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Jan. 2, 2025 - The Charlie Kirk Show
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How the Base Came Back Better, Stronger, and Tougher — Exclusive Interview with Donald Trump Jr.
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Alright, Don, welcome to Phoenix, man.
Good to be here.
Good to be back.
So, we got quite a crowd.
Our members-only crew is growing.
I mean, your members-only crew is larger than, like, the entire membership of Turning Point the first time.
That's right.
This would have been a big turnout back in, like, 16 for...
Oh yeah, the first event you spoke at was our Winter in West Palm Beach event in Palm Beach.
This was like the combined attendance of that entire event.
And by the way, by political standards, that was huge, so to speak, with a capital Y. But it's grown a lot.
It has.
So, Don, there's so much to kind of walk through.
Let's go back to what you called day one, what we called the new day one, January 7th, 2021. Yeah.
It looked as if the Trump movement was over.
We were put in exile.
You never gave up.
We never gave up.
And now here we are today where everyone acts as if it was an obvious foregone conclusion that we're going to take back the White House.
Take us back in time.
Walk us through the most amazing political comeback in American history.
Yeah, no, it was incredible.
I mean, everyone was like, well, I was there in, you know, 16 and 15 and whatever.
It's like, well, where were you in January 7th?
Because there's multiple day ones.
If you were at both of those places, that's pretty great.
And that's really the applicant pool of who we're looking at right now.
I mean, the amount of people who...
You know, jumped ship on January 7th, and, you know, Trump never had a chance on, you know, back in 15, zero chance of winning a primary, zero chance of beating Hillary Clinton.
You know, he was definitely getting impeached twice.
He just kept coming back.
Watching all of these people write you off so many times, it's actually great motivation, but I think that's what's so much more effective about This administration, this cabinet, the people that are involved, we just know.
You know, in 16, we didn't know anything.
We didn't know anything.
The first night my father spent in Washington, D.C. was the night he moved into the White House.
We were trusting, you know, Kris Krispy Kreme Christy.
You know, that was our closest person that may have known something about Washington, and, you know...
Maybe he did.
Maybe he knew something bad.
And so it's just so different, which gives me so much hope.
It's why you see people trying so desperately now.
But it's not working anymore.
Once you got a hold of X and watching the left right now...
Oh my God, it's a right-wing platform.
No, it's 50-50.
You're just used to having an entire echo chamber to yourselves.
You're not used to having to argue.
You're not used to having to actually formulate an opinion because whatever you said was just the gospel.
As long as you repeat the narrative, you are rewarded with followers and likes.
It's just so different now.
The people are involved.
I mean, you know, as we've been saying, we are the media now.
Yes.
We're also the government now.
Um...
I mean it.
I mean, you look at what's happening in the last few weeks.
I mean, you know, two, three weeks ago, you know, Pete Hegseth was dead, according to the media, and then, you know, MAGA got involved.
People were vocal.
They started calling out sort of the, you know, more rhino-leaning members of the Republican Senate, and all of a sudden, everyone's back in line, and I call it ETP, Education Through Pain.
You know, it's Charlie.
I like that.
It is, but that's what it is.
Not in the physical sense of the word, because some schmuck on CNN is going to say, he's inciting violence.
You know the deal.
And so, you know, we did that.
We weren't able to do that in the past, right?
Even if we had our voices out there where they were suppressed so badly while...
This sort of popular Democrat narrative was enhanced artificially.
Now, with a level playing field, we can do that, and we can make these representatives actually represent us for a change.
I know that they're used to doing the bidding of the oligarchs in the D.C. swamp.
That's gone right now, and that's why it's so fundamental.
We just keep it up.
You can't do that.
And when people, well, this one's over, and if Hegseth would have rolled, they would have set their targets on the next one.
It would have been a dynamic shift for the next four years.
But watching, you know, not just us, but all of you, you know, get after it, get involved, call these people out, you know, whether it was physically, whether it was on social, whether it was on the media, you know, we turned a narrative around in like three or four days that, you know, the experts...
We've all been hearing about experts for a while.
You can't be an expert, by the way, if you haven't been right in about a decade.
You should lose your expert status.
But the experts were saying, you know, there's blood in the water, this thing's over.
And, you know, the base stuck by their people.
And when we do that and we become unafraid and we fight back, we win.
And it's that simple.
And so I want to be very clear.
We said this, and Don and I were part of a few people that held the line for Pete Hegseth.
