The military has stood up because I think the president basically has special commander-in-chief.
He could do whatever he wants, basically.
But intel services, they're technically civilian, and you just run into...
Are they technically civilian, though?
I don't think that's true, though.
They're part military, part civilian.
It's majority military.
I feel like it's enough.
It depends.
My guess is it would just...
So, DIA and all the service branches are...
It would run into that freaking boss dock.
There's overlap.
Everyone's talking.
Jack, so explain to me how if you are intercepting communications that might have to do with the Ayatollah Khamenei that is civilian.
Explain that to me.
Because it just has to do with the way that it's scheduled.
So you could be civilian.
However, the NSA is directly a service component that works with DOD. So you've got, I'll put it this way, you've got a mix of civilian and DOD that are working together.
So like, for example, I was Navy intelligence as a civilian, but I was also working with people who were in the Navy in uniform.
So you've got...
And the NSA is, of course, under the Department of Defense, but it's got civilians who work there as well.
So it's, yeah, it's a little bit of both.
You've got your civilian, like, GS employees, but you've also got military, you've got military authorities because they're a duty agency, as well as uniformed military soldiers that are, you know, like, conducting the actual cryptological work of, as you say, intercepting, you know, the Ayatollahs or, you know, the Russians or the Chinese or whoever it is.
So the, that makes sense.
I got it.
But let's kind of take a step back or a step to the side here, Blake.
Should there be other restrictions for trans people of working in our government in period?
I mean...
And is that constitutional?
It gets tougher.
I mean, I don't think we want to say, like, just because a person is delusional or nuts, they're not allowed to have any kind of job.
But no, I mean, let's play this out, though.
I mean, hold on.
Hold on.
If someone is bipolar schizophrenic and starts screaming in their workplace, you could make an argument that person should not serve the Department of Interior.
You could.
But what if they're just, you know, I guess if they're just a perv, basically, like...
I'm asking a question.
Should...
Should trans people be allowed to serve in the federal government?
I'm a hard no.
And it's just the simple explanation that we've all been talking about.
We have to diagnose this as mental illness.
And that's what it is.
And you have to live by just a very black and white.
If you're mentally ill, you shouldn't serve the people.
And it's the same thing.
This is where I'm at.
Look, there's a place where people can decide this, and that's by electing them.
That's the beauty of the republic.
Well, like Delaware.
Yeah.
If you're mentally ill enough, you have a community of mentally ill people that want to elect someone to represent you that's mentally ill, great.
Be my guest.
That's your way to serve.
You shouldn't be able to simply be able to have somebody that's not mentally ill fall for this trap that we just saw for the last four years where you basically put at the highest level mentally ill people and then basically you have, again, the patients running the insane asylum.
And that's where we were at the last four years.
This is why we're in such a bad spot.
So it's got to be a hard yes or no, in my opinion.
All right.
Jack, would you like to increase the temperature of thought crime here or bring it down?
You have a choice here.
Fork in the road.
Increase.
Increase.
Again, gender dysphoria is in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders.
Not anymore.
DSM-4 it is, but not DSM-5.
Sorry to, you know.
I think gender dysphoria is still in four.
I am 90% sure they got rid of it.
I think it was gender disorder in four.
Let me ask.
Well, I think they have gender dysphoria, and then the cure, of course, is that you get...
No, I think they got rid of the term altogether.
Let me see.
I'm asking my perplexity.
No, you're right.
It is there, but what did I read in some book?
Keep going, Jack.
I'm not trying to...
Oh, yeah.
So it changed from the SM4. It changed the term as a disorder to just gender dysphoria.
So let me just be clear.
Yeah, so it was gender disorder.
Gender identity disorder.
It is no longer a disorder.
So they consider it a thing, but there's nothing wrong with you.
Does that make sense?
So I guess for the insurance, yeah, so for the insurance, you have to be in the DSM as something.
Exactly.
But there's nothing wrong, but you need insurance.
But politically speaking, right, for political purposes, they have to say nothing's wrong.
But again, you're still in the manual of mental disorders.
So if you're in the manual of mental disorders, are you the type of person that should be given access to this level of information?
Are you the type of person that should be allowed a Yankee white and you can go around the president or have access to the PDB and all of these different things?
And this is a serious question that should actually be asked.
Given their own inclinations about the things that they've said regarding their disorder with identity.
It's right there.
And so this is something, by the way, which used to come up on the SF-86.
It used to be something that would be asked on the polygraph, all of which was taken away from the intelligence services, all of which was taken away from the military.
But it used to be a very obvious question.
Look, at the end of the day, these services are not made for gender experimentation and social experimentation.
The purpose of the IC is to protect people and give indications and warnings of when our country is about to be under attack or U.S. interests are about to be under attack.
