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"Help Us Find These Children" — Exclusive Interview with New Border Czar Tom Homan

Trump's new Border Czar Tom Homan sat down for a live interview with Charlie Kirk Exclusive Members to discuss the single most important issue facing the Trump administration on January 20: The calamitous state of America’s borders. Homan fields subscriber questions about the 300,000 kids who have gone missing under the Biden regime, how he plans to confront left-wing sanctuary cities, and more.Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Tom, welcome to Phoenix.
Hey, Phoenix.
You got some fans here.
I used to be a special agent in Phoenix.
Is that right?
And it's about to get a hell of a lot better in Phoenix.
Let's start there, Tom.
Just in this, right down the street neighborhood, suburban areas are being broken into by illegal migrant gangs, Venezuelan gangs that have deportation notices on them.
The governor refuses to do anything.
January 20th, Donald Trump says, so help me God.
What changes?
We secure the border.
We started the biggest deportation operation this country's ever seen.
And we're going to find over 300,000 missing children in this administration trafficking in the country.
So, operationally, I'm infinitely curious, but let's just start with the obvious.
So much of this doesn't take a lot of thoughtful work.
It requires the will.
The will to do it.
Is that correct?
Absolutely.
And I got 20,000 agents who have the will and the guts.
We're going to do it starting January 21st.
And look, you know, I've worked for six presidents starting with Ronald Reagan.
January 20th, the baddest president in history of this nation is going to be back in the White House.
And he told me three things.
Secure the border, which I'll do.
Run the biggest deportation office and find these kids.
I'm committed to President Trump.
We're going to get this done.
We're going to show this country what it's like to be great again and what it's like to be safe again.
What it's like to have a sovereign nation and secure that border.
I can't wait.
So let's talk operationally.
You are the czar, which I don't love that term, but meaning you're going to be coordinating what agencies are involved.
I mean, it is everything from ICE to Border Patrol to Department of Homeland Security to even the Homeland Security Investigations, HSI. Kind of paint the picture of the personnel that you're going to have to coordinate to be able to first secure the border and then get this deportation effort underway.
Well, one thing we're doing different, why we created the borders are, which is the official title is Senior Advisor to the President.
But a lot of people touch the border.
DHS touches the border, you know, CVP ICE, CIS. DOJ touches the border, right, with the immigration judges and the Bureau.
HHS touches the border with children, because they take care of the children and families.
Department of Interior, all these different agencies touched the board.
What we did differently, rather than having seven stovepipes to the president concerning the border, now there's one stovepipe, me.
So we're going to have a very efficient, coordinated operation.
So all the departments are working together to succeed in securing the border in record time, finishing the job we created.
So I'll be working very closely with Kristi Noem.
She's going to be your great secretary.
I talk to her all the time.
And let me tell you something about it, because I know some of the people in media say, ah, she's not qualified.
Let me tell you something.
The first time I sat down with Christy, she asked great questions.
Questions that you would have to have a lot of experience to even know what to ask.
So I was pleasantly surprised.
She's in it for the long game.
She's going to be a great secretary.
Of course, with DOJ touching the board, we can't get a better guy than Cash Patel, who's coming in.
Borbetro, ICE, both Homeland Security investigation had about 8,000 agents.
ERO has about another 6,000 agents.
We're going to bring, I'm pushing hard to bring DOD, Department of Defense as part of this.
What the Department of Defense can do, we got a lot of guns and badges processing, doing infrastructure, transportation.
We want DOD to come in and do all those non-enforcement jobs, and that releases a hell of a lot more guns and badges to the street, the rest of the bad guy, because day one, day one, we're going out of the gate, going to prioritize public safety threats and national security threats, and there's plenty of them to find.
So, Tom, day one, President Trump does the inauguration ceremony.
He says, so help me God.
He walks into the outer room of the Capitol building, and he has a bunch of basically things to sign for him.
What executive orders are you going to be advising and pushing for him to sign day one, minute one of January 20th?
We're going to uncuff ICE and let them do the job they're supposed to do rather than sit.
Right now, the current secretary, Alejandro Mayorkas, who should have been impeached to remove the first day he got the job, He has instructed ICE, if you're in the country legally, without a serious criminal conviction, ICE can't even arrest them.
He's telling immigration officers not enforce immigration law.
We're going to cut these guys loose day one.
We're going to change the priorities of ICE priorities, and the priorities are going to say this, public safety threats, national security threats go to the biggest danger, but no one's off the table.
