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Jan. 21, 2025 - The Charlie Kirk Show
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Liberation Day for the J6 Patriots
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Hey everybody, today on the Charlie Kirk Show, we go through the January 6th pardons and why it was the right move by President Trump.
Then Cain recaps the last couple of years, the triumph that we are experiencing, and more.
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It is a new era.
It is a golden era for America.
I won't go into too much of the details here, but I think I'll just mention this.
Julie Kelly and I were on the phone together with the president last week about this topic of January 6th.
We won't say any more than that, but we got Julie and I reconnected.
She has the president's respect.
She knows this topic better than anybody else.
Julie, welcome back to the program.
Hey, Charlie.
What an amazing day yesterday.
And thank you for your help with this historic decision, courageous decision that the president made.
It's really amazing to see the videos on acts of people being released from federal prison after all these years.
So thank you and thank you to the president for including me in that process.
And I hope we can toast in person one of these days, Charlie.
Yes, and Julie, you deserve a lot of credit.
The president was making his whole final decisions, and you were very persuasive for him.
Let's just put it that way.
So, Julie, let's recap for the audience.
What exactly was signed?
What are the details of this pardon?
Educate our audience on that, please.
So the pardon, as the president said during the signing ceremony, last night is a full pardon.
So that applies to close to now 1,600 J-6 defendants.
There was a carve out there, Charlie, for 14 individuals whose sentences have now been commuted.
And those were all members or associates of the Proud Boys and the Oath Keepers.
And I believe that he said that those cases will be reviewed.
Also, for pardons, and I believe his final decision will be similar to what we saw yesterday, pardoning those individuals, many of whom were convicted of seditious conspiracy, which is a terrorism statute usually reserved, Charlie, for real terrorists, not political protesters.
So I'm sure the president will reach the same decision.
And then what's happening today, Charlie, there were several J6-related court proceedings in Washington scheduled for today, including one case going to the jury for a verdict.
And you have the new D.C. U.S. attorney, Ed Martin, who I believe that you know, who is a friend of mine, and he's already filing motions to dismiss those indictments.
And I know that judges were forced to do that today.
And boy, I wish...
I wish I was there to have seen those judges have to drop those cases.
That would have been another incredible moment.
And so this is so profound, and I hope everyone here understands what's going on, is that the president could have done the watered-down version, right?
He could have kind of gone halfway.
Now, the media is attacking.
They say, oh, well, President Trump even commuted or pardoned people that were violent.
This is the important thing, though.
The question is, do you believe...
If the tree is rotten, is the fruit also rotten?
Can a rotten tree produce good fruit?
No.
Talk about the due process violations.
That's really what we're getting at here, is that these defendants did not have basic constitutional guarantees.
They were guilty until proven innocent.
Pre-trial detention, solitary confinement, did not get access to adequate attorneys.
They did not get the ability to examine evidence.
Julie, it's not about that President Trump made a comment on the actions of what they did that day.
He was pardoning and commuting the process.
Explain, please.
And Charlie, that obviously was something you were very adamant about, is emphasizing the lack of due process, the constitutional rights violations at play in this prosecution.
So that is, of course, something that we added to the consideration.
And I know that the president himself is fully aware of what these prosecutors and judges have been doing for more than four years.
But I think the most egregious violation is that judges systematically, for three years, Charlie, as we discussed, denied every single change of venue motion filed by every J6 defendant, arguing that they could still get a fair trial in a city most entirely populated by Democrats, and not just Democrats, Trump-loathing radical left-wing Democrats who view the events of January 6th as they do compare it to 9-11.
I have sat in some of those jury selections.
You cannot believe what the residents of Washington, D.C. think about January 6th.
So the judges would claim, okay, well, we'll go through this Wadir process.
We'll really, you know, drill down into their political views about Donald Trump in January 6th.
No, they didn't.
They didn't do that.
And so it resulted in the DOJ having this perfect conviction rate after now almost three years of trials.
So that right there is an indication that these J6s did not have their constitutional rights of an impartial jury going before an impartial jury.
And certainly the judges were a big part of that, but also withholding discovery, Brady materials, exculpatory evidence, concealing the use of not just FBI informants, but other undercover agents from numerous law enforcement agencies.
So there were so many things just systematically happening there that resulted in more than a thousand going to federal prison.
So I know that that was part of your strong argument, not that we needed to.
Again, the president was on board, but I think just developing the argument and the record for this extraordinary measure that he took yesterday.
There were people not on his team.
His team has been excellent, but in his orbit.
That we're saying, do not do the widespread pardons.
Is that fair, Julie?
Yes, absolutely.