This is the same intelligence community that we're told had no idea that Thomas Matthew Crooks was about to climb on a roof and take potshots at President Trump and kill Corey Campatore, the same intelligence community that got so many things wrong over the years.
And so, no, we shouldn't have to cater to every social interest or mental disorder that's out there when it comes to the intelligence community or when it comes to the military.
And it's really as simple as all that.
Okay, let's go to Luigi.
Alright, I want to read one last quote from them just because it was so amazing.
This is one of the ones from the NSA chat.
Hi.
It, its user here.
That's their pronouns.
They're an it.
While I understand we can make some people uncomfortable, keep in mind that the dehumanizing aspect, either A, doesn't apply, or B, is a positive effect when we're requesting it.
Yeah, totally sane person.
Okay, yeah, ban them.
Kick them out.
Alright, there we go.
Now we're on to Luigi.
Alright, so this is an amazing story that just happened.
So, obviously...
We've got Luigi.
Let me bring it up here.
So, Luigi, the shooter guy, is still Luigi Mangione, who is in prison.
To remind everyone, he assassinated the United Healthcare CEO. Shot him in the back.
Parable.
Allegedly!
Allegedly!
Even though it's on camera.
And so, apparently, this is reported in The Mirror.
So, it's a tabloid, but it's probably true.
It's just too trashy for normal publications to do it.
Apparently...
Luigi Mangioni has had to ask fans to limit the number of photos that are sent to him by fans in prison to five apiece because police are complaining that they have to review all the photos he's receiving from fans.
He's also receiving many tens of thousands of dollars, actually I think over $100,000 in donations to his legal defense fund.
Someone sent him $30,000 recently on his whatever crowdfunding site is.
And there's a lot of fandom for Luigi.
I think we very much have to consider the idea that you could get a hung jury from a deranged leftist who's just in favor of what he did.
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So, Jack, you believe you have clarity on the why.
I seek to know, okay, so I seek to understand the phenomena here.
I think what he did was in total cold blood.
I just think it's disgusting.
Why do so many people, not just, so there's two elements here.
There's the Kaczynski, I get that, okay, girls like bad boys, they don't have fathers around, they don't have a boyfriend, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, okay, fine.
You know, that's one, you know, one other thing.
The other part is, why is there mass quiet support for what he did?
Does that make sense?
So there's two elements here.
Of course.
The bad boy phenomena, I'm not that interested in.
That's been well documented from Kaczynski to Eric Rudolph.
Ted Bundy.
Ted Bundy.
That's been figured out.
Help me understand.
Ted Bundy got married.
Right.
Help me understand the other part, please.
Yeah, Charlie.
So the reason that the far left lionizes...
Luigi Mangione.
By the way, they keep saying, you know, they keep saying, oh, he's innocent.
Luigi's innocent.
I said, well, if he's innocent, why do you love him so much if he didn't do anything?
Or if he didn't do anything, why do you love him so much?
This was the thesis of my New York Times bestseller last year on humans, how the secret history of communist revolutions and how to crush them.
And we described the far left and communists as people who would support and love.
A character like Luigi Mangione.
We specifically said that these are the types of individuals who they would support because we said they're...
Look, the communists will tell you all day long they support justice and equality.
And the cultural Marxist, of course, will talk about identity and diversity and race and gender and all these things we were just talking about in the last segment.
But in reality, that's not true.
That's not what actually drives them.
The unhuman, right, the communist, it's an intense hatred of beauty, success, those who thrive, anyone who they view as prosperous, viewing them as oppressors that need to be torn down.
They believe in this oppressor class versus oppressed class.
And here's the key, by the way, Charlie, here's the key way to, I think, make anyone see.
The difference between what Mangione did and how it's not actually about, oh, healthcare companies or anything.
Which, by the way, you know, the left, of course, were the same people who told us that we were supposed to love healthcare and healthcare is great.
These were during COVID-19 that we're supposed to listen to the healthcare and trust the experts.
But suddenly, oh, no, go and kill them at the same time.
You're like, wait a minute.
This is complete doublespeak.
But to the leftist, to the communist, it's not.
And Charlie, I'll explain why.
It has nothing to do with his direct position.
Even though he was wealthy, he was certainly wealthy, but actually, ironically, or perhaps not ironically, the individual, Luigi Mangione, his family was actually more wealthy than his victim, his alleged victim here, the CEO. But what is he really, Charlie?
He's a successful, white, heterosexual...
Male.
And in cultural Marxism, so all forms of Marxism have a specific enemy.
They have a specific devil, to use Eric Hoffer's phrase.
So not all mass movements require a God, but all mass movements require a devil.
The mass movement devil right now is white, male, heterosexual, Christian.
You add all of these things together, and that is what they cheer the killing of, especially if you're successful.
Now, let me ask you this question, Charlie.
If that...
Healthcare, if this was really about healthcare, do you think they'd be just as cavalier?