If you're in the country legally, you've got a problem, and we're going to look them for.
You know, we got Remain in Mexico needs to come back.
The Third State of Country is going to come back.
And I'm sure the president's going to sign, I'm hoping, a Title V to allow DOD to help us on the border and interior.
Other agencies, Looking for help from U.S. Marshals and the FBI. This needs to be a whole of government approach because what we're dealing with right now is the biggest national security vulnerability I've seen in this nation in my lifetime.
We got 2.2 million gotaways.
We were already arrested over 300 people on the terrorist watch list coming across the southwest border.
If you don't think a single one of the 2.2 gotaways didn't come here to do us harm, then you're a moron.
So, you know, we got to take this seriously and I cannot wait.
I haven't waited.
I can't wait to be official, but I haven't waited.
Look, I've already went to Texas and working with Governor Abbott and finishing the great job he's been doing.
I've been to Arizona, meet with the National Sheriff's Association.
We got hundreds of sheriffs standing up ready to go and be 287G programs and help us in the jails and help us on the street.
I met with the mayor of New York City.
He's come to the table.
Now, for two years I said, this man...
For God's sake being a cop and became a politician because he hasn't helped ICE in New York City, but I sat down with him.
He said he will get us in Rikers Island jail again, which is huge.
Massive.
And he's going to let his officers assist me in finding these public safety threats and making New York City safer again.
And he's going to help me find some of these children that are, of course, going to be in sex trade and forced labor in New York City.
He's committed to that.
So his words are good.
I just hope the actions follow it up.
Yeah, he might want a pardon, but that's a separate issue.
So thank you, Biden DOJ. Whatever it takes.
Right.
So there's so many questions that I have on this.
So you will inevitably, within a couple hours, get some lawsuit from ACLU in the northern Mariana Islands saying you can't do this.
Has a lot of this work already been worked to the courts in previous years with the Supreme Court so that these ridiculous legal challenges can't stop the will of the voters?
Yeah, we got good judgments from the last administration.
Of course, they're going to sue again.
But I don't care.
They're not going to stop us.
We're going to do this job.
But we're going to get sued from day one.
And day one, I hope we'll be in Chicago, Illinois, to show the mayor of Chicago that we're coming.
I told them I'm going to come.
We're going to come.
So hopefully I'll be with the team in Chicago.
We'll do Arizona next.
I also think Aurora, Colorado should be...
I know that's on your list, but...
No, no.
Trent Agua is a priority.
A shout-out to them if they're watching.
My gang's bigger than your gang.
So we're going to take you out the streets of New York and send you back to Venezuela.
If Venezuela don't want them, we'll send them someplace up, but they're not staying here.
I love it.
We are back, everybody.
We are back.
All right.
Aurora, Colorado is one of many cities that are being held captive by foreign invaders.
And I would just love the visual of Tom Homan with kind of a field operation, a setup of a war room.
One week you could clean that entire city up.
That does beg a bigger and deeper question.
The mayor of Aurora and the governor of Colorado have said, Tom Homan, you're not welcome here.
ICE, you're not welcome here.
Watch me.
Watch me.
Look.
Our authority is in all 50 states, you know, Cunha, you know, Islands of Samoa, Puerto Rico, Guam.
I think Colorado Falls is in there someplace.
So we're coming.
You know, they can not help.
Shame on them.
Because we made it clear we're concentrating on public safety threats.
And I can't believe there's an elected mayor or elected governor in this country who doesn't want public safety threats removed from their communities.
That's their number one responsibility.
If they don't do it, we will.
But President Trump has promised to deal with an illegal alien crime in this country, and that's exactly what we're going to do.
Give us a few months.
You're going to see illegal alien crime decrease.
You're going to see fentanyl deaths decrease.
You're going to see sex trafficking decrease because we want to secure the border and enforce the laws.
We're going to enforce the laws.
That's something this administration hasn't done.
It's amazing.
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So, let's just take an example.
You mentioned Illinois, my home state.
Anyone from Illinois here?
Yeah, well, Arizona's my new home.
I'm formerly from Illinois.
J.B. Pritzker, not exactly, yeah, not exactly.
J.B. Pritzker says, well, I'm happy to make them arrest me.
Would you do such a thing?
Well, that's one thing we have in common.
He's willing to go to jail.
I'm willing to put him in jail if that's what it's going to take.
And look, he came out saying, told me you don't have the authorities.
The borders are here.
Look, I'm not going to be prosecuting him.