Because to your point, the easy one, the low-hanging fruit, and I think what a lot of people thought was going to happen, and CNN and the Washington Post actually erroneously reported this a few hours before he issued that pardon, is, okay, we'll just...
Just dismiss the counts, pardon those who were convicted or accused of the four or five common misdemeanors, which is still hundreds of people.
And then we'll go case by case for the 300 or so with those federal, it's 111 charges, assault interfering, impeding certain officers.
I think that's what everyone was sort of suggesting, and you know this, Charlie, pressure from Republicans in Congress.
We had U.S. senators very strongly come out during Pam Bondi's confirmation hearing.
Tom Tillis and Lindsey Graham very unequivocally saying.
There should not be pardons for anyone accused of assaulting police.
So this was such a courageous decision by President Trump.
I really want to emphasize that.
This was not an easy thing for him to do, but he did it because it's the right thing, and he feels personally passionate about restoring justice and making these people whole.
It was a phenomenal act of courage, a breathtaking act of courage.
The other element of J6 News is that in the morning, every member of the J6 committee and their staff received a preemptive pardon from the scum of the earth, Joe Biden.
This one even took me by surprise.
What is going on here?
So he issued pardons for not just the members, so Benny Thompson and Adam Kinzinger, of course, Liz Cheney, but the staffers.
So this would be the investigators.
I think they hired a dozen federal former prosecutors, Charlie, to interrogate 1,000-plus witnesses, mostly Trump White House employees.
They're all pardoned.
But the real outrage, Charlie, is pardoning what I call the four J6 celebrity cops, Mike Fanone.
Aquilina Ganel, Harry Dunn, and Daniel Hodges, who not only committed perjury under their sworn testimony during that first hearing in July of 2021, they have showed up as victims and witnesses in J6 hearings and trials and sentencing, begging judges to throw the book at J6ers based on the lies about...
Their injuries or what they saw or what they endured.
All four of them committed perjury multiple times.
And that is proven by the fact that Joe Biden has had to issue a pardon to exonerate them.
They caused arguably more damage to J6ers than Liz Cheney and that committee.
Really a despicable move by Joe Biden on top of so many.
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Have we ever seen anything like the January 6th show trials and, let's just say, blitzkrieg in American history?
Has there ever been an equivalent to this?
There has not.
And the criminal defense attorneys have said this to me.
They've said it in court motions.
There is nothing comparable.
And I think one big indication is having that reversal, Charlie, of the 1512C2 count.
John Strand can talk to that.
That post-Enron obstruction that was overturned by the Supreme Court in June, saying that the DOJ wrongfully applied that statute in 300-plus cases.
Nonetheless, the DOJ, DCUS Attorney Matthew Graves at the time, pushing forward with trying to make that charge stick, even after the Supreme Court overturned them.
This was a rogue, reckless, destructive political persecution.
And Charlie, people have to pay for what they have done.
This cannot be the last word on the travesty of the J6 defendants.
Those in charge, Matthew Graves, Lisa Monaco, even Merrick Garland, have to be held accountable for the lives that they have destroyed or tried to destroy.
Julie, you're the best.
Thank you so much.
Congratulations.
You played a big part in this.
The president credited you multiple times privately for helping shape his thinking.
So great work.
Thank you.
Thank you, Charlie.
We are just getting amazing testimonies.
I mean, one in particular, let me just read this to you from my pastor, Pastor Rob McCoy.
A very disturbing one was Mark Ibrahim.
So Mark Ibrahim was a J6-er who was an active DEA agent who never stepped foot in the Capitol, but publicly testified that he knew that they were undercover FBI agents there because his brother was an FBI agent who was there and he trained with others.
He was an active DEA agent, therefore legally allowed to possess a weapon in Washington, D.C., allowed to possess a firearm.
Despite that...
He was arrested for carrying a weapon with the intent to support an overthrow of the U.S. government and was facing 16 years in prison and lost his job.
Well, Mark Ibrahim is now completely pardoned and he has his life back.
How amazing is that?
It's a total reversal of fortune.
16 years on completely BS, made-up stuff.
Totally made-up.
The other one that we're going to have on the program later this week is Siaka Masakwai.
Siaka Masakwai was hunted by the federal government.
For years, an actor, a supporter of President Trump, and was found eventually at an airport with his pregnant wife and was shook down as if he is El Chapo or some sort of child sex trafficker or drug smuggler.
He was actually facing trial last week.
His trial started last week.
Charges dropped.
Game over.
Thanks for playing.
They went all in on January 6th.
The regime went all in as a way to try to break our will.
They thought that they could break our spirit, break our gusto, break our will.
Joining us now is John Strand.