And that's not over yet, but that was a very telling moment because if we would have just kind of surrendered, it could have derailed the entire Trump presidency.
And I hope you guys understand that, that the whole direction of the Trump presidency was in suspension.
I said, and Don echoed and vice versa, that if you are a Republican senator like Joni Ernst or one of these others, and you voted for Joe Biden's Department of Defense director, and you won't vote for Donald Trump's DOD director, we will primary you and remove you from office immediately.
We're actually watching that play out again, I mean, with the CR. I mean, you took a bill that the Swamp would have gladly signed that had a lot of stuff that was bad, and, you know, in three hours, that thing was dead on arrival.
And, again...
Because of you guys calling it out, we now have the ability to assess information rapidly.
Not, you know, well, pass it to figure out what's in it.
We've heard that for far too long.
Now we can actually see it.
With a level playing field, you know, on social, we're actually all able to then chime in.
And, you know, in 24, 48 hours, we got a new bill that got rid of a lot of that pork and a lot of that waste and all of the things that everyone here voted against on November 5th.
It's funny.
They have a comparison right now on Twitter is that the other one was 1,500.
The new CR is like three pages long, which is the way it should be, by the way, is that if you're going to do a CR and you're going to do debt living increase, you don't need 900 different pages to get there.
Don, what is it about this retiring Republican ideology from some of these senators where they feel as if it's okay to give Joe Biden what he wants but not Donald Trump?
Like, it's not easily understood.
Help me understand the psychology behind that.
Am I allowed to say it's like a cuck mindset?
Can I say that on the Charlie Kercher?
I'm not quite as evangelical as Charlie, so I'm...
I'm going to go.
No, it is.
You know what it is?
I've been saying it.
If you're a weak Republican in D.C., it's an easy existence.
You can be like 90% of the way there, 80% of the way there, as long as you give up when the Democrats really need it or want it.
They leave you alone.
They don't show up in front of your house.
You're not getting the hate mail editorial from the Washington Post.
And so for a lot of these people, they get to DC, and they forget about the people who actually sent them there and what they actually represent.
I've been in the room.
I've seen it 1,000 times.
I'll go do events for these people, try to help them get elected.
Because I mean, not in all cases, but usually a weak Republican is still better than a D.
So you go there.
You hear the things that they're saying to the people.
I'm like, you know what?
This guy's not going to be that bad.
Or this woman's not going to be that bad.
They're going to be fine.
It's maybe not exactly what I want.
And then they get to D.C., and it's a totally transformed individual.
You know, they feel they really have to answer to the swamp far more than the people that they represent.
And again, that's what that dynamic shift is all about right now, because the people they represent are actually paying attention.
They've been lied to forever.
They no longer just have this blind faith You know, that the person who they heard speak two days before telling them everything they wanted to hear, checkpoint by checkpoint, is actually going to do it in D.C. because guys like us are actually out there calling them out.
They see it and they're saying, wait a second.
You know, we're putting up their numbers in D.C. and you get a couple thousand calls from your constituency, if you're a congressman or a lot more than that, if you're a senator.
And all of a sudden they realize, like, hey, the jig is up.
They're on to us.
We can't get away with it anymore.
If you're going to face accountability, for me, when I get a hate piece from the Washington Post or the New York Times, I look at that as a win.
It means I'm over the target.
It means I'm actually being effective.
They don't view it that way.
We've not been playing the same game for far too long.
We've been playing T-ball while the Democrats have been playing hardball.
I'm fine with either game, but we have to be playing the same game.
And I think it's changing.
I mean, with people like you, J.D. Vance.
How great is J.D. Vance, by the way?
Isn't it amazing?
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And before I go any further, Don deserves a lot of credit for pushing for J.D. Vance.
And understand, the easy way out would have been a typical D.C. Republican.
And Don, you pushed for J.D. Why did you push so hard for J.D.? I mean, I did a small little thing, but I mean, you went all in.
If it was politics as a poker game, Don took all of his chips.
Is that right, Don?
Early.
And early.
And you said...
The hand hasn't been even dealt yet.
I was like, I'm in.
You know what?
I got to know him.
Actually, it was sort of interesting.
I read his book when it first came out.
I was like, wow.
As he started seeing, we need more people like this.
Then it sort of went a different way.
And I actually got to know him through some friends of ours.
I started hanging out with him.
I'm like, man, this guy's a great talent.
Just totally gets it.