The U.S. attorneys are going to be prosecuting him if he crosses that line.
Yes.
Bottom line is, there's a statue, and you all should read it.
It's Title 8, United States Code 1324, Triple I. It says, if you knowingly harbor and conceal an illegal alien from ICE, It's a felony.
So he can not help, but don't cross that line because don't test this.
You know, another good thing?
We got one hell of attorney general coming on board, Pam Bondi.
So, Tom, that law that you just recited is definitionally what a sanctuary city is.
Yeah.
So is it fair to say that every mayor in this country is currently violating federal law that has a sanctuary city?
I'm hoping that one of the first things Pam Bondi does is DOJ needs to take this.
I'm not an attorney.
I'm not a prosecutor, but I can read.
I know what it says.
So DOJ needs to make a decision and hold sanctuary cities accountable.
Sanctuaries are sanctuaries for criminals.
Bottom line.
Yep.
And let me explain.
Because they like to say, well, we need sanctuary cities because it protects victims and witnesses of crime so they can feel comfortable coming to law enforcement.
No, we're not working with ICE. That is a bunch of crap, right?
Because what we want in the sanctuary city, we want access to your jail.
Well, you already locked the guy in a jail cell.
That's the guy we want.
We don't even talk to the victim and witness.
And use some common sense.
Do you think the victim and witness of a crime wants a bad guy back in the community, for God's sakes?
No!
And look, most immigrant communities, even if they're illegal aliens, they committed a crime crossing this border, and that's an issue.
They hear it illegally, and that's an issue.
But most of them are family people, God-fearing people, a lot of them.
They don't want to predator in their neighborhood either.
They don't want to child molester in their neighborhood either.
So if any of these politicians go to the immigrant community and ask them a simple question, where would you rather see ICE operate, the county jail or your community?
They're going to say the county jail.
They don't want the bad guy out either.
And sanctuary cities, they protect the criminal.
And you wonder why Chicago has a crime rate and New York has a crime rate?
Because criminals will flock to a sanctuary city because they can commit a crime and no one's going to call ICE because they're a sanctuary city.
And what really upsets me and the reason I'm so passionate about this is because the men and women are ICE. Put themselves in harm's way every day.
It's safer to get a bad guy in the safety and security of a county jail rather than going to the community and knocking on the door.
He has access to who knows what weapons.
Sanctuary cities are dangerous for the immigrant community.
They're dangerous for law enforcement officers.
They're dangerous for the alien.
It's much safer for the alien to be arrested in county jail rather than something could happen on the street.
It's a ridiculous concept, and we've got to put an end to it, and President Trump's committed to put an end to it.
So, this last week...
One of the more chilling pieces of television happened on MSNBC, which obviously we don't watch, but we saw a clip.
It was Rachel Maddow, I don't know if you saw this, interviewing Anthony Romero, who is the head of the American Civil Liberties Union.
Anthony Romero was saying that they're leading the charge to have cities not allow the federal government access the jails, To say that, oh, Tom Homan, you want to deport someone with a DUI? We're going to expunge their record so they no longer have a DUI and give them blanket amnesty.
The ACLU, this is what they said.
Tom, did you see this clip?
No, but you're pissing me off.
No, no, no.
Blake, I'm being correct on this, right?
This ACLU Rachel Maddow clip?
Am I fairly summarizing this?
Alright.
Yeah, if I'm being off at all, he was going on for a minute and a half of how he at the ACLU are going to prevent you from doing your job in the next couple of weeks.
You haven't had a chance to see it and to read it, but what is your reaction to the ACLU basically saying, we need to protect these criminals by not making them criminals any longer and preempting the work of federal agencies?
I'll see them in court.
But bottom line is, you know, HCU, they're a group of attorneys who took an oath to enforce law and abide by the laws of this country.
I'm enforcing the law.
And it's shocking to me that anybody, the world's upside down.
You know, my grandfather was a cop, my dad was a cop, I knew I was always going to be a cop.
Back in a world where cops are respected, now all of a sudden with the HCU and other groups, All of a sudden, the people who enforce the laws are bad guys, the ones who broke the laws are victims?
No, we're going to fix that.
We're going to change that around in the Trump administration.
But look, they're not going to stop us from doing the job.
As far as...
Look, Rachel Maldon, that whole bunch...
You know, the view said I was going to deport you as citizen children.
That's, you know, that's the island of Misfit Toys right there.
It's Christmas time.
But look, we're going to do the job.
Look, I'm not running a popularity contest.