John, congratulations.
You are a free and cleared man.
What does this day mean for you?
Charlie, thank you for having me on, and thank you for acknowledging the enormity of this moment.
Myself and every J6er have...
Truthfully been exonerated as the innocent, brave citizens that we were that day, showing up when it was unpopular and uncomfortable to do so, to stand up for constitutional integrity and our constitutional rights.
This is a day of incredible victory, vindication, and a recommitment to The reality of truth.
I thought it was incredibly beautiful and incredibly important what President Trump acknowledged in his historic inauguration speech, that there is a God and in him we trust.
That is what this republic is built on.
That there are only two sexes, male and female, that God has created.
And this truth about January 6th is also incredibly important, that we no longer live in the lunatic left paradigm of a false reality about January 6th being an insurrection or any of this other rhetoric that was clearly not only false but deeply malicious.
Julie Kelly was spot on in her comments about the malicious An unprecedented nature of a weaponized DOJ that waged what was tantamount to a kinetic war against its own citizens.
The carnage is that catastrophic.
And we must have a national reckoning with what has been done to these citizens and their families, myself included and many others.
Some who lost their lives, who lost babies, who lost families, fortunes and sacred honor.
It was all obliterated.
That's terrible.
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John, we don't have a ton of time, so let's do this quick.
But John, I need to make sure I mention the January 6th defendants who killed themselves in this process.
Matthew Perna, Jord Meacham, Chris Stanton, Mark August.
Can we put this up on screen?
These are just some.
I think there's a fifth somebody mentioned, but I want to verify that.
We know that these are some of the January 6th defenders who've taken their lives after they lost everything over the protests.
They're up on screen right now.
The Department of Justice, FBI, and media in the entire January 6th committee has blood on its hands.
John, your reaction?
Restorative justice is essential.
We're gathering J6 defenders and as well as the entire country and the world as advocates.
Movement for restorative justice.
Please join us at WeAreJ6.com.
And what that means is we need a national reckoning with the truth of what happened, with the weaponized government, with the corruption of the DOJ and the prosecutors, and with the harms and catastrophe inflicted on these folks.
So we need to make them whole.
We're talking historic civil damages.
We want to work in cooperation with the incoming Trump administration to make sure this happens in the right fashion.
And also that there is serious accountability, as Julie Kelly mentioned.
We must hold these government officials to account and make sure that as a prosecutor and as a judge that you are upholding the Constitution and you are not willfully participating in a collusion to violate civil rights.
Title 18. Code 242, under color of law, violating civil rights.
There is strong law in place that must be enforced, and we need a reckoning with these institutions.
Really quick, recount for our audience, you were in solitary confinement in federal prison.
That's right.
And now you have a full pardon from the President of the United States.
Put that in the words the best you possibly can, John.
I mean, what I am so grateful for is that by exercising what I call uncomfortable courage, knowing what's right and wrong, and choosing right, fighting against evil, I actually refused the plea deal, and therefore it was vindicated at the U.S. Supreme Court, and I am about ready to be vindicated and exonerated legally even before the pardon comes.
So, that's a representation of the fact that we were innocent, betrayed by a corrupt government.
We stood strong.
The pardons cleared the decks and reset the narrative that we have been exonerated and we must examine what the government has done wrong.
John, congratulations.
Thank you so much.
Thank you, Charlie.
God bless you.
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Mr. Kane, we did it!
Kane, we did it!
Cain, I have it right here.
I just want to go through this really quick for the audience.
The headlines.
Donald Trump regains power.
Front page of the Washington Post.
Trump's stark vision.
Washington Times.
Trump's vows golden age.
Cain, the floor is yours.
Yes, sir.
So Trump was dead, Charlie.
That's the thing we need to remember, you know.
These last three days were eat and drink and celebrate, and now we go to work.
Today we go to work.
And it's important to remember with the new golden age and all the joy and excitement from the past 72 hours that Trump was dead in the water.
Murdoch had banned him from Fox News.
Any live appearances on Fox News weren't allowed because he might dare mention the steal.
This all happened after January 6th.
As you and I know, because we talked about it all the time on your show, he was tied in the polls with DeSantis, right?
The billionaire donors had turned their back on Trump two years ago.
The Davos crowd declared that populism was dead, Charlie.
They said it was dead and gone, and Trump with it.
So this guy rose from the grave.
He never stopped fighting.
I personally, I view Trump as an athlete, okay?
I view him as a guy who doesn't like to lose.
He never likes to come in second.
So it never even occurred to me that he wouldn't run again to sort of clear his name.
But no one else thought he was going to do it or thought he could do it.