Brilliant.
Just an incredible upbringing.
Hasn't forgotten that upbringing, which is what so many people tend to do in politics or once they reach some sort of level of success.
Got to know him really well.
And basically, I mean, I sort of did the pre-endorsement endorsements.
It's sort of the unofficial pre-endorsement.
You've got to be a little careful getting ahead of DJT.
But I did that in his Republican primary when he was just running for Senate.
And then, you know, you, me, Tucker, I mean, you know.
There was a small band of us.
There was a small band that just sort of, you know, really pushed to make that happen because, again, I think we recognized the talent.
We had the bandwidth and the time to be able to spend there and figure out what this meant.
And once I saw his performance in the Senate, I was like, I mean, there is...
There's not many senators you'd want to share a foxhole with, certainly even on the Republican side.
But this was the one guy that I was like, wow, that's someone we can build a party around.
Because for me, it isn't just about Trump.
I actually believe in this stuff.
I've been a lifelong conservative.
I want this to continue beyond Trump.
It's just not, four more years, great, and then we're back to the Mitt Romney, Liz Cheney party.
I know.
Yes, I am saying what you're saying.
And, you know, so it was really about establishing that bench, because that's what scared me.
When I looked at 16 to 20, it was like, well, what is next?
There was no real standout.
There was no this.
I mean, you know, it was sort of joking.
We were always joking at the time.
It was like, even for the 2020-2024 primaries, like, before all that happened and the early stuff, like, you know, I was first or second.
I was like, well, that's great.
I appreciate the compliment, but, like, we need more than...
Don 2028, what do you think?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, JD 2028, JD 2032, Don 2036. Now we got it all figured out.
Okay.
Well, I mean, it was funny.
We were joking around in a text thread earlier.
Some poll came out.
It was basically, for the 2028, it's JD, then me, basically dominating the entire field right now.
And then DeSantis at 4%.
I don't know where he was, but it was a far cry.
It was very small.
It's just important to understand, like, MAGA is the party now.
That's not Trump.
That's just people who believe in putting America first.
That's what it has to be.
There's not a Republican party anymore in anything other than name.
That's maybe what we still call each other.
It's about being America first and, like, sort of feels like that's the way it should have always been.
So, Don, we look at this agenda and the team that we've put together.
Can you speak about some of these new arrivals in the last 12 months?
We had AmericaFest last year.
You spoke.
You gave a great speech.
But I want to go through the list.
A year ago, Tulsi Gabbard, Bobby Kennedy, and Elon Musk were not yet part of kind of our team.
Amazing a difference a year makes, right, everybody?
Now, not only are they part of our team, Elon Musk lives at Mar-a-Lago now.
He gets his mail.
Can you He's there all the time.
It's amazing.
He's there with his son, X, and it's really sort of funny.
I got sort of a great compliment from him early on.
In the first couple weeks of the transition, I was in a meeting, and I'm the guy that sort of takes some pretty aggressive stances and a room of people that's just a little bit more cautious than me.
Like, seven times we're like, yes, exactly what we have to do.
And it was just great to see people finally, again, willing to fight.
A guy like that, you know, maybe one of the greatest minds ever, certainly of our generation, willing to take the time to help set these things up right, to be able to look into the inefficiencies.
A guy that's, you know, done more in space than NASA, that had a 75-year head start.
Like, I want that guy involved in looking at the rest of the apparatus of government.
And so that was great.
But no, you're right.
I mean, I guess I had a pretty big part in Tulsi and Bobby as well.
Just talk about that.
Well, so I have a friend, actually, a business partner, Omid Malik, a former Democrat, got sort of blindsided by a lot of the insanity of the left, woke up.
I became a donor of ours in 2020, became a real good friend of mine, took a couple of conservative sort of parallel economies, companies, public with me, all these things we were fighting.
And he was like, listen, as a former Democrat, I'm friends with some of these people, and you'd actually get along with them really well.
There's a lot more that we share in common than, you know, we may not agree on everything, but a lot more.
And he sort of started having me sort of back-channeling with Bobby when I saw what the Democrats sort of were trying to do, which was, like, ostracize him from their side, create a cruddle against Trump, try to split that vote.
I'm like, you know...
DJT actually probably agrees with 90% of what he's saying on so many of these issues.
I know they had a history in the past.
I was like, let's just do this.
And so I basically got Susie Wiles involved and my father, but basically no one else.