You mentioned turning up the temperature.
Do you think they'd be just as cavalier about cheering on Luigi Maggioni if the healthcare CEO, hypothetically, I'm not talking about anyone in real life, but if he had been, oh, I don't know, a black male CEO in a committed same-sex marriage.
Then, of course, they wouldn't be cheering him on.
They wouldn't be excited.
They wouldn't be happy about this.
They're doing so because he took out one of their individual targets that they view as part of the enemy class in society and have taken all of that incipient rage and deceptiveness and destructiveness and obsession with power and nihilism and turned it against.
You, the white male over class.
And this guy went further than anyone else has been willing to go thus far.
Well, can I add this too?
The scariest part about this whole thing, we've talked about this at length before.
I was well said, Jack.
On this show.
And to piggyback on Jack's entire, you know, his entire mantra is talking about this and educating on this, is when you get the communists together and normalize it, We've talked about if the communists in the country and the BLM folks and everyone else became nationalistic, that's a very scary moment.
We've said this on this program.
If they get smart on immigration, crime, and trans, those are the three things.
And that's the scary part about this thing is it normalizes the normalizing of the hatred for this executive, which I've seen a ton of stuff from very normal people posting.
And again, I don't know if you guys have seen it with friends and wives and things like that, but my wife has seen people really aggrandizing.
And it's scary because it's the normalizing of this very communist behavior that Jack just so eloquently went through.
I'm looking at his defense fund right now.
It is $618,000 as of this moment.
Just some of the quotes.
These are people within the last hour.
Maybe the next healthcare CEO that gets whacked, it will be done by someone more professional who knows what they're doing and won't advertise it.
Keep up the good work from New Zealand.
The shooter is a hero who assassinated a terrorist leader.
Let's see.
Mangione for President.
Free My Homie.
More free my homies.
Yeah, so let's take a step back, Blake.
I think this is important.
When I talk to boomers about this, they're kind of really disconnected from it, not to criticize them.
Can you please educate how much of a cultural icon he has become?
Oh, enormous.
Explain it, because I talk to all the people, like, what do you mean he's a criminalist, terrible, nobody likes him?
No, talk about how there's real viral subterranean momentum for this guy.
Okay, so yeah, first of all, the reason they don't see it, a ton of it is on TikTok, it's on Instagram, it's on platforms they're not on.
Frankly, it's weird to say it helps a lot that his name is Luigi Mangione.
And so if people are familiar with Super Mario, Mario's brother is Luigi.
That's an important component.
It made it very easy to, you know, you can go on the AI platforms and you can make AI images where it's like Luigi assassinating a healthcare CEO or you make the CEO guy.
We have one right there.
You have Luigi assassinating Bowser in a business suit.
And so it's really easy to, it was very easy to kind of turn it into a visible, I hate to say the word, but fun thing.
You're taking this children's video game that's very colorful, you know, you've got those Luigi hats, you can buy those online anywhere.
He also comes off not psycho too, right?
Yeah.
Well, I mean, again, I say this as with a staunch, unblemished record of heterosexuality, he seems to be a good-looking guy.
It seems so.
He's good looking.
So you got the Jody Arias situation.
Can we get the Seinfeld clip of the unblemished record of heterosexuality?
I mean, I look at Luigi and I say, okay, he...
Do you agree, Blake?
Blake, by the way, if you're afraid to talk about this, then...
No, I'm just...
I feel like you guys are always protesting your heterosexuality and then you're like, well, Lord of the Rings felt really gay when I watched it.
Every movie I watch feels really gay when I watch it.
We cannot spit out.
Do you want to go back to the Reddit topic?
Or do we want to kind of stay?
Look, I'm just saying.
The thing that really is bizarre to me about the normalization of this guy is, and this is what's scary, and I think this, again, piggybacks on what everything that Jack is saying, is that the more figures like this that make this proletarian type behavior Normal is going to not help in the broader context of how the direction the country needs to go.
So the thing that I think freaks me the most out, again, about communists is if they become everyday type people.
It's the same thing that the left says about how they view right-wing anarchists that want to demolish government.
The more normal it's become.
And our side has done a better job at having more normal figures in general.
Obviously not crazy people killing people on the street.
But that's communism.
That's what communism is, is crazy people killing people on the street and the normalization of that.
I mean, that literally is 1917 Russian Revolution.
Forget even just Russia.
Every single communist revolution has been like that.
You know, the biggest, greatest, most successful version of it in Russia, you know, you could argue is that's where, you know, that's that.
That is the binding element.
And that's what's so scary about this situation is this almost has the elements is if he was more of a political figure and more well-known, where would we be right now?
I mean, that's a scary thought.
So here's a possible thought.
So let's say Luigi Mangione goes on trial and he 100% doesn't contest he did it.
They're overt defenses.
I did it.