So that sort of needs to be the backdrop for those amazing headlines that you just showed.
And you've been chronicling it every single day.
And I know you remember that stuff two years ago.
There was serious doubt about President Trump.
So it's a testament to, you know, to MAGA Nation.
It's a testament to the viewers.
It's a testament to, you know, populism is about the people.
It's about the people pushing and forcing action.
It's not sort of a typical political philosophy.
And I really feel like it was the people.
That made this happen and made it happen for President Trump.
So it's just a great day.
Cain, let's go back in time.
You and I really grew close during the kind of dark night of the soul.
Before what we see here on screen, President Trump dancing at the ball.
He wasn't dancing a year and a half ago, Cain, when you and I were chatting.
Talk about how dark things looked.
Yeah, I sent you a 3 a.m.
text.
I think that's sort of famous.
We talk about it sometimes.
I saw, you know, it was six months or so before the...
The first indictment, and we saw it coming, and we didn't know exactly how to react.
That probably was part of the reason that Trump wasn't doing especially well in the polls, that he was tied with DeSantis, in addition to the donors turning their backs on him, is people didn't know how the base would respond when the indictments came.
So you and I, we got nitty-gritty into the polls.
And we were trying to analyze all of this stuff ahead of time.
What is the first indictment going to do to him, right?
So that cleared.
We looked at the polls two or three weeks later, and he was still fine.
In fact, he was a little bit stronger.
So you and I got a little bit more optimistic.
The second indictment, the third indictment, it was the same thing.
Trump seemed to grow strength.
I remember Vivek being the only candidate who showed up in the Florida indictment.
Vivek went down to Florida.
And gave a little press conference there, an impromptu press conference.
We didn't know how the other candidates were going to react.
We didn't know how the voting public.
And we started to see that Mandela effect, as you coined it.
That Trump was getting more popular.
That even the never-Trumpers were starting to see that, and independents included in that, were starting to see that this was lawfare.
This was...
They're attempting to keep the candidate, the people's candidate, out.
So we watched him gain strength.
And you and I know, we were guessing the whole way, Charlie.
We were looking at tea leaves.
We were reading these polls, trying to figure out if Trump was going to lose strength, how this was playing out, these indictments with the independents, right?
That was really what we worried about, was the independent voters.
And so for all of it to turn out well, and I started to say at the beginning of this broadcast, there's a great tweet that Charlie put up, you know.
Charlie never stops working, and he never stops worrying.
That's something people don't know, and it's a good thing to never stop worrying.
And I think Charlie finally took, you finally took a deep breath as the inauguration happened, and you put that tweet up, and people really, really loved it.
That's very sweet, Cain.
You know, on screen we had some B-roll of Elon Musk.
Cain, you and I both agreed that with the purchase of Twitter, that was almost the cause set in motion that got us here.
It was the beginning where all these other tech companies started to reconsider.
Elon Musk was the tipping point.
I cannot emphasize enough the role that Elon Musk played in all this.
By the way, that also should get in the Smithsonian of President Trump with the sword.
How should we think about Elon Musk's role in saving Western civilization?
I'm 100% on Team Elon for what he did for Twitter.
And you're right about it, getting the ball rolling.
He made it easy for all of Silicon Valley.
You know, Marc Andreessen, David Sachs.
Jason Kalkanis, other big names in Silicon Valley.
And he made it easy for, you know, young people tend to identify with that and with sort of that cohort.
And in addition to the work that TP was doing on all the college campuses, there was sort of, you know, there was a meshing underneath it all that sort of young men, young women, Silicon Valley.
All sort of turning and making it okay to talk about your support for Trump.
Okay to admit that you plan to vote for him.
I put it in the stack yesterday.
We had the CEO of Uber writing a pretty hilarious explanation of how he went from never-Trumper to pro-Trump.
And now back to Elon.
When I talk about being on Team Elon, you know, I don't want to have...
I want people to understand that there are shades of gray in everything.
We're not always all going to agree on every issue.
And the H-1B issue is one of those.
But Elon showed some ability to compromise there.
And the bigger point, if we didn't have Twitter, Charlie, we didn't have anything.
I mean, you've got an army.
I mean, there's a Charlie Kirk army.
There's a Benny Johnson army.
There's an Elon army.
And these armies went to work.
You know, in the final three months leading up to November, and I'm convinced, you know, I really believe that there's social pressure involved in voting, and people talk to their friends, and I'm convinced that that social pressure had finally sort of abated, that you weren't allowed to talk about voting for Trump and weren't allowed to support President Trump publicly.
So I agree with you that, you know, the day that he first mentioned, hey, maybe I should buy Twitter.
You and I both know what that meant.