I don't, you know, I have masks all the time.
Does it bother you to have half the country hate you?
Not a bit.
I don't care.
We're going to do the job.
So a message to the ACLU guy, okay, do what you got to do.
But don't you cross that line either.
But the Trump administration, look, President Trump is one hell of a president.
And he will take this on.
He will take it on right at the point of the spirit.
So we're going to take it on.
So stand in our way if you want.
Don't cross the line.
Don't help us if you want.
but we will get this done guaranteed.
It's going to take the will of all of us, and this is where we come in, everybody, is that, and by the way, yeah, so just to be clear, Blake looked up the quote.
The ACLU chair said that the cities need to sever relationships with the federal government.
He said, quote, sever relationships.
Then we'll take federal funds away from them.
If they want a separate relationship, we'll start there.
Yes, exactly.
And by the way, this will last two hours when all of a sudden Medicare, Social Security, and food stat benefits all of a sudden stop flowing into San Francisco.
And he also said, quote, he wants to declare jails off limits to federal agents.
It's unbelievable.
Think about that.
And you haven't even taken office yet.
But everybody, understand this.
They are terrified of this man because President Trump, Tom Holm, and the whole team are going to end the invasion, the occupation of the United States once and for all.
That's why they are talking like this.
So, but of course, and can you speak to this, Tom?
There will be a massive psychological media operation run.
And we must be ready for this, everybody.
It'll be kids in cages with an exponent.
Can you talk about, Tom, about how they lie about this, what we should brace for, and how we need to just keep our head down and do the work and fulfill the mandate the American people gave us?
Well, this, I explained to President Trump, this is coming, right?
The first crying female, the first crying baby.
But, you know, we're going to enforce it.
Immigration enforcement has always been controversial.
It's always been emotional.
I get it.
I get it.
But we're a nation of laws and we're going to enforce those laws.
If you come to this country illegally, that is a crime.
I'm sick and tired of hearing illegal aliens commit less crimes than American citizens.
Every illegal alien is a criminal.
Yes, exactly right.
That's right.
Look, they've already started.
I'll share with you.
I got numerous death threats against me.
I'm not with my family right now.
I had them someplace else.
And it's because what does Tom Holm want to do?
I'm going to come enforce the law.
They're not going to stop us.
So the hate's coming, but we need to control the messaging, right?
So I've been...
I told President Trump that what we need to do, do a weekly press briefing.
Let's show the American people who we arrested, why we arrested them.
Let's show us where we arrested them, what kind of bad guys we arrested in that sanctuary city.
And for an example...
Rachel Morin or Lakin Riley.
Lakin Riley.
Excuse me.
There's so many of them.
By the way, Rachel Morin's mother is speaking tomorrow at AmFest.
God bless her.
Mother of five that was murdered brutally in Maryland by an illegal alien.
Lakin Riley's family will not be here, but also has spoken out in support of President Trump.
Lakin Riley was the young lady at Athens, Georgia, University of Georgia.
We're going to educate American people, such as Lake and Riley, her killer was arrested in New York City, but because of Sanctuary City, wasn't handled over the ice, and he went to Georgia and did a terrible thing to this young lady and took her life.
So weekly briefings, we're going to tell American people exactly who we're arresting, How bad they were, and where we arrested them, and where the sanctuary cities put these people back on the street.
We're going to be very transparent, and we're going to be, and we're going to, we need to control the messaging, right?
Under the first Trump administration, during zero tolerance, the left took the messaging, they ran with it, and we didn't respond quick enough.
And they're still, right, to this very day, as of yesterday, I read a story about Tom Holm and the grandfather of family separation.
Let me explain this real quick in case you don't know.
Why did zero tolerance come about?
Because children die in that border every day.
Women and children are sexually assaulted in that border every day.
People were dying daily.
So we said, maybe we start prosecuting them, fewer would come.
And it worked.
The crossings went down.
So, it wasn't an attempt to be inhumane.
It wasn't an attempt to be cruel.
It was an attempt to save some lives, for God's sakes, right?
But they won't talk about the over 300,000 separations that this administration has done and they can't find them.
They won't talk about it.
They won't talk about the thousands of young children that American parents buried because their children were killed by someone that's not supposed to be here.
They won't talk about that separation.
It was a permanent separation.
So, in this administration, I'm going to make a...
Real hard effort to be very transparent in what we're doing and every week telling people exactly what we're doing because we can't lose the faith in American people.
We're not going to let you lose faith in us.
We're going to do the right thing.