Because if anyone else gets involved, you understand what happens, right?
The leaks happen on purpose.
Then they use that leak to try to create a divide.
Then they can never possibly get them together, which is why that didn't leak.
For the record, I didn't leak.
You didn't leak.
Charlie was one of the few confidants.
I was like, listen, I think I'm landing this plane.
Like, I got this thing.
He was like, no.
You called me the day before.
You're like, you don't have this thing.
I doubted.
I was a doubting Thomas.
I was like, Don, you're calling the shot.
You're like, it's done.
It's done.
It's done.
And the next day we did that.
And what was so great about it for me was how well it was received.
People actually wanted this stuff.
And when you talk to Bobby, and again, when I first...
I'm an attack dog, right?
When he first came out, I was like, I'm going to attack.
And then I got to know him and started listening to the points.
I'm like, this is exactly who I'd want at HHS. Looking into the food.
And again, create the transparency.
Let people...
The biggest thing that Doge can do isn't even the action.
It's showing the American people the trillions of dollars we have wasted on nonsense, on garbage.
Once they do that, once the American people have an understanding, it won't continue.
But it's the stuff that happens behind closed doors that no one really understands, and they just assume it's being spent well, all of these things.
And basically the same thing happened with Tulsi, who I think will also do a great job there.
So it's great to have this sort of large tent.
We've always talked about that for a while.
We've welcomed so many, and we've seen that play out certainly in the electorate.
But watching the Democrats basically eat their own for anyone who's not 100% in line with their insane talking points about three-year-olds should be able to get...
Gender-affirming care without parental consent.
It's like they'd lost their minds and they killed anyone who was reasonable who didn't just buy into the narrative.
And when you look at the sort of the diverse parties that are involved now, the background, I mean, how many former Democrats that have just woken up that are now a part of this administration?
I mean, it's incredible.
I mean, this is actually a much more real representation of America than anything the Democrats have put up in maybe ever.
So I want to open up to the audience in a second, Don, but I'm going to ask about just the questions I get a lot about your father, about how he operates, because it really is unlike anything you've ever seen.
And I mean, from the stamina to the capacity to not just campaign, but just this life force.
And I mean, you've seen it your entire life.
I mean, one story that I could tell just from three days is We were hosting President Trump back to back in Georgia and then Vegas.
I did a couple campus events in between, a couple red eyes, and I was like destroyed.
And President Trump had like four campaign events a day, went from Georgia to obviously Palm Beach, to Palm Beach, to Arizona, Arizona, to Nevada, did two events in Nevada, then went and did Rogan's show, then sent to Michigan, came back to 3 a.m.
He ended up spending 72 hours awake straight before the election.
Is that an exaggeration, Don?
No.
He did not sleep for three days straight.
I mean, this guy is 78 years old.
I mean, it's unbelievable, right?
It is.
I've seen it sort of my whole life.
I used to get, when I was younger and dumber, maybe a little wilder on the weekends, I'd get a call at like a Saturday morning at 5 a.m.
Let's just say I was probably not in the best shape of my life at 5 o'clock in the morning in my early 20s on a Saturday.
And, you know, you'd be like, hey, why aren't you in the office?
I'm like, you know, smart-ass Don.
It's like, why aren't you in the office?
He's like, I am in the office.
I'm standing in your office right now, and that's why I know you're not here.
I'm like...
Give me 20 minutes.
I'll be there.
It's going to hurt.
No, but you saw that with Rogan.
I saw it just the day before the election.
I consider myself a reasonably high-energy individual.
We've seen what happens to low-energy individuals.
I'd get thrown out the window of Trump Tower.
That doesn't work in our family.
And the two days before the election, I watched him literally pull two all-nighters in a row, and I was there.
And he was doing most of the speaking.
This was actually—I'm the guy that, unlike most in politics, I don't just show up to be in the selfie in the background to be able to show people I was doing something.
I say, let him do his thing.
You don't need two Trumps in a room.
Send me where he can't be.
I'm not looking for credit.
I don't do that, but the last basically two days, I wanted to be there just because of the historical moment.
And we had done everything we needed to do, and I'm watching him do this, and literally two all-nighters in a row, and I'm dying.
And he's playing loud music on the plane at four in the morning.
I'm like, I just want to die.
LAUGHTER I'm like, what is going on here?
And then I'm watching.
We land.
It's 6 a.m.
I get home.
I take a shower.