It was a good thing.
Jury nullification.
And the jury nullifies it.
And they vote that way.
He's a free man.
He's a free man?
What if Trump said, okay, and he drone strikes him?
Well, no.
Trump shouldn't find federal charges against him.
I mean, there's got to be some interstate law that he broke, conspiracy to commit murder.
At that moment, you've got to bring the DOJ in, take him out of New York.
I'm not kidding.
Put him on trial in like Trumpsburg, Alabama or something?
I'm not making a joke.
I'm saying I guarantee you there's some sort of...
In fact...
This is an important thing.
I might message Pam Bondi about it, also because I'm saying it public or privately.
The Fed should quietly be building a case just in case of, okay, was he sending text messages?
Because he fled across state lines, right?
All this stuff, you can get him for more, I don't want to say ticky-tack.
Less, one second, Jack.
Less, like, okay, not just the murder itself, which I think does also violate, by the way, federal law.
You're not allowed to murder.
There's a federal terrorism charge now.
Yeah, and by the way, the local prosecutor should have some humility.
If he feels as if it's going, just drop the charges.
Meaning you could basically do a motion to dismiss before the jury meets, and then you could refile.
Does that make, right?
As soon as the jury comes and says not guilty, it's double jeopardy.
You literally can't.
But yeah, I mean, I think that there is a place...
Now understand, though, if one Hongjur, that doesn't mean that he's acquitted, though.
No, then they could rebrand him.
So he's going to spend the rest of his life in some sort of...
This is too graphic.
I think we're not at a place now where we're going to allow this guy back on the streets.
Unless you have like a Munich-type situation go on and you turn him into a political figure.
I mean, this is literally Munich...
You mean with Hitler?
Yeah.
All right.
So just so we're clear, this is me with Luigi Maggioni.
Play Cup 153. Can I say one thing to you?
And I say this with an unblemished record of staunch heterosexuality.
Absolutely.
It's fabulous.
You can't say fabulous now.
It's so good.
That was okay, so George could still get away with it.
What I was going to say, and I think Tyler was kind of good at it too, is like, you lock him up without dealing with any of the underlying pieces of it, that you just make him a martyr, right?
You just make him a political prisoner.
And that's not going to actually do anything to change the public perception of him.
And in fact, it's going to...
I mean, you look at some of the horrific people that Joe Biden pardoned on the way out, and they've done the exact same thing with them.
The guy who murdered those FBI agents or some of the horrific killers that you see getting rehabilitated in.
Again, I'll go back to the true crime community because they're just so awful and disgusting and leftist.
And they'll find just, you know, Julius Jones, Rodney Reed, you know, these horrific, unrepentant murderers and try to say or that.
It was the guy in Baltimore, the one with the New York Times podcast, etc.
And they'll just say, oh, gosh, it was a case of mistaken identity.
It was racism, whatever.
So we got to let him out.
And in some of those cases, they do actually get out, Charlie, like you're saying.
The bigger, I think, issue, though, here is this stuff is normalized because we live in a society.
Where a Gini coefficient is getting really bad and the Gini coefficient is, it literally means just the disparity between the haves and the have-nots.
So this is where Trump comes in and says, look, you know, we can actually work to make the middle class better.
We can make life better for the working class and stop screwing them over and not making the rich get so fabulously wealthy.
Trump, hopefully, if he's successful, if his project of populist nationalism is successful, and people really do change their ways, I mean, like the Republican Party actually moves to a populist nationalist model and stops trying to flood us with, like, cheap migrant labor into the heartland of the country, then maybe we can get to a place where, as living standards go up, support for insane nutjob communists, like...
Like Mangione goes down.
The problem is if, say, you know, we hadn't gotten on that, gotten on that path of having Trump involved.
And actually getting to a populist, nationalist, moderate approach to dealing with these issues, then, yes, there would be a huge appetite for real, full-on communism in this country.
And you definitely see that expressed with the support for Luigi Maggioni.
That's what it really is.
They want to see more people shot in the streets.
They want to see probably all four of us on this podcast shot in the streets, and they would have our children taken away and given off to whatever couple wanted to adopt them.
And they would cheer.
They would absolutely cheer to watch it happen.
And how do we know this?
Well, just go look at their chat rooms.
Of course.
We get death threats all the time.
That's who these people are.
So, yeah.
So does this teach us anything about our politics that we should be concerned about?
Well, I'll just interject this.
I think the mistake is to look at him like a Ted Bundy or a Jody Arias.
And just look at him for good looks.
Oh, he's wooing the women.
I think that's actually a piece to what we're talking about.
And it's really important for people to be really well-educated on this is that there is a much deeper, bigger problem politically here that Jack, again, led into this entire thing with is that this is a way bigger issue.
This is not just a simple dismiss the murderer type thing.
I'm going to mention something Blake's not going to like.