This operation will be controversial.
It'll be emotional, but it will be humane.
We will do a humane operation because that's the way it should be.
We're enforcing the law in a humane reason, in a humane way.
I guarantee you that.
We'll be humane.
We'll enforce the law, but we're going to enforce the law without apology.
And finally, for those in the media that says, Homan's going to deport U.S. citizen children.
Let me be clear on this.
We can't deport U.S. citizen children.
That's going to be up to the parent.
Now, if you enter this country illegally, knowing you're here illegally and had a child, that's on you.
That's exactly right.
You put yourself in that position.
So when you get deported, you can leave the child here.
You can take them with you.
But you don't get a stay.
You don't get amnesty.
You don't get your removal order quashed because you had a U.S. citizen child.
Because that's the message we send to the whole world.
You're never going to fix the border.
More women will be raped.
More children will die.
We're going to put a stop to the violence.
We're going to put a stop to the deaths on the border.
We're going to put a stop to the migrant deaths in the United States.
We're going to end this.
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Tom, you mentioned something that is critical, which, and I don't want to speculate, but let's go into this for a second.
The threats against the homeland of people that are gotaways, that might have dirty bombs, chemical weapons, might be scouting out critical infrastructure.
What do we know of the people?
What do we know that have come across the border?
What countries represented, what motives, aims, ambitions, and were any on the terror watch list?
Yes, on a terrorist watch list have actually been released in the United States.
Released into the United States?
Let me explain that real quick.
So we find out they're a terrorist and then we just...
Well, no, it's different.
So I've got a couple of whistleblowers that call me and I turn them over to Jim Jordan to become whistleblowers.
But I've heard from Border Patrol Agency that says, this administration, the number one instruction to Border Patrol Agency is process quick, release quick.
Because there's no overcrowding, nothing to see here, we've got a secure border.
Okay.
So, the Border Patrol has been under such pressure from this administration to process and release quickly, sometimes they're released before the vetting gets back.
And at least two occasions, the vetting came back after they released and it turned out being hot.
Now, luckily, ICE was able to find one of them.
But the other one, we don't know.
But what concerns me more is the 2.2 million guy that was in it.
Here's why it needs to concern you.
I already said, border patrols arrest the people from 180 different countries.
Some of these countries sponsor terror.
We know that we got over 300 people on terror swaths since we're encountered on the border, so obviously there are morons because terrorists are trained out of made law enforcement.
They didn't do a very good job.
But with 2.2 million gotaways, How many of them came from a country sponsoring terror?
We don't know.
But even Christopher Wray, who I have zero respect in, even he agrees the Southwest border is a gateway to terrorism.
And let me end with this.
After 9-11, we created all these different databases.
Let's prevent people from getting a plane ticket.
Let's prevent people from getting a visa to come here and blow something up.
And so we created the TSA No Fly, the FBI Screening Database, the DOD Intel Database, the The visa security program, where if you want a visa coming to the United States, you're vetted heavily.
If there's any derogatory information, you're not getting a visa.
And we rented thousands of people from getting a visa.
But those systems, even though they've been very successful the last two decades, what terrorist today is going to ask for a visa or a plaintiff, known as a vetting procedure, when you simply go to Mexico, pay the cartels a little bit of extra money, and be a gotaway.
Because here's what you need to ask yourself.
You pay two amounts of money to the cartels.
You pay one amount to get to the border.
Their job ends at the border.
You see a green uniform, turn you in, cartel's job's done, right?
So you pay a certain amount of money.
But if you want to be a gotaway, you pay a hell of a lot more money if you want to get to Chicago and New York.
Why did 2.2 million people pay more not to get a free airline ticket to the city of their choice, not to get a free hotel room, not to get three meals a day, not to get free medical care, not to get work authorization within 90 days?
Why did 2.2 pay more not to take advantage of the giveaway program?
Because they didn't want to be vetted.
They didn't want to be fingerprinted.
That just scared the hell out of everybody here because it scares the hell out of me.
Tom, that's a really important operational question, and we have to get to questions, is now what happens on January 21st?
Cartel shows up, 10 people, and they see green uniforms.
What happens now?
They don't get released.
They'll be detained.
And hopefully we get the Remain in Mexico program.
What is that?
Explain Remain in Mexico really quick.
Remain in Mexico.
If you want to claim a sign, okay, you can claim a sign, but you can wait in Mexico for your hearing.
Because here's what you need to know.
I'm glad you asked this question.
You look at immigration court data over the last 10 years.