I'm going to go try to take a nap for two hours before I get back on TV. And 7 a.m., I'm seeing him on TV. And he's just going on through the day.
And then we go into election night.
And it's another night where he left the auditorium at like 5, 6 in the morning.
72 hours.
He's 78 years old.
Like, I'm 46. And I'm like, I'm dying.
I'm dying.
And I don't think anyone's ever accused me of being low energy, so that's a pretty solid benchmark.
Where does that come from, Don?
He's never been much of a sleeper.
He's always been passionate.
He's a true competitor, and he actually does better.
Most people fail under pressure.
He's one of those guys that just does better.
We talked about resilience when we started this.
When you look at the times he's been counted out, Whether it was in business, he just continues to be able to fight back.
And when he's put under that pressure, he just does better.
I don't think we'll ever see anything like that in politics again.
Do you think that the four years off that we had exile was good for us?
100%.
Trust me, as one of the most subpoenaed human beings in the history of the world, I don't think there's too many people that have done more than 50 hours of congressional testimony than me.
The four years of the hell that we went through, whether it's the lawfare, everything.
The lawfare, the exile, the attempt of the swamp to push us out, the attempt of the Republican Party to push MAGA out.
That was brutal.
It sucked.
But had we actually...
Well, I think we won in 2020, just to be clear.
But had we just continued...
And by the way...
I think based on the stats that we saw, where it's just one year, I think everyone else agrees with that now, even the Democrats probably.
They may not say it out loud, but I think everyone knows.
I think the reality is, had we just stayed in office in 2020, you would have had the same guys that were there who didn't really belong, some of whom are fine, maybe two or three guys that were great, but not many.
You would have had those same people that were the unelected bureaucrats.
They just know better.
So they're gonna subvert the will of the people, they're gonna subvert the duly elected president of the United States, they'll kick the cannon down the road, they're gonna slow roll it.
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We're starting from scratch with people who are the true loyalists, the people who get it.
The concentric circles of politics are interesting, right?
There's like loyal, there's competent, and there's a very small intersection where those things overlap.
That's true.
I appreciate it.
The loyalty is incredible.
I love that, but it doesn't mean you should be like...
Somewhere in the chain of command.
Not everyone who's loyal thinks they should be the Secretary of State.
It doesn't always work that way, guys.
I love you, but let's be real.
Now we know where that concentric circle is, and putting these people into those positions is so powerful.
I think, again, you see the reaction from the swamp, both the Democrats and even some of the establishment Republicans, when they saw this going on, they're losing their minds because they understand this is the one true threat to their hegemony.
I think in hindsight, they're looking back and be like, you know what?
We should have just let it go.
Joe Biden didn't exactly do a lot for the Democrat Party.
Running Kamala Harris in sort of a coup probably didn't do a lot for the Democrat Party.
I think it actually did us a lot of favors.
It opened up a lot of eyes to the insanity, to the lies.
They were able to cover that up so much more effectively in the past.
That's done.
And so, you know, I'm actually like the most grateful guy that we actually...
Did it this way than just had an eight-year straight term because I think what we can do now is exponential.
What we can do now could forever change the game, and that's something that's grossly needed.
You think about it, us with four years in exile, it got rid of all the bad guys without us, like, overnight.
Well, they exposed themselves on January 7th and for the coming months and during the primary.
Yeah, and we rebuild the government with people that are really good, that know why they're there.
I mean, you look across the board.
Kash Patel is FBI director.
And Tulsi.
I mean, it is a rock star team.
Let's get to some questions here.
Daisy, we have a roving mic.
The emphasis on the word questions, not speeches.
So, Daisy, why don't you go pick some people and we'll go from there.
Thank you for coming.
Don, your dad said that in a tweet a few months ago that he would go after any shenanigans in regard to elections.
And we know that there was some funny business that went on here in Arizona with Cary Lake, also in Michigan, Wisconsin, and Nevada.
Will there be any kind of, or can you speak to your father's resolve to try to investigate and see what happened in these states?
Yeah, listen, I think he still understands that there's issues.
The reality is what we have to do, and that's why it's not just about Trump.
It's about electing down-ballot people.
I mean, it's still a states' rights issue, right?
The problem is one guy in the federal government isn't going to be able to fix that.
Now, you can pressure the states to do that.
He obviously has the platform to be able to push that, but that's why it's not just about Trump.
It's why, you know, when I'm looking at people, they're like, well, you know, I voted for Trump, but I, you know...