FBI launched an investigation into James Comey.
Oh, we'll see.
Are you okay with that one?
Because of an off-the-books honeypot operation targeting 2016 Trump campaign.
That's big.
That's interesting if that's a honeypot operation.
I'd love to see the details on that.
This all ties in with Dan Bongino going in.
So new leadership at the FBI is starting an investigation into the origins of the agency's plan a decade ago to infiltrate Trump's campaign using two female undercover honeypot agents.
That is crazy if true.
Holy cow.
This is reported as fact.
One second, Jack.
The off-the-books investigation, launched in 2015 by James Comey, was revealed by an agency whistleblower in a protected disclosure to the House Judiciary Committee last year and was first reported exclusively by Washington Times.
So this apparently has been out there.
Wow.
And the intel community, in the intel community, Honeypot commonly refers to an undercover operative, usually a woman, who feigns sexual or romantic interest to obtain information from a target.
Jack.
So, what...
This is actually good.
This is very, very good that this is happening because the communists will not stop until they are stopped.
So we talked about how we've got these gay race communists in our intel communities.
I seem to remember a certain senator from Wisconsin telling us that communists were taking over the CIA, but I digress.
And now we know, of course, that we've got communists all throughout the DOJ and the prior iteration of the FBI. And the issue with fighting communism is one thing that we learned throughout all of this is that the only way to actually stop communism is to stop the communists themselves.
You're not going to win, you know, you're not going to go up to some ardent Luigi Maggioni supporter and say, stop supporting him!
Come on, man!
It doesn't work that way.
What you have to do is you have to find the individuals and you have the people who have actually broken the law in furtherance of their radical ideology.
So we're obviously seeing that here.
We saw that throughout 2016, 2017, anyone who was around for the Trump 45 administration certainly saw that.
You find them, and it's not going to end until you reach parity.
With the understanding that we're not going to use this insane lawfare anymore.
The only way you get rid of that is through mutually assured destruction.
It's called the Code of Hammurabi.
And the reason it works is because that's what creates the essentials for allowing civilization to prosper.
The communist is against civilization.
The communist wants to use the tools of civilization to destroy you, to destroy their enemies, destroy everything else.
But of course, what ends up happening, civilization is disrupted and dissolved.
Because that's what they've done.
They've destroyed the very tapestry and the infrastructure that allows civilization to be possible.
These basic ideas of laws that are just, laws that actually provide a limit to what you respond with.
And so the only way to re-insure that is you've got to fight fire with fire.
And that's exactly what they're doing here.
I completely applaud this, and I back it 100%.
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Let's go to AI singularity.
Alright, so the starting point of this is just that Elon Musk tweeted a few days ago, just one of his one-liners, that the AI singularity is near?
Is that what he tweeted?
It was...
Yeah, so we are on the event horizon of the singularity.
That's the tipping point of a black hole where you can't get out of it, basically.
And so for those who missed it, the singularity is the idea that we could improve AI to the point where an AI is smarter than a human.
And the AI is therefore capable of improving itself.
But we were still about 10 years out from that, right?
It was one of those things we were perpetually 10 years out from for decades on end since it was coined.
And then I think with the chat GPT thing taking off a couple years ago, it feels suddenly much more relevant that we could be close to that.
We've seen the AI models have gotten a lot better in the last two years.
They've gotten a lot better in the last six months.
Our allegedly abilities that are behind the scenes and are not public yet, that are getting better and better and better.
The question is, would it ever reach the point where, as it was, if they...
Are able to improve themselves without our input.
The idea is you could just turn on the AI and it's able to go run away, improve itself, make more AIs, make better AIs.
And then in theory, within a matter of...
Kill us all.
Not even just kill us all.
There are people who think this is paradise.
We have the AI and it solves all of our problems.
You could set it off and then...
A month that comes back and it says, I've advanced physics and chemistry and biology by a thousand years each, and I figured out how to make unlimited food and unlimited energy, and we can sail to the stars, and you're all immortal now.
That's in theory what the good singularity could be.
The bad singularity is it becomes a runaway intelligence, and it decides to turn all of us into paperclips.
Yeah, so I think the first concern is that the amount of physical energy that it takes to do that, I don't think the infrastructure has been built yet.
Like, that's an actual problem.
It is.
Like, the data servers alone.
And this is interesting.
While the people are saying we might be on the event horizon, Microsoft just canceled a ton of leases for their AI servers.
Did you see that story?
I did not.
They just said, like, oh, sorry, we're not advancing this.
Yeah, really interesting.
So everyone's bullish on AI. Microsoft, $3 trillion.
Yeah, and they're like, sorry, we've got to slow this down a little bit.
We can't quite keep up with it.
The amount of physical energy it takes to power AI. We have that capacity.
That infrastructure is not built.
So it's like a million times more energy intense than mining Bitcoin.