It says this.
For those who claim asylum at the border, nearly 9 out of 10 people who claim asylum will get a removal order because they simply don't qualify for asylum.
They're not escaping fear and persecution from their home government because of race, religion, political affiliation, or participation in a specific social group.
They're coming here for a job.
They're coming for a better life.
I get that, but that's not asylum.
And while all this asylum fraud is occurring, we got a lot of people in this world that really do need asylum, that really are escaping fear, and they're sitting in the back seat.
So, 9 out of 10 people get order removal.
And that's why...
I've been shouting at it as loud as I could.
People say, this mass deportation is racist, inhumane.
No, it's not.
Millions of people crossed this border, made a fraudulent asylum claim.
Nine out of ten would get an order of removal.
If we don't execute those removal orders, then what the hell are we doing?
Shut down immigration court.
Don't mean anything more.
Take the border patrol off the border because there's no consequence.
We have to have a mass deportation at the end of a historic, massive illegal immigration.
And I will cap this off.
Everybody, this is not going to be easy, but it is the only way you get your country back.
And this is where us, as the grassroots and the vanguard, need to keep driving this forward on social media, need to drive into conversation.
Every day on the Charlie Kirk Show, we are going to be driving this and saying, guys, you're getting your country back, but it's going to have to pierce through the media.
You have to pierce through the noise.
Because this is 40 years that we are trying to undo of open borders.
And in four years, how many...
Two quick questions.
How many illegals are in the nation right now?
They claim 12. We've been talking about 12 for two decades.
I mean, I'm sure there's well over 20. We don't know.
That's insane.
The strongest nation in the world doesn't know how many illegals are in the nation.
I mean, this is the expert on immigration on the planet.
And we don't know.
We don't know how many people we have in our own nation.
Number two, how many illegals came across the border under Joe Biden?
10.5 that we know about.
10.5 million.
And let me explain.
What we know about, because God of Ways, when we say known God of Ways, because you're captured on video, drone traffic, sensor traffic, there's an image or a footprint or something, where Border Patrol couldn't respond because they were too busy changing diapers, making baby formula, taking care of the humanitarian crisis.
So...
We count these gotaways.
However, the unknown gotaways, we have no idea.
Like one sector in Texas, the Big Bend sector, very mountainous region.
You could run a thousand people there today and we wouldn't know it because it's hard to patrol.
We don't have the technology there because Joe Biden stopped building the technology day one.
So there's a lot of areas we don't know.
Northern border, very few border stations on the northern border.
I live on the northern border.
You can cross the St. Lawrence River in a thousand islands in a minute and a half.
Very few border patrol agents up there.
And under Biden administration, half of those few were assigned to the southern border.
The other half were sitting in the offices processing illegal aliens virtually from the southern border.
So the northern border had very little patrol.
Lake patrol, river patrol, road patrol.
So we know what the hell's happened on the northern border.
It's scary.
It's scary what this administration has done.
It's almost treasonous what they've done.
It is treasonous.
I really believe it.
I know you have to be more...
Diplomatic, because you're going to be a White House staffer.
Ain't nothing diplomatic about me.
Yeah, and you're working for President Trump.
I think you're fine.
So, I want to get to the question.
We're going to be low on time here.
Daisy, what's our first question?
Guys, please keep this...
I need one thing, though.
I need to ask you all a favor.
Because what we're going to do when we get an administration, I need to deputize every American here to help us find these children.
Because you parents...
We're both, you parents knowing something just ain't right.
Whether you see a child at a workplace, whether you see a child in an uncomfortable position, your instincts are going to kick in.
So we're going to create a 1-800 number that if you see something, say something, because even if one out of a thousand phone calls turns out to be...
Positive hit.
We're saving our life.
300,000 kids are missing.
Tom Holman is going to rescue and save them.
Okay, let's go fast.
Please keep an immigration focus.
We can do political questions later.
Yes, sir.
All right.
As we get ready to see the next season of Apprentice start January 20th, who do you think is going to get fired first?
Okay, that's not an immigration question.
So yeah, hopefully Mayorkas will get fired.
I know.
Let's do immigration, guys.
You have the best immigration person in the world.
Yep.
I just wanted to ask, what will the process, will the process for illegal immigration change at all?
Will that get improved?
Will it be sped up so they don't have to go through the quagmire that they have to go through now, which encourages more illegal crossing?
Yeah, you know, President Trump, during the first administration, had a great immigration plan.
I saw, I read it, and I was part of it.