But Ruben Gallego would seem like a good guy.
It's like, no, these are the people.
You saw that in some of these places.
You saw Democrats in Michigan and Pennsylvania running ads.
We support Trump.
We're with him on this.
It's like you voted with Joe Biden 99% of the time.
You don't support Trump.
You are there to block Trump.
You'll say whatever you need to do to get elected.
So what we have to do is make sure, again, we're not just focusing on that high-level, you know, Presidency, Senate seat, House seat.
We've got to be going all the way down to dog catcher so that we can hold these states accountable and make sure that that happens at the state level where these things ultimately should happen.
There's a component I'd love to be able to see something happen there, but I could also see the federal government really screwing up elections if they became federalized.
Yeah, and from the election standpoint, here's something I think that the Department of Justice needs to do and should do, which is we need to investigate Act Blue, which is the funding mechanism of the Democrat Party.
And that might not strike you as election fraud.
However, I believe there is illegal foreign money that is being pumped into our election system and is currently corrupting the way that we're able to choose our leaders.
Daisy, next question.
First of all, I want to thank you, Charlie Kirk.
I wouldn't be here if it wasn't for my daughter seeing you at Hospitality Hall up in Las Vegas, UNLV. Awesome.
Thank you.
Number two, is there any way that you can help me get a picture with Scott Pressler because of what he did for Pennsylvania?
Only for our members.
We'll get you a picture with Scott Pressler.
How about that?
And Robert Barnes.
I want to shout out to Robert Barnes for what he did with Amos Miller.
Thank you.
Okay, great.
Let's get to the next question.
Well, actually it was a question.
Can you get me a picture with Scott Bressler?
Hi there.
I would very much like you to sign the book I've been lugging around too, Charlie.
Can you please put that in question form?
Yeah, I'm about to.
This is Jeopardy.
And I did come here to meet my husband because Charlie said I was going to meet him.
But I live in a now super sanctuary area in San Diego.
They just voted for it to be a super sanctuary.
Ridiculous.
So it's kind of just a curious thing.
What are your thoughts on term limits?
Because I feel like there's pro and cons.
If we actually have somebody that we love in office, then, you know, serve forever.
But I would like people like Nancy Pelosi to, you know, get very sick.
Sorry.
That was mean.
And I love Jesus.
Really, I do.
I love term limits on paper.
I am worried.
The one concern about it is that basically what ends up happening is that the staffers end up being the sort of unelected bureaucracy, right?
They sort of know how it works.
The reality is you don't become a congressman and in two weeks you understand how it works where you carry any clout.
And that's not just because of tenure.
That's just because you have to figure out how that game is played.
People coming from the outside world, especially from our side where you have people that will take a chance from the outside world and go in from business.
It's just a different game politically.
So, you know, I'm for it generally when you have the dinosaurs that have been there.
But you have to give people enough time to be able to get their sea legs off.
Otherwise, you have some staffer that may or may not at all be with you that's sort of guiding and or manipulating the elected individual and creating a lot of headaches.
So, you know, I love it on paper, but it's not quite as simple as we'd probably all like it to be in terms of terminology.
Does it work?
Yeah, it works.
So it's a great question.
I'm in favor of term limits, but California is actually an example of how it doesn't solve all your problems.
California has some of the most robust term limits in the country for state representatives and state senators and governors, and look at what it's done.
So, but I will say out of the 10 states that have term limits, 9 out of 10 are really well run.
California could be called the exception to the rule.
But if you think term limits will solve all of your problems, it won't.
However, I do think it's necessary because having these multiple decade ruling class oligarchs like McConnell and Pelosi It's totally unhealthy and it's wrong.
So therefore, let's think, maybe we need term limits both for Capitol Hill staffers and making sure that Capitol Hill staffers can't do the revolving door and then become lobbyists afterwards.
That's to me the bigger one.
Making sure that these people don't just get to go and cycle onto the boards of the companies that they've been overpaying and or not negotiating for.
And doing sweetheart deals for.
Yeah, because it's like, hey, we see that in the military.
No general's going to negotiate with Boeing or Raytheon.
They just buy the missile at whatever they say it's going to be because they know what their off-ramp is.
It's to be on that board.
So that creates a big headache.
A screwed up incentive structure.
But we also have to get rid of this notion that just you get on these ranking committees and these important committees because you've been there longer.