Yeah, exactly.
It is very interesting because each, you know, they have to train these basically.
And the training is you're just feeding it essentially every image, every sentence, every piece of music ever created to find all the patterns.
And every time they upgrade it, so we started with, you know, GPT-1, GPT-2, and of course all the spinoffs.
Kind of every time they upgrade the quality, apparently the amount of energy they have to put into training it is like an order of magnitude higher.
No, that's right.
And we don't yet have the infrastructure to do that.
And we now have insane demand for AI. So what we're about to see is an AI traffic jam, the likes of which that really is going to tick people off.
But the flip side of this is also crazy, which is, have you heard about DeepSeek?
Yeah, the Chinese thing.
So the Chinese thing, but what's crazy with the DeepSeek...
I know more about AI than I do about pop culture.
What's crazy with DeepSeek is that the Chinese, according to themselves, people have wondered if it's true, but the people who made DeepSeek claim they trained this AI, which is not quite as good, but almost as good as the top-end models we have, and they reportedly did it much cheaper and much faster.
I know, but they're communists.
They're probably lying.
Even if it's half.
But there's a lot of cope about China.
Have you seen this video of the AI talking to each other?
There's cope, but I did actually see, Blake, I did actually see there was some reporting that it looked like they had trained DeepSeek from OpenAI.
So they had already used an iteration of OpenAI that existed, I guess ChatGPT or one of the GPTs that's out there, and that had used it just...
Like building on what was already out there, which would certainly go along with how China operates.
I don't think that China would be precluded from creating something like this, by the way.
And Charlie, to your point about the massive energy expenditures, I mean, China loves their mega projects.
There's nothing that China loves more than mega projects.
Yeah, so I'm not believing that singularity is going to be hit anytime soon.
And here's why.
You know the singularity paradox?
That you actually never know if it hits singularity?
Like, with an actual singularity?
That's right, or the tech one?
No, because the AI right now could tell you that it's self-aware, but it's actually not self-aware.
It's just parroting something that it read on the internet, knowing that that's what you say when it's singular.
It's like the Turing test.
Yeah, exactly.
So you actually don't know if it's ever...
So you actually will never know if singularity is actually ever reached.
Well, the singularity just describes how fast it can improve.
Well, no.
Technically, singularity means that it is self-aware.
That it knows it is a machine, and you are not.
That's sentience.
That's sentience, I think.
No, I think that's singularity, isn't it, Jack?
Singularity is the point of just logarithmic improvement, I believe, is what that usually refers to.
No, I think I'm right, aren't I, Ryan?
I think I'm...
Did I just correct...
Did I just fact-check Blake?
I don't think...
Ryan says, no, Blake, you're actually wrong for once.
This is what...
No, no.
Hey, hold on, hold on.
Charlie just corrected Blake.
Charlie, why don't you read the first line of technological singularity here?
Time out.
This is a hypothetical point in which the technological growth goes uncontrollably, irreversible, resulting in unforeseeable consequence.
But I need to read this whole thing.
Well, it's...
I think Charlie, what you're saying is probably the more common way of saying it.
Sorry, I'm not going to consider the point that I'm wrong.
I think the official phrase is like, when it surpasses us.
Yeah, so...
So let me just...
But you're basically saying the same thing.
Let me ask you a provocative question.
And I could do AI all day long because I think it's the most interesting thing happening.
I think everything else is a distraction.
I think AI is the most important thing happening on the planet right now.
Like, more important than everything.
And I actually think it can be really exciting and also terrifying.
If singularity is reached, Jack, is it a species?
You know, what's funny is, so I rewatched The Matrix last weekend, and I guess I forgot how much of the buildup in that movie is, it's all based around AI. It's all based around...
You know, AI becomes self-aware and then they eventually become a breakaway species from us.
And then they launch a war with us, humans, and then humans black out the sky because the AIs are all solar powered.
And that's what creates this huge dystopia, which then causes the robots to want to make, you know, make humans into their batteries.
And that's what they create the Matrix for.
Kind of hand-waving a few things.
There's probably other power sources out there than human beings.
But still, the idea that your AI can eventually...
Actually, Charlie, the craziest video that I saw this weekend for everybody was...
And I'm sure this was probably an ad, but has anyone seen that video of the AI agents talking to each other?
Yeah, I was just talking about it.
That was the thing that went viral this week that everybody was looking at.
It was so viral.
Yeah.
I mean, it's probably a little bit, you know, set up.
So the idea of an AI agent is sort of like...
You know, hey, we got to book travel or we've got to book a, you know, Charlie's got Turning Point's got a, you know, a series of campus stops and, you know, Charlie Kirk's coming in.
We need this much crew.
We need this much time.
We need permits, et cetera.
So you would get an AI agent that would go in and, you know, do all that busy work for you, make the phone calls and go through all the logistics work of it.