And he wanted to base illegal immigration on merit, you know, who can come to this country and help improve this country and serve this country.
But he also left in there mothers, fathers, sons, and daughters, so he did have a family component in there.
It was a great, it was a great bill.
Of course, Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer wanted nothing to do with it.
Same thing about DACA. Everybody asks about DACA. President Trump had a fix to DACA, But because Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer didn't want to give any money for the border wall, that got blown up.
So I'm sure President Trump has...
Look, President Trump, despite what anybody thinks, the man has a heart too.
The man doesn't hang his heart on the cohort when he goes to work.
So I'm sure he will come up with an immigration plan that makes sense.
We just got hope that the people in Congress, even some Republicans who don't do the right thing, We've got to make sure that President Trump's immigration agenda is followed through on both sides.
So we'll be pushing that hard, but I can promise you President Trump will have a great immigration plan that comes in that talks about legal immigration.
President Trump said it many times.
He supports legal immigration.
He wants people to come in the legal way.
That way they're not selling everything they have to get the criminal cartel to be raped or have to swim in a river and drown.
President Trump wants to save lives too, so count on him to come up with a great immigration plan.
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Go to My name is Chris DeSena.
I'm 15 years old from Northern California.
I just wanted to first thank both of you guys for being here.
I actually had an accidental run-in with fentanyl about a month ago.
I just brushed up against a metal fence and I was in the ER for a couple hours.
And it was, I just think of my two little sisters who had to go through that with their older brother in the hospital.
I just wanted to ask you, what are you going to do to stop the drugs from coming in the country that could potentially end someone's life?
Great question.
That's really a thank you, and we're glad you're okay.
And in three years, you can become a Border Patrol agent.
And I mean that because Border Patrol is going to secure the border and we have a secure border unless drugs come in.
I'm sick and tired of Democrats saying most of fentanyl is smuggled by American citizens through port of entries.
That's a bunch of crap.
Most of the fentanyl seized that port of entry because every vehicle stopped.
And depending on the answers from the driver, they may be secondary.
They also have what they call a CBP targeting system I can't tell you what's in it.
It's intelligence data.
You put the license plate number, it may come back and say, this is a car you may want a secondary.
So, of course, they seize most fentanyl at the port of entry.
But if criminal cartels are going to use a route of least resistance, and that's between a port of entry where 70% of the border is no longer on the border because they're changing diapers.
So, while we stop the fentanyl, we secure the border.
Another thing we need to do at the same time, we need to educate the American people on the dangers of fentanyl.
We need to have an educational program pushed off from the White House across the nation.
Third, we got to address the drive for illegal drugs in this country.
There has to be a push to educate the American people and stop.
We are purchasing this stuff, so we got to push that too.
Sealing the border is going to save lives with fentanyl.
It isn't coincidence if we have quarter million young people dead from fentanyl, At the same time, they opened this border up.
So securing that border is going to save a hell of a lot of lives.
Yeah, we're at 110,000 drug overdoses.
About 60,000 of them are now fentanyl.
Just this year alone.
Just this year alone.
Yes, ma'am.
Hi, my name is Rita.
I'm from Highlands Ranch, Colorado, about 30 minutes from Aurora.
Yep.
I'm just wondering, what will the process be for deportation?
Will it start in every city at the same time, or will you go city by city?
It's going to start in every major city on January 21st.
We have 24 field offices and various sub offices.
Every field office, every one of the 24 field offices, I'm already working on a plan for each field office.
Each field office is going to send massive amounts of agents out, again, to arrest public safety threats first.
But here's what you need to know, and here's where the left's going to play.
Holman, you said public safety threats.
Look at all these non-criminals you arrested.
You know why?
Because you didn't let me arrest a bad guy in a jail, so he forced me into the neighborhood, and we found him, but he was with others.
And guess what?
They're illegally in the United States.
We're not turning a blind eye like this administration did.
They're coming to custody too.
So if you want to complain about the collateral arrest, you put me in that position to do that, so you're going to get exactly what you don't want is more agents in the communities and more non-priority arrests because you forced that issue.
And let me make an unrelated note.
Everybody who lives in California, Colorado, all in this audience, do you know what's so awesome about this?
Is that you're not forgotten as part of this, and you're going to get your cities and your states back as well.
Even though this is not a red state or a blue state thing, every state is going to be delivered from this enemy occupation.
Yes, where are we at, Daisy?
My question, Director Holman, is when the current administration came in, the ICE officer union got dissolved and we're trying to bring it back.