And maybe this is where the term limits come because you have people that actually understand banking in Congress, but they don't get to get on those committees because they haven't sat there for 37 years.
So instead you end up with an inept moron that wouldn't know how a mortgage works making trillion-dollar decisions with no business doing so simply because they've been there longer but have no actual subject matter expertise.
And that, to me, is one of the most scary things.
Probably far more scary than just them being there for a long time.
Excellent.
Next question.
Charlie, we have a 10-year-old member here.
My mom said if I asked her, she would give me $100.
So...
Speak money.
I want a piece of this action.
Will you do the Trump dance with me?
I may have lathorism in DJT, so it's...
That's right.
She gets $100 for that.
How great is that?
If anyone else wants to give her $100, feel free as well.
Hi, Don.
I hope I'm not doing the wrong thing, but I'm a music artist in Los Angeles.
I've created what I consider is a music video that glorifies your father like nothing.
I've been in music all my life and produced it.
It's at trumpsongs.com.
And I've been trying to get to your father with Ariel Banner.
So the question is, should we visit the website?
Please.
Please.
Trumpsongs.com.
Thank you very much.
Check it out.
Thank you, man.
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Hi, I'm an international student-athlete from Ontario, Canada.
And...
The great state of Canada?
You've got a bad governor there.
I mean, I came to America just, one, to play my sport golf, two, to study, and three, just to be able to get a job into America.
And I was wondering, because of what everything's going on right now and, like, a lot of the immigration borders, what's to come with visas?
Are they going to change?
Just because it's very difficult for me to secure a visa right now.
I think we're actually very pro-immigration, but we want to be a meritocracy.
We want it to be based on merit.
We want people to bring value.
If you look at people from around the world that want to come into America, there's hundreds of thousands of people that are competent, that would bring value.
Add value.
But they're not going to be reliable Democrat voters because of that, right?
So there's a reason why even under this administration, if you're an immigrant coming from Cuba or Venezuela and you end up on the shores of Florida, you don't get the same treatment as if you're coming across the southern border because what you're escaping is what the Democrats are trying to bring here.
And so we're definitely pro-immigration.
And again, someone who adds value and isn't just going to be a drain on society.
It's something we definitely want.
We want to encourage that.
We want growth.
Frankly, growth is the only thing that's going to get us out of the debt hellhole that we've been living in, $35 trillion.
And so I think that's something that we're definitely looking at and making sure we're going to change.
We want Elon Musk's, not Elon Omar's.
Remember that.
Elon Musk's, not Elon Omar's.
I like that.
You can take it.
It's a Charlie Kirk original.
I may be stealing that.
Thank you.
Hi, guys.
I just wanted to say thank you for everything that you do.
This was my first election voting.
Alright.
So...
And I listen to you every day, Charlie, so thank you for all that you do.
My question is, will President-elect Donald Trump finally ban Congress and the Senate from insider trading as no one is above the law?
I'll start.
This is a problem is that it would require Congress to pass it upon themselves.
It's why they don't have to participate in Obamacare either, right?
Exactly.
So what I think we need to do, and this is why I love Doge, is that the more awareness, the better.
So I think that the window on insider congressional stock trading is closing, partially because online you can track the stock deals of what these guys are doing.
Nancy Pelosi's stock portfolio is up.
She makes Warren Buffett look like a baby investor.
It's unbelievable.
It's like a moron compared to Nancy Pelosi.
It's almost shocking.
It's hard to believe.
Honestly, we need to get to a place where the law is, if you're a member of Congress, you should live under the same ethics laws that White House staffers live under.
And the White House staffer laws is you must put all of your stuff in a blind trust.
You know this, Don.
So why is it that members of Congress who have the constitutionally allowed power of the purse...
Can actively trade stocks, but somebody who works in the White House, even as a low-level White House staffer, can't trade stocks.
So if you are a government employee in Congress or the White House, live under the same standard.
It's such an easy fix.
Just say what the White House staffers do, members of Congress do.
Blind trust, you cannot actively trade.
Stocks that you yourself are doing business for.
These guys are on these committees doing deals for electric vehicles and then getting out of those meetings, calling their stockbroker and say, go buy 3,000 shares of Tesla.
I mean, it is corrupt.
It's wrong.
And so it's something I think the president hopefully will shine a light on.
Or family members.
No, that's exactly right.
Well, I mean, yeah, Pelosi's husband does the same thing.
So it is a deeper structural problem.
And again, when you talk to these members of Congress, they always evade and dodge this question.