Or, you know, when Amvest is going on and everyone's got to deal with all that, you would get an AI agent.
So, you know, Turning Point Actions event staff would get.
Didn't AI agents do all those phone calls and one that can speak?
Well, in this video, an AI agent, and it's planning a wedding in the video, which I'm sure is an ad, but it realizes that the person that they're speaking to over the phone is in fact an AI agent for the wedding venue, which is a hotel in this case.
And so they say, oh, do you want to switch to jibberspeak?
And jibberspeak is this like...
Basically, it sounds like a dial-up modem for anyone who remembers what that sound is.
And you just hear these two computers going back and forth.
And yeah, I mean, I don't know how you describe that other than this is another species that we are creating right now.
So the question then is also, what's so interesting is that it's a species just on a server that technically exists at the will of us.
If you take a hammer, you could destroy the species.
Yeah.
Does the species get rights?
Or what if they can create more instances of themselves?
But how?
How do they physically expand beyond a server?
That's where it starts to get interesting.
Technically, they're literally just housed on a server.
Is the most technical way that you can...
It's going to be illegal to ever decommission a server?
No, I mean, look, I think...
And by the way, it could multiply itself through robots.
And robots are coming very quickly.
Yeah.
Way more so than...
By the way, I have a whole conspiracy theory.
The media is underplaying the advancement of robots.
Totally.
And if you talk to the smart tech investors, they're fully functional.
They're ready to go.
The rollout is coming.
Mass unemployment is around the corner.
Why would you not run a...
How is that not the number one story?
Again, we're talking about systemic racism or Doge.
All that stuff is interesting.
There is this barreling train that's about to change everything.
Change the species as we know it.
Automated vehicles, robot vehicles.
I will say in the short term, I am more bullish on AI because I think it actually can make human beings better what we already do.
My fear is that that's going to be a short-lived window.
It's going to be like a 5-10 year...
We need to consider it a priority.
To figure this out?
To figure it out and to make sure that the benefits are widely distributed as opposed to the possibility is just the guy who owns the robot owns everything.
All of these are moral questions and that's why it comes back to why we're conservatives, not libertarians.
That's why I think it's the most interesting thing that's facing humanity is that it all comes back to, well, we need a neutral public space.
There is no neutral public space or AI. You need to make truth claims.
Do human beings matter?
Does life matter?
Who gets the stuff?
Why do they get that stuff?
AI is going to force us into the most important moral conversation since Christ.
I really believe that.
To take a step back for a moment, think about what this shows you about politics.
If you went back 2016, Trump was running for president, and you told them, yeah, in 10 years, by far the biggest political issue is going to be how we handle AI and robots, because they're going to replace absolutely everyone, and that's going to be way more important than the border, for example.
And it would feel wild to say that.
The border won't even matter.
Yeah, it'll render the border irrelevant because it'll just be the machines are replacing everyone.
And it shows how quick, like, an issue can feel obsolete or come out of nowhere to be the biggest thing.
The machines will build the wall.
And, like, terrorism.
No one will ever be talking about, like, terrorism as a big issue.
Wait, so what's going to happen then in this country?
We were just talking about the communism thing.
What's going to happen when we've got all these imported cheap foreign laborers from the H-2B and H-1B and all the rest of these programs, and now they can't get jobs because we've got robots doing all of it?
Listen, we're going towards a mass social welfare state, and the only way that they're going to be able to...
There's going to be a robot tax where every robot that is working is going to be like $50,000 a year to the government that you're going to have to pay that will go to a UBIT. That idea has been floated.
That's where we're heading.
It's coming very quickly.
And there will be a short window where companies are going to be able to use robots to maximize profits.
There'll be huge worker strikes.
Congress will meet.
There'll be like $50,000 tax per robot as a user tax.
So it's like, hey, if you replace a human being, you have to pay for a human being, basically.
It's going to be a one for one.
Well, those big monopolies will take...
Take total control of everything in that small window.
Of course.
And so I'm saying, like, these are insane questions that we're facing.
But at the other side, there's incredibly bullish interpretations to the sector that I'm most excited about, not on the mRNA vaccine thing, but just the number one problem with medicine and health care is data.
No one knows what you have, your background.
Why is it?
Does someone else in Singapore also have your condition?
What helped for them?
What's their full history?
Read your genome.
Read all your sorts of different diet, your blood work.
No human being can possibly do it.
It's not possible.
There's millions of data inputs that come to our, do you have a predisposition to cancer?
Are you developing a heart problem?
AI, the most exciting advancement of all of it?
Is how it could reduce unjust suffering.
Without a doubt, the most exciting.
Imagine if Trump came in and said, we're going to spend $10 billion to figure out how to use AI to make Medicare and Medicaid more efficient.