Would you throw your support in bringing it back?
I already met with some of the representatives like Chris Delbaugh.
I think it was one of them.
Yeah, I've already met with them.
Look, their concern is getting protection because they're going to be sued right and left, right and left.
So we got to do something to protect them.
So yeah, it's certainly a certain important discussion.
I haven't talked to the president about it, but I met with them.
I support what they're trying to do because this is about protecting ICE agents and not just from harm because they're going to put themselves in harm's way and violence is going to come because they're arresting really bad people, but they're going to be sued.
So we got to come up with some sort of way to protect them and the union's one way to do that.
I agree.
Where are we at, Daisy?
In the back?
Yep.
Thank you.
Hello, sir.
I'm HSI out of San Diego.
Oh, wow.
You work for HSI? I do, yes.
God bless you.
Give it up for her.
That's a tough job.
That's Homeland Security Investigations.
Those are tough, tough, tough people.
I appreciate that.
Real quick, I do have a question, but I figured I had to shoot my shot.
I know you just hired a chief of staff, and it would be the honor of my lifetime to come work for you and your team.
But my question is, what do you do with these AUSAs when they refuse to prosecute the 1324, 25, 26 cases that we're going to bring?
Because, you know, right now, for the past seven years that I've worked, They just tell us straight up, don't even file the case, we're not going to take it.
Well, that's going to change.
Can you interpret that?
Yeah, I know exactly what you mean.
Tell the audience what she was asking.
All right, so immigration is not as sexy as a big narcotics case or a big bank fraud case or intellectual property case and all this stuff.
So a lot of U.S. attorneys say, ah, it's just an immigration case.
Deport the guy.
We'll be done with it.
And the guy never sees a day in jail.
It was the same way when I was an agent back in the 80s.
But we got a new president coming in town.
And that's what's so important, everybody.
When you take over the White House, as Biden did, they just can choose what laws to enforce.
There's so much subjectivity for enforcement.
So like, oh, this is not a big deal.
Just kind of let them waltz across the border.
And you have the entire system fall apart.
Okay, we have time for one or two more.
That was a great question.
Daisy, yes.
And if you're serious about working with me, grab ahold of me after this thing.
There you go.
Daisy here.
It's hard to see up here.
Am I? Yeah.
Thank you.
My name is Jeremy.
I'm here from the Phoenix area.
And I'm a veteran.
My son is a police officer here in the Chandler area.
And I appreciate that you're going to be the tourniquet to stop the bleeding of all of the problems, especially here in Arizona.
We have a ton of them.
And my question is, in the veteran community, there's a ton of chatter and intel starting back about a year ago related to the potential Israeli-style attacks that happened in Gaza.
How are you guys gonna plan on working with the local police departments?
Because they're not talking about it locally right now.
And my concern is there's gonna be significant violence that's not prepared for related to what happened in Israel.
There's a plan in place to have White House...
I forget what the position it's called.
It's going to be a state and local liaison of the White House to deal strictly with local and state law enforcement agencies to feed concerns straight to President Trump at the White House.
I'll be involved in that.
It's going to be part of my portfolio.
So we're going to have a connection right straight from the White House to local communities.
But we're going to...
Look, I think...
Mayor Adams, I think, is the domino effect.
Let me tell you something.
The men and women wearing that badge and gun, they want to help ICE. It's the leadership that don't want to help ICE. And as we take on the sanctuary cities and President Trump's committed to defunding them, once they start taking the money away, as Charlie says, they're going to come to the table and hope for better.
And look...
Law enforcement, if their chiefs don't allow them to officially call ICE, we'll give them a 1-800 number two.
You just call us, tell us where to be, and we'll be there.
And your boss ain't got no thing.
But we want to let the law enforcement officers do what they do best.
I have not met one single badge and gun in the four years I've been retired that doesn't want to help ICE. They don't want to be immigration officers.
They want to be police officers that work with federal agents to protect their communities.
So I think you're going to see a vast improvement in that.
But there will be a liaison dealing strictly with that issue right from the White House.
I will say this in closing.
Tom, we worked as hard as we worked at Turning Point Action to get you to be able to do your job to save this country from this occupation.
So thank you, Tom.
Let me say this.
Me and Charlie were talking, and he said, I'm glad you're back.
He says, I wouldn't have been back if you didn't help President Trump win the election, so thank you for giving me a job.
You're welcome, Tom.
God bless you, Tom Holman.
Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
Email us, as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.
Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.
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