And by the way, how repulsive.
Yesterday, they were trying to give themselves a 74% pay increase to $247,000 a year.
How about this?
I'm all for it if they balance the budget.
I sort of feel like you get paid to actually do your job.
You've got to earn a raise.
I have no problem incentivizing someone to actually get something done, but they're definitely not going to do that, so I'm not too worried about it.
Alright, one or two more.
Yep, Daisy.
Hi, I'm from the great purple state of Iowa.
So, to form all my grievances into a single question, do I even have to ask it?
How in the heck, and I just got a call on my way over here tonight, how in the heck Do we organize, because we are a purple state, to get rid of, we call her Joanie Wonder Bread Ernst, because she wears Wonder Bread bags on her feet.
That's the story she tells.
And we got President Trump through in spite of our political class.
You mean Ann Seltzer wasn't right about Iowa?
Yeah.
You know, when we got the call that Saturday night, people were freaking out.
And all of us who knew, we just laughed about it.
And I have to say, I was really disappointed for the first time in my life that I wasn't a subscriber to the Des Moines Register.
Because I was asked to be a plaintiff, but I had to subscribe to the paper.
Just so you guys know, the President is suing the Des Moines Register for that poll.
And for good reason.
John, do you want to comment on that, on Iowa?
Listen, it's just another example of sort of what the media did.
There was a reason, what was it, Governor Pritzker basically was talking about the poll in some meetings.
Before it even came out, which is a huge ethical violation as a pollster.
So this was a poll that was designed to dissuade people from getting out.
It was designed to demoralize.
And I've said this in my stump speeches.
I ignore most of the polling these days because it feels like half of it is designed to demoralize you so you stay at home.
The other half is designed to make you overconfident so you stay at home.
That's what this was.
I mean, I saw it.
I'm like, we're going to lose Iowa by three.
Well, if we lose Iowa, we're not going to win a single other swing stadium.
We'd lose Arizona by 10. We'd lose Arizona by 10. We'd have lost North Carolina by four.
So it was so ludicrous.
But if you weren't in the know and you didn't understand it, like Charlie and I were doing this every day, there are people that were like, oh my God, we're in serious trouble.
I was even second-guessing, because I mean, remember, she had a really good track record up until that time of being accurate and honest.
And they were more than happy to flaunt that when the poll came out, right?
It was the media that then took it, this was the most accurate pollster in whatever, you know, for whatever it was.
So, you know, they were trying to do whatever they could to get Kamala Harris those extra...
I mean, it should be illegal.
To be that glaringly, flagrantly off, to be talking about it with other far-left-leaning governors beforehand, that's clear that this was a setup and designed and intended for one purpose and one purpose alone, and it was not to educate the public.
Yeah, and I would just comment.
You have a great...
I don't know if you like her or not.
Your attorney general, I think, is better than Joni Ernst.
Yes?
No?
Yes?
Yeah, okay, good.
She should primary Joni Ernst.
That is the answer to the question.
Final question here.
Yeah.
Hi.
I was just wondering if you could go back in time to when you were around 25, what advice would you give yourself?
You first.
Speaking from a 25-year-old.
Don't get involved.
Yeah, stay out of politics.
Yeah.
No, actually, the opposite.
Probably get more involved in politics.
It was sort of interesting for me.
I was always political, but I also grew up in New York City.
I was building buildings in liberal cities, Chicago, New York, all over the place.
So while I was a lifelong conservative, my first political fundraiser ever was for Andrew Cuomo.
And the reason being, he was the Attorney General of the State of New York.
If you're building a building, you get an offering plan.
It's a book about this thing.
You can't sell it without the Attorney General signing off, so you play that game.
But for me, being able to do this, it was actually very freeing.
Once I got out of New York, and it wasn't just that...
It actually opened so many doors for me.
It was incredibly cathartic, frankly, once we did get into politics, even in New York, because the sort of fake friends that sort of knew who I was for 10, 15 years prior to that, college, high school, whatever, that turned on you so quickly just because I became vocal, even if they understood what I was.
Sweeping them off the table, not having to do that sort of annual obligatory lunch that you're like, I gotta do it because it's a friend from college.
It just gave me a clean slate, and I'm just so happy for it now.
And when I look at the opportunity for our country as a guy that has five young kids, nothing could be more important.
So get involved, stay involved, be unafraid, and fight.
I love it.
Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
Email us, as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.
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