We could sort of see ahead and it turned out better than we could have imagined.
And, you know, and I'll throw it back by saying, you know, it's correct.
Other than, I can't think of his name now.
Oh, Reid Hoffman at LinkedIn.
Other than Reid Hoffman, we had Zuckerberg, we've had Bezos, all led by Elon Musk.
And it's just a fantastic feeling.
You know, last thing I'll say is it gives me hope.
What it makes me really feel is that we can grow this coalition for J.D. Vance, assuming he's our nominee, we can grow this coalition over the next 12 years.
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Mr. Kane, J.D. Vance, what does that mean for our movement moving forward?
Well, sorry.
I was just making vacation plans with my travel agent for a trip to Gulf of America, Charlie.
So hopefully I'll see you there.
I love it.
Yeah.
So, J.D. Vance, you remember – you're a junkie like you.
You remember all this.
You remember when J.D. was running third in the Ohio Senate Republican primary about two months before that primary?
So when, you know, you mentioned sort of believing in him first for the Senate, like there were dark days.
It's an amazing four or five years for J.D. and what's happened.
Here's the thing that people don't remember.
How did, you know, how did it sort of come about that J.D. became the vice presidential nominee?
People think back.
It all happened.
At the People's Convention in June of last summer.
If people remember, that was around June 13th, June 14th, I believe.
And there were a lot of names being thrown around at that point.
No one had sort of solidified on anything, even through the convention.
And Charlie and Andrew ran a straw poll.
TPUSA ran a big straw poll at the People's Convention in Detroit.
And that was the first time that J.D. sort of had started to rise.
Above the other candidates.
And I remember I get a call.
I got a call or a text from Charlie.
I'm driving home from Detroit.
And I pull over to the, he's like, he's like, you got to get this straw poll out, Ken.
You got it, you know, and it was, I think it was a Daily Mail had gotten that exclusive.
And I pulled over the highway and I got that published in bright red at the top of the stack that J.D. Vance was the overwhelming.
I remember the number.
I don't remember you.
I'll pause here.
What were those numbers on that straw poll?
It was overwhelming.
It was well over like 60 to 70 percent.
I mean, it was it was triumphant.
Yeah.
And that was it, though.
If you remember a week before that, J.D. Vance was sort of just in the mix with the other candidates polling equally.
So something happened and, you know, not exactly sure what that was.
It was probably a big some big influence from from from.
The base, as we all finally got together, right?
There had been no convention to that point.
That's another reason that was a great convention.
It brought the base and the people together in June.
And J.D. Vance was a favorite.
And he emerged out of there, and it was smooth sailing from there.
I think it wasn't any more than two or three weeks after that.
Maybe it was all the way at the convention that Trump, I don't remember when he announced that he had chosen J.D. But it's really interesting.
That he goes from third in the Senate primary in Ohio on the Republican side to winning that thing, to raising his profile for a couple of years in the Senate, and then really exploding last summer.
And I think what you said is correct about J.D. just being a really, really nice person.
You know him, so you're able to confirm that, but it comes across.
Correct, the best.
And the kids.
You know, the way his sons and daughter, they're just, they're great kids and the way they parent them is so relaxed and like the Thanksgiving video when I think JD was cooking with his son, no, his daughter, he was cooking with his daughter.
It's just sweet stuff.
These are real American people.
They're perfect populists.
So I'm super excited and I'll close it with just saying we really have a chance, Charlie.
You know, let's get Scott Pressler turning New Jersey into the next Pennsylvania.
Let's grow this working-class coalition, and let's win 60% for the next 12 years.
What do you think?
I love it.
I just think it's spectacular.
Kane, you are the greatest.
Seriously, you have been an uplifting, cheerful, consistent, based voice on this program for a couple years.
And we were in dark spots together, but we were always rallying.
We were talking about how we were going to get through it.
We were strategizing live on air.
And this is your victory, Cain.
You're the new Drudge.
You're bigger than Drudge.
How are the numbers, Cain?
Yesterday, Charlie, is the biggest day since the day after the election.
19 million page views in the last 24 hours.
And you're right.
It's not me, man.
All I do is work, yeah, but it's the people.
It's the people spreading the word, and yeah, we passed Drudge probably in November was the last time he's beaten us.
We're right about 500 million page views a month now, so it's outstanding.
That's unbelievable.
I've got to text you more links.
You're the greatest.
Kane, thanks so much.
God bless you.
This is your victory.
This is CFP's audience victory, citizenfreepress.com.
Kane, talk to you soon.
Thank you.
Talk to you soon.
Thank you.
Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
Email us, as always, at freedom at charliekirk.com.
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