Yes, we're just saying, we're going to find out if you have a predisposition to cancer by age 35. The technology there is there.
We already run the VA hospitals.
We're going to do VA hospitals to figure out how to treat people and reduce the number of staff.
The scary ramifications...
Hey, Charlie.
Okay, Jack, yes.
And I was going to say, what about...
We know there's a certain percentage of people who have adverse effects to marijuana.
Like, we know there's a certain amount of people who take it and do get what they, you know, they used to refer to this as reefer madness.
Some people get it, some people don't.
So what if you're running your genome through that and you find out, oh, look, I am like 90% risk of getting this?
Yeah, exactly.
And I mean, it is this, here's, and we'll close with this because I know Tyler's got to run and I got to run.
There is a temptation to think we're going to enter into a Star Trek world where no one owns anything and there's no currency.
I think it's going to be a lot clumsier than that.
I think that if we don't have good leadership and statesmen of the Churchillian type, this will get us into war the likes of which we've never seen.
There will be revolution in the streets.
It'll make the Russian Revolution look like child's play.
If 5,000 people own everything and robots are running the world, there will be a workers' revolt that no one can control.
So these are the most—I just want everyone to—you can mark this down.
February 2025, this is going to—this will redefine everything.
Everything.
AI makes tyranny easier, so we have to worry about that.
Totally.
And that's the other thing.
You want to go into the deep, dark conversations on this online is thinking about how voting is impacted, how people are elected.
The disgusting, scary part of this world is that this is the reason why everyone is so lindelian about the machines is AI's impact on how...
Internet impacts.
Mass voting is very scary.
Very scary stuff.
Again, that's actually where I'm really excited, though, is that it's the human being.
It's us.
That are going to have to solve these questions.
And people are like, oh, you know, this is really eventful.
If you think that Trump 2024 was eventful, wait for 2032 when we have to answer the highest stakes questions.
And these are not easy questions.
It's like, what is the role of the state?
What does liberty mean if you have a robot that does everything?
What do you do all day long?
Is this going to make people happier and more miserable, more suicidal and more flourishing?
Why even have kids?
These are really important questions.
What is God?
Why are we here?
Of cosmological significance.
I'm excited for it.
Because I think we're way better equipped as conservatives and as Christians to engage in this than a secular materialist.
What is their answer?
Oh, neutral public square.
Because I'm Sam Harris.
Shut up.
You're not equipped for this.
You read the ones who are just like, I don't even bother saving for retirement because I'm so convinced the AI apocalypse is coming that we're all just going to die.
Well, the aliens are supposed to protect us from that.
I inherently reject Doomerism.
I'm more interested that it's going to...
I think that we are being, as a movement, prepared for this window of time where we complain, oh, the boomers this, like Gen Z millennials, when we get towards peak political maturity in 15 or 20 years, all of this experience is going to have a crescendo where we're going to be answering and deciding and governing.
It will be like the Magna Carta for human beings.
I know that might sound like a hyperbole, but like 500 years from now, they're going to look back and be like, wow, in 2040, that original Declaration of Rights of here's what AI does and here's what it doesn't do.
And then we chart the path for the next thousand years.
That's how important this is.
It's bigger than like solving wars and the border.
All that stuff's important.
This is the stuff that will...
Determine whether or not we exist as a species.
But the only government that can do is America.
Of course!
The American people are the only ones, I think, predisposed to answer those questions.
And man, you want to talk about, and again, I could talk about this for hours.
The rest of the world's a disaster.
I've done so much thinking about this.
there will be such a revealing moment of someone that's nakedly bought by corporations that will make a short-term deal yeah where they're like and they'll just do it for money or a payoff where these corporations are like i can displace 99 of my workforce and like that's going to expose our politics in a way that will make people revolt so anything else you want to add to that i'm still right about singularity No, actually.
I read it right here.
The singularity involves emergence of artificial general intelligence, AGI, which means it has human-level cognitive abilities followed by artificial superintelligence which would exceed human abilities that would allow it to have sentience and self-awareness.
Yes, but then it's the superintelligence where it improves faster.
That's why it's a singularity.
It improves so fast.
It instantly changes everything.
If you just have a person who's equal to a human...
Or, you know, slightly below a human, like Tyler here or something, then you would, it's not a singularity then.
It's just like a thing that happened.
It's when you can create someone smarter than a human who can then make it itself even smarter because it's smarter than us.
That's what makes it a singularity.
I think everything's preparing us for this.
I think it's the purpose of why we are here.
I'm not kidding.
I think this is the most, you guys can laugh the same way that like DeSoto and Columbus, you know, discovered the new world.
There's a new world waiting for us and we need to figure out why we're like, what is our purpose?
And it's, we cannot allow it to sneak up on us.
The Magna Carta for humanity.
Remember it, write it down.
And until then keep committing thought.
Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
Email us, as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.
Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